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B
B
Anymore,
scouting
yeah
well
last
week
was
Bastrop
so
right
outside
of
Austin,
so
heat
index
between
112
and
120.
insane
and
I
was
like.
Oh
well,
I'm
gonna.
You
know
my
little
boy
scout.
You
know
my
Scout
camp
hack
as
an
adult
is
going
to
be
taking
the
BSA
lifeguard
class,
hang
out
at
the
pool
the
whole
week.
B
Well,
yeah
right
yeah,
they
beat
me
down,
they
were
like
no
part
of
this
is
Open.
Water
training
go
down
to
the
waterfront
Lake
Bastrop.
The
part
of
the
lake
that
we're
in
is
the
outlet
for
the
natural
gas
power
plant.
Water
temp
is
about
92,
95
degrees,
yeah,
not
cooling
at
all.
I'm
gonna
rescue
kayak,
like
like
splashing
water,
on
myself
in
the
kayak,
and
it's
like
this
is
not
helping.
B
E
E
B
C
B
No
not
yet,
but
you
got
to
be
14.
we're
looking
forward
to
that
trip,
because
my
dad
wants
to
go
so
he
just
turned
70.
he's
doing
a
segment
on
the
Appalachian
Trail
this
summer.
He
he's
yeah,
he's
really
hard,
and
so
the
three
of
us
want
to
go,
and
my
mom
and
my
wife
are
like
oh
well,
we'll
just
hang
out
in
Taos
go
do
yoga
and
ceramic
Studios.
You
know.
B
A
Well,
it's
quite
beautiful
I
have
not
been
to
the
camp
there,
but
I've
been
to,
of
course,
that
area
yeah
and
you
know
a
really
cool
place
to
go
when
you
drop.
If,
if
you
do
go,
is
to
go
stay
at
the
St
James
Hotel,
which
is
in
is
right
there.
It's
it's
on
the
way
it's
in
the
entry
practice
practically
to
Philmont.
So.
A
That
it's
in
Cimarron,
okay
and
it
is
cool
because
it
is
one
of
the
oldest
hotels
in
the
west,
and
it
is
where
the
Colfax
County
wars
occurred.
Okay,
so
when
you
go
into
the
bar,
you
can
see
The
Gunshot,
you
can
see
where
all
the
bullet
holes
are.
There
were
many
people
killed
there
because
it
was
a
serious
war
going
on
between
the
rich
people
in
Colorado
and
the
homesteaders
in
New
Mexico.
A
There's
a
bunch
of
there
was
a
bunch
of
homesteading
that
was
done
in
New
Mexico
and
then
a
bunch
of
doctors
and
a
few
Senators
decided
to
do
a
buy
a
bunch
of
the
Northern
New
Mexico
and
they
kind
of
pushed
through
this
contract.
And
then
they
wanted
to
push
everybody
off
the
property
and
they
didn't
go
and
they
were
all
from.
Most
of
them
were
from
had
just
finished
fighting
in
this
in
the
Civil
War
and
they
were
all
from
the
south.
A
B
D
A
B
A
Four
years
ago,
if
they
hadn't
gone,
they
would
have
been
sent
to
being
a
fire
mess.
So
yeah
yeah,
that's
what
Steve's
nephew
had
to
do.
He
was
there
for
a
month
just
doing
fire
work,
because
there
wasn't
anything
else
you
could
do
if
they
just
sent
all
the
older
guys
to
go
out
and
literally
run
chainsaws
and
clean
up
messes
from
the
fires.
We
had
some
really
bad
fires
out
there.
B
F
F
F
So
the
first
quick
update
I
wanted
to
remind
everyone
that
the
project
representative
elections
for
the
TOC
are
going
on.
So
we
have
six
candidate
for
from
six
project
for
for
seats.
Voting
is
in
progress
and
it
will
close
on
26th
of
January.
So
if
you're
a
beach
ball-
and
you
haven't
thought
it
yet,
please
do
so.
F
Yeah
and
also
about
seek
archival
some
time
ago,
we
discussed
about
archiving
old,
six
and
Patty
did
the
work
for
the
security
Sig
and
I.
Also
archived
the
Gita
Brito
now
and
I
made
I
prepared
a
tiara
for
the
Chinese
localization's
sake
and
I
guess
the
main
thing
I
wanted
to
share
there
I
added
a
quick
checklist
of
things
that
needs
to
be
done
to
a
cabin
sake
in
case.
We
have
to
do
it
again
in
future,
so
we
have
a
reference
of
what
needs
to
be
done.
F
E
F
C
F
Yeah
and
for
the
mailing
list,
I
I,
don't
really
know,
but
I
can
also
ask
Patty.
If
anyone
knows
anything
about
group
IO,
if
it's
possible
to
make
the
mailing
list
read
only
I
think
it's
maybe
nice
to
have
if
it's
possible
to
kind
of
archive
it
say
if
someone's
fighting
to
it,
it's
not
expecting
a
response.
F
D
C
C
F
This
is
a
very
old
item
from
2019
and
the
idea
is
that
to
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
policy
around
how
we
deal
with
things
like
logo,
brand
ownership,
CLA
dco
requirements,
licensing
requirements
and
so
forth.
So
I
think
we
have
some
bits
here
and
there,
but
we
don't
really
have
a
policy,
so
yeah
I
just
bring
fatty
I,
don't
know
if
anyone
has
wants
to
discussed
this
I
just
wanted
to
give.
C
A
Yeah
we
just
just
on
that
topic.
We
kind
of
just
ran
into
this
conversation
when
we
brought
imporus
over
as
a
sub
project,
particularly
around
like
the
logo
and
and
the
name
and
the
the
logo,
and
if
legals
told
us,
if
there,
if
it
wasn't
copyrighted,
we
didn't,
they
didn't
really
care
so
red
hat
that
had
never
copyrighted
that.
But
if
it
was
copyrighted,
then
there
was
a
other
documents
that
the
Linux
Foundation
would
require.
F
F
E
A
Yeah,
so
when
we
contributed
artillius,
we
had
this
conversation
around
deploy
hub
because
we
thought
we
would
contribute
it
as
deploy
Hub
and
that's
when
we
learned
about
the
initial
trademark
rule
for
them.
So
that's
when
we
created
ortilius
and
renamed
the
pro
the
the
open
source
project,
repo
and
then
I
ran
into
it
again
with
them
for
us,
and
it's
only
for
trademarked
brands.
E
E
A
They
have
to
apply
for
it,
so
we've
like,
for
example,
we
have
never
applied.
We
as
the
CD
Foundation
have
never
applied
for
a
trademark
for
any
of
our
projects.
We
would
have
only
Tran
had
a
trademark
transferred
to
us
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
an
issue
like
like
I,
don't
the
Lesser
Steve
was
Persia
trademarked.
A
F
B
F
Policy,
so
in
the
charter
you
have
this
IP
policy
where
they
talk
about
any
project
that
is
added
with
cncf
must
have
ownership
of
its
trademark
and
local
asset
transferred
to
the
Linux
Foundation.
So
I
think
the
must
refers
to
the
transfer.
Yes,
so
it's
not
that
they
must
have
ownership,
but
they
must
have
the
ownership
transferred.
So
if
they
have
ownership,
they
must
transfer
it.
If.
A
F
F
F
A
I
think
it
I
think
it's
a
great
idea
to
make
sure
that
we're
clear
on
what
we
want
to
see
when
we
bring
over
from
a
legal
standpoint.
If
we
bring
in
a
new
project
because
it
was
I,
Fati
and
I
had
several
emails
back
and
forth
to
try
to
figure
out
what
we
had
to
do
for
emporis
and
the
existing
logo
they
created.
We
had
to
go
find
out
from
red
hat
if
they
ever
trademarked.
It.
D
C
F
Okay,
so
the
other
missing
waiting
for
yourself
streamline
simplifying
project
on
boarding,
as
was
the
idea
to
create
how
to
join
the
CDF
guide
that
we
don't
have
today.
There's
not
much
this
item
today,
yes,
either,
but
I.
Guess
things
like
be
aware
that
you
need
to
transfer
a
trademark
if
you
have
any.
What
is
the
process?
What
the
process
that
looks
like
I
guess,
a
simple
guide
to
to
get
started
the
project,
what
it
means
to
join
and
how
to
join
the
CDF.
A
F
C
A
F
G
G
True
and
I
think
I've
brought
this
up
in
the
past
that
even
just
on
our
website,
we
don't.
We
aren't
really
clear
how
to
join
as
a
product
as
a
project
versus
joining
as
a
member,
so
I'm
thinking
that
maybe
someone
might
immediately
think
I
need
to
pay
a
bunch
of
money
in
order
to
join
as
a
product
project
which
isn't.
F
C
E
F
C
F
Okay,
yeah
I'll
just
go
through
the
issues,
feel
free
to
stop
me
at
any
time.
There
are
questions
comments
on
the
CDF
reference
architecture,
best
practices,
so
this
is
a
work
that
is
started
in
the
best
practices,
special
interest
group,
and
we
have
some
discussions
in
the
seek
interoperability
and
yeah.
So
Millie
said
that
easy
kindly
offered
to
to
help
driving
this
initiative.
I
don't
want
the
normally
say
if
you
want
to
say
more
about
this
sorry,
to
put
you
on
this
one
yeah.
G
I
think
that's!
Okay!
You
know
we
had
an
initial
meeting
about
this.
I
think
we
were
yeah,
definitely
talked
about
bringing
it
into
the
interoperability
group
and
combining
this
work
with
the
kind
of
a
relaunch
of
the
special
interest
group,
but
working
on
it
a
little
bit
in
the
background
too,
between
now
and
when
we
relaunch,
which
will
be
August
3rd.
G
I
guess
just
a
little
bit
of
background
on
the
meeting
that
we
had,
it
was
Andrea
myself
and
a
gentleman
from
F5
working
with
nginx,
Damien,
Curry
and
fatty,
and
we
discussed
you
know
where
the
appropriate
place
to
start
would
be
in
order
to
get
community
engagement,
getting
the
right
drawings
involved
and
deciding
just
how
how
far
down
the
road
we
want
to
go
in
actual
implementation.
Examples
things
like
that,
so
it's
just
just
starting
a
good
time
for
people
to
join.
If
they're
interested
in
this
so
I'm
excited
about
that
work.
Moving
forward.
G
C
F
F
C
F
C
F
F
F
F
F
B
A
Can
you
go
back
to
the
number
169
the
project
communication
map
you
know?
Maybe
we
should
just
ask
each
project
to
provide
us
a
link
to
their
how
to
contribute
page,
and
we
can
have
Roxanne
create
a
page
off
the
website
that
says
how
to
contribute
to
our
projects,
and
it
would
give
a
link
to
each
of
the
Project's
directions,
because
I
know
we
have
worked
quite
hard
on
on
that
and
I
I
know.
A
We
have
links
to
each
one
of
these
say
we
just
go
to
see
the
events.
It's
the
first
one
we
could
have
in
there
in
that
little
box
there
for
each
of
one
a
little
note
that
just
says
how
to
contribute
with
a
link
or
we
could
just
create
a
how
how
to
contribute
guide.
That's
off
the
top,
so
people
see
it
easily
and
then
each
project
is
listed.
They're
each
project
page
is
listed.
D
I
I
go
for
the
second,
where
we
have
a
separate
page
and
how
to
contribute
just
to
make
it,
like.
You
said,
The
more
obvious
and
more
easier
to
navigate
from
instead
of
going
into
each
project
and
seeing
how
to
how
to
contribute.
I.
Think
just
having
the
single
page
like
you're
talking
about,
will
be
more
beneficial
to
people
poking
around
I.
F
A
A
F
Yeah,
yeah
and
I
think
contributors
and
yeah
communication
channels
for
users
as
well
yeah,
because
I've
seen
a
few
times
people
looking
for
where
to
post
questions
about
the
certain
projects
and
because
we
don't
have
all
the
communication
happening
in
the
CDF
slack
either.
So
many
projects
have
their
own
slack
channels
or
other
kind
of
tools
that
they
use.
So
I
think
it's
good
to
have
all
this
information
in
in
one
place
and.
A
A
F
A
F
C
C
F
F
A
C
D
F
C
F
D
D
F
F
A
A
F
F
F
A
A
F
F
D
It
well
some
of
some
of
this
was
going
through
and
trying
to
rework
the
tiles
to
kind
of
allow
for
things
to
be
in
multiple
categories
and
all
that
stuff.
So
I
like
like
Andre
I,
was
saying,
I,
think
fatty
and
us,
and
maybe
even
Roxanne,
were
going
through
and
doing
landscape
updates.
There's
just
some
that
went
through
this
morning
or
last
night.
F
C
D
F
F
All
right,
I
think
that's
all
we
had
so
this
yeah,
that's
all
we
had
in
the
in
the
roadmap.
So
thanks
for
going
through,
we
don't
have
any
project
updates
planned
for
today
we
have
some
upcoming
presentations
so
looking
forward
to
a
presentation
about
the
first
in
July
City,
events
in
August
hotel
is
in
September
and
Jenkins
in
October.
F
G
A
G
G
Can
I
know
there
were
some
there's
other
discussions
going
on
with
interoperability,
like
maybe
post
implementation
of
events,
for
example,
like
talk
about
observability,
stuff
reporting,
stuff
I
know
I'd
be
interested
in
like
attestation.
You
know
movement
of
artifacts
between
components,
things
like
that
which
I
guess
makes
more
sense
in
supply
chain
security,
but
yeah.
We
can
definitely
talk
about
that.
I
know
when
we
relaunched
the
interoperability.
Stick
we'll
be
doing
kind
of
a
presentation
of
what
it
is
and
what
it's
about.
A
F
Yeah
yeah
sure
I
I,
don't
think
I
don't
have
the
feeling
that
we're
like
working
on
saying
things
but
for
sure
we
could.
We
can
have
a
meeting
to
together
to
sync
and
maybe
do
some
planning
together
to
make
sure
we
have
different
topics.
I
mean
on
the
on
the
events
sake,
so
we
used
some
some
of
the
time
in
that
seek
for
like
more
of
the
admin
or
planning
topics
for
the
City
events
project.
F
F
F
This
sounds
like
a
good
idea,
so
I
think
if
you
wanted
to
do
it,
it
would
be
really
welcome
by
both
groups,
but
it
kind
of
stopped
there,
because
it's
we
need
people
basically
to
drive
this
work,
and
you
know
someone
to
say:
okay,
yes,
I'm
going
to
to
work
with
the
different
contributors
involved
and
make
this
happen.
Basically.
F
A
F
F
C
A
Working
on
it,
I'm
making
sure
that
everybody
knows
about
because
they
don't
even
they
didn't
even
know
what
CD
events
were,
so
they
wouldn't
know
to
bring
it
up.
So
I
have
I'm
going
to
continue
pounding
on
them.
With
that
topic,
they'll
go
or
so
they'll
be
like,
don't
see,
Tracy's
name,
they'll
say:
oh,
if
you
say
Tracy's
name
three
times:
she'll
bring
up
CD
events.
D
C
F
F
There
is
a
question
from
Robert
who's,
not
well
in
the
meeting
anymore,
but
how
there
is
Pinnacle
and
Jenkins
integration
going
so
for
this
Pinnacle
One,
the
RC
was
approved,
so
we
have
a
PR
from
jalander
for
the
implementation
and
I.
Think
Ben
from
Apple
is
working
and
setting
up
a
meeting
with
the
Spinnaker
maintainers
to
make
a
demo
of
the
current
implementation
for
the
genkis
integration,
the
Jenkins
plugin
is
published
and
the
official
plugin
repository.
So
that's
current
state.
F
Yeah
I
guess
that
that's
all
of
the
seek
updates
that
I
well
supply
chain
was
mentioned
already
thanks,
Melissa
the
other
thing
that
I
added
to
the
agenda,
but
there's
no
time
for
it.
Today.
Again,
it's
a
follow-up
to
something
we
discussed
briefly
in
the
past
when
I
propose
that
maybe
we
could
consider
this
sandbox
State
for
the
Project
Life
Cycle,
and
we
discussed
at
the
time
that
before
deciding
anything
like
adding,
do
we
need
or
do
we
not
need?