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From YouTube: CNCF CNF WG Meeting - 2023-05-01
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B
I
have
watched
the
cubecon
Telecom
little
playlist.
There
are
quite
a
few
topics.
That's
discussed
in
that
not
discussed
in
this
meeting.
So
I
was
wondering
that
all
in
scope
for
in
this
meeting
or
that
there
are
a
lot
of
like
5G,
you
know
Edge
Computing
security.
All
those
topics,
that's
seems
to
be
not
part
of
this
meeting.
A
Yeah
I
mean
any
of
those
or
I
guess
available
to
discuss.
We
have
kind
of
a
primary,
maybe
goals
that
we're
trying
to
reach
all
of
it
would
be.
The
general
topic
is
exploring
Telecom
and
Cloud
native
and
then
being
able
to
pull
whatever
you
would
be
useful
out
of
that.
So
the
main
three
things
are
or
main
a
couple
of
things:
user
stories
and
and
use
cases
I
hope
it
kind
of
be
one
area
based
on
those
and
then
the
best
practices
around
that
just
digging
into
a
specific
area.
A
A
you
know
like
a
5G,
specific
topic
or
looking
at
a
project
digging
in
is
totally
relevant.
I
think
it
would
be
more
of
after
talking
about
it,
then
what
are
we
going
to
get
from
it
as
a
group?
And
how
are
we
going
to
use
that?
So,
for
instance,
nephio
has
been
a
topic
we've
looked
at
in
the
past
and
we're
interested
in
trying
to
highlight
and
pull
out
best
practices
for
the
onboarding
of
CNS.
So
those
are
I
would
call
this
deployment
cicd
and
life
cycle
management,
best
practices,
the
nephios.
A
Officially
focused
on
network
function
deployments
and
the
management,
it's
it's
really.
When
you
look
down
at
it,
it's
trying
to
take
best
practices
on
managing
applications
and
the
dependencies
that
are
running
on
kubernetes,
and
how
do
you
makes
that
easier
to
automate?
So
this
would
be
like
operations
teams
and
that
sort
of
thing
it's
not
really
specific
to
the
Telecom
and
networking
they're,
making
it
relevant
there
by
focusing
on
those
use
cases.
A
But
what
what
topics
did
you
have
in
mind.
B
Yeah,
it's
such
a
wide
topic-
maybe
maybe
you
can
start
with
like
if
we,
because
there's
so
many
videos,
I
just
basically
listen
to
them
on
like
just
walking.
Is
there
like?
If
we
summarize
from
all
this
talks,
is
there
any
like
major
Trend
theme
from
all
those
tags?
That's
what
current
status
in
Telecom
and
Cloud
natives.
B
What's
the
trend
and
technology
Trend
adoption
yeah,
it's
basically
another
way,
saying
I,
don't
know
what
I
ask.
Basically
it's
just
so
many
different
topics.
How
do
we
describe
what
has
been
going
on
in
that
series
of
talks.
B
For
example,
there
are
a
few
couple
of
5G
talks
which
have
them
some
new
projects
and
terminologies
have
never
heard
before.
Before
that
I
know
there
are
two
projects.
That's
been
going
along,
one
of
the
more
mature
the
links,
Foundation
magma
project
seems
to
be
a
kind
of
established
project.
Another
project,
which
is
my
understanding,
are
relatively
new,
but
it's
kind
of
more
automated
is
open.
Networking
foundations,
Athena
I,
think
it's
good.
If
I
pronounce
it
right
is
another
project.
B
So
those
are
what
I
know
when
it's
related
to
Telecom
private
5G,
but
a
5G
project.
That's
in
the
in
the
in
the
kubecon
session
is
something
yet
different,
so
yeah
just
curious.
What
is
what
is
the
actual
landscape?
What
other
options,
if
you,
if
a
company
want
to
implement
private
5G,
for
example,.
C
C
One
of
the
I
don't
know
this
happens,
it's
just
sort
of
like
how
can
can
we
say
it
like,
especially
for
magma,
is
that
magma
doesn't
follow
the
3gpp
Center
so.
C
Yeah,
that's
why
it's
pretty
hard
to
use
income
in
combination
with
a
I,
don't
know
with
nephew
or
other
bricks
like
Silva,
and
all
this
this,
these
other
ones.
Regarding
the
trends
that
you
mentioned,
I
think
it
is
it's
pretty
hard
to
summarize,
because
it
has
been
happened
in
many
different
areas.
C
D
C
Is
kind
of
the
the
latest
one,
but
the
other
pretty
interesting
project
is
Silva,
which
is
kind
of
also
a
new
way
to
to
try
to
probably
summarize
the
the
infrastructure
or
something
like
that.
So.
D
C
C
Yeah,
it's
pretty
hard
to
to
just
like
try
to
to
say
like
this
is.
This
is
the
right
way
to
do
things
like
just
just
picking
one
single
technology
is.
B
Yeah
I
think
the
problem
for
me
is
I'm
still
relatively
I'm,
just
learning
the
landscape
so
not
only
hard
to
decide
which
is
the
right
option,
but
not
even
even
know.
What
is
the
option
like
what
options
are
out
there
and
what
they
are?
That's
the
part
that's
difficult
for
me
to
to
be
creatively.
B
So
it's
I
think
that's
up
to
the
each
individual
organization
to
decide
which
stand
under
to
adopt,
but
it'll
be
great
to
have
a
little
list
of
choices
on
what
they
are.
That
will
kind
of
landscape
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful.
C
So
so
I
don't
know.
If
you
have
checked
the
the
list
or
like
the
the
documentation
provided
by
animate
also
has
been
done,
a
great
job
put
in
a
reference
architecture,
especially
for
the
infrastructure
like
them.
Just
in
this
particular
area.
They
have
provided
a
very
useful
information
how
to
Define
your
infrastructure.
C
No,
it
was
not
presented
anything
during
the
keep
con,
but
yeah
I'm
definitely
include
some.
B
Information
there
yeah
it's
just
anything:
it's
a
telecom
is
so
rest
just
different
choices.
It
would
be
great
if
there's
at
least
some
effort
to
list
some
list
of
choices
on
what
they
are.
As
I
mentioned,
I
I
really
don't
know,
magma
doesn't
meet
the
s3gpp
I
thought
is,
according
to
the
description
at
least
I
thought
it's
a
middle
of
the
4G
5G
standard.
Therefore,
a
well-made
3gpp
standard
as
well.
A
So
a
lot
of
these
are
I,
don't
like
Annika
Silva.
Those
are
all
larger.
It's
Phil's
a
project
becomes
ambiguous,
saying
that
word
but
they're
larger
efforts
that
pull
in
lots
of
different
Technologies
and
and
sub
projects.
A
Nephio
also
is
pulling
in
sub
Project
work
like
they're
doing
stuff
with
operator
framework
and
and
other
things.
So
then
you
could
say
we're
going
to
use
Nephi
over.
You
could
say:
oh
here's,
what
an
fio
is
using,
let's
just
go
and
take
those
pieces
and
we're
going
to
build
them
out
ourselves.
B
So
so
yeah
I
in
the
in
the
talks
in
Cube.
That's
where
I
got
the
the
terminology,
it's
like
silver
and
what
the
other
one
and
and
then
yeah,
then
nephio
I
forgot
whether
it's
part
of
the
talk
are,
they
Freedom
professional
will
be.
Are
they
equivalent
to
magma
equivalent
to
an
F
or
if
the
ether
and
or
they're
overlapping
or
are
they,
which
one
is
that
included
in
which
one
I
think
that
would
be
all
useful
information.
A
I
wouldn't
say
they're
the
same,
so
magma
is
the
four
whatever
you're
gonna
I.
Don't
think
it
depends
on
what
the
name
would
be,
but
if
you
could,
if
you
maybe
say
the
5G
core
pieces,
how
do
we
build
those
and
part
of
them
are
following
three
gpp
and
part
of
them
are
doing
instead
of
using
protocols
from
3gpp
they're
doing
other
protocols
that
they
think
are
going
to
have
advantages.
But
it's
trying
to
build
that
core
and
nephio
is
trying
to
build
tools
that
help
with
the
deployment
of
Network
functions.
A
Even
the
Silva
actually
includes
Annika
as
a
at
least
the
reference,
and
maybe
the
testing
as
a
sub
Pace,
but
those
are
more
focused
on
building
out
here's
a
entire
platform
to
run
here.
Here's
how
you
can
build
out
your
platform,
that's
based
on
kubernetes
and
how
you
could
run
workloads,
so
those
are
taking
in
a
lot
more
than
nephio,
which
is
just
the
the
portion
that
says.
Okay,
you
have
an
environment,
let
me
Target
it
and
do
deployments
there,
and
then
you
have
projects
that
would
be
sub
pieces
of
all
of
that.
A
A
Environment
Target
for
specifically
for
Telecom
workloads.
This
then
based
on
the
patterns
and
the
get
Ops
type
of
deployment
management
patterns
and
that
uses
sub
projects
that
you
also
see
in
these
others
like
the
stuff
that
you
make.
If
you
go,
look
at
aniket
or
Silva
or
even
nephio.
Well,
there's
going
to
be
an
overlap
on
some
of
those
like
there's
some
stuff
from
ebps
and
the
chef.
A
If
you're
seeing
a
sub
project
show
up
again
and
again,
it's
probably
a
good
indication
that
there's
more
agreement
in
the
Community,
both
Cloud
native
and
networking,
slash
Telecom,
that
those
projects
are
they're
finding
them
to
have
enough
value
and
use
right
now
for
implementations
and
I.
Probably,
if
you
know,
if
you're
looking
at
implementing
versus
just
using
something
off
the
shelf,
that
includes
all
of
it,
the
knowing
why
they
have
those
there
is
a
good
idea,
because
I
do
see
things
that
have
changed
over
the
last.
B
Yeah,
thank
you
Taylor.
What?
What
do
you
have
to
describe?
Well,
first
of
all,
is
there
actually
a
recording
for
this
call.
I
cannot
find
it
on
YouTube,
because
what
you
just
described
in
the
last
few
minutes,
I
just
is
just
overwhelming
information
for
me
so
but
very
helpful
if
it's
putting
the
at
least
in
the
the
meeting
notes,
and
that
will
at
least
give
me
a
place
to
start
to
look
for
and
compare
that
different
project.
You
just
mentioned.
A
A
Sometimes
there
may
be
one
missing,
but
we
can
request
that
those
get
uploaded
as
well.
Thanks,
Lucina
she's,
just
posted
into
the
chat,
the
link
to
the
playlist
on
YouTube.
B
That's
a
good
starting
point:
yeah
I
think
it'd
be
great
if
it,
the
discussion
like
for
in
on
the
same
thread
and
just
get
a
more
understanding
of
you,
know,
different
choices
and
how
it
relates
us
to
basically
like
the
next
cup
will
be
able
to
follow
why
those
books
are
talking
in.
D
B
C
Usually,
for
example,
an
fio
it's
almost
one
year
older,
like
I,
mean
compared
with
other
projects.
This
is
very
junk
project,
so
there
is
a
lot
of
expectation.
C
There's
a
lot
of
people
like
wants
to
to
use
it
because
has
been
facing
for
similar
issues,
but
also
that
means
that
there
is
a
lot
of
opposition,
especially
to
to
implement
it
or
try
to,
especially
in
in
brownfields
like
someone
who
has
been
using
X
and
Y
Technologies,
try
to
implement
or
like
try
to
replace
all
the
existing
Solutions
with
a
new
promise
or
a
new
technology.
It
could
be
hard
to
to
to
to
try
it
like
I.
C
Don't
I,
don't
know
what
is
what
is
your
situation
in
this
case,
if
you
have
like
a
some
Brownfield
or
Legacy
deployment,
but
if
you
are
trying
to
collect
something
from
a
scratch
like
a
new
Green
Field
deployment?
D
B
I
want
just
more
of
a
just
a
really
pure
interest
in
understanding
the
the
landscape
and
and
Technology,
because
I'm
I'm,
a
database
guy
and
just
interested
in
networking
and
and
and
Telecom
being
really
The
Cutting
Edge
in
a
way
in
a
in
a
telecom,
networking
Revolution
right
now,
yeah
so
I
just
like
to
understand.
What's
what
is
going
on
in
this
world?
That's
basically
been
driving,
and
it's
just
so
confusing.
Sometimes.
C
Okay,
yeah
yeah,
even
in
that
case
like
also
it's
pretty
hard
for
for
for
telecoms.
If
you
talk
about
the
the
to
say
to
have
a
status,
CMS
or
applications,
it's
pretty
hard
for
for
telecoms
to
to
achieve
that
particular
goal.
Like
that
I
didn't
know.
We
have
this
discussed
before
right.
They
learn
like
about
the
trying
to
achieve
a
stainless
CNF
scene
in
the
group
or
I
I.
Remember.
A
D
C
Yeah
definitely
definitely
I
just
describe
Victor.
There
is
a
lot
of
transformation
in
this
particular
industry,
which
is
very
quite
interesting
to
to
take
a
look,
a
closer
look.
B
C
Okay,
Taylor's
shoe
I
I
would
like
to
bring
a
particular
topic
that
I
was
thinking
especially
last
week
when
I
was
working
with
nephew.
C
The
thing
is
like
in
in,
in
prefer
I
mean
Napier
is
using
v5gc
as
a
as
a
as
an
example.
How
can
they
use
all
these
operators
and
Technologies
one
of
the
the
requirements
that
v5g
has
for
doing
deployments?
Then
they
require
a
specific
all.
The
working
nodes
has
to
have
that
particular
calendar
model
brings
a
leather
like
we
or
have
it
before,
and
even
pre5
DC
installation.
C
So
the
biggest
the
biggest
question
is
how
like
what
is
the
cloud
native
way
to
to
to
to
have
that
kernel:
module
bringing
solid
like
I.
C
There
are
a
couple
ways
to
achieve
that,
so
the
first
one
could
be
like.
Maybe
bouquet
so
brings
all
the
the
or
create
your
OS
image
or
the
working
nodes
with
all
those
cabinets
modules
bring
solid
and
loaded.
So
in
that
way,
when
you
bring
up
your
cluster,
it
is
in
compliance,
so
this
is
I,
guess
the
optimal
way,
but
I
don't
know.
That's
that's
a
the
cloud
native
way
to
to
achieve
that.
C
The
second
one
is
using
configuration
tools
like
ones
that
you
have
installed
your
cluster,
like
your
kubernetes
cluster,
you
create
answerable
or
Chef
or
whatever
configuration
tool
that
you
use
and
manage
the
installation
of
your
kernel
modules,
but
the
the
third
one,
which
is
also
quite
interesting,
is
well
probably
yeah
through
one
is,
is
using
like,
like
the
kubernetes
Zeman
set
and
try
to
load
your
kernel,
module,
which
are
obviously
privilege
container
amount
in
that
way.
C
I
know
that
there
is
a
four
option,
which
is
also
probably
using
like
a
like
a
red
hat
Solutions
at
you
know
they
have
like
something
called
it's
kind
of
a
plugin
like
I.
Remember
exactly
a
name
is
maybe
kubernetes
kernel
model
or
something
like
that,
which
is.
C
Keystrom
custom
resource
definition
or
like
using
more
genetic,
we
do
load
camera
modules,
but
I
would
like
to
to
discuss
a
little
bit
that
that
option
like
like
using
your
own
methods,
like
like
using
demon,
set
with
combination
of
a
costume
privilege
container
when
contains
the
the
current
module.
C
So
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
know
what
do
you
think,
like
you
think
that.
A
He's
not
think
of
ways
that
you
would
do
it
in
a
cloud
native
way,
but
that's
just
off
the
top
of
my
head,
how
you
would
kind
of
model
it
using
different
tools.
It
seems
like,
let's
see,
there's
going
to
be
modules
that
are
going
to
be
common
to
have
on
deployments
and
looking
at
some
of
the
kubernetes
production
deployment
tools
for
bootstrapping
clusters
and
then
setting
up
a
production
environment.
A
We
may
see
something
there,
some
of
them
May
be
less
Cloud
native
and
just
here's
how
to
bootstrap
and
not
worrying
about
normal
system
deployment
versus
making
it
like
ongoing,
where
you
can
swap
in
and
out
or
whatever
else
you're
thinking.
But
we
could
look
into
some
of
those.
C
The
the
driver
container,
so
that
requires
a
privilege
container
so,
which
is
something
that
we
have
encouraged,
not
to
use
it,
especially
in
terms
like
a
security
vulnerability
and
all
these
things
so,
but
definitely
definitely
is
like
a
possible
scenario
like
one
of
the
major
arguments
is
like,
especially
in
the
public
clouds,
where
you
don't
have
control
where
you
you
work
notes.
So
it
seems,
like
that's.
C
The
preference
for
from
mayor
of
the
people
like
try
to
to
use
the
moon's
head
to
to
provision
some
course
requirement
or
like
yeah
host
requirements
instead
of
like
when
you
have
like
a
a
private
Cloud,
where
you
have
full
control
over
your
worker
nodes,
and
you
can
like
be
cake,
some
OS
images
and
using
and
the
boy
like
a.
D
C
A
Attributes
you
want
on
those,
so
then
you
can
use
at
the
work.
The
workload
itself,
I
think
is
pretty
good.
As
far
as
using
practices
like
affinities
and
taints
to
have
your
applications
go
to
the
right
worker
node
and
then
it
would
be.
Does
the
worker
node
have
the
right
set
of
host
capabilities
and
everything
else?
D
A
You
know
two
two
or
three
years
ago
there
was
wasn't
as
much
support
for
some
of
the
stuff
that
was
considered
bootstrapping
new
host
and
bringing
them
in
a
new
node.
That
support
is
pretty
strong.
Now
it's
been
there
for
a
lot
of
the
cloud
providers
getting
new
node
shredding,
but
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
on
bare
metal
and
I
believe
that
there's
work
around
that
for
Alexa,
Edge
type
of
use
cases
with
cluster
API
and
related
projects.
A
The
subproject
cubeadm
would
be
one
of
them,
but
there's
other
projects
that
are
related
to
that.
So
that
would
probably
be
where
to
look
into
when
we're
talking
about.
How
do
you
get
custom,
kernel
modules
and
other
capabilities
enabled
on
the
host?
A
C
The
age
cluster,
like
the
the
original
clusters,
so
yeah
I,
have
investigation
in
that
use
case
and
yeah
that
this
cluster
API
provide
us
the
level
of
extra
attraction
and
also
the
it
follows
the
what
is
the
the
name,
the
grm
model,
like
they're,
looking
for
so
yeah?
So
so
it's
going
to
be
quite
interesting
once
that
you
have
the
cluster
Pro
provisioning
by
cluster
API.
Is
there
a
way
to
hook
any
post
provision
methods
or
things
like
those
special
use
cases
like
Urban
modules
or
any
additional
plugins.
A
I
think
the
ideas,
at
least
whenever
I
was
looking
at
it
more
a
couple
of
years
ago,
more
heavily
when
we
were
doing
the
CNF
test
bed
specifically
and
looking
at
what
were
the
capabilities
of
cluster
API
to
allow
expanding
and
adding
to
a
cluster
all
the
way
down
to
configuring
like
how
do
you?
How
do
you
bring
in
and
configure
a
a
network
switch
to
add,
maybe
a
whole
set
of
new
host
servers
and
connect
them
in
and
and
have
those
type
of
connections
and
potentially
different
networks
and
everything
else?
A
So
how
do
you
provision
those
sort
of
things
but
doing
it
in
a
cloud
native
way?
So
those
are
like
bigger
goals
and
longer
topics
than
some
of
the
earlier
ones
with
bringing
in
nodes
on
systems
like
back
Cloud
providers
where
you
already
have
apis,
but
those
were
there
and
and
I
know
that
some
of
the
provisioning
was
already
happening
for
bare
metal
with,
like
the
a
few
of
the.
A
Tinkerbell
yeah
Tinker
Bell
and
everything
else
from
equinix,
but
it's
it's
that
sort
of
thing.
When
you
get
it
far
enough
and
it's
able
to
handle
it,
then
the
ideas
leveraging
an
API
for
being
able
to
say,
hey,
go
and
do
these
sort
of
things
and
now
you
could
have
Damon
sets
that
actually
are
communicating
with
an
API.
That's
doing
well,
it's
basically
cluster
API,
but
not
thinking
of
just
the
the
tooling
around
it.
A
Shouldn't
have
direct
access
to
Cluster
API,
but
they
should
be
saying:
Hey
I
want
this
type
of
capability.
Can
you
give
it
to
me
and
the
cluster
says?
Oh
I,
don't
have
any
of
those
working
ads
right
now,
but
we
see
them
in
our
inventory
list
or
let
me
go,
ask
the
hardware
would
be
the
other
thing.
So,
when
you're
looking
at
something
like
an
easier
one,
would
be
a
cloud
provider
AWS
or
Azure
or
whatever,
and
then
you
can
literally
go
say.
We
need
a
machine
that
has
this
type
of
hardware
provision,
it.
A
Okay,
add
it.
Now
we
have
a
set
of
working
ads
with
that
type,
and
now
we
can
actually
go
back
and
tell
the
application.
Okay,
we're
ready
or
we're
going
to
schedule.
You
on
these
automatically
and
I
think
that
that
sort
of
automatic
provisioning
of
new
notes
that
have
the
capabilities
would
be
the
same
sort
of
thing.
That
you'd
want
to
do
with
provisioning
of
nodes
and
putting
kernel
modules
on.
C
So
when
you
are
requesting
a
particular
CNF
which
doesn't
meet
the
existing
requirements
and
that's
that's
the
connection
that
we
are
trying
to
do
with
the
in
this
case
with
cluster
API,
requesting
the
infrastructure
and
ones
that
this
particular
requirement
has
been
made.
So
we
can
provision
the
rest
of
this
yeah.
Then
dnfs,
like
a
I,
mean
whatever.
D
B
Foreign
Tinkerbell,
that's
another
area,
that's
interesting,
because
Tinkerbell
is
basically
came
from
the
sponsor
by
equinex,
so
he
which
has
a
pretty
big
player
in
the
in
the
in
Data
Center
business.
But
there
are
several
other
options:
I'm
not
sure
there
are.
Actually
there
are
several
other
data
center
players.
They
don't
seem
to
have
the
same
Hardware
provisioning
solution,
but
there
are
things
like
cluster
bare
metal
cluster
from
the
smaller
open,
stack,
I,
guess
and
also
some
other
several
other.
B
However
provisioning,
so
is
there
any
talk
on
like
not
Target,
just
I
guess,
understanding
of
us
what
is
optional
other
than,
of
course,
what
public
cloud
provider
provide
just
from
bare
metal
perspective?
It
doesn't
think
about
anything
else,
that's
being
used
by
the
Telecom
or
by
the
private
5G
Market.
B
Yeah
Metals
three
is
the
I
think
this
is
a
former
open
stack,
but
I've
got
the
name
yeah.
A
A
B
Adding
it
the
I,
don't
know
what
organization
in
the
industry
do,
for
example,
for
devops
Google
would
do
a
lot
of
survey.
You
know
what
is
being
used
what's
best
practice
in
lesson.
Learned
I,
don't
know
for
catacombly
you're
any
people
doing
that
for
Telecom.
C
Yeah
they're
in
during
the
switch
they're
doing
the
Cloud
native
they
swisscom
was
like
doing
a
presentation
which
I
really
I
was
a
little
bit
surprised.
They
were
sharing
all
the
Technologies
and
a
little
bit
about
the
the
decisions
that
they
make
to
to
have
in
their
own
infrastructure.
It
seems
like
they
are
like
not
using
a
particular
technology,
but
basically
what
I,
what
I,
what
I
saw?
They
were
like
using
Jenkins
with
ansible
and
building
something
in-house,
so
probably
I'm.
C
Just
guessing
most
of
the
codes
are
like
they
have
career
like
their
own
tools
for
Corporation
in
that
that
that
infrastructure,
so
it
I,
I
I,
couldn't
say
like
there
is
a
predominant
technology
or
like
like
a
a
good
win
a
winner
in
that
particular
area.
Probably
some
of
them
are
just
using
portion
of
the
tools
or
like
creating
something
in-house.
A
They're
behind
are
promoting
get
Ops
patterns,
I
mean
the
I.
Think
that
there's
a
whole
group
that
there's
projects
and
stuff
on
there
and
get
ups
but
get
Ops
is
older
than
kubernetes.
As
far
as
the
patterns
they're
from
devops
earlier
devops
days,
but
there's
different
companies
that
are
adopting
a
lot
of
those
patterns
and
Deutsche
Telecom
would
be
they
have
some
open
source
projects
out
there.
So
that's
somewhere
to
look
Orange,
they
have
a
whole
open
source
labs
and
they
have
a
lot
of
different
projects.
A
I,
don't
remember
what
they
said
specifically
about
their
platform
and
I
know.
There
was
various
talks
that
mentioned,
but
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
there's
something
equivalent
to
like
dos
Chef,
which
is
trying
to
build
a
cloud
platform
that
it
is
literally
being
used
by
understanding
for
running
some
workloads
that
those
should
talk
on
and
orange
has
something
I
don't
know
if
they
have
like
here's,
a
larger
umbrella
project,
which
you
can
kind
of.
A
Look
at
Dash
Chef
like
that
and
there's
a
bunch
of
sub
pieces
like
their
operator
related
project
and
several
others
for
dust
chef.
So
you
can
look
at
that
one
and
break
it
out.
I'm
sure
that
orange
has
something
based
on
what
their
talks
have
been
and
discussions
I,
don't
know
if
there's
something
that
that's
listed
out
there
publicly
right
now,
but
that
could
be
something
we
could
look
at.
Azure
for
operators
is
heavily
influenced
by
a
t
work
that
was
happening
a
few
years
ago.
A
They
were
building
out
a
kubernetes
based
platform
and
it
was
like
a
a
V2
or
V3
of
a
a
platform
that
was
openstack
based
in
the
past
and
it
was
a
mix,
a
hybrid
and
then
a
lot
of
those
core
people
that
were
on
those
projects,
went
to
Azure
and
that
specifically
our
Microsoft
and
the
Azure
for
operators
team.
A
This
would
be
the
a
couple
of
them.
Let
me
see
swisscom,
we
we
had
some
a
lot
of
swisscom
people
at
the
cloud
native
Toko
day
and
the
community
Gathering
and
I
know
that
they're
doing
stuff.
They
had
a
whole
open
source
lab
before
that
went
away,
but
they
have
a
new
open
source,
Telecom
area,
but
I'm
not
sure
like
what
what
has
been
made
publicly
available
projects.
They
had
a
I
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
git
lab
or
what
it
was
before.
A
But
a
lot
of
that
that
was
available
to
look
at
the
orange
stuff.
You
can
go
through
I.
Just
don't
know
how
organized
from
what
I've
seen
it's
kind
of
what
projects
are
available.
They
have
the
and
I
put
a
link
into
the
and
be
into
sr6
another
routing
related
stuff
that
Warren
Schmick's
available.
You
can
go
look
at
those
and
they
contribute.
A
Maybe
another
area
would
just
be
looking
at
who's
involved,
with
the
different
directly
putting
some
people
over
on
some
of
the
other
projects.
There's
a
lot
of
the
csps
are
have
a
lot
of
involvement
and
Silva
and
nepheo
I'm,
saying
somebody
from
different
service
providers
there
and
then
in
the
kubernetes
side
like
seeing
who's
actually
attending
Sig
or
the
I
can't
remember,
I
always
get
confused.
A
If
it's
a
working
group
or
a
cig
I
think
it's
a
working
group,
The
multi-network
working
group
multi,
so
that
encompasses
it's
going
to
be
a
a
higher
level
from
what
cnis
that
includes
cni
it's
from
what
I
saw
in
the
past.
It
was
a
lot
more
activity
from
vendors
that
were
involved,
but
there
were
a
few
people
from
service
providers,
but
that
would
give
kind
of
an
indication
of
where
those
service
providers,
at
least
a
portion
of
them,
are
putting
some
efforts.
And
then
you
look
back
and
and
see
where
they
are.
A
And
then
you
know
the
Dos
Chef
included
ebpf
and
get
Ops,
but
also
saw
some
some
interest
in
like
cluster
API
and
for
more
to
extend
the
provisioning
capabilities.
D
A
We
never
really
got
to
a
working
session
with
all
the
other
activities
of
the
community
Gathering,
but
it
was
pretty
successful.
Maybe
we
can
look
over
some
of
the
things
that
were
talked
about
and
either
continue
with
the
current
drafts
or
dig
in
some
of
the
other
topics.
C
By
the
way,
next
week
there
will
be
the
they
will
open
source,
Summit,
Maguire
and.
C
B
For
those
presented
at
all
kubecon
Telecom
area,
is
it
possible
for
some
of
them
to
present
here
as
well
just
to
follow
up
or
any
anything
new
update.
A
Sure
and
look
into
that
maybe
reach
out.
If
you
have
any
contacts,
anybody
Victor,
then
or
Victor,
if
referral,
if
you
had
any
ideas
or
specific
ones,
that
you're
interested
in
then
feel
free
to
either
reach
out
or
at
least
drop
a
note
in
to
the
working
document
with
happy
to
reach
out
to
some
of
myself
and
see
if
someone's
interested
it
I
think
other
than
just
coming
and
talking
here.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
a
a
goal
with
some
of
it.
A
Like
the
nepheo
Victor
M,
we
had
talked
about
highlighting
and
looking
at
those
best
practices.
So
then,
if
we're
coming
and
talking
in
fio,
we
could
say
hey
what
are
some
best
practices
that
y'all
recommend
for
deployments
and
then
it
focuses
on
those
best
practices,
ideally,
rather
than
just
a
technology
overview.
A
Overview
of
projects
or
whatever,
then
we
probably
should
promote
that
which
we
can
do
on
some
of
the
places
like
there's
a
a
couple
of
Twitter
accounts
for
the
cncf
Telecom
related
stuff.
So
we
can
promote
hey.
This
group
is
going
to
come
talk
on
this
date
and
then
maybe
we
get
a
larger
number
of
people
that
are
coming.
A
Can
talk
with
the
other
co-chairs
and
figure
something
out,
but
that
sounds
like
a
a
good
idea
to
have
some
of
them
come
in
as
long
as
we
have
have
it
promoted
and
then
I
would
like
to
have
like.
Where
are
we
going
from
there?
Not
just
a
it's?
It's
not
just
a
one
hour
of
one
project,
but
maybe
breaking
it
up,
have
a
couple
of
projects
and
then
a
follow-up,
or
how
does
this
benefit?
The
community.