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From YouTube: A Vulnerable Tale About Burnout - Julia Simon, CloudOps
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A Vulnerable Tale About Burnout - Julia Simon, CloudOps
This vulnerable tale is a personal journey through the unpredictable world of depression and burnout. It could have been easily predicted because Julia was "doing it all". Yet it was totally unexpected because she assumed her mental health was strong and stable; she could handle anything. Until she couldn’t and everything became unbearable. She made the impossible and necessary decision to stop working in order to recover, setting out on what became four months of self-discovery. Julia will talk about what what led her to this state, what it looked like, and how she was able to get the necessary help to feel strong enough to not only go back to work, but to shift career paths all together as a hopeful and positive outcome that arose out of dark times. Julia will talk about key takeaways that allow her to maintain a healthier balance at work and in life.
A
A
So
a
couple
of
reminders
keep
your
questions
at
the
end
of
the
session
and
you
can
also
submit
your
questions.
Live
on
meeting
play
app
I'll
come
over
and
give
you
the
mic.
If
you
have
in-person
questions
and
don't
forget
to
submit
your
feedback
at
the
end
of
the
session.
With
that,
I
pass
it
on
to
julia.
B
Awesome,
thank
you
and
hello.
Everybody.
I'm
really
really
really
happy
to
be
here.
I
think
we
all
are
that's.
Why
we're
here
to
be
doing
this
in
person
and
also
to
have
an
opportunity
for
the
folks
at
home
to
be
part
of
the
experience
as
well.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
presence
and
attention
to
to
this
talk
and
topic.
I'm
actually
just
gonna
get
the
timer
started
all
right
yeah.
B
So
I'm
happy
to
be
here,
and
I
just
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
cncf
and
to
kubecon
and
cloudnativecon
for
having
this
talk,
I'm
here,
because
I
think
we
actually
don't
talk
about
these
topics
enough
and
especially
after
this
wild
year
that
we've
had
of
pandemic.
I
think
everyone.
This
is
now
a
topic
that
I
think
is
a
little
more
trendy
and
it's
something
that
everyone
can
relate
to
a
little
bit
more
in
their
lives.
B
So
it's
nice
to
see
your
faces
also
because
I
do
talk
about
deep,
dark
places.
I
went
to
on
this
journey
through
my
burnout
and
also
depression,
and
it's
nice
to
kind
of
not
be
speaking
into
a
screen.
So,
thank
you
again
for
being
here.
My
name
is
julia
and
we're
going
to
get
started
so
I'll
just
introduce
myself
a
little
bit.
I
am
a
mom.
I
have
an
awesome.
10
year
old,
I
am
from
montreal
canada.
B
I
work
for
a
company
in
montreal
called
cloud
ops.
They
are
awesome
and
I
do
community
and
learning
and
development
for
them.
I
am
also
part
of
the
cncf
community.
Five
years
ago
we
started
doing
meetups
in
montreal
and
in
different
cities
in
eastern
canada.
So
we've
been
running
those
meet-ups
for
several
years
now,
so
you
can
check
those
out
if
you
want
to
join
our
community
there,
I'm
also
an
animal
lover
and
a
cyclist,
and
I
mention
those
things
because
they
are
important
to
the
recovery
of
the
this
experience
and
this
journey.
B
B
B
So
when
I
saw
the
theme
of
kubecon
and
cloudnativecon,
I
was
like
perfect
because
I
think
we
all
are
resilient.
Humans
in
general
are
resilient
and
it's
something
that
really
could
be
the
theme
of
my
story.
It's
all
about
resilience
and
when
you're
not
feeling
good
and
you're
feeling
down
it's
hard
to.
Remember
that
it's
hard
to
imagine
that
you
can
be
feeling
good
again
or
that
there
will
be
light
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel
and
mental
health
is
something
that
I
never
really
thought
would
affect
me.
B
I
grew
up
playing
sports
and
you
just
keep
going-
and
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
this-
it's
very
taboo
and
it's
very
stigmatized.
So
it's
something
that
for
me
was
a
brand
new
experience
and
actually
that's
why
I'm
here
today,
because
it's
something
that
I
think
we're
again
not
talking
enough
about
and
something
that
can
affect
anyone.
So
I
thought
I
was
pretty
mentally
tough
and
actually
that
was
a
bit
to
my
detriment,
because
I
didn't
have
the
vocabulary
to
identify
what
I
was
feeling
I
didn't.
B
I
couldn't
recognize
the
symptoms
that
I
was
experiencing,
so
it
was
it's
something
that
I
want
to
talk
about
more
openly,
so
that
if
you
are
feeling
this-
or
you
know
somebody
who
is,
you
can
have
that
dialogue
and
open
the
dialogue.
So
again,
I'm
here
to
share
my
experience
just
so.
You
understand
sort
of
what
happened
to
me
and
how
I
got
out
of
it
and
also
again
to
normalize
these
discussions.
B
So
I've
spoken
with
a
lot
of
people
here,
while
I've
been
around-
and
you
know
we're
we're
all
human
at
the
end
of
the
day,
and
we
heard
about
that
in
our
keynotes
today.
You
know
the
people
behind
the
tech
are
really
important
and
the
tech
can't
work
unless
the
humans
are
happy
and
healthy.
So
that's
part
of
you
know
why
we're
here
today
and
why
we
can
talk
about
some
of
these
issues.
B
So
we'll
start
off
with
a
pretty
broad
definition.
Again,
it's
a
bit
of
a
buzzword
these
days,
but
it
is
a
professional
phenomenon
and
it's
recognized
by
the
world
health
organization.
Now
it's
something
that
is
more
and
more
commonplace,
unfortunately,
so
what
is
burnout
so?
Basically
it
can
be.
It
can
manifest
in
different
ways,
but
it's
physical
and
or
emotional
exhaustion
over
time.
So
we
all
go
through
these
kind
of
different
periods
in
our
lives
where
sometimes
situations
are
more
stressful.
B
But
this
is
a
prolonged,
stressful
time,
where
many
many
many
stressors
are
impacting
us
and
we're
not
actually
dealing
with
them
or
integrating
that
stress
or
moving
beyond
that
stress.
So
I
like
to
think
of
it
as
a
bucket-
and
you
know
there
are
things
that
go
into
your
bucket
and
they
fill
the
bucket
and,
at
a
certain
point,
the
bucket
overflows,
because
there's
no
drain
valve
to
release
what
like
the
whatever's
in
the
bucket.
B
B
I
was
cynical.
I
was
apathetic.
I
wasn't
really
very
connected
to
what
was
going
on
in
my
life
and
that,
for
me,
was
a
problem
because
the
person
that
I
am
is
very
different
from
that
person
that
I
was
at
that
time,
so
this
burnout
occurred
in
2019,
so
it
already
has
been
a
couple
of
years
pre-pandemic,
which
was
good
because
when
the
pandemic
hit,
I
was
like,
oh
great,
everyone's,
just
at
my
level
now
so
that
was
really
everyone
was
moving
slowly.
Just
like
I
was
so.
That
was
great.
B
So
I
also
felt
a
lot
of
personal
and
professional
ineffectiveness
and
I
would
say
this
actually
manifested
for
me
more
at
work,
so
I
had
been
at
cloud
ops
already
for
five
years
at
this
time
and
all
of
a
sudden
I
was
like
wait,
I
don't.
I
don't
feel
like
I'm
doing
my
job
very
well.
What's
going
on
like
this,
isn't
working
and
that's
not
working
or
I'm
not.
This
is
you
know,
or
I
was
getting
requests
for
things
and
I
was
just
annoyed.
B
You
know
someone
where's
this
logo
like
what
do
you
mean
where's,
the
logo,
like
you,
should
know
this,
you
know.
So
that's
not
typical
of
my
personality.
So
that's
how
I
started
to
recognize
that
something
was
off.
I
started
to
feel
like
things
just
weren't
working
and
I
wasn't,
I
was
no
longer
really
motivated
to
keep
trying.
B
B
So
it's
kind
of
like
I
was
starting
already
with
a
full-time
job
and
then
I'm
going
into
my
real
full-time
job,
my
work
full-time
job,
my
professional
full-time
job,
and
then
I'm
also
expected
to
perform
and
compete
and
do
all
the
things
that
are
happening
in
that
world
and
that
to
me
was
a
big
challenge.
So
how
do
I
balance
all
of
these
things
and
how
do
I
excel
at
the
same
rate,
at
the
same
pace
as
my
co-workers,
who
are
not
dealing
with
you
know
the
home
job.
So
again
that
was
my.
B
That
was
my
experience.
You
know
and
we're
all
fairly
aware
of
of
the
equity
pay
gap
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
I
think,
there's
there's
a
lot
happening
on
this
level
and
there
needs
to
be
some
form
of
recognition
of
you
know
what
what
are
the
loads
that
people
are
carrying,
and
this
is
this
was
a
big
one
for
me
in
addition
to
those
sort
of
societal
norms.
B
B
So,
for
me
the
triggers
were
really
layers
of
an
onion
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
sort
of
this
idea
of
a
bucket
getting
full.
I
also
like
the
layers
of
an
onion,
because
you
know
things
get
compounded.
So
for
me
there
were
again
environmental
or
circumstantial
things,
and
then
there
was
the
sort
of
personal
programming
side.
B
So
I
went
through
a
really
challenging
separation
with
my
son's
dad,
so
that
took
a
toll
and
then
in
turn
I
became
a
single
parent,
and
that
was
while
wonderful
also,
you
know,
a
lot
of
responsibility
and
work,
and
then
I
went
back
to
work
so
after
having
my
son,
so
I
started
in
a
brand
new
industry,
this
wonderful
one
that
we're
in
in
tech
and
I'm
not
a
technical
person.
So
for
me
the
learning
curve
was
really
steep.
B
I
really
wanted
to
make
sure
I
was
doing
a
good
job
that
I
was
you
know
proving
myself
and
showing
value
to
the
organization
that
yes,
I
meant
to
be
here
as
well.
So
there
was,
you
know
we
all
care
sort
of
how
we're
how
we're
doing
and
how
we're
you
know,
performing
at
work
and
how
how
people
are
perceiving
us
quite
frankly,
and
so
I
was
the
sole
marketer
in
that
organization.
We
were
a
small
company
for
those
five
first
five
years,
so
the
options
of
what
we
did
for
work
were
infinite.
B
We
could
be
doing
all
kinds
of
different
projects,
all
kinds
of
different
growth,
so
over
time.
That
started
to
weigh
on
me
because
it
was
really
overwhelming.
There
was
a
lot
to
be
done.
The
team
eventually
did
grow
and
that
helped,
but
I
think
the
sort
of
the
overwork
damage
had
already
been
done
and
then
for
me
another
layer
of
the
onion
and
actually
really
what
the
element
of
overflowing
my
bucket
was
was
grief,
so
my
beloved
dog
of
13
years
died,
and
this
really
destroyed
me.
B
So
you
don't
really
know
until
you're
in
it
and
so
that
experience
really
sent
me
down
further
into
the
rabbit
hole
that
I
was
already
in,
so
that
paired
all
of
those
sort
of
external
factors
paired
with
again
sort
of
my
personal
programming
or
what
I
was
what
I
was
putting
a
lot
of
weight
on.
I
guess
was
this
desire
to
please
others
to
make
sure
I
was
doing
a
good
job
to
make
sure
they
saw
value
in
me
being
around
proving
myself
this
sense
of
obligation.
B
So
if
somebody
asked
me
to
help
them
or
asked
me
to
go
and
do
something
my
default
was
to
say
yes
and
even
if
it
meant
putting
myself
in
a
situation
that
I
didn't
want
to
be
in
or
that
I
was
like
what
am
I
doing
here.
Well,
the
other
person's
request
or
desire
superseded
mine,
and
that
for
me
I
didn't
really
realize
it,
and
now
I
and
now
I
do
so
we'll
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
later
and,
of
course,
caring.
B
B
There
is
a
feeling
also
of
you,
don't
you
don't
have
to
have
a
certain
criteria
list
to
be
eligible
for
exhaustion
or
burnout,
just
because
you
don't
have
all
of
these
factors
or
have
all
of
these
responsibilities
or
of
all
you
know
whatever
going
on
in
your
life,
doesn't
mean
that
you
can't
feel
exhausted
and
burnt
out.
So
I
just
want
to
mention
that,
because
I
had
somebody
say
to
me
yeah,
but
you
know
you're
dealing
with
all
this
stuff,
and
you
know
I'm
just
I'm.
B
You
know
I'm
just
doing
my
work
and
I
still
feel
that
way
so,
whatever
way,
you're
feeling,
regardless
of
your
situation,
especially
after
this
time
that
we've
lived
through
it's
cool,
it's
it's
okay,
it's
part
of
it's
part
of
who
we
are
and
it's
important
to
recognize
those
things.
So
I
just
want
to
call
that
out,
because
I
think
it's
really
important
to
mention.
B
Okay,
so
I
keep
going
and
I'm
in
this
situation,
where
I
feel
very
overwhelmed
kind
of
all
the
time-
and
you
know
I'm
swimming
in
my
ocean
and
I'm
watching
people
go
by
and
all
of
a
sudden,
I'm
kind
of
feeling
like
this
is
getting
hard,
and
I
don't
know
if
I
can
actually
keep
treading
water.
But
look
everyone
else
around
me
is
just
swimming
on
their
merry
way
like
okay,
so
there's
probably
something
wrong
with
me.
Why
can't
I
do
it?
B
I
guess
we
just
have
to
suffer
through
it
and
at
some
point
you
know
we'll
we'll
get
to
the
end
of
this,
but
that
was
a
bit
of
a
sad
realization,
but
that's
really
what
what
I
felt
so
in
2018
when
I
started
to
feel
really
tired
and
full
of
you
know
the
different
manifestations
of
grief.
I
actually
did
go
see
my
doctor
and
she
had
two
recommendations.
B
So
I
want
people
to
know
that
you
are
not
alone
and
at
that
time
I
felt
like
I
was
very
alone.
Nobody
in
my
circle
was
experiencing
this.
Nobody
I
couldn't
relate
to
anybody,
and
that
was
part
of
the
issue.
Is
that
I
couldn't
when
I
talked
to
people
about
it,
they
couldn't
really
understand
what
I
was
going
through
or
they
didn't
know.
What
kind
of
questions
to
ask
me,
or
what
kind
of
support
to
give
me.
B
So
then
I
actually
finally
break
down
and
it
takes
me
another
year,
so
that
was
in
2018
and
in
2019
I
was
really
struggling
and
I
was
really
suffering
so
I
mentioned
that
my
sleep
patterns
were
not
good.
I
was
crying
all
the
time.
I
started
to
really
question
like
my
self-worth,
because,
again
at
work,
I
wasn't
feeling
like
I
was
in
the
right
place
or,
like
I
wasn't
effective,
and
that
was
really
not
a
great
feeling.
B
So
in
2019
I
went
back
to
my
doctor
and
finally,
she
was
like
okay,
we're
gonna
take
some
time
off.
So
that's
what
I
did
so
on
a
friday
afternoon.
I
went
to
see
my
boss-
and
I
said:
hey
I'm
not
coming
in
monday,
and
I
don't
know
when
I'm
coming
back
in
this
was
probably
one
of
the
most
challenging
things
that
I've
ever
done
and
I've
given
birth.
B
So
that
was
really
hard
for
me
as
the
person
that
I
am
because
it
felt
like
a
complete
failure.
I
felt
like
I
was
juggling
all
these
balls
that
I
got
really
good
at
juggling
and
I
was
literally
just
dropping
them
and
letting
them
fall
and
walking
away,
which
is
so
counter
to
who
I
am
and
what
I
believe
and
what
I
stand
for.
B
I
did
different
talk
therapies.
I
spoke
with
different
coaches.
I
really
started
this
journey
of
recovery
and
because
I
was
off
work,
I
decided
well,
I'm
just
gonna,
throw
myself
into
this.
That's
what
a
go-getter
does.
So
I
was
really
actively
trying
to
get
better
and
fix
myself
to
the
point
where
my
doctor
was
like
julia.
B
I
wanted
to
try
to
see
what
that
experience
would
be
like
because
it
seemed
like
it
could
maybe
help
me.
So
I
did
that
for
six
weeks
and
I
started
on
a
pretty
low
dose
and
I
was
on
a
low
dose
the
whole
time
and
I
ended
up
having
certain
side
effects,
so
I
did
go
off
them,
but
the
benefit
for
me
was
that
I
was
able
to
see
the
black
hole
from
standing
beside
the
black
hole.
B
I
wasn't
actually
in
it
anymore
in
the
tornado
of
that
hole
and
not
seeing
a
way
out,
I
was
actually
able
to
stand
beside
it
and
be
like
okay
cool.
That's
there.
It
is
awesome,
I'm
aware
of
it
now.
One
of
the
other
things
was
that
I
actually
really
wanted
to
feel
joyful.
Again-
and
I
felt
like
it
was
a
bit
of
a
flat
line
for
me,
so
I
wanted
to
be
really
jazzed
about
doing
stuff
with
my
son,
and
I
didn't
really
always
have
that
experience.
B
I
had
somebody
advise
me
like
okay,
pretend,
like
you,
have
little
julia
sitting
on
your
hand
and
how
do
you
take
care
of
her
and
like
she's
so
cute,
you
know
and
there
you
are
a
little
you
sitting
in
your
hand
and
she
hurt
her
leg.
So
what
do
you
do
or
oh
she
feels
sad.
So
what
do
you
do
and
that
experience
or
that
exercise
of
sort
of
taking
care
of
yourself?
B
I
think
we're
really
hard
on
ourselves
and
we
don't
give
ourselves
the
time
and
care
and
love
and
attention
that
we
need,
and
that
really
helped
me
to
kind
of
see
myself
as
the
natural
caregiver
that
I
am
but
to
actually
give
it
back
to
myself
and
that's
something
that
you
can
all
try
so
yeah.
So
I
did
end
up
going
through
this
and,
like
I
said
I
stopped
working.
B
I
was
actually
off
work
for
about
three
and
a
half
months
to
kind
of
recover
and
because
of
my
the
layers
of
my
onion,
it
wasn't
just
a
work
situation.
It
wasn't
just
a
home
or
emotional
situation
or
a
personal
situation.
It
was
really
both
and
I
realized
hold
on
a
second
like
I
don't
know.
If
I
like
what
I'm
doing,
I
don't
know
if
I
I
want
to
be
doing
this
and
when
I
stopped
work,
I
the
idea
of
it
was
like
it
felt
like.
B
I
was
getting
out
of
prison
and
not
because
the
job
was
bad
or
the
company
was
bad.
Actually
was
the
complete
opposite.
It
was
because
I
wasn't
feeling
good
at
that
point
in
my
life
and
so
the
relief
of
that
and
like
really
being
able
to
take
off
the
burden
backpack
and
set
it
down
for
like
five
minutes,
was
huge
and
it's
something
I've
never
actually
done
in
my
life
and
so
that
made
a
really
big
difference
for
me.
B
So
over
time,
as
I
mentioned,
I
did
different
things
to
try
to
feel
better.
I
tried
to
take
care
of
myself.
I
rested,
and
these
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
leveraged
to
feel
better,
so
I
spent
time
outside
and
in
nature,
and
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
horses,
so
that
for
me
was
really
therapeutic.
I
live
in
a
place
where
there's
a
mountain
and
on
the
mountain
randomly
there
is
a
police
station
and
randomly
that
police
station
has
police
horses.
B
So
I
would
bike
up
the
mountain
in
tears,
crying
feeling
horribly,
but
then
I
would
get
there
and
there
were
the
horses
and
I
could
hang
out
with
them
and
just
that
time
to
be
outside
in
a
park
with
fresh
air,
seeing
animals
being
around
them
made
a
really
big
difference
for
me,
gardening
and
kind
of
getting
my
hands
dirty.
I
was
actually
just
having
a
conversation
with
a
few
people
earlier
about
how
using
our
hands
and
doing
something
creative
is
a
really
good
way
of
sort
of
disconnecting
from
from
our
lives
and
our
responsibilities.
B
B
I
grew
a
lot
on
my
own
and
so
learning
to
be
patient,
with
myself
learning
to
listen
to
my
intuition
and
my
body,
so
understanding
like.
Oh
this
person's
asking
me
to
do
this
thing
or
go
to
this
thing.
Do
I
do
I
actually
want
to
do
that?
What
do
I
think
that's
going
to
feel
like,
and
sometimes
the
answer
is
really
clear,
and
sometimes
you
don't
know
what
it
could
be
and
you
could
do
something
and
it
ends
up
being
amazing,
even
though
you
weren't
sure
about
it
at
the
beginning.
B
So
I
think,
like
really
taking
the
time
to
feel
into
my
body
of
like
how
are
things
actually,
how
do
I
think
this
is
going
to
feel
and
not
just
coming
to
it
from
a
rational
place.
The
other
thing
that
is
really
important
that
I
thought
was
awesome.
My
therapist
would
always
ask
me:
what's
the
worst
that
can
happen
and
I
would
answer
okay
and
then
what's
the
worst.
That
can
happen
after
that,
this
thing:
okay
and
then
what
and
then
what
and
so
asking
myself
what's
the
worst
that
can
happen,
it
was
like
a.
B
I
was
like
a
bomb
diffuser
at
that
point
and
so
really
being
able
to
dissect
situations
and
realize.
Okay,
I'm
actually
really
getting
anxious
about
these
things.
But
if
I
sort
of
like
play
the
movie,
you
know
it
doesn't
end
up
being
so
bad
in
the
end,
and
so
that
was
a
really
helpful
trick
as
well.
B
I
learned
to
set
boundaries
and
to
say
no,
which
was
really
really
really
key,
something
I'm
not
used
to
doing
so.
That
felt
really
good,
and
I
also
stopped
judging
myself
for
paying
for
some
services,
so
sometimes
I
had
to
buy
food.
You
know
I
was
the
mom
who
always
wanted
to
make
all
the
home-cooked
meals
and
bake
and
do
all
that
stuff.
So
I
was
really
hard
on
myself
for
actually
buying
pre-made
meals
but
changed
my
life.
B
So
then
I
went
back
to
work
after
three
and
a
half
months
and
I
realized
oh
yeah
right.
I
also
don't
want
to
be
in
marketing
anymore,
so
everything
kind
of
happened
at
the
same
time.
So
again
I
did
some
professional
coaching.
Yes,
I
invested
lots
of
time
and
money
into
my
recovery
and
I
don't
regret
a
single
minute
or
penny
of
it
and
that
really
helped
me
a
lot.
I
was
able
to
better
understand
my
strengths
and
talents,
and
actually
one
of
the
exercises
she
had
us
do
was
to
she
had
me.
B
Do
sorry
was
to
ask
other
people
what
they
thought.
My
strengths
were
so
people
who
were
close
to
me,
my
close
friends,
my
family,
and
that
was
one
of
the
most
empowering
experiences
ever
because
we
don't
always
see
ourselves
the
way
other
people
see
us,
and
that,
for
me,
really
allowed
me
to
have
the
courage
to
go
back
to
my
employer,
who
is
wonderful
and
say
hey.
I
think
I
want
to
make
a
change,
but
because
we're
a
small
company
in
tech
there's
not
that
many.
There
are
not
that
many
roles
for
non-technical
people.
B
Thankfully,
the
wonderful
people
at
cloud
ops
allowed
me
to
actually
pitch
this
role
that
I'm
currently
in,
and
there
was
a
need
for
for
that
in
the
business
at
the
time.
So
I
was
actually
able
to
pivot
and
change
my
the
role
that
I
do
within
that
organization
and
start
learning
new
things.
So
this
was
a
huge
motivator,
also
scary,
because
I
was
in
a
new
world,
but
I
I
really
I
really
got
there
and
I
really
was
excited
about
the
challenge
of
learning
new
things.
B
I
also
work
four
days
a
week
now,
and
this
has
completely
changed
my
life.
It
allows
me
to
have
a
little
space
to
be
on
my
own
to
take
care
of
the
things
I
need
to
take
care
of
to
be
more
present
for
my
son
as
well.
So
it's
something
that
I
I
feel
really
strongly
about,
and
I
hope
that
our
collective
work
culture
will
eventually
head
that
direction.
B
So
it's
been
two
years
what
so
I
talked
to
you
through
my
journey
a
little
bit,
but
I
do
want
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
key
takeaways
for
me.
So
mindset
shift
for
me.
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
this,
but
being
able
to
set
boundaries
being
able
to
kind
of
process
things
in
a
different
way
to
say
no
to
not
always
give
in
to
this
sense
of
obligation
really
helped
me
a
lot.
B
I
stopped
pleasing
everybody
and
started
pleasing
myself
and
making
sure
that
you
know
it's
really
that
thing
on
the
plane,
where
you
got
to
put
your
mask
on
before
helping
somebody
else.
I
really
started
to
embody
that,
and
I
find
that
in
doing
so,
I'm
actually
way
more
prepared
and
ready
to
help
others,
because
I
actually
feel
good
so
making
sure
that
I'm
fulfilled
and
strong
and
healthy
actually
enables
me
to
do
better
work
and
be
more
present
and
be
more
effective,
actually
for
the
responsibilities
that
I
have
in
my
life.
B
I
also,
of
course,
learn
to
identify
my
triggers
and
to
know
to
just
be
have
a
little
more
awareness
in
general
in
life
about
what
what's
bothering
me
and
what's
hard
for
me
and
what's
a
challenge,
and
why
and
just
have
a
little
bit
more
of
that,
and
also
you
know
talking
about
therapy
more
talking
about
these
things
and
really
shifting
to
oh.
This
is
not
you
know.
This
is
not
a
secret
that
people-
you
know
shouldn't
know
about
me.
B
B
Okay,
this
one's
gonna
be
controversial
for
most
of
us
here.
So
twitter
is
not
your
best
friend.
I
know
that's
like
a
really
I'm
like
really
sorry
to
break
the
news,
but
this
is
a
really
big
one,
because
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
social
media
and
it's
our
go-to
thing
whenever
we're
bored
whenever
there's
a
hole
to
fill,
it's
like
we're
we're
on
our
phones
and
doing
that,
so
I
actually
turned
off
all
my
notifications,
I
actually
removed
for
several
years
social
media
apps.
B
B
It
creates
a
lot
of
anxiety.
So
just
to
you
know,
be
aware,
and
mindful
of
that
and
then
a
healthy,
routine
and
habits.
I
think
this
probably
goes
a
little
bit
without
saying,
but
taking
time
to
sleep
enough
sleep
and
resting,
so
there's
a
great
practice
called
yoga
nidra
in
case
anyone
is
interested.
I
mention
it
because
it's
probably
one
of
the
most
accessible
things
you
can
do.
You
can
find
it
on
youtube
or
on
spotify
or
anywhere
really,
and
it's
basically
a
guided
body
scan.
B
B
B
So
if
you
are
feeling
tired
and
you
are
feeling
burnt
out-
please
talk
to
somebody
about
it.
You
are
not
alone.
You
can
reach
out
to
me.
You
can
talk
to
anyone
in
your
circle
who
you
feel
comfortable
with.
You
can
find
a
therapist
and
talk
to
them
about
it
and
prioritize.
What
makes
you
happy,
I
think,
the
pandemic.
If
it's
taught
us
anything,
it's
really
about
what
do
we
value?
What's
actually
important
in
life?
B
You
know
it's
it's
those
things
really
matter
and
it's
about
taking
stock
in
those
things
and
and
appreciating
them,
and
if
you
are
in
a
leadership
role
or
if
you
work
on
a
team
or
you
have
the
ability
to
help
somebody
if
you're
not
feeling
burnt
out
and
you're
feeling
really
happy
and
healthy
and
good
how
you
can
help
people
is
actually
ask
people
how
they're
doing
and
don't
just
ask
out
of
courtesy.
Ask
because
you
actually
want
to
hear
the
answer.
B
So
it
doesn't
mean
that
you
need
to
solve
somebody
else's
problems
or
fix
all
the
things.
It
just
means
that
you
care
enough
to
ask
and
you
care
enough
to
actually
listen
and
to
ask
another
question
to
be
curious
about
how
somebody's
doing
so
listen
attentively
and
if
you
do
have
the
ability
to
help
somebody
shift
either
their
schedule
around
or
to
help
them
in
some
way.
With
some
flexibility.
I
recommend
that
as
well.