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CNCF SIG Storage 2020-04-22
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B
B
B
B
D
B
Let's
start
off
I've
posted
the
the
agenda
in
in
the
chat
window,
so
there's
there's
there's
a
few
things:
I
wanted
to
go
through
first
off
I've
incorporated
all
of
the
final
changes
on
the
database
sections
and
management
interface
updates,
it's
around
that
Jing,
Zhu
and
and
everybody
else
had
had
sort
of
provided
feedback
on
and
contributed
with.
So
the
final
documents
were
the
version
two
of
the
landscape.
Is
it's
now
ready
I?
B
E
B
There
is
the
database
section
and
the
database
comparison
table,
and
then
there
are
the.
There
are
quite
a
number
of
changes
in
the
management
interfaces
section
to
kind
of
all
of
that
was
was
sort
of
refreshed
to
take
into
consideration
some
of
the
new
things
that
happened
with
CSI
and
objects
interfaces,
and
that
kind
of
thing
sounds
great.
C
B
B
D
B
B
B
But
we
haven't
gotten
that
yet
so
so
I'll
I'll
chase
up,
but
in
the
meantime,
if
anybody
else
has
has
any
updates-
or
you
know-
has
any
ideas
for
this
I
would
really
appreciate
any
help
that
we
can,
if
in
I'd,
really
like
to
to
clean
this
up
and
have
a
version,
that's
ready
for
review
for
the
next
for
the
next
meeting,
because
it's
been
outstanding
for
it
to
long.
At
this
stage,.
B
And
then
again,
similar
sort
of
thing
with
the
use
case
templates
we
had,
we
had
a
bunch
of
discussions.
It
was
you
know
we
had
some
fairly
contentious
discussions
as
to
what
we're,
including
in
the
use
case,
template
we
finally
agreed
to
to
have
a
use
case
based
on
groups
of
categories,
and
we
decided
to
move
the
mark
down
into
into
Google
Docs
and
put
in
a
couple
of
other
sections
to
cover
of
some
of
the
other
comments,
as
we
had
previously
discussed.
B
But
we've
kind
of
stalled
at
this
stage
and
I
think
I
think
it's
it's
probably
a
bit
of
coordination
and
a
bit
of
a
bit
of
work
where
we
can
maybe
spend.
We
need
two
or
three
people,
I
guess
to
sit
down
together
for
an
hour
or
so
and
flourish
out.
It's
one
example
and
then
release
this
too
for
for
comment
and
and
run
further
and
further
work,
so
release
I.
Guess:
you'll
put
your
hand
not
for
this.
So.
D
B
B
B
The
the
survey
that
we
had
prepared
last
year
and
it
turned
out
that
I
think
following
the
webinar
that
we
had
done,
we
got
we
got
30
or
40
new
people
responding
and
bleep
just
haven't,
checked
up
on
it.
Unfortunately,
so
this
kind
of
fell
through
the
cracks,
which
is
a
little
embarrassing,
but
the
results
are
now
in
because
we
have.
We
have
at
least
fifty
four
people
had
have
responded.
So
there's
there
is
some
meaningful
data
there,
I
guess
the
question
is
now:
how
do
we
handle
reprocess
this?
It
would
be
very
useful.
B
A
E
I
think
it'd
be
good
to
have
a
presentation
to
this
group
at
least,
and
perhaps
the
discussion
of
the
outcomes
yeah.
First
of
all,
just
to
verify
that
we
think
things
we've
got
sensible
responses,
I,
don't
know
what
makes
sense.
We've
we've
kind
of
sanitized
the
results
so
made
sure
that
they
make
any
amount
of
sense.
So
let's
do
that
first
and
then,
and
then
we
can
perhaps
see
I
think
a
blog
or
something
like
that.
In
addition
to
perhaps
cube
compressor
would
be
good.
C
A
B
The
CI
kV
graduation,
so
so
as
background
this.
This
project
is
at
this
reputed
sharded
replicated
key
value
store,
which
was
used
as
the
as
the
backing
store
for
TI
DB,
and
it's
currently
an
incubation
project.
A
new
division
stock
was
was
written
as
part
of
the
as
part
of
the
the
PR
and
I've
had
a
brief
review
of
that.
B
Due
diligence
talk,
but
I
guess
one
of
us
needs
to
go
through
that
in
a
bit
more
detail,
and
perhaps
you
know
tryouts
TI
kV,
and
we
also
need
to
schedule
a
presentation
of
the
of
the
project
as
an
update,
because
the
last
presentation
that
they
did
was
was
prior
to
incubation
I
area
and
I
saw
you.
You
had
fallen
through
to
look
at
the
DD.
That
right
did.
If
you
actually
get
Ryan.
Did
he
mash
find
some
time
to
do
that?
No.
B
B
We
had
some
concerns
after
and
scienter
had
prepared
a
review
of
the
of
harbor
and
during
a
talk
meeting
we
had
some
concerns
around
the
use
of
single
points.
Sorry
did
the
fact
that
there
is
a
single
point
of
failure
with
with
some
Postgres
dependencies
and
things
lat
which,
which
we
wanted
to
highlight
so
I
guess
there
is
a
final
step
there
to
move
our
concerns
from
the
from
the
issue.
I
think
that
side
had
created
into
the
due
diligence
dock.
E
Yes,
I
can,
if
Delta
cited
most
of
the
few
diligence
I
just
sort
of
chimed
in
at
the
end
as
yeah,
as
is
my
henchman,
but
yes,
I.
Think
if
he's
written
a
stuff
down,
I'm
happy
to
summarize
it
in
the
consolidated
document
or
move
it
there
or
whatever
and
sort
of
my
should
represent
correctly.
It
would
be
great
if
he
could,
but
if
he's
not
able
to
do
that,
all.
B
B
Jarrod's
and
team
had
presented
to
the
sig
a
couple
of
weeks
back
and
we're
going
to
work
in
the
next
progress,
the
the
move
to
graduation
they,
they
had
completed
things
like
the
security
review
and
things
like
that.
However,
I
believe
there
was
an
issue
where
the
due
diligence
doc
haven't
been
completed
at
the
point
of
incubation,
which
basically
means
it's,
it
must
have
slipped
through
the
cracks,
somehow
it
which
is,
which
is
not
great.
So
the
challenge
now
is
to
to
implement
a
fuller.
The
full
due
diligence
talk
for
the
for
the
graduation
request.
E
E
So
I
didn't
do
that
and
I
was
not
around
when
when
they
maybe
let
me
just
clarify
so
they
they
went
into
incubation
at
some
point
in
the
past
and
I
was
not
around
at
that
time.
I
was
either
not
on
the
TRC
or
I
was
on
long
vacation
or
something,
but
but
certainly
I,
don't
recall
voting
for
it
or
having
anything
to
do
with
it,
and
then
I
haven't
looked
into
the
exactly
when
that
happened,
but
it
was
a
few
years
ago.
E
E
I
haven't
gone
through
the
archives
to
find
out
like
how
the
boat
happened
or
why
they
vote
happens
with
other
decisions
that
it
sounds
like
that's
what
happened
and
all
of
what
I'm
saying
should
be
verified,
because
it's
kind
of
based
on
emails,
I,
think
I've
read,
and
so
my
suggestion
and
I
think
the
suggestion
of
others
is
that
we
need
to
do
a
due
diligence
before
they
graduate
and
that
hasn't
been
done.
Yet
right.
A
D
D
A
D
E
Already
I
think
we
don't
want
to
have
graduated
CN
CF
projects
that
have
not
have
us
have
a
due
diligence
done,
so
I
would
suggest,
and
it's
gonna
be.
It's
gonna
delay
the
process.
Obviously,
and
it's
going
to
disappoint
Jared
and
they've
been
trying
very
hard
to
kind
of
get
their
thing.
Graduated
and-
and
it
looks
to
me
superficially
as
if,
if
it's
probably
like
totally
fine
to
graduate
it,
but
but
we
do
need
to
actually
do
the
due
diligence
I've
been
done
in
the
past.
That's
my
feeling
at
least
that's.
A
E
And
yeah,
it's
not
just
a
matter
of
a
doc
being
missing.
It's
it's
a
matter
of
like
I'm,
not
sure
anybody
has
from
the
TRC.
All
six
storage
have
actually
gone
and
looked
into
the
details
of
that
project.
It's
one
thing
to
see
their
presentation.
It's
another
thing
to
actually
go
and
verify
that
the
project
is
is
everything
it
says
it
is,
and
I
had
no
reservations
about
the
team
or
Jared
or
anybody
else,
but
we
still
need
to
do
that.
I
can.
E
We
can
decide
that
when
I
years
and
years
and
years
ago,
I
put
together
a
guideline
for
doing
due,
diligence,
--is
and-
and
it's
got
a
whole
bunch
of
questions
to
ask-
make
sure
you
have
sufficient
information
to
verify
this
than
that
and
the
next
thing
and
I
didn't
you
know.
I
was
not
explicit
about
exactly
how
you
should
get
that
information
by
speaking
to
users.
E
If
you
think
this
credible
information
that
says
that
X
Y
Z
is
using
this
at
so-and-so
scale,
then
then
it's
up
to
you
to
decide
whether
you
think
that's
credible
information
or
not,
and
if
you
want
to
speak
to
I
mean
let's
face
it.
Even
speaking
to
customers
is,
does
not
necessarily
provide
credible
information.
So.
D
B
D
That
look
went
through
a
bunch
of
reviews
on
the
other
six
though
so
I
guess
that's.
Why
I'm
confused,
because
I
know
that
they
went
through
security
review
and
another
review
I
mean
it
has
to
be
some
I
think
there
has
to
be
some
assets
that
were
missing
that
were
created
out
of
the
graduation
process,
so
I
don't
feel
like
we
have
nothing
to
go
on
that
they
haven't
gone
through
some
of
the
process.
I,
just
don't
think
we
have
all
the
information
consolidated
into
one
place
know.
A
E
Got
into
incubation
went
through
due
diligence.
That's
the
problem,
not
the
graduation
stuff
is
a
very
small
incremental
addition
to
what's
required
for
incubation.
So
incubation
is
the
major
due
diligence
that
happens
in
the
CNC
F
sandbox
is,
you
know
very
lightweight,
because
we
want
immature-
and
you
know
twinkle
in
the
eye
kind
of
projects
to
be
able
to
be
hosted
in
sandbox,
but
you
did
but
the
big
one
and
yes
I
believe
they
have
all
had
it
except
this
one,
and-
and
this
is
another
herbicide
but
I'm
not
aware
of
any
others.
Just.
E
A
E
B
A
C
B
So
so
I
think
it's
one
might
be
it's
likely,
because
so
so,
just
to
summarize
what
Quentin
was
saying
all
the
mainly
diligence
happens
at
the
incubation
stage.
The
graduation
stage
is
kind
of
like
a
couple
more
steps,
so,
for
example,
at
graduation
you
just
have
to
show
additional
users
more
than
one
user
using
it.
And,
secondly,
you
have
to
do
a
security
review,
which
is
which
is
actually
paid
for
by
the
CN
CF
and
I.
B
Okay,
hey
so
so.
Finally,
the
preview
project
that
presents
that
at
our
last
meeting,
I'm
gonna
follow
up
briefly
with
the
with
the
project
team.
I
think
the
particular
project
looks
very
interesting.
It's
it's!
It's
an
interesting
set
of
components
which
sort
of
leads
to
be
to
be
able
to
be
used
as
a
a
message,
queue
and
and
another
event
processing.
B
In
many
ways
you
know
it
would
be
it
comparable
to
perhaps
the
Nats
project,
which
was
early
in
the
scenes
year
for
or
maybe
even
something
like
Kafka,
so
I
think
it's
it's
worth
following
up
with
them,
but
they're
they're,
not
100%,
decided
to
to
donate
this
to
the
CNC
F
at
this
stage,
I
think
they
were.
They
were
trying
to
debate
whether
to
do
to
do
it
as
far
as
the
CNC
F
for
as
part
of
the
I
believe
it's
the
a
I
foundation,
or
something
like
that.
B
B
B
So
there's
there's
there's
myself
on
pole:
sorry
from
storage,
arresters,
Nick
Connolly
from
doTERRA
this
vadim
chick
chat,
chenko,
which
is
really
from
Percona
and
there's
Seif
al
hafi,
which
is
that
planet-scale
suger
yeah,
planet-scale,
yeah
and
aunt
spyler
design.
Him
I
think
it's
per
Crona
as
well.
Yeah,
Tyler
and.
F
So
I
can
try
to
put
in
enumerate
some
of
those
pitfalls.
But
it's
it's
a
it's
a
big
step.
When
you
know
this
is
kind
of
a
a
primer
and
getting
into
that
kind
of
write.
Amplification
is,
you
know,
going
a
little
little
deeper,
so
I
didn't
know
what
kind
of
audience
you
wanted
to
really
tailor
to.
Is
it
just
to
get
awareness,
or
did
you
really
want
it
to
be
kind
of
a
checklist,
walkthrough
guidance
coming
a
document
so.
B
The
idea
was
was
primarily
to
to
kind
of
inform
users,
especially
in
the
pitfalls
and
sort
of
it's
kind
of
common
issues
that
that
people
might
come
across.
So
certainly
you
know
if
there's,
if
there's
a
paragraph
or
two,
that
you
can
talk
about,
it's
a
right
amplification
and
it
says
things
I
believe
we
actually
harder
to
do
on
the
list
to
put
something
like
that
in
there
I
think
that
that
would
be
fantastic.
B
F
F
F
B
F
A
B
D
B
E
Just
wanted
to
actually
thank
you
Alex
for
I'm,
looking
through
all
the
stuff
that
we've
actually
achieved
is
is
pretty
impressive.
It's
a
to
the
small
small
team,
and
most
of
the
work
is
actually
being
done
by
you.
Kirsten
yeah
I
think
we
should.
We
should
all
take
the
opportunity
to
Matthew
and
the
rest
of
the
people.
Who've
been
involved
on
on
backs
and
things
because
this.