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Don't miss out! Join us at our upcoming event: KubeCon + CloudNativeCon Europe in Amsterdam, The Netherlands from 18 - 21 April, 2023. Learn more at https://kubecon.io The conference features presentations from developers and end users of Kubernetes, Prometheus, Envoy, and all of the other CNCF-hosted projects.
What Anime Taught Me About K8s & Tech Careers - Annie Talvasto, Camunda
From One piece and Naruto to Neon Genesis Evangelion and Dragon Ball, Japanese animation is a cultural phenomenon. This session will take you through both the landscape of anime and Kubernetes, with helpful beginner tips to get you started on your cloud native journey. The session will also cover what the heroes of East blue and Planet 4032-877 can teach us about career development in the tech world. Importance of perseverance, inclusion & diversity as well as always having a snack at hand - come and learn how anime can boost your Kubernetes and tech career to the next level!
A
A
So
here
is
a
Venn
diagram
of
kubernetes
and
Anime.
Some
people
usually
ask
me
like
okay,
what
do
these
things
have
in
common?
What
what
are
you?
What
are
you
actually
talking
about?
Well,
I,
think
this
Venn
diagram
really
describes
what
I'm
here
talking
about
and
I
think
a
good
way
to
put
it
that
if
you
know
anime
and
kubernetes
like
if
you're
familiar
with
both
at
least
to
a
certain
extent,
you
are
absolutely
in
the
perfect
place
you
are.
You
have
found
your
people
amazing
to
see
you
here.
This
is
the
session
for
you.
A
Essentially,
if
you
know
kubernetes,
but
you
do
not
know
that
much
about
anime,
then
great.
You
will
learn
a
lot
more
about
anime
today,
but
if
you
know
anime
but
are
new
to
communities,
then
you're
going
to
learn
about
kubernetes
today.
So
this
is
how
the
Venn
diagram
essentially
Works
in
this
case.
A
But
if
you
don't
know
either
you
don't
know
nothing
about
either
one
of
these
topics,
then
you
might
be
a
tiny
bit
lost
throughout
the
presentation
but
just
hold
on
and
stick
for
the
roller
coaster
and
see
how
it
goes
and
welcome
I'm
happy
to
have
you
here
as
well.
If
you're
learning
about
all
of
these
things
for
the
first
time
so
a
bit
about
me.
A
So
as
mentioned
there,
I'm
Annie,
I'm,
a
senior
product
marketing
manager
at
kamunda,
I'm,
a
cncf
Ambassador,
as
well
as
an
Azure
MVP,
also
do
a
lot
of
other
things
such
as
kubernetes,
cncf,
Meetup,
co-organizing,
being
the
host
of
a
podcast
and
producing
it,
and
the
startup,
coaching
and
so
forth.
But
that's
kind
of
like
the
standard
introduction
to
me
and
I.
A
Think
much
more
relevant
to
this
session
is
actually
the
fact
that
I
have
watched
way
too
much
anime
in
my
life,
which
kind
of
then
puts
me,
maybe
I'm,
not
an
expert
I,
don't
think
you
can
ever
be
an
expert.
You
can't
see
everything
but
at
the
same
time,
I
stopped
what
I
stopped
counting,
how
many
animals
I
have
finished
at
the
around
150
Mark,
so
I
think
that
maybe
gives
some
kind
of
an
idea.
So
I
will
have
over
my
10
000
hours
of
training
in
for
watching
anime.
A
So
hopefully
that
helps
you
there
a
bit.
So
what
is
this
session?
Because
it
is
a
bit
of
a
interesting
session,
an
interesting
concept,
so
it
is
particularly
a
beginner
session,
so
there
won't
be
any
deep,
diving
kubernetes
here
we
will
start
from
the
scratch
essentially
and,
most
importantly,
this
session
is
actually
meant
to
be
a
relaxed
and
humorous.
Take
or
two
on
two
fun
topics
that
I'm
both
very
passionate
about.
So
that's.
A
So
we
have
an
agenda
today,
so
introduction
almost
already
done,
so
we
are
making
good
Headway
here,
that's
always
great
to
see,
and
then
we
have
next
up.
We
have
the
badly
Illustrated
anime
fans
guide
to
kubernetes.
Why
the
badly
Illustrated
Panama
fans
Christ
kubernetes?
Well,
because
there's
this
legendary
Illustrated
children's
guide
to
communities
around
which
I
modeled
this
from
and
to
be
honest,
is
I.
Didn't
like
illustrate
this
fully.
A
A
So
we
start
from
a
situation
where
you
have
you.
Can
imagine
a
anime
character?
They
are
alone
in
the
world,
but
they
are
surrounded
by
things
that
they
are
kind
of
familiar
with,
but
they
also
don't
want
to
interact
with
too
much
so
they
are
surrounded
by
things,
but
it's
all
a
bit
too
stressful,
all
a
bit
too
kind
of
taking
a
toll
on
their
mental
health
and
so
forth.
A
A
So
how
does
this
all
relate
to
the
kubernetes
and
the
tech
World?
Well.
Actually,
this
similar
type
of
situation
is
quite
common,
so
if
you
have
an
app
that's
a
very,
very
simple
python-
app,
for
example,
it's
written
in
Python,
it
has
environment
that
they
rely
on.
So
it
has
might
have
said,
web
server,
readable
file
system,
python,
runtime
and
so
forth,
and
if
they're
just
left
alone
in
the
in
their
computer,
they
might
feel
in
similar
way
as
our
anime
heroes.
A
A
So
that's
when
we
need
containers.
So
in
this
example,
when
an
narrative
goes
to
the
ninjagool
to
Shinobi
school,
when
Sona
finds
their
football
team,
they
start
to
find
their
place
in
the
world.
They
get
kind
of
surrounded
by
environment.
They
understand
that
they
know
and
that
they
can
really
start
to
thrive
in,
and
this
is
similar
to
a
container
so
that
lonely
but
kind
of
surrounded
by
messiness.
A
A
simple
python
app
will
now
be
in
a
container
which
gives
it
isolated
context
where
the
app
together
with
this
environment
can
then
run
so
isolated
containers
do
need
to
be
managed
and
connected
the
outside
world.
So
but
there
is
still
a
lot
of
challenges
that
come
just
by
purely
containerizing
your
application,
and
so
it's
actually
our
main
characters
from,
for
example,
Naruto
as
well
just
attending
the
school
won't
solve
all
of
the
issues
that
they
have,
but
they
need
a
bit
more
to
really
thrive
in
the
world.
A
So
there
we
have
kubernetes
that
comes
into
place.
So
that's
when
our
anime
heroes,
then
they
start
finding
themselves
by
going,
for
example,
to
the
team.
So
here
we
have
an
example
of
Naruto,
finding
his
place
with
kakahashi's
team
and
Sona
in
the
American
football
team
and
so
forth,
and
really
starting
to
understand
what
they're
doing
and
also
that
team
becomes
greater
than
the
sum
of
its
part
because
it
becomes
actually.
A
You
know
multiple
entities,
multiple
characters
working
together,
and
this
applies
to
communities
as
well,
so
kubernetes
as
we're
all
here,
probably
familiar
with,
is
a
project
that
focuses
on
building
a
robust
platform
for
running
thousands
of
containers
in
production,
and
it
is
in
container
orchestration
system.
So,
as
you
see
here,
the
team
is
helping
the
anime
heroes,
Thrive
and
so
is
kubernetes
the
containers,
as
well
as
the
applications
within
the
Thrive
truly.
A
A
So
when
you
learn
new
skills
and
you're
accumulating
more
of
them,
you
need
to
start
naming
them
and
different
team
members
will
also
have
to
have
specified
rows
as
well.
In
the
narrative
works.
For
example,
Sarah
here
is
a
medic,
so
that
gives
them
clear
purpose
and
role
and
a
label
to
work
within
that
team
and
then
kubernetes
as
well.
A
Does
this
so
it
uses
labels
as
name
tags,
to
identify
things,
so
it
can
query
based
on
these
labels
and
labels
are
open-ended
so
that
you
can
use
them
to
identificate
roles,
stability
or
other
important
attributes.
So
really
we
can
start
seeing
that
actually
yeah
a
lot
of
the
kubernetes
world
principles
are
actually
similar
in
anime
and
we
can
actually
start
learning
from
both
of
them
together
now,
there's,
obviously
you
know
other
things
that
are
happening
as
well
like
when
you're
finding
your
team
you're
working
together.
A
So
in
here
you
have
an
example
of
part.
So
in
kubernetes
pod
represents
the
runnable
unit
of
work.
Usually
you
will
have
a
usually
a
single
container
inside
a
pot,
but
there
are
cases
where
you
might
have
more
inside
the
pots
as
well.
So
it's
the
smallest
Deployable
unit
of
computing
that
you
can
create
and
manage
in
kubernetes.
A
So
in
here
you
have
this
unit
that
you
can
send
out
and
you
can
have
working
out
there
for
you.
So
as
you
progress
in
your
story,
just
Naruto
Dasa
in
his
life,
you
need
to
learn
new
moves.
So
what
kind
of
moves
do
you
learn?
Quite
fast?
Usually
Naruto,
particularly
you
start
to
learn
cloning
techniques,
and
this
is
obviously
very
applicable
to
the
kubernetes
words,
because
the
replica
sets
are
such
a
big
and
important
part
of
kubernetes
as
well.
A
So
you
need
to
learn
how
to
clone
yourself
in
order
to
take
full
advantage
of
the
berries
to
really
beat
the
various
enemies
that
you
face.
So
replica
sets
provide
Logic
for
scaling
at
the
up
and
down
and
it
can
be
used
for
rolling,
deploys
and
they're
used
to
main
purposes
to
maintain
a
stable
set
of
replica
pots
running
at
any
given
time,
and
as
such,
it
is
often
used
to
guarantee
the
availability
of
specified
number
of
identical
parts.
A
A
Well,
then,
you
need
to
connect
with
the
outside
world
as
well.
You
need
services,
so
it
as
Naruto
has
to
you
know,
interact
with
other
villagers
with
other
teams
with
the
other
units,
and
so
forth.
Communities
needs
services.
So
when
you
have
Services,
you
can
discover
others
and
they
can
discover
you.
A
Now,
as
you
progress
even
more,
you
start
accumulating
a
lot
of
gear
objects.
You
start
accumulating
knowledge.
You
have
all
of
these
things
that
you
are
as
as
ninja
would
be
lugging
around
carrying
around
around
the
world.
So
you
start
needing
storage
and
volumes
as
you're
doing
kubernetes
as
well.
You
can't
just
deal
without
storage,
which
is
in
the
kubernetes
world.
Is
then
volumes?
A
So
you
need
to
kind
of
figure
those
things
in
your
journey
as
well.
So
as
I
think
it's
quite
easy
to
understand
there
there
we
have
some
weapons
and
gear
and
you
need
to
store
them
somewhere.
So
you
do
need
incubernetes
as
well.
So
volumes
is
where
this
comes
in,
so
they
are
a
separate
object
defined
within
the
context
of
the
Pod
that
is
mounted
to
a
particular
container
and
it
can
be
mounted
to
a
different
part
or
it
can
be
mounted
to
a
particular
container
as
well.
A
It's
a
way
for
containers
can
access
and
store
information
and
then,
as
you
move
through
this
world
as
an
anime
hero,
for
example,
you
start
to
realize
that
you
know
your
team
is
great.
You
have
the
storage,
you
have
all
of
these
things
and
you're
working
towards
these
goals,
and
then
you
actually
realize
that
oh
working
in
a
team
is
great,
but
sometimes
you
might
need
your
own
privacy.
Sometimes
you
might
need
your
own
time.
A
So
that's
when
you
need
to,
for
example,
take
a
moment
to
meditate
to
find
some
peace
from
your
teammates
Naruto.
We're
always
kind
of
fighting
about
so
then,
as
kubernetes
does
as
well,
so
we
have
namespaces,
so
they
provide
you
a
bit
of
a
little
bit
of
privacy
and
finding
a
piece
and
Order
within
yourself.
For
example.
A
Here
that's
okay,
it's
meditating,
so
you
can
kind
of
think
about
that
because
it
is
essentially
namespace
is
a
virtual
cluster
inside
a
cluster
because
it
functions
as
a
grouping
mechanism
inside
kubernetes,
so
reflector
sets
volumes
and
everything
can
easily
calibrate
together
with
the
namespace,
and
it
provides
a
degree
of
isolation
from
the
other
parts
so
as
satuka
needs
to
sometimes
cool
off
as
narrowser.
Does
that's
what
namespace
offers
to
your
small
python
application
as
well
there?
A
Now,
after
all
of
these
things,
you
are
starting
to
be
ready
to
take
on
the
world.
You
are
you
have
found
your
home,
you
have
your
team,
you
have
your
storage,
you
have
all
of
these
things
that
you
can
take
then
further
in
your
anime
Journey,
as
well
as
now
in
your
kubernetes
journey
and
really
kind
of
focus
on
them
as
well,
so
that
you
can
become
the
Shinobi
that
you
always
meant
to
be
as
well.
A
A
So
every
cluster
has
at
least
one
worker
node
and
the
working
nodes
host
the
parts
that
are
the
components
of
the
application
workload
and
the
control
plane
then
manages
the
worker
nodes
and
the
paths
in
the
cluster,
and
then
the
control
plane
is
kind
of
you
can
see.
Think
of
it,
that's
the
one
who's
giving
the
orders
out
and
then
the
pods
are.
You
know
the
knots
are
the
ones
who
are
then
executing
the
orders
and
doing
the
heavy
lifting
and
kind
of
working
the
orders
that
the
control
then
plane
gives.
A
So
you
might
be
wondering
how
does
this
look
like
in
the
animal
world?
Well,
this
is
exactly
how
we
look
like,
so
we
have
kakahashi
there,
giving
the
orders
out
to
Naruto,
Sasuke
and
Sakura,
and
they
are
gonna,
be
executing
all
those
orders
and
doing
the
heavy
lifting
as
well
as
then.
We
have
Hokage
there
in
the
high
level
as
a
bonus,
giving
even
higher
level
of
introductions
as
the
cloud
provider
API,
which
is
moving
nicely
there.
So
then
we
have
another
way
of
looking
at
it.
A
It's
the
Japanese
task
force
from
Death
Note,
because
I
think
this
is
a
particularly
good
example,
because
you
have
L
really
giving
the
the
task
force
members
guidance
and
they
really
doing
the
heavy
lifting
and
now
kind
of
just
controlling
everything.
From
behind
now
this
isn't
maybe
applicable
to
every
anime
team,
because
if
you
look
at
the
straw,
hats
technically
Luffy
would
be
the
controlled
plane
there.
But
I
would
say
that
you
know
all
of
the
other
store.
Hats
might
not
always
do
exactly
as
laffy
says.
So
it's
always.
A
It
might
be
a
bit
offered
interpretation,
but
who
knows
so
that's
it
for
the
Kimberly
news
components,
I
think
that
was
nice,
and
then
we
have
10
Lessons
Learned
From
anime.
So
these
are
the
live
lessons
the
portion
that
we
are
going
to
move
on
to
so
I.
Think
a
very
overarching
theme
across
all
of
anime
is
the
importance
of
team
which
has
come
up
today
many
times.
So
we
have
one
piece
Naruto.
A
All
of
these
are
very
focused
on
the
team
and
the
team
is
the
important
thing
that
helps
you
move
forward,
so
the
team
becomes
stronger
together
and
not
just
the
individuals
who
are
contributing
to
it.
So
what's
the
next
level
like
in
Tech
World,
everyone
is
individual.
Talents
are
working
to
build
together
to
build
great
applications
or
infrastructure,
so
that
kind
of
applies
there.
But
what's
the
next
level
then?
Well,
if
you
could,
you
could
combine
yourself
into
one
big
Mecca.
A
That's
just
you
know,
one
being
that's
working
together,
but
then
that's
kind
of
not
likely,
but
if
it
was
to
happen,
I
think
recruiters,
particularly
in
the
tech
world,
are
sometimes
looking
for
these
meccas
around
Who
would
know
everything
to
do
so.
We
have
there
an
image
with
you
know
all
of
these
requirements
that
people
should
know
when
they're
doing
when
they're
working,
but
that
doesn't
always
happen
and
if
you
have
actually
all
of
these
skills
alone,
just
an
individual
person.
A
That
would
particularly
be
a
very
much
a
unicorn
and
incredible
to
see,
but
the
team
really
makes
the
makes
all
of
these
skills
happen
possible.
So
we
have
lesson
two,
which
is
mysterious
characters
with
a
dark
past.
So
these
are
always
working
around
in
animal
world.
So
we
have
Sasuke
there
as
a
good
example
of
this.
So
there
are
characters
that
don't
say
much
almost,
never
smile
they're
a
bit
of
cold-hearted
they
are.
A
A
So
there's
a
lot
of
examples,
I
think,
but
we
have
to
deal
with
these
kind
of
people
or
we
might
be
them
the
people
themselves
in
the
tech
world
as
well,
but
I
think
a
good
example
are
sometimes
people
with
the
dark
past
and
so
forth
could
be
Cobalt
or
Mainframe
coders
and
then
them
having
kind
of
these
kind
of
situations
to
to
manage
in
the
team.
Dynamic
Dynamics.
Another
I
think
really
important
lesson
from
the
annual
world
that
we
can
take
is
self-development.
A
So
when
you're
fighting
all
of
these
villains
in
anime,
you
usually
have
to
level
up
really
fast.
So
you
have
situations
where
you
really
have
to
kind
of
get
up
to
the
next
level
really
quickly.
Now
this
is
usually
done
by
going
to
a
cave
or
time
machine
or
or
something
like
that,
where
you
just
then
emerge
with
all
of
your
talents
and
all
of
your
great
new
skills,
and
now
we
can
think
about
this.
A
Essentially,
for
example,
getting
your
manager
to
buy
you
a
ticket
to
cube
day,
Japan
or
kubecon,
and
you
come
to
the
event.
You
learn
a
lot
of
new
skills.
You
learn
new
things
and
then
you
emerge
Victorious
and
with
all
of
your
new
skills
and
talents
out
from
there,
and
actually
usually
when
you
go
to
the
cave,
you
also
might
learn.
You
might
also
get
a
new
outfits
and
everything.
A
A
It's
all
also
super
important
to
take
time
to
relax
so
with
quite
often
with
animus,
there's,
always
the
the
beach
episode
where
you
then
take
a
moment
to
away
from
the
household
and
bustle
of
the
world,
and
you
actually
just
relax
and
take
some
holiday
and
also
if
the
animal
anime
heroes
who
are
saving
the
world
have
the
time
to
go
to
the
beach
and
do
these
kind
of
activities.
Everyone
here
has
the
time
to
take
some
time
off
as
well
to
focus
on
their
well-being
and
I.
A
Think
a
really
interesting
other
thing
here
is
the,
for
example,
feature
phases
can
kind
of
have
the
same
effect
as
these.
So
when
you
have
a
feature
freeze,
you
don't
do
new
features,
you
actually
just
work
on
the
technical,
Legacy
and
I
make
sure
the
technical
depth
is
all
figured
out,
so
the
plot
line
is
on
hold
and
the
episodes
are
on
hold
so,
but
you
need
to
take
some
time
off
and
after
you
get
back
to
work,
you
need
to
then
be
ready
for
everything
that
then,
when
the
danger
comes
back,
you
are
ready.
A
So
then
you
need
to
be
ready
to
jump
out
of
the
window
at
a
moment's
notice.
When
the
danger
danger
comes
in
and
approaches.
You
I
think
this
really
highlights
the
importance
of
monitoring
and
alerts
and
good
visibility
into
your
environments
in
the
tech
world
and
in
kubernetes
world,
because
you
need
to
be
able
to
know
when
there
is
something
that
you
need
to
take
action
on
and
obviously
in
here
our
heroes
are
taking
action
very
fast
and
I.
A
Think
that's
also
important
to
remember
in
the
tech
world,
because
if
we
have
a
really
good
monitoring
setup,
that's
not
enough!
We
actually
have
to
take
action
on
those
alerts
to
get
further
lesson
number
six.
So
we
have
importance
of
documentation.
So
you
need
to
know
what
your
team
members
are
doing
and
you
need
to
understand
the
historical
context
around
it.
So
what
could
be
better
than
yelling
out
your
every
move
when
you
are
doing
them
so
like
you're,
stealing
Bank
whatever
you
need
to
do
a
move
and
then
out
loud?
A
Obviously,
so
the
bad
guys
might
be
able
to
tell
what's
happening
from
there,
but
luckily
there
are
no
bad
guys
in
the
development
room.
So
that
means
that
just
yelling
these
out
loud
is
only
beneficial,
there's,
no
backsides
or
drawbacks
to
it.
At
all,
another
big
thing
is
enduring
in
Long
fights,
so
you
need
to
have
the
stamina
to
fight
long
fights
and
endure
and
I
think
Tech.
A
World
is
no
longer
to
Big
projects,
never-ending
kind
of
features
and
everything
and
building
these
things,
as
so
are
the
Dragon
Ball
Z
character
is
very
used
to
Long
fights
as
well.
So
it's
always
a
marathon,
not
a
Sprint,
but
it
might
be
a
Sprint
or
Marathon
made
up
of
Sprints
as
well.
There
and
I
think
the
one
thing
that
we
need
to
remember
that
when
we
go
to
these
events
and
we
get
inspired
or
we
do
anything,
we
get
inspired.
Oh
I'm,
going
to
try
that
project
that
project's
gonna
add
this
thing.
A
A
So
we
must
remember
this
as
technology
professionals,
professionals
as
well,
so
that
we
don't
kind
of
dive
too
deep
into
everything
possible
and
then
over
complicate
our
environments
and
kind
of
become
the
monster
there
and
obviously,
for
example,
having
too
many
service
messages
there
are
colliding
widgets
rather
might
be
a
thing
that
you
might
look
out
for
and
so
forth.
Then
we
have
the
next
lesson,
which
is
ridiculous:
power,
scaling
and
I
think
this
is
a
very
common
theme
in
anime,
as
well
as
in
kubernetes
as
well.
A
So
kubernetes
is
built
for
scale,
so
you
can
actually
start
seeing
it
here,
like
yeah
sure
kubernetes
actually
is
quite
applicable
to
anime,
both
of
our
about
hyper
scaling
and
so
forth,
and
then
we
have
lesson
10,
which
is
always
have
a
snack
at
hand
and
I
think
this
is
very
understandable
and
makes
sense
for
everyone.
I
get
very
hungry
and
hungry,
sometimes
so
do
the
anime
hero
so
and
that's
something
that
we
should
remember
in
our
work
as
well.
To
always
have
a
snack
at
hand.
Hydrates
bring
water
and
keep
those
things
in
mind.
A
But
across
all
of
these
lessons
we
have
one
bonus
lesson
left,
so
the
most
important
lesson
is
believe
in
yourself
and
I
think
this
is
a
very
important
thing
for
every
one
of
us
to
remember
to
get
when
you
want
to
get
faster
and
get
stronger
and
fulfill
your
potential.
Just
believe
that
you
can
do
it,
then
you
can
make
it
through.
A
A
B
A
Well,
honestly,
I
usually
recommend
to
look
into
what
kind
of
genres
do
you
usually
like
and
then
going
from
there
so
like
if
you
like,
if
you
are
watching
Marvel
movies
normally
or
something
like
that,
then
maybe
going
for
some
classical
action
ones,
so
Naruto
or
bleach
or
one
piece
or
something
like
that.
If
you're
more
into
romance
generous
there's
a
lot
of
great
romance
stories
as
well
and
I.
A
A
B
A
That's
a
that's
a
good
question,
I
think
for
me,
so
I've
always
really
loved
stories
in
every
format
possible.
So
I,
absolutely
love
like
traditional
western
movies
as
well.
I
love,
books,
I
love
nowadays,
I
read
a
lot
of
webtoons
as
well,
so
from
Korea
as
well
and
everything
so
for
me.
Anime
I,
particularly
like
because
every
country
and
every
culture
has
their
own
kind
of
set
of
cliches
as
well
and
tropes
that
they
kind
of
repeat
and
I
think
it's
always
fun
to
discover
a
new
one
from
a
new
kind
of
culture.
A
A
new
kind
of
art
form.
So
that's
really
nice
and
I
do
think.
There's
such
a
variety
and
a
great
amount
of
Storytelling
in
anime,
and
it's
a
really
great
medium
and
I
think
particularly
why
I
like,
and
you
might
think,
because
it's
such
a
good
animation
form,
so
it
becomes
kind
of
you
can
have
these
much
more
Fantastical
and
Whimsical
worlds.
Then
let's
say
if
you
have
actors
playing
out
things,
because
if
you
have
humans
kind
of
already
like
as
humans,
some
things
might
seem
a
bit
ridiculous.
A
But
if
it's
animated,
it
kind
of
becomes
maybe
easier
to
have
things
that
are
kind
of
more
imaginative
and
more
creative,
so
I
think
that's
a
really
great
way
of
looking
at
at
least
that's
from
my
perspective,
but
I
think
there
is
exactly
as
many
reasons
to
like
anime
as
they
are
anime
Watchers
in
the
world.
So
it
depends
always.