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A
What
was
that?
Did
you
say?
How
was
that
yeah?
How
was
it
yeah
it
was?
It
was
all
right.
Tom
brought
forward
a
project,
that's
getting
going
and
it
was
that
open,
telco
api
or
it
was
a
very
generic
name,
but
now
they
have
a
specific
name
kamara,
I'm
not
sure
how
to
pronounce
it.
But
okay,
it's
no
code.
A
It's
just
documentation
right
now,
but
they
do
have
a
github
project
where
they're
putting
some
stuff.
A
A
E
A
All
right:
well,
let's
take
a
look
at
I
mean
I
can
go
through
the
events,
but
I
think
well,
maybe
maybe
there
are
a
few
people
that
knew
things.
So,
let's
see
cube
kind
of
you
see
if
these
are
closed,
probably
the
newest
thing
and
make
sure
everyone
knows
about
us.
A
A
new
co-located
event
at
kubecon,
called
cloud
native
telco
day
and
cfps
are
open
sponsorship
spots
are
open
so
trying
to
get
people
to
submit
sessions
and
sponsor,
if
possible,
and
ideally
bring
in
more
people
from
both
the
kubecon
cloud
native
side
and
telecom
aside
to
talk
and
start
working
together
by
having
that
event
right
there
and
then
a
dedicated
versus
the
ad
hoc
that
we've
done
in
the
past
open
source
summit.
A
A
A
A
A
Ian
I
haven't
seen
he's
he
was
supposed
to
be
on
the
call
today
and
I'll
have
to
follow
up
with
him.
But
let's
see
seven
days
ago
looks
like
funkai's
made
a
lot
of
small
edits.
A
C
A
Yeah
I
mean
it
looks
like
not
a
the
grammar
looks
correct
to
me.
A
A
Like
maybe
he
thought
it
was
going
to
be
users,
auditors
and
other
users.
I
don't
know
or
a
specific
choice
versus
saying
and
so
on
and
similar
compliance
must
use
for
when
users,
auditors
and
so
on
can
identify
users,
auditors
and
interested
parties
how's.
That.
C
D
So
one
new
trend,
we're
starting
to
see
in
compliance,
is
what's
being
referred
to
as
continuous
compliance,
and
so
one
of
the
one
of
the
frameworks
that's
coming
around
to
help
with
that
from
nist
is
called
auscal
os
cil
and
the
basic
idea
is
that
you
specify
a
set
of
you
define
a
set
of
catalogs
using
the
ascal
control
language,
which
is
basically
like
here's,
how
you
do
it
in
xml
or
json
or
or
similar,
and
what
happens
is
those
those
particular
things
become
something
that
are
well
defined,
with
very
well-defined
variables
and
for
some
of
the
controls
you
can
pull
information
directly
out
of
the
infrastructure
or
directly
from
the
application
itself,
so
that
the
application
itself
is
constantly
reporting
or
the
infrastructure
is
constantly
reporting
information
about
its
compliance,
so
that
when
you
generate
these
reports,
it's
no
longer
people
taking
screenshots
of
dashboards,
it
becomes.
D
D
It
is
possible
that
puppet
and
chef
or
terraform
or
similar
could
play
a
part
in
that.
It's
also
another
another
spot.
For
some
of
this
to
be
some
of
the
mutating
axe
controllers
or
you
might
have
a
a
spire
base,
the
tester
or
determining
whether
you
want
to
give
something
a
identity
or
not.
So
there
are
cloud
native
ways
to
integrate
with
some
of
these
as
well
that
I
expect
to
to
eventually
show
up
over
time.
D
The
oscar
framework
is
still
very
new,
so
we're
not
seeing
production
deployments
of
it
just
yet,
but
there
is
a
lot
of
interest
in
energy
there
and
there
will
be
in
the
near
future
it's
pending
to
be
scheduled,
but
there
will
be
something
in
the
cncf
tag:
security
on
onascale,
that's
going
to
be
presented.
So
when
that's
presented,
that
would
be
something
I
would
recommend
joining
in
and
watching
on.
A
All
right,
if
can
you
add
some
links
to
the
relevant
stuff
about
that
into
the
next
place?
Sure
I
can
do
that.
A
Does
this
make
it
a
little
bit
more
clear
what
ponchai
was
maybe
reading
misunderstanding
instead
of
and
so
on?
We
say
and
other
interest
parties.
F
A
I'm
going
to
let
ian
respond
to
this
on
what
level
of
compliance
just
to
comment
should
find
out
why
complaints
aren't
possible,
be
changed
so
why
compliance
is
limited
to
only
a
certain
level.
Okay
in
their
tests
like
problem,
they
can
see
that
this
is
intentional
and
they
can
find
out
why
compliance
is
not
possible.
A
This
is
semantics
and
mainly
trying
to
possibly
be
nicer
with
the
words
and
what
ian
was
intending
was
why
compliance
is
not
possible
on
a
specific
best
practice
and
you're,
either
compliant
or
you're.
Not,
you
may
be
close
or
you
may
be
very
far
away,
but
you're
either
compliant
or
not,
and
that
was
the
point.
So
I'm
not
gonna
address
changing
it.
F
Well,
yeah,
but
network
function.
Virtualization
is
not
a
thing.
You
can't
talk,
you
can
say
and
a
vnf,
you
can't
say
a
and
nfv.
A
Okay,
that
makes
sense
to
me
what
about
the
comma
or
or
no
comma.
F
Grammar
book
you're,
looking
at
it's
an
oxford
comma,
so
it's
optional.
C
Yeah
I
didn't
respond.
I
I
just
didn't
really
fully
understand
the
the
relevance
of
nfv
in
this
best
practices.
C
Document
I
mean
this,
I
know
this
is
you
know,
describing
sort
of
state
status
compliance.
I
just
didn't
really
understand
and
I
I
still
don't
to
be
honest
with
you.
A
Let
me
back
up
what
anne's
tried
to
say
in
the
past,
but
it's
difficult.
We
may
need
to
remove
it.
Anyways
there's
the
concept
which
poncho
is
saying
this
idea
of
virtual
environments
versus
physical
machines
that
are
being
used,
and
that's
really
what
this
is
about.
A
networking
platform
slash,
you
know,
applications
all
the
different
pieces
that
come
together
to
build
a
solution
and
it
happens
to
be
primarily
or
entirely
in.
I
hate
the
word
virtual.
F
If
we're
saying
nfv
is
the
right
phrase,
as
opposed
to
vnf
here
then
fine,
but
another
question
is
whether
or
not
you
need
to
use
the
phrase
nfp
here
at
all
when
all
it's
talking
about
is
compliance
recording
a
strange
point
to
get
hung
up
on
and
take
five
minutes
of
meeting
over,
though
I
will
go
and
have
a
look
at
that.
You
know.
A
F
A
A
F
A
A
F
A
F
More
grammar:
well,
no,
that's
a
change
in
wording,
changing
meaning
but
yeah.
Fine.
F
A
A
Sounds
good,
so
that
was
it
for
that.
One.
A
I
cannot
click
on
conversations
for
some
reason,
but
you
can
go
through
it
and
then
we'll
see,
what's
remaining,
hopefully
get
that
one
finished
out.
A
C
C
I
did
get
a
message
from
tom,
so
actually.
A
B
So
yeah,
my
only
comment
was
I've.
I've
been
chatting
with
our
csdb
expert
internally,
so
if
they've
got
any
additional
use
cases
or
tweaks,
but
I
think
if
we
want
to
merge
this
and
then
we
can
do
that
via
another
pr,
which
is
fine.
C
I
noticed
you
and
another
person
as
well
getting
some
kind
of
error.
Would
you
you
said
you
were
getting
a
well?
Actually
there
was
the
files
tab.
I
guess
they
did
this.
Okay.
A
B
B
A
Okay,
let
me
try
to
open
an
incognito
day,
but
either
way
it
worked
for
me.
So
I'm
guessing
that
there's
some
type
of
gateway
proxy
on
your
side
of
the
world,
tom
yeah.
B
A
B
E
A
A
A
A
A
A
These
are
user
stories.
We're
not
saying
this
is
a
best
practice
that
everyone
must
be
compliant
with.
These
are
user
stories
and
use
cases
to
give
us
context
specifically
they're
focused
around
stateful
cnfs,
so
that,
when
we're
talking
about
practices
that
have
to
do
with
state
we'll
be
able
to
relate
them
to
real
world
scenarios,.
A
And
I
want
to
suggest
and
to
everyone
on
the
call
that
we
adjust
the
number
of
thumbs
up
for
user
stories
and
user
use
cases
to
be
lower.
Three,
maybe.
A
I
guess:
can
I
get
a
just
a
verbal
or
add
your
notes
to
the
google
doc
if
ian
anyone
wants
denver,
y'all
can
just
do
a
thumbs
up
on.
A
Yeah,
I
figure
you
may
have
github
issues.