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From YouTube: CNCF CNF WG Meeting - 2023-03-20
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A
Right,
nothing.
You
know,
I've
just
shared
the
meeting
notes,
link.
A
Okay,
hopefully
you
can
all
see
so
yeah
first
item
to
note
is
that
the
events
on
the
17th,
the
calls
on
the
17th
and
the
24th
will
be
canceled
because
of
kubecon
and
recovering
from
that
also
worth
noting
that
for
those
of
us
who
have
a
clock,
Change
Savings
Time
change
next
week,
the
call
will
be
moving
back
in
our
attitudes
or,
more
usual
time,
foreign.
A
I
think
probably
we
we've
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time.
The
last
couple
weeks
going
through
the
events,
the
one
that
I
think
is
worth
spending
the
time
on
is
the
informal
birds
of
a
feather
session.
So
there
is
a
an
issue
in
GitHub
that
was
raised.
A
Excuse
me,
there's
also
discussions
forum
and
there's
also
a
form
which
people
can
fill
out
if
they
are
interested
in
attending
and
whether
they've
got
a
you
know,
an
item
for
discussion
or
not
I
haven't
seen
the
latest
numbers
but
I
understand.
There's
a
few
people
have
signed
up,
which
is
nice,
I,
don't
know
if
if
Taylor
would
have
seen
her
you've
got
an
up-to-date
view
of
how
many
people
have
signed
up
for
the
informal
session.
B
A
Yeah,
absolutely
okay,
so
I
don't
know
whether,
otherwise
you
will
tell
you
what
to
add
any
more
about
whether
there's
any
further
input.
You
want
to
help
organize
that,
with
just
a
case
of
sharing
the
form
and
the
details
of
it.
C
I
I
didn't
understand
the
question
other
than
the
form
the
organizing
part.
What
was
that.
C
Well,
I
do
think
we
should
organize
it.
I,
don't
know
if
the
organize
it
some
more
I,
don't
know
if
that
needs
to
happen.
On
this
call,
the
two
things
I
was
thanking
were
making
sure
that,
if
we're
going
to
have
something
like
a
birds
of
a
feather
that
we
have
that
we
can
start
putting
together
like
what
is
the
inning
topics
or
whatever
I
mean
normally,
what
my
experience
with
birds
and
feather
is
people
can
come
up
to
like
a
white
board
and
just
write
in
here's?
C
What
I
want
to
do
talk
about
for
five
minutes
or
two
minutes
or
whatever
short
short
talks,
but
if
we
have
material
together
that
people
say
they
want
to
talk
and
we
can
start
putting
it
then
that'll
I
think
get
other
people
ready.
So
what
do
we
want
to
do
for
anything
like
that?
And
then
the
other
part
is
the
working
session.
C
If
we're
going
to
have
things
that
we
actually
want
to
try
to
actively
work
together
on
while
we're
there
than
having
one
or
a
few,
you
know
two
or
three
I,
probably
wouldn't
choose
too
many,
but
things
that
we'd
like
to
work
on
and
maybe
have
that
together,
like,
for
instance,
the
best
practices
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we
should
say
any
best
practice
every
best
practice.
But
if
we
say
here's
a
few
that
we're
interested
in,
we
can
always
adjust
these
things
when
we're
there.
C
If
there's
a
overwhelming
motivation
to
do
something,
but
if
we
have
some
content
ready,
whether
that's
one
of
the
ones
that
have
already
been
put
forward
or
something
else,
then
if
we
have
content,
that's
you
know
20
or
50
percent
done
it's
better
than
zero.
In
my
mind,
if
we
want
to
work
on
the
glossary
terms,
then
picking
you
know
a
couple
of
terms
that
were
are
interested
in
and
starting
that
so
that
there's
actually
some
content.
C
People
are,
in
my
mind,
more
likely
to
contribute
if,
if
there's
something
there,
and
it
gives
them
an
idea,
so
I
would
say,
organizing
the
working
session
and
the
birds
of
a
feather
would
probably
be
it.
A
A
So
when
you
mentioned
the,
you
mentioned
the
glossary
and
there's
a
couple
of
couple
of
issues.
We've
been
already
relating
to
that.
A
I
mean
we
could
we
could
just
create
either
Google
Docs
or
a
discussion
item
in
GitHub.
That
starts
to
collect
the
glossary
items
that
we
want
to
Define.
C
As
far
as
today
or
just
work
before
we
get
there
as
promotion
and
just
a
general
preparation,
we
have
the
for
the
Gathering.
So.
B
C
The
form
I've
we
have
the
our
planning
dock
ourself,
which
is
more
for
internal
Google
Docs,
and,
in
fact,
if
is
this,
your
screen
Tom?
Yes,
okay,
can
you
bring
up?
That
document
might
be
easier,
just
look
at
what
we've
done
and
what's
left.
C
Google
Doc
the
planning
for
the
Gathering.
C
C
The
rest
was
content
to.
Let
us
know
what
we're
doing
draft
content,
I
guess
so.
We've
we
have
the
form
we've
shared
with
some
places.
So
if
there's
more
places,
we
would
like
to
share
what's
not
on
here,
but
we
should
probably
add
Lucina
I
think
you
were
you've
already
started
some
stuff
for
Twitter
and
we're
planning
on
continuing
that.
C
All
right
so
then
GitHub
we
have
a
discussion
forum.
Can
you
click
on
some
of
those
and
bring
them
up
Tom?
C
A
C
You
know
we
could
have
people
do
discussions
here
if
we
wanted.
We
have
a
the
issue
for
this,
so
there's
an
issue
for
the
event.
Has
anyone
added
anything
else
on
the
issue.
C
No,
no
and
Nikolai,
if
you
had
some
some
interest
in
doing
something
specific
in
the
event
or,
if
you
think
some
colleagues
might
be,
we.
B
A
So
so,
on
on
that
point,
Thomas
Graf
has
already
signed
up
by
the
form:
oh
okay,
but
based
on
a
just
one
of
one
of
the
isolating
colleagues
Joshua,
someone
whose
name
introduced
me
to
him
and
Liz
rice
and
suggested
they
come
along
if
they
can
sure.
Thank
you.
C
So
I
don't
know
where
we
all,
where
we'd
like
to
put
everything
I
was
trying
to
provide
some
different
places
until
we
decided
and
not
you
know,
hold
off
until
it's
a
week
till,
but
whether
I
think
whether
of
course
the
form
helps
us
gather
some
of
it
in
one
place,
but
then
publicizing.
So
we
can
add
stuff
into
this
issue
or
put
it
in
that
discussion
as
we're
going
forward.
I
think
we
could
we
need
somewhere.
That's
like
a
here's,
the
public
agenda
document,
so
you
know
that
can
be.
C
There's
there's
many
choices
there.
The
other
place
where
it's
published
is
in
GitHub
under
there's
a
new
events.
Folder
is
that
on
there?
Maybe
that's
not
that
didn't
get
added
to
the
Google
Doc
list.
A
C
Okay,
so
this
events,
folder,
is
new.
You
know
and
right
now,
there's
no
here's
a
sancia,
all
Telecom
top
level
I.
Guess
it
well,
it's
just
cncf
there's
not
like
a
cncf
Telco
and
at
one
point
we
put
some
stuff
under
the
Telecom,
User,
Group
and-
and
it
kind
of
seems
like
the
CNF
working
group-
is
that
place.
C
There's
there's
nothing
at
a
top
level,
though
so
Beyond
this
so
figured
for
now
putting
events
that
are
related
to
the
working
group-
and
you
know
maybe
the
certification
test
Suite
even
Telco
days
mentioned
here,
but
we
could
always
put
stuff
here,
but
in
any
case
this
is
it
for
the
community
Gathering
and
we
could
use
this,
as
here
is
the
this.
C
Actually
is
the
document
that
we
do
PR's
to
to
add
the
agenda
so,
of
course
having
the
location
designated
somewhere
or
everywhere
is
going
to
be
good,
but
as
we
put
together
stuff,
we
could
publish
it
here
and
then
point
people
like
what
is
the
easiest
to
Market.
So
if
lucina's
going
to
be
saying,
hey
here,
go
here,
come
to
the
event.
The
form
right
now
is
great.
C
C
We
can
of
course,
do
work
in
individual
places
where
we
have
stuff
like
the
glossary
right
now.
It's
just
an
issue
I
think,
but
some
of
the
best
practices
actually
have
Google
Docs.
So
we
can
just
work
on
the
drafts
for
this,
but
in
addition
we
have
you
know
how
do
we
do
live
notes
or
shared
notes
or
whatever
we
do
have
a
draft
ether
pad.
C
We
haven't
shared
it
yet
because
I
think
that
those
are
just
public
and
I'm
kind
of
afraid
that
we
may
end
up
seeing
like
a
bunch
of
spam
in
it.
If
we
just
post
it
a
link
to
it,
but
this
kind
of
gives
an
idea
of
what
I
was
thinking
and
I,
don't
know
Tom
and
Nikolai
and
Lucina
anybody
Akash.
If
y'all
have
some
thoughts
on
this,
then
we
can
adjust,
but
this
is
kind
of
how
I
was
saying
the
agenda
and
how
we're
going
forward
potentially
and.
C
I,
this
is
totally
just
more
of
a
draft
right
now
that
if
we
have
the
birds
of
a
feather
topics
and
and
then
working
session,
then
you
know
we
can
add
stuff
in
here.
Share
this
and
then
put
more.
A
A
Work
for
the
working
session
in
in
terms
of
capturing
what's
happening
on
the
day.
I
think
it
adds
as
good
as
anything
else
to
use
you.
C
A
A
C
C
A
C
A
C
Talking
about
the
potential
adding
a
new
kubernetes
object
that
had
the
information
about
declaring
you
know,
multiple
interfaces,
not
as
a
I
think
it
would
be
like
a
super
set
or
of
what
maltes
so
compatible
with
maltes
and
other
things,
but
yeah
more
generic,
the
whole
multi-network
group,
so
they
had
kind
of
they
had
some
specific
agenda
items.
C
A
A
It's
obviously
well,
certainly
where
you
buy
our
kubernetes
platform
from
a
vendor
and
whilst
cni
plugins
are
using
a
standardized
cni,
there
is
a
there
was
a
series
of
kind
of
validation
and
certification
steps
that
we
would
want
to
go
through
before
introducing
a
cni
that
isn't
kind
of
bundled
with
the
product
into
the
stack,
because
it's
another,
it's
another
thing
the
CNF
and
has
to
check.
You
know
that
their
application
works
with.
A
So
it's
more
about
just
a
I.
Don't
think
I've
already
got
an
opening
statement.
I,
you
know,
maybe
maybe
I
need
to
have
a
little
chat
with
with
the
US
learning
team
that
I've
been
talking
to
and
see
who's
going
to
come
and
kind
of
how
they
want
to
frame.
The
discussion
is
I,
I'm,
more
suggested
it
on
their
behalf,
rather
than
I.
Think
in
terms
of
the
ordering
I
wonder
whether
the
shorter
kind
of
lightning
talks
should
go
before
the
longer
discussion.
A
Set
items
just
so
we
don't
kind
of
potentially
run
out
of
time
for
them
to
happen.
C
All
right,
I
agree:
can
you
just
move
that
down
and
maybe
we
rename
it
to
call
it
open
discussion,
ideas
or
some
some.
A
C
A
I
can't
really
think
of
much
else
am
I
in
terms
of
the
logistics
of
location.
Is
that
being
dealt
with,
or
is
that
something
to
deal
with
still.
C
B
A
C
B
B
Yes
across
the
street?
Is
a
co-working
space,
slash
coffee
shop,
walkie-talkie
I
haven't
emailed
them
yet
to
see
what
their
meeting
room
capacity
is
right.
Now
we
have
12
responses
of
folks
who
are
interested
in
attending,
so
that
group,
the
group
of
that
size,
could
be
easy
to
accommodate
for
there's.
B
Also,
we
a
wework
that
that's
a
little
bit
longer
a
walk
away
and
there's
a
hotel
and
nap
and
how
Amsterdam
hotel
but
No
Vacancy
for
rooms
at
this
time,
as
it
was
an
official
you
come
venue
block,
but
we
may
be
able
to
use
the
conference
room
if
it's
not
already
built
at
that
time
and
then
the
bowling
alley
has
a
six
minute
walk.
I
know
there
is
going
to
be
a.
B
B
A
C
A
C
General
marketing
into
just
acute
conflicts,
I
mean
as
well
as
maybe
some
targeted
to
some
cncf
projects.
So
if
there's
any
that
are
interested,
Nicole
I,
don't
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
this
would
be
a
good
place
for
NSM
to
come
and
talk.
We
had
had
some
talking
to
Ed
and
stuff
in
the
past
the
thought
of
having
a
working
session
with
like
some
best
practices
and
some
use
cases
that
we're
interested
in
the
past.
C
C
C
Have
you
been
working
in
the
with
the
NSM
FX
Nikolai.
C
A
A
A
A
So
I
know
I
mean
I've
worked
with
Peter
before
and
Nathan
I
know
there
are
some
other
Vodafone
people
I
know
now
about
a
doubt.
Any
of
them
were
going
to
Amsterdam
right.
A
I
can
reach
out
to
Peter
and
or
maybe
we
email
the
mailing
list
or
something
I'll
reach
out
to
Peter
and
Nathan.
First
all
right.
They
can
share
it
within
the
community
if
they
think
it
makes
sense.
A
C
A
A
C
A
A
C
Doc
for
each
of
us
they're
related,
but
it
was
suggested
to
keep
them
separate,
yep
go
ahead
and
click
on
that
any
of
either
doesn't
matter
so
I
I
think
Victor
had
started
it
this
way
in
a
different
document,
so
I've
just
been
cloning
them
and
starting,
but
it's
just
the
markdown
copied
in
and
then
fill
in
the
sections.
C
And
of
course
you
got
to
do
a
little
bit
of
cleanup
when
you
copy
it
back,
but
you're
basically
doing
that
the
sections
and,
if
you
scroll
down,
so
that
any
in
black
is
kind
of
the
ready
the
red
is
here.
This
is
just
copied
over.
We
need
to
change
it,
so
these
have
no
motivation,
but
it
looks
like
the
the
static
external
resources
that
you
had
was
pretty
close.
It
seemed
like
it
had
a
lot
of
the
content.
A
C
C
That's
minimal
notes
added
some
more
notes.
C
B
C
It's
not
red,
so
there
was
something
said
about
the.
C
Side
and
I
think
it
might
be
in
the
liveness,
but
Victor
was
talking
about
the
different
attributes
that
you
can
use
for
these
checks
like
aliveness
and
Readiness,
where
the,
how
often
you
check
and
other
things,
and
that's
probably
something
that
we
need
to
ensure
it's
on
both
of
them
CPU
usage
as
a
result
of
yeah.
This
is
this.
Is
it
so
that
seems
like
it's
related
need
to
check,
which
ones
are
actually
the
same
in
them,
but
we're
going
to
have
some
related
content.
A
And
please,
okay,
so
perhaps
so,
hang
on
so
we've
got
a
meeting
next
week
and
then
there's
a
meeting
the
week
after
just
thinking
about
when
we
should
make
a
decision
about
which,
because
obviously
these
will
get
worked
on
over
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
we
should
we
could
then
make
a
decision
about
which
ones
we
take
to
the
working
session
based
on
you
know,
we've
just
got
furthest
or
which
has
more
to
go.
A
And
that's
just
got
me
thinking
actually
April
the
10th
I,
don't
know
what
it's
like
in
the
US,
but
that's
Easter
Monday
and
that's
a
public
holiday
in
the
UK,
so
I
will
be
around
I.
Don't
know
with
that.
Anyone
else
will
we.
A
B
C
C
So
we
could
do,
we
want
to
just
say
not,
will
cancel
the
10th.