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C
A
Has
anybody
heard
anything
about
new
management
at
the
cdf.
A
C
C
Okay,
I'm
sharing
yeah,
so
the
agenda
for
today.
C
I
think
we
will
talk
quite
a
lot
about
the
coming
meetups
and
conferences,
different
ideas
around
those
and
what's
to
be
done,
we
first
look
into
the
actions
and
then,
if
we
have
time,
we
will
talk
about
whatever
updates
might
be
from
other
zigs
and
pull
requests
to
issues
if
we
have
time
to
go
there.
C
So
when
it
comes
to
actions
from
previous
meetings,
andrea
should
ask
roxanne
to
announce
the
webinar,
which
is
this
wednesday
and
roxanne
accepted
to
announce
it.
But
now
I
know
that
roxanne
is
off
due
to
sickness
and
I've
reached
out
to
michelle
instead
today,
just
recently,
so
I'm
I
probably
I'm
probably
quite
late
after
this-
I'm
not
sure
what
channel
she
would
announce
it
on,
but
I
gave
it
to
her
too.
C
E
A
Well,
I
would
have
responded
to
it.
I
just
I
just
remember
something
coming
through
on
it.
C
C
C
Captain
tomorrow.
C
C
We
talked
about
that
earlier.
If
we
and
the
proposal
then
was
to
to
launch
it
sometime
during
april,
so
it
doesn't
conflict
with
the
series
con
and
the
silicon.
C
But
now
it
seems
that
they've
got
it
saw
their
way
around.
So
I
guess
it
might
be
an
austin
city
event
compared
at
some
of
these
conferences,
either
the
events
con,
which
is
then
collocated
to
kubecon
or
the
citycom
I
mean
it
would
should
be
then,
together
with
one
of
those
conferences,
it
seems
now
there
is
some
work
to
do
on
this
public
relations
document
still
and
I've
asked
kara
about
what
needs
to
be
done
there.
It's
not
really
clear
yet
I
saw
we
have
a
couple
of
quotes
in
the
document.
C
A
Would
you
put
the
doc
in
the
chat
or
you
probably
did
it.
A
C
C
C
I
hope
still
that
everything
is
is
as
it
is
supposed
to
be
set
up
there
and
that
andrea
and
eric
are
prepared
to
to
present
yeah.
I.
F
Actually
pushed
an
updated
version
of
the
presentation
from
foster
earlier
today
still
need
to
practice
it
a
little
bit,
but
I
had
a
question
there
like
what
are
the?
Are
there
any
recent
events
that
we
should
like
highlight
in
that
presentation,
because
otherwise
it
I
think
it's
pretty
decent,
as
it
was
the
only
I
mean.
The
main
thing
that
has
happened.
That
was
part
of
the
presentation
before
is
that
when
we
presented
it
first
time
the
logo
wasn't
final,
but
now
it
is
so
I
mean
other
than
that.
It's
pretty
much
the
same.
C
B
F
Much
the
same
as
as
last
time
or
as
fast,
but
are
there
any
like
key
takeaways
that
are
different
now
than
what
we
had
before?
Actually,
you
could
open
that
if
you
open
the
markdown
file
and
scroll
to
the
very
end
of
the
file,
just
the
key
takeaways
that
we
want
to
bring
with
us
if
there's
anything
there,
that
is
different.
F
F
F
Have
like
a
good
contact
page
or
something
like
that?
I
think
it's
pretty
decent,
but
this
one
contains
that
form
the
survey
that
I'm
not
sure
if
we
still
want
to
have
other
than
that.
This
is
probably
quite
good.
We
could
just
push
an
update.
C
C
Do
we
do
we
have
a
good
such
place?
I'm
sure
what
else
did
say
on.
C
C
F
F
F
That's
pretty
great,
but
good,
then
I
will
fix
that.
One
issue
that
I
still
have
is
so
the
the
unfortunate
way
this
presentation
is
set
up.
Is
that
me
and
and
they
are
switching
slides
a
lot
and
since
we
will
be
in
different
sites,
that
will
be
a
problem.
My
current
best
thinking,
because
I've
been
searching
all
over
the
place
for
a
solution
for
this.
My
current
best.
F
Is
that
that
we
screen
share
both
in
bevi
and
in
zoom,
and
we
use
the
zoom
remote
control
feature
to
actually
forward
the
slides,
I'm
just
hoping
we
can
do
that
without
having
a
lot
of
zoom
like
banners
and
stuff
showing
up
in
bevvy,
but
because
it
will
be
annoying
or
it
will
be
almost
impossible
to
to
have
like.
Oh
can
you
switch
to
the
next
slide?
Please,
because
we
will
end
up
saying
that
once
every
two
seconds.
F
So
we
have
something
like
a
hundred
slides
in
this
and
and
it's
it's
like
almost
animated
to
some
extent,
and
only
one
person
can
share
unless
we
switch
the
sharing
back
and
forth,
which
would
be
a
solution,
but
I
think
it
would
be
quite
annoying
for
the
audience
yeah.
So
what
ideally,
what
I
would
like
to
have
is
over
the
web
remote,
but
I
can't
find
that
that
exists.
F
It
exists
in
things
like,
what's
it
called
teamviewer
and
things
like
that,
but
that's
overkill
for
what
we
want
to
do
so
yeah,
I'm
still
struggling
to
find
a
good
solution
there.
If
anyone
knows
of
some
some
thing
I
can
install
on
my
computer
so
that
andrea
can
click
next
on
a
web
page
and
that
causes
the
slide
to
move
forward
on
my
machine.
F
C
C
Around
that
yeah
and
then
we
have
to
have
an
open
discussion
and
we
don't
have
really
an
agenda
for
that
open
discussions.
I
guess
everyone
joining
the
meeting
can
put
their
questions
and
we
try
to
answer.
C
F
Maybe
if
it's
like,
if
it's
10
people
in
the
meeting,
we
can
can
ask
each
every
person
to
spend
at
most
30
seconds
introducing
themselves.
Maybe,
but
if
it's
50
people
in
the
meeting,
then
we'll
have
to
just
restrict
to
the
people
who
are
sort
of
sick
events.
Members
or
something
like
that.
I
don't
know
yeah.
C
Let's
see,
I
think
I
can
find
the
I
should
have
heard
this
button
for
this.
Don't
yeah!
Oh,
I
can
see.
Do
you
attend
this
yeah?
I
was
able
to
see
what
attendees
we
have
today
registered
for
the
meetup.
C
And
we
have
two
with
the
same
name,
so
I
guess
this
is
the
same
understanding
from
captain
right.
Yeah
trace.
Yes,
tiny
here
for
two
different
mail
addresses
we're
brad.
We
have
david
eric
leora
oleg
tracy
matthias.
You
won't
join
her.
C
Okay-
okay,
that's
fine
you're,
welcome
to
listen
whenever
they
it
should
be
open
to
be
to
rsvp
until
the
end
of
the
meeting.
Actually,
so
I
hope
it
works.
F
C
E
C
C
C
No
okay,
then
we're
done
with
that.
I
didn't
really
note
anything.
I
don't
think
there
was
anything
outstanding
to
note
really
so
I
started
this
and,
as
an
extra
thing
see
the
events
panel,
I
know
tracy.
We
had
this
idea
some
time
ago
and
you
created
a
document
for
it
where
we
brainstormed
how
we
could
have
set
up
a
formal
panel
rather
for
events.
C
I
guess
that
was
before
we
decided
to
have
it
as
a
webinar
special
meet
up
a
little
more
yeah
undecided
agenda,
but
we
could
still
set
something
up
like
this
as
well.
I
think,
though,
that
and
of
course
we
have
other
conferences
coming
up,
so
so
I'm
not
sure
if
today
how
we
could
attract
people
to
such
a
panel
discussion
when
we
anyway,
we
have
it
during
seed
events
con
right,
we
will
have
a
panel
there
in
the
end,
not
specifically
for
with
just
tedious
people,
but
anyway
there
will
be
a
panel
there.
A
At
is
there
going
to
be
a
cd
events
panel
at
cdcon.
C
C
Get
recorded
and
see
here
I
hope
that
will
be
recorded.
It's
a
bit
unclear.
Actually,
I
saw
some
communication
saying
that
if
we
want
any
video
utilities,
we
need
to
set
it
up
ourselves
and
also
for
the
remote
attendees.
For
some
reason,
so
I
mean
it
should
be
possible
to
attend
virtually
or
maybe
that
was
for
city
wednesday.
No,
I
think
there
was
a
first
city
in
school,
so
it's
a
bit
unclear,
I'm
not
sure.
Maybe
andrea
has
more
information.
When
he's
back,
he
might
have
some
information
in
his
mailbox.
A
B
C
Sure
sure
so
this
panel
will
contain
people
from
seeking
drop
and
from
software
supply
chain,
and
they
will
talk
about
interoperability
and
events
related
tasks.
I
guess
I'm
not.
I
think
that
andrea
would
actually
host
this
panel
or
I
think
so
so
what
questions
that
will
be
brought
up
there.
I
don't
really
know
now.
C
Oh,
so
I
don't
really
have
the
latest
information
there.
I
think,
on
what
exactly
will
be
discussed
on
the
panel,
but
anyway,
I
think
we
for
this
specific.
Let's
see
what
did
I
go
over
and
resilience
panel?
C
E
C
Unfortunately,
I'm
not
really
up
to
date
content
here.
This
is
mainly
prepared
by
andrea,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
we
really
can
do
about
it
right
now.
C
I
saw
that
there
are.
The
seats
are
actually
full
already.
I
saw
in
this
track
channel.
I
haven't
secured
my
own
seat,
yet
I
hope
I
can
still
fit
somehow
I'm
expected
to
to
give
a
presentation,
at
least
so.
I
hope
I
can
at
least
come
in
and
give
the
presentation
somehow
and
still
I
don't
really
know.
If
I,
oh,
I
don't
know
if
I
can
join
in
person
or
not.
F
F
C
C
D
So
for
now
I
I
love
skipping.
C
Yeah,
I
still
have
a
slight
hope:
let's
see
what
happens
with
that
help.
C
C
C
B
A
They
don't
ortilius
didn't
get
a
single
presentation.
I
was.
I
was
actually
really
really
disappointed
in
the
lineup
that
they
did
for
cdcon.
A
Tekton
had
two
spinaker
had
two
jenkins
just
got
olegs
road
map.
Shipwright
got
one
and
screwdriver
and
ortilius
got
zero.
It's
insane.
I
mean
if
I
so
I
have.
I
have
bitched
up
a
storm.
I
have
to
admit.
I
did.
I
made
sure
that
everybody
I
mean
you
know
the
our
open
source
community
said
well
wow.
Maybe
they
don't
love
us.
Maybe
we
should
switch
to
a
different,
a
different
foundation
which.
A
Them
you
know,
I
don't
blame
them
a
bit,
so
no.
There
is
absolutely
no
reason
for
me
to
go
to
cdcon
this
year,
which
is
heartbreaking.
A
Nothing
there's
nothing
there
to
do,
except
here
very
generic
talks.
C
A
B
A
I
have
no
idea
what
they're
doing
with
cdcon
it's.
This
close.
You
know
it's
a
month
away,
basically,
and
I
have
no
clue
what
what
they're
doing
all
I
know
is:
I've
complained
big
time
and
I
said,
you've
got
all
these
to
be
announced,
keynotes
and
stuff
put
some
better
topics
in
there.
I
I
don't
think
they
even
have
they
want.
They
need
800
people
and
I
think
they
have
less
somewhere
around
50
people
registered
for
it.
Whoa.
B
C
B
C
A
You
know
so
it's
weird
it
was.
It
was
it's
a
mess
to
me.
In
my
opinion,
it
is
a
it's
unfortunate
that
the
we
don't
have
management
right
now
that
we
we
can
say
well.
Somebody
needs
to
step
in
and
fix.
A
Yeah,
so
no,
the
answer
is,
I
have
no
good
reason
to
go.
There's
not
any
there's
just
nothing
for
there's
nothing
to
go
to
and
I
pushed.
C
C
C
So
we'll
see,
but
it's
still
some
weeks
away.
Some
of
us
were
meeting
uconn
anyway
or
students.
C
Yeah
and
then
the
next
subject
is
done,
the
setting
up
for
the
launch
of
the
actual
city
events
project.
We
still
have
the
public
relations
documents,
which
hasn't
been
updated
much
lately.
C
We
have
reached
out
to
some
people
to
provide
quotes.
I
don't
know
how
is
it
eric?
Did
you
provide
a
quote
from
I'm.
F
C
C
So
I
added
this
actually
two
weeks
ago
on
our
last
meeting.
So
if
you're
able
to
please
set
it
yes,
it
will
be,
it
will
be
well
accepted
this
one
about
fidelity.
I
actually
tried
to
reach
out
to
jamie
for
a
presentation,
but
I
haven't
really
got
in
contact
with
him,
so
I
can't
really
say
how
to
how
to
make
this
happen.
C
I
hope
that
andrea
will
be
able
to
provide
a
quote
for
ibm.
Now
one
is
simback
and
always
rate
power,
maybe
for
dynatrace.
C
You
see,
I
see
that
olek
has
written
this
from
the
leftover
list,
so
we
have
some
quotes.
Yeah
we
have
one
from
ericsson
and
one
from
did.
A
A
B
C
Okay,
apart
from
that,
I
don't
even
know,
I
think
the
rest
is
more.
That's
there.
C
C
F
F
E
A
Guys
I
gotta
jump
because
I
have
another
call,
but
I
can't
share
that
document.
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
put
steve
chen's
email,
yeah.
A
So
you
can
just.
A
A
All
right-
and
I
will
speak
to
you
guys
next
time,
yeah.
F
B
B
E
C
C
If
it
was
this
way
yeah,
this
went
up
there
good,
so
we
have
recorded
that
link
as
well
yeah
now
I
should
just
add
steve's.
C
F
C
One
of
them,
I
think
there
were
there,
are
two
different
all
right.
I
think
only
one
was
the
merged,
I'm
not
sure
which
one
it
was
now.
Interoperability.
C
F
Yeah
update
initial
proposal-
oh
maybe
that
was
I
don't
know.
Yeah.
C
Okay,
there
yeah
okay,
so
both
are
merged
actually
pipeline
step
and
pipeline
stages.
Okay,
yeah
and
we
have
in
let's
see
sig
events.
C
D
D
C
D
C
D
D
Because
we
have
build
test,
publish
and
deploy,
because
we
don't
have
that
type
of.
D
D
D
Yeah
deployed
created.
D
Whereas
we
don't
have
that
event
nowadays,
it
was
in
the
beginning.
I
think
that
it
was
before
we
actually
were
a
sig
that
we
we
talked
about,
that
one.
D
C
D
D
C
C
D
But
if
it
feels
like,
if
you
have
a
test
to
denote
test,
suites
and
tests
case,
that's
a
good
distinction
and
that
it's
part
of
the
test.
D
C
F
Doesn't
just
boil
back
to
the
discussion
of
generic
activity
messages
versus
specific
activity
messages,
because
I
would
be
fine
with
having
an
activity
message
being
sent
when
the
tests
start
and
then
inside
that
activity.
We
send
test
suites
and
test
case
messages
because
they
are
sort
of
are
inside
the
test
activity.
F
F
C
B
F
C
F
Actually,
that
does
happen
not
to
go
too
far
into
an
anecdote,
but
we
actually
have
a
problem
in
automotive,
where
we
have
compilers
that
we
need
to
request
a
license
for
so
we
can
actually
end
up
in
a
queue
in
the
compiler,
because
the
compiler
hasn't
gotten
its
license
yet,
but
that's
not
how
we
should
design
the
spec.
This
is
something
that
would
you
know,
will.
F
C
So
anyway,
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
dig
into
that
in
too
much
detail,
I
think
or
matias
do
you
want
us
think
that
we
are
aligned
or
when
we
can
close
it
or.
D
Yeah
that
was
but
I
wanted
to
like
check
with
anne-marie.
So
maybe
we
should
explicitly
ask
her.
Should
we.
D
Yeah,
as
you
were
looking
at
an
old
document,
and
do
you
still
think
this
is
valid
or
can
we
close
it.
C
Of
course,
we
had
event
names
in
bold
hair,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
other
texts
which
might
not
all
be
in
line
with
what
she
describes,
but
whenever
we
at
least
continuously
now
add
more
events.
We
should
refer
to
this
and
relate
to
this
this
document
and
see
if
we
agree
or
not
when
we
set
the
names
of
our
events
and
try
to
not
need
to
change
too
much.
C
E
D
Could
maybe
use
that
as
those
tests,
as
maybe
a
I
don't
know,
subject
or
or
main
subject
or
something.
D
C
C
C
So
one
outcome
from
this
could
be
that
everything
that
is
defined
as
a
step
here
should
have
their
own
event
types
in
seed
events.
That's
that's
one
possible
outcome.
At
least
I
don't
really
know
if
it
makes
sense
to
have
all
these
step
names
as
event
types
but
as
we
have
built
today,
why
don't
we
have
the
rest
as
well.
C
F
C
So
I
should
so.
This
is
quite
a
substantial
setting
of
the
the
core
structure
of
the
event
types
which
is
quite
important
to
get
yeah
to
some
extent
right.
But
I
will.