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Adam and JJ spend a few moments talking about the streaming experiment, what we liked, and what we think we improve.
tl;dw: We probably are gonna move to youtube streaming, we're gonna recruit a 3rd person, and very excited to see where 2021 takes us.
B
A
A
B
Yes,
I've
been
away
for
a
while
very
busy
with
our
kind
of
end-of-year
project
deadlines.
There's
a
big
thing:
we're
going
to
get
things
done
by
the
end
of
q4,
which
is
only
a
few
weeks
away.
So
it's
kind
of
all
hands
to
the
pump
very,
very
busy
it's
nice
to
kind
of
get
out
of
that
for
a
little
while
and
maybe
to
you,
know,
sit
in
chat
with
you
and
our
audience
and
talk
about
our
twitch,
endeavors
and
cdf
things.
So
it's
a
nice
little
welcome
break.
I
guess
so.
A
A
We
wanted
to
just
kind
of
do
a
wrap
up
kind
of
stream
or
video.
I
should
say
about
what
we've
learned
in
a
couple
of
the
stats
that
we've
had.
Normally,
this
is
like
a
blog
post
or
whatever,
but
in
the
history
of
being
that
adam
and
I
have
suspect
rapport
streaming,
we
figured
hey
what
the
hell,
let's,
let's
just
make
a
video
out
of
it
so
adam.
How
about
we
ask
this
first,
just
straight
question
to
you,
because
this
was
an
experiment.
A
A
B
We
didn't
get
an
actual
interactive
audience
on
twitch,
which
was
kind
of
lame,
but
but
do
you
have
views
on
youtube,
which
is
cool,
so
it's
kind
of
there
are
some
positives,
but
not
as
many
positive
as
I'd
like.
Okay,
I'd
like
us
to
have
a
twitch
audience
to
be
able
to
get.
You
know,
maybe
some
crossovers
and
third
parties
getting
involved
which
we
didn't
achieve
this
year.
But
given
that
people
are
watching
the
videos,
that's
good
and
some
people,
you
know-
must
be
liking
it,
and
hopefully
we
found
is
useful.
B
So
if
one
person
one
person
finds
it
useful,
you
know
drop
us
a
comment
somewhere
just
to
say
hey,
you
know
that's
great
because
in
every
day
does
my
opinion
really
matter
that
much
on
this
not
really
because
you're
doing
it
for
you're
doing
it
for
an
audience.
It's
like.
If
you
appreciate
the
tv
show.
No
one
watches
it
there's
a
little
to
point
in
there's
not
much
point
in
that.
So
I
want
to
see
somebody
just
say:
this
is
cool.
B
A
B
B
A
So
the
best
analogy
I
have,
especially
when
I
talk
to
executives
and
or
like
people
like
jj
you're
spending
a
lot
of
time
in
this
space,
we're
not
seeing
any
like
feedback
like
it's
positive.
Well,
it's
like
starting
a
meetup
in
your
local
town.
You
can
start
a
meetup
as
a
bang.
People
show
up
all
the
time
you
have
like
a
good
10
15
people
showing
you're
showing
off
some
emacs
or
vi.
A
Replays
shows
that
there
is
value
here.
The
biggest
video
we
had
on
our
streams
was
actually
our
third
stream
on
on
sorry,
the
the
re-watch
was
the
highest
number,
which
was
our
third
stream,
which
was
github
and
techton
triggers
it's
a
turns
out
triggers
are
hard
inside
of
the
teton
ecosystem
and
obviously
people
were
like.
Oh,
this
is
a
like.
I've
been
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
get
this
thing
to
work.
A
It's
one
of
those
arguments
when
you
write
your
blog
post
titles,
you
put
the
problem
or
the
error
inside
the
blog
post
that
you
see
and
then,
when
somebody
googles
for
it,
it
hits
that
error,
and
then
you
have
a
blog
post,
explaining
what
the
hell
is
going
on.
So
for
me,
the
grand
scheme
of
things
in
a
very
long
waited
way.
I
genuinely
think
it's
worth
it
and
I
want
to
continue
going
down
this,
especially
it
gives
us
an
opportunity,
as
you
said,
to
learn
yeah.
B
Because
it
makes
us
basically
have
a
diverse
set
of
skills
right
now,
I'm
focusing
on
operators,
100,
writing
operators
right
how
open
shift
and
it's
nice
supposed
to
step
back
and
do
these
cool
things,
and
you
know
you
want
to
be
able
to
kind
of
gain
a
a
pulse
what
the
community
wants
and
what
I've
learned
from
that
sentence.
There
is
that
takedown
is
quite
difficult
in
places
and
there's
a
reason.
People
are
going
to
that
page.
So
you
know
if
I
was
a
full-time
contributor
to
techtorn
or
I
was
looking
to
use
tekton.
B
I
would
know
to
focus
my
attention
for
some
user
experience
than
a
particular
avenue
so
you're
using
you
know
that
view
count
and
the
interactions
it'd
be
nice
to
kind
of
see
our
data
being
used
in
that
kind
of
that
kind
of
way.
You
know
maybe
developing
let's
say
it's
a
new
cisd
project
or
it's
jenkins,
x,
you're,
going
to
use
them.
You
can
go
out
there
and
do
your
research
and
say
you
know
what
there's
a
lot
of
these
videos
on
it,
and
actually
it's
quite
difficult.
B
A
A
So
so
we
do
yeah.
We
actually
do
get
a
couple
comments
here
and
there
they're
very,
very
sporadic,
but
that
to
me
is
one
of
those
things
of
like,
oh
okay,
so
that
that
that
came
in
and
I
hadn't
actually
looked
at
any
of
the
comments
because,
as
they
say,
you
should
never
read
the
comments
that
was
always
fun,
but
here,
let's,
let's
quickly
switch
gears.
So
I
pulled
some
stats
adam.
A
How
many
tech
time
streams
did
we
do
this
year
we
used
five
techno
streams,
okay,
and
how
many
jenkins
x
streams
three
three
and
then
screwdriver
just
the
bottom.
Okay,
so
that's
a
total
of
nine
streams
we
targeted
every
other
week,
or
so
we
didn't
always
get
to
hit
that,
but
we
did
pretty
well
on
that
and
how
many
total
hours
did
we
actually
stream
this
year?.
B
It'd,
be
nice
to
just
click
off
a
little
bit
nice
to
do
an
evaluation
just
to
say
how
many
of
those
hours
was
spent
debugging
things
and
then
to
break
that
down
into
like
networking
versus
system
volumes
or
other
kind
of
things
nice
to
a
little
analysis
on
that,
because
I'm
generally
curious,
you
know.
Yes,
you
can
evaluate
what
your
audience
thinks,
but
you
can
also
buy
what
your
producers
think
I'd
like
to
know
how
we
can
get
better
as
a
community.
B
A
Absolutely
so,
let's
say
so
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things
we've,
we
we're
just
kind
of
a
little
bit
annoyed
with
no
feedback.
I
mean
we
do
get
random
comments
here
and
there,
but
actual
streaming
didn't
actually
seem
to
benefit
us,
or
at
least
real
time.
Maybe
we
just
picked
bad
times
to
stream.
That's
also
a
possibility.
A
A
B
B
In
addition,
let's
say
if
the
east,
asia
or
let's
say
it's
a
china
audience
or
japan,
they're,
probably
asleep
by
the
time,
we're
streaming
and
so
the
india
folks,
I
would
say:
well,
we
have
the
china
folks
just
waking
up,
but
indian
folks
may
be
asleep.
So
there's
all
considerations
for
time
zones
and
I
like
to
think
you
have
to
make
good
content
and
put
out
at
the
right
time.
B
You'd
have
the
greatest
tv
show
in
the
world,
but
if
you're
not
available
on-
let's
say
you
know:
netflix
sugar,
amazon,
prime,
whatever
you're,
not
on
any
of
the
major
platforms.
You
want
some
obscure
time
like
you
know,
3
30
in
the
morning,
and
you
want
for
an
hour.
You
can
make
the
best
content
in
the
world
you're
going
to
get
a
cult
following
not
like
a
majority
of
thing.
So
something
is
to
be
said.
I
think
for
the
time-
and
maybe
it's
the
case
that
we
we
do
things
like.
B
We
do
for
virtual
conferences,
by
which
I
mean
you
record
something
in
advance,
but
you
play
at
a
later
time
and
you're
available
in
the
chat.
So
if
you've
got
a
question
we
can
say
yes,
that's
a
great
idea
for
next
stream,
then
you
lose
a
little
bit
of
your
authenticity
because
it's
nice
to
have
an
audience
say.
Actually
you
need
to
change
this.
So
it's
a
two.
Is
it
the
way
I
explore?
I
don't
know
how
to
deal
with
it.
To
be
honest,
that
was
one
challenge.
A
Yeah
I
was
going
to
throw
the
wrenching
and
the
whole
idea,
and
just
say
why
don't
we
move
to
youtube
and
just
leverage
the
cloud
foundation's
subscribers
there
and
then
just
when
we
make
sure
that
we're
not
not
when
we're
doing
it
like
just
drop
twitch
completely
right
and
just
be
like
well,
our
audience
is
on
youtube.
So
we
should
probably
strand
this
directly
to
youtube
and
then
also
we
don't
worry
about
uploading
stuff
right.
We
can
still
use
the
same
tooling
that
we
have.
A
B
B
A
That
but
let's
let's,
let's
talk
about
a
couple
other
things
that
we're
looking
for
2021.:
what?
What
out
of
all
those
big
lists
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
right
now,
which
really
isn't
that
big?
What
do
you
think
is
the
most
important
thing
that
we
should
try
to
get
in
2021
as
our
little
stream
goes,
an
audience
hey,
okay,
that
was
that
was
easy.
I.
B
Just
want
to
be
able
to
say:
oh
look,
it's
not
regular!
So
when
you
know
let's
say
everything
goes
well
of
course,
virus
situations
and
people
are
back
on
the
road
and
traveling
and
enjoying
being
outdoors.
You
can
go
to
a
conference
somewhere,
you
know,
maybe
it's
cdcon
devops
world
whatever
or
any
obscure
conference.
There's
nothing
to
do
with
us
and
you
can
have
somebody
say.
B
That
person
from
xyz-
and
you
did
a
great
video
on-
I
don't
know
tech
time
triggers
and
because
of
that,
my
company
has
started
using
it
or
didn't
start
using
it.
They
made
them
build
something
better
or
they
went
elsewhere
just
to
have
someone
know
you
from
being
technically
good
in
this
space
and
helpful.
That
is
my
priority.
A
Yeah,
that's
that's,
that's
very,
very
valuable.
I
I
like
it
a
close
second
to
me
is:
I
think
we
should
recruit,
try
to
get
someone
else
into
the
mix
here.
That's
willing
to
to
stand
up
and
and
be
part
of
our
our
little
cabal
yeah
having
tawan
here
was
in
and
initially
when
we
first
started
and
we
weren't
so
comfortable.
There
was
some
like
weird
ways
of
us
talking.
A
If
you
watch
the
videos
like
you
could
tell
that
we
weren't
too
sure
what
to
do,
but
I
think
now
that
you
and
I
are
both
pretty
well
experienced
and
streaming
and
have
a
rapport,
I
think,
bringing
someone
else
into
the
conversation.
So
it's
a
completely
different
viewpoint
would
be
wonderful.
Now,
I'm
going
to
just
ask
if
you
are
watching
this
video
and
you've
gotten
to
this
point-
and
you
are
interested
in
in
doing
this-
please
reach
out
to
us
there's
multiple
different
ways.
A
B
Yeah,
please
don't
think
of
any
boundaries.
You
know
like.
Oh
I
work
at
a
company
or
I'm
a
student
or
an
employed
or
I'm
a
it
doesn't
matter.
You
know.
Just
just
let
us
know
who
you
are
what
you
know
what
I
think
you
can.
You
know
be
comfortable
with
doing
and
regardless
have
a
look
at,
and
you
know,
assess
things
and
say
yep
or
if
only
you
had
these
abilities
in
these
kind
of
specialties.
B
You'd
be
great
for
this
stream,
maybe
or
maybe
for
this
stream
the
next
week,
because
I
don't
want
us
to
be
focused
all
on
the
cdf
kind
of
skill
set.
You
know
the
city
thing.
It
should
be
in
my
mind,
crossovers
that
make
it
interesting,
which
means
maybe
you're
doing
a
web
app
development
or
maybe
doing
ios
development
or
android
development,
and
you
want
to
then
use
tekton
or
you
want
to
then
use.
Let's
say
you
know
spinnaker
or
anything
like
screwdriver.
B
Maybe
it's
that
crossover
thing
that
would
make
it
very
interesting
because
then
you
can
get
one,
you
get
more
views
from
multiple
audiences,
but
two
you
get
visible
perspectives
and
we
then
learn
more,
but
as
an
audience
as
producers.
So,
for
example,
I
did
a
lot
of
work
with
react
a
year
ago
and
I
enjoyed
making
web
applications
in
react.
It
was
quite
fun.
B
Of
jenkins
x
and
then
I
basically
would
then
benefit
from
knowing
how
to
do
it
next
time
around
and
going
back
to
what
I
like,
which
is
basically
being
as
react.
So
I
think,
don't
be
afraid
of
what
your
current
skill
setting
ability
is.
Just
just
let
us
know,
because
we
can
probably
fill
you
in
somewhere
and
it's
nice
to
have
that
diverse
range
of
backgrounds,
so
yeah.
A
B
Big
ass,
okay,
so
it's
an
easy
one,
getting
jenkins
x3
working,
so
I
think
it
took
three
streams
to
get
working,
but
basically
we
tried
using
jenkins
x.
I
think
it
was
jingle
x
two
at
the
time
and
james
and
james
were
like
no.
No,
no,
no!
No!
No!
No,
please
use
three,
and
I
thought
you
say
that.
But
two
is
your
latest
thing
greatest,
so
we
tried
two:
it
didn't
work
on
ourselves
and
then
we
basically
was
like
you
know
what
I
can't
even
go
to
three
and
we
spent
a
while
pulling
images.
B
It
work
in
it
was
quite
slick,
quite
easy,
quite
nice,
I
think
jj.
I
think
you
did
a
follow-up,
video
yep,
which
was
just
jenkins,
I
think
and
felt
good.
Maybe
it
shouldn't
have
felt
good,
because
maybe
it
should
have
been
perfect
first
time,
but
it
was
when
it
was
quite
in
its
early
stages
and
I
think
martha
james
was
doing
a
product
maturity
matrix
at
the
time,
testing
different
platforms
so
being
able
to
contribute
to
the
testing
of
it.
B
B
I
think,
above
that
community
and
to
ourself,
not
football
viewers,
so
for
me,
getting
jenkins
x,
just
working
getting
a
simple
project
going,
so
you
know
protect
on
things
made
and
then
seeing
go
for
a
few
weeks,
how
they
made
it
better
with
all
the
new
custom
resource
commands-
and
you
know
other
actions
you
saw
it
improve,
and
I
thought
that's
quite
organic,
because
they're
changing
things
as
we're
saying
things,
it
was
good,
so
yeah
kudos
to
jenkins
x
folks.
It
was
good
that
was
my
personal
highlight
awesome.
A
What
about
you?
Well,
I
was
just
gonna
parrot
the
same
thing
about
jenkins
x.
The
journey
we
went
through,
even
though
it
was
challenging
the
journal
that
we
went
to.
We
actually
did
if
you,
if
you
were
a
developer
in
this
world
and
you
were
like,
I
have
I've,
been
told
to
use
jenkins
x
right,
like
by
my
my
team
or
whatever,
and
I
got
you
get
it
got
up
and
running.
I
believe
we
went
through
that
journey
that
you
would,
as
that
person
have
to
do
you,
try
to
learn
it.
A
I
could
see
some
real
value
there,
but
to
highlight
what
you
said
a
moment
ago.
The
highlighted
highlight,
I
guess,
jenga's
x,
moves
really
fast,
so
we
saw
significant
differences
in
weekly
changes.
Right,
like
like
there
were
commands
that
just
appeared
out
of
nowhere.
They
were
like
this
wasn't
here
last
week:
kind
of
thing
right,
which
fine,
that's
cool,
that's
great.
To
show
true
agile
development,
but
at
the
same
time
I
saw
the
power
and
I
saw
the
beauty
of
it.
So
I
came
out.
A
It
didn't
seem
as
robust
as
jenkins
x,
even
though
jenkindex
wasn't
fully
feature
complete,
so
you
could
tell
the
differences
in
in
style
and
development
and
the
target
audience
that
they
were
going
for
which
I
thought
was
really
really
cool
and,
as
someone
is
I
I
wouldn't
normally
have
exposure
to
this
right.
So
I
got.
A
A
We
were
just
lost
because
we
just
didn't
know
right,
and
my
gut
tells
me
that
maybe
we
should
not
like
spend
hours
and
hours
prepping
for
a
stream
or
anything,
but
maybe
it's
worth
spending
a
little
bit
more
time
than
none
on
on
doing
this,
but
that
requires
a
little
bit
more
rigor
and
a
little
bit
more
more
for
thought.
So
where
are
you
coming
from
in
this?
This
idea?
I.
A
B
A
lot
of
what
we
say
is
therefore
knows
and
therefore
irrelevant,
and
therefore
you
don't
want
to
spend
40
minutes
instead
of
lunch
with
your
children
or
your
family
kind
of
thing,
then
you
basically
don't
want
to
spend
40
minutes
of
your
time,
watching
a
video
and
most
of
its
noise.
You
want
little
small
small
things
so
spending
one
hour
doing
a
stream
where
most
of
it
is
chaos.