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A
A
C
D
C
E
C
D
C
Where's
cdcon
updates,
tracy
or
jackie.
G
G
Pulled
up
really
quick
one
sec,
I
was
unprepared,
I
didn't
realize
you
were
gonna
call
on
me,
first,
okay,
so
all
right!
So
right
now,
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
leaked
a
little
bit
early,
that
is
happening,
is
get
off
summit,
so
that
website
is
up
already
since
it
weeked
out.
G
Yesterday
we
had,
I
think
it
was
a
twitter
handle
something
about
get
ops
that
somehow
found
out
about
it
and
and
leaked
the
news
out
for
us,
so
that
event
is
being
collocated
on
on
the
22nd,
along
with
spinnaker
summit.
Right
now
we
have
939
registrations
and
our
goal
is
3
000.
G
G
However,
sponsorship
sales
are
continuing
to
be
very
strong
right
now
we
have
out
for
signature
or
already
signed
220
220
000
out
of
our
200
000
goal,
and
we
expect
that
to
continue
growing
as
well,
because,
like
we
mentioned
spinnaker
summit
and
gap
summit
just
launch,
and
we
also
have
some
sponsorship
opportunities
around
there
as
well,
so
diamond
and
platinum
are
sold
out.
I've
got
two
gold
and
one
silver
left
and
then
a
bunch
of
add-ons
for
for
spinnaker
summit
and
get
up
summit.
G
The
cfp
closed.
If
for
those
who
have
not
seen
the
early
bird
submissions,
we've
got
seven
that
we
accepted
early
and
in
the
next
few
weeks
the
program
committee
is
working
to
select
that
final
agenda.
The
agenda
is
going
to
be
announced
on
april
2nd.
G
E
Yeah
one
minor
update.
We
also
plan
to
organize
a
janky's
contributor
summit
during
the
time
frame
of
the
event
it's
yet
to
be
confirmed,
but
we're
at
the
target
monday
or
friday
or
saturday,
so
that
it
doesn't
collide
with
other
agenda
items.
H
C
No
worries
yeah,
otherwise
election
updates,
so
nominations
are
open
right
now
and
I
can
never
remember
the
dates,
no
matter
how
many
times
tracy
tells
them
to
me.
So
do
you
want
to
remind
me
now
tracy.
B
Yeah
referencing
blog
post.
I
think
we
have
nominations
closing
tomorrow
and
then
provided
we
we're
satisfied.
We've
got
some
good
nominations,
then
we'll
go
ahead
with
voting,
which
will
be
for
run
for
two
weeks
and
the
voting
will
be
done
from
march
17
to
march
30th.
Anyone
is
eligible
to
run
for
these
seats.
B
The
idea
is
that
they
represent
the
end
user
organization,
point
of
view
and
accordingly,
they'll
be
voted
on
by
the
cdf
end
user
organizations.
So
reps
from
companies
like
netflix
fidelity,
capital,
one
hsbc
and
others.
B
And
yeah,
if
anybody
has
any
questions
about
running
for
those,
let
me
know
yeah
looking
forward
to
having
those
reps
join,
join
this
committee.
E
E
B
Yeah
we're
actually
revisiting
the
the
talk
makeup
and
as
a
proposal
that
dan
help
formulate
to
to
the
governing
board,
but
basically
the
three
classes
of
folks
on
on
the
talk.
So
one
is
project
representatives,
one
is
nominated
positions
and
then
one
is
end
user
representatives.
B
C
I
guess
it
just
yeah
rephrase
that
restate
it
back
yeah,
so
a
big
portion
of
the
talk
will
still
be
representing
projects
that
just
won't
be.
You
know
direct
denominations
from
each
project,
we're
already
at
the
cap
right
now,
so
we
have
to
figure
out
what
to
do
for
the
next
project.
Anyway,
there
are
six
projects
and
the
charter
says:
there's
six
seats,
four
projects.
So
what
happens
to
project
seven
so
yeah?
C
E
C
So
yeah
that
would
be
one
option.
We
could
grow
the
size
of
the
talk.
That's
not
coupled
to
cdf
member
companies,
though
we
could
just
grow
it
forever,
one
new
seat
per
project,
so
we're
keeping
the
size.
I
think
the
current
proposal
keeps
the
size
at
nine,
nine
or
seven
a
camera.
It
keeps
the
size
at
nine
and
sets
aside
a
certain
number
four
projects,
and
then
people
interested
from
projects
will
be
able
to
be
nominated
and
run
and
fill
those
seats.
B
Yeah
and
I
think
we're
looking
to
have
folks
vote
if
they're
involved
with
the
special
interest
groups
as
well
so
cdf
contributors
as.
C
Well,
yet
more
details
are
still
getting
worked
out
with
the
governing
board.
C
Well
we're
on
governance
and
elections
and
stuff.
Maybe
we
should
jump
to
your
next
item
anyway,
like
on
jenkins
governance
updates
and.
C
Come
back
to
the
stuff,
we
still
have
gsoc
updates.
Before
that
all
right,
I
was
skipping
too
many
all
right.
Sorry,
yeah
g
stock
updates
mentors
are
getting
added
now
right.
D
So
cara
got
the
cloudbees
or
not
the
clubbies,
the
jenkins,
sorry,
sorry,
the
jenkins
contributors
added
we
put
out
the
call
for
other
project
reps
to
also
get
their
their
volunteers
into
the
system.
I
think
tracy
got.
You
know
like
tracy
reagan,.
G
D
Other
folks
in
there,
if
anybody
is
confused
by
this
or
as
a
mentor,
wants
to
make
sure
that
they
get
added
into
the
system.
Please
hit
me
up
on
slack
with
your
emails
and
we'll
get
you
added.
D
If
I
understand
correctly,
the
number
of
participants
that
we
have
in
the
system
is
one
of
the
indicators
into
how
many
slots
we
may
get,
because
it
shows
how
many
projects
that
we
can
sustain
so
the
faster
we
can
get
those
in
there,
the
better
and
I'll
put
out
another
poke
on
the
slack
channel
as
well,
and
then
on
a
related
note,
ola
brought
up
the
very
excellent
question
which
is:
do
we
also
want
to
do
season
of
docs?
D
I
know
that
the
jenkins
group
does
it.
I
could
have
sworn
that
ortelius
folks
had
mumbled
something
about
this,
and
so
I
wasn't
sure
who
all
is
here
today
but
wanted
to.
We've
got
jethan
some
other
folks.
If,
if
projects
are
interested
in
also
participating
in
season
of
docs,
we
can,
I
would
help
you
be
happy
to
help
organize
that
I
believe
we've
got
another
week
and
a
half
or
so
before
the
deadline
to
get
the
organization
registered
and,
of
course,
obviously,
tracy
and
dan.
D
If
that's
something
that
y'all
are
cool
with,
I'm
happy
to
look
into
that
a
little
bit
more.
B
E
E
Application
organization
profile
so
pretty
much
like
in
google
seasonal
as
a
google
summer
of
code,
they
changed
the
prop
process
for
g-sort
a
bit
this
year,
so
where
they
don't
have
a
side.
Instead
of
that,
everything
is
driven
by
google
forms
and
emails,
but
in
principle
the
application
is
the
same.
D
G
D
E
Yeah,
you
can
send
an
invitation.
I
sent
an
invitation
to
jenkins
organization,
so
I
can
just
repurpose
it
for
the
cdf.
Oh
perfect,
okay,.
D
F
F
So
the
question
was:
what
is
the
preferred
license
for
not
only
like
documentation
and
types
of,
I
wouldn't
say
for
lack
of
a
better
specs
or
standards
that
we
should
be
using
for
the
event
sig
and
then
also
we
are
for
seeing
some
coding
as
well
coming
out
of
the
event
sig.
So
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
using
a
correct
license.
I
thought
it
was
apache.
2
is
one
of
the
preferred
ones
by
the
linux
foundation,
but
just
want
to
get
some
input.
C
Know
that
there
is
a
preferred
one,
I
think
the
rule
last
night
in
the
charter's
any
osi
approved
license
is
okay
in
the
cdf,
most
projects
have
gone
with
apache
2
anything.
I
haven't
been
able
to
find
anything
in
the
charter,
the
cdf
charter,
restricting
it
any
further
tracy
have
you
had
a
search.
B
C
Yeah,
so
we
don't
have
any
policy
in
the
cdf
projects
could
have
their
own
policy
further,
restricting
it
if
they
wanted
to,
but
you
don't
have
that,
otherwise,
you
wouldn't
be
asking,
and
so
the
lf
policy
the
umbrella
one.
It's
just
any
osi
approved
open
source
license.
If
you
don't
want
to
read
and
learn
about
all
of
them,
all
the
rest
of
the
projects
have
seemed
to
chose
an
apache
too
and
then
creative
common
one
of
the
creative
commons
families
for
docs.
C
I
think
specifications
and
data
are
a
different
category
too,
to
complicate
things
further.
So
if
the
event
sig
is
going
to
produce
formal
specifications
or
standards,
we
should
probably
chat
with
lf
council
about
what
to
do
with
those.
I
don't
know
the
answer,
but
we
could
get
you
somebody
to
help
yeah.
F
Worry
right,
so
that's
where
we
would
need
to
because
that's
the
where
they
foresee
is
some
specs
and
some
standards
to
come
out,
and
they
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
covered
correctly.
F
C
Like
you
said
it
can
get
complicated,
pretty
quick,
yeah
and
I'll
just
reiterate:
there's
a
big
difference
between
the
words
specification
and
standard
that
I
think
a
lot
of
us
gloss
over.
So
if
you
don't
know
like
which
standards
again,
I
shouldn't
be
pretending
to
be
a
lawyer,
but
I
think
my
rule
of
thumb
is,
if
you
don't,
if
you
don't
plan
on
actually
submitting
this
to
a
formal
standards
body
like
iso
or
something
like
that,
use
the
lowercase
s
specification.
C
Okay,
if
you
do
plan
on
that,
then
let's
get
wellness
council
involved
and
figure
out
the
right
license
and
plan
for
all
of
that
stuff,
andre.
F
Do
you
think
we're
going
to
go
the
formal
route
to
submit
it
to
like
an
iso.
H
I
we
didn't
consider
that,
yet
I
guess
we
need
to
to
see
what
what
others
have
done
this
space.
If,
to
be
honest,
I
I
don't
know
what
the
advantages
and
disadvantages
would
be.
F
H
F
I
okay
we'll
take
that
back
to
the
event
sig
about
the
capital,
s
versus
the
lowercase
s,
spec.
B
I
mean,
I
can
briefly
say
the
the
capital
s
is:
is
a
long
involved
process,
usually
involving
many
years
it
versus
kind
of
what
we
we
call
kind
of
de
facto
specifications,
which
tend
to
be
more
code
oriented.
F
The
barney,
the
barney
specification-
everybody
plays
nice
together.
B
Yes,
so
yeah,
but
either
way
for
whichever
direction
you
you
want
to
head
yeah
we
can.
We
can
get
some
support
and
some
further
information.
F
Okay
and
then
I
think
this
is
further
on,
or
maybe
I
just
missed
it,
but
cla
should
we
be
dealing
with
that
for
the
events
sig
or
is
cla
going
to
be
covered
somewhere
else
for
like
at
the
cd
foundation
level.
B
Yeah,
I
I
think
what
we
might
need
to
think
about
is.
If
there
is
a
specific
code
element,
we
might
want
to
put
it
under
a
banner
of
a
like
a
specific
project
or
a
specific
output,
and
not
necessarily
tied
directly
to
the
event
sig.
In
the
same
way
where
we
have
a
repo
at
the
moment,
which
is
just
you
know,
meeting
information
and
general
things,
so
it
might
be
when
it
kind
of
the
artifacts
start
to
become
significant.
B
We
consider
kind
of
naming
them
and
putting
them
in
a
distinct
repo
and
then
working
out.
What
the
best
way
to
to
you
know
not
just
manage
licenses
and
clas
with
governance
around
it
as
well.
F
Okay
and
then-
and
I
mentioned
this
yesterday
to
tracy-
I
did
find
that
the
artwork
repo
does
not
have
a
license
associated
with
it.
B
Yeah
gail
is,
I
think,
that's
something
we
can
follow
up
to
make
sure.
I
don't.
B
Gail,
can
we
take
an
action
to
follow
up
on
that
sure
thing.
H
C
Yeah
so
yeah
all
that
stuff.
That's
part
of
the
scenes
you
have
the
lowercase
s,
specifications,
the
only
one
that
is
more
on
the
standard
side
that
you
might
know
of
just
some
other
examples
is
like
the
oci
stuff.
That's
why
that's
the
whole
separate
entity
from
the
cncf
that
don't
even
actually
have
formal
standards
yet,
but
they're
set
up
so
that
they
could
propose
those
oci
things
as
standards
if
they
need
to.
H
C
C
Is
saul
goodman
jenkins
governance
back
to
oleg.
E
E
So
for
the
jenkins
governance
board
member
we
applied
to
the
interim
process,
everything
will
cause
will
be
the
new
governance
board
member
until
december
2022.
E
So
everything
is
active,
contributor
conference
speaker
and
she
was
one
of
contributors
to
the
jenkins
configurations
code.
E
E
C
So
we
do
have
it
for
budget,
but
that's
separate
from
sponsorships
that
are
direct
from
companies
to
projects.
C
Cool
yeah:
if
there
were
any
sponsorship
stuff,
that's
up
the
projects
to
work
out
themselves,
but
yeah.
We
do
you
have
the
details
on
the
budgets
handy.
C
B
Thanks,
yes,
so
the
board
approved
the
budget
for
the
year
and
I
think
it
pretty
much
on
the
infrasight
is
the
same
as
we
had
for
last
year,
which
should
allow
for
for
jenkins
to
kind
of
continue
the
same
rate,
although
if
we
have
more
projects
incoming
and
more
requests,
I
think
we'll
have
to
figure
that
out.
C
B
B
E
B
E
The
total
cost
by
something
like
three
key
per
month
over
the
past
half
a
year
and
also
maybe
in
talks
with
other
vendors
about
sponsorships.
So
we
don't
forget
about
introducing
the
course
but
yeah.
I
wanted
to
know
whether
there
is
a
specific
target
for
us.
B
Yeah
yeah,
let
me
get
back
to
you
on
that
this.
A
few
background
things
we
haven't
been
able
to
prioritize
yet-
and
I
know
like
cncf-
is
doing
some
interesting
thing
around
sponsored
cloud
credits.
So
I've
been
tracking
that
program
to
see
if
it's
something
we
can
replicate
in
cdf
but
yeah.
I
just
just
haven't.
D
That,
on
a
related
note,
it
reminds
me
of
something
that
came
up
around
gsoc,
which
was
what
is
the
expectation
as
far
as
who
is
providing.
You
know
the
funding
essentially
for
projects
at
the
moment
it
seems
a
little
bit
unclear
and
I
think
we're
trying
to
default
to
the
projects
need
to
figure
it
out,
but
is
that
the
official
party
line
that
we
should
be
communicating.
B
Yeah,
unfortunately,
we
haven't
sort
of
found
something
that
works
smoothly
and
we
we
had
this
last
year.
I
don't
know
if
it
was
without
richie
or
g
sock,
where
I
I
think
dan
lawrence
actually
helped
out
with
some
of
the
students
needs,
but
we
don't
have
a
yeah
a
formalized
way
to
to
get
that
set
up.
Ideally,
we
would
have
something
longer
term,
but
we're
just
not
there
yet.
B
D
C
Is
there
anything
imminent
for
the
jenkins
stuff?
I
know.
Last
year
there
was
some
stuff
with
like
kosuke's
credit
card.
I
think
you
should
be
set
up
on
the
cdf
billing
stuff
for
now
right,
like
you're,
not
getting
those
you've
gotta.
E
Personal
credit
cards,
for
example,
for
domain
etc.
We
haven't
transferred
all
the
assets
to
syria
from
our
side
yet,
but
since
we
resolved
the
trademark
question,
we
can
probably
prosecute
this
yeah
as
well.
E
E
B
Come
on
now,
oh,
I
had
one
quick
other
thing.
I
just
wanted
to
congratulate
the
events
sig
folks.
We
just
got
the
announcement
out
today
about
that
group
and
yeah.
It
was
a
another
great
kind
of
team
effort
with
lots
of
comment,
quotes
and
testimonials
from
members.
I'm
just
gonna
stick
that
in
here,
but
yeah.
I
thought
just
take
another
moment
to
to
celebrate
this.
This
really
great
effort
and
just
being
at
the
meeting
on
monday,
a
lot
of
energy
there,
a
lot
of
pr's
and
discussions
flying
around
so
yeah.
B
E
E
F
Yes,
that
was
that
topic
is
being
discussed,
so
we
ran
out
on
time
last
week
to
get
into
the
details,
but
that
is
on
the
discussion
list
and
you'll
see
it
in
the
the
pr
discussions
where
that's
come
up
multiple
times
so
we're
not
forgetting
about
it.
F
I
believe
either
it's
next
week
or
a
couple
weeks
out
our
next
meeting
or
the
meeting
after
we're
gonna.
Do
a
there's
gonna,
be
a
presentation
around
that
so
keep
an
eye
out
on
the
agenda.
Yeah
great.
F
Yeah,
we're
always
looking
for
presenters
for,
like
a
little
demo.
B
Oh
and
one
other
shout
out
yeah
if
folks
can
make
it
to
the
interoperability
sig
meeting
this
thursday,
I
think
dina
portman
is
gonna,
come
along
from
google
and
talk
about
the
amazing
work
she's
doing
with
the
four
keys
project
for
kind
of
using
systems,
data
to
track
dora,
metrics
and
all
the
kind
of
integrations
they've
done,
and
I
think
that
that
specific
conversation
will
be.
B
You
know
focused
on
the
interoperability
side
of.
Is
this
something
that
we
can
help
used
to
push
for
interoperability,
and
what
integrations
can
we
do?
I
think
techton
already
works
with
it,
but
they'd
be
interested
in
other
projects,
taking
a
look
and
and
providing
integrations
or
working
with
them
to
to
submit
pull
requests.
So
yeah
a
pretty
hot
topic
that
I
think
we're
discussing
in
lots
of
different
parts
of
cdf
sent
me
at
the
end
user
console
as
well.