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From YouTube: May 18th, 2021 Ortelius Community Meeting

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A review of the May 20th Ortelius Microservice Visionaries event and the new blog casting program are topics of this community meeting.

A

All right everybody, it is, may the 18th it's the general community meeting and thank you to everyone who pulled it together to get all of our talks ready for thursday.

A

We are completely ready, as far as I know, sergio you should have access to all of the recordings.

B

Yeah, I see the email yeah, I see the recording. Thank you.

A

So you should be able to bring them down local for twitch.

C

And I said my wrap up one to do, but um I would get that done beforehand.

A

Okay and you'll need to make sure that sergio has.

D

A

On this machine, uh so I don't think there's anything to discuss on that. We just hope everybody attends and we'll have a fun time. You know some of these. Ever there were some of us who did presentations, who have never done them before um we have. You know like bimi and mooney are being hosted by a tool. uh You know somebody from india hosting two women from nigeria. It's you know. We have sasha and karam.

A

You know who have built a friendship between pakistan and cape town. So it's pretty cool. That's the part of open source that I love and I love seeing like adidas adida. You did a fabulous job. She did an amazing job of her presentation, talking about domain driven design and a microservice architecture. It was a lot uh to learn so good job. Everybody did an awesome job though I just have to because I've seen them all and edited them all. So I know exactly what they look like and everybody did great. So, thank you um steve.

A

Would you like to give an update on where the catalog the service catalog project, is.

C

uh Yep, so uh the I had a reoccurring invite out there for the monday stand up um just need to find out if that was worthwhile doing for everybody, and if so, I will um get it back on the books, and so people can join in on that. So just want to get some feedback on that front. Real, quick.

A

Thumbs up, if you should continue doing it thumbs down if he can stop doing it.

C

A

No opinions, no.

C

E

A

Say you know I could.

E

I could go either way, I mean, I think there was some benefit from it, but you know I realized it's a big time commitment for folks, so now either way.

F

Well, I am in so this this month. I didn't see the invite in my calendar, so that's why I could forgot to join, but I'm in.

C

Yeah, maybe a a different time would work better or.

C

You know that type of thing, maybe closer to uh maybe I'm trying to think of friday if friday would work or not, would that be too close for people's.

C

C

All right, so what we'll do is I'll, just um a we'll just do it more on demand um and I will just reach out to people on discord, um checking in on on them and see if they need anything. If we have any blockers so we'll try that for another week or so on uh through discord.

F

Like monday or tuesday, something like that so like even though no no everyone can join, but we have a common place where we can see like what each one of us is working on.

C

uh Yeah, let me check on that, because I know we have um there's a bunch of trello boards and stuff like that uh that we we have one for the the project itself uh and then there's another one for that. Siddharth uses it's a little more general at a higher level.

C

So let me see what we can do on that front as part of that process.

E

My day job one of the things that they do that's a little bit unique for me- is that they're doing virtual stand-ups and so there's a slack room. Obviously we would use discord instead, but you know you just have a room, and you know at certain designated times during the week people post, whatever their update, is you know this is what I did. This is what I'm working on.

E

This is what my blockers are, and you know we might follow that up by like a half an hour meeting, but the expectation is that people have read the stuff. That's in the chat, channel and they're asking questions based on that. So it's not people taking the time of the meeting to present that same information.

C

That's a good idea. We could probably just stand up a new channel just for stand up on discord and we, like you, said, put in there specific things around uh blockers and and dependencies and things like that and where you're at. um Let me let me work on that. I'll stand up a new channel um which will be separate from the dev channel, where we can have pure dev conversations about random links that sasha's found in the in the world.

C

I love them, um but I will set up a a separate stand-up channel. I like that idea, christopher.

E

Thank you, and you know we might have like marketing, stand-ups and other things, so I'd make it something like dev stand up for engineering stand up. Okay, we'll do.

C

Will do and I'll I'll kind of uh prime the pump uh on it? So people know what to put in that channel.

C

So that's kind of where we're at um on the stand-ups uh coding-wise we're moving along uh pretty good uh mooney and beamy are gonna. Stick around so they're going to continue working on their microservices and we'll be reaching out to do additional things as well.

C

So that's gonna just keep a heads up uh that they're gonna be out there doing work uh as well.

D

I have a new challenge for them if they're bored, like you're, just saying.

C

It sounds scary, either sasha.

D

Yeah, I know it is very scary. I couldn't even get it right, that's what I want them to do.

G

This time yeah I got far but oh, it was a tough one.

H

A

The bad news is that we did not get accepted in gsoc, which sucks.

C

A

Jenkins got five: spinnaker got one.

C

Yeah what it it ended up being a a lot more political inside of the linux foundation than I was expecting and the um the competit. I don't know if competition is the right word, but the I would say more of an overreach of some of the more established projects and what they uh thought a candidate should be is definitely not lining up with my vision of what how we should be helping university students.

A

From around the world.

C

F

C

Did we connect.

F

With that uh student, like what applied.

A

We have to yeah, we have to get his info, so I have to get that tracy miranda to get that info for us.

C

Yeah and we have to wait until the announcements uh go formal uh and then I think that's going to be either yeah.

G

It's happening.

C

It's happening within the next couple days, once once we once they announce everything, then we can uh do whatever we want on our own.

F

C

F

C

F

It was 17th of may so yesterday, oh okay,.

A

So then we should be able to move forward and tracy miranda's going to look to see if the linux foundation has an internship program that they could use to bring him on for us, because I did complain to her separately in a quiet, email about. You know the diversity issue and somebody from morocco may not have the kind of advisors that would put together a competitive proposal, and apparently you could you didn't just apply.

A

You had to put together a fairly in-depth proposal and we didn't know that either we didn't put that we we did what we needed to do, but apparently to apply for the internship. Your proposal had to be fairly like almost like a pitch.

C

Like a phd thesis, yeah so you're, basically it's the it was more like um treating this as a phd doctorate type of project.

C

um That's gonna, go on for six months to you know, six to eight months versus um where the person is going to actually come up with an idea, um a new product, a new feature to something uh scope. It all out, do all the project planning and then code. It all.

A

Do better outreach uh and try to do outreach to people who, if we can reach out to the people who want to participate as interns and make sure that they can reach out back to us for us to help them put together that proposal and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, see if I can get my hands on a proposal and then post that as a blog. So this is what it needs to look like. This is a successful proposal, so people who are applying know what they need to do to be successful.

A

So we'll do a little. We learned some this time, we'll do a better job. Next.

A

A

Well, you know I, if I I've, got to find out from oleg how he was able to get. You know that many people, but jenkins, is such a big project and people are interested in it and probably that's how he he got those um he got five, but I think we need to look at who ended up. I want to know who it was that got those jobs and what their um internships application looked like.

A

How complete it was. So we make sure that we're more successful in the future. On a happier note, we have um hey sergio. You want to take like the next like five minutes and uh show twitch we're gonna be broadcasting on thursday on twitch sergio is going to be our twitch j. I guess you call them tj a tj.

A

B

New I'm going to use my profile.

H

B

Okay, um well, I think I'm gonna travel, because I need to log in again I'm I pretty much start today in the morning like doing uh a totally.

A

B

Yeah yeah, please I I mean what I can just maybe a little update, I'm working like having a totally different setup, because I already have an account and twitch and it's it's really painful like doing logout, because you need to get a new token and stuff like that, so to get into the hotels, and I need to export my layouts to put in in the dams for artillery. So I'm working on that I already stuck this morning. I'm going to be this doing this for the three more days and the last day before the day.

B

The event I am free, so I'm going to I've, been working for resolve all the things. I think the more challenging thing is uh having a decent layout and then the the audio that always is a little messed up to to be sure that it's working okay to share. Like I don't know, we are going to share videos, but usually the channel for audio in the in the studio and the obs studio is a little tricky.

B

So I'm going to be working on that, um hopefully have a dry run before the day, even to be sure that everything is going to be working well.

A

You want to schedule some time on the 19th end, but just let me know on the 19th in the afternoon or whenever it works, for you and I'll make sure I I can get on with you. If you want to do a dry run, do we need.

G

A

Anything in terms of the image are you going to work on any of the the kind of the customizing the design for it.

B

Yes, oh well, if you have a anything like a media or a shared folder with media uh of telus yeah.

A

I can get, I can send you what I have, but we don't most of what we have you created.

A

So I will send you what some stuff that I have like. I mean like the logos and whatnot. All the logos are in svg png and jpeg format, but you have to go to the cd foundation, artwork github directory and they're all there. Okay.

B

Okay, yeah. I would personally personalize all the background. Well pretty much the more important thing.

A

Enough and I'll play on it too, uh between now and thursday, uh and see what we can do just I'll just put some stuff up there to see what it's going to look like, and then we do have our um podcast we have uh buzz sprout is set up, uh not sure where we are with getting our first uh uh podcast uh scheduled karam sasha anybody that was an update on possibly that.

D

Oh sorry, I must say I don't.

B

We have a a meeting the last friday with please come. Let's do that, yeah, yeah and um we'll we already agreed to do a little uh uh try on on us, so we just want to jump out and do some testing. uh I already have uh the intention to do it that with same and such, but uh we have a.

B

We agree that we need to find first, first of all uh find the people we are going to check, of course, inside of our tillius, so who is going to be volunteer for this.

A

Let me let me reach out to my network and see who I can get to be our first.

B

Yeah we want to do that, so we to do like, uh let's see inside the company- maybe someone you can see like and can be a an interesting conversation on this and and just recommend it and after that, having the people we are going to set the the. What we are going to talk about is based on what the people we are going to invite is is feel comfortable about talking, so um we're going to do that um before we are just going to probably play around uh uh with the ortillius team.

B

um I wanted to do it this week, but I I just want to be focused on on the our main event for this week. So.

G

Probably is going.

B

To be, uh we are going to do this experiment next week, so we have time, like I don't know like one and two weeks to find people. So maybe that's the goal for everyone here to. If you want to recommend someone, uh just I don't know how probably we are. We agreed to use a trailer, so uh you can, I don't know, reach out me haram anywhere in the in this car and we'll uh probably create a trello car with the with the podcast, and we will be filling the details over there.

A

So what I'll do in the as well um so it looks like the our first uh podcast looks like controller dude where's, my microservice with steven owen. Let's go ahead and um try to get that one. I I was gonna, suggest owen b, one of our first ones.

A

I think um I think, having stephen owen be, uh have that discussion would be fun, so I will reach out to uh steve and owen separately and see if there's a time that they want to do that, but we can also put together I'll, put together a shared doc and we can just start building a calendar and I'll reach out to my network. I think we could get plenty of interesting people to help us out with the podcast.

A

So let's make sure we get the first one down. So we have. um We know what we want it to. You know feel like you know the format of it and then and I'll start building a a calendar.

B

Yeah we need to first do the experiment and then uh have a how you say like a clear schedule, because uh for growing this we were, we are going to need like have a clear schedule, so our people is joining today to the podcast. uh Can now that I don't know every two weeks on monday they are going to have a new release of some podcasts, so the people, uh if we have, we are consistent on that.

B

Probably we are going to have more success, so uh we need just to take care about what is like uh when we are going to roll, or we are going to be rolling out this and doing some experiment versus uh starting, like officially with the scheduling and stuff like that, okay, yeah.

A

All right, I will start working on uh a calendar uh and reach out to you know I think I know marky has been kind of taken himself out of the open source community, but I'm hoping that maybe he would consider doing one he would be so fun to have on, and then there are folks from the projects.

A

I think I could reach out to oleg. Let's have oleg do a podcast with us. That would be fun. um You know I'll I'll reach out to some of the um folks. At the governance level we might get tracy miranda to do one we can get.

A

We can even reach out to um folks like the folks that are on the event working group. I could potentially reach out to cornelia davis from weave work, she's the cto. I have a pretty good network, so I think that if I asked them they would do it. We just need to make sure we have a really clean format when we start bringing in those folks.

B

Yeah, that's the thing so for the document we can can share with karama siddhartha. We start like uh working on this and well everyone who want to join, but um I siddharth is not here. So I'm not sure if I'm missing something quran, I'm missing something about or last meeting.

F

No, I think so, like uh you mentioned, like a fortnight uh scheduled for the podcast, I don't know some shout outs without mentioning something following some theme pattern and for experimental purpose, see how it goes out and definitely the guest.

F

We need to guess so because, most in most of the podcast we have guest cup building up and that what is the excitement about the podcast.

A

Well, we will get guests sorted out. That is something I can definitely um help with. You know we have. The red hat has a new.

A

Open source project that they're looking at contributing to uh the cdf we could reach out from somebody there. um We could reach out to some folks at netflix to chat about um their microservice environment, so I think we, I think I can work uh help and we can get some. Let me get a calendar going. um I think that we should probably look at uh july, though being a first one to bring somebody from uh an external person.

B

Yeah, I'm thinking I have one one main kind that I have to say. That is a. I really know: people uh uh a man inside that is uh really leading the the open chief development and in the open source site he works. I've been checking that he was working with the operators and the updates on helm. So lately I've been seeing him like posting a lot about the the the commit some pull requests on our helm.

B

So I think it's going to be fun because we are seeing a lot of uh dogs and helm being like everywhere. So I'm going to try to start with this first.

A

And then the other thing we can do is we can reach out to our broader general community to see if anybody out there wants to do a podcast and that's about 120 130 people that I can reach out to see. Who would like to be to participate and be interviewed so we'll I think con, I think content will be, it will be challenging, but I think we've got enough. I think we have enough contacts that we can do that.

C

Well, between owen and I we can ramble on and christopher, we'll get you on there, we'll we'll ramble on about commodore 64s for hours.

A

That would be fun. Are you kidding me it'd, be a blast.

D

Yo commodore 64. wow that would be yeah.

E

Steve for bringing it up, I would love to point out that somebody got bitcoin mining working on their commodore 64.. It would take tens of thousands of years for it.

H

I don't know how they did that with.

B

That's pretty funny uh out of the jokes we were talking in this meeting that was important to to create a good uh chemistry between the people who are going to do the post, podcast and usually yeah. You need someone really charismatic, because the podcast we don't want to put a podcast that is boring or conversation yeah.

B

We don't want to the people drop up after two minutes. So yes, I think uh uh an important thing is he put some charisma fun over there um being like a friend, talk or overall friend talk over talking about, or uh technology and more things, but yeah.

G

B

A it's a crucial, uh I think, in character characteristics we we have to achieve on this podcast podcast. So, let's create it yeah we need. We need such over there for sure and well we're.

G

I want to die well the mate 20 talk here, suited up yeah, looking smart.

C

All right anything else, I gotta I gotta jump on another call here in two minutes. I was seeing if we had anything.

G

C

I have the control of the recording, um just a quick update uh in the uh it's afternoon, 4 30 mountain time on thursdays. When we have the architecture meeting, there is the architecture meeting for australia, so uh that group is focused on git ops and how git ops are going to fit into ortelius.

C

um I am recording, uh I should be recording those I missed last time uh hitting the record button, but that will be something that will get posted and the meeting minutes will be in the same architecture, meeting minutes uh that we use in the uh the morning session. So I believe it ends up being like 8 30 a.m, sydney time.

C

So, if you're interested keep a heads up on the calendar on that front, so what we'll do is we'll eventually have them I'll, grab the information and bring it back to the architecture meeting and this this. This meeting celebrates uh on board and not missing out anything. But if you're interested in that topic, uh keep a heads up for that from uh australian group.

A

Okay thanks everybody.

B

F

B

I I send you a message for discord. Sorry.

C

Yeah sergio I have a meeting to do real, quick and I will get you everything you need for uh twitch, okay,.

B

F

Rush, thank you.

C

All right thanks: okay,.

F

Steve I have emailed you the student proposal, so it has the details of the student.

C

Oh awesome, all right great I'll, take a look. Okay, all right, bye, everybody.

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