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From YouTube: CNCF Storage WG Meeting - 2019-03-13
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A
Can
you
see
my
screen
yep,
okay,
okay,
so
based
on
last
meetings,
review,
we're
saying
we
want
to
have
a
mandatory
section
with
a
small
number
of
questions,
so
people
can
go
over
them
quickly,
so
they
know
there
are
12
as
I
say.
It's
a
maybe
tell
me
needs,
but
I'm
actually
not
sure
if
it
takes
more
because
people
may
need
to
think
so.
A
So
here
are
the
choir
and
how
do
you
classify
your
experience
with
cloud
native
storage
and
the
fourth
question
rank
the
attributes
of
store
systems
based
on
how
important
they
are?
So
here
are
the
attributes
that
we
discussed
about
in
the
white
paper,
so
so,
basically
just
as
atoms,
as
you
mean
when
they
are
ranking
this,
they
may
need
to
think
a
lot.
B
A
So
Alec
says
he
was
saying
that
we
want
to
add
a
deployment
options
on
prim
or
cloud
to
cover,
so
this
is
in
the
this.
This
is
in
a
white
paper,
basically
talking
about,
but
this
one
basically
here
we're
talking
about
you,
deploy
your
storage
either
as
a
hardware
solution,
your
data
center.
This
is
you
li
the
yeah.
A
A
B
A
B
It's
interesting
knowledge
to
know,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
it
makes
a
difference
to
to
the
technical
need
right
if
we
know
what
attributes
they're
looking
for
and
what
types
of
storage
they're
wanting
to
connect
to
where
it
is
whether
it's
in
a
public
or
private
cloud
I'm,
not
sure
how
much
difference
that
would
make.
We.
A
A
B
A
Yeah,
okay,
so
I'll
just
ask
him:
if
it's
okay,
it's
maybe
it's
already
colored
anyway,
so
all
right
and
then
number
five,
basically
just
rank
those
attributes.
It's
the
same.
It's
the
same
attributes
just
rank
them.
What
are
the
pain,
the
pain
points
when
you're
using
container
storage
or
the
pain
points?
You
have
rank
what
you
know
the
most,
the
biggest
problem
that
you
have?
A
A
The
second
of
is
really
when
you
are
using
them,
then
what
are
the
problems
you
are
facing
this
layer
so
slightly
different,
yeah,
okay,
yeah.
So
then
the
number
six,
basically
just
if
you
are
using
block
stories,
tell
us
what
is
the
system
that
you
are
using?
So
if
they
give
us
a
name,
then
we'll
probably
have
a
good
idea
right.
It's
it
out
there,
a
school
club.
We
know
that's
deployment
is
on
cloud
not
on
Prem
and
then
hopeful,
if
you're,
using.
A
If
you
use,
if
our
systems
specify
what
what
systems
you're
using
is
the
same,
and
then
we
have
cement
same
questions
for
object
or
just
tell
us
which
one
you're
using
key
value
store.
So
you
several
choices
here
and
then,
if
it's
a
database,
what
is
the
database
you
are
using?
So
I
think
you
lose
some
overlapping
between
number
nine
and
number
ten
number
ten
key
value,
but
some
of
those
like
Cassandra,
you
know
cockroach,
it
was
also
databases
or
but
I
think
they
can.
A
A
And
and
then,
and
next
one
is
the
orchestration
containing
orchestration
systems.
What
are
you
using
and
then
after
specify
that
one,
what
type
of
so
this
one
could
be
also
be
multi?
Select,
I,
guess
is
that
most
of
those
are
what's
left
and
what
type
of
workloads
you
are
currently
running
on
containers
or
what
are
you
planning
on
in
the
next
studio
six
months?
So,
okay
with
you
example,
so
then
you
can
list
whatever
they
are
running.
C
A
Okay,
so
here
are
the
mandatory
questions
and
then
we
go
to
the
optional
ones.
So
this
is
the.
How
is
your
storage
solution
deploy?
So,
okay?
So
do
we
need
to
combine
this
with
the
with
this
comments
from
Alex
of
Alex,
saying
I'm,
trim
or
cloud,
or
do
we
still
keep
this?
This
one
base
is
saying:
okay,
you
deeply.
That
is
hard
well
solution
or
software
components
on
commodity
servers
or
if
this
one
still
has
a
little
bit
more
detail,
I
think
public
cloud
or
cloud
switch
as
a
service.
That
is
so.
A
B
A
B
B
C
B
C
B
C
A
A
So,
basically,
can
we
just
look
at
those
two
questions,
because
we
took,
we
didn't
really
ask
the
deployment
questions
before
other
than
we
just
asked
them
what
storage
systems
they
are
using,
then
that
we
can
probably
tell
from
that
as
well.
So
right,
if
they
say
okay
they're
using
it
as
EDS,
then
we
know
right.
C
C
Don't
know
I
I
think
it
really.
This
the
form
of
your
storage
is
orthogonal
to
where
you're
located
myself.
In
other
words,
if
you
define,
if
you
use
an
outside
vendor,
provided
storage
as
a
service,
that's
one
category,
a
dedicated
appliance
form
is
a
second
and
software-defined
storage
is
a
third
and
they
exist,
regardless
of
where
you're
hosted.
On-Prem
were
in
a
cloud,
so
I
think
questions
is
warrant,
but
maybe
not
every
permutation
of
those
right.
Yeah.
B
Even
I
agree
with
you
in
terms
of
the
technical,
you
know
what
would
make
a
difference
to
us
in
looking
at
at
how
these
stores
solutions
would
work,
but
I
think
the
deployment,
whether
it's
cloud
or
local
or
Colo,
gives
us
insight.
As
to
you
know,
the
the
closeness
of
the
data
right,
the
expectation
in
terms
of
performance
would
be
something
that
I
would
have
an
interest
in
yeah.
C
And
by
the
way,
I
also
do
like
the
question
of
going
up
a
tear
from
block
storage
where
that
that
what
is
it?
The
fourth
question
down
on
13
getting
into
asking
about
as
a
service
forms
of
things
like
Cassandra,
key
value
stores,
whatever
getting
block
store
and
turning
it
into
these
services
yourself?.
B
C
To
be
honest,
my
speculation
is,
we
can
ask
the
you
know
we
can
ask
the
on-prem
public
cloud
Colo,
but
I've
sort
of
talked
to
enough
people
that
it
I've
come
to
the
conclusion
that
with
big
enterprises,
they're
checking
every
one
of
those
boxes
right
now
and
I.
Don't
think
I
I'm
curious
enough
to
know
because
I
think
I've
already
come
to
the
conclusion,
but
we
could
put
it
there
to
confirm
it
are.
C
A
C
D
So
I
think
you
know,
based
on
who
this
survey
is
going
to
we're
gonna
get
different
results
even
from
the
people
in
the
same
company,
but
if
you're
on
the
off
side
of
the
house,
you
would
probably
know
all
these
needy
greedy
details
about
the
infrastructure
there,
as
you
know
whether
it's
cold
or
not.
Well,
there
is
what
that
block
storage,
whereas
if
the
story
goes
mostly
to
the
developers,
they
probably
would
click
object,
storage,
stuff
or
more
cloud
stuff.
A
A
A
D
A
C
D
A
Last
thing
we
have
already
called
rid
of
that
question
in
the
beginning.
In
the
survey
we
do
have
a
usually
the
first
version,
the
survey.
Let's
have
like
the
categories
you
who
you
are
but
but
the
nice
last
time
we
so
bases
that
you're
using
so
we
change
it
this
one.
Last
time
we
got
rid
of
the
first
question,
so
this
is
our
write.
A
Right
right,
yeah,
it
should
right
yeah.
So
so,
basically
this
question:
basically
some
people
may
not
be
able
to
answer
it.
Then
that's
fine
right.
They
can
just
think
don't
know.
We
do
have
this
one
here
right.
We
can't,
we
can't
say
a
video
developer,
don't
and
we
cannot
say
that,
but
this
is
a
more
targeting
the
end
user,
so
I.
A
D
F
A
D
A
D
B
For
some
of
these
surveys,
I've
seen
in
the
past
that
we've
here
in
our
organization
had
success
with
is
we
would
ask
the
demographic
questions,
those
questions
that
would
kind
of
identify
who's,
taking
the
survey
at
the
very
end
and
make
them
optional,
and
that
way
it
would
at
least
give
us
the
opportunity
to
gain
that
extra
insight
as
to
who
was
taking
the
survey.
So,
okay.
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
A
B
A
A
Yeah
yeah
next
month,
you
see
my
data
services
are
provided
yeah,
this
nice
party
it'll
be
better
than
number
14
so
and
the
16
does
your
system
require
installation
for
kernel
mode,
I
think
this
module.
This
is
a
sod
bring
this
up
last
me
said
he
he
said
he
thought
lists
the
question
a
lot.
So
so
I
have
this
one.
In
this
optional
question.
A
B
A
A
A
C
C
A
C
A
A
A
A
E
A
So,
okay
and
then
of
yeah,
this
is
a
little
more
basically
than
which
is
what
do
you
know
what
type
of
warning
type?
What
are
you
implying,
you're
using
okay?
So
maybe
I
should
read
the
question
because
I
think
is
it
Chad?
He
says
he
couldn't
delete
it
so
number
17.
So
are
you
using
a
warning
plug-in
two
provisions?
Two
original
containers?
If
answer
is
yes,
then
what
type
of
water
plugin
are
you
using?
A
You
know
company
is
into
plugin
talker
watering
driver
interface,
talking
flux,
falling
CSI,
so
this
would
be
a
question
that
I'm
interested
in
so
I
like
to
keep
it
as
that
option,
at
least
and
I'll
jump
to
the
number
in
the
next
question.
It's
a
what
protocol
is
the
block
storage
system
you're
using?
If
that
is
a
you
know
applicable,
you
know,
I'm,
miss
Kavita,
Chaturvedi
and
20.
C
A
C
B
F
A
A
C
A
Yeah,
so
this
is
so.
This
is
a
particular
one
that
we
are
adding
yeah.
This
is
pretty
cool
protocol.
We
are
adding
our
plugins
I
know
this
one,
but
I
think
there
are
slightly
different
way
of
saying
the
plug-in
and
it's
a
little
different
site.
Yeah
I'm
not
exporting
this
myself,
but
I.
Sometimes
people
just
say
in
DME
I,
would
say.
A
A
F
A
C
A
Okay,
I
think
it's
party,
okay,
I,
just
add
this
money.
People
want
you
to
write
something
different.
They
can
say
you
know
you
can
say
other
or
something
if
they
say
think
this
is
more
too
specific,
but
this
is
a
definitely
a
product
of
that
that
I,
just
don't
know
if
using
a
broader
way
of
thinking,
is
so
that
includes
this
one
and
there's
another
nother
one.
So,
okay
I'll
just
leave
this
on
here,
but
if
you
guys
think
we
should
keep
it
away,
then
you
know
I'm.
A
Shared
a
file
systems,
and
then
this
one,
just
in
my
affairs,
ifs
and
and
then
that
that
that's
almost
it
and
are
there
anything
else
you
want
us
know.
So
that's
basically
a
very
general
question.
If
they
want
you
just
to
put
on
any
more
sauce,
they
have.
So
that's
so
so
a
little
bit
over
20
questions
in
toto
part
of
twenty
two
questions,
one.
Maybe
twenty
one,
twenty
two
questions
in
total
yeah,
but
if
they
just
want
to
do
the
first
row,
then
you
know
maybe
they
can
get
it
done
in
ten
minutes.
B
Yeah
421
I
think
that's
a
good
opportunity
to
have
people
mention
any
other
technical
challenges.
They're
facing
as
well
may
want
to
may
want
to
suggest
that.
Are
there
any
other
anything
else
you'd
like
us
to
know
or
any
any
technical
challenges
you'd
like
to
share,
maybe
trying
to
elicit
a
response
from
from
folks
who
are
having
technical
challenges
mm-hmm,
because
that's
kind
of
what
we're
looking
to
address.
A
A
A
E
A
A
A
E
B
A
So,
let's
see
all
right
cool
I
said
we
have
so
as
you're.
Obviously
your
contributor,
a
vendor
distributor
cloud
provider,
cross
the
operator
clone
native
storage
user
yeah.
So
your
app
developer
deploy
your
that's
something
like
that.
So
maybe
we
should
okay
move
this
onto
the
top
right,
since
this
is
targeting
the
user.
So
we
just
make
this
the
first
choice
highlighting
that,
but
then
they
can.
You
know
they
can
select
other
other
choices.
C
A
C
A
B
F
A
C
A
Or
I
didn't
so
this,
so
those
categories
originally
come
from
some
survey.
The
I
think
that
the
maintenance
team
that
what
a
stable
maintain
is
team
there's
some
team.
They
have
some
survey.
So
this
is
the
front
already
know
the
template
for
Quintin.
So
this
is
the
first
question,
so
some
of
those
rows
are
from
that.
So
maybe
that's
why?
In
a
small
targeting
on
CNC
a
project
I.
A
A
C
A
A
C
A
Yes,
families
it'll
be
a
bit
weird
to
the
distributor,
see
maybe
because
they're
more
that
group
is
more
for
focusing
on.
You
know
what
is
the
staple
maintenance
release
or
something?
Maybe
that's
you
know
they
are
more.
They
want
to
know
who
are
the
distributor
right
because
they
they
would
be
care
more
about
the
maintenance
releases.
Something
I
don't
know,
okay,
so,
okay,
so
does
this
look
good?
Now?
Yes,.
C
A
All
right,
okay,
so
okay,
so
I
will
just
update
this.
It's
you
have
discussed.
A
So
party
I
will
need
to
I
just
need
to
put
in
the
you
know:
survey
I
will
ask
so
check
with
Alex
and
couldn't
see
they
what
they
want
to
do
before.
I
move
this
to
your
Survey,
Monkey
I,
don't
know
if
I
think
we're
supposed
to
you
to
talk
to
you,
the
end-user
corporates
where
I'm
see
but
I
don't
know
if
they
want
to
just
look
at
this
and
this
way
or
do
they
want
to
see
it.
I
wrote
in
the
surveys.
A
B
A
B
A
Yeah
yeah
I
think
that
we
know
that
could
be
a
good
idea.
See
that
when
you
register
for
the
conference,
they
actually
ask
you
certain
questions.
It's
already
kind
of
survey
filling
out
the
survey,
but
but
I
think
there
would
be
other
too
late
for
us
because
right
because
we
need
to
get
the
survey
out
before
the
conference,
because
you
want
to
actually
only
be
talking
about
some
of
the
survey
results
at
the
conference.