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CNCF TOC Meeting 2021-01-26
A
All
right
we
are
now
recording.
Please
go.
B
C
Where
I
did
have
a
little
bit
of
a
conversation
with
alexis
about
this
right
at
the
beginning,
when
he
was
first
proposing
it,
I
think
the
main
thing
here
is:
they
wanted
a
neutral
place
for
a
bunch
of
companies
to
collaborate,
and
if
that
isn't
what
the
sandbox
is
for,
I
don't
know
what
it
is.
Yeah.
D
I
spoke
to
him
the
other
day
and
it
was
like
it's
very
much
that
they
want
to
make
sure
that
the
working
group
produces
stuff
that
might
live
longer
than
the
working
group
which
might
not
potentially
last
for
that
long
in
the
end.
But
they
want
somewhere
to
collaborate.
That's
ongoing
past
that
and
maintain
the
things.
E
D
D
G
G
C
F
C
Be
less
confusing,
maybe
this
speaks
to
a
slightly
broader
problem
of
you
know:
sort
of
bureaucracy
potentially
getting
in
the
way
of
just
people
getting
on
and
doing
work.
So
I
think
when
they
set
this
up
yeah,
they
had
four
or
five
different
companies
who
wanted
to
get
involved
and
wanted
to
get
on
and
work,
and
I
think
they
just
didn't
want
to
go
through
the
rigmarole
of
a
sig
and
or
you
know
they
were
like.
We
just
need
to
just
need
a
github
repo.
We
could
just
get
on
with
it.
C
I
don't
know
whether
that
says
something
about
the
way.
Six
are
managed.
C
A
Oh,
hang
on
I've
put
a
note
in
here
that
they
do
actually
have
their
own
repo
over
under
sig
app
delivery.
I
don't
know.
D
D
G
A
E
So
it's
like
a
it's
like
a
gateway
to
the
lynn,
beat
projects
to
install
them
easily
easily
on
kubernetes,
so
they've
put
like
similar
projects
like
longhorn
and
rook.
I
don't
think
like
they're,
exactly
like
longhorn,
because
lone
horn
is
like
the
antitune
that
contains
everything
here.
It's
like
it's
it's
enablement
for
olympiad
projects.
E
I
Assad,
do
you
have
any
opinion
about
this?
I've
certainly
I
mean
I've,
certainly
known
limbet
and
drbd
for
a
long
time.
I
some
I
until
I
saw
this
project
I
haven't.
I
surprisingly
I
haven't
you
know
I
haven't
encountered
it
in
the
kubernetes
ecosystem.
I'm
a
little
surprised
given
how
how
how
famous
the
ibd
was.
F
F
C
I
C
I
C
I
I
would
think
that
would
be
a
great
thing
if
they're
actually
good
operators
that
could
bring
popular
workloads
on
top
of
kubernetes
and
and
then
I
to
be
honest,
some
of
these
operators
if
they
operate
as
just
a
pattern
right
so
so,
depending
on
how
much
business
logic
goes
into
it
and
if
they're
so
sophisticated,
they
could
easily
dwarf
some
of
the
platform
components.
So
I
don't.
I
guess
I'm
not
sure.
F
C
I
F
I'd
say
again
like
I
have
no
objections
for
moving
this
to
sandbox.
We
have
a
number
of
csi
drivers
and
even
the
kubernetes
repo.
I
think
it's
the
the
question
will
be
if
they
want
to
move
any
of
these
individual
projects
to
an
incubation
level.
C
J
I
I
G
C
D
K
E
I
kind
of
feel
like
it's
for
the
future.
Maybe
we
can
introduce
an
extra
column
for
when
the
github
repository
was
created,
like
I
always
derive
this
information
myself
apis,
I
feel
like
that
would
be
useful.
D
C
C
All
right
do
we
want
to
go
to
a.
C
C
All
right,
that's
probably
enough
that
it
doesn't
pass.
I
guess
you
can
move
on.
A
He
never
got
back
to
me
and
the
challenge
is
that
he
put
his
name
instead
of
the
project
name
and
it's
not
exceptionally
clear.
So
the
repository.
D
K
D
Also,
a
one-person
project,
that's
very
new.
Oh
it
says
it
has
two
contributors
but
they're.
Actually,
the
same
person
also
also
november.
The
15th.
E
E
C
I
M
Yeah,
I
guess
I
guess
what
I'm,
but
I
want
to
say
well,
that
is
all
very
true
and
possible.
I
suspect
that
we're
going
to
be
effectively
dealing
with
more,
not
quite
spam,
but
then
we
are
going
to
be
dealing
with
the
opposite
problem,
but
I'm
just
wondering
maybe
just
a
fact
then,
rather
than
a
hard
hard
guideline
like
yeah,
we
generally
expect
you
know
one
of
or
three
of
the
following
sticks.
I
H
C
C
M
I
mean
maybe
requesting
testimonials
from
two
users
or
something
as
part
of
the
form.
You
know
at
least
force
somebody
to
go,
find
somebody
who's
willing
to
write
like
a
three
three
sentences
about
why
it's
cool
or
something.
C
C
A
I'm
a
little
concerned
that
the
forum
is
going
to
get
a
little
too
long,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
can't
add
things
so
we'll
take
this.
D
Games
framework
called
default,
which
has
a
license
that
I'm
just
trying
to
read,
but
I'm
just
trying
to
which
is
a
non-commercial
lesson,
so
I
I'm
I
would
I'm
really
unsure
about
this.
I
mean
it's
like
so
it's
based
on
a
an.
C
Folks,
so
do
we
want
to.
G
C
H
O
I
So
it's
a
web
security
firewall
right!
That's
yeah!
That's
interesting!
I
I
don't!
I
don't
know.
Are
there
any
other
web
security
firewalls
in
our
space
here
web
application
power?
Sorry.
D
B
A
G
Yes,
I
think
these
folks
present
that
did
not
present,
I
mean
they.
This
is
a
submission
that
came
back
right.
M
G
A
We
had
a
question
around
spiffy
spire
addressed
that.
C
O
Gotcha
do
y'all
remember
what
the
what
the
gap
was.
G
C
Yes,
it
looks
like
it's
kind
of
compatible
with
you
know
it's
an
alternative
to
spire
and
it
looks
like
they've
kind
of
concentrated
on
some
of
the
more
kind
of
enterprising
features.
Like
tendency
support,
I
guess
multi-tenancy
there's
a
ui.
D
D
C
C
K
K
A
Chris
you've
dropped
something
in
chat,
context
or
explainer.
G
I
G
I
Looking
at
looking
at
their
website,
it's
still
still
a
member
of
cnc.
I
mean
yeah.
I
I
C
G
D
G
C
C
E
Also,
relatively
new,
relatively
new
project,
I'm
looking
at
the
at
the
top
commuters.
Oh
no,
it's
march,
31st
2019..
So
it's
been
a.
C
G
G
D
D
O
I
wonder
like
what
the
story
is
like
is
this:
maybe
an
internal
project
that
they
moved
over
is
that
why
there's
just
one
very,
very
large,
commit
I'd
really
like
to
understand
more
look.
E
At
that,
if
you
look
at
the
github
3
in
master,
it
shows
300
commands
and
some
of
them
emerge.
Some
of
them
are
coming
from,
like
the
users
that
are
not
a
part
of
github,
like
seems
like
there's
more
but
yeah
there
is
a.
D
Maybe
it
was
not
on
github
and
most
of
the
committees
that
just
don't
have
a
case.
Would.
C
E
M
M
G
F
C
We
definitely
want
them
to
rename,
or
do
we
want
to
ask
kubernetes
if
they
have
a
concern.
F
G
C
O
D
So
yeah
I
mean
it's
been
languishing
in
docker
so
and
everyone
has
their
own
forks
of
it.
So
I've
basically
invited
we've
now
appointed
maintainers
from
get
lab
and
github
and
harbour
and
digital
ocean
who
are
all
using
it
in
production.
So
hopefully
we
can
kind
of
unfor
un
unfork
it
all
and
get
people
contributing
again
by
being
at
cncf.
So,
and
I
was
planning
to
move
it
to
apply
for
incubation
pretty
soon
because
it's
a
you
know
it's
a
six-year-old
project
that
is
in
yeah
reduction,
use
everywhere.
Definitely.
D
I
we
don't
have
a
we
don't.
It
needs
a
new
org
name
because
it
hasn't
got
its
own,
but-
and
I
have
no
idea,
but
I
I
kind
of
tried
to
think
about
renaming
it.
I
kind
of
like
distribution
for
historical
reasons
now,
because
it's
always
been
called
that
and
I
kind
of
come
around
to
it,
because
I
was
thinking
like
it's
a
totally
new
name,
but
I
think
maybe
an
org
name.
D
That's
like
clearer,
like
you
know
something
about
registry
or
something
might
be
good,
but
it's
kind
of,
but
I'm
not
really
attached.
If
the
maintainers
want
to
rename
it
or
everyone
anyone
wants
to
rename
it.
I
don't
mind,
but
you
know
it's
always
been
distribution.
It's
kind
of
the
people
who
use
it,
and
now
it
is
distribution
and
oci
and
things
it's.
G
C
Yeah,
should
we,
I
think
we
could
stop
the
recording.
Do
we
want
to
just
take
a
couple
of
minutes
to
go.