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Okay,
actually
in
the
dock,
I'm
seeing
that
the
already
today's
basically
today's
coins
have
been
mentioned,
so
I
was
thinking
whether
it
has
entered
or
not.
Do
you
have
the
dock
with
you,
because
the
timing
on
the
dock
suggests
it
has?
It
has
started
last
hour.
A
You
mean
at
15,
UTC.
B
So
the
meeting
is:
oh
okay:
I
got
coupon.
D
B
B
B
A
Yeah
funny
I
I
just
see
time
given
at
the
Tag
app
delivery
repository,
which
says
16
UTC,
which.
E
A
It
looks
like
to
to
other
people
had
the
same
issue,
so
others
joint
as
well
at
the
wrong
time.
It's
a
so
right
now
so
I
missed.
A
It
was
called
avik
and
a
woman
now
I
forgot
her
name,
but
I
think
she
wrote
a
message
in
the
select:
no,
no,
not
a
message
but
ahiba
Eliot.
Oh.
E
Darn
well,
I'm,
sorry,
we
missed
folks,
yeah
I
would
have
I
would
have
come
on
later.
I
didn't
realize.
So
that's
just
an
ongoing
issue
and
sorry
about
that.
A
I
mean
so,
did
you
do
the
meeting
or
was
it
not.
E
A
Okay,
maybe
if
you
still
have
time
we
could
ping
the
other
two
people
that
joined,
and
maybe
we
can
just
do
it
now.
If
you
have
the
time
yeah.
E
I'll
post
on
how.
A
Do
you
want,
do
you
wanna,
maybe
in
the
tank
out
delivery,
so.
A
Yeah
they
try
to
eliminate
the
I'm
savings
and
time
changes
in
Europe
I'd
say
they
don't
make
any
progress
with
that
yeah.
E
E
All
right,
I
posted
in
there
yeah
I
was
I,
mean
I'll,
open
up
the
notes
and
we
could
take
notes.
The
main
things
were
I
wanted
people
to
take
a
look
at
you
know
your
your
clue.
Cuddle,
stuff,
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
go
through,
but
I
hope
too
soon.
E
I'm
looking
for
some
help
with
the
with
the
platforms,
Ouija
paper
call
that
people's
attention
and
then
there's
some.
You
know:
Potato
Head
pulled
your
issue
and
a
couple
other
ones
that
had
opened
there,
so
that
was
I'd
kind
of
put
that
on
the
agenda.
But
if
there
are
other
things
you
wanted
to
discuss.
A
From
my
site,
it's
mainly
the
clue,
cuddle
thing.
E
E
It
would
be
a
good
time,
although
I
won't
I
won't
be
here
on
that,
but
that
day
I'm
traveling
but
yeah
you
could
do
it.
Then
we
could
make
sure
Thomas
is
gonna,
be
there.
A
How
does
it
usually
work
should
I?
Add
that
to
the
again
no,
are
you.
E
Yeah,
you
want
to
just
put
it
on
the
agenda
for
next
time
and
maybe
post
it
well,
you
did
post
in
the
in
the
thing,
so
we
could
just
I'll
just
make
sure
that
Thomas
will
assembly
will
be
there
next
time
to
take
notes
and
record
it,
and
everything.
C
A
Depends
on
you,
if
you
want
to
I
mean
the
alternative
is
to
just
look
see
videos
that
are
also
posted,
because
if
I
would
present
now,
I
would
basically
do
the
same
thing.
That
I
did
there.
E
Yeah
I
mean
for
me,
I
think
I'm
fine,
give
me
a
little
more
time
to
review
asynchronously
and
then
you
could
present
you'll
get
you
know
I'd.
Rather
you
have
a
couple
more
people
here.
Yeah,
usually
till
next
time
makes
sense.
So
I'll
write
you
down.
Is
that
clue
cuddle
go.
A
To
block
and
if
you
get
a
chance
to
review
the
potato
hat,
pull
requests
until
that
point,
then
it's
I'll
just
say
you
might
have
more
questions,
then,
if
I
would
just
blindly
present
it.
C
E
A
E
It
was
it's
good
to
I,
was
thinking
about
you
know,
Conway's
law
and
how
I
think
Martin
Fowler
posted
something
about
a
couple
weeks
ago.
How,
if
you
have
disparate
teams,
you
better
plan
on
disparate
components
and
and
the
open
source
Community.
The
fact
that
none
of
us
have
met
for
so
long
meant
that
there's
just
so
many
similar
projects
kind
of
proceeding
in
parallel.
So
it
was
good
to
just
kind
of
finally
bring
people
together
and
find
some
synergies.
E
So
now
there's
you
know
what
comes
next
I
haven't
gone
deep
into
Club
cuddle,
clue
cuddle
yet,
but-
and
my
goal
will
be
to
kind
of
see
where
it
fits
in
the
picture.
Yeah,
hi,
avik,
sorry
that
there
was
a
a
I
was
on
an
hour
early,
so
yeah.
E
Yeah
but
I
don't
want
to
miss
the
chance
to
to
talk
to
people
that
actually
could
attend.
So
there's
not
a
huge
agenda
today.
B
E
Yeah,
so
that's
actually
exactly
so
I
kind
of
put
I
just
posted
up
the
notes
from
the
last
latest
meeting.
E
The
group
tends
to
kind
of
come
and
go
in
terms
of
how
busy
it
is,
especially
when
there's
some
big
projects
coming
in.
So
you
know
right
now,
clue
cuddle
you
know
was
brought
in
there's,
so
you
know
we
could
use
some
eyes
on
what
Alexander
contributed,
both
in
Potato
Head
and
the
and
the
submission
in
the
sandbox
repo
in
general,
potato.
That's
actually
kind
of
how
I
got
started.
It's
it's
a
library
of
scenarios
for
delivery.
E
You
know
there's
opportunity
to
kind
of
add
a
couple
things
there
or
make
sure
that
it's
you
know
complete.
So
if
you
want
to
like
look
at
those
issues,
I
put
that
on
our
on
our
list
and
then
I'm
seeking
contributors.
This
is
more
like
my
platforms,
Ouija,
which
we're
meeting
next
Wednesday
but
trying
to
define
the
core
capabilities
of
a
platform
really
like
at
a
technical
level.
E
You
know
getting
away
from
the
hype,
obviously,
but
you
know
we
kind
of
started
doing
that
in
the
in
the
little
Meetup
we
had
at
kubecon,
we
kind
of
posited.
You
know
here's
six
or
seven
different
capabilities.
You
know
try
to
bring
in
a
few
people
to
talk
about
each
and
find
some
synergies.
E
But
now
we
kind
of
I
I
would
like
us
to
get
something
done
in
in
the
next
couple
months.
You
know
to
put
a
stake
in
the
ground,
so
I'm
looking
for
input
on
that
yeah,
that's
kind
of
what
I,
what
I
have.
B
Okay,
so
it
works
like
we
have
a
some
action
items
related
to
a
specific
topic
which
this
time
is,
the
cube
cover,
requests
that
you
sent
over
there
and
what
they
do.
Well,
they
do
right,
Potato,
Head
and
you
just
you
know
like
see
them
are
seeking,
like
the
the
work
group
seeking
coding,
the
coding
or
just
coding,
you
know
like,
because
you
know
like
I
would
love
to
have
just
putting
a
contribution,
but
any
any
other
way
to
you
know
like
what
what
the
what
are
all
the
the
possibilities.
E
And
also
the
Potato
Head
is
coding,
yes,
but
the
platform
engine
you
know
defining
a
cloud
native
platform
is
is
more
writing
you
know
and
iterating
together
on
what
are
the
components
like
in
that
dock,
which
is
linked
to
this
platform?
Engineering
dock,
which
I
can
post
in
here?
E
There's
a
there's
a
couple
different
brainstorms
going
on,
as
that
I
just
posted
that
in
here,
in
general,
kind
of
the
the
purpose
of
the
tag
is
to
help
projects
find
their
place
in
the
cncf
landscape
and,
at
the
same
time,
two
other
functions.
That
kind
of
introduce
projects
to
each
other.
I
kind
of
see
us
as
like.
E
A
community
of
communities
like
make
sure
maintainers
are
aware
of
what
other
maintainers
are
doing
and
facilitate
introductions
and
synergies
and
then
the
up
so
there's
towards
the
projects
and
then
the
other
side
is
towards
the
users
like
one
of
our
rules
is
bringing
user
feedback
to
the
project,
it's
kind
of
like
PMS,
so
that
you
so
like
Alex
and
you
or
anybody
else.
That's
working
on
a
project
you
know
can
learn
from
from
the
end
users.
E
So
that's
why
we
have
like
project
presentations
like
we
did
Acorn
a
couple
weeks
ago.
We
had
Carvel
a
week
ago.
You
know
others
of
Humana
Tech
presented
their
score
thing
last
week
and
and
hopefully
Alex
you
can
present
clue
a
clue
cuddle.
The
next
time.
E
You
know
I
also
help
with
the
tag
all
up,
but
you
know
it's
I'm
focused
on
that
platform.
Space
foreign.
A
A
A
E
There
are
recordings
and
they
should
be
published.
It's
a
volunteer
thing,
so
we
sometimes
struggle
with
that.
I
was
just
actually
reaching
out
to
Eloise
and
Thomas
to
see
if
they
could
help
with
that
I'm
working
on
making
the
process
a
little
and
there's
sometimes
a
little
bit
more
processed
than
there
should
be,
but
like
now,
I
have
access
I've
actually
been
pushing
for
that.
So
you
know
making
sure
that
the
meeting
schedule
is
updated
like
today,
like
I,
didn't
I
could
have.
E
If
we
had
an
official
calendar,
then
I
wouldn't
have
been
an
hour
off
it's
a
little
confusing
and
the
same
thing
with
the
meeting
stuff.
If
we
need
to
if
I
need
to
get
access
to
the
YouTube
channel
or
wherever
this
stuff
is
getting
saved,
which
I
don't
have
right
now,
but
I
can
find
out
and
we
can
get
it
actually
I'll
put
that
on
the
list
and
I'll
put
that
in
the
notes.
Let's
figure
out
how
to
get
it.
E
Down
I'll
follow
up
on
that
process.
Meeting
videos
publish
yeah.
We
also
have
a
couple
from
the
tag
meeting
that
we
had
at
kubecon
last
week.
Carvel
again
also
Victor
and
I
talked
about
cross-plane
and
kubernetes
as
a
platform.
E
There
are
a
couple
other
ones
there
too,
so
yeah
open
feature.
So
we
have
those
recordings.
Eloise
has
them,
so
we
just
have
to
let
them
process
and
upload.
It.
C
C
E
Yeah
otherwise
I
guess
you
know
nice
to
meet
you
Heba
and
all
of
you,
I
guess,
I
didn't
give
him.
Give
you
a
chance
to
introduce
yourself.
I
was
a
little
flustered
because
I,
because
I
missed
the
time.
E
D
Yeah
so
basically
I
I
was
I
was
looking
for
Yeah,
so
basically
hi
Josh,
hi,
Alexander,
hi
Eva,
so
I
was
basically
looking
for
some
tag
groups
in
which
I
can
learn
some
platform
engineering
stuffs
because
I
have
been
exploring
some
of
the
cicd
tools,
as
well
as
some
of
the
observability
tools
in
the
past
and
now
I
wanted
to
learn.
D
Some
of
the
platform
engineering
tools
like
I
first
came
across
Captain
I
was
actually
working
to
solve
some
minor
bugs
in
that
code
base,
so
that
interested
me
to
watch
the
project
and
finally,
in
the
kubecon
last
week,
I
came
across
this
Tag
app
delivery
team,
as
well
as
I
was
exploring
Carvel
and
also
some
of
the
other
tools
which
I
found
all
are
mentioned
in
the
documentation
of
this
team.
So
I
think
that
most
of
the
tools
that
I
am
looking
for
to
learn
and
work
with
in
this
team.
We
discuss
all
those
things.
E
Yeah,
it
would
be
really
interesting
to
get
your
take
on
those
projects
and
and
how
you
fit
them
together
in
openshift
or
in
other
places
like
I
said,
like
kind
of
the
goal
of
the
tag
is
to
rationalize
or
one
of
those
rationalize
all
the
projects.
So,
if
you
have,
you
know
some
takes
on
that,
be
interesting
to
share
or
hear.
B
Yeah
sure
you
can
go
first
meeting
all
I
think
I
I've
already
met
Josh
in
person,
so
yeah.
It
was
great,
so
basically
I'm
trying
to
find
my
way
to
get
involved
in
in
the
right
or
appropriate
tag
for
for
me
and
try
to
help
with
the
community
as
much
as
I
can
I
mean
by
coding
which
debates
by
just
you
know
like
going
through
different
projects
and
seeing
you
know
like
each
project.
B
What
is
that
you
know
they
can
provide,
and
you
know
like
the
missing
areas
and
how
we
can
help
here.
B
E
Awesome,
thank
you
so
much
Eva
I
I
mean
there's.
Definitely
a
couple
things
I've
been
looking
at
at
Microsoft
like
Dapper,
we
had
the
some
of
the
Dapper
folks
chat
with
us
last
week,
been
talking
about
your
equivalent
of
ack
Hazard
service
operator
and
how
that
fits
into
cross-plane
and
things
yeah
and
it'll
be
great
to
I'm
an
old
Microsoft
D2.
Actually,
I
worked
there
for
a
while
it'd
be
great
to
have
Microsoft's
participation.
E
I
did
post
I
mean
the
most
active
stuff
right
now
in
the
group
is,
is
the
platform
stuff,
so
I
did
post
right
now
the
link
to
the
Ouija
platforms
group
where
I
did
put
up
you
know
you
can
look
at
the
pinned
item
there,
where
it's
kind
of
all
the
stuff
that
we're
looking
at,
which
is
that
paper,
which
is
the
priority
for
me,
but
then
I
I
also
posted,
like
four
areas
that
you
know
maybe
I
I
could
use
help
if
you,
if
you
all,
want
to
pursue
kind
of
you
know
seeking
synergies
or
or
identifying
projects.
E
I
put
up
those
four
categories
which
you
know
kind
of
came
up
for
me
last
week
at
kubecon,
but
yeah
I'm,
kind
of
thinking
that,
let's
define
you,
know
the
10
core
capabilities
of
a
platform.
Whether
you
know
observability,
like
you
said,
Avi
can
resource
provisioning.
You
know
cross-plated
things
like
that.
E
Like
identities,
I,
don't
know,
there's
a
lot
of
different
parts,
but
within
each
of
those
like
resource
compositions,
was
one
that
you
know
really
came
up
for
me
last
week
with
craftix
and
a
couple
people
from
the
craftix
team
talk
to
us
cross
playing
was
you
know.
Very
popular
people
were
talking
about
service
catalogs,
you
know
with
with
kind
of
reduced
or
projected
apis
to
make
life
easier
for
their
app
devs
yeah.
E
So
that
seems
I
mean
even
like
to
me,
I,
think
of
like
azure's
resource
manager
and
the
functions
that
it
has,
for
you
know,
composing
a
lot
of
resources
and
exposing
them
more
simply.
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
could
compare.
So
that
kind
of
thing.
If
somebody
wants
to
pick
up
it's
kind
of
self-driven,
but
you
know,
there's
not
really
a
standards
body
or
conventions
body
for
cloud.
E
So
if
somebody
you
know,
wants
to
pick
up
and
run
and
kind
of
help,
these
projects
be
aware
of
each
other
or
you
know,
reduce
it's
all
about
reducing
cognitive
load.
I
feel
like
for
our
end
users,
the
platform
Engineers
that
are,
you
know
using
20
different
projects
and
trying
to
you
know
even
for
themselves
trying
to
you
know,
understand
what
fits
where
so.
E
Alex
I
didn't
give
you
a
chance
I,
just
kind
of
because
you
have
clue
cuddle.
So
you
know,
but
do
you
want
to
share
you
know
other?
Is
there
anything
else
you
want
to
share
with
us.
A
Not
really
I
mean
I
can't
introduce
myself.
Maybe
I
should
do
that.
So
that's
my
name
yeah
my
name.
My
name
is
Alex
I'm,
a
self-employed
software
developer
contractor
and
consultant
and
putting
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
and
resources
into
open
source
development.
One
of
the
tools
that
I'm
mainly
developing
is
the
clue
cattle
tool.
A
I
call
it
the
using
glue
to
put
together
large
deployments
proposing
of
customize
and
help
and
managing
everything
in
a
way
that
it's
manageable
again
and
yeah.
This
tool
I
believe
it's
a
pretty
stable
and
usable
tool
already
and
I'm
at
the
point
where
I
start
to
kind
of
promote
it
and
try
to
figure
out
how
it
fits
into
the
cncf
landscape.
Then
I
figured
out
okay,
there
is
a
Attack
app
delivery,
for
example,
which
is
probably
the
first
point
to
get
in
contact
with
which
I'm
doing
now.
A
I
did
the
sandbox
application
just
a
few
days
ago
and
yeah
and
I'm
I'm,
actually,
the
the
second
one
doing
the
applications
through
the
issue
system,
which
is
nice
yeah
I,
did
a
demo
inside
the
flag
channel
is
a
link
to
the
demo.
That
can
be
watched.
I
did
a
implementation
in
the
potato
hat
delivery
scenarios.
A
So
avik
you
seem
to
be
interested
in
such
scenarios,
so
maybe
you
can
also
look
into
it
if
you're
interested
I
think
the
Potato
Head
is
actually
one
of
the
best
projects
allowing
to
compare
everything,
because
it's
very
hard
to
figure
out
what
all
these
different
delivery
tools
are
doing,
how
they
are
doing
it,
whereas
the
differences-
and
this
is
the
first
project
where
it's
actually
visible,
like
okay,
okay,
this
is
how
you
do
it
with
plain
customize
and
then
there
is
Helm
and
then
there's
flux
and
then
there's
this
and
that
that's
the
first
time
really
being
able
to
compare
the
same
thing
done
in
different
styles.
A
E
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
that
feedback
on
Potato
Head,
yeah,
that
when
we
know
that
people
are
using,
it
I've
seen
it
in
a
couple
like
LinkedIn
posts
and
stuff
that
that's
encouraging,
because
it's
yeah
and
there's
a
couple
things
that
could
that
we
could
use
there.
Actually
I
was
even
talking
with
somebody
before
kubecon
about
like
Acorn
and
was
the
other
one.
E
Maybe
Porter
like
how
we
would
bundle
up
because
as
the
microservices
one,
which
is
not
really
a
directory
to
to
image
mapping
so
like
build
packs
or
s2i,
which
is
Red,
Hats
Tech
on
that
aren't,
aren't
natural
fits,
so
I'd
be
curious,
like
if
these
other
new
bundlers
could
help
and
that.
C
D
E
So
yeah
people
are
looking
to
contribute
code,
that's
that's
a
great
place
and
I
could
use
some
more
maintainers
right
now.
You
know
Thomas
and
always
will
help
there
too,
and
I'll
try
to
get
to
to
stuff,
and
if
you
can
get
I
mean
we
could.
If
you
contribute
enough,
we
could
help.
You
become
a
maintainer
too
yeah
I.
B
A
I
can
help
in
some
way
just
reach
out.
I
can
also
do
the
reviews.
I
can
test
stuff
or
fixed
stuff.
So.
E
Yeah
I
mean
the
last
couple
issues
that
I
just
I
just
think
of
that
I
have
put
up
now
for
because
somebody
had
asked
me:
we
don't
really
there's
two
things:
one.
We
don't
have
a
scenario
for
demonstrating
delivery
of
just
like
a
single
app
because
we
took
that
out
the
microservices
one.
But
even
if
you
know
we
don't
necessarily
expect
people
to
deploy
a
single
app,
you
know
monolith,
but
a
single
repo
as
a
single
service
or
a
single
component
is
is
kind
of
valuable.
So
that's
one
of
the
recent
issues
that
I
opened.
E
That's
pretty
simple,
probably
just
doubling
the
cube,
cuddle,
Helm
and
customized
examples,
but
applying
them
for
the
single
service,
because
right
now,
they're
just
for
the
microservice
and
then
the
other
one
is.
We
don't
really
have
examples
of
build,
interestingly,
like
the
build
happens
through
GitHub
action
and
it
bundles
up
an
image
and
puts
it
into
GitHub
container
registry.
And
then
all
the
Liberty
scenarios
are
based
on
the
existing
container
images
that
I
didn't
even
think
about
this.
E
A
Yeah
you
mean
like
different
kinds
of
pipelines,
doing
the
actual,
build
building
from
local
buildings
through
a
make
fire
buildings
through
actions
or
what
do.
E
You
mean
yeah
like
build
packs
or
like
source
to
image
or
whatever
everyone
else
has.
You
know
Docker
source
to
images,
Red
Hats,
that's
why
it
keeps
I
keep
thinking
of
it.
It's
called
s2i,
it's
okay,
build
packs
is
probably
more
interesting,
but
then
Acorn
and
an
image
package
from
Carvel
and
Porter
and
cnap
like
how
would
those
which
we
haven't
updated
the
port.
There
is
a
porter
folder
there,
but
it
hasn't
been
updated.
E
Those
will
be
interesting
to
add
to
so
I
guess
those
are
two
areas
in
Potato
Head
that
could
use
some
eyes.
Some
work.
C
B
Things
like
a
lot
of
work
and
the
good
work
actually
so
there's
a
lot
of
varieties
to
just
perfect,
and
this
is
built
actually
yeah
I'll
try
to
find
the
you
know,
like
my
first,
you
know
like
the
always
like
the
first,
the
first
time
with
the
hard
time
once
you
get
started,
everything
would
be
easy
after
that,
so
I
think
I
will
take
care
of
one
of
the
issues
you
mentioned
and
I
will
just
let
you
know
that.
B
E
B
E
A
Do
you
know
if
it's
okay
to
just
create
channels
in
the
cncf
slack,
can
you
without
yeah?
Everyone
can
do
that.
Well,.
E
E
That's
an
Amy
question:
Amy
scavarda
parent,
so
yeah.
If,
if
you
create
one
which
doesn't
like
it,
she'll
probably
tell
you
so
I,
don't
know
I.
A
So
first
I
was
like
okay,
maybe
I
should
ask
someone,
but
in
the
end
I
I
have
the
opinion
that
if
a
system
allows
you
to
do
that,
then
it's
probably
how
it
was
meant
to
be,
and
if
not,
it
should
be
fixed.
So.
E
Yeah,
it
seems
I
mean
what
I
found
is
if
you
can
step
up
and
then
help
out
cncf
the
technical
side
of
it
could
use
some
help.
In
fact,
like
I,
don't
know
I
guess
you
know
be
interesting
to
hear
what
your
your
takes
on.
It
are,
but
sometimes
I,
think
of
cncf
as
like
the
the
PM
side
of
of
kubernetes,
like
we're
trying
to
rationalize
all
these
projects
and
products
together.
C
A
The
interacting
with
ctncf
is
quite
new.
For
me,
to
be
honest,
so
far,
I
mean
I,
think
it's
a
typical
story
just
using
projects
from
the
cncf
but
figuring
out
what
it
actually
means
to
to
join
the
cncf
and
contribute
and
what
is
called
when
you
completely
give
a
project
to
the
cncf.
E
That
that
sounds
very
altruistic,
I'm,
not
sure
it's
only
that,
but
yeah
I
mean
this
partly
me
trying
to
to
make
it
more
than
I
mean
right
now,
it's
kind
of
a
flat
structure.
You
come
in
and
there's
some
basic
stuff
that
you
get
but
trying
to
find
synergies
and
and
rationalize
it.
It's
kind
of
what
the
platforms
movement
is
in
general
I
kind
of
feel
like.
E
Okay,
well,
it
was
really
nice
to
meet
you
all
and
I
hope
to
see
you
asynchronously
offline
online
I'm
I'm
on
I'm
around
you.
Can
you
know
ping
me
DM
me
anytime,
I.