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CNCF TOC Meeting 2020-01-21
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So
a
couple
of
votes
to
talk
about
quick
review
of
the
new
sandbox
annual
review
process.
Tsa
elections
are
about
to
happen.
Who
knows
you
may
find
a
completely
different
lineup
next
month
and
then
hopefully
parents
will
be
having
some
marvelous
ideas,
hang
around
Sinkin,
Trebek's,
okay,
so
so
updates
we
had
two
updates.
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B
And
we've
also
approved
the
thing
around
increasing
the
number
of
TOC
sponsors
to
three
at
the
point
where
the
TOC
becomes
11
members,
rather
than
nine,
which
happens
after
the
election
cycle
that
we're
about
to
talk
about
yes,
so
that
should
just
be
a
minor
change
where
it
says
to
sandbox
sponsors.
It
was
a
three
sandbox
sponsors,
okay
and
actually
any
ya
know:
let's
carry
on
yeah,
okay,
so
sandbox
and
review
process.
We
actually
I,
don't
know
any
if
you're
responsible
for
this
right,
but
I
think
it's
very
nice.
Yes,
this.
B
Yeah
and
we're
basically
asking
the
sandbox
projects
to
complete
a
short
set
of
questions,
just
to
keep
the
TOC
informed
about
what
the
state
of
the
project
is,
and
that
would
be
circulated
publicly.
So
anyone
can
comment
on
it
raised
any
concerns
and
the
key
thing
for
the
TOC
is
for
us
to
be
saying.
Well,
is
this
project
actually
at
a
point
where
we
want
to
try
and
move
it
into
incubation?
B
A
Opportunity
I
was
waiting
for
this
meeting
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
everybody
had
like
you
know
any
questions
to
be
able
to
raise
here.
Anything
like
that
and
I
will
work
on
being
able
to
make
sure
that
that
spreadsheet
is
public.
So
people
can
see
like
when
they're
up
for
annual
reviews,
great.
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Happy
to
be
able
to
field
questions
from
mailing
lists
if
people
have
questions
so
I
put
a
link
directly
over
so
that
everyone
knows
like
here
is
all
of
the
questions
that
we
are
asking
so
again,
we
don't
have
to
be
able
to
have
like
you
know.
What
are
we
asking
for
we're
asking
for
this
listen
trick,
taken
directly
from
the
github
page
that
Michelle
put
together.
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A
B
B
C
D
C
I
know
how
business
is
run
around
these
parts,
all
right,
hi
everyone
for
those
that
don't
know
me.
My
name
is
Paris
I
work
at
Google
I
spent
the
last
two
years.
As
the
chair
of
kubernetes
contributor
experience.
I
did
emeritus
myself
out
Wednesday
for
new
new
life
into
the
sig.
If
you
will
so
where
I
wanted.
What
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
all
today
is
back
in
cube.
C
If
you
will
even
the
human
part
to
it,
however,
I
do
know
get
and
markdown.
We
can
argue
how
technical
I
am
later
so
anyway
go
ahead
and
flip
that
slide
Amy.
So
it's
like
the
first
things.
First,
most
people
that
I've
pitched
this
to
or
like
tell
me
not
another
meaning.
Yes,
it
is
another
meeting.
There
is
no
current
Intel
limited
intentional
space
for
ciencia
project
maintainers.
Yes,
there's
a
mailing
list,
CN
CF
community
groups.
You
see
that,
because
a
lot
of
that
conversation
happens
on
the
TOC
list,
curious
about
upstream
end
users.
C
We
either
have
those
come
to
sig
meetings
direct
and
folks.
You
know
think
that
that's
not
necessarily
the
place
for
them
or
user
groups
just
trying
to
figure
out
where
end
users
fit
into
kind
of
the
upstream
process.
If
you
will
and
I
know,
individual
TOC
folks
and
ciencia
folks
definitely
help
with
that
as
well,
but
just
kind
of
coming
up
with
some
intentional
programs
to
help
those
folks
out
I
think
would
be
super
beneficial
to
this
group.
C
So
this
is
where
that
that
gap,
kind
of
comes
in
with
contributor
experience
with
you
know,
figuring
out
some
of
that
automation
and
how
to
make
maintain,
errs
easier,
so
they're,
not
uploading
sick
meetings
every
day
and
things
along
those
lines.
The
other
thing
go
ahead
and
Amy
us
what
yeah
now
yeah
the
other
thing
is
like
who
is
is
going
to
benefit.
We
just
talked
about
the
end
user
community,
for
instance,
but
this
can
also
benefit
CN
CF
projects.
So,
for
instance,
we
were
just
talking
about
the
sandbox
and
certain
criteria.
C
Points
to
to
graduate
out
of
the
sandbox
and
I
see
a
lot
of
confusion
there
around
what
it
means
to
have
company
diversity,
and
there
are
things
so
we
can
set
up
early
on
and
help
maintain
errs
with
I
think
where
they
can
understand
that
a
little
bit
better
and
have
some
processes
in
place,
and
things
like
that.
That
would
help
them
think
about
that
ahead
of
time
and
then,
of
course,
the
n
CF
SIG's.
So
it
had
a
sort
of
meta
level.
C
Excuse
me
sort
of
about
a
meta
level
where
we
can
help
out
with
like
organizational
structures,
terminology
like
the
definition
of
a
contributor,
for
instance,
and
things
like
that
at
a
very
high
level.
The
one
thing
that
I
did
want
to
call
out,
especially
as
out
of
scope
and
the
the
Charter
Lynne
is
linked
in
inside
of
the
slide
right
here.
Is
that
actual
day-to-day
operations?
That's
what
we
do
do
the
day-to-day
operations
and
kubernetes
at
that
sig
level,
but
that's
where
the
work
is
being
done
for
that
project.
C
So,
for
this
sake
in
particular,
this
sake
would
really
work
on
things
like
researching
best
practices
for,
say,
contributor
guides,
best
practices
on
running,
open
meetings,
outreach
strategies,
contributor
growth
to
bots
or
not
about.
As
far
as
github
is
concerned,
we
could
probably
even
get
like
a
github
collective
of
maintainer
x'
together.
Things
like
that.
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
on
kind
of
where
my
ideas
were
flowing
with
this
and
mission
and
who
the
stakeholders
are,
and
things
like
that.
C
All
right
Amy
next
slide,
so
this
is
just
the
beginning
phases.
Obviously
this
isn't
you
know
me
asking
for
a
vote
or
anything
along
those
lines.
This
is
I
would
love
to
build
it
up
and
down
the
Charter.
The
Charter
right
now
is
extremely
broad.
I
won't
lie
to
you.
It's
broad,
because
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I'm
hitting
a
lot
of
the
use
cases
that
we
currently
have
at
the
CN
CF
ecosystem
level.
C
So
there
is
a
doodle
poll
in
the
slides
for
your
interest
again,
I
think
what
we
work
on
in
this
sig
really
has
to
do
with
two
things
that
I'd
like
to
again
pare
down,
one
of
them
being
the
focus
and
the
priorities
from
discovery.
But
the
second
thing
is:
who
shows
up
to
do
the
work
that
obviously
an
open
source
really
determines
your
priorities,
so
this
is
actually
a
great
way
to
get
a
lot
of
your
other
folks
involved
in
upstream
too.
C
So
my
background
is
definitely
untraditional
and
a
lot
of
people
in
in
kubernetes
contributor
experience
some
untraditional
background.
So
if
you
have
folks
at
your
employer's,
you
know
project
managers,
product
product,
folks,
whoever
and
they
currently
deal
with
humans
and,
like
you
know,
working
with
human
processes
and
automation.
This
is
kind
of
a
good
sake
for
them
to
get
involved
and
help
us
out
an
ecosystem
level.
C
And
yes,
I'd
love
to
pontificate
over
this
name,
because
C&C,
f,
ckin'
Trebek's,
will
absolutely
get
confused
with
contributor
experience
at
the
kubernetes
level.
There
are
some
things
that
I
was
thinking
about
like
cig
community
strategy
or
something
I
think
can
name.
Confusion
is
probably
one
of
the
things
that
lead
us
the
most
to
things
not
getting
adopted,
and
growth
and
stuff
just
because
of
confusion,
yeah
I
know
I
thought
I
said
nicely.
C
Matt
chat,
that
said
sake,
project
contributors,
the
idea
I
at
one
point
last
night,
I
was
even
like
sig
contributors,
say
humans
like
and
I
thought
about
seeing
governance
as
well,
but
I
know
that
there's
another
governance
term
in
engineering
and
in
technology,
so
as
I
didn't
necessarily
want
to
get
that
conflated
as
well.
But
governance
would
obviously
be
a
piece
here
and
I
know
that
CN
CF
also
provides
government
governance
Council
to
so
figuring.
We
could
all
work
together
on
that
too,
but.
A
Thank
you,
Paris
I
know
that
one
of
the
things
that
projects
really
struggle
with
and
I'm
seeing
it
in
chat
as
well
as
being
able
to
talk
about
like
how
do
we
get
new
contributors,
and
it
feels
like
this
particular
group
is
really
going
to
be
like
you
know,
a
good
focus
for
that.
Okay,
can
you
speak
toward
the
scope
of
that
yeah.
C
Yeah
I
mean
that's:
if
that's
what
we
decide
in
discovery,
that
can
be
one
of
the
major
working
groups,
ideally
here,
if
you're,
if
anybody
on
the
line
is
familiar
with
kubernetes.
In
this
thing
you
have
sub
projects
which,
in
my
opinion,
equate
to
like
your
PMO
office,
running
programs
and
like
the
sub
projects
or
your
programs.
C
In
this
case,
these
would
be
like
high-level
working
groups,
discussion
groups
who
would
work
on
similar
kind
of
chunked
out
work
so
like
one
working
group
could
be
you
know,
contributor,
guide
and
contributor
documentation
and
other
one
could
be
outreach
strategies
and
contributor
recruitment,
and
things
like
that.
So
I'm
happy.
You
know
I'm,
definitely
happy
to
form
and
put
some
organization
around
anything
that
the
group
thinks
is
priority.
B
Yeah,
it
sounds
like
there's
plenty
of
people
interesting,
there's
people,
volunteering
names,
I,
think
you're
gonna
have
no
problem
recruiting
some
folks
to
to
help
you
out
with
this
Paris
and
I'm
super
excited
ladder.
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
really
important
things
that
we
can
help
the
projects
with
so
yeah
Rose
outreach
contributors,
contributor,
experience,
ya.
C
Know
we'll
figure
it
out
so
take
the
doodle
poll,
y'all
I
did
put
I
think
was
like
a
a
week
plus
so
I
think
the
meeting
is
the
last
week
of
January,
because
I
wanted
to
still
make
sure
that
we
get
the
rounds
of
get
the
rounds
of
the
word
out
and
stuff
like
that.
Just
wanna
make
sure
everybody
knows
that
wants
to
participate.
B
B
All
right,
so
we
could
spend
another
thirty
nine
minutes,
as
somebody
said
like
shedding
yet
Richard
said
to
me
by
shelling
the
name
for
another
39
minutes,
but
I
suspect.
That's
not
what
we
want
to
do.
We
got
anything
else
on
on
the
slide,
a
incredibly
fast
but
hopefully
valuable,
CSE
meeting.
Has
anybody
got
anything
else
they
wanted
to
raise
to
day.