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A
C
Yeah,
let's
just
maybe
like
wait,
a
cup
like
like
wait
like
three
or
four
minutes
so
that,
like
more
people
can
get
in
yeah,
I
cannot
see
a
lot
of
people
today.
B
No,
I
was
removed,
I
was
gonna
come,
but
just
in
the
end,
my
my
co-speaker,
she,
it
would
have
been
kind
of
difficult
for
her
to
get
a
tick
a
visa
in
time.
So
we
just
decided
to
do
it
remotely.
But
valencia.
C
B
C
You
went
right,
no,
actually
like,
because
it's
like,
I
have
like
doing
going
there.
It's
easy
but
like
getting
bad,
is
very
hard
because
once
a
day.
B
C
B
Up
a
couple
weeks
ago,
I'm
doing
the
rounds
and
all
my
cncf
friends,
I
met
katie
comanche
night
before
last,
so
I'm
trying
to
work
through
everybody.
I
know,
whilst
we're
allowed
to
go
back
out
again.
C
C
Cool
I've
seen
I
have
read
your
blog
a
couple
times:
that's
really
cool!
Oh
thank
you.
A
Nice,
I'm
working
on
a
cool
thing
with
crossplane
and
argos
td
right
now,
I
think,
will
be
really
really
cool,
so
cool
we'll
see.
B
See
I
I
made
the
jump
and
bought
a
like
a
razer
blade
14,
so
I
could
play
games
as
well
and
I'm
happy,
but
like
attaching
vs
code
to
the
remote
ubuntu,
wsl
debugger
is
so
painful
when
you're
building
operators,
it's
like
a
30
second
attachment
time.
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
under
the
hood
and
it's
almost
making
me
think
I
want
to
throw
out
the
window
and
replace
it,
but
yeah
so
far,
I'm
holding
out.
C
Okay,
I
think,
like
it's
five
minutes
past
the
originally
scheduled
high,
we
can
get
started
okay,
so
I
think
the
first
thing
we
want
to
discuss
is
about
the
cooperative
delivery
working
group.
C
It's
calling
for
nomination,
so
we
we
are
looking
for
like
co-chairs
because
it's
nearly
established
and
it's
it's
aimed
for
bringing
together
the
infrastructure
and
the
application
like
bringing
them
to
be
delivered
together,
and
one
of
the
main
goals
is
to
provide
like
best
practice
and
and
good
patents
for
real
with
real
world
examples
to
end
users
so
and
to
drive
the
like
this
working
group
to
move
forward.
We
are
looking
for
like
two
or
three
coaches
for
for
it.
C
C
C
The
friday
is
next
friday
october
29th.
It's
in
the
mailing
list,
so
if
anyone's
interested
or
if
you
know
anyone
is
interested,
please
tell
them
and
let
them
get
nominated
on
the
maiden
list
on
cncf.
B
C
Actually,
like,
I
think
it's
probably
some-
it's
like
thomas
just
tell
us
that,
like
he's
a
date-
and
we
don't,
we
don't
have
any
problem
with
that.
So
and
that's
how
it's
decided,
but
I
think
you
made
the
right
point.
C
We
probably
can
extend
it
a
little
bit
because
probably
extended
two
or
two
or
three
weeks
because
like
because
I
think
one
of
the
reason
is
that
this
working
group
has
been
you
know
like
being
like
in
the
establishment
process
for
a
long
time,
and
a
lot
of
you
have
already
get
involved
so
so,
probably
like
these
people
already
can
be
interested
and
raise
their
hands
quickly,
but
yeah.
C
We
we
should
be
open
to
the
community
and
and
extend
the
period
a
little
bit,
maybe
like
we
can
extend
it
for
two
more
weeks.
What
do
you
think.
B
Well,
I'm
just
looking:
he
opened
it
on
the
19th
of
october
and
it's
closing
on
the
29th
so
effectively.
That
has
been
what
that's
seven,
eight,
nine!
That's
ten
days,
it's
not
even
two
weeks,
so
I
propose
that
we
extend
it
to
november
the
5th
sorry
november,
the
2nd.
Then
at
least
that's
going
to
give
you.
You
know
a
bit
more
time
or
even
though,
in
fact
november
the
5th,
but
my
point
is,
is
that
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
probably
on
holiday
right
now.
B
A
lot
of
people
are
kind
of
phased
and
tired
from
post
cube
con.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
much
coverage
this
will
get.
We
could.
We
could
just
see
how
it
goes
right.
We
could
see
if
we
actually
get
enough
nominations,
but
I'm
worried
that
we
get
to
that
date
and
nobody
self
nominates.
So
there's
nobody
nominated.
So
it
would
be
nice
if
we
could
make
a
bit
more
of
a
buzz
about
it.
B
C
B
Hey
jen,
we
were
just
talking
about
the
cooperative
delivery,
working
group,
chair
nominations
and
I'm
suggesting
that
we
extend
it
by
another
week
or
so
because
it's
quite
a
short
10-day
window.
So
maybe
that
would
help
us
to
get
some
more
candidates.
B
Also
another
thing
is
we:
we
should
probably
be
cross-posting
this
more
so
I'll
put
it
on
twitter
and
I
think
it's
already
gone
on
to
the
co-optive
delivery
working
group,
but
it
hasn't
been
posted
on
the
most
important
working
group,
which
is
the
app
delivery
working
group.
So
we
should
be
cross-posting
it
there.
So,
let's,
let's
do
that
I'll
I'll
make
sure
that
it
gets
on
twitter.
If
somebody
can
post
it
hong
kong
and
put
it
on
the
app
the
tag,
app
delivery
group
in
slack
here.
C
I
will
put
it
in
stock
and
also
I
will
write
later
like
to
tell
in
the
dock
that,
in
the
in
in
the
channel
that
like
we
are
opening
for
nomination
and
also
like,
if
not
people,
not
a
lot
of
people
are
playing,
we
will
extend
it
a
little
bit.
Yep
I'm
gonna
play.
C
C
C
So
so
any
other
questions
for
the
cooperative
diploma
working
group
nomination
thing,
if
not
like
we
can
go
proceed
to
the
next
item,
so
so
I
think
the
github
smoking
group
are
putting
their
I,
their
their
white
papers
and
their
charters
into
the
upstream
repo
right.
So
currently,
like
anything
alex,
do
you
know
more
details
about
the
git
ops
thing.
B
D
B
A
We
could
bring
the
the
principles
and
glossary
a
copy
of
them
up
there
and
then
just
reference,
because
we're
we're,
probably
gonna,
have
quite
a
few
like
white
papers
and
stuff
in
that
documents
request.
So
we
can
just
reference
it
at
least
so
that
people
are
looking
in
there.
They
can.
Then
they
know
where
to
go.
Yeah,
yeah.
C
So
I
so,
as
far
as
I
know,
it's
like
the
principles
and
groceries
are
going
to
absolutely
group
and
the
charter
and
white
people
are
going
to
the
open,
githubs
repo
right.
C
Yeah,
I
think
the
pi
is
already
approved
yeah.
I
will
take
another
look
and
merge
it
as
soon
as
possible,
so
and
yeah
anything
else
for
the
git
ops
working
group
updates.
C
Okay,
so
let's
proceed
to
the
next
item,
the
q
cube
con
updates
in
the
cubicle
updates.
I
think
jan
and
elias
gave
a
talk
on.
If
I
talk
about
the
updates
on
delivery
tag
jen,
would
you
give
just
brief
it
a
little
bit.
D
Yeah,
it
was
the
deep
dive
into
the
tag
up
delivery,
basically
diving
deep
into
the
working
groups
that
are
currently
running,
also
the
operator
white
paper
and
also
calling
for
people
to
like
contribute
with
the
potato
head
as
well
and
in
general,
like
yeah,
there
was
a
lot
of
updates
on
the
potato
head,
reviving
it
and
yeah.
D
I
also
wanted
to
know
from
you
folks
like
what
what
talks
you
thought
that
were
like
good
in
in
our
domain,
like
in
this
domain,
that
you
suggest,
because
I
didn't
watch
everything
I
need
to
catch
up.
So
it
would
be
nice
to
share
here.
If
what
you
you
found
interesting.
A
B
That
would
be
a
really
cool
thing
to
do
is
to,
as
you
say,
like
compile
a
list
of
some
of
the
talks
that
were
relevant
to
to
this.
To
this
tag,
I
think
there
were
quite
a
few
that
were
touching
upon
it.
I've
not
watched
much
myself,
but
I'd.
A
B
A
B
A
So
if
you'd
like,
I
can
send
you
a
list,
probably
relatively
easily,
I
mean
yeah.
I
can
just
put
it
right.
Maybe.
A
Exactly
just
just
the
ones
that
were
like
specifically
like
use
cases
of
doing
software
delivery.
B
A
D
C
Cool
and-
and
I
just
one
more
thing
like
I
think,
thomas
and
I
also
like
pro
just
make
a
talk
into
the
cubecon
china,
which
is
gonna
happen
in
december,
but
like
it's
all
virtual,
so
yeah,
that's
also
an
update
that
we
are
gonna.
Gonna
do.
C
So
yeah,
we
are
we're
also
thinking
about
probably
next
time
in
in
kubecon
europe
or
or
coopercon
china.
We
want
to
host
a
cloud
native
at
delivery
day
so
that,
like
others,
like
all
the
projects
and
vendors
which
is
care
about
software
delivery,
we
can
just
like
focus
on
that
and
and
have
talks
and
have
communication
there.
B
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
and
I
would
really
like
that
to
be
the
first
first
occasion
we
have
the
first
output
from
the
cooperative
delivery
group.
That
should
be
when
we're
showcasing
the
first
tangible
outcomes,
whether
that's
tech
radar,
whether
that's
vendor,
interviews
whatever
it
is,
but
it
might
be
a
nice
date
to
aim
towards
right
right
right
right.
C
And,
and
also
I
talk
about
cooperative
delivery
group,
I
think
thomas,
I
schedule
the
meeting
it's
like
like,
inter
like
interleaving
with
the
with
this
meeting
right.
It's
like
this
meeting
is
about
the
first
and
third
wednesday,
and
the
accompanying
delivery.
Like
group
meeting,
is
the
second
and
fourth
wednesday,
but
does
it
happen?
I
think
the
first
time
thomas
scheduled,
he
he
cancelled
it,
and
so
I
didn't
had
a
chance
to
attend
I'll,
be.
B
E
A
B
Yeah,
it's
it's
not
in
the
cncf
calendar.
So
that's
something
you
need
to
get
getting
that.
A
You
do
we
have
access
to
add
stuff
to
the
cncf
calendar
for
get
ops.
I
think
that
I
thought
that
scott
did,
but
I
I
don't
think
that
I
do,
for
example,.
B
I
think
yeah,
so
so
hong
kong,
would
you
mind
adding
that
as
an
item
on
here?
Let's,
let's
ask
amy,
to
add:
firstly,
the
the
cooperative
delivery
working
group
and
then,
let's
figure
out
if
we
can
get
the
get
ops
working
group
when,
when
do
you,
when
is
it
scheduled
to
get
ups
working
group,
the
meet
up.
A
It's
fortnightly,
so
it's
over!
Oh,
oh,
so
it's
it's
yeah!
It's
gonna
be
next
week.
It's
gonna
be
there.
It
is
it's
on
wednesday
at
11
a.m.
Pacific.
A
Yeah,
if
we're,
if
we
get
a
calendar
or
we
or
just
access
to
that
calendar,
I
can
add
it
on
there,
because
we
also
do
like.
We
also
have
like
the
events
committee
meetings
that
we're
doing
and
we
have
the
co-chair
meetings
and
stuff
so.
C
Yep
cool,
so
so
I
will.
I
would
just
like
pin
amy
to
add
the
calendar
into
the
cncf
app
delivery.
Like
the
big
calendar
thing,
cool.
A
C
All
right,
I
think,
that's
all
the
updates.
I
can
think
of
anything
else.
You
guys
want
to
talk
about
just
feel
free.
B
To
share
I
wanted
to
it's
a
little
bit,
I
mean
I
can
go
at
the
end,
but
I
said
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
before
we
kick
off
the
cooperative
delivery
working
group
in
earnest
so
generating
some
more
interest
around
the
tag
and
getting
some
more
vendor
vendor
participation
in
particular,
but
I
can
go
if
anyone's
else's
got
something
for
someone
to
talk
about.
B
Okay,
well,
I
can
go
ahead,
so
one
of
the
things
I
think
will
be
extremely
important
right
now
is,
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
vendors
are
aware-
and
I
say
vendors,
but
I
mean
community
projects
as
well-
are
aware
of
app
delivery
like
they're,
aware
of
it
kind
of
like
it's
a
thing,
but
I
don't
think
they
realize
there's
an
opportunity
with
the
co-operative
delivery
delivery
group
to
really
showcase
their
projects.
B
So
I'm
talking
about
every
sort
of
you
know,
combination
of
cicd,
tooling,
infrastructure
deployment
and
then
the
more
holistic
solutions
that
do
both.
You
know
we
have
an
immense
opportunity
to
leverage
that
kind
of
platform
and
get
them
involved,
because
normally
vendor
participation
is
extremely
low.
So
what
I
think
I
would
like
to
propose
is
that
for
the
next
meeting
prior
to
the
next
meetings,
gap,
delivery
or
probably
the
inaugural
cooperative
delivery
meeting-
is
that
we
try
and
reach
out
to
some
of
the
representatives
of
those
community
projects.
B
I'm
happy
to
compile
a
list
and
to
even
do
some
of
that
work
myself,
but
I
just
wanted
to
gauge
the
room
whether
you
think
that's
a
sort
of
a
smart
use
of
time
or
whether
we
can
just
let
it
happen
organically.
I
mean
what
are
your
thoughts.
E
We
had
one
meeting
basically
josh
thomas
and
me
where
we
just
talked
about
some
of
these
things
around
that,
but
but
we
have
the
the
on
the
charter,
there's
the
interest
parties
list
and
there's
a
lot
of
people.
There's
people
from
hashicorp.
There's
people
from
we
works.
There's
you
know
friends,
there's
a
lot
of
people
there.
E
That
probably
should
be
a
little
bit
more
involved,
maybe
not
those
you
know
in
particular,
because
people
are
busy,
but
but
someone
from
those
companies,
because
they
they
all
kind
of
tie
into
this
so
yeah.
E
B
So
so
I
think
then,
maybe
to
compromise
to
meet
halfway
would
be
sorry,
please,
but
the
next
time
we
meet
in
either.
Probably
this
group
we
we
know
a
little
bit
more
about
who
effectively
is
going
to
be
in
that
property
delivery
group
and
who
is
going
to
be
active
because
I
think
the
worst
thing
we
can
do
is
to
start
that
group
off
and
to
have
very
low
participation.
B
You
tend
to
get
like
a
a
one
shot
of
like
having
a
lot
of
people
at
the
beginning.
Then
it
will
sort
of
win
dwindle
down.
So
we
should
really
leverage
that
and
actually
start
with
a
very
strong
plan
what
the
groups
can
initially
start
doing
just
to
clarify.
That's
now
going
to
be
next
wednesday,
hong
kong.
Is
that
right,
that's
next
wednesday.
B
Okay,
so
about
it
between
I'll,
be
happy
to
meet
with
you,
robert
and
thomas,
and
whoever
else
offline,
but
let's
really
try
and
make
sure
the
participation
level
is
high
for
that
normal
kickoff
and
that
the
agenda
for
that
group
is
really
well
defined,
because
that
really
the
product
of
that
group
is
what
we'll
be
talking
about.
In
this
group
here.
B
So
one
final
thought
is:
we
never
put
any
actions
on
these
these
documents,
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
cncf
thing,
but
there
are
gender
items,
but
there
are
never
any
actions
that
are
associated
with
individuals.
So
maybe
that's
something
you
might
want
to
adopt.
I
don't
mind
being
on
the
hook
for
something,
if
I
say
I'm
going
to
do
it.
It
also
helps
me.
Do
it.