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From YouTube: CNCF CNF WG Meeting - 2022-06-06
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All
right
yeah,
so
if
you
can
add
yourself
to
the
meeting,
that's
be
appreciated.
Those
notes
have
been
posted
to
the
zoom
chat.
I
think
they're
also
available
in
the
calendar,
those
who
haven't
joined
this
call
before
this
is
the
cloud
native
network
function
working
group
we
meet
every
monday
at
1600,
utc.
A
I
may
put
up
a
doodle
poll
for
that,
so
it
would
be
8
a.m,
pacific,
which
I
think
is
1600
bst,
england
reference
all
right,
so
we're
looking
at
we'd
like
to
complete
our
co-chair
elections.
We
have
a
couple
of
entries,
but
if
anyone
else
is
interested
in
putting
their
name
forward
or
if
you
know
someone
who
might
be
good
and
you
want
to
reach
out
to
them
and
ask
them
to
put
their
name
forward,
don't
move
this
work.
Your
belonging.
A
Such
then,
please
have
them
jump
on
the
mailing
list
and
they
could
submit
their
name.
A
Big
announcement
for
those
who
haven't
seen
already
cncf
launched
a
cnf
certification
program.
This
is
a
beta
release.
A
I'll
get
back
into
it
here
in
a
minute
when
I
give
an
intro.
Let's
see,
cfps
are
closed
on
a
lot
of
things,
but
they
are
open
for.
A
Let's
see
well,
no
they're
closed
for
open
source
summit
eu
now
it's
past
may
30th
and
kubecon
north
america
closed
this
past
friday.
So
those
are
closed.
The
open
network,
edge
summit,
cfps
and
developer
testing
forum-
I
don't
know
if
either
of
those
are
open.
As
of
yet
the
cfps.
A
A
This
certification
is
there
to
help
network
equipment
providers,
vendors
that
are
creating
cns
to
communicate
that
they
are
following
cloud-native
best
practices
so
that
the
csbs
are
consuming
and
utilizing
those
cns
and
know
that.
So
that's
what
this
certification
is
about,
similar
the
kubernetes
conformance
program
that
cncf
runs.
A
This
for
the
beta
release.
It
has
one
level
certified
by
kubecon
north
america,
probably
we're
going
to
be
introducing
multiple
levels
like
silver,
gold,
platinum,
whatever
those
levels
may
be,
there's
actually
already
tests
and
a
lot
of
the
tests
in
place
that
would
be
going
into
additional
levels
are
already
there.
So,
if
you're
running
through
using
the
certification
software
and
passing
more
of
the
test,
then
you're
going
to
be
more
ready
for
those
next
levels.
A
So
again,
you
can
go
to
cncfao.
Cnf
start
there's
some
terms
and
conditions.
Some
participation
forms.
That's
when
you
get
started
the
first
time,
if
you're
submitting
a
new
version
of
a
product
that
comes
out
or
maybe
even
new
products
as
as
you're
coming
forward,
you
won't
have
to
do
everything
again
and
again.
A
How
to
get
certified
so
that,
after
you
get
through
that
those
technical,
the
requirements
for
terms
and
conditions,
there's
some
technical
prerequisites
which
are
pretty
straightforward,
certified
kubernetes
cluster,
a
linux
workstation
where
you'll
run
the
actual
test
software,
pointing
a
cube
config
at
your
kubernetes
cluster.
A
A
Tell
it
to
utilize
your
cnf,
with
the
configuration
run,
the
cert
command
and
you'll
get
a
set
of
results
on
the
console
output,
as
well
as
saved
into
a
file
you're
going
to
use
that
file
along
with
a
few
other
things.
When
you
upload
to
the
cnf
certification
repository
with
a
the
results
that
configuration
file,
some
documentation
about
how
to
reproduce
the
results
and
then
the
product
information
for
what
you're
actually
certifying,
and
this
will
be
what's
used
on
the
landing
page
and
in
the
landscape.
A
Framework
and
set
of
tests
that
can
be
utilized
for
checking
best
practices
in
a
lot
of
areas
like
security,
state
compatibility
and
solubility.
These
are
things
that
we've
heard
feedback
that
are
important
in
csps,
so
onboarding
cns
and
the
compatibility
and
solubility
upgradeability
configuration
does
tie
in
with
that,
as
well
as
your
lifecycle.
Management
with
cnf
security
is
a
big
thing
so
that
category
split
off
there.
This
allows
you
to
focus
in
if
you're
doing
development-
and
you
have
an
area
that
your
cnf
focuses
in
then
you
may
have
more
features
there.
A
We've
had
a
lot
of
contributors
to
the
test,
suite
happy
to
have
more,
if
you're
interested
in
whether
helping
with
beg
reports,
ideas
or
actually
implementing
and
contributing
new
tests.
We'd
love
to
see
that
and
if
you
want
to
get
started
with
the
test
suite
before
you
actually
try
the
certification,
whether
it's
early
for
you
in
the
cnf
creation
or
you're,
moving
over
two
kubernetes
already,
and
you
want
to
make
improvements.
A
Bring
this
back
to
the
front,
please
respond
and
add
your
feedback
for
the
telco
focus
market
survey.
So
cncf
has
that
and
if
you
want
to
help
with
adoption
of
the
certification
and
these
best
practices,
cncf
has
a
marketing
toolkit
around
the
certification
itself.
A
And
you
can
schedule
a
a
demo
if
you'd
like
you,
could
shoot
either
of
lucina
or
myself
an
email
or
scan
this
you'll
go
to,
I
believe
the
calendly,
and
we
can
talk
with
you
in
more
depth
about
the
certification
and
or
the
test
suite
all
right.
Any
questions.
A
A
Items
and
overall
helm,
especially
for
a
more
complex
cnf,
I
would
say,
is
recommended
and
definitely
easier
to
use
than
just
raw
manifest.
But
right
now
those
would
be
the
two
ways
and
I
don't
think
there's
any
essential
tests
that
are
helm.
That
would
if,
if
I'm
recalling
right,
but
I
do
believe
that
they're
at
the
normal
level,
so
that
might
affect
like
higher
levels
of
passing,
but
if
you
have
other,
if
you're
using
other
packaging
management
software
I'd
like
to
hear
about
that,
are
there
any
other
questions.
A
A
A
The
similarity
would
be
that
the
cnf
test
suite
is
a
framework
and
you
can
write
test.
It
actually
has
tests
included
whenever
you
download
it,
but
I
guess
similarly,
you
could
externalize
those
tests
and
it
actually
does
run
some
stuff
like
the
litmus
chaos
test.
So
it's
actually
wrapping
this,
so
that
would
be
similar
to
soniboy.
A
B
A
A
Sure
so
you
can
open
issues
on
the
web
page
would
be
one
other
place
and
amount.
We
have
the
mailing
list
that
github
you
can,
besides
the
slack.
A
B
So
for
general
support
well
only
for
reporting
problems.
B
A
So
I
I
mean,
wherever
you
want
to
get
started
on
something
like
that
general
support,
whether
that
cnf
certification
email,
if
you
put
something
in
slack,
then
there
will
be
someone
within
the
group
that
will
notice
it.
It
may
be
a
couple
of
days,
especially
if
it
was
over
the
weekend.
Someone
will
notice
it
and
probably
get
back
to
you
that
way.
A
If
you're
not
looking
at
cycle
light,
you
may
want
to
message
someone
on
the
response
with
an
email,
lucinas
drop,
a
calendly
which
you
know
would
be
another
way
to
connect
that
way.
But
once
you,
if
you
are
needing
some
general
support,
I
guess
to
going
the
contributor
calls-
would
probably
be
a
good
one
on
thursdays
to
get
started
and
if
you
need
more
of
one-on-one,
then
probably
do
that
after
you
know,
you
join
the
call,
we
talk
some
and
we
can
get
that
started.
Let
me
share
that
screen
again.
A
So,
if
cnf
test
suite
this
is
thursdays
at
14,
15
utc,
so
that
one's
kind
of
an
open
call.
A
And
we've
had
folks
different
and
doing
different
things,
including
like
contributing
new
tests
joining
those
calls
and
then
sometimes
messaging
on
slack
and
then
rejoining
the
calls.
And
then
we've
set
up
one-on-one
to
dig
through
and
debug
something
if
needed,
but
those
are
kind
of
as
needed
basis.
A
B
For
companies
like
us,
we
have
multiple
cnfs
same
company,
but
multiple
products,
because
the
multiple
business
units
are
these
separate
applications.
Do
we
need
to?
Is
it
I
don't
know
if
it's
there
are
fees
associated
with
that?
Can
you
clarify
how
it
works.
A
A
A
Certification
is
covering
a
single
product
for
cnf,
so
if
there's
more
than
one
cnf,
then
you'd
want
to
you.
You'll
want
to
certify
for
each
cnf
and
that'll,
be
the
once
you've
gone
through
like
there's
some
terms
and
conditions
and
a
participation
form.
So
once
you
get
through
all
of
that,
then
the
the
first
time
any
any
additional
cns.
So
if
you
said
you
did
it
for
one
that
was
ready
right
now,
and
then
you
had
another
cnf
that
you
want
to
certify.
A
Yeah,
so
they,
if
you're
a
cncf
member,
then
you're
covered
that
mem.
It's
a
cncf
membership
ties
in
with
utilization
of
the
cnf
badge,
seeing
a
certified
cnf
badging
and
any
type
of
logo
usage
with
cncf.
C
Well,
the
only
thing
that
I
was
thinking
is
about
the
nominations.
He
seems
like
the
only
one
who
has
been
proposed.
Him
is
jeffrey
right,
so
I
know
you
want
to
make
a
reminder.
A
Yeah
thanks
we
want
to
get
I
put
my
my
name
up
again
and
jeffrey's.
Is
there
there's
been
a
few
people
that
have
talked
with
me
in
slack
about
putting
their
name
into
the
list,
but
so
far
I
haven't
seen
anyone
else.
A
I
think
jeffrey
lost
access
for
like
a
month
before
he
could
finally
put
his
end,
but
yeah
we'd
we'd
like
to
get
someone
someone
else
or
multiple
people
if
names.