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A
So
we
have
pretty
similar
agenda
as
last
meeting
by
they
wait.
I
can
talk
about
the
agenda
items,
so
we
will
do
the
usual
action
item
review,
followed
by
a
heads
up
about
what
we
did
beginning
of
this
week.
We
archived
means
of
meeting
from
2020,
which
you
can
point
to
the
location
for
the
archive
archive
means
of
meeting
and
then
an
update
about
upcoming
events
before
stem
cic
day
room
schedule
has
been
announced.
A
I
think
it
was
last
week
and
then
I
believe
the
call
for
proposals
date
is
now
announced
or
will
be
announced
for
cdcon,
which
we
can
talk
about.
I'm
crazy,
if
you
may
add
any
other
updates
about
the
cdcon,
followed
up
by
events
in
cicd
workstream
to
become
its
own
sick.
Dystopic
tracy
brought
up
the
topic
during
talk
meeting
this
week
and
then
asked
who
should
he
reach
out
to
so
you
can
talk
about
that
and
any
input
help
from
basic
for
the
charter
you
are
working
on.
A
Let's
see
we
have
seven
people,
we
can
start
slowly
with
action
item
review
so
again,
thanks
for
joining
welcome
all
and
happy
new
year.
So
the
first
action
item
is
on
me.
I
pinged
cameron
before
the
break-
and
I
haven't
heard
from
him
yet
for
the
white
paper
contribution.
A
A
Item
and
ramen-
I
don't
see
him
here.
I
can
ping
him
offline
to
see
if
he
got
permission
internally,
because
that's
what
he
was
trying
to
do.
Last
time
I
checked,
I
suggest
we
keep
this
action
item
open,
so
we
don't
forget
about
their
contribution
to
metadata
work
and
tracy
reagan
and
steve
taylor
to
demo
or
tell
us
which
will
happen
in
two
weeks.
I
think
we
agreed
to
have
that
presentation
on
21st
of
january,
so
I
take
that
note
here
and
I
will
remind
them
before
the
meeting
happens
beginning
of
that
week.
A
So
I
think
andrea,
maybe
you
can
tell
us,
I
believe
you
are
busy
with
this
charter
work
and
this
topic
may
have
been
deprioritized.
So
anything
you
want
to
add
here.
A
Okay,
so
okay,
then
we
can
revisit
this
section
item
during
next
interpreted
meeting
to
see.
If
you
have
anything,
if
not,
then
we
can
close,
and
then
you
take
your
time
to
provide
your
input
based
on
the
work
that
will
hopefully
start
happening
soon
there,
because
I've
seen
a
note
in
your
means
of
meeting
about
how
to
you
know
interface
with
this
thing,
when
events
workstream
becomes
hit
and
vice
versa,
so
I
keep
that
open
and
next
action
items
on
or
next
reaction
items
are
on
your
tracy.
A
So
the
white
paper
thing
I
believe
the
creative
team
is
still
busy
with
the
cdf
yearly
report.
D
Yeah,
I
think
it's
making
its
way
to
the
top
of
the
funnel
we've
got
the
annual
report,
while
in
hand
which
means
we'll
be
able
to
have
them
kind
of
take
the
attention
to
that.
So
just
bear
with
us
and
as
soon
as
I
have
something
for
review
I'll,
get
that
over.
A
D
A
Keep
it
pending,
okay
meeting
imitation
is
updated
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
that
should
be
up
to
date,
thanks
for
that,
let's
close
it.
A
B
A
Issue
here,
okay,
so
steve
to
start
to
work
on
commit
metadata.
So
I
don't
see
it
still
here.
So,
let's
keep
it
open,
which
we
will
discuss
anyway
during
the
remainder
of
this
meeting
today
to
start
the
work
on
our
track
metadata
and
dave
said
that
he
will
be
a
bit
late
to
the
meeting
today,
so
we
can
keep
that
open
as
well
and
take
it
again
when
the
topic
comes
up
and
email
to
bring.
A
So
all
these
last
four
action
items
are
about
metadata,
which
we
can
talk
about
them
during
the
topic
and
we
need
the
new
repo
for
at
least
two
of
those
action
items
so
anyway,
that
was
all
action
items
good
that
we
closed.
Some
of
those
and
the
next
topic
on
the
agenda
is
archival
of
2020
meeting
units.
A
So,
while
working
on
the
keeping
the
minutes
of
meeting
during
the
past
meetings,
I
noticed
that
hack
md
become
became
pretty
slow
because
of
the
amount
of
text
on
the
document.
So
what
we
did
was
currently
we
moved
2000
minutes
of
meeting
2020
minutes
of
meeting
into
a
new
file
called
meetings
underscore
2012
md.
A
All
the
past
meetings
minutes
are
there.
So
if
you
want
to
look
at
the
historical
means
of
meetings,
you
can
take
a
look
at
that
file,
but
the
2021
means
of
meetings
will
be
kept
in
the
same
file
on
hecamd.
So
the
link
doesn't
change
for
that
coming
meetings
and
we
have
references
on
both
of
these
files
if
you
want
to
browse
both
of
the
documents.
A
So
if
you
go
to
2020
minutes
of
meetings,
we
have
a
link
here
which
points
to
the
actual
page,
with
the
most
recent
means
of
meetings,
and
here
you
have
a
meeting
22
to
2020
tokyo,
so
that's
some
kind
of
logistics
to
keep
things
clean
and
tidy
and
responsive.
A
And
the
next
topic
is
upcoming
events,
so
I
think
the
closest
event
that
will
happen
is
foster
2021
and,
as
you
may
recall,
the
ci
cd
day
room
was
accepted
to
foster
first
time
last
year.
I
believe
tracy
had
a
talk
there
to
introduce
continue
their
foundation,
which
was
good
and
it
was
a
room
full
of
people,
maybe
50
to
100.
A
There
so
it's
20
minutes
and
we'll
simply
give
an
update
to
the
work
we
are
doing.
We
have
been
doing
in
the
group
talking
about
how
we
started
or
what
cdf
is
to
remind
people.
Cdf
is
there
for
them
to
come
and
join
followed
by.
What
is
the
special
interest
group
trying
to
do
to
work?
We
start
doing
like
white
paper
events
in
ci,
cd
and
standardized
metadata.
It
will
be
a
summary.
A
C
A
Well,
I
think
it's
great
that
we
have
two
sessions
there
and
we'll
have
some
more
time
to
continue
our
outreach,
and
I
think
this
will
happen
on
8th
of
7th
of
february
sunday,
so
it
will
start
at
10.
A
This
is
central
european
time,
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
it
will
go
until
five
past
six
and
you
can
browse
schedules.
There
are
many
interesting
talks
here
like
progressive
delivery.
Cars
and
also
cncf
will
do
github's
working
group
introduction
there.
So
it's
like
cross
community
presentations,
both
small
and
large
communities,
so
the
link
to
schedule
is
there
yeah
crazy,
no.
D
I
just
think
that's
awesome
that
you've
got
those
talks
in
and
you'll
be
speaking
about
the
the
two
working
groups
doing
that
good
work,
and
I
see
a
good
sprinkling
of
techton
and
jenkins
x,
so
yeah
amazing
program.
D
A
Yeah
then
yeah,
I
think
we
can
try
to
prepare
a
few.
Those
lies.
We
intend
to
present
to
enforce
them
before
the
first
time
session
like
during
next
segmenting,
so
everyone
can
review
and
see
if
we
missed
anything
and
tell
us
what
we
should.
You
know
point
to
people
too,
and
then
we
can
also
do
when
yeah
silicon,
so
cdcon
cfp
will
open
next
week.
A
D
Yes,
so
citycon
cfp
opens
on
monday
and
it
will
be
open
for
a
while
we'll
have
kind
of
an
early
bird
deadline
to
encourage
people
to
submit
talks,
but
I
think
we'll
keep
it
open
for
four
weeks
or
so
so
it
should
definitely
be
open
at
fosdem.
So
they'll,
yes,
that
with
with
highlighting
and
dates
itself
23rd
and
24th
of
june.
D
We'll
come
back
to
this
group
at
some
point
to
work
out
like
what
sessions
to
have.
I
think
the
buffs
were
very
successful
last
year.
I
think
we
also
got
some
feedback
about
different
ways
to
to
structure
kind
of
interactive
sessions,
but
we'll
get
to
that
in
good
time.
But
for
now
just
keep
an
eye
out
for
the
cfp
and
oh
and
registration
is
open.
So
if
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
just
get
that
sorted
and
register,
then
you
can
go
ahead
and
do
that.
D
Yeah,
I
think
we're
aiming
for
like
3
000
people
and
just
we
opened
registration
and
sent
out
an
email
to
save
the
date,
and
I
think
we
had
300
folks
sign
up
straight
off.
So
it
should
be
good.
A
Okay,
thanks
again
tracy
and
the
next
topic
is
run
cnc
icd
work
stream
to
become
a
separate
seek.
So
let
me
open
the
talk
meeting
agenda
so
during
the
meeting
I
think
tracy.
A
A
And
the
other
thing
we
may
take
a
short
discussion
on
is
whether,
if
we
can
help
you
with
the
work
you
are
doing
on
the
charter
or
not
or
if
you
want
to
share
anything,
you
want
this
group
to
contribute
to.
I
think
we
hear
a
document
on
google
docs,
which
you
start
working
on.
C
Yes,
we
started
working
on
that
and
we
planned
of
having
more
content
and
discussing
it
by
the
the
first
meeting
of
the
events
scarcity
group
this
year.
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
ready
for
a
review
with
this
forum.
C
A
A
And
when
is
your
next
or
the
very
first
meeting,
andrea.
C
Question
should
be
next
monday.
I
hope
no.
D
Yeah
it's
next
monday.
I
think
we
just
recreated
them,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
the
invitations
went
out
directly
just
on
this
calendar.
I
can
add
you
in
if
you
like.
No
sorry
it's
on
the
18th.
A
C
A
It
is
16
utc,
yeah.
E
Andre,
can
I
ask
you,
in
the
events
in
cicd
workstream
you're,
building
off
of
some
of
the
definitions
that
have
been
developed
in
the
cloud
events
group
in
the
cncf,
which
are
fantastic
definitions
already
really
good,
but
I
was
wondering
what
what
what
level
of
collaboration
is
happening
between
those
two
groups.
C
Not
much
so
far,
we
just
thought
it
would
make
sense
to
use
cloud
events
as
a
protocol
for
transporting
our
protocol
definition
like
as
a
base
protocol,
but
I
don't
know
if
there
was
any
involvement
with
the
cloud
events
group
before
I
joined
this
the
group
I
will
ask
to
find
out,
but
there's
been
none
since
I
joined
myself
so.
A
Them
yeah,
I
think,
tracy
reagan
when
she
talked
about
this
idea
during
the
last
talk
meeting
before
new
year.
It
was
one
of
the
benefits
to
increase
the
collaboration
with
cncf
and
other
communities
to
make
the
events
work
happening
here
more
visible.
So
I
think
that
is
one
of
the
ideas
why
this
making
events
this
top
level
seek
is
discussed,
and
I
think
it
is
great
idea,
so
we
can
make
even
more
noise
and
get
more
people
collaborate
with
each
other.
C
Yeah
yeah
for
sure
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
the
work
you're
doing,
will
direct
impact
on
what
the
cloud
events
folks
are
doing.
But
it's
good
to
have
an
open
communication
channel
with
them
for
sure.
F
A
A
So
during
the
last
meeting
before
new
year
for
christmas
break
was
to
focus
on
the
low-hanging
fruits,
like
the
things
that
get
us
start
doing
stuff
quickly
and
james
suggested
working
on
commit
metadata
because,
like
how
difficult
it
could
be
to
at
least
start
working
on
describing
what
metadata
that
could
be
produced
or
consumed
for
commits
and
the
other
metadata
is
about
artifact
again,
it
could
be
considered
a
similar
thing
like
how
controversial
it
could
be.
A
So
I
want
to
pull
in
james
and
dave
here
as
the
two
people
who
commit
and
artifact
metadata
ideas.
G
Yeah,
so
if
it's
a
repo,
do
we
want
to
put
that
repo
in
the
cd
foundation
or
like
where,
where
should
the
repos
go.
A
I
think
we
said
we
can
have
a
new
repo
under
cd
foundation
organization
named
like
standardized
metadata
or
apple
or
whatever,
and
then
start
putting
the
or
collecting
extinct
work
under
that
repo
and
then
start
working
on
it.
So
and
that
is
we
discussed
that
as
part
of
action
item
review
dave,
you
missed
that
part
and
tracy
will
help
us
getting
a
repo
in
cd
foundation,
organization,
okay,
and
once
that
repo
is
in
place,
we
can
send
the
notification
to
mail
list
and
you
can
start
putting
material
there.
G
Perfect
yeah,
I
had
a
and
I
so
I
posted
one
of
the
last
things
I
did
in
the
in
the
before
the
new
year
was.
I
went
and
kind
of
engaged
with
the
git
ops
community
over
in
cncf,
and
I
got
like
three
people
who
are
super
interested
in
helping
with
that
effort
as
well.
I
know
at
least
one
of
them
I
think
joined
here,
and
then
one
of
them
made
the
argo
contributions
to
the
sort
of
rosetta
stone
over
the
holidays
as
well.
G
So
I
think
yeah
once
once,
that's
up,
we've
probably
got
a
few
people
who
will
jump
right
in
on
that.
D
A
A
A
So,
which
group
you
said:
cncf
gitobs,
yeah,.
G
Yeah
yeah,
I
just
put
I
posted
in
sig
app
delivery
and
I
posted
it
in
the
get
ops
as
well,
and
I
got
a
couple.
I
got
a
couple
hits
from
both.
A
Yeah,
I
think
andreas
involved
in
cigar
delivery
as
well
kept
in
context
but
yeah
okay,
then
yeah
dave.
You
will
see
when
the
repo
is
great,
so
I
hope
you
can
start
putting
whatever
you
are
thinking
of
doing
for
art
yeah.
I
have
no
idea
what
that
is
yet,
but
we'll
make
it
happen.
A
A
Okay,
then,
I
will
pink
you
as
well
on
slack
once
we
have
the
repo,
so
we
can
press
move
the
junk
insects.
I
think
you
put
junk
insects
or
tecton.
H
A
D
I
have
a
kind
of
related
topic,
maybe
a
bit
distinct,
but
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
talk
about
is
the
end
user
community.
D
We
have
in
cdf,
got
together
at
the
end
of
last
year
and
pretty
much
set
out
what
they
want
to
do
with
cdf
this
year,
which
is
kind
of
focus
on
topics
every
quarter
and
we've
come
up
with
like
an
editorial
calendar,
which
I
hope
to
have
something
more
consumable
to
publish
next
week,
but
suffice
it
to
say
that
the
very
first
topic
that
everybody
was
unanimously
in
agreement
that
was
important,
was
the
the
broad
topic
of
measuring
devops
success
and
one
key
area
of
that
will
be
kind
of
focusing
on
the
four
key
metrics,
as
laid
out
by
the
the
dora
folks.
D
So
the
two,
the
two
speed
ones
and
the
two
safety
ones
mttr
and
things
like
that.
So
what
that's
going
to
look
like
is
we're
going
to
be
having
some
discussions
in
that
community
and
everyone's
going
to
be
kind
of
coming
along
and
telling
us
what
they're
doing
in
reality
like.
Are
they
measuring
that?
What
tools
are
they
using?
What
do
they?
Like
what
do
they,
you
know
what's
easy
to
do
what's
difficult,
but
the
group
is
pretty
keen
to
kind
of
connect
that
to
everything
else.
D
Cdf
is
doing
so
on
one
hand,
we're
looking
to
kind
of
build
a
campaign
around
it
at
this
quarter,
so
we'll
feature
measuring,
devops
and
and
those
metrics
in
the
podcast
and
the
newsletters,
and
things
like
that,
but
we're
hoping
to
take
it
further
and
kind
of
connect
with
our
projects
and
connect
with
groups
like
this.
D
For
instance,
like
you
know,
the
folks
at
fidelity
have
all
already
raised
that
having
some
common
way
of
doing
that-
or
you
know
not
just
having
one
dashboard
in
one
project
but
having
some
consistency
across
tooling
in
how
we
do
this
would
be
important
to
them
and
in
particular
we
started
looking
at.
D
D
So
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
frameworks
like
that.
Maybe
sort
of
say:
hey:
okay,
can
you
then
use
that
with
jenkins
x?
Can
we
standardize
on
some
of
the
apis
or
the
metadata,
or
what
would
it
take
to
push
this
to
be
an
area
to
to
standardize
around?
D
So
I'd
like
to
propose
that
we
consider
that
in
the
interoperability
group
as
a
key
focus
area
in,
in
addition
to
release
metadata
and
and
try
to
maybe
have
schedule
some
time
to
have
a
deeper
conversation
around
that
and
maybe
pull
in
folks
like
gina
portman
who's
in
tara,
hernandez
group
and
I've
had
some
chats
with
tara
and
she's
pretty
interested
in
just
sharing
what
the
approach
is,
why
they
decided
to
do
that?
What
google
is
thinking
in
terms
of
you
know
what
they
might
want
to
do
with
that
project.
H
Not
yet
I'm
gonna
take
a
look
now
that
sounds
great,
so
that
all
sounds
awesome.
Yeah.
D
Yeah
and
yeah,
maybe
having
some
trying
to
hack
those
together
or
doing
a
demo
for
this
group,
could
be
some
some
good
starting
points
but
yeah
no
in.
In
short,
we
want
to
kind
of
double
down
on
that
topic.
I
think
it's
a
significant
area
cdf
could
make
an
impact
on
the
industry
and,
frankly,
if
our
end
users,
the
folks,
actually
trying
to
deliver
software
asking
for
it,
then
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we
help
them
kind
of
achieve
their
goals.
There.
A
So
trace
I
hear
a
question.
I
put
the
name
of
the
person
you
mentioned
diane
portman,
I
don't
know.
If
I
put
it
right,
can
you
collect
it
and.
A
A
Also,
is
it
okay,
I
action
you
again,
so
we
give
you
any
action
since
we
close
one
of
your
action
points
to.
D
D
Yeah,
so
I've
just
sent
a
link
to
an
outline
blog
post,
which
just
kind
of
sections
out
the
youtube
video
but
yeah.
I
think
you
can
see
some
nice
bits
in
there
about
how
they
dump
everything
into
a
database
and
then
pull
it
up
into
this
dashboard
and
how
you
could
try
it
out
and
hack
on.
D
D
But
yeah,
similarly,
if
anybody
has
anything
in
to
like,
I
know
the
spinnaker
folks
have
some
dashboards.
I
know
like
cloudbees
has
some
proprietary
things
and
gitlab
do
as
well
we're
just
asking
anybody.
Who's
got
anything
in
this
space
around
the
the
metrics
to
to
share
what
they've
done
and
just
come,
join
the
conversation
and
see
where
we
can
drive
it.
A
A
I
think
it
is
pretty
relevant
to
the
discussions
we
have
been
having
like
especially
this
metadata
thing
since,
like
if
we
know
what
kind
of
metadata
is
valuable
to
generate
the
you
know,
metrics
for
measuring
devops,
then
that
could
be
an
input
to
that
work.
And
then
we
can
somehow
you
know,
cross
collaborate
with
the
people
who
are
doing
this
work,
visualize,
collecting
and
realizing
those
ethics
and
the
people
who
are
actually
looking
at
what
kind
of
metadata
we
are
looking
after.
So
that
could
help
us
on
network
as
well.
A
So
tracy,
since
we
are
at
the
beginning
of
this
metadata
discussion
as
well,
I
am
wondering
if
we
can
bring
or
invite
dina
to
our
next
meeting
or
the
meeting
after
that
meeting,
to
have
conversation
around
this
and
there
or
her
view,
and
we
will
hopefully
have
some
more
discussions
on
metadata
topic.
So
having
her
with
us
would
be
really
great.
B
A
So
that's
that
anyone
wants
to
bring
additional
topic.
A
A
So
then,
during
the
coming
days
we
will
hopefully
get
the
new
repo
for
the
metadata
work
and
then.
A
Putting
stuff
there
start
moving
what
james
already
put
up
on
that
hmd
document
and
then
impressed
that
we
can
look
at
the
events,
work
stream
charter
draft
documents
and
that
discussion
will
most
likely
take
place
on
january
19th
during
talk
meeting.
So
if
you
join
to
that
meeting,
if
you
want
to
take
part
in
the
conversation,
you
can
put
the
link
to
the
top
meeting
agenda,
where
you
can
see
the
logistics
information
as
well
and
yeah,
we
will
talk
about
fostering
before
false
time
happens
and
that's
it.
A
So
thanks
a
lot
again
and
talk
to
you
in
two
weeks
and
have
a
nice
rest
of
the
week
and
have
a
nice
weekend
as
well.
Thank
you
very.