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A
B
A
A
A
All
right
I'd
say:
let's
get
started
then,
thanks
for
joining
today,
everyone
good
to
see
you
all
for
the
gender.
Today
we
start
with
a
usual
review
of
action
items
from
the
last
meetings.
A
First
was
for
me
to
ask
about
the
events:
cd
dot
cd
domain,
which
done
we're
waiting
for
the
response
I
made
to
go
back
to
the
crease
and
see
if
there
is
any
update
on
that
next,
one
steve
to
share
his
ideas
and
spdx
and
yeah.
I
think
we
discussed
we're
going
to
schedule
at
some
point
for
this
steve.
B
Yeah
well,
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
let's
get
through
the
project
proposal
and
once
we
get
that
off
our
list,
then
we
can
circle
back
around
for
spdx.
A
B
Yeah,
I
don't
know
if
there's
some
comments
on
the
pr.
If
we
could,
if
you
just
share
the
pr
and
we
can
walk
through
it
and
kind
of
get
that
wrapped
up.
B
A
A
B
B
So
I'll
go
ahead
and
remove
the
extra
lists
that
aren't
needed.
Oh,
do
we
have
a
a
group
email
list.
A
Right
so
I
created
this
city
events
dev,
for
now
it's
it's
private
so
but
like
yeah,
I
created
it
just
to
reserve
the
name,
and
then
we
can
discuss
how
to
say
how
we
want
to
set
it
up
later
in
the
meeting.
B
B
And
then
the
next
one
here
about
the
issue
tracking,
so
we
it
does
make
sense
to
move
the
issues
from
the
c,
the
cd
foundation
over
to
the
cd
events
organization,
with
that,
I
think
we're
gonna
need
a
placeholder
repo
for,
like
the
readme,
the
overall
license
the
governance
document
and
something
that
we
can
tie
the
issues
to
so
right.
Now,
if
you
look
at
the
repos,
we
have,
we
have
the
spec,
the
the
poc,
I
think,
was
one
of
the
other
ones.
A
B
Yeah
either
way
we
just
make
it
need
to
make
a
decision
where
it's
gonna
go,
so
we
can
just
reference
it
here.
A
Right,
I
would
go
for
spec
to
keep
it
simple:
fewer
repos
less
were
red
and
somebody
wants
to
create
an
issue
for
the
spec.
It's
just
respect.
People.
B
B
To
add
the
governance
stock
yep,
but
that's
where
for
now
I
think
I
have
the
those
things
kind
of
handled,
because
we
have
the
sig,
but
in
general
I'll
use
that
as
the
the
main
repo
page
now
with
that
said,
should
we
turn
on
to
have
like
a
website
or
any
presence?
Should
we
use
github
pages
off
of
the
spec
repo,
then,
for
now,
until
we
get
the
domain
and
all
that
set
up
or
not
worry
about
it,.
A
B
B
C
Just
a
question
there
to
clarify
that
I
see,
for
example,
cloud
atoms.
They
have,
they
have
their
own
repo
for
the
source
files
for
the
web.
C
A
B
And
then
yeah,
when
we
break
out
away
from
github
pages,
we'd
want
to
create
a
website
repo
that
has
the
so
like
with
ortelius.
B
We
use
a
doxy
hugo
server
because
it
it
basically
doxy
and
hugo
the
website's
based
on
markdown.
So
it's
real
easy
for
anybody
to
edit
and
make
comments
to
and
change
it.
B
B
I've
seen
that
done
before,
where
you
have
a
branch
for
like
sbdx,
has
a
branch
for
the
version,
one
one.x
and
then
they
you
know
the
other
2.0
version
and
you
can
switch
switch
to
see
which
spec
you
want
to
look
at.
A
Yeah
the
the
version
selector
is
supported
out
of
the
box
by
the
doxy
template
in
protect
them.
We
have
multiple
components
with
multiple
versions,
so
that's
a
bit
more
complex,
but
with
just
a
spec
and
different
version.
It
should
just
work
out
of
the
box
perfect.
B
B
B
A
All
right
mailing
list
get
in
the
comment
there.
B
No,
we
did
it
right
there.
It's
like
this,
the
second
from
the
last
one.
B
Yeah
right
there
bootstrap
so
because
we
have
the
kind
of
the
governance
stock
at
the
the
sig
level,
just
using
that
as
our
starting
point
for
as
part
of
the
proposal
and
then
eventually
we'll
need
a
a
regular
governance
body
to
be
created
as
part
of
the
project
itself,
but
that
I
don't
think
that
having
a
full
governance
body
in
place
automatically
right,
you
know
day,
one
with
the
project
isn't
gonna
be
required.
A
Okay,
yeah,
I
think
it
makes
sense
we
can.
We
can
propose
this.
A
And
if
that's,
if
that
works,
it's
okay.
Otherwise
we
can
add
a
simple
governance
document
into
the
spec
repo,
where
we
basically
say
that
the
yeah
we
have
a
trump
governance
and
the
members
are
responsible
for
setting
up
the
full
governance.
A
Yeah
sure,
but
I
thought
I
mean
we
discussed
in
the
past-
that
we
wanted
to
to
have
the
governance
of
the
project
eventually
being
able
to
to
be
independent
from
that
of
the
sig,
so
that
people
wants
to
be
part
of
that
governance
for
the
project.
But
they
don't
want
to
to
have
the
same
role
in
the
sig.
It
would
be
possible.
F
A
B
So,
instead
of
having
the
sig
under
the
cd
foundation,
the
sig
would
be
under
the
cd
events
project,
just
just
to
kind
of
consolidate
everything.
That's
all
that's
what
my
thought
process
is.
A
It's
just
I
mean
the
the
scope
of
the
sig
might
go
beyond
the
city
events
project.
A
Eventually
so
maybe
it
makes
sense
to
to
keep
it
under
the
cdf
but
yeah.
I
don't
know
that
would
be
my.
A
C
So
then,
I
guess
the
initial
during
the
initial
phase,
we
will
govern
it
today
by
the
second
and
then
later
on.
B
That
was
my
thought
process
was
to
follow
the
same.
Take
take
this
this
the
sig
governance
as
the
bootstrap
for
now,
because
it
has,
you
know,
list
of
people
that
are
in
charge
of
the
sig
and
things
like
that
and
just
move
that
as
our
starting
point
or
use
that
I
won't
say,
move
it,
but
use
that
as
the
starting
point.
H
And
you
can
use
that
as
a
starting
point
for
making.
If,
if
you
wanted
to
have
slightly
more
formal
governance,
you
could
have
a
bootstrap
committee,
which
I
helped
set
up
for
jenkins
x,
which
was
entirely
based
on
tecton's
bootstrap
community,
so
andrea
you're,
probably
familiar
with
that.
B
So
the
last
kind
of
question
is:
are
we
good
for
this
after
we
make
these
go
through
and
make
these
last
few
changes?
Are
we
good
to
present
it
tomorrow
at
the
the
toc,
or
do
we
want
to
wait
two
weeks.
A
A
minor
comment
that
I
had
it
was
that
maybe
we
are
not
only
going
to
do
cloud
events,
but
that's
at
least
what
we
are
starting
with.
So
I
think
that's
fine
too,
to
have
it
marked
as
cloud
events
in
the
in
this
stage,
at
least.
G
Yeah,
I
actually
thought
of
the
same
thing
and
I
in
one
of
my
review
comments.
I
actually
added
cloud
events
won
instead,
but
I
also
think
that
we
can.
We
can
say
that
we
are
dependent
on
cloud
events
right
now,
but
we
might
change
it
later
on.
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
state
that
here
that
we
might
support
more
more
frameworks
or
whatever,
but.
E
Yeah,
open
telemetry
traceability
events
could
initially
consume
cd
events
specification
right
now,
so
basically
you
can
use
cb
events
specification
as
payload
4.
telemetry.
If
you
want.
A
B
Can
add
in
there
that,
on
that
line
seven
there,
that
we
suspect
that
the
cd
events
may
span
or
grow
outside
of
cloud
events
as
needs
arise.
A
What
we
want
to
have
in
there,
let's
just
to
set
a
comment
so
that
you,
when
you
do
the
final
version,
you
have
a
launcher.
A
B
The
only
thing
that
I
noticed
this
was
really
coming
from
the
the
the
cdf
side,
oleg
in
the
project,
template
and
then
the
project
kind
of
just
the
proposal
description.
It
didn't
say
I
don't
recall
it
saying
anything
about
the
logo
transfer.
I
know
at
the
the
linux
foundation
assets
like
artwork
and
trademarks
and
things
like
that
get
transferred
to
the
linux
foundation.
B
E
The
trace
send
me
the
checklist.
There
are
some
comments
about
that,
but
yeah.
I
believe
that
this
particular
one
is
missing.
So
I'd
comment
about
a
patent
transfer,
but
I
didn't
think
about
logo
licenses.
So
if
you
could
submit
a
ticket
for
tracey,
it
can
just
remain
in
the
backlog
until
the
next
update.
E
Thank
you
but
yeah.
I
believe
that
it's
implied
that
we
expect
trademarks,
august,
etc
to
be
also
transferred
to
the
linux
foundation.
The
question
is
this
license
because,
for
example,
jenkins
center,
this
license
that's
creative
commands,
but
it's
not
the
case
for
all
projects.
B
Right-
and
I
know
like
the
artwork
like
you
said-
is
creative
commons
and
the
source
codes
like
apache
2..
So
it's
like
a
split
license
at
the
project
level.
B
So
just
to
circle
back
around
do
we
want
andre
and-
and
I
to
propose
this
tomorrow
to
the
tlc,
or
does
everybody
want
to
wait
two
weeks
and
go
through
any
last
minute
things
I'll
be
able
to
make
those
small
changes
today,
but
just
in
general.
E
C
E
So
the
current
version
looks
good
yeah.
We
have
three
toc
members
on
this
call,
so
I
think
that
we
can
align
that
it's
perfectly
fine,
that
there
are
some
remaining
items.
E
It's
not
like
you're,
going
to
change
the
license
after
the
presentation
that
you
see
right.
B
So
now
our
that's
all,
that's
all
sorted
out
like
it
like
we
said
it's
just
the
only
thing
would
be
adding
a
few
comments
around
the
governance.
B
A
All
right
cool
yeah,
thanks
steve
for
driving
this
forward.
A
All
right,
then,
keep
going
for
the
action
items
on
the
agenda
next,
one
crazy
to
reach
out
to
the
city
foundation
online,
meetup,
organizers,
crazy.
I.
D
Still
haven't
heard
anything
from
garema,
and
so
carl
that
might
be
something
you
might
need
to
do.
H
Right
the
information
I
have
regarding
this
is
that
from
next
year
the
cdf
will
be
using
bevy
for
community
groups,
and
this
is
similar
to
what
the
cncf
is
doing.
The
relaunch
won't
happen
until
next
year,
but
we
will
start
reaching
out
to
the
community
to
find
folks
who
can
help
lead.
The
various
groups.
E
So
for
this
particular
event,
I'm
ready
to
host
it
if
needed,
I
do
have
access
to
cdf
yeah.
D
So
I
guess
the
question
I
think
the
question
is:
is
there
gonna
be
any
cdf
online
meetups
next
year
or
not
not
until
they
move
to
bevi.
H
H
My
understanding
gorima
is
taking
it
over
and
she's
sort
of
leading
the
ambassador
program
as
well,
because
the
platform's
still
being
set
up.
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
calendar
yet.
E
Yeah
right
so
anyway,
we
can
host
meetup
in
some
way.
So,
for
example,
if
the
migration
isn't
over,
we
can
do
it
in
zoom,
because
nobody
closes
down
zoom
accounts.
We
still
need
them
yeah
the
problem,
whether
we
do
it
on
meetup.com,
it's
not
a
big
deal.
I
can
post
linkedin
event
for
cdf,
for
example,
on
the
new
platform.
So
it's
an
implementation
detail
message
for
me:
it's
just.
I
have
a
couple
of
people
who
are
ready
to
host
it,
find
a
calendar
schedule.
H
That
that
sounds
great,
oh,
like
is
there
anything
that
you
need
me
to
do
used
to
be
the
cdf
to
help
make
that
happen.
E
Okay,
awesome
also
yeah
as
we
go.
It
would
be
nice
to
understand
what
would
be
the
player
the
platform
in
a
particular
time
I
mean
so
if
baby
is
a
daughter,
then
we
go
this
baby.
I'm
also
looking
forward
to
try
it
out
in
the
junkies
community
because
we
haven't
tried
it
yet,
but
yeah.
Otherwise,
I'm
ready
to
host.
D
And
and
I
have
stepped
down
as
host,
so
I
was
asked
to
step
down
as
host,
so
if
it's
out
there
to
grab,
I
would
have
thought
grima
would
have
grabbed
it.
Maybe
you
could
just
work
with
grima
to
schedule
some,
I'm
I'm
not
sure
how
to
do
it.
E
A
Okay,
is
that
fair,
yeah,
okay.
A
All
right
anything
else
on
this.
A
No
all
right
next
one
create
google
group.
I
started
creating
a
group
called
city
events
dash
dev,
like
techton
kennedy.
We
still
a
lot
of
approaches,
they
have
a
dash
dev
and
the
dash
users
groups.
A
E
There
is
one
generic
question
for
me
is:
are
we
expected
to
use
google
groups
because,
for
example,
the
liberty
foundation
uses
another
service
junk
mailing,
please
I
mean
even
cdf2c
is
not
on
google
groups.
It's
on
how
it's
called.
E
G
B
B
As
the
project
we
can
kind
of
decide-
and
I
would
say
I
like
using
the
google
groups
because
then
you,
if
you
have
any
like
any
presentations
or
slides,
you
can
share
that
to
the
group
itself.
If
the
google
docs
and
the
drive
folders
can
be
shared
through
to
the
google
group,
so
administration
of
sharing
documents
and
things
like
that
is
much
easier
than
you
know
having
to
do
it
in
two
places.
E
A
Yeah
we
do
use
google
groups
or
tacton,
so
I
don't
think
there
is.
There
should
be
any
problem
really.
I
I
don't
think
any
other
project
that
joined
cdf
was
asked
to
change
their
yeah
distribution-based
platform.
So.
A
Okay,
so
well,
we
can.
We
can
check
that
anyways
first,
and
it
is
that
okay
to
to
keep
the
approach
of
having
two
lists,
one
for
developers
and
one
for
users
prefer
to
have
just
one.
B
I
prefer
just
to
have
one
at
this
point.
It
just
kind
of
consolidates
everything
going
on,
but
I
can
foresee
that
down
the
road
that
we
would
need
to
one
for
people
to
ask
questions
about
the
spec,
which
would
make
sense
for
the
user
one
and
one
for
developers
to
communicate.
So
if
we
wanted
to
keep
it
split
right
at
the
beginning,
that
works
either
way.
A
A
Any
other
votes
shall
we
then
wait
for
the
confirmation
and
from
oleg
after
he
has
a
chat
with
tracy,
and
then
we
can
open
this
up,
and
if
you
I
can,
I
can
invite
nothing
you
can
see.
If
I
mark
this
to
anyone
on
the
web,
then
people
should
be
able
to
just
discover
the
group
and
themselves
right.
A
E
Services
like
streaming
to
youtube
enabled
so
it
doesn't
matter
from
which
account
we
do
the
presentation
in
terms
of
permissions
in
terms
of
user
accounts,
webinar
features.
All
accounts
are
the
same
because
we
use
enterprise
hotel
zoom
account
from
the
linux
foundation.
B
E
Basically,
the
same
applies
to
other
resources
like
youtube
channels,
but
right
now
we
have
a
pending
question
regarding
ownership,
because
the
cdf
transfer
checklist
doesn't
include
ownership
for
any
kind
of
social
media.
At
the
moment,
it's
also
a
great
zone,
and
I
try
to
find
information
in
the
cncf.
Apparently,
it's
a
grayson
means
in
the
cncf
as
well.
I'm
not
sure
how
they
manage
it,
but
yeah
from
project
sustainability
standpoint.
I
would
assume
that
the
linux
foundation
would
prefer
to
have
access
and
to
have
ownership,
social
media
and
other
official
channels.
Okay,.
A
All
right,
moving
on
the
last
action
item
on
the
agenda
was
for
me
to
check
tweetdeck,
which
I've
not
done
so
I'll,
give
it
action
item
next
time.
A
Okay,
next,
as
updates
from
other
groups
cdf2c,
we
discussed
this
already
ctv
events
for
the
presentation
on
the
talk
we
agreed.
G
Yeah,
I
actually
added
that
to
the
minutes
here,
because
we
talked
about
that
on
the
interrupt
meeting
last
thursday
and
if
I
remember
correctly
now,
I
should
have
revisited
them
after
this,
but
they
I
mean
fatty
or
cara.
You
were
supposed
to
to
remove
the
events
part
right
from
the
roadmap.
Future
roadmap
work
right
and
leave
it
to
us
in
this
group.
H
G
Yeah
yeah
more
or
less
yeah
information,
and
if
someone
objects,
of
course
you
can,
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
open
it
up
and
look
at
it.
But
if
you're
interested,
I
guess
in
interoperability,
world
maps,
you
can
look
it
up
and
comment
whatever,
but
at
least
the
events
part
has
been
there
and
it
will
be
removed
and
from
from
the
future
or
not.
I
believe.
H
Recently,
largely
best
practices
is
working
on
a
series
of
of
doc's
sort
of
information
site
for
cdf
best
practices.
There's
not
been
much
in
the
discussion
that
I
have
heard
in
the
last
few
meetings
that
is
specific
to
events.
E
I'm
about
participating
in
best
practices
going
forward,
so
for
me,
timing
has
been
quite
bad
but
yeah.
Otherwise,
I
would
like
to
participate
because
I'm
currently
working
with
inner
search
commands
on
ci
cd
patterns
for
inner
source,
so
I
do
have
interest
in
participating
in
these
meetings
anyway.
H
Okay,
and
and
just
to
be
clear,
though
the
docs
that
are
being
worked
on,
are
actually
going
to
be
put
as
a
site
so
like
a
doxy
site.
F
We
discussed
a
bit
about
like
what
do
we
want
to
have
ready
before
we
start
going
out
with
more
force
in
february
next
year
and
steve
suggested
to
like
find
three
or
four
interesting
practical
use
cases.
F
A
Okay,
then
we
are
done
with
the
updates.
A
Emil,
I
think
you
you
added
this
next
items
to
the
gender.
Do
you
want
to
discuss
them
or
present
them.
G
Yeah,
I
guess
we
have
already
talked
about
some
parts
of
this,
so
this
is
about
them
in
the
cities
set
up
now,
since
we
have
set
the
name
and
everything.
So
the
project
proposal
is
already
it's
already
been
discussed
before
I
joined
today.
Is
there
anything
else
on
those
bullets?
We
all
did
mention
bootstrap
committee
right
somehow,
but
that
might
be
added,
but
we
don't
need
it
before
the
proposal
is
accepted
or
whatever.
E
A
I
mean,
if
it
taps
I
can.
I
can
create
a
governance
md
in
the
sick
event,
spec
repo,
mentioning
what
we
said
saying
that
we'll
start
with
the
bootstrap
and
keep
the
sig
events
governance
as
a
reference,
as
we
begin
with,
or
I
can
set
up
even
an
independent
governance,
dot
md.
B
We
should
probably
drop
in
a
code
of
conduct
as
well
as
part
of
that,
or
we
can
just
refer
in
the
project
proposal
up
to
the
cdf
code
of
conduct.
E
E
I
think
so
so
we're
adopted
to
the
zipping
jenkins,
because
we
explicitly
had
the
issue
with
maintaining
code
of
conduct
in
community
resources
outside
of
project
resources,
because
we
have
quite
a
big
community
which
is
scattered
across
multiple
things
and
not
some
things
are
loosely
affiliated
with
jenkins,
so
fast
contributor.
Covenant
2.0
was
essential,
I'm
not
sure
whether
other
projects
and
whether
linux
foundation
recommends
it
by
default.
B
Yeah,
I've
yeah,
I'm
I'm
fine,
adopting
that
one,
that's
the
2.0
being
the
latest
and
greatest
makes
sense.
So
I
can
copy
that
from
jenkins
and
put
it
into
the
spec
and
just
tailor
to
the
cd
events.
If
that
works
with
everybody.
E
I
would
recommend
copying
contributor
covenant
from
its
sources,
I'll
put
a
link
to
the
to
the
nodes
what's
important.
Firstly,
there
is
other
play
version
2.1,
which
has
been
recently
announced.
E
Secondly,
contributor
command
is
basically
a
template
and
in
jenkins
we
had
to
do
some
updates
in
order
to
match
the
template
with
our
established
community
governance.
So,
for
example,
actually
escalation
destinations
some
bits
of,
let's
say
how
we
process
bonds,
etc,
because
we
have
technical
implementation,
we
wanted
to
keep
trying.
E
E
A
I
think
we
we
touched
shortly
on
on
the
question:
did
you
put
here
email
what
happens
to
this
week?
Events
if
there
is
a
disease
attack
or
city
events,
the
seek
event
should
stay
or
should
it
be
or
should
be
its
mission,
and
maybe
that's
something
that
we
should
tackle
in
the
next
meeting
with
a
bit
more
time,
so
we
can
come
to
a
decision.
H
A
That
we
have
enough
mission
beyond
the
project.
Not
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know.
If
that's,
maybe
it's
a
conversation
for
next
time,
as
we
only
have
four
minutes
left.
Yes,
is
there
anything
critical
from
a
time
perspective
that
we
need
to
discuss
in
the
last
three
minutes?
H
H
On
there
for
the
landscape,
if
you
all
can
just
it
can
be
done,
async
entirely.
It's
links
to
issues
and
a
little
prototype
just
give
your
feedback,
because
I
I
feel
like
for
that
section
that
handles
events.
The
sake
should
really
have
a
big
voice
and
how
that
is
portrayed
on
the
cdf
landscape.
So
I
definitely
want
your
input
on
it.
G
H
Is
and
I
it
definitely
helps
to
have
all
of
your
endpoint
so
that
it's
something
that
we're
all
happy
with.
Similarly,
the
events,
the
cd
events
artwork
issue,
the
cdf
is
now
looking
for
some
sort
of
consensus
and
it
seems,
like
the
conversation,
has
kind
of
come
to
a
conclusion
so
far
on
that
to
go
to
round
two
of
iteration
with
the
designer.
H
So
if
you
want
to
jump
on
that
issue
in
the
link
is
in
the
stock
as
well
and
and
just
put
your
input
like
yes,
we
have
a
sense
of
how
we
want
the
second
iteration
to
go,
and
then
the
designer
can
work
on
that.
You
can
have
more
feedback
on
it.
A
H
Yeah
there
was
conversation
around
the
font
and
some
of
the
shapes,
and
that
seemed
to
have
come
to
a
an
understanding
that
everyone
was
happy
with.
So
just
saying
like
yes,
this
is
what
we
want
and
then
I
think
they'll
work
on
that
iteration
of
logo
and
then
they'll
make
it
stacked,
and
when
that
is
finalized,
a
stacked
version
will
be
made
for
you
as
well.
A
G
H
Thank
you
and
then
the
the
last
sorry
I'm
trying
to
concentrate
at
the
last
minute
on
all
my
things
that
I
want
you
all
to
look
at,
but
the
last
thing
under
meetups
and
conferences.
H
The
program
committee
is
starting
to
refine
our
tracks
for
citicon
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
cd
events
is
well
represented
in
that
right
now,
cd
events
has
kind
of
envisioned
to
be
within
a
track
called
developer
experience,
but
that
doc
that's
linked
to
there
is
for
the
program
committee,
but
actually
it's
still
it's
still
sort
of
a
brainstorm
doc
you
you
can
make
suggestions
on
it
like.
I
would
be
very
happy
to
hear
what
you
all
are
thinking
and
especially
around
to
the
events,
but
that
one.
H
A
All
right,
we
are
time
so
thanks.
Everyone
for
the
meeting
today
and
I'll
see
you
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
B
And
just
I'm
gonna
finish
off
these
changes
so
expect
in
the
next
half
hour
or
so
forever.
For
that
pull
request
to
be
updated,
so
somebody
could
merge
it
and
then
we'll
need
to
create
another
portal
request
from
our
repo
into
the
cdf
toc.
A
Yep,
if
you
ping
me
once
you're
ready,
I
can.