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From YouTube: Mar 21, 2023 - Ortelius General Community Meeting
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A review of the Ortelius Architecture, updates on the BlogAThon, news on Red Hat Emporous, and the May 19 Ortleius Visionaries Summit are the topics of this General meeting.
A
B
Y
welcome
everybody
to
the
artillius
journal,
meeting
March
21st.
Let
me
go
ahead
and
find
the
dock
and
and
there
it
is
share
my
screen.
B
Okay,
so
just
a
couple
updates:
the
GitHub
sponsorship
I've
been
able
to
send
out
the
payments.
So
far,
I
got
a
weird
message
on
that
front.
It
looks
like
they're
placing
a
hold
on
the
payment
for
60
days.
C
B
B
Yeah
I
had
a
message
that
said
it
was
going
to
take
60
days
for
us
to
be
verified
for
the
first
payment,
so
we'll
just
have
to
keep
an
eye
on
it
on
that
front.
B
So,
but
I
did
get
the
did
figure
out
the
process,
and
you
know
it
was
relatively
easy
to
do
once
we
got
that
sorted
out
on
where
to
click
and
things
like
that.
So
if
anybody
talks
to
Joseph,
let
him
know
that
he
needs
to
set
up
his
stripe
account
and
stuff.
B
And
if
anybody
gets
their
money
transferred
earlier,
please
let
me
know
just
so
we
can
let
everybody
else
know.
B
Next
on
the
kind
of
list
is
Tracy.
You
got
to
fix
your
mic.
B
Okay,
I
just
muted
you,
so
the
next
thing
that
we
have
on
the
list
is
I,
don't
know
if
anybody's
heard,
but
emporious
is
going
to
join
this
the
project
Tracy.
Can
you
tell
them
more
about
that.
D
So,
yes,
they
have
accepted
coming
into
the
project.
There'll
be
a
sub
project
under
ortelius,
so
figuring
out.
What
that
looks
like
and
get
will
be
a
different
problem.
Probably
any
of
their
projects
will
have
a
emporious
Dash
and
then
the
name
of
the
the
repo,
because
they
have
about
100,
repos
I,
think
something.
D
E
D
Lot
of
repos
yeah,
but
they're
super
excited
to
be
joining
we'll.
Do
some,
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
get
this
everything
set
up
and
do
some
fun
Outreach
at
cdcon,
so
that
we
can
give
them
some
love
and
some
attention
I
think
we
talked
about
this
last
time
where
we're
at
in
the
process.
Right
now
is
just
they.
D
Red
hat
has
to
have
a
corporate
contributors
agreement
and
I'm
trying
to
find
out
if
Red
Hat
already
has
one
for
the
CD
Foundation,
but
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
forward
for
as
with
individual
contributors
and
then
work
on
the
getting
the
red
hat.
One
later.
D
Well,
that's
all
I
have
on
that.
We're
just
now
doing
the
busy
work
to
get
it
all
made
real
I'll
be
working
on
a
press,
a
press
release
as
soon
as
we'll
probably
release
the
information
in
may.
We
won't
do
it
in
April,
we'll
wait
until
cdcon.
B
D
They
do
have
some
I
think
we
do
have
to
find
for
their
branding.
The
name
and
whatnot
I
have
to
find
out
there's
another
agreement
that
red
hat
will
have
to
process.
So
that
might
take
some
time
and
I.
Don't
know
where
that
even
that
contract
is
I,
just
know
that
it's
out
there
I've
got
to
reach
out
to
Fati
again
and
find
out
where
it
is.
D
B
Okay,
cool,
so
one
of
the
things
as
part
of
the
git
repo
move
is
I'm
going
to
have
to
rename
a
few
of
our
repositories.
B
We
have
one
just
called
like
website,
I
think
another
one
called
docs
I
just
need
to
rename
those
to
be
a
little
more
explicit,
so
I'm
going
to
do
that.
Also
we're
going
to
create
a
GitHub
repo
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
is
familiar
with
the
what
the
dot
GitHub
repo
does
it's
kind
of
like
the
default,
so
you
could
put
the
license
file
in
the
dot
GitHub
repo
and
then
any
new
repositories
will
inherit
the
license
from
there.
B
So
it's
like
a
One-Stop
shopping
to
do
all
your
your
common
code,
type
of
stuff.
So,
along
with
that
we're
going
to
need
to
do
a
security
markdown
and
also
an
owner's
file
to
handle
the
permissions
inside
of
a
GitHub.
So
when
I
was
talking
to
Andy
the
other
day,
he
said
that
the
they
used
the
owner's
file
and
not
like
the
GitHub
teams
and
it's
basically
a
configuration
as
code
versus
it
being
hidden
away
inside
of
GitHub.
So
we'll
be
moving
over
to
that.
B
So
I'll
be
working
on
that
and
we'll
have
to
pick
a
date
on
that
front
of
when
we're
actually
going
to
do
the
cut
over.
But
first
I'm
going
to
do
a
little
bit
of
cleanup
on
our
side
and
get
kind
of
like
the
groundwork
in
place
and
then
we'll
go
ahead
and
work
with
the
emporious
team
to
get
their.
B
The
repos
transferred
over
I
did
bring
up
with
them
the
Discord
versus
Slack,
and
they
because
they're
a
corporation
they
like
to
use
slack
and
I,
told
them
that
they
should
consider
moving
over
to
Discord.
We've
had
a
lot
more.
The
projects
I've
been
on
had
I've
had
more
success
with
new
people
joining
that
actually
use
Discord
over
the
slack
type
of
world.
B
So
we'll
see
if
how
that
comes
about,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
get
on
the
the
same
platform
under
Discord
other
things
that
we'll
need
to
do
also
I
mentioned
to
them
about
moving
some
of
their
meetings
earlier
in
the
day
right
now,
they're
like
noon
or
one
o'clock
in
the
afternoon.
My
time,
which
puts
it
like
in
possible
time
for
you,
our
car,
is
pretty
pretty
late.
B
In
our
event,
I
told
them
that
they
may
want
to
consider
trying
to
hunt
down
a
date
where
things
are
earlier
just
so,
we
can
get
more
contributors
to
the
project.
B
Okay,
then,
the
next
thing
is
the
the
xrpl
project.
Like
I
said
we
did.
The
payouts
and
I
also
created
about
20
new
issues
out
there,
so
we'll
have
to
start
picking
up
issues,
assigning
them
to
yourselves
and
I
still
have
to
go
in
and
add
the
bounties
to
them.
I
had
to
I
just
got
the
like
a
brain
dump
of
what
we
need
to
do
next
and
I
have
to
Circle
back
around
and
figure
out.
You
know
how
many
hours
we
can
estimate
for
some
of
those
issues.
D
Outreach
yeah,
we
have
quite
a
bit
to
work
on
coming
up
here.
We
have
our
Visionary
Summit,
coming
up
on
May
19th
I'm,
going
to
go
ahead
and
get
that
get
started.
If
you
submitted
a
Blog
I
would
highly
encourage
you
to
do
a
10
minute.
Lightning
talk
on
it,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
technical.
It
just
has
to
be
fun
and
informative.
If
you
have
a
particular
topic,
you
would
like
to
talk
about
if
you've
never
done
a
session.
D
I
think
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
for
either
10
minute
or
20
minute
presentations,
and
you
can
sign
up
for
in
for
I
either.
One
I
have
learned
recently
that
the
10
minute
and
15
minute
lightning
talks
are
better
and
it's
because
it
nothing,
you
know,
focuses
the
mind
like
having
a
limited
amount
of
time.
D
So
you
tend
to
take
out
the
fluff
to
get
to
the
the
core
of
it
and
be
done
and
I
think
they're
more
interesting
when
we're
watching
them,
and
they
do
do
well
on
in
terms
of
people
watching
on
YouTube,
because
it's
like
a
10
or
15
minute.
Talk
you
can
say:
I
can
listen
to
that
I,
don't
have
to
wait
for
30
minutes
or
an
hour,
so
I'm
going
to
stick
with
the
lightning
talk
format.
D
I
will
be
get
pulling
all
of
that
information
together
and
sending
out
notices
to
say,
hey,
sign
up
for
a
lightning
talk
or
you
can
do
a
20-minute
session
and
I
think
what
we'll
do
is.
We
will
have
a
do
the
same
way.
We
start
with
our
beer
and
donuts.
We
have
somebody
who's,
a
kind
of
a
primary
speaker
and
then
follow
that
up
with
the
lightning
talks
and
Tony
your
your
article
on
mentorship
was
heartful
and
spot
on.
D
It
would
be
great
if
you
you
talked
about
what
it
meant
to
be
a
mentor.
It's
a
topic
that
it
seems
to
be
getting
a
little
more
interest
in
the
open
source
world.
So
it
would
be.
We
would
love
for
you
to
consider
doing
a
lightning
talk
on
being
a
mentor
or
how
to
be
a
mentor
and
take
advantage
of
mentors.
D
We
air
it
on
it'll,
be
aired
on
May
19th,
but
we
pre-record
all
of
them,
and
then
we
just
set
it
up
with
some
broadcasting
software
to
pull
it
all
together
and.
D
Into
you
can
record
that
10
minutes
on
your
own
anytime,
you
want
and
then
you
send
it,
you
upload
it
to
Google
Drive
and
then
I
download
it
and
get
it
and
and
do
any
editing
and
put
in
the
intro
and
the
the
closing
and
get
it
ready
for
Broadcasting.
D
D
F
D
You
got
it
anytime,
I'm
happy
to
chat
with
you
about
that.
S-Bomb
blog
I
think
it's
a
that's
another
interesting
topic.
I
think
I
am
on
the
the
open
ssf
days
selection
committee
for
talks.
We
had
about
60
talks
submitted
for
eight
spots,
which
is
a
tough
job,
because
you
have
to
decline
a
lot
of
really
good
talks
and
I
would
say
out
of
the
60
talks
submitted.
We
probably
had
30
percent
of
them.
Sorry,
30
of
them
were
actually
related
to
s-bombs.
They
had
they
discussed
s-bombs
in
some
way.
D
So
it
is
a
a
pretty
popular
topic
right
now
and
I.
Think
it'd
be
a
good
one.
F
F
I
do
okay,
it
only
seems
to
support
15-minute
sessions.
D
D
Okay,
so
we
we
need
to
really
get
our
heads
into
it.
I'm
going
to
get
that
blog
started.
I'll
get
the
info
out
there
today
announcing
the
date
and
announcing
a
call
for
lightning
talks,
basically
and
we'll
get
that
started
and
I
want
everybody
to
know
that
Sasha's,
a
great
DJ
I've
been
listening
to
his
track
on
Spotify
and
I.
Absolutely
love
it
like
love,
love,
it
Sasha.
It's
amazing.
A
G
D
Don't
know
I,
don't
think
you
can,
but
it
would
be
great
Sasha
if
you
could
do
a
a
couple
of
our
breaks,
but
I
don't
know
if
I
don't
know
how
that
legally
how
that
works,
I
don't
think
we
could
broadcast
it,
but
you.
A
G
B
D
If
you
could
find
some
music
under
the
creative
common
license,
we
could
do
it.
D
Yeah,
so
something
something
to
think
about
and
I
don't
know
if
Sergio
is
going
to
be
able
to
help
with
it.
But
if
there's
anybody
who
wants
to
learn
this
stuff
and
step
up
to
the
plate
and
be
our
twitch
J,
please
let
me
know
because
it
is
a
skill
all
of
its
own
on
its
own
Steve
and
I,
pulled
it
off
last
time.
D
I'm
sure
we'll
be
able
to
do
it
again
this
time,
but
if
you're
interested
in
learning
how
to
do
this
work
with
this
broadcasting
software
that
these
kinds
of
projects
are
a
really
good
way
to
do
that,
because
it
kind
of
forces
you
to
pull
it
all
together
and
actually
produce
something,
and
it's
kind
of
interesting,
the
way
the
stuff
fits
together.
D
We
do
have
elections
running.
Remember
we
have
an
election
for
the
CD.
Foundation
has
a
the
best
committer
for
the
CDF,
and
then
we
have
our
MVP
for
ortilia.
So,
if
you
haven't
voted,
please
do
get
your
votes
in
I
believe
that
voting
closes
shortly.
I'm,
not
sure
I,
know,
I
saw
it
on
my
calendar
in
the
next
two
weeks.
So
if
you
haven't
voted,
be
sure
you
get
your
vote
in
for
that.
D
The
in
terms
of
any
of
the
conferences
that
we're
attending
in
the
next
I'd
say
two
months,
all
the
cfps
have
closed
for
it.
So
now
we're
just
looking
at
conferences
really
for
September
the
fall,
I,
don't
think
Steve
and
I
are
going
to
do
any
others
than
just
the
May
ones
it's
expensive
and
it
can
be
kind
of
distracting
and
kind
of
takes
you
off
your.
What
you've
got
to
focus
on,
and
we
have
so
much
coding
to
do,
and
so
much
work
to
do.
D
I
think
that
just
the
casiticon
open
source,
Summit
and
open
ssf
days
and
jfrog
and
it's
all
in
the
same
week,
will
be
enough
for
us.
I
am
doing
a
keynote
at
open
source.
Summit
I
am
doing
a
featured
talk
at
jfrog.
D
We
do
have
now
our
Meetup
I
scheduled
a
meet
up
for
Simon.
Do
you
remember
when
I
scheduled
that
meeting
for
it's
an
April,
12th
I,
think
maybe
something
like
that,
so
just
to
get
so
Arvin
how
to
set
up
a
ortilius
Meetup
to
start
getting
get
to
it
to
get
Meetup
page,
we
have
to
have
some
kind
of
an
event.
So
what
I
did
was
is
I
scheduled
the
Steve's
pipeline
talk
for
the
CDF
online
Meetup
and
I
also
scheduled
it
for
ortilia.
D
So
it's
the
same
one
just
being
advertised
through
both
the
ortillas
Meetup
and
through
the
CDF
foundation.
So
hopefully
we
will
get
some
folks
accepting
that
Meetup.
So
if
you
are
so
inclined,
please
go
out
there
and
add
your
add
yourself.
As
a
member
to
the
artillius
Meetup,
it
looks
weird
having
a
meet
up
when
there's
only
Arvin
and
I
out
there
and
I
know
some
of
you
have
already
done
that.
D
So,
thank
you
on
the
on
the
same
note,
don't
forget
to
go
to
artifact,
hub
and
star
the
project,
so
artifact
Hub
is
where
we
have
the
the
image
download,
and
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
more
stars
on
that
image
download
and
if
you
check
it
out
on
a
regular
basis-
and
you
see,
we
have
a
bad
score,
make
sure
Steve
knows,
and
we
really
still
need
to
think
about
how
we
can
automate
that
through
ortilia.
So
because
our
attilius
knows
it
too,
it
just
needs
to
notify
us
yeah.
D
And
in
terms
of
Outreach,
those
are
the
items
I'm
working
on,
so
just
as
a
summary,
we
have
a
good
lineup
for
May
for
open
ssf
days,
cdcon
and
open
source
Summit
and
jfrog.
We
have
a
our
Visionary
Summit
coming
up
on
the
19th,
which
is
a
Friday
I,
will
start
working
on
pulling
that
blog
together
and
get
it
announced.
So
we
can
start
getting.
People
lined
up
to
do
talks
if
you've
done
a
Blog.
I
would
encourage
you
to
use
that
blog
as
the
format
for
your
lightning
talk,
because
then
it
works
really
good.
D
When
I
do
it,
you
might
see
these
the
reason
why
I
like
to
do
these
Visionary
Summers
is
because
of
content.
We
need
content
to
keep
the
social
networking
fresh
and
by
doing
the
doing
the
the
spring
blog
or
the
winter
blog-a-thon
winter
spring
blog-a-thon
followed
up
by
May
and
December.
Visionaries
I
have
a
lot
of
good
content
through
the
year
and
what
I'll
do
is
I'll.
D
Take
a
single
blog
and
I'll
push
it
out
for
six
months
and
then
I'll
take
the
the
videos
that
I
get
from
the
Visionary
Summit
and
I'll
push
those
out
for
six
months.
So
pretty
much
every
six
months,
I've
got
fresh
content.
Now
we
can
always
write
blogs
more
often,
but
it
tends
to
be
if
we
do
it
as
a
group
and
we
get
it
creates
more
of
a
ball
of
energy.
So
that's
why
I
do
these,
so
we
can
have
content
to
share
and
if
you
haven't
seen
yes,.
G
H
H
D
Okay,
yeah
no
problem
I'll
be
happy
to
get
that
out
to
you
today.
D
So
something
fun
to
do
is
go
look
at
one
of
our
first
Visionary
Summers,
where
Sasha
presented
and
then
go
look
at
Sasha's
presentation
that
he
did
at
the.
What
is
it?
It's
not
stack
State.
It's.
A
D
D
Oh,
my
goodness,
we
always
knew
that
Sasha
had
an
item
to
be
a
good
presenter.
He
just
needed
the
work
to
work
on
it
and
his.
G
D
D
It
gets
your
head
into
presenting
and
it
gets
you
more
comfortable
with
presenting
and
just
like
we
use
open
source
to
learn
to
code
using
open
source
project.
To
learn
to
present
is
a
an
is
an
amazing
way
to
build
your
skills.
It's
sort
of
like
Toastmasters
for
nerds.
D
My
suggestion
now
is,
if
you
haven't
done
a
presentation
for
the
Visionary
Summit
go
for
it.
I
would
love
to
have
half
of
us
doing
those
presentations
be
new
and
have
a
mentor
to
help
you
through
it.
So
you
know:
I'm,
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
encourage
that
when
I
send
the
email
out
about
the
Visionary
Summit
to
get
some
new
folks
to
do
to
do
these
presentations,
and
that
is
about
all
I
have
for
today.
G
D
G
More
with
you
know,
do
more
stuff
for
tedious
just.
G
D
You
know
it
took
me
a
fork,
I,
don't
know
two
or
three
days
to
figure
out
how
to
use
all
the
software,
but
now
that
we
know
I
think
that
we
could
get
your
environment
set
up
a
lot
faster,
because
there
was
stuff
that
we
didn't
know
we
had
to
download
in
order
to
make
things
work
together
and
figure
out
where
the
the
feeds
were
for
the
sound,
getting
the
feeds
to
the
right
places,
all
of
that
kind
of
stuff,
so
yeah.
D
If
you
want
to
do
that
weekend,
when
you
have
time
we
can
sit
down,
you
know
we're
talking
closer
into.
We
can
do
this
in
may.
We
don't
have
to
do
this
anytime
soon,
but
we
could
do
it
closer
to
like
the
second
week
of
May
right
before
the
Visionary
Summit,
get
your
get
you
set
up,
because
once
you
have
it
set
up,
it's
literally
just
scheduling
it's
just
just
dropping
in
the
game
or
making
you
know
changing
the
scene
as
as
a
as
it
as
it's
called.
D
So
you
have
different
scenes
that
you
you
you
push
forward.
G
Don't
have
to
have
it
done
well,
I
I
did
try
and
write
already
and
I
missed
it
by
that
six
percent,
because
I
got
hung
up
on
a
question
and
I
shouldn't
have
and
so
I
couldn't
answer
five
questions.
G
If
I'd
answered
five
of
those,
those
five
questions,
I
didn't
answer,
I
would
have
passed
the
first
time,
but
I
didn't
I,
missed
it
about
five,
so
I'm
gonna
have
I'm
gonna
write
it
first
week,
probably
on
Friday,
again
yeah,
okay,.
G
B
Then
come
back
on
the
ones
that
you're
not
quite
sure
about
it.
It
that
way,
you
you
get
the
and
what
will
happen
is
the
ones
that
you
know
for
sure
usually
give
hints
to
the
ones
you're
not
quite
sure,
about
exactly.
B
F
G
G
Yeah
yeah,
you
can
so
my
next
my
next.
It's
all
about
strategy,
really
that's
Alexander!
It's
a
strategy.
It's
just
strategy
and
I
I
know
it's
an
exam,
but
I,
don't
know
how
relevant
it
is
to
the
real
world,
but
still
it's
an
exam
exam
has
its
own
way
of
testing
you
so
I
think
it
is
good.
In
that
sense,
and
it's
a
hold
of
you,
can
have
a
whole
debate
about
it.
G
D
B
B
G
How
to
proceed
exactly
and
it's
irritating
things
like
on
the
documentation,
so
they've
got
this
massive
red
banner
now
about
them.
Changing
some
registry
right.
It
takes
up
half
your
real
estate
right
and
another
irritating
thing
is
that
I
like
to
talk
the
questions
out
to
myself,
like
whisper
them
to
myself?
Just
so,
you
can
gain
understanding
and
then
the
Proctor
keeps
chucking
in
jumping
in
with
his
massive
chat
window,
which
blocks
half
your
screen
and
asks
you
to
stop
whispering.
G
B
Do
they
have
any
like
in-person
test
centers
near.
G
G
B
I
know
sometimes
that
they'll
have
they'll
Outsource
the
test
centers
to
certain
companies,
so
I
would
take
a
look
to
see
if
there's
a
test
center
and
do
it
in
person
instead
of
the
over
the
web,
because
I've
I
know
folks
that
were
trying
to
do
the
a
similar
thing
for
passing
their
their
their
EMT,
basically
basically
paramedic
stuff,
and
they
said
that
the
doing
it
through
remotely
is,
like
you
said,
as
a
pain,
because
you
want
to
go
write
things
down.
G
Exactly
and
it's
a
massive
checkpoint,
it
comes
out
because
you've
only
got
I've
only
got
a
16
inch
Max
screen
because
my
camera
is
built
into
my
Mac.
That's
the
only
webcam
I
have
so
I
can
only
use
my
16
inch
screen
if
you've
got
a
if
you've
got
a
15
inch
screen
or
List
you're
gonna
you're
gonna
struggle
well,
15
inches
the
minimum.
They
say
on
the
site,
but
if
you've
got
a
smaller
one
than
that
cheapest,
yeah
I
feel
sorry
for
you.
Don't
whisper
I
had
to
move
right
to
move
off.
G
E
H
One
of
the
feedback
that
I'm
getting
from
a
lot
of
Street,
whether
the
person
say
like
I,
have
scheduled
the
CK
exam
and
in
45
minutes
it
takes
45
minutes
for
me
to
step
things
up
before
I
start
jumping
into
the
into
the
CK
exam.
So
now
you're
only
limited
70th
minute
or
60
Minute,
so
I
think
it's
easier.
You
can
have
only
one
laptop
and
one
webcam.
H
Otherwise
you
have
to
fight
with
the
Proctor
and
you
do
nothing
and
you
have-
and
she
asks
is
God
very
worried,
but
I
think
I
haven't
done
it
before.
But
now
I
have
conducted
a
ckcd
Pakistan,
so
they
give
me
10
voucher
for
this
CK
exam.
So
let
me
know
when
you're
actually
planning.
So
we
can
have
this
crack
together.
I've.
F
G
A
G
I
had
the
cat
mounting
at
the
door
and
I'm
allowed
to
go,
I'm
not
allowed
to
leave
my
desk
and
like
so
they
catch
meowing
away.
In
the
background,
I
bet
you,
the
Proctor
could
hear
it
because
they
obviously
logged
into
the
into
your
computer.
They
can
see
everything
you
do
right.
You
hear
everything
you
say
and
ing
so
funny
yeah.
So
what
Experience.
B
One
Last
Question
are
we
or
should
we
do
a
a
beer
and
donuts
for
the
emporious
folks
just
to
meet
everybody.
D
I
think
we
should,
but
not
until
the
thing
is
they
are.
The
19th
is
our
our
Visionary
Summit.
We
probably
won't
officially
announce
it
until
the
the
week
of
the
10th,
so
it
doesn't
give
us
a
whole
lot
of
time,
so
we'll
have
a
beer
and
donuts
and
I
think
we
should
make
the
the
beer
and
donuts
will
be
we'll
we'll
just
title
it
as
a
welcoming
emporious
and
recognition.
Badges,
okay,.
E
D
Arvin
I
was
thinking
the
same
thing.
I
was
thinking
what
we
would
do
is
you
know.
Normally
we
do
beer
and
donuts,
and
then
we
have
somebody.
Do
a
20-minute
presentation.
I
think
I'd
like
to
do
beer
and
donuts
and
then
have
Andy.
Do
a
20-minute
presentation
on
why
a
universal
object
registry
like
or
emporious
is
important,
not
technical,
but
just
the
the
reasons
why
it's
better
than
a
standard,
oci
registry
or
a
you
know,
a
container
registry
yeah.
D
I
think
a
panel
discussion,
it
would
be
a
really
panel.
Discussions
are
really
always
very
interesting.
So
if
somebody
wants
to
pick
a
I
think
that
letting
Andy
right
now
be
the
star
of
the
show
would
be
the
best
and
then
if
we
want
to
do
a
panel
discussion
as
a
follow-up
to
Andy
on
any
topic,
I
think
a
panel
discussion
is
a
great
idea.
D
We
would
just
have
to
come
up
with
one
that
every
multiple
like
three
or
four
of
you
have
some
real
interest
in
to
do
it,
because
you
all
have
to
really
be
kind
of
like-minded
or
have
a
passion
for
that
particular
topic.
But
if
there's
a
panel
discussion
that
you
guys
want
to
do
I'm
all
about
seeing
that
get
done,
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
and
we
can
always
curate
speakers
from
outside
to
do
that
panel
and
we
can
make
it
a
20-minute
panel.
D
So
then
we'd
have
20
minutes
for
for
Andy,
20
minutes
for
a
panel
discussion
and
then
we'd
maybe
do
three
or
four
lightning
talks
and
we're
good
yeah.
All
right.
If
you
want
to
think
of
a
good
panel
discussion,
think
about
it
and
maybe
I'll
think
about
it
too
and
I'll
send
some
your
way.
A
E
D
E
D
E
Yeah,
okay,
yeah
and
it's
in
the
in
the
bottom
area,.
D
All
right,
everybody,
thank
you
so
much
and
look
for
a
Blog
for
me
on,
or
an
email
from
about
the
Visionary
Summit
coming
up
and
think
about.
If
you
wrote
a
Blog
and
if
you've
promised
a
Blog
and
you
haven't
got
it
in
you've
got
we
still
have
time
you
have
about
three
weeks.
B
Oh
Sasha,
do
you
have
a
few
minutes.