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From YouTube: CDF Monthly Community Ambassador Call - July 2020
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July 7, 2020 @ 8am PST
A
A
C
D
A
A
D
B
B
Okay,
alright,
let's
get
started
I
know
that
we
will
have
Dan
and
Tara
joining
and
then
I've
also
included.
Just
as
that's
why
I
talk
about
these
slides
talking
about
the
CDF,
if
you
guys
ever
have
a
presentation
that
you
need
to
talk
about
the
CDF,
please
pull
these
slides,
so
I'll
always
include
them
in
our
in
our
monthly
meeting
presentation
and
then
also,
if
you
need
some
inspiration
on
how
to
pitch
the
CDF.
This
is
a
great
video
that
Tracy
Miranda
put
together
for
us.
A
H
Give
an
overview,
and
then
hopefully,
Tara
can
jump
in
later:
okay,
okay,
so
next
slide.
So
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
we
had
a
session
with
the
ambassadors
on
the
continuous
delivery,
landscape
and
I.
Think
the
first
thing
but
was
highlighted,
was
that
you
know
not
those
many
folks
were
aware
that
CDF
maintains
or
has
a
version
0.1
of
a
CI
CD
landscape.
You
know
similar
to
how
CN
CF
has
a
cloud
native
one,
but
yes,
so.
H
H
So
okay
I'll
keep
going
and
then
I'll,
let
Tara
jump
in,
but
yeah
I
think
the
overall
vision
is
you
know
this
is
this
should
be
an
industry
resource
that
gives
people?
You
know
the
high
level
twenty
thousand
feet
view
of
the
vast
sea,
icd
landscape
and
attempts
to
categorize
different
forms
of
tooling.
H
It's
not
going
to
be
perfect,
because
you
know
it's
always
hard
to
put
specific
things
in
a
specific
box,
but
at
a
very
high
level
it
gives
people
an
understanding
of
what's
out
there,
which
tools
can
be
considered
equivalent
or
do
similar
things
and
how
they
all
contribute
to
the
software
delivery
lifecycle
and
one
of
the
key
things
in
the
discussion
was
I.
Think
we
had
it
in
in
the
guidelines
that
it
was
only
for
open
source
projects.
But
this
isn't
this
isn't
how
we're
moving
forward.
H
We
do
want
it
to
be
similar
to
CN
CF,
where
it's
open
to
kind
of
well
used,
open
source
and
also
some
non
open
source
projects,
and
so
I.
Think
one
of
the
big
or
overarching
call
to
action
is
that
please
submit
issues
and
pull
requests
to
add
any
tools
that
you
see,
you're
aware
of
that
I'm
missing
from
the
landscape
and
I'm
sure
Tara
can
talk
more
about
that
process.
Batteries
and
there
we
go
hand
over
to
Tara,
and
maybe
you
can
go
into
details
of
each
of
those
yeah.
F
Sorry
I'm
late
I
was
having
technical
difficulties.
My
daughter
stole
my
microphone
for
her
piano
class,
so
I
had
to
run
around
to
find
it
well
not
stole
she's
allowed
to
use
it,
but
still
I
was
like
wait.
Where
did
it
go
so
yeah,
so
a
landscape
we
haven't
made
as
much
progress
as
I
had
hoped.
Marky's
been
great,
we
got
him
access
in
there
and
he's
been
rummaging
around
and
the
main
focus
is.
F
I
think
the
biggest
challenge
we've
had
up
to
this
point
is:
there
hasn't
been
enough:
Kure
active
curation
around
this
stuff,
so
you
need
to
revise
the
guidelines
and
get
a
handle
on
making
sure
that
we're
keeping
a
better
eye
on
the
landscape
in
general
and
then
as
as
Tracy's,
pointing
out
I'm
trying
to
be
really
thoughtful
about
how
we
describe
these
things
and
then
the
other
thing
that
I
think
is
a
sort
of
a
orthogonal
discussion,
but
an
important
one
is
eventually.
How
do
we
tie
into
the
work
that
the
interoperability
sig
is
doing?
F
G
F
Want
it:
okay,
yeah,
there's,
there's
one:
there's
a
landscape
channel,
it's
a
it's
pretty
quiet,
but
it's
there
and
I
do
check
it.
So
go
ahead
and
throw
your
thoughts
in
there
and
we
can
just
kind
of
do
this.
Asynchronously.
Oh
yeah,
mark
you
posted
it.
Thanks.
F
So
I
think
we've
got
the
PRS
that
are
going
to
start
coming
in
around
the
documentation.
Getting
those
a
good
review,
making
sure
that
we're
communicating
the
correct
message
and
then
you
know
any
feedback
that
you
have
will
be
extremely
useful
and
then,
as
you're
talking
to
folks
in
the
larger
community,
making
sure
that
they're
aware
of
it-
and
you
may
even
soliciting
some
folks
to
join
a
landscape
to
make
sure
that
we
build
out
that
larger
picture.
F
H
F
There
was
actually
in
the
in
the
breakout
session
that
we
had.
There
was
some
pretty
interesting
conversations
that
I.
You
know
once
we
kind
of
get
through
this
initial
cleanup
I'd
like
to
go
back
and
revisit
around
how
the
landscape
is
laid
out.
Now
it's
put
together,
I
think
there
will
be
some
good
discussions
there,
like.
C
B
I'm,
like
tdawg
tizzle,
okay,
great,
so
the
next
thing
is
we're
moving
on
to
see
decon
and
events
so
really
quickly.
We
have
July
16th
another
virtual
event
through
the
DevOps
Institute
scale,
up
based
continuous
our
ecosystem,
I.
Think
tarah
speaking
at
this
Markey
is
speaking
and
then
also
Tracy.
Regan
is
speaking
at
this
event.
B
So
we
are
making
lists.
There's
29
30
minute
slots
which
we
can
combine.
You
know
basically
two-hour
sessions
or
if
you
want
a
30-minute
session,
there's
29
of
them
available
30
minutes
over
three
days.
So
if
you
want
to
speak,
there's
the
sign-up
sheet,
the
deadlines,
August
tense
them,
giving
folks
some
time
what
we
ended
up
doing
since
CD
CD
summit
Europe
was
cancelled.
We've
asked
those
folks,
first
hey:
do
you
want
to
still
submit
your
talk
that
you
you
know?
B
Do
you
want
to
recycle
your
talk
from
CD
7/8
Europe
and
you
can
do
it
at
the
Box
world,
so
those
folks
have
been
given
some
time
already.
Only
a
few
signed
up
so
we
have
over
the
track
is
held
over
three
days.
So
there's
plenty
of
opportunities,
so
there's
three
tabs
in
there
for
day,
1
2,
&
3,
so
please
go
in
and
sign
up
we're
also
going
to
be
making
these
speaking
slots
available
to
our
members.
B
So
like
I
mentioned
first-come
first-serve,
but
we
have
plenty
plenty
of
space
and
then
again
we're
asking
for
folks
to
help
volunteer
and
staff
the
CD
booth.
So
there's
the
signup
sheet
for
that
as
well.
Now
for
CD
con,
we
are
still
working
through
some
like
logistics,
stuff,
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
the
perspectives
and
we're
still
also
trying
to
figure
out
how
much
we're
going
to
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
to
sign
up,
but
CFP
is
open
and
I
know
it's
coming
to
a
close
soon.
B
So,
if
you
haven't
submitted
your
talk,
please
submit
your
talk
registration.
Is
it
open
yet,
but
we're
working
on
we're
working
on
that.
So
I
hope
that
by
this
week
early
next
week,
we'll
have
an
update
on
registration
cost
and
also
yeah
pretty
much
that
and
then
still
on
the
roadmap.
Cd
con
2021
that's
happening
next
year.
If
kovat
19
permits
we'll
have
an
in-person
event,
otherwise
we'll
probably
go
virtual
again
do.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions.
B
Okay,
so
this
is
kind
of
like
a
high-level
view
of
the
roadmap,
so
coming
up
skill
up
day,
the
devops
world
CD
coning
october
spinnaker
summit
in
October,
end
of
October
and
then
Q
Khan
cloud
native
con
in
November.
That's
going
to
be
a
virtual
event
and
we're
only
sponsoring
a
booth
and
like
I
mentioned
C
D
summit
Europe
and
North
America.
We've
decided
to
just
cancel
for
this
year.
Okay,
so
project
graduations.
Do
we
have
I,
don't
know
if
Dan
joined,
but
I
know
that
we
have
Tracy
and
Marquis.
Who
can
speak
to
these.
H
Yeah
I'm
happy
to
just
give
an
overview
and
start
from
there.
Okay,
so
C
D
F
hosts
a
number
of
projects
as
folks,
maybe
away,
and
the
projects
have
a
specific
CDF
lifecycle.
So
they
they
kind
of
go
through
these
different
stages,
and
this
is
overseen
by
the
technical,
Oversight
Committee,
so
folks
like
Tara
and
Anders.
H
So
when
we
talk
about
projects
which
graduate
what
this
means
is
that
they
must
meet
specific
criteria
and
the
criteria
is
designed
that
these
graduated
projects
should
inspire
confidence
with
users
and
the
way,
the
industry
that
the
project
is
well
governed,
it's
healthy.
It
follows
open-source
best
practices
and
so
spec
CDF
is
not
just
about
open
source
projects,
but
really
good,
open
governance.
And
if
you
look
through
the
criteria,
it's
it's
all
sorts
of
things
like
you
know,
making
sure
the
project
has
a
code
of
conduct
and
a
way
for
people
to
submit
issues.
H
It's
saying:
we've
got
more
than
just
one
company
contributing
to
this
project.
We
have
folks
adopting
the
project.
We
also
use
the
core
infrastructure
initiative,
set
kind
of
checklist
to
say
that
you
follow
open-source
best
practices,
around
security,
triaging
issues
and
all
sorts
of
things.
So
it's
a
pretty
comprehensive
list
and
I
think
it's
it's
a
good
way
for
projects,
even
if
you're
a
project
like
Jenkins,
which
has
been
around
for
15
years.
It's
it's
more
about
sort
of
saying.
H
Okay,
can
you
go
through
this
process
and
let's
model
that
as
a
good
thing,
not
just
for
CDF,
but
the
industry
in
general?
So
the
main
thing
is
that
all
projects
will
be
going
through
this
process
and
Jenkins
is
going
to
be
the
first
to
test
it
out
and
then
I
think
spinnaker
and
Tecton
are
also
queuing
up
to
to
kind
of
get
that
graduated
status.
So
next
slide.
So
I'll
talk
a
bit
more
about
Jenkins,
Project,
Graduation
and
then
Mark.
H
You
might
have
some
thing
to
add
on
spinnaker,
but
Jenkins
will
be
the
first
project
working
towards
the
graduation
criteria,
I
think
around
the
end
of
July.
What
this
means
this
Jenkins
project
leaders,
some
members
of
the
governing
board,
will
present
how
the
project
meets
the
various
requirements
in
the
Chuya.
Then
the
six
or
seven
members
of
the
technical
oversight
committee
will
vote
to
say
whether
they
approve
it
and
if
they
get
a
two-thirds
majority,
then
the
project
will
be
considered.
C
H
C
Will
ask
the
individuals
on
the
call
if,
if
everybody
is
aware,
sort
of
what
graduation
means
for
a
project
and
a
lot
of
people
may
understand
what
does
this
mean?
It
means
project
maturity.
It
means
that
when,
when
people
go
to
make
decisions,
they're
gonna
make
decisions
based
on
the
maturity
of
a
given
open-source
project
and
that,
if
you
can
think
of
some
previous
graduations
and
other
communities
such
as
kubernetes,
it
leads
to
a
very
big
usage
of
a
given
project.
B
Okay,
so
yet
let
us
know,
because
we
are
trying
to
put
together
content
for
the
podcast
newsletter,
webinar
and
yeah,
so
we'll
need.
We
need
some
volunteers,
great
I'm,
just
also
some
updates
on
knowing
your
benefits
I'm
also
committed.
This
is
probably
going
to
be
a
static
part
of
our
Mertz
materials,
so
we
do
have
a
new
program
that
launched
its
called
twitch.
B
I'm
sure
you
guys
are
probably
familiar
with
this,
but
it's
actually
ran
by
Adam
Roberts
from
IBM
he's
one
of
our
ambassadors
and
I
think
also
a
few
folks
from
IBM
are
collaborating,
unfortunately,
he's
doing
his
first
dry
run
today.
At
the
same
time,
so
Adam
was
not
able
to
be
here
to
talk
about
what
they're
planning
to
do
with
with
the
twitch
TV.
B
But
you
know
mainly
people
use
this
to
stream,
while
they're
playing
video
games,
so
he
wants
to
put
together
a
code
and
talk
session
on
a
weekly
basis,
focused
around
the
incubating
projects
and
then
so
I
guess
they'll
alternate
between
developers,
coding,
live
coding
and
then
also
consumers
and
getting
also
that
end
user
perspective.
So
this
was
like
I
said:
Adam,
Dhawan
and
JJ
for
IBM
are
currently
running.
B
This
I
think
I
put
some
folks
in
on
the
line
in
touch
with
Adam
I,
don't
know
where
that
went,
but
yeah,
if
you
guys,
have
ideas
or
want
to
collaborate,
please
get
in
touch
with
Adam.
As
he's
the
read
and
point
for
this
as
well,
and
just
some
brief
update
on
how
the
program
is,
some
of
the
programs
are
doing
so.
The
podcast,
where
we
just
published
nine
episodes,
we've
hit
60
of
over
660
1600
downloads,
and
then
in
the
last
30
days
we
had
800
downloads.
So
I'm
pretty
excited
about
this.
B
We
have
about
an
average
of
272
listeners.
So
that
means
that
when
we
publish
a
podcast
episode,
you
should
expect
an
average
of
272
listeners
in
the
first
90
days,
I'm
also
looking
for
new
content.
So
if
you
have
ideas
on
podcast
episodes,
please
submit
a
form
like
August
is
wide
open
right
now,
and
this
is
just
a
breakdown
of
each
of
the
episodes
how
they
did
in
the
have
they
performed
in
the
past
seven
days,
30
days
and
90
days,
and
then
the
overall
download
and
playtime
upcoming
episodes.
B
We
will
have
a
spinnaker
community
and
Project
Graduation
podcast
episode,
and
then
we
will
also
have
another
episode
by
Alex
leveraging
continuous
delivery
to
improve
developer
experience
and
again
how
to
submit
your
podcast
idea.
These
are
all
the
links
and
then
webinars
we've
hosted
for
so
far.
I
still
need
to
do
more
work
on
this
program
in
regards
to
helping
drive
registrations
and
just
promote
it
overall.
I
think,
depending
on
the
speaker,
I've
noticed
that
we
have
like
Tracy
is
pretty
well
known.
B
I
We
can
do
better
than
that.
I'll
I'll
do
what
I
can
today
yeah.
B
We
can
do
better,
absolutely
and
then
the
culture
factor
also
that
this
is
going
to
be
presented
by
AIESEC,
mascara
from
armory
and
then
yeah.
So,
basically
just
more
the
same
links
on
how
to
submit
your
content
and
that
stuff
blogs
in
June
we've
had
quite
a
bit
of
blogs,
published
mainly
they
were
all
introducing
the
ambassadors,
but
this
is
also
another
opportunity
for.
G
B
Guys
to
establish
yourself
as
a
thought
leader
in
the
community,
so
we're
always
welcoming
new
content
in
the
blog
I.
Just
a
quick
update
to
that
to
the
blog
was
transitioned
from
Jesse
and
now
is
being
ran
by
Roxanne,
so
just
FYI.
If
you
see
somebody
named
Roxanne
reaching
out
to
you
about
your
blog.
B
This
is
why
okay
and
just
same
stuff,
so
the
newsletter
just
went
out
on
the
sixth
I'm
super
impressed
and
I'm,
really
really
happy,
Roxanne's,
just
doing
an
amazing
job
and
then
just
some
performance
on
June's
newsletter
and
just
some
overall
stats
on
it.
And
this
is
our
publishing
schedule.
So
in
July
the
theme
was
security
August,
since
we're
trying
to
graduate
Jenkins
it's
all.
It's
gonna
be
featured
around
drinkin's
and
we'll
be
doing
the
same
thing
for
all
of
the
graduating
projects.
H
B
B
B
We
are
also
going
to
make
ask
you
to
make
a
decision
on
whether
you
want
to
continue
as
a
chair
of
that
group
or
you
want
to
continue
as
being
an
ambassador,
because,
like
I
said,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
more
more
diversity
in
our
Ambassador
group
and
because
you
already
have
a
seat
at
the
table
somewhere
else
that
that's
kind
of
my
thinking
about
that.
So
well,
that's
what
that
we're
still
putting
the
guidelines
together.
B
But
that
was
one
of
the
big
one
of
the
big
things
that
we
were
like:
hey
we're
having
a
lot
of
folks
from
our
member
companies,
apply
as
ambassadors,
but
they're,
also
contributing
in
special
interest
groups
and
they're,
also
contributing
to
the
talk
or
they're
also
contributing
to
the
Outreach
Committee.
So
it
just
didn't
make
sense
for
us
to
also
have
them
as
an
ambassador.
Because
then
you
just
don't
just
don't,
have
that
much
of
a
diverse
conversation
you're
just
talking
to
the
same
people
over
and
over
again.
B
So
though,
we're
working
on
those
guidelines-
they're
gonna,
be
rolled
out,
but
we
haven't
accepted
any
new
ambassadors
because
we
just
need
to
have
these
conversations
with
some
with
some
of
our
members
as
well,
just
to
let
them
know
so.
That's
the
biggest
update
there
and
then
social
media.
We
are
really
doing
great
on
Twitter.
Our
followers
grew
four
percent
and
our
impressions
grew
38
percent
from
May
to
June,
so
I'm
very,
very
happy,
I
think
we're
producing
a
lot
of
great
content.
B
I
think
also
the
Ambassador
group
I've
noticed,
has
really
stepped
in
and
helped
us
broaden
our
reach.
So
thank
you
so
much
because
it's
it's
we're
really
trending
in
the
right
direction
and
also
with
LinkedIn.
Last
month,
I
saw
it
was
like
almost
a
hundred
percent
yeah
96
percent
in
new
followership.
So
that
was
something
really
really
excited
me
and
then
yeah
just
this
is
also
the
podcast
performance
and
now
I
turn
it
over
to
you
guys
and
gals.
If
you
want
open
discussion
or
have
feedback
I.
C
H
Yeah
I
went
a
second.
What
you
were
saying:
Jackie
just
in
terms
of
I,
think
it's
really
amazing
how
the
ambassadors
are
stepping
up
and
getting
involved
with
the
newsletters,
the
webinars,
the
podcast,
even
starting
twitch
channels,
so
I
think
that's
great
and
I.
Think
our
job
here
is
to
facilitate
all
the
efforts
you
want
to
drive
so
yeah.
Please
keep
letting
us
know
how
we
can
do
that.
I.
C
Would
also
like
to
add
that
if
your
organization
or
you
as
an
individual
who
are
going
to
be
doing
any
type
of
a
speaking
engagement
in
regards
to
you,
know,
CDE,
please
reach
out
to
the
cdf
because
they
can
help
you
promote
that
as
well,
and
there
is
a
form
that
you
can
fill
out.
I
don't
have
it
readily
available,
but
I
will
get
it
in
the
next
ten
minutes
and
it
will.
You
can
just
fill
out.
Some
information
in
the
cdf
will
help
promote
your
event.
B
J
G
B
H
We're
having
a
discussion
around
CD
corn
and
the
whole
with
the
whole
pivot,
to
virtual
events,
asking
to
just
learn
like
what
sort
of
things
are
people
seeing
at
virtual
events
that
go
beyond
just
talks
and
kind
of
make
them
more
engaging.
So
are
they
anything
any
events
you've
been
to
that
have
been
well
done?
Did
they
do
specific
things
that
you
thought?
Oh
that's,
really
neat
and
takes
advantage
of
the
fact
you're
online,
so
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
tap
into
folks
and
just
hear
various
experiences
or
suggestions
for
silicon.
H
G
Best
ones
that
I've
seen
on
my
end
are
when
you
act
so
the
the
trouble
that
most
organizations
have
is
they
need
archetypes.
They
need,
they
need
someone's
github
repository
where
they
can
grab
some
templates
that
they
could
just
get
started.
So
I
found
the
ones
when
Microsoft
does
some.
They
have.
As
your
pipeline
examples,
I've
seen,
Red
Hat,
you
open
shift,
you
know
yeah
mole
files,
sometimes
people
just
don't
know
what
good
looks
like
and
giving
them
good
examples.
G
G
Yeah
exactly
like,
like,
if
I
meet
with
an
organization,
sometimes
I
find
they
don't
actually
understand
what
CI
CD
will
look
like
when
it's
in
good
shape.
They
just
copy
what
they've
done
poorly
before
and
move
it
to
a
new
tool.
They
need
a
good
working
archetype.
My
problem,
there
is
sometimes
you're
sharing
some
high-value
assets,
but
I
find
the
you'll
get
you'll
get
adoption.
You'll
you'll
get
them
moving
forward.
They
just
need
to
get
over
the
hump
of
what
does
good
look
like
yes,
technical
asset,
okay,.
K
K
G
Start
with
the
archetype
of
what
the
pieces
would
be
and
then
go
to
application
or
tooling
specific
examples
of
that
archetype,
I
kind
of
find
we
target
products,
and
we
don't
do
a
good
job
of
targeting
what
the
exemplar
looks
like.
So
if
we
start
with
the
exemplar
of
CI
CD,
and
then
we
give
examples
like
Marquis
pudding
with
regards
to
like
Jenkins
specific,
do
they
align
with
what
that
archetype
looks
like
is,
is
key.
F
Now
you
go
ahead,
there
I'm
just
gonna,
say
I'm,
always
a
big
fan
of
turning
it
around
to
the
door
capabilities
right.
It's
like
we've
got
the
four
key
metrics
for
standard
four.
You
know
from
inception
to
customer
delivery,
but
then
there's
all
the
other
capabilities
around
architectural
decisions
that
you
may
make.
You
know
how
you
there's
a
big
difference
in
what
your
decisions
are
gonna
make
between
like
a
monolithic,
Java,
app
or
a
codebase
microservice
cluster
right,
but
and
in
the
cultural
elements.
Leadership
like
there's
all
those
different
things
and
I.
F
Think
there's
I
like
your
idea
of
like
kind
of
starting
with
sort
of
the
table
stakes
of
that
discussion,
but
then
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
branches
to
that
discussion
and
figuring
out
even
which
directions
to
go
is
also
kind
of
a
you
know
what
what
next
right?
Okay,
we
expand
on
our
commitment,
investment
in
automation.
That's
a
good
thing,
have
a
good
model
for
commits.
A
F
You
can
get
to
the
point
where
you're
able
to
at
least
consider
continuous
delivery,
but
you
know
now
what
right
and
so
I
think
there's
kind
of
a
stepping
element
to
it.
That
would
be
really
cool
to
try
and
provide
some
sort
of
guidance
around.
You
know
how
we
articulate
this,
so
people
can
really
start
to
get
some
of
these
concepts.
H
Interestingly
enough,
at
the
board
level,
this
whole
focus
on
best
practices
is
something
that
we
all
feel
like.
Cdf
is
really
well
positioned
to
how
have
this
conversation
so
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
is.
This
is
the
start
of
that,
and
we
should
just
push
more
on
defining
those
archetypes
using
Mike
door
as
a
foundation,
but
then
going
much
deeper
and
providing
all
the
I
guess.
The
the
different
paths
and
topics
I've.
G
Had
like
customers,
where
they
go,
how
do
I
handle
if
I'm
get
if
I'm
get
triggered?
How
do
I
handle
a
prioritization
of
groups
for
deliveries
to
different
apps?
How
do
I
handle
sequential
or
parallel
efforts?
What
does
that
look
like
within
workflows
in
relation
to
the
pipeline?
Are
our
pipelines,
tributing
pipelines?
I
mean
I,
have
some
of
those
archetypes,
because
our
digital
team
builds
them
and
it's
it's
nonspecific
to
product.
G
So
if
there
is
something
you
want
to
reach
out
to
Tracy,
if
you
have
examples
that
you
want,
I've
had
to
do
it
for
some
customers,
because
they
just
don't
understand
how
it
would
function,
but
they
ask
the
questions
they
understand.
They
have
the
business
need
they
just
don't
understand
the
technology
being
applicable
to
those
whatever
vendors.
They
choose
something.
C
That
we're
doing
a
new
user
operability
stick
is
coming
up
with
common
terminology
for
CI
a
CD,
so
people
can
like,
for
example,
we
have
a
working
group
on
event
and
what
or
what
are
the
archetypes
of
event
in
a
given?
You
know
micro
service,
or
so
that
would
be
something
Shalom.
If
you'd
like
to
join
that
interoperability
see,
we
are
currently
working
on
coming
up
with
common
terminology
that,
as
it
pertains
to
our
landscape
and.
K
L
Hi
this
is
Mark
Hornby.
Can
you
hear
me
yeah
so
I'm
also
an
ambassador
for
the
DevOps
Institute
I'm,
a
consultant
I
do
a
lot
of
enterprise
level
with
bias,
mostly
things
like
assessments
and
Road
mapping,
DevOps
and
various
things,
but
one
one
thing
I've
often
found
very
helpful
to
get
folks
on
the
same
page.
L
Is
this
idea
of
an
assessment
when
I
say
assessment,
it's
more
than
just
you
know
a
checklist,
but
it's
usually
embodies,
like
you
know,
almost
that
it's
you
know
best
practices
that
are
being
used
to
help
people
understand
where
they
are
relative
to
best
practices,
so
that
I
found
that
to
be
so.
You
know
beneficial
in
terms
of
getting
organizations
aligned
around
terminology,
and
you
know
what's
good,
what's
not
in
a
way
that
you
know
they
can
contribute
and
participate.
L
So
I,
don't
know
if
that's
something
to
CDF
is
considering
or
might
consider,
but
this
idea
of
having
some
form
of
an
assessment
whether
you
use
the
word
assessment.
You
know
I
know
that's
controversial,
but
other
there's
there's
different
ideas
around
how
you
could
didn't,
maybe
standardize
that
or
at
least
come
up
with
some
I
could.
G
I
could
share
how
we
broke
down
the
SPLC
entirely
into
human
toil
or
measurements
of
each
stage
of
build,
deploy,
test,
validate
sort
of
thing,
and
then
you
have
all
the
structures,
so
I
don't
look
at
it
as
ROI
I.
Look
at
it
as
how
inefficient
is
your
CD
architecture,
and
then
I
will
show
you
human
toil
metrics
to
show
you
how
much
you're
wasting
of
people's
time
energy,
work-life
balance
and
then
money
based
on
how
much
you
pay
them
so
that
they
understand
if
I
change,
the
CD
architecture.
G
I
will
save
this
amount
of
pain
within
my
talent
and
this
amount
of
money
based
on
inefficiencies.
I,
don't
take
it
from
here's.
What
I
think
is
an
archetype.
You
should
be
following
because
it
every
app
is
different.
We
can
put
the
archetype,
so
they
understand
so
they
could
adopt,
but
I
don't
think
you
can
apply
ROI
architecture
structure
to
evaluate
someone
outside
of.
Are
you
inefficient
with
your
current
state.
H
I
Yeah
echo,
though
you
can't
apply
a
common
pattern
to
everybody,
but
I
think
there
are
practices
that
are
applicable
everywhere,
like
I
run
into
teams
that
aren't
using
source
control
right.
There
are
some
high-level
best
practices
that
you
could
apply
into
an
assessment
or
than
that
I'm.
Also
a
consultant
and
I
get
that
question
a
lot
like
how
do
I
get
started
doing
this
and
my
answer
is
always
prioritized
pain
and
don't
let
perfect
get
in
the
way
of
better
I
like
it.
I
There's
too
many
organizations
that
will
look
at
the
landscape
roadmap
and
and
spend
the
first
18
months
doing
analysis
of
alternatives
on
tools,
and
it
could
be
worthwhile
to
explain
that
you
know
until
you
get
this
super
specific
use
cases
you're
going
to
accomplish
the
basics
with
all
with
all
these
tools.
I
pick
something
and
be
better
tomorrow
than
you
were
today
and
then
look
back
in
a
year
and
you'll
you'll
be
a
lot
better
off
right.
So
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
times.
I
Organizations
get
a
little
daunted
when
you,
when
you
pull
up
a
best
practices,
diagram
and
maturity
assessment,
and
they
realize
that
they
probably
have
three
years
of
work
to
do
so,
really
helping
them
prioritize
it
based
on
you
know.
What
are
you
spending
the
most
time
on
that
you
don't
want
to
be
spending
time
on
and
start
there
and
automate
that
and
then
move
on
to
try
to
make
it
seem
a
little
more
attainable
than
it
can
be
when
you're
just
reading
blog
posts,
I.
E
Think
another
thing
that
that
is
working
is
when
you
have
this
value
stream
mapping
exercise
within
all
the
stakeholders,
because
we're
able
to
understand
all
the
bottlenecks
constraints
and,
although
you're
able
to
set
the
business
outcomes
that
you
want
to
achieve
and,
of
course
we're
not
just
talking
about
the
technology
but
the
key
processes
as
well.
So
this
will
give
you
the
idea
on
whether
what
automations
you
want
to
make
in
every
software
lifecycle
and
and
try
to
see
how
you
can
influence
this
for
DevOps
KPIs.
That
is
really
important
as
well.
I.
C
Agree,
I
agree
with
that.
One
of
the
things
that
I
will
say
is
keep
in
mind
that
when
you,
when
you're
building
any
type
of
sort
of
architectural
vision
for
a
given
company,
Enterprise
what-have-you
is
they
may
not
have
the
ability
to
set
up
a
value
stream.
They
may
not
have
the
ability
to
to
interject
these
kinds
of
things.
I
think
what
the
first
thing
you
want
to
do
is
just
get
it
down
to
a
granular
terminology
level,
so,
everybody's
speaking,
the
same
language.
J
This
is
not
each
also
known
as
well
so
Jackie.
If
you
remember,
this
is
kind
of
a
slightly
different
topic.
This
was
from
the
past
month.
I
proposed
something
called
a
very
similar
to
what
we
used
to
have
for
a
Jam
spread,
because
now
we
are
into
especially
not
to
spread
across
all
the
people
that
they
are
hosting
the
work
their
own
webinars,
but
at
least
like
to
reach
to
the
more
people.
J
It
would
be
nice
to
have
these
couple
of
slides
or
maybe
four
or
five
slides
into
the
every
webinar,
like
most
of
the
numbers
that
we
have
in
this
monthly
spreadsheet.
Probably
we
can
have
those
numbers
onto
the
the
webinars
template
or
whatever
the
presentation
that
we
are
providing
it
to
the
person
who
is
presenting
so
that
we
can
like
maybe
at
the
starting
and
at
the
end,
so
that
we
can
have
a
more
reach
and
then
explain
more
about
the
CDF.
H
Yeah
I
think
that's
a
great
suggestion.
Jackie
every
made
those
slides
available,
or
is
it
just
a
case?
People
should
just
grab
them
out
of
this
presentation
and
add
them.
Sorry,
I
I.
Think
really
sorry
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong
narration
saying
talk
about
just
promoting
what
CDF
is
trying
to
do
the
five
slides
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation,
adding
those
to
any
kind
of
jenkins
area,
meetup
or
any
cdf
meetup.
Is
that
what
you
were
saying.
J
Exactly
I
was,
I
was
talking
about
a
jam
spread
and
then
you
said,
like
you're
gonna
follow
up
and
instead
of
a
meeting
to
have
those
kind
of
like
monthly
or
a
quarterly
updates
to
those
five
or
six
slides,
maybe
beginning
that
at
the
end
of
each
presentation.
But
I
think
we
could
start
with
our
cdf
webinars
to
reach
out
to
the
more
people,
and
then
we
can
also
have
another
copy
or
similar
copy
to
give
it
to
the
people
presenting
in
other
meetups,
like
area
meetups
or
a
CTF
meetups
and
all
so.
H
J
Think
these,
the
slides
that
we
have
are
probably
it's
very
good
for
us
to
go
to
look
at
there's
so
many
we
may
have
to
fine-tune
those
such
that
it's
just
gonna
be
like
in
four
or
five
slides
to
have
a
brief
content
and
then
more
more
so
that
it's
like
I,
don't
know
if
it
makes
sense
to
have
a
one
of
the
CDF
ambassadors
to
kick
off
that
calls
those
webinars,
especially
yeah.
There
are
two
two
sides
of
it
here.
J
J
So
good,
that's
a
reason,
taught
me
what
we
could
do
is
we
can
start
with
our
CDF
webinars
and
then
every
webinar
should
have
a
PPT
templates,
but
the
first
five
that
the
last
five
should
be
kind
of
just
explaining
few
things
to
the
people
who
are
watching
those.
So
they
know
more
about
our
graduated
projects
and
the
number
of
people
that
those
kind
of
things
so
yeah.
H
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
I'll
take
a
note
and
let's
see
what
we
can
do
to
follow
up
on
that
and
what
do
folks
think
about
CDF
be
having
almost
a
monthly
open
meeting
just
open
to
anybody,
and
we
we
sort
of
take
some
of
our
highlights
and
let
people
know
what
we're
doing.
Do
you
think
that
that
would
be
a
good
thing
that
would
be
well-received?
H
E
C
J
That's
when
we
we
need
to
start
with
some
basic
layer.
Okay,
the
goal
of
this
community
is
so,
and
so
these
are
the
graduated
projects,
but
you
know
in
the
may
not
be
the
monthly.
Maybe
we
could
have
the
quarterly
and
then
say
this
past
quarter.
We
made
some
progress
than
this.
This
interoperability
sake.
Now
you
know
you
could
be
a
Jenkins,
so
the
user
and
it's
easy
to
switch
to
adapt
to
the
another
tool
that
we
have
in
our
umbrella.
And
this
is
the
progress
that
we
are
making.
C
Think
what
you're
looking
for
is
something
like
the
Sega
cigs
meeting.
That's
where
every
area
he
does
a
brief
if
its
quarterly
they'll
do
an
update
of
what
they've
worked
on
for
that
quarter.
So,
for
example,
the
Jenkins
project
would
come
to
this
and
they
have
to
present
sort
of
what
they've
done
in
that
quarter
or
what
is
largely
working
from
a
project
level
and
every
project
does
that
yep,
probably.
J
K
Narration
I
was
going
to
say
that
is
you
know
your
idea
about
getting
basically
applying
machine
learning
to
see
ICD
I
think
is
a
great
one.
You
know
and
good
round
table
to
have.
So
we
could
identify
the
use
cases
and
you
know
baby.
You
know
various
methodologies
where
you
know
AI
ml
can
can
can
can
accelerate.
Maybe
adoption
of
automation.
C
In
another
community
that
I'm
in
the
kubernetes
community,
what
we
generally
do
for
something
like
this
is
there'll,
be
a
the
meeting
will
be
an
hour
long.
It
will
be
there'll,
be
certain
key
projects
that
have
to
give
an
update
on
their
project,
followed
by
somebody
will
give
a
demo
on
something.
So,
for
example,
we
would
say
ml
opts,
would
give
a
demo
of
standardization
or
what
have
you.