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From YouTube: CNCF SIG Observability 2021-01-19
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CNCF SIG Observability 2021-01-19
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C
So
while
we
wait
steve,
I
hope
everything
I
just
said
during
the
cnc
ftlc
explainer
was
pretty
much.
C
I
honestly
want
him,
okay,
so
yeah.
If
in
hindsight
we
should
have-
or
I
should
have
coordinated
this
it's
but
yeah.
I
I'm
glad
I
I
I
hate
to
write,
notes.
D
Now
mine
are
vmware
blocks,
so
there's
some
artists
that
made
them.
They
look
like
they're
3d
printed,
but
they're
they're,
art.
C
Yeah
well,
one
one
doesn't
preclude
the
other,
even
though
I'm
more
of
the
functional
print
part
or
side
of
the
discussion
myself.
C
As
a
point
of
order,
I
we
need
to
try
and
get
this
moving
earlier,
because
it's
highly
unfair
to
the
people
who
actually
show
up
on
time,
which
pretty
much
includes
all
of
the
people
here,
and
it's
just
yeah,
totally
unfair.
Taking
those
five
minutes
away
from
all
of
you,
instead
of
just
getting
going
as
a
reminder,
put
yourself
into
the
attendance
of
the
reading
notes,
which
are
here
just
linkedin
chat,
so
people
see
the
work
you
do.
We
only
have
one
point
on
the
agenda
which
I
currently
hope
with
my
name.
C
It's
basically
updates
all
around
so
first
as
an
update
over
the
years,
there
happened,
I
think,
a
total
of
two
or
was
it
three
open,
telemetry
and
open
metrics
calls
combined,
but
the
most
recent
one
was
a
workshop
which
happened
on
friday
night-
or
I
guess
friday
at
friday,
during
the
day
for
40s
friday
night
for
for
emea,
which
even
has
voting
forum
by
by
prometheus
team
in
attendance,
even
though
most
of
premier's
team
is
in
real,
which
tells
you
how
seriously
prometheus
team
has
taken
that
meeting
and
that
effort
to
try
and
align.
C
There
was
a
lot
of
details,
a
lot
of
information
there
still
some
some
fundamental
things
which
which
are
currently
not
compatible
between
open
telemetry
and
open,
metrics
or
prometheus,
and
a
second
tier
of
things
which
are
basically
just
conversions,
which
are
lost
a
lot
less
pressing.
But
this
is
identified
that
we
it's
being
worked
on
and
from
from
open
telemetry
perspective,
the
intention
is
very
much
to
to
go
towards
first
class
prometheus.
So
I
I
hope
that
we
make
progress
there
again,
steve
it's
more
on
like
feel
free
to
interject.
C
At
any
point,
openmetrics
update
the
split
into
two
cncf
update.
We
had
a
conversation
or
actually
two
conversations,
I
think
with
tlc.
C
They
basically
agreed
that
from
from
the
technical
point
and
from
the
operating
level
and
everything
from
open
metrics
it's
on
graduated
level
easily,
yet
they
would
like
to
see
some
more
commitment
to
openness
as
it
were,
which
will
resolve
itself
within
the
next
few
months.
Of
course,
this
year
we
are
doing
everything
in
the
open.
Anyway,
that's
the
commitment
and
that's
what
we're
following.
If
we
want,
and
now
I'm
wearing
the
open
metrics
that
not
the
chair,
so
openmetrics
committed
to
doing
everything
in
the
open
anyway.
C
So
that's
what's
going
to
happen
there
having
there
hasn't
been
a
single,
open,
metrics
meeting
yet
this
year,
so
there's
nothing
which
could
be
publicized,
but
going
forward.
Everything
will
be
on
the
itf
level,
there's
not
too
much
progress
or
there
is
progress,
but
not
too
visible.
Let's
phrase
it
like
this
there's
still
a
mailing
list
where
everyone
who's
interested
can
give
feedback,
and
even
if
it's
just
a
hey,
we
are
using
this
already
within
our
company.
C
That
is
good
feedback
for
the
operational
working
group
within
itf.
I
will
be
putting
a
link
to
to
the
thing
in
there
later
and
also
that
was
one
fun
bit
which
I
honestly
didn't
realize
and
which
is
probably
relevant
for
for
this
group.
As
a
data
point
just
how
far
cloud
native
observability
has
come
as
we
speak,
the
29th
most
used
library
for
go
in
all
of
github.
C
Is
you
guessed
correctly
client
goaling,
which
is
the
prometheus
client
library
for
for
instrumentation
and
metric
submitting,
there's
a
few
other
prometheus
libraries
which
are
also
appearing
in
the
top
300?
We
didn't
run
a
deeper
analysis.
C
We
stopped
at
300.,
but
I
think
this
is
a
very
good
data
point
as
to
the
commitment
of
of
the
wider
go
ecosystem,
not
just
the
cncfs
ecosystem,
but
the
absolute
wider
go
ecosystem
to
have
a
cloud
native
metric
monitoring,
and
I
think
this
boats
well
for
cncf
as
a
whole
that
we
have
this
momentum
of
of
people
really
wanting
to
have
cloud
native
observability,
which
I
think
is,
is
super
nice
and
then
we'll
also
link
this
from
here
last
point
of
information,
then
we're
already
running
out
of
stuff,
I'm
just
coming
out
of
and
steve
also-
and
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
sorry
there
was
a
toc
explainer
today
for
what
all
the
opens
mean
course,
honestly,
that
is
confusing.
C
That
call
is
recorded
and
I
will
also
put
it
into
into
our
meeting
notes,
so
everyone
can
watch
it
if
they.
So
please,
there's
not
much
use
rehashing
this.
It's
literally
an
hour
old,
but
I
will
make
sure
everyone
can
can
can
watch
the
video
if
they
want
to
else.
I
think,
we've.
We
are
still
a
little
bit
in
this
lull
over
new
year's,
where
basically
half
of
december
and
most
of
january
is
taken
up
by
everyone.
D
Might
be
super
quick,
so
just
a
quick
update
on
open
symmetry
working
on
the
incubation
paperwork.
So
that's
that's
underway.
It
needs
to
go
through
governance
board
approval
and
all
of
that,
so
I
don't
have
an
exact
date,
but
heads
up
we'll
have
that
at
some
point
and
then
we'll
bring
that
forth
here
for
for
feedback.
C
A
Yeah
richie
it's
pierce
yeah,
so
richie,
there's
just
this
like
a
new
initiative
that
I've
been
working
on
as
a
part
of
the
community
cncf
community-
and
I
figured
this
might
be
a
good
time
to
just
get
everyone's
opinion
on
it
so
like
what
I'm
trying
to
work
on
is
an
observability
one-on-one
kind
of
series
right,
wherein
we
start
off
from
the
really
basics,
like.
Obviously,
there
are
tracks
for
every
other
tool
present
like
grafana,
prometheus
thanos
and
everything
right.
A
I
will
quickly
share
what
I've
been
looking
at
as
like.
Actually
there's
a
spreadsheet
that
I
had
created
initially
that
I
was
working
on,
but
it's
not
in
the
final
stages
as
as
such,
but
there's
just
few
things
that
I
think
might
might
be
helpful.
I've
put
it
up
on
slack,
I'm
also
putting
up
the
spreadsheet
link
over
here.
C
C
Okay.
Last
call
three
two
one.
Thank
you
very
much
and
we
will
try
to
actually
start
on
time
next
time
and
just
push
through.