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A
Okay,
I'm
gonna,
I
think,
I'm
down
to
missy,
so
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
start
I'm
hoping
everybody
can
hear
me
is
that
the
case
yeah
you're,
fine,
great
all
right!
Well
welcome
to
the
telco
user
group.
A
My
name
is
watson,
and
this
is
the
I
guess,
the
european
and
china
friendly
time
so
for
everyone
else
that
might
be
in
other
time
zone.
Thank
you
for
joining,
like
I
was
saying
earlier.
If
you
have
any
topics,
go
ahead
and
add
them
to
the
agenda,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
give
a
update
on
the
cnf
conformance
project.
A
There's
there
was
a
new
release
on
friday
0.8.4,
which
really
concentrated
on
doing
platform
tests
versus
workload
tests.
So
there's
a
test
in
there
now
for
doing
node
or
testing
node
failure,
as
well
as-
and
this
is
really
testing
if
the
if
the
nodes
recover
from
an
unexpected
reboot.
It
also
tests
to
see
if
the
runtime,
that
is,
that
the
platform
is
using,
is
oci
compliant
and
another
test.
A
That's
partially
under
that's
underway,
is
testing
to
see
if
cluster
api
is
enabled
in
order
to
see
if
the
nodes
can
be
managed
automatically.
A
You
can
I
put
the
link
inside
of
the
of
the
document
there,
but
the
release
is
here
and
you
can
download
and
and
run
it
there's
also
on
the
main
github
url,
there's
the
installation,
documentation
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
A
A
We've
got
a
a
couple
of
other
conferences,
virtual
conferences,
that
we're
going
to
be
attending
some
of
this
community.
One
of
note
is
the
open
networking
edge
summit.
A
A
And
also
there's
there's
going
to
be
a
cube
con
november,
17th
and
so
be
you
know,
be
ready
for
that.
So
does
anyone
have
any
other
updates
that
they
would
like
to
share
or
any
questions?
Maybe
questions
about
the
performance
suite
or
anything
in.
A
A
A
Okay,
well,
maybe,
if
you
all
what
have
any
comments
on
what
all
should
be
tested
as
far
as
platforms
or
platform
tests
and
workload
tests,
I'd
be
great
if
you
could
maybe
send
some
of
that,
maybe
put
it
in
the
chat
or
go
ahead
and
maybe
send
it
to
me
directly
or
dan,
because
where
we
have
a
bunch
of
different
tests
that
we
have
planned
as
far
as
testing
cloud
native
networking
and
performance
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
but
what
we
work
on
first
matters
based
on
the
community,
so
we're
looking
also
for
contributors.
A
So
if
there
are
things
that
you
would
like
to
work
on,
and
you
have
feedback
we're
really
trying
to
get
more
information
from
the
community
on
that.
B
All
right
that
was
actually
a
question
that
I
have
watson.
So
when
you
say
we
who's
like
what
is
the
what's
the
group
of
people
and
where
do
you
implement
these
tests,
rather,
is
it
like
in
the
end-to-end
test
suite
or
is
it
a
separate
thing
or
how
does
that
work?
Maybe
you
can
briefly
in
one
or
two
sentence
summarize
that.
A
Okay,
so
when
I'm
talking
about
the
the
tests
in
general,
I'm
talking
about
the
this
cnf
conformance
suite.
So
this
is
a
a
suite
that
goes
through,
and
tests.
A
Conformance
to
say,
networking
cloud
native
principles
really
were
concentrating
on
kubernetes,
so
making
sure
that
the
a
workload
that's
installed
on
kubernetes,
so
a
cnf.
If
that's
playing
nice,
let's
say
on
kubernetes
and
it's
portable.
It
has
all
of
these
capabilities
and
properties.
So
compatibility
statelessness
security
make
sure
that
it's
a
microservice
scalability
configuration
of
lifecycle,
tests,
observability
installability
and
then
also
tests.
A
If
it's
on
the
platform
to
see
if
the
scheduler
has
been
modified,
different
from
what
the
kubernetes
ex
expects
like
the
kubernetes
component
test
and
also
test
resilience.
So
that's
some
of
what
this
conformance
suite
comes
or
is
trying
to
do,
and
it
comes
out
of
this
community.
So
there's
a
a
bunch
of
different
it's
an
open
source
project
and
there's
a
bunch
of
different
contributors
to
it.
A
I'm
one
of
the
contributors
but
the
as
far
as
what
tests
the
it's
really
community,
driven
on
what
gets
prioritized,
there's
lots
of
things
that
could
be
tested,
but
we
really
need
the
community
to
come
forward.
But
there's
been
a
lot
of
interest
in
platform
tests.
So
there's
the
the
kubernetes
conformance
test,
which
this
suite
is
kind
of
based
off
of
it,
gets
draws,
inspiration
from,
and
that
actually
runs
within
this
suite
so
you'll
make
sure
that
it's
a
whatever
platform
is
running.
A
It's
going
to
be
conforming
to
the
using
the
with
respect
to
the
the
kubernetes
conformance
so
sauna
buoy,
but
there
are
other
things
that
people
are
interested
on
in
conjunction
with
that.
A
So,
like
I,
don't
think
the
performance
suite
has
test
node
failure,
so
the
kubernetes
conformance
suite.
So
there
are
the
this
test.
Suite
is
really
for
the
the
concerns
of
service
providers
and
vendors
and
trying
to
make
sure
everybody's
playing
nice
with
each
other
and
trying
to
be
when
we.
C
A
We're
also
trying
to
work
with
other
projects
that
we
consider,
maybe
upstream
so
with
cntt
and
the
ovp
projects
from
the
linux
networking
group,
where
we're
trying
to
have
the
cnf
conformance
project
be
a
downstream
so
being
one
of
the
set
of
tests
that
get
run
so
really
really
focusing
on
the
kubernetes
side
and
we're
gathering
also
requirements
from
cnct
and
trying
to
facilitate
some
of
those
things
too,
if
everyone's
sensitive
to
to
those
requirements.
D
Yeah
on
that
work
you
just
mentioned
there
was
a
I
learned
in
the
in
one
of
the
courts.
The
institute
calls
last
week
there's
a
weekly
meeting,
which
I
know
oliver
and
taylor
and
frederick
have
been
setting
up.
It's
it's
been
running
for
just
a
couple
of
weeks
now
to
kind
of
try
and
collate
those
cnf
requirements.
D
I
will
try
and
find
a
link
to
the
d
to
the
document
agenda
and
I'll
put
it
in
the
I'll
put
it
in
this
agenda
here.
So
people
can
see
it
because,
if
you're
interested
in
kind
of
trying
to
collate
those
standard
requirements
around
cloud
native
network
functions,
then
that's
probably
a
good
group
to
work
with.
D
A
A
A
No
problem
here-
the
silent
group
this
time,
so
I
think
that
might
be
it
might
be
it
and
we've
gone
over
the
updates
that
I
had
and
the
events
that
are
coming
up.
So
I
think
that
might
be
it.
We
can
give
people
back
their
time.
A
We've
got
someone's
writing
in
as
anonymous
okay.
There
we
go.
A
C
To
the
question
yeah,
a
lot
of
what's
noted
here
is:
very
you
know,
technical
in
terms
of
the
you
know,
conformance
of
cnf.
Is
there
any
like
concern
on
the
kind
of
more
business
side
of
this
so
and
what
I
mean
what's
inside
of
this
is
like.
C
If
you
look
at
a
lot
of
you
know
existing
telco
vendors,
they
would
have
you
know
multi-year
vendor
contracts,
and
then
you
want
to
introduce
this
technology,
which
means
they're
going
to
have
a
multi-vendor
kind
of
mix
where
there'll
be
some
open
source
components
on
top
of
the
otherwise.
You
know
supported
stack,
and
you
know
these
teleco
operators
will
come
across
at
issues
where
the
support
would
say.
Oh
sorry,
that's
you're
using
you
know,
cncf
stuff.
No,
we
don't
support
that.
C
A
A
However,
that's
possible
or
pieces
of
platform
that
are
closed,
source
they'll
be
able
to
be
downloaded
installed
and
still
tested.
So
it's
a
good
question
that
you're
asking
right.
So
if,
if
you
have
multi
multiple
vendors,
one
of
the
reasons
why
you
want
to
have
some
kind
of
conformance
suite
that
you
can
put
in
your
pipeline,
so
let's
say
you're
a
service
provider
and
you
have
multiple
vendors,
one
of
them
made
a
platform
and
then
they
have
a
cnf
and
you
have
another
vendor
who
just
has
a
cnf
and
you
in
your
pipeline.
A
So
those
stages
before
you
go
to
production
right,
you
run.
Let's
say
you
also
have
code
that
you've
built.
So
you
build
your
code,
you
may
or
may
not
have
coded
you
build.
You
grab
the
artifacts
right.
So
these
are
the
binaries
you
take
those
you
also
take
the
artifacts
from
let's
say:
cnf
vendor
one
that
has
the
their
platform
and
their
cnf.
And
then
you
have
cnf
vendor
two
take
their
artifacts,
so
they're
cnf,
right,
you're
putting
them
all
together.
A
That's
where
you
would
run
that,
and
so,
if
some
other
a
vendor
comes
in
and
says
well,
we
don't
support
the
cns
stuff.
That's
cncf,
stuff!
That's
what
you
said.
It
really
comes
down
to
you
and
you
saying
well,
we
are
interested
in
these
tests.
If
they
fail
or
they
don't
fail,
so
they
could
say
that
they
don't
support,
but
it
could
be.
Maybe
it
doesn't
violate
the
contract.
Maybe
it
violates
your
contract
with
you.
However,
you,
if
you
were
to
say
you
didn't,
have
any
type
of
conformance
testing
at
all.
A
It
seems
to
me
that
you
would
still
be
going
out
there
manually,
seeing
everything
work
on
a
new
version
of
a
deli
of
a
artifact
delivered
to
you
and
this
just
automates
that
right
or
if
you
have
a
you
know,
this
is
one
scenario
injecting
it
into
your
python.
It's
also
envisioned
that
the
vendors
run
it
themselves
against
their
own,
so
the
same
way
how
the
kubernetes
conformance
works
individual.
A
So
the
way
I
said
cns
performs,
but
kubernetes
performance
works.
Kubernetes
conformance
works
is
the
individual
cloud
providers.
If
they
have
a
kubernetes
offering
they
run
the
conformance
suite
against
their
own,
offering
and
then
they'll
post
it
up
the
results.
They'll
post
it
up
too,
like
it's
a
github
repository,
but
anyone
else
can
run
the
kubernetes
conformance
suite.
A
It's
not
really
that
hard
to
install,
but
anyone
else
can
run
it
against
a
kubernetes
offering
and
then
say
hey.
This
is
the
results
we
got,
so
it's
not
like
only
one
person
can
run
it.
So
it
keeps
everyone
honest.
I
guess
everyone
can
see
every
what
everyone
else
is
doing.
That's
where
it
kind
of
it's
it's
good.
A
If
everyone
runs
a
type
of
conformance
against
their
own
platform
or
cnf
or
their
own
artifacts
in
general,
but
you
also
can
run,
and
I
would
recommend
you'd
run
some
type
of
tests
against
your
whenever
you
get
any
type
of
deliverable
right.
So
I
don't
know,
if
does
that?
Am
I
getting
at
the
heart
of
your
question?
Yeah.
C
Yeah,
no,
no,
no,
that's
kind
of
answering
it.
I'm
just
thinking
that
this
information
should
feed
into
some
sort
of
dashboard
or
some
sort
of
you
know,
requirements
or
shared
responsibility.
Matrix
where
you
know
give
give
an
example.
For
example,
you
know
see
amazon's
on
the
call
here,
but
let's
say
you
have
outposts
with
and
certain
things
in
a
region,
and
you
run
this
conformant
test.
C
The
form
test
can
tell
you
that
well,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
the
virtualization
layer
or
the
kubernetes
layer,
but
then
you
know
your
application
still
face
failing
above
the
kubernetes
cluster.
There
needs
to
be
some
output.
That's
basically
before
you
submit
us,
let's
say
a
support
request
that
says
that
you
know
the
these.
These
partners
are
not
they're
conformed.
There's
the
issue
is
not
there
so
that
it's
not
about
a
from
a
supports
perspective.
C
They're,
not
just
you
know,
trying
to
push
the.
I
don't
want
to
say.
Blame
them.
Sounds
too
negative,
but
it's
like
you
know.
It
says
oh
you're,
outside
outside
of
the
conform
stack
per
say
it's
that
okay,
let's
work
on
the
problem
here,
we
know
it
is
we've
listed
it
down
to
you
know
these
three
four
components
which
probably
includes
you
know
this
vendors,
which
is
outside
the
cncf
kind
of
conformity
test.
But
again
it's
you
need
to
give
this
reassurance.
C
There's
reassurance
to
management
that
you
know
that
that
it's
there's
a
shared
responsibility
matrix
there.
It's
agreed
on
and
the
conformant
tests
kind
of
shows
how
it
ticks
the
boxes
of
that
and
doesn't
allow
the
classic
support
from
some
vendor.
Underneath
to
you
know
to
push
the
problem
somewhere
else,
but
be
part.
A
Of
that
investment
definitely
yeah
a
dashboard
would
really
be
nice,
and
you
know
if,
if
there's
people
that
want
that,
we
could
definitely
try
to
put
something
like
that
together,
but
right
now
the
underlying
artifact,
that
it
is
a
cli.
So
it
gives
you
you
know,
gives
you
you
know
red.
A
If
something
fails
green,
is
it
passed
for
every
one
of
the
tests
and
has
a
name,
so
you
can
actually
see
it
but
rolling
that
kind
of
thing
up
to
a
dashboard
for
all
the
rest
of
your
tests
that
you
probably
should
have
for
your
environment?
Yes,
that's
something!
A
I
think
I
personally
think
that's
important
and
yeah
it
is.
You
know
we
try
not
to
say
it's
a
blame
game,
and
you
know
it's
really
shouldn't.
We
really
should
be
trying
to
it's
really
a
handshake.
Someone
gives
you
an
artifact
and
you're
running,
and
you
want
to
put
that
in
your
environment.
You
have
some
things
that
are
a
little
bit
different
you
as
the
quicker
that
you
can
give
them
back
information
info
as
hey.
A
This
doesn't
work
your
new
security
patch,
it's
great
on
your
test,
but
we're
your
main
consumer
and
you're
breaking
us.
So
can
you
please
give
us
another
patch
that
doesn't
kill
us,
but
pretty
quickly
that
the
faster
instead
of
that
happening
in
emails
and
things
like
that,
but
it
happening
almost
real
time
where
people
can
get
the
information
like
if
it
was
a
dashboard
or
some
type
of
automated
feedback
on
failure
that
that
makes
it
to
where
your
whole
pipeline
is
faster.
So,
yes,
I
really.
A
A
Yeah,
so
we're
really
interested
in
these
types
of
this
type
of
pain,
so
any
feedback
on
how
people
are
actually
consuming
their
the
artifacts,
their
products
and
everything
from
their
vendors
and
how
they
do
how
they
get
back
their
information,
how
long
those
cycles
are
taking
and
when
how
we
can
help
tune
that
with
the
conformance,
would
be
great.
A
So
if
there's
nothing
else,
unless
somebody
wants
to
have
some
other
questions,
we'll
give
back
30
minutes
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