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From YouTube: SIG Interoperability Meeting - Apr 7, 2022
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A
B
So
I
just
had
my
speakers
of
mutes,
so
I
guess
you
said
hi
to
me
or
oh.
C
C
A
C
Yes,
we
I
think
I
commented
under
the
prs
as
well
like
I
started
working
on
this
kind
of
proof
of
concepting
for
supply
chain
stuff,
and
there
are
some
stages
we
will
need
to
talk
about
and
it
would
be
good
to
have
her
peers
merge.
So
we
can
base
our
work
to
some
version
of
them,
because
I
remember
seeing
some
stages
she
mentioned
in
stages
or
steps
pr.
A
This
might
be
all
we
get
today.
I
know
people's
schedules
are
tough
and
we
did
change
the
time.
I
did
put
some
reminders
out
there,
but
who
knows
we
might
as
well
get
started,
though
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
share
our
agenda,
and
maybe
we
can
pull
up
those
pr's
and
just
take
a
look
at
where
we
are.
A
B
I
think
you
scroll
past
one
of
them
that
could
be
one
of
them.
I
don't
have
any
more
complaints
in
the
bottom.
I've
I
had.
Some
minor
spell
mistakes
in
both
of
them
that
I
found,
but
else
I
would
be
fine
for
merging
them.
B
A
C
A
D
C
C
B
C
Because
if
if
we
resolve
them,
we
will
be
able
to
know
which
ones
actually
we
are
resolving
just
so
we
can
merge
the
pr
and
which
ones
are
already.
You
know,
responded
and
accepted
by
the
commander,
or
we
can
have
one
issue
and
dump
all
the
non-resolved
ones
or
list
all
of
them
under
that
same
issue,
to
make
it
easier.
C
Or
maybe
we
should
ping
on
mary?
I
don't
know
because,
but
yes
I
see
you
proposed
some
updates
to
text
as
well.
They
need
to
be
committed.
How
should
you
do
this.
B
I
don't
know
for
an
example:
eric
is
he's
involved
in
in
singing
through
events,
but
might
not
have
been
too
much
involved
in
a
durability.
So
maybe
a
reminder
for
him
at
least,
and
then
for.
A
Okay,
how
do
you
feel
about
that
fatigue?
Just
take
this
as
an
action
item
so
that
we
can
go
through
these.
C
Yeah,
we
can
think
like
we
can
think
I'm
mary
justin
eric
on
slack,
okay
and
remind
them
like
because
these
peers
have
been
open
since
january
or
something
so
giving
them
one
last
chance
would
be
good.
C
I
can
link
the
files
directly
in
the
document
I
am
preparing,
so
even
before
they
get
merged.
A
Okay,
do
you
think
this
would
apply
to
our
pipeline
stage?
Terminology
too:
are
we
in
better
shape
here.
C
And
I
see
matthias's
suggestion
at
the
end,
that
is
only.
B
Yeah,
so
I
didn't
I
I
let
her
resolve
it.
If
she
thinks
it's
a
lethargic
decision
there,
but
yeah,
I
can
ping
for
both
of
them
both
step
and
stage.
C
B
Just
as
I
thought
there
is
easter
breaks,
is
that
something
european
or
do
you
have
like
bank
holidays
friday,
monday
next
week
or
yeah
friday
next
week
and
monday
week
after.
A
A
C
A
Okay,
yeah,
it
might
be
fun.
I
don't
know
okay,
so
we
know
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
get
these
merged
by
the
time
we
meet
next
we'll
get
emerged,
we're
on
our
way.
Let's
see
so
justin
said
he
was
gonna
arrive
late.
C
Maybe
these
things
could
be
like.
I
think
these
are
relate
to
that
stage
and
step
discussion.
We
had
because
you
can
now
treat
your
stages
or
you
can
make
them
as
gating
things
as
well
like
somehow
comparing.
What
is
here
with
what
is
in
the
vocabulary,
document
under
stages
and
steps
would
tell
us
like
how
much
overlap
between
this
and
that.
C
A
B
So
reading
the
like
introduction,
it
seems
like
it's
something
that
cameras
pull
requests
and
it's
just
as
a
way
to
help
others,
let's
talk
and
put
even
coil
gates,
so
that
people
can
copy
all
over
good
ideas
to
their
own
teams.
C
D
A
C
C
All
these,
you
know,
argo
eiffel,
harness
jenkins
type
of
stuff
and
the
other
one
could
be
non-technology
specific
stages
and
steps
type
of
stuff
which
could
be
related
to
the
skating
documentary
as
well,
and
then
one
top
level
document
link
in
these
two
things.
Now,
if
you
want
to
look
at
technology
specific
terms,
go
to
this
talk
front,
look
at
more
practice,
type
of
stuff
go
to
this
document,
and
that
also
brings
question
as
well
best
practices.
Sig
is
working
on
best
practices
website.
C
B
It
would
be
interesting
to
know-
maybe
I
can
I
can
read
somewhere,
but
I
don't
really
know
what
they're
doing
in
best
practice.
C
A
I
guess
it's
my
turn
right,
okay
yeah,
so
I
can
reach
out
to
someone
in
best.
C
A
With
one
of
them,
maybe
invite
one
of
them
to
our
next
meeting
to
talk
about
suggestions
as
far
as
we're
talking
just
we're
on
the
same
page,
right
best
practices
as
far
as
documentation.
C
C
C
C
And
then
that
reminded
me,
these
best
practices
websites,
because
some
of
those
cold
gate
stuff
could
be
considered
as
best
practice.
So,
instead
of
having
a
document
within
in
special
interest
with
interview
repo,
it
could
be,
you
know,
promoted
on
best
practice
website
if
they
aren't
already
working
on
that
aspect,
so
kind
of
okay.
A
Okay,
sorry
just
catching
up
all
right:
okay,.
C
A
A
All
right:
well,
it
was
perfect
timing
justin.
I
guess
we
can
move
on
to
new
discussion
staff.
You
had
started
a
new
discussion
about
intent-based
pipelines
and
lots
of
activity
on
slack.
This
thread
has
did
anyone
for
for
people
who
haven't
looked
at
this
thread.
Yet
there
were
a
couple
of
projects
in
here
that
were
mentioned.
One
was
kit
k-I-I-t.
A
E
And
I
used
to
work
at
walmart
and
I
kind
of
synthesized
kind
of
what
that
technology
looks
like
in
the
resulting
discussion,
there's
also
dagger
io,
which
is,
I
think,
the
closest
thing
that
exists
today.
E
E
To
do
deployments
is
maybe
how
I
would
say
that,
so,
if
we
can,
you
scroll
up
and
click
on
like
documentation,
yes,
here
yep
and
go
on
docker
swarm
use
cases
on
the
bottom
left.
E
E
I
believe
in
in
like
some
code.
It
should
look
like
code
somewhere
yeah
like
this,
so
it
pulls
in
some
docker
file,
things
to
generate
lua
docs,
and
then
it
writes
out
some
github
sha
things
with
this
next
step,
and
so
it's
basically
like
a
this
like
core
dot
right
file
is
part
of
their
standard
library
and,
like
there's
a
little
further
up.
E
There's
like
docker
dot,
docker
file
and
that's
like
a
docker
specific
thing,
and
so
you
can
write
those
stanzas
and
it
takes
like
some
amount
of
input,
and
it
like
does
stuff
on
your
behalf,
and
so
one
could
build
the
thing
that
I
want
in
this
format.
C
I
forget
my
question:
justin:
do
you
have
a
link
to
recording
or
something
presentation
for
about
kit?
No,
no?
Okay.
They
haven't
presented
at
any
conference.
Okay.
I.
E
Right,
so
this
is
the
thing
that
I
want
to
write.
I
want
to
write
this
yaml,
which
says
like
here's
some
metadata
about
me.
I
want
you
to
build
my
thing:
here's
how
I
want
you
to
roll
it
out.
I
want
you
to
roll
it
out
to
this
region,
then
that
region
than
this
and
then
have
some
degree
of
like
approvals
that
I
specify
at
like
a
high
level,
and
I
want
to
write
this
instead
of
the
you
know,
thousand
lines
of
tectonia
ammo.
That
is,
on
the
other
end
of
this.
E
E
C
Sense
to
me
this
describing
the
outcome
of
the
thing.
Like
that's
yeah,
that's
when
I
seen
your
comment
or
justin
again
coming
from
telco,
that's
exactly
like
kind
of
very
similar
concept
is
intent
based
networking
instead
of
you
writing
tons
of
stuff.
You
just
say
I
want
this
outcome.
If
something
goes
wrong,
then
it
doesn't
happen
which
is
like
kind
of
corresponds
to
your
gates
as
well
like
if
something
goes
wrong.
A
Yeah,
and-
and
this
was
I
like
to
this-
is
specific
to
deployment-
I
mean
it
seems
like
a
good
place
to
start
really.
I've
run
into
this
many
times
just
wanting
to
set
up
at
the
beginning
of
a
project.
I
just
want
to
see
ci
for
our
project
right,
just
ci
and
that's
my
intent,
and
that
involves
you
know
repeating
a
bunch
of
steps
over
and
over
and
over
again.
So
I'm
I'm
imagining
something
similar
for
even
the
beginning
of
a
pipeline.
C
A
So
dagger
they
said
they
had
something
out
in
here.
That
said,
oh
yeah
developed
in
the
open
by
the
creators
of
docker.
A
Yeah,
maybe
I'll
take
that
and
reach
out
to
them
see
if
we
can
get
somebody
to
present
something
to
us.
That
would
be
cool.
B
So
I
don't
know
if
this
is
in
this
area
or
not,
but
have
you
heard
about
cross
planes,
it's
kind
of
like
a
they
had
a
presentation
on?
I
think
it
was
foster
presented
it
and,
as
far
as
I
understood
it,
it
was
kind
of
like
something
like
on
top
of
kubernetes
crossplane
dot,
io.
B
So
there
so
it's
kind
of
like
the
same
idea
as
you're
having
kubernetes,
that
you
define
an
environment,
and
then
you
have
this.
You
can't
remember
the
word
for
it
that
sits
there
and
and
guards
it.
So,
for
example,
if
you
kill
a
pot
or
delete
a
pot
of
what
we
created
for
you
but
they're
trying
to
take
it
like
one
step
more
and
it
go
up,
so
you
actually
have
like
a
whole
infrastructure.
B
So,
for
example,
and
you
can
define
like
a
kubernetes
environment,
for
example,
if
using
google
cloud
and
saying
I
want
these
many
yeah
whatever
you
want
there,
I'm
not
so
hyped
in
that
area.
So
I
don't
know
the
words.
B
But,
for
example,
you
have
a
bunch
of
processors
and
so
on,
and
if
you
delete
that
we'll
recreate
it
for
you,
so
it
kind
of
like
just
wanted
to
mention
it
as
it's
the
temp
based
in
some
kinds
of
ways.
I
I
capture
that
one
two
two
cabinets
because
you're
you're
in
kubernetes
kind
of
stating
I
want
this
state
and
you
have
that
engine
that
sits
on
and
guards
it
for
him
and
and
get
to
where
you
want.
A
A
E
E
I
was
joking
with
a
co-worker
yesterday
that
I
feel
like
we
have
a
nice
gold
paved
golden
path,
but
if
you
step
off
in
any
direction,
it's
just
a
sheer
cliff,
there's,
no
graceful
degradation
away
from
the
golden
path.
A
Yeah
I
mean
justin
took
a
really
good
step
right,
just
creating
this
yamal.
This
is,
is
that
agreed
upon
it's
more
yama,
we're
just
gonna
have
to
get
used
to
it,
but
I,
like
I,
like
your
thought
you
put
into
this
one.
E
D
C
Like
okay,
again
justin
this
like,
if
you
like
the
idea
this
may
require
you
to
spend
some
time
like.
I
wonder
how
we
can
like
you
know,
can
we
write
some
kind
of
blog
post,
or
can
you
write
some
kind
of
blog
post?
Putting
your
thoughts
around
like
you
know,
okay,
what
you
just
said:
okay,
golden
pad
and
actually
cliff
like
how
can
we
make
that
have
a
balance
and
in
canned
based
or
whatever?
C
C
C
A
A
Okay
yeah
this
idea,
I
I
kind
of
want
to
let
it
simmer
a
little
bit,
get
some
more
discussion
going
on
it.
A
E
Yeah,
I
need
to
internalize
all
the
words
that
you've
written
about
what
the
names
of
things
are,
so
that
I
can
yes,
but
I
think
when
I
think
in
ten
based
pipelines,
I'm
also
there's
certainly
there's
certainly
a
build
aspect
to
it
like
to
me.
That's
the
first
step
in
any
pipeline
is
you
have
to
have
the
artifact,
and
so
it
makes
tons
of
sense
to
me
that
we
would
encode
that
somehow,
and
it
seems
reasonable
that
you
might
say
something
like.
E
E
Yeah,
so
if
you
want
to
let's,
if
you
want
to
comment
on
that
discussion
and
like
make
up
some
yaml
that
you
would
like
to
write
in
order
to
have
an
idealized
ci
system,
I
think
that'd
be
rad
to
add.
B
So
justin
there
question
you
asked,
I
think,
some
time
ago
about
a
presentation
had
about
shippa.
E
I
don't
I'm
sure
I
did,
but
I
don't
remember.
B
Okay,
I
dropped
one
of
the
things
here.
They
they
had
a
blog
on
on
talking
about
chip
and
dagger
and
zone,
so
they're,
actually
using
dagger.
I
o
here
sorry,
I'm
just
spamming
you
with
all
these
ideas.
I
don't
think
I've
seen
this
before.
A
Ship
is
interesting
it
it.
You
have
all
the
configuration
still
that
someone
needs
to
set
up
an
admin
needs
to
set
up,
make
sure
you
know
connecting
to
the
right
thing
and
all
of
that
stuff.
But
then
it's
supposed
to
enable
developers
to
deploy
easily.
B
And
apologies,
it
was
not
the
it
was
yeah,
it
was
shipper,
but
the
title
for
that
one
was
craft
place
in
kubernetes
online
workshop.
So
but
it
was
held
by
shipper.
A
A
A
A
A
Like
why
we
haven't
seen
this
already,
do
you
think
it's
just
because
it
just
wasn't
a
priority,
or
do
you
think
there
are
good
reasons?
People
are
not
doing
this
right
now.
E
I
think
that
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
someone
like
tekton
to
to
build
a
nice
cd
system
within
kubernetes.
I
think
that,
like
there's,
there's
clearly
a
need
for
that.
I
think
that
there
is
bias
by
people
who
know
kubernetes
that,
of
course,
you'd
solve
this
in
kubernetes.
It
has
all
the
things
you
need,
and
all
you
need
to
do
is
write
a
few
thousand
lines
of
the
ammo
and
it
it
and
they
kind
of
have
the
curse
of
knowledge.
A
E
And,
like
I
think,
the
certainly
the
average
developer
in
my
company
is
not
keen
on
learning
the
ins
and
outs
of
kubernetes
so
that
they
can
write
and
handcraft
their
own
pipelines
like
they're
much
much
more
interested
in
like
hey.
I
want
to
do
all
the
things
that
everyone
else
is
doing,
except
this
one
other
thing.
E
A
C
Yeah
we
had
parts
response
from
jenkins,
xcom
james
rollings
and
james
strachan,
and
they
presented
and
talked
a
lot
about
jenkins
sex.
But
perhaps
let
me
find
the
name:
ankit
mohapatra
is
from
jenga's
community.
He
is
in
our
is
on
our
slack.
A
E
B
Cool
I'd
actually
still
have
it.
I
was
on
the
assumption
they
had
something
if
it
was,
but
they
maybe
it
was
the
self
or
something
else
that
they
were
not
on
ditching
or
or
facing
away
in
in
favor
of
techno
pipelines.
B
The
the
dsl.
E
Yeah,
I'm
excited
for
that
discussion
to
continue
and
bake
a
little
bit,
so
I'm
going
to
write
up
a
blog
post
about
it
and
include
my
wish
list
of
a
yaml
file
and
we'll
see
if
we
can
get
people
who
are
like
yeah.
I
want
to
make
that
or
hopefully
they
say,
justin
you're
such
a
dummy.
You
should
just
use
this
thing
and
then
it's
all
the
stuff.
I
want.
E
A
A
All
right:
well,
this
is
good.
I
really
liked
this
conversation.
I
think
we
we
have
a
lot
of
ideas,
a
lot
of
directions
to
go.