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From YouTube: 8/27/21 Governance Working Group
Description
This meeting includes a final review of the Governance By-Laws
A
All
right
in
the
interest
of
time-
and
this
is
only
scheduled
for-
should
be
scheduled
for
30
minutes,
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
carson.
Stefan
thank
you
for
coming
and
sergio
you
as
well.
We
have
gone
over
this
with
a
few
others,
so
I'm
glad
you
guys
could
show
up
and
give
your
input
today
is
our
last
day
to
for
doing
input
on
this
particular
document,
so
I'm
just
going
to
walk
through
it.
A
So
what
we're
doing
is
creating
a
governance
board
and
a
governance
board
is
important.
If
we
ever
wanted
to
be
more
than
an
incubating
project,
you
have
to
have
a
governance
board
and
have
had
some
history
for
it.
In
order
to
be
considered
a
graduated
project,
we
have
a
long
way
to
go,
but
this
is
one
of
the
pieces
that
we
should
just
go
ahead
and
get
started
with.
A
So
garima
worked
very
hard
on
putting
this
document
together.
I
then
did
some
tweaks
to
it
and
added
some
additional
information
to
it.
So
I'm
just
going
to
go
quickly.
You
know,
through
through
the
process
here
who
we
are.
This
is
not
terribly
different
from
what
we've
been
talking
about.
I
have
tweaked
the
messaging
around.
What
artilleus
does
I
used
to
say
microservice
architecture,
but
really
what
we're
talking
about
is
simplifying
the
development
of
microservice
applications,
I'm
trying
to
move
away
from
people
thinking
that
we're
doing
something
to
manage
a
cluster.
A
We
have
a.
We
all
know
that
we
have
a
our
philosophy
this.
This
breaks
it
down
a
little
more.
It
talks
about
how
we
are
pushing
diversity.
It
also
talks
about
how
we
try
to
structure
the
project,
so
everybody
has
somewhat
of
a
bounded
context
and
allows
them
to
stay
in
their
own
swim
lanes,
so
they
can
work
efficiently
and
not
feel
like
they're
holding
anybody
back
talks
a
little
bit
about.
A
We
do
have
a
lot
of
old
code
out
there,
so
we
wanted
to
encourage
anybody
to
take
on
that
old
code
and
not
feel
that
they
are
disrespecting
anybody
from
the
past.
So
we
make
we
make
that
a
clear
statement
in
this
this
the
bylaws
and
then
we
and
then
that
we
talk
about
the
real
purpose
of
the
governance
board
that
it
brings.
You
know
what
I
what
we
termed
as
various
perspectives.
A
I
s
siddharth
introduced
to
me
to
a
woman
who
works
for
red
hat
today,
she's
considering
running
for
the
governance
board,
and
anybody
can
run
for
the
governance
board.
You
don't
have
to
be
a
committer.
Anybody
can
be
part
of
the
governance
board.
A
A
Sometimes,
so
you
don't
have
to
be
a
committer
and
their
purpose
is
to
keep
track
of
the
needs
of
the
users
and
committers
and
to
keep
track
of
how
the
market's
changing
and
what
potential
commercial
needs
are
for
products
like
ortillius
we're
going
to
obviously
continue
our
our
push
for
diversity
and
inclusion
for
women
and
minorities
to
be
part
of
the
governance
board.
A
The
governance
board
will
reflect
the
will
of
the
participants
instead
of
being
self-appointed
and
that's.
You
know,
sort
of
steve
and
I
have
been
the
governor's
board
up
to
now
and
that
is
kind
of
a
self-appointed.
So
we
want
to
move
away
from
that
and
to
maintain
stability
and
avoid
any
kind
of
sudden
changes
in
direction.
A
A
Steve
taylor
will
have
a
permanent
seat
on
the
governor's
board
until
he
decides
to
step
down.
Kosuke
is
that
that
plays
that
role
for
jenkins?
A
Then
there
will
be
six
board
members,
so
we'll
always
have
an
odd
number
so
that
we
have
tiebreaker
and
everybody
will
serve
a
two-year
term,
except
for
three
members
who
are
initially
elected
to
serve
a
one-year
term
and
the
reason
why
we're
doing
that
is
so
that
we
have
a
in
one
year,
we'll
have
another
election.
A
A
There
will
be
two
officers
defined
that
that
has
to
be
elected,
one's
they're,
going
to
be
the
chair
and
the
other
is
the
secretary.
The
board
chair
will
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
manage
the
agenda.
A
The
secretary
will
be
responsible,
recording
the
minutes
and
these
officer
positions
are
for
a
one-year
term
and
the
board
elects
them
at
the
at
the
beginning
of
each
session.
So
we'll
have
the
we'll
have
the
elections
in
december,
so
the
board
officers
will
be
elected
by
the
board
in
january.
Basically,
they
can
come
up
with
any
of
any
types
of
officer
roles.
We
have
suggested
three,
a
security
officer,
a
release
officer
and
someone
to
manage
the
product.
The
product
roadmap.
A
There
are,
there
will
be
non-voting
board
attendees,
and
this
will
include
the
ambassador
for
the
chair
for
the
championship
that
siddhartha
is
serving
on
in
that
role
currently
and
for
the
the
championship
and
steve
taylor
is
serving
on
that.
Presently
we
will
have
elections
for
both
of
those
positions
at
the
same
time
as
the
board.
A
The
the
purpose
of
having
those
two
on
the
board
on
the
board
in
the
board
meetings
is
to
bring
feedback
in
from
the
committers
and
the
ambassadors,
but
they're
non-bi
they're.
They
can
vote
but
they're
non-binding
votes.
A
So,
basically,
you
have
seven
people
who
are
are
voting
and
the
rest
are
there
as
guests.
A
A
They
don't
even
have
to
be
an
ambassador
and,
let's
say,
for
example,
we
wanted
to
get
I'm
going
to
see
if
brian
dawson,
who
now
is
at
the
linux
foundation,
if
he
would
consider
being
on
our
board,
people
like
that
would
be
a
really
really
great
to
be
on
our
board
because
they
they
have
insight
in
what
other
open
source
projects
at
the
linux
foundation
are
doing,
and
they
can
bring
that
information
to
the
board
level.
A
We
will
do
a
some
kind
of
an
opt
out
when
we
go
to
do
votes
because
they-
and
I
think
that
kuderset
now
has
an
opt-in,
so
you'll
get
an
email
and
it
says
you
can
opt
in
for
that
email,
but
we'll
make
sure
that
we're
not
sharing
emails
with
a
voting
service
that
we
shouldn't
be
doing,
and
that
is
about
it.
We're
trying
to
keep
it
clean
and
simple.
A
The
way
we
will
do
nominations
will
simply
be
through
email,
we'll
send
out
a
notice
to
say
you
know,
nominations
will
open
on
this
on
september.
24Th,
I
believe,
is
the
date.
I
don't
have
that
deck,
but
we'll
get
the
nominations
open
and
we'll
start
voting.
I
think,
sometime
in
november
and
then
we'll
have
voting
for
a
month
and
we'll
announce
the
winners
in
december.
A
The
internet
service
that
we'll
use
is
this
kudos
it
and
that's
the
same
one
that
the
jenkins
folks
uses
it's
free.
A
If
I
show
you
what
one
looks
like,
let
me
see
if
I,
if
they're
very
basically
they're
a
poll
and
the
way
it
works
is
you
this
is
for
the
favorite
breaking
bad
character,
so
the
the
all
of
the
nominees
will
be
listed
and
everybody
who
is
currently
in
the
google
groups
will
have
the
ability
to
vote.
That's
the
only
people
who
can
vote.
You
don't
have
to
be
in
the
google
groups
to
be
nominated,
but
you
the
people
who
can
vote,
have
to
be
part
of
the
the
community.
A
So,
for
example,
let's
say
walter
white
is
our
favorite
character.
We
would
move
walter
white
to
the
top
and
that
ranking
gets
submitted
and
whoever
has
the
highest
rankings.
You'll
have
you
know?
Let's
say
we
had
ten
names,
the
tops,
the
top
six
would
be
elected.
B
A
Where's,
my
doc,
so
the
question
for
today
is:
does
anybody
have
any
changes
in
this
document
and
I
can
leave
this?
You
know
we
can
keep
this
open
for
another
couple
of
weeks,
since
we
do
have
some
time.
The
24th
is
when
the
nominations
begin,
but
we
should
have
this
document
finalized
before
the
24th.
So
if
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
read
it
and
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
make
notes
in
it
go
ahead
and
make
comments
in
it
and
then
we'll
pull
it
together.
C
I
see
that
is,
I
feel,
is
very
robust
in
the
way
that
who's
the
people
and
how
is
going
to
be
selected.
So
I
think
it's
very
clear,
maybe
in
the
statement
about
what
we
do
or
what
is.
Are
you
sort
of
goals?
Maybe
maybe
we
can
do
a
little
trick
or
something
like
that,
but
I
think
it's
pretty
much
have
everything
I
don't
know
if
we,
this
is
basically
from
other,
like
lower-end
document.
C
A
Yeah
we
we
did
do
a
little
bit
of
work
on
what
section
this
this
one,
how
to
get
it
started.
Most
of
the
boards
have
fewer
than
seven
members.
They
usually
have
five,
but
what
I
have
learned
in
being
on
a
lot
of
these
boards
is
that
not
everybody
can
attend
all
the
meetings,
so
it's
easier
easier
to
get
corn
for
seven
than
it
is
for
five.
C
Or
a
base
for
having
ensure
that
you
are
going
to
have
a
baseline.
Yes,.
A
And
so
it
just
makes
it
easier
if
somebody
can't
attend
a
board
meeting,
the
board
meeting
can
continue,
and
so
that's
why
I
went
ahead
and
said:
let's
do
let's
do
six
members
and
steve
as
the
the
the
permanent
role
jenkins
has
a
permanent
role
for
the
continuity
for
keeping
a
a
constant
and
they
and
cos
k
was
who
was
selected
to
be
that,
so
we
copied
that
from
jenkins.
I
think
jenkins
only
has
five
members
though,
but
we
did
seven.
A
Yeah,
I
think
so
too.
You
know
if
there's
any
any
ideas
on
you
know
suggested
roles
for
the
for
the
seven
members,
so
this
makes
it
five
mi
in
in
this
case
we
have
three
suggested
officers
and
two
permanent.
So
that's
five
officers
out
of
a
seven
board
panel.
So
that's
almost
everybody
having
an
officer
position,
but
they
do
that,
but
the
board
gets
to
make
a
decision
on
what
these
are.
These
are
just
suggestions.
A
So
if
anybody
has
been
on
a
board
and
they've
had
officer
positions
that
they
think
that
we
should
suggest,
that
would
be
the
place
to
do
it
and
the
board
can
be,
it
can
be
pretty
flexible.
So,
for
example,
they
could
without
adding
to
the
board,
they
could
say
we
are
going
to
create
a
product
manager
officer,
but
they're
not
going
to
be
someone
who's
on
the
board.
C
Yeah
I
about
the
roles
I
don't
know.
This
is
just
thinking
loudly
for
product
management.
I
think,
is
a
maybe
a
big
responsibility
for
one
people.
Maybe
it
can
be
like
a
complementary
role
for
the
product
management,
because
something
is
about
like
the
product
management
itself,
but
it's
like
ortelius
itself
is
is
always
growing,
but
there
is
this
point
of
view
about
collecting
what
is
like
connecting
hortelius
with
the
rest
of
the
products
in
the
in
the
in
the
open
source
space.
C
A
A
A
Okay,
I
think
that's
that's
about
it,
then
guys
we
are
ready
to
get
ourselves
back
up
and
running.
I
think
our
I'll
send
out
an
email
to
remind
everybody
when
our
first
back
to
work
open
or
the
commit
the
general
community
meeting
is,
I
think,
that's
the
7th
of
september
and
we'll
start
bugging.
Everybody
for
nominations
then-
and
I
have
shared
this
out
to
everyone,
so
everybody
should
have
had
a
chance
to
read
it
if
they're
concerned
about
it,
but
thank
you
sergio
for
those
those
tweaks.
A
Else
have
any
any
thoughts
if
you
do
just
come
out
to
this
document
and
go
ahead
and
make
your
make
the
updates
or
just
you
know,
just
add
comments
and
then
we'll
address
the
comments.
A
C
C
Yeah,
I
I
will
I
will
maybe
we
can
do
remember
that
time.
I
said
we
maybe
we
can
do
a
like
little
step
about
contributing
things.
Yeah,
I'm
doing
I'm
doing
some
projects
on
my
jack
bricks.
I
scoreboard,
with
with
with
some
unicorns
and
stuff
like
that,
so
it's
fun
to
oh.
That.
A
Yeah,
so
what
I'm
going
to
do
with
this
is
when
we
know
it's
good,
I'm
going
to
convert
it
into
markdown
and
it'll,
be
part
of
the
website
and
I'll
be
sure
to
note
the
people
who
contributed
to
it.