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Don’t miss out! Join us at our next event: KubeCon + CloudNativeCon Europe 2022 in Valencia, Spain from May 17-20. Learn more at https://kubecon.io The conference features presentations from developers and end users of Kubernetes, Prometheus, Envoy, and all of the other CNCF-hosted projects.
Panel Discussion: Marketing as Code: How to Rock Out with Non-Code Contributions - Bart Farrell, Data on Kubernetes Community; Kunal Kushwaha, Civo; Kaslin Fields, Google; Matt Broberg, Red Hat; Chris Short, Red Hat
For new folks in the CNCF space, becoming a contributor may sound daunting, and even overwhelming. But guess what? There are tons of ways to contribute apart from code. 5 members of the Contibex Marketing working group (Kunal, Bart, Chris, Kaslin, and Matt) are all participating and contributing through positive attitudes, documentation, networking, videos, drawings, and even raps. They want to share the welcoming spirit of the CNCF where no contribution is too small, and everyone will have something to share. Contributors' stories must be heard, and that's where the upstream marketing team comes in. (This proposal is for the Students' track)
A
B
Hey
everyone
hope
you're
having
an
amazing
time
at
kubecon
and
in
this
panel
we're
going
to
talk
about
how
you
can
rock
out
with
non-code
contributions,
since
this
is
a
student
track-
and
you
know
me
being
a
student
myself,
getting
involved
in
open
source
has
helped
me
tremendously
for
new
folks
who
are
getting
involved
in
the
cncf.
We
know
that
it
may
feel
a
little
bit
overwhelming,
but
do
not
worry
in
this
session.
We
are
going
to
learn
about
how
you
can
get
your
journey
started.
B
C
Sure,
thanks,
hey
I'm
matt
broberg.
I
work
at
red
hat,
but
I've
been
contributing
to
kubernetes
in
my
free
time
I
helped
found
the
upstream
marketing
contributor,
comms
group
and
that's
where
we
focus
on
non-code
contribution
and
helping
contributors
to
kubernetes
talk
to
each
other.
So
that's
what
I'm
up
to
chris!
Why
don't
you
go.
D
Sure
I'm
chris
short,
I'm
a
cncf
ambassador
since
2018
2017,
so
a
while
now
and
then
I'm
also
a
kubernetes
contributor
in
the
sense
of
I've
been
in
sick
contributex
for
a
long
time.
I've
helped
with
multiple
community
events,
including
contributor
summits,
and
I
spend
a
lot
of
my
time
now
on
the
same
team.
That
matt
is
on
the
upstream
marketing
team
and
I'll
hand
it
over
to
caslin.
F
And
I'm
the
last
guy
and
my
name
is
bart,
and
I
am
the
leader
of
the
data
on
kubernetes
community
and
I'm
also
a
cncf
ambassador
and
I'm
here
because
of
all
the
wonderful
people
that
are
also
on
this
panel
that
help
my
onboarding
experience
into
the
cncf
and
getting
started
as
a
as
a
non-code
contributor
contributor
to
kubernetes
anyway.
Just
really
excited
to
be
here
and
sure.
We're
gonna
have
some
fun.
B
D
B
A
B
B
Speaking
from
my
point
of
view,
when
I
first
started
with
you
know:
engineering
my
engineering
degree,
I
thought
like
in
computer
science
and
in
communities
coding
was
the
only
thing
that
mattered
and
when
I
actually
got
involved
in
open
source,
I
realized
how
much
more
efforts
are
required
to
run
a
community
from
my
personal
experience
as
a
student
who
is
just
you
know,
starting
out
with
some
tools
or
technology,
and
you
know
trying
out
different
things.
I
think
the
the
key
thing
for
me
when
I'm
first
starting
already
is
documentation.
B
If
there's
no
good
documentation,
then
it's
gonna
be
like
a
big
no
for
me
to
actually,
you
know,
get
involved
and
contribute
it's
going
to
be
very
hard
right,
so
good
documentation
and
all
these
other
things
are
key
and
contributing
to
such
large
scale.
Open
source
projects,
which
we'll
obviously
talk
more
about
later
on
as
a
student,
can
be
really
overwhelming
at
first
and
the
thing
that
makes
it
really
easy
or
like
sets
a
path
and
provides
you.
The
correct
roadmap
and
mentorship
is
the
community.
If
it
wasn't
for
the
community.
B
B
You
want
to
contribute
to
and
ask
questions
over
there
get
started,
but
those
are
like
some
of
my
experiences
about
how
you
know
I
got
started
with
non-code
contributions,
but
speaking
of
you
know,
running
communities
we
have
bart
over
here
with
us
who
has,
you
know
entirely
focused
on
over
the
last.
You
know
one
year,
building
the
town,
dayton
humanities
community
and
how
he
is
rocking
out
with
non-code
contributions.
So
love
I'd,
love
to
hear
from
bart.
What
would
you
like
to
share.
F
F
That's
that's
really
inside
the
cncf
and
something
that
another
person
in
the
cncf
hippie
hacker
refers
to
as
viral
generosity,
and
I
benefited
from
that
and
from
the
people
who
were
on
this
call
as
well
as
lots
of
other
folks
that
are
out
there
and,
let's
face
it,
you
know
2020
and
2021
have
been
very
hard
years.
What
I
always
say
is
like
a
little
bit
of
optimism,
a
little
bit
of
positive
energy.
A
little
bit
of
welcoming
spirit
goes
a
really
long
way
and
matt.
F
As
the
the
leader
of
our
you
know,
upstream
marketing
meetings
from
day,
one
has
made
me
feel
extremely
welcome.
I
was
transparent
with
him
about
my
background.
He's
talking
about
students,
you
know
5,
000
years
ago,
when
I
was
a
student,
I
didn't
study
computer
science,
I
studied
religious
studies
and
so
I've
suffered
from
imposter
syndrome.
I
was
looking
at
prerequisites
and
thinking.
This
is
definitely
not
for
me
and
now,
as
a
person
who's
been
involved
in
this
community
for
over
for
about
a
year.
I
feel
like
it's.
C
Yeah,
so
I
got
into
sort
of
the
open
source
contribution
lens
from
a
technical
angle,
from
thinking
of
how
products
integrate
with
each
other
and
giving
back
kind
of
technical
requirements
from
my
first
job
out
of
college
was
in
tech
support.
So
I've
always
had
that
lens
of
how
do
the
pieces
fit
together
and
what
is
the
human
experience
of
troubleshooting
things
and
that
gets
that
can
get
lost
in
the
nuance
of
software
engineering?
Quite
a
lot
yeah,
so
I've
always
been
able
to
show
up
and
have
conversations
advocating
for
the
user.
C
Whether
it
goes
into
the
engineering
side
goes
into.
Integration
testing
goes
into
user
experience,
but
at
the
beginning
of
the
lockdown
in
the
pandemic
in
the
united
states
last
year,
I
kind
of
shifted
from
conference
talks
to
looking
to
feel
as
connected
as
I
do
when
I
show
up
in
a
room
with
all
of
you-
and
I
thought,
focusing
in
on
kubernetes
was
the
place
that
I
could
feel
that,
and
the
need
was
way
more
around
like
how
did
thousands
of
people
regularly
contributing
to
one
code
base
talk
to
each
other?
C
E
So
I
went
through
the
the
college
route.
I
did
a
computer
science
degree
a
bachelor's
degree
and
after
school
I
actually
went
back
to
school,
to
not
just
study
but
to
advise
other
students
to
help
out
with
on-campus
groups
to
help
out
with
career
fairs
and
help
to
train
the
students
for
their
upcoming
careers
and
something
that
you're
saying
with
bringing
your
whole
self
to
these
technical
pursuits.
E
I
was
trying
to
express
that
to
one
of
the
students
one
time
they
were
asking
questions
about.
What
do
I
need
to
do
to
be
ready
for
a
job?
Are
there
specific
classes
I
need
to
take?
If
I
want
to
go
this
route,
that
kind
of
thing
and
something
I
was
encouraging
them
about,
especially
when
I
talk
about
resumes
and
all
the
things
you
should
put
on
there.
I
often
talk
about
this
is,
if
you
do
things
outside
of
technology
that
are
really
important
interests
to
you,
volunteer
work
outside
projects.
E
C
B
B
End,
it's
helping
them
only
right,
because
if,
as
a
student
like
matt
mentioned,
you're,
writing
blogs,
you're
doing
events,
and
you
know
if,
basically,
if
you
teach
someone
something
or
if
you
document
whatever
you're
learning,
it's
enhancing
your
knowledge
as
as
well
and
kubernetes,
which
we'll
talk
more
about
later.
It's
really
big,
you
know
the
entire
cncf
landscape.
We
talk
about.
It's
really
big
and
kubernetes.
B
Kubernetes
itself
is
a
big
project.
So
if
you
document
your
learning,
if
you
teach
someone
something
even
like
you
know
your
friends
or
in
a
local
group
or
meetups,
which
you
can
definitely
join,
I
think
it's
definitely
helping
you
stand
out
as
well
and
enhancing
your
knowledge
as
well.
So,
chris,
maybe
you
would
like
to
add
on
to
that
yeah.
D
So
caslin
you
mentioned,
you
know
putting
this
stuff
on
your
resume
and
it
dawned
back.
Like
my
background,
is
like
I
was
working
in
tech
in
high
school
as
a
kid
right
and
my
last
job
before
joining
the
air
force
was
actually
a
webmaster
at
a
dial-up
isp
and
I
joined
the
air
force
in
99
as
the
dot-com
bubble
was
starting
to
happen,
because
I
didn't
really
want
to
go
to
college.
I
didn't
really
want.
You
know
that
whole
experience
thing
that
you
know.
D
I
wasn't
basically
went
to
three
high
schools
in
four
years,
just
because
I
moved
around
a
lot
and
I
was
kind
of
done
with
school.
But
you
know
what
I
picked
up
in
the
air
force.
Was
this
public
speaking
ability
that
I
never
knew
I
had
in
high
school,
and
I
actually
put
that
on
my
resume
and
still
do
right,
because
in
tech
you
never
find
somebody
that's
technical
and
has
a
good
public
speaking
technic
like
capability
right,
like
those
are
like
rare,
finds
in
tech
and
we're
finding
them
more
and
more.
D
Document
that
all
you
have
to
do
is
just
write
that
down
and
put
that
out
there,
and
I
think
it's
it's
always
been
something
that
I've
said
right,
like
I
list
speaking
events
on
my
resume
or
website
or
wherever,
and
you
know
kind
of
catalog
them
almost
as
a
reference
for
myself
like
hey.
When
did
I
do
talk
about
xyz
like
it's
on
my
website
like,
I
don't
have
to
remember
that
or
go
into
some
note
file
or
anything
like
that,
like
I
know
where
to
go,
find
it.
D
Everything
up
and
running
for
less
than
a
thousand
dollars
right,
like
thanks
to
a
whole
bunch
of
innovations
that
have
happened
in
technology
since
I
first
started.
So
you
know
the
the
getting
involved
in
kubernetes
was
just
kind
of
a
natural
progression
of
my
career,
but
getting
involved
to
the
extent
I
have
is
unique
right.
It's
not
often
that
I
consume
a
project
and
also
contribute
back
to
it
like.
This
is
something
that
not
a
lot
of
people
do
on
a
regular
basis,
and
it's
worth
highlighting
the
things
that
are
coming
out
of
kubernetes.
B
E
That's
also
sorry,
I
think
a
great
point.
There
is
the
the
intersection
of
interests
if
there's
something
that
you're
interested
in
and
you're,
not
quite
sure
how
it
relates
to
your
career
or
if
it
does
at
all,
it's
still
okay
to
be
interested
in
those
things
and
to
talk
about
those
things
you
might
find
interesting
intersections
along
the
way,
like
I
said
recently,
there's
great
value
at
the
intersections
of
topics
and.
D
C
You
just
gave
me
a
great
thought
as
well:
caslin
there's
also
a
value
to
looking
at
the
intersection
of
need
and
your
interests,
even
if
the
project
yourself
isn't
exactly
what
you
care
about
like.
Quite
frankly,
this
may
be
controversial
for
this
audience
and
given
the
conference,
I
don't
really
care
that
much
about
container
technology
categorically
like
that.
That's
what
kubernetes
has
to
do
with
that's
what
the
theme
is
like.
That's
not
really
important
to
me
personally,
but
I.
C
I
actually
I'm
really
interested
in
a
lot
of
techno
technological
things,
but
I
am
showing
up
regularly
in
the
kubernetes
community,
because
I
found
it's
got
a
really
interesting
problem
of
scale
of
human
interaction
and
that's
what
I
was
after.
It's
also
like
the
kindest
community.
I've
ever
been
a
part
of
the
most
thoughtful
and
like
how
people
come
together,
really
well
structured
in
some
some
of
its
foundational
principles.
So
I'm
like
I
wanted
to
solve
that
kind
of
communication
at
scale
challenge
by
being
part
of
this
community.
C
The
technology.
Thank
goodness
a
bunch
of
really
smart
people,
are
also
really
interested
in
that
and
fixing
that
or
there'd
be
nothing
to
show
up
to.
But
it's
like
I
get
to
be,
I
think
about
it
like
there's
this
huge
shark
and
I'm
one
of
those
like
little
fish.
That's
by
that's
on
the
side,
just
trying
to
help
clean
things
up
as
the
big
shark
is
moving
along.
It's
I'm
helping
the
overall
system,
even
though
I'm
not
part
of
that
big
main
part
of
it,
and
that
really
resonates
for
me.
C
B
That's
really
yeah,
I
think
that's
important
like
intel
speaking
from
like.
If
a
student
is
you
know,
if
you're
watching
this
talk,
even
it's
a
student
track
so
finding
out
what
you,
like
you
know,
like
exploration,
is
a
great
way
to
do
that,
so
you
know
we
might
be
over
and
like
okay,
do
I
do
web
development
mobile
development?
Do
I
do
machine
learning,
blockchain
or
devops
or
cloud
or
containers,
and
all
that.
B
That's
what
I'm
saying
that's
the
entire
point,
like
that's
the
exactly
the
thing
that
was
in
my
mind
as
well.
So
when
I
started
like
I
explored
various
ways
and
I'm
like
okay,
I
tried
mobile
development
for
a
month.
I
I
don't
like
it,
so
I'm
not
gonna.
Do
it
right
so
and
I
got
involved
in
care,
so
I
was
like
okay,
I
like
this,
so
I
think,
like
it's
also
great
in
terms
of
spreading
awareness
and
because
it
open
source
is
much
more
than
coding
right.
B
This
is
a
community
that
I'm
a
part
of
they
say
collaboration
first
code.
Second,
so
open
source
people.
People
often
ask
me:
can
you
suggest
me
some
beginner-friendly
open-source
project
to
work
on?
I
think,
like
you,
can
directly
jump
on
to
these
bigger
projects
like
you
when
it
is
even
as
a
beginner,
because
there
are
beginner-friendly
issues
for
a
reason
and
there
are
students
in
the
community
who
are
participating.
This
is
like
the
cncf
mentorship
programs,
for
you
know
even
students
and
working
professionals
in
short
people
who
are
new
to
the
community.
B
So
to
answer
the
questions
that
you
know,
people
ask
quite
often
in
the
community
like
just
the
only
way.
The
best
way
to
get
involved
is
get
involved,
and
let's
talk
a
bit
more
about
that
like
how
do
we
actually
get
involved?
How
do
you
actually
get
get
get
started?
So
speaking
of
you
know,
weekly
meetings,
I
know
you
know
matt,
you
run,
you
know
we,
we,
the
you
host
the
marketing
meetings
right
every
week
or
and
stuff.
So
would
you
like
to
share
your
experiences?
C
C
Okay,
don't
stop
there
like
find
ways
of
contributing
online
as
much
as
we
value
the
real-time
collaboration
and
conversation
projects
that
are
really
looking
to
get
that
scale
of
something
like
kubernetes
they're,
trying
to
optimize
for
asynchronous
communication,
which
is
a
fancy
way
of
saying.
We
don't
have
to
do
this.
We
don't
have
to
have
a
meeting
in
order
to
get
something
done
so
learning
principles
of
how
you
do:
project
management,
asynchronously
or
just
looking
through
a
project's
open
issues
and
seeing
if
you
can
solve
something
like
that's
a
that's,
a
real
good
deed.
C
That
will
count
as
a
contribution.
That's
significant,
but
let's
say
you
do
want
to
show
up
to
a
meeting
and
you
are
going
to
start
participating.
It's
really
getting
it
on
your
calendar
and
showing
up
and
continuing
to
show
up
multiple
weeks
in
a
row.
I
keep
reminding
people
for
large
projects,
it's
less
about
how
significant
your
contribution
is,
and
it's
more
about
how
consistent
it
can
be.
C
So
if
you
can
sustain
a
small
amount
of
contribution
for
a
long
time,
large
open
source
projects
will
be
better
off
for
it
there's
a
term
for
the
other
way.
It's
called
a
flyby
contribution
and
no
matter
how
thoughtful
the
code
is
and
how
powerful
it
is
like
open
source
integrations.
It
takes
longer
than
just
like
a
pull
request
as
drops,
and
then
you're
done.
It's
like
well.
Did
you
get
it
in
the
right
format?
Is
the
commit
in
the
right
way?
C
Is
it
going
to
be
mergeable
or
even
the
code
aside
like
you
could
be
very
helpful
on
one
week,
but
if
I
can't
count
on
you
two
weeks
from
now,
it
can
be
challenging
unless
we
have
some
sort
of
project
scopes,
that's
got
a
beginning
middle
and
end.
So
my
one
part
of
advice
there
is
get
it
on
your
calendar.
C
If
you
want
to
start
showing
up
give
yourself
something
like
don't
sign
up
for
it,
unless
you
feel
like
you
could
keep
going
for
three
to
four
weeks,
I
think
is
a
good
minimum
is
in
my
head,
yeah
and
or
just
be
really
upfront,
be
like
hey,
I'm
just
kind
of
shopping
around
trying
to
get
to
know
this
project
I'll
be
here
this
week.
I
hope
to
see
you
again,
but
no
guarantees
and
that
sort
of
framing
is
it's
really
helpful
for
the
project
leads
and
chris.
D
Well,
I
like
I
have
that
constant
problem
of
for
a
while.
It
was
saying
yes
too
much,
but
now
it's
like,
I
know
that
I
can
only
you
know,
spend
so
much
extra
free
time
doing.
You
know
work
in
the
community,
so
I
have
to
be
very
specific
with
you
know
what
I'm
doing
week
to
week
right
and
right
now,
I'm
on
the
comps
team,
for
you
know
the
upcoming
contributor
summit
for
cubecom
that
you're
hearing
this
talk
at.
D
I
was
focusing
on
two
weeks
ago
and
for
two
weeks
straight,
so
I
wasn't
able
to
contribute
to
the
community
as
much
so
I
let
people
know
that
internally,
so
that
they
would
kind
of
understand.
You
know
like
hey
chris
is
doing
this
right
now.
He
might
not
be
responsive,
but
he's
able
to
help
if
you
really
need
him
kind
of
thing
right.
D
So
just
kind
of
signaling
that
to
people
in
advance
is
super
helpful,
but
also
right,
like
you
have
to
be
mindful
of
your
own
time
and
your
responsibilities,
because
I've
gone
I've
over
rotated
at
times
in
certain
positions
to
contributing
too
much
to
the
community
and
not
enough
to
work.
You
know
so.
You've
you've
got
to
find
that
balance
and
the
the
metric
you
use
matt
like
three
to
four
meetings.
D
If
you
can
make
those
meetings,
you'll
pick
up
work
during
them
and
you
know
you
might
be
able
to
accomplish
it
during
the
meeting
or
it
could
be
something
that
you
know
you
work
on
it
for
a
week
or
two.
You
update
the
pr
or
the
project
board,
saying
hey.
I've
got
something
ready
and
you
know
the
team
looks
at
it.
We
get
it
merged
in
and
off
we
go
right.
So
yeah,
that's
a
very,
very
astute
point.
Matt.
D
F
Yeah,
I
think
it's
I
think,
what's
important
with
that,
too,
is
like
just
understand
that
you
know
this
is
everything
everyone's
doing
this
in
their
free
time,
and
so
whatever
you
can
give
is
totally
welcome
and,
and
everyone
will
be
happy
about
it,
and
but
if
you're,
just
a
friend
and
say
like
I
just
want
to
attend
the
meetings
and
kind
of
and
some
people
don't
turn
their
cameras
on,
and
some
people
prefer
to
type.
And
oh
that's,
okay,
like
oh,
that's,
fine!
We
respect
everyone's.
F
You
know
comfort
level
of
how
involved
they
want
to
be
some
people
are
you
know
english
isn't
their
first
language,
and
so
that
also
has
to
be
taken
into
consideration,
and
there
are
also
lots
of
different
ways
for
folks
for
whom
english
is
their.
You
know,
second
or
third
language,
to
get
involved,
translating
documentation,
localizing
different
things,
that's
huge
value
so
like
there's,
it's
once
again
just
to
open
it
up
more
in
terms
of
possibilities,
but
I
think
what
what
everyone's
saying
here
too
is
just
be
realistic.
F
First
of
all
with
yourself,
and
then
you
can
be
more
realistic
with
others.
Sometimes
we
see
very,
very
high
energy
levels
and-
and
but
you
also
have
to
remember
you-
know-
sustainability
you're,
either
studying
or
you're
working
all
those
different
things
that
you
have
to
balance,
but
just
find
out
what
works
for
you
and-
and
I
think
also
just
understand
that
being
a
non-code
con,
you
know,
contributor
doesn't
necessarily
mean
having
you
know,
live
streaming
on
twitch
or
things
like
that
right,
everybody
has
to
find
their
own
way.
F
Look
at
your
skill
set.
One
thing
I
want
to
emphasize
as
well
too
with
young
people
that
I
find
a
lot.
Is
that
there's
a
sort
of
assumption
that
I'm
young,
I
don't
have
experience,
maybe
some
things
you're
less
experienced,
but
if
you've
lived
on
this
earth
for
18
20
years,
you've
had
lots
of
experiences.
The
question
is
kind
of
what
chris
and
matt
were
mentioning
about.
F
You
know
documenting
that
stuff,
like
whether
it's
your
website,
whether
it's
your
twitter,
whether
it's
your
linkedin,
you
start
writing
down
all
the
different
things
that
you've
learned
all
the
different
people
you've
interacted
with.
That
is
a
skill
you
know
like
that
is
that
is
that
counts
like
that.
It's
just
as
someone's
40
years
old
doesn't
mean
they've
really
been
a
sponge
for
everything.
F
But
it's
not
necessarily
the
case,
so
don't
don't
sell
yourself
short
just
because
of
of
your
age.
You
definitely
can
contribute
it
just.
It
may
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
find
a
way
how
to
match
those
things.
What
castle
was
mentioned
earlier,
as
well
as
one
you
might
have
a
skill
set
that
might
seem
completely
unrelated
as
mine.
You
know
once
again,
as
an
outsider
first,
getting
in
and
realizing
well,
no.
I
can
contribute,
because
I
can
help
out
with
video
production.
I
can
encourage
other
people
to
participate.
F
C
No,
that's
cool,
though
that's
really
cool
yeah.
No,
I
just
wanted
to
add
on
to
that
part,
because
the
inexperience
is
a
unique
skill
that
you
only
have
for
a
limited
amount
of
time,
and
it's
taken
me
my
whole
career
to
really
recognize
that,
like
I
value
inexperience
as
much
as
I
value
expertise
because
expertise
like
that's
the
only
way,
you're
going
to
get
really
deep
into
something
and
be
able
to
fix
complex
problems.
C
But
if
you
have
expertise,
you
are
too
far
away
from
inexperience
to
be
a
great
representative
of
that
new
user
experience
and
guess
what
there
will
always
be
more
new
users
than
there
will
be
long
time.
Users
just
right
like
the
natural
funnel
of
usage.
So
we
always
always
need
new
people
joining
projects
and
saying,
like
hey,
I
don't
get
why
this
works.
C
That
way,
that's
a
gift
to
a
community
to
acknowledge
that,
like
I
don't
know
how
it
works
and
if
you
are
willing-
and
you
have
time
to
stick
around
and
help
us
resolve
the
documentation
or
explain
it
to
the
next
person
that
shows
up.
That
is
a
huge
contribution
that
you
should
absolutely
consider
a
huge
part
of
your
career.
C
E
And
I
want
to
add
on
to
this:
we've
been
talking
about
community
and
there
have
been
a
lot
of
points
that
have
come
up
in
all
of
these
conversations
that
we've
been
having
about
community,
and
I
wonder
if
people
are
imagining
it
the
way
that
we
do,
because
I
think
when
I
was
getting
started
with
open
source.
I
thought
an
open
source
community
is
a
very
different
thing.
F
E
Lot
of
these
communities
I'm
talking
about,
usually
you
would
interact
with
them
on
person,
but
you've
had
to
interact
with
them
online
for
the
last
couple
of
years
and
that
might
have
been
a
really
rough
experience.
But
the
open
source
community
of
kubernetes
and
a
lot
of
the
other
open
source
communities
have
been
online
for
a
long
time
and
we've
run
up
against
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
come
with
being
online
and
being
global.
B
Most
definitely-
and
I
think,
like
from
a
student's
point
of
view,
they
might
be
having
this
question
as
well.
Like
you
know
what
might
be
like
the
prerequisites,
so
we
talked
about
git
and
stuff
and
it's
highly
possible
someone,
you
know
even
working
professional.
Some
working
professionals
are
not
familiar
with
git,
which
is
totally
fine
by
the
way.
B
D
Yeah,
I
mean
just
because
I've
been
doing
this
for
a
while
doesn't
mean
I'm
an
expert
at
it.
Right
like
I
want
to
make
that
abundantly
clear,
no
one's
an
expert
at
git,
not
even
linus,
four
vaults
anymore,
right,
like
it's
so
vast,
no
one's
an
expert
at
every
bit
of
kubernetes,
because
it's
so
vast
like
go
to
l.c
and
cf.io
you'll,
see
what
I'm
talking
about
the
kubernetes
land
or
the
cloud
native
landscapes
massive.
D
So
you
know
like
there's
a
minimum
level
of
knowledge
you
kind
of
have
to
have
with
git
and
markdown
files.
So
if
you've
ever
seen
a
readme.md
file
on
a
github
page,
that
is
markdown,
that's
being
rendered
as
html.
You
just
need
to
know
the
markdown
part,
which
is
actually
not
that
bad
like.
If
you
want
to
link
to
something
there's
a
certain
syntax,
you
use
it's
pretty
simple.
D
The
get
stuff
is
the
hard
stuff
and
there's
actually
an
xkcd
comic
that
I
refer
to
frequently
when
teaching
people
get
is
don't
be
afraid
to
save
your
progress.
Like
save
that
one
file
you
worked
on
blow
away
the
repo
re,
pull
it
down
and
then
restart
the
process
of
editing
right
like
copy
your
file
back
into
the
repo
like
you
can't
be
afraid
of
that,
because
you
touch
something
wrong
and
something
else
breaks
in
the
chain
that
is
expected.
We
help
people
with
that.
B
And
for
folks
who,
for
whom
this
might
be,
you
know
their
first
cube
con,
which
I
I
truly
wish
are
a
lot
of
people,
because
last
year
we
had
so
many
new
folks
joining
in
you
might
be
wondering
dude.
What
is
what
is
cuban
it
is.
All
of
this
is
fine,
but
why?
What
what
is
cuban
it
is,
and
why
is
it
so
important?
What's
all
the
fuss
about
so
yeah
matt?
Would
you
like
to
add
your
two
cents
on
that.
C
God,
that's
a
massive
one
and
I'm
trying
to
remember
again
like
being
deep
in
a
subject
pulling
back
out
to
student
mindset.
So
if
I'm,
if
you're
new
to
this
here's,
how
I
approach
it
for
people
deep
in
this,
I
apologize
for
its
inaccuracies
but
in
a
nutshell,
like
a
lot
of
us
talk
about
cloud
computing
and
we've
all
have
some
sort
of
service
that
syncs
across
the
cloud.
C
So,
if
you're
participating
in
a
community
like
kubernetes
we're
talking
to
the
people
that
care
about
how
that
plumbing
works,
it's
the
nerdy
stuff,
the
layers
below
I
think
about,
like
you
know,
you've
got
the
pretty
stuff
above
the
ground
and
we're
living
below
ground
on
the
internet,
seeing
how
the
pieces
fit
together.
So
in
that
space,
there's
sort
of
been
a
paradigm
shift
towards
something
called
containers.
You
can
google,
that,
after
and
to
make
containers
run
at
scale
like
the
main
project.
C
The
number
one
project
in
the
world
to
do
so
is
kubernetes
so
to
contribute
to
kubernetes
is
to
contribute
to,
I
believe,
the
second
largest
open
source
project
in
the
world
right
now
right
and
it
is
to
influence
like
the
experience
of
pretty
much
every
major
business
in
the
world
as
they
figure
out
how
to
run
containers
at
scale.
So
it's
one
of
those
ones
like
if
you
fix
a
documentation
bug
in
the
kubernetes
community.
B
But
now
the
next
question
you
might
be
wondering
is
okay
panel.
That
is
fine.
You
know
very
cool
stuff
billions
of
dollars.
You
know
millions
of
people,
all
these
things
that's
great,
but
what
are
what
am
I
going
to
get
out
of
it
in
terms
of
let's
say,
skills
or
experience,
because
I'm
a
student
I'm
looking
for
enhancing
my
resume
or
whatever,
and
you
know,
connections
and
internships
and
all
these
things
so
maybe
castling
you
can
add
on
to
that.
E
Those
things
that
matt
mentioned
are
all
great
reasons
to
get
involved,
being
able
to
say
on
your
resume
that
I
contributed
to.
Kubernetes
should
raise
some
eyebrows
just
about
anywhere
that
you
apply
these
days.
Most
businesses,
like
we
said,
are
using
kubernetes.
So
if
you
have
some
expertise
in
that
area
and
by
the
way,
kubernetes
is
eight
years
old
now
and
it's
grown
in
popularity
immensely
very
quickly,
the
craft
is
going
to
be
like.
E
So
that
means
that
a
lot
of
the
businesses
today
that
are
starting
to
use
kubernetes
do
not
have
built-in
experienced
bases
of
of
employees
who
know
how
to
use
kubernetes.
You
could
come
in
and
know
more
than
people
who
have
been
working
at
that
company
for
15
years
about
this
new
thing
that
they
now
have
to
adopt.
So
you
can
play
a
really
important
role
in
these
companies.
E
So
that's
a
huge
benefit
is
developing
the
skills
of
just
understanding
kubernetes,
and
it
can
give
you
some
great
insight
into
how
a
lot
of
businesses
work
because,
like
we
said,
a
lot
of
businesses
are
starting
to
use
this
because
they
see
that
it
reflects
their
business
models.
But
also
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
networking.
E
We've
talked
a
lot
about
how
this
is
a
community
kind
of
the
open
source
community
of
kubernetes
is
kind
of
a
an
expression
of
our
social
networks
and
so
you'll
get
connected
with
a
lot
of
people
who
are
already
working
in
the
industry,
a
lot
of
other
students
or
people
who
are
transitioning
into
the
industry.
You
can
make
a
lot
of
great
connections
that
way
and
show
off
your
work.
It's
great
to
be
able
to
point
to
the
kubernetes
website
and
say:
hey.
I
helped
with
that
documentation
or
to
kubecon
and
be
like.
E
B
Most
definitely-
and
there
are
many
full-time
roles
as
well,
that
sort
of
like
relate
to
what
people
do
in
community.
You
can
do
you
know
technical
writing.
For
example,
you
can
do
you
know
developer
advocacy
where
you,
your
role
is,
you
know,
developer
advocate
is
a
developer's
best
friend,
so
you're
speaking,
you
know
you're
working
closely
with
the
developers
and
people
who
use
the
project,
helping
them
get
started,
running
events
and
you
know
doing
writing
and
all
these
other
things
now.
B
F
That's
pretty
interesting
many
ways
to
get
started.
There's
nothing
one
way,
yeah,
there's
not
only
one
way
to
get
started,
something
that
you
can
all
mention
a
while
back
is
like.
What's
your
best,
how
do
you
learn
best?
Do
you
learn
best
by
listening?
Do
you
learn
best
by
watching?
Do
you
learn
this
by
reading
the
combination
of
those
things
we've
already
mentioned
some
options
about
attending
a
sig
meeting.
F
If
you
literally
go
and
type
c
and
cf,
and
any
technology
that
you're
interested
in
you'll
probably
find
somewhere
to
go
you
also
the
cncf
slack
you
can
hop
in
and
ask
and
people
will
be
happy
to
help
you
out.
You've
got
tons
of
podcasts
that
are
out
there,
whether
it's
from
danpop
from
craig
box,
a
very
very
long
list
castle
does
a
show
on
cloud
dave.
Tv
chris
is
super
active
as
well
doing
live
streams,
so
there
there's
no
shortage
of
options,
don't
be
overwhelmed
by
the
options.
F
Just
understand
that
you
might
start
with
one
and
maybe
you'll
switch
to
another.
Do
a
little
bit
of
homework.
First,
don't
be
in
a
rush.
This
is
a
long
term
process
and
then,
once
you
have
a
little
bit
of
background,
then
you're
going
to
get
some
ideas.
You'll
get
some
of
the
vocabulary.
There's
also
some
great
resources
from
dims.
F
F
If
you
think
about
the
vast
number
of
people
that
are
all
here
together,
building
something
imagine
they
were
building
a
house
that
revealing
the
city,
all
that
collective
energy
going
into
one
place
is
extremely
exciting.
It's
extremely
rewarding
and,
like
I
said
it's,
what
really
sparks
that
generous
viral
generosity
that
will
make
you
go
out
and
do
the
same
to
to
invite
others
to
have
the
same
experience
you're
having.
B
Most
definitely
well
that
was
it
for
this
panel
and
I
hope
you
all
have
a
great
kubecon.
There
are
so
many
other
amazing
talks
in
this
student
track.
So
as
we
you
know,
in
order
to
sum
up,
the
best
way
to
get
involved
is
just
to
get
involved,
because
all
the
other
things
will
come
by
its
own.
The
mentorship
and
guidance.
We're
gonna
wrap
this
stock
up
with
a
nice
wrap
from
bart,
so
hope
you
enjoyed
it
and
yeah.
F
A
Yo
how
to
rock
how
to
roll,
how
to
click,
how
to
scroll,
how
to
get
your
contributions?
Non-Code!
That's
how
I
roll
different
continents
with
different
competition.
We
auto
scale
and
not
just
breaking
down
walls.
No
half
a
fan,
still
a
passive
present
test
cause.
Our
presence
is
immense.
Why
settle
for
dents
when
your
skills
can
pay
the
rent?
But
you
know
with
these
people
nah
there
ain't
she
full
badass
with
class.
Like
mr
melvin
van
peebles,
kunal
k,
teamed
up
with
castle
neptune
long
and
shorter
than
chris
and
broberg
is
most
deaf.
A
Was
it
a
blog
about
nodes,
pause
and
log
thought
in
the
crease
release?
Guess
avitha
a
nod:
you
know
we're
packing
we're
slacking,
never
lacking
on
the
daily
with
skills.
You
know
we're
tracking
all
the
different
ways.
We
fill
the
gaps
and
stories
that
need
to
be
told
hacking
kubernetes
with
machetes
cooler
than
cold
inexperience
is
a
gift
and
it's
giving
that
receipt.
You're.
The
reason
we're
all
here,
a
motivation
to
believe
in
the
power
of
empowering
the
next
generation
so
set
it
in
cage.
Reveal
your
revelation.