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A
B
A
B
I
I'm
regarding
your
coupon
talk
that
you
mentioned
on
the
honestly.
B
I'm
not
sure
if
we
should,
if
we
should
give
people
the
possibility
to
present
such
talks
in
one
of
the
big
meetings,
as
we
don't
have
too
many
too
much
content
at
the
moment
or
if
we
should
announce
them
as
separate
events
such
as
app
delivery
talks
or
whatever.
How.
B
I
thought
about
thought
about
offline
events.
A
B
Such
such
Tech
meetings
here,
if
someone
has
talked
to
who
he
wants
to
present
or
she
wants
to
present,
then
that
we
announced
this
as
Tech
app
delivery
for
foreign.
A
B
A
B
B
C
B
B
I'm
not
sure
when
they
would
be
yes,
the
project
meetings
will
take
place
on
Monday
or
Tuesday
and
I
proposed
for
Tuesday.
B
We
we
are
allowed
to
take
presentations
from
sandbox
and
incubation
same
books,
incubation
graduating
projects,
so
also,
if
we,
if
we
get
the
response,
then
we
can
start
to
reach
out
to
the
Inbox
and
incubation
project.
I.
Think
it's
most
important
incubation
projects,
because
the
incubation
projects
have
their
own
pools
normally,
and
then
we
can
give
them
the
chance
to
to
present
them
their
product
there,
but
also
have
some
kind
of
a
meeting
point
for
the
pickup
delivery
to
yes
to
Simply,
talk
or
discuss
things
when
we
are
there.
A
Yeah,
maybe
it's
kind
of
both
like
the
booth
and
the
the
talks
might
center
around
the
projects.
Okay,.
B
So
yesterday
I
talked
to
Alex
Jones,
and
he
also
thought
about
that.
We
that
we
could,
in
the
project,
meetings
that
we
could
do
some
workshops
so
sit
down
together
for
for
one
hour
into
groups,
talk
about
the
two
white
papers
and
afterwards
present
this.
So
this
might
also
also
be
a
way
how
we
could
engage
people
uh-huh.
C
A
A
Of
course,
we
have
metadata
spec
status,
that
kind
of
stuff
but
like
like
there's
duck
types
from
k-native
there
there's
a
million
different
conventions,
for
you
know
where
do
I
specify
where
to
find
secrets
for
bindings
like
there's
a
bunch
of
topics,
I
feel
like
around
that,
and
maybe
I
could
lead
a
disc
whether
it's
based
on
my
talk
or
or
based
on
you
know
just
something
fresh,
but
that
that's
a
topic
that
I'd
love
to
drop
up
and
make
our
group
kind
of
a
center
for
discussing
that.
You
know
evolving.
That.
C
B
Yes,
so
currently
it's
vacation
season,
so
it's
there's
not
too
much
people
in
the
tech
meeting
I
hope
this
gets
better
after
the
vacation
season.
C
B
So
you
it's
the
first
time
for
you
that
you
are
not
to
get
delivery
meeting
right,
yeah.
B
Yes,
normally
the
things
we
are
talking
about
are
pretty
interesting,
but
today
we
don't
have
too
many
agenda
points,
so
you
you
have
chosen
the
one
of
the
one
of
the
worst
days.
I
think.
B
You're,
the
lucky
one,
and
also
what
took
you
here
to
to
our
type.
C
Well,
actually,
we
were,
we
submitted
our
project,
Cloud
Natick
PG
to
the
sandbox,
and
they
tell
us
about
the
tax.
So
I
can
see
that
actually
there's
something
about
the
samples
they
tell
us
to
propose
something
to
tack
up
delivery:
okay,.
B
C
Yeah
transql
operator
for
kubernetes,
we
actually,
we
are
a
little
bit
lost
on
this
because
we
don't
know:
what's
the
policy,
how
we
need
to
submit
something
is
actually
tag
up:
the
Liberty
the
proper
place,
because
we've
been
talking
out
also
with
the
tax
storage
people,
because
it's
not
my,
we
are
not
using
a
staple
set
so
so
that
people
say
okay,
why
not
using
a
table
set,
but
the
sandbox
commit
say
about
tag
up
delivery.
So
we
are
like
where
to
go.
It's
our.
C
B
A
I
think
that
we
need
to
listen
to
the
feedback.
Have
we
written
down
the
feedback.
B
Thomas
from
to
be
honest,
I
think
so,
I
can
I
can
take
this
over,
because
I
think
for
especially
for
postgres
to
take
a
delivery.
Is
the
Mr
wrong
one,
because
we
also
do
not
have
some
I
think
also
the
patients
and
such
things
are
not
are
not
part
of
our
of
our
Pig.
A
Well,
the
one
thing
I'll
bring
up
Thomas
is
like
the
first
thing
that
I
think
of
about
this
one
is
that
there
are
like
three
or
four
postgres
operators
out
there
now
I'm
sure
you
all
know
that
there's
crunchy
EDB
I
saw
a
little
bit
ago.
Now.
This
is
another
one.
She
didn't
get
a
chance
to
look
at.
So
is
it
about
operators
and
how
we
deploy
different
kinds
of
infrastructure,
or
is
it
about
the
infrastructure
itself?
That's
being
deployed
exactly.
C
Yeah-
and
we
already-
we
actually
already-
did
all
the
license
issue.
We
ADB
released
the
code
open
source,
it's
more
like
a
community
stuff
right
now,
it's
not
like
a
work
from
a
company.
We
actually
have
people
work
in
another
company
that
is
maintainer
right
now,
so
we
are
in
the
middle
of
nowhere
right
here,
because
we
yeah
there
is
salando,
but
Solano
will
never
release
their
operator.
Open
source
I
mean
the
license.
The
the
operator
is
open
source,
but
the
license.
The
same
is
for
branchy.
C
They
are
actually
are
going
more
closed
and
open,
and
this
is
this
one
is
staggers
also,
but
it's
not
so
Cloud
native,
because
it's
not
using
mostly
the
API.
So
there's
some
difference
because
we
deploy
not
using
external
Subs,
but
we
use
only
the
kubernetes
API
to
manage
everything.
So
there's
no
external
apps,
there's.
No,
all
the
other
operators
use
patroni
and
stuff
like
that,
and
we
don't
use
it.
We
use
only
kubernetes,
that's
the
part
of
cloud
native.
B
I
think
I
think
it's
small
six
storages
or
Tech
storages.
A
A
Well
so
Thomas
one
other
thing
like
it's
services
in
general,
like
let's
say
a
Kafka
broker,
is
the
next
people
or
identity.
The
you
know
delivery
is
that
each
of
those
the
service
types
should
be
categorized
into
the
correct
tags.
I
guess
like
identity
Services
should
go
to
the
tag
Identity
or
auth
or
whatever
no.
B
So,
as
far
as
I
know,
what
the
internet
services
would
fall
under
the
another
pixel
review,
so
for
us,
the
the
open
operator
framework
itself
as
far
as
I
know,
would
for
under
and
our
take,
but
the
operator
stem
cells
and
controllers
and
so
on,
Metformin
on
the
other
six,
because
if
the
Prometheus
operator
is
is
deployed
by
so
it
promises
to
broadband
operator,
it's
also
in
it
belongs
also
to
a
tax,
Tech
obserability,
for
instance,.
B
C
Yeah
sounds
fun:
database
yeah,
that's
that's
well,
I,
don't
know
if
positive
is
well,
possibly
is
a
good
fit,
but
it's
a
database
because
we
will
have
also
people
for
probably
time
scale
that
work
with
mySQL
and
also
posters,
ql,
there's
some
others
database
based
on
Maria,
DB
and
MySQL.
So
database
makes
more
sense
to
me
now.
The
problem
is
that
making
an
operator
that
works
with
all
the
database
is
not
something
that
probably
will
make
some
sense.
C
B
It
might
be,
but
so.
B
A
C
A
B
B
Forget
the
other
things:
I've
I
have
posted
there,
but
I've
posted
the
link
to
the
to
the
sandbox
inclusion
meeting,
and
you
can
reference
to
this
on
the
on
the
issue.
C
A
B
Will
try
to
reach
out
to
the
TLC
and
try
to
find
out
if
you're
really
really,
if
we
are
really
the
correct
tech
for
that.
B
Afterwards,
I
will
I
will
ping.
You.
C
A
C
Yeah,
well,
we
have
the
same
issue
with
we
asked
people
on
on
the
last
cubecon
in
Europe
from
the
there
was
a
project
about
secrets
and
how
we
can
handle
the
secret.
We
said:
no,
you
can
just
kind
of
like
a
secret
native
secret
on
kubernetes
okay,
so
we
have
a
native
secret
and
we
tested
it.
Oh
yeah
it
works,
so
the
secret
is
some
kind
of
creative
somewhere
out
there
outside
the
kubernetes
cluster
in
the
works
yeah.
It's
pretty
much
like
that,
and
it's
actually
really
nice
yeah.
A
It's
a
reasonable
pattern.
That's
like
what
cross
plain
does
it's.
You
know,
crunchy,
writes
it
down
to
a
secret.
It's
just
that
everybody.
Does
it
slightly
differently,
it's
a
different
name.
Do
you
reference
it
like
with
a
name
and
a
reference
to
a
secret?
Do
you
actually,
you
know,
put
something
in
line.
What's
the
key
names
things
like
that,.
B
C
That's
why
our
CRT
is
really
small,
just
great
when
he's
done
and
everything
is
by
default,
a
number
of
instances,
the
name
of
the
database
and
that's
it-
that's
the
smallest
one
and
we
are
working
actually
on
adding
more
stuff
more
on
the
community
side,
where
we
were
amazed,
because
we
are
only
I,
don't
know
two
months
out
and
we
already
have
big
PR's
uhuri
was
asking
for
adding
new,
Futures
and
stuff
like
that.
But
people
is
asking
why
it's
not
under
the
cncf.
It's
like
we
were
on
the
samples.
C
Now
we
are
not
on
the
samples
we
are
trying
to
go
well
and
we
need
to
Define,
and
the
problem
is
that
I
saw
I've,
been
reading
the
tax
dollar
stuff,
the
tag
up
delivery
and
it's
not
like
Define
it.
What
it
should
go
here
and
we
were
like
we
actually,
we
had
our
community
meeting
an
hour
ago,
and
we
talked
about
this
so
where
to
go.
Is
that
the
proper
place
and
everybody
was
trying
reading
and
trying
to
find
information?
It
was
like
we
don't
know,
that's
like
who
defines
that.
A
Yeah
good
feedback,
I
think
I
think
we're
working
on
that
in
the
cncf
in
general.
Make
it
a
little
easier
for
projects
to
find
their
way
that
we're
not
on
board.
C
Yeah,
it
would
be
easier
because,
anyway,
we
are
asking-
and
actually
my
all
colleagues
are
asking
on
other
places
too
and
trying
to
find
information
about
to
that
better
fit.
I,
don't
know,
there's
any
other
type
we
should
do.
You
can
advise
us,
besides
of
delivery
and
storage,
that
probably
we
can
make
some
feed
there.
B
Well,
I
think
it's
but
I
took
a
close
look
on
the
text
now
and
Tech
storage
also
is
responsible
for
the
for
the
project,
details
which
is
which
does
almost
the
same
for
my
SQL
as
far
as
I
can
see,
and.
C
A
C
B
Should
not
be
your
problem
to
find
out
where
you
belonged
to
so
yeah,
not
everybody.
A
A
B
Of
time
as
we
as
we
said
today,
we'll
help
them
it's
not
the
most
crowded
meeting.
B
A
I
see
that
they
I'm
looking
over
the
notes
from
the
last
tag
meeting
for
tag
storage,
it
looks
like
yeah
I
see
you
guys
over
here,
I
posted
it
and
I'll.
Add
it
in
our
notes.
Operator
does
not
use
staples
suggestion.
Please
put
in
the
tag
at
delivery.
Gabriella
thinks
Cloud
native
is
more
aligned
with
the
storage
tag.
Oh
okay,
that's
what
you
saw
too
Thomas.
A
Yeah
I
think
it
I
mean
it
definitely
there's
a
lot
with
tag.
Storage
I
mean
the
API
is
interesting
and
you
could
talk
with
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
that.
That's
one
of
the
things
I'm
trying
to
bring
in
this
tag.
You
know
talking
about
API
conventions
and
things
like
that.
So
I'll,
you
know
whatever
tag
it's
it
I'm
happy
to
talk
with
you
about
it
and
try
to
try
to
keep
an
eye
on
the
different
databases.
C
Whereas
it
really
interesting
on
making
good
interaction
with
other
apps
and
operators
inside
the
kubernetes
environment,
so
you
have
any
advice
of
any.
We
are
already
exposed
like
the
Prometheus
interface
or
exporting
metrics
and
everything,
but
we
would
like
to
have
more
feedback
and
actually
we've
implemented
the
metrics
exporter
without
not
actually
using
Primitives.
C
So
it's
more
nature
in
that
case,
so
people
can
actually
manage
more
easily,
not
using
sidecars,
because
for
security
issues,
some
people
tell
us
and
on
the
path
that
we
should
not
use
sidecar,
especially
because
we
were
developing
this
on
the
on
the
private
site.
First,
as
second
one
and
then
Enterprise
TV
and
some
customers
started
to
using
it
and
they
had
these
security
concerns
about
sidecars
and
adding
stuff
inside.
So
we
created
their
own,
our
own
exporter,
which
is
basically
based
on
Prometheus,
obviously
Primitives
exported
foreign,
but
internally.
C
A
C
That,
because
of
customers-
and
that's
also
why
we
decided
to
push
these
open
source,
we
will
be
pushing
for
the
last
year
so
yeah.
If
there's
any
other
thing,
we
can
do
thing
guys.
We
can
Implement
to
act
better
with
the
applications.
Environment
inside
kubernetes
would
be
great
to
have
that
those
ideas
we
can
put
them
in
I'm.
C
There's
some
people
that
is
not
on
our
parade,
that
is
doing
that
they
will
publish
some
kind
of
blog
posts,
I
think
next
week
talking
about
Cloud
native
PGE,
but
they
already
talked
about
all
the
others
operators.
The
problem
is
that
all
the
others
operators
use
external
apps
for
switch
over
in
the
tech
stuff,
and
we
don't
we
don't.
We
use
the
kubernetes
API
natively,
so.
C
Exactly
they
use
stuff
like
patroni
and
something
else,
and
we
don't
so.
You
cannot
compare
the
time
of
reaction
for
their
failures
and
everything
because
we
detect
the
parts
inside
we
would
literally
asking
about
school
we're
not
discussing.
So
it's
kubernetes
is
the
one
killing
the
pot.
It's
not
the
operator
not
like
the
other
way
around.
So
it's
not
so
easy
to
compare
the
operators.
A
B
C
C
So
that's
one
of
the
problems
with
patroni
inside
kubernetes,
because
in
the
in
the
virtual
machines
world
is
really
faster,
but
in
coordinates,
if
you
have
coordinates
that
detects
the
codes
that
is
manage
everything
white
using
statement
tools,
but
it's
a
different
approach
anyway,
that
that
I
base
you
one
of
the
blog
posts
that
they
talk
about
the
different
operators.
C
Qtb
is
the
other
one.
Qtv
is
actually
one
of
the
that
uses.
Many
databases
supports,
cost
less
electric
search,
MySQL
and
stuff
like
that,
but
yeah
they
are.
We
don't
know
why,
but
they
reached
they
started
to
to
compare
our
operator
with
others
without
us,
even
asking
for
it
yeah
cool
yeah.
It
is
thanks
anyway,.
B
Yes,
I
reached
out
to
someone
I'll
I'll
ping.
You,
after
after
I
got
something
yeah.
B
Okay,
otherwise
Josh
do
you
have
any
any
topic
or
I.
A
Mean
the
only
other
one
since
we
have,
since
we
dove
into
the
the
talks
stuff,
there
was
SRE
works
that
they
also
referred
to
us.
A
B
I
also
wanted
to
get
in
contact
with
them
because
they
belong
to
us.