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B
A
All
right
good
to
go
councillors
recognizes
the
quorum.
The
time
now
is
10
a.m.
Gold
coast
time
and
welcome
er.
Now,
before
the
welcome,
oh
yeah
welcome
everyone.
As
for
our
to
my
melty
tradition,
opening
the
council
meeting
with
the
prayer.
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B
A
A
A
And
secondary
councillor,
william
owen
jones,
put
the
motion
to
you
or
info
hands
against
carry
unanimous.
We
go
to
item
three
condolences
I'll
go
to
councillor
taylor.
C
Thank
you
miss
mayor,
I'd
like
to
move
a
message
of
condolence
to
be
sent
to
the
family
of
mr
richard
john
barton
oam,
who
recently
passed
away.
Second.
C
Thank
you
in
1966,
a
young
man,
richard
barton,
known
to
many
as
rick
joined
the
current
surf
life
saving
club
as
a
junior
member,
where
he
carried
out
club
duties
such
as
cleaning,
fundraising
and
maintenance,
as
well
as
patrols
on
cairo
beach
in
1970.
Rick
stepped
up
to
take
on
several
key
positions
within
the
club,
including
treasurer
and
presidency.
C
In
this
era,
saw
a
merging
of
a
young
man
destined
to
become
an
ardent
and
long-time
worker
for
life-saving
in
general
and
surf
life
saving
club
in
particular
during
his
presidency.
In
1984,
the
australian
surf
life.
Saving
championships
were
held
on
carrera
beach
held
as
one
of
the
most
successful
events
in
1992
rick
was
elected
as
a
life
member
of
the
current
surf
life
saving
club
after
holding
commit
committee
position
for
17
years.
C
C
C
You
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
I'd
like
to
move
a
move,
a
message
of
condolence
sent
to
the
family
of
miss
barbara
hutchinson
and
recently
passed
away
secondary
council
toza
barbara,
passed
away
on
the
15th
of
september
2021.
After
a
long
illness
in
1982,
barbara
opened
their
hairdressing
salon
in
the
broad
beach
senior
citizens,
which
was
on
the
old
on
the
existing
gold
coast
convention
site.
Barbara
ran
the
salon
for
until
retiring
in
december
2009,
but
continued
on
the
management
committee
where
she
was
secretary
until
she
resigned
in
april
this
year,
due
to
ill
health.
C
Barbara
gave
25
years
of
service
to
broadband
senior
citizens
management
committee
and
gave
the
committee
great
pleasure
in
naming
the
current
hair
salon,
the
barbara
hutchison
room.
Barbara,
was
such
a
warm
and
friendly
person
over
the
years
due
to
our
dealings
between
the
senior
citizens
and
council
and
builds
a
great
relationship
between
division,
10
office
and
respective
councillors.
C
D
D
Thanks,
mr
mayor
bill,
brewer
was
actually
a
division
14
councillor
from
1988
to
1991,
under
the
leadership
of
the
expel
during
his
time
in
council,
he
donated
his
entire
salary
to
various
charities.
D
He
was
always
very
community-minded,
and
this
was
seen
by
his
activities
as
a
life
member
and
long-serving
president
of
the
coolangatta
tweedheads
golf
club,
as
well
as
spending
25
years.
As
a
secretary
for
for
the
committee
responsible
for
the
establishment
of
the
now
tweed
hospital,
he
was
an
active
rotarian
for
many
years
as
well
as
serving
on
both
the
tweed
heads
and
coolangata
chambers
of
commerce.
D
Bill
had
been
a
retailer
all
his
life.
He
opened
the
first
coal
store
at
what
was
then
called
jazz
land
in
coolangatta.
He
went
on
to
open
a
woolworth
store
in
coolangatta.
Among
other
things,
bill
took
over
the
management
of
the
then
well-known
department
store,
morleys
and
tweetheads,
which
later
became
mires
during
bill's
retirement.
He
remained
very
active
in
the
tugan
area,
establishing
multiple
commercial
buildings,
together
with
his
wife
heather,
they
actually
owned
the
building
that
my
office
is
in.
D
He
married
dr
heather
tuckett,
who
was
the
love
of
his
life
and
to
whom
he
was
married
to
for
43
years.
Bill
is
succeeded
by
his
wife
heather,
his
three
children,
janice,
graham
and
murray,
six
grandchildren
and
three
great-grandchildren
he
was
always
a
well-presented
happy
optimistic
person
who
enjoyed
every
moment
of
his
life
together
with
his
wife
heather.
They
enjoyed
many
travelling
adventures
within
australia
and
internationally
and
were
regular
visitors
on
fraser
island,
where
they
own
a
property.
D
A
Second,
put
the
motion
to
you
or
in
facial
hands
against
my
motion.
Carry
please
include
counsel,
mcdonald.
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
I'd
like
to
for
a
letter
of
condolence
and
a
message
of
sympathy
to
go
to
the
barrie
family.
Please,
on
the
passing
of
their
father,
ray
john
barry.
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
meet
ray
john
barry
on
remembrance
day
2020,
with
all
of
the
changes
with
covert.
There
was
no
remembrance
day
at
the
cenotaph
at
burley,
and
when
I
went
down
to
lay
a
wreath
out
of
respect,
he
was
sitting
there
on
his
own
on
a
bench
seat,
not
aware
that
there
was
to
be
no
remembrance
day
ceremony.
He
was
quite
distressed
and
I
was
fortunate
enough
to
be
able
to
sit
and
spend
some
time
with
him.
E
He
was
a
korean
war
soldier
and
a
gold
coast
resident
since
1966..
He
was
a
member
of
the
rsl
burleigh
head
sub
branch.
He
was
a
well-respected
local.
He
was
a
carpenter
by
trade
and
he
built
the
family's
very
first
home
at
36,
christine
avenue
back
in
1967.,
he's
survived
by
his
two
children,
linda
langdown
and
daryl
barry.
E
E
He
was
born
on
the
14th
of
september
1929
and
passed
away
on
the
22nd
of
september
2021
aged
92
years,
so
one
of
our
very
last
soldiers
there.
So
thank
you.
Okay,.
A
F
John
succumbed
to
a
very
aggressive
brain
tumor
last
week
that
had
no
cure
and
john
is
a
there's
three
ways.
I'd
like
to
describe
john
the
love
story,
the
entertainer
and
the
giver.
Having
met
john
and
faye
is
an
inspiration
for
the
institution
of
marriage.
After
42
years
of
marriage,
you
meet
john
and
faye,
and
you
get
a
sense
of
what's
possible.
Just
a
beautiful,
beautiful
love
story
who
went
through
life
together
to
contribute
to
society.
F
John
was
an
entertainer,
and
I
enjoyed
many
times
down
at
the
south
ball
bowls
club,
and
it
was
pretty
evident
that
he'd
had
a
very
thorough
entertaining
career
that
we
got
to
then
benefit
down
at
the
local
bowls
club.
What
people
may
not
have
known
about
john
is
that
all
his
receipts
from
his
gigs
as
an
entertainer,
went
and
was
donated
to
the
cancer
support
sisters,
john
nursed,
his
wife
through
three
episodes
of
cancer
and
was
also
would
often
dress
up
as
the
the
pink
bear
mascot
for
the
cancer
support
sisters.
F
There
was
nothing
that
john
would
not
do
for
the
cancer
support
sisters,
so
he
was
a
complete
giver.
That's
who
he
was
in
life
john,
is
survived
by
his
four
children,
his
eight
grandchildren
and
his
one
great
grandson,
faye.
We
know
you
are
hurting,
we
send
you
our
message
of
condolence
and
I
promise
to
john
to
support
the
cancer
support
sisters
in
any
way
I
can
to
support
his
legacy.
Thank
you.
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A
That
ends
the
condolences
we
moved
now
to
the
next
item.
Merrill
minute
councillors
moved
procedural
motion
to
consider
the
mayoral
minutes
after
item
11.4
from
ete.
It
deals
about
destination,
gold
coast
and
all
right
secondary.
A
A
Sound
like
to
move
for
confirmation,
cancer
gates,
second
to
cancer,
call
well
put
the
motion
to
you.
All
in
fact
show
hands
against
motion
carried
next
item
mayor's
report.
It's
quite
a
lengthy
one.
So
I
know
some
of
you
will
want
to
read
the
minutes
and
get
the
whole
picture
of
it,
but
but
I'll
just
really
do
an
executive
summary.
A
All
right
councillors,
you
know
we
voted
to
about
the
gold
coast,
play
money
rewards,
and
that
was
the
launch
of
it
down
south
council
gail
o'neill
was
there
and
it
was
a
fun.
A
It
was
a
fun
day
that
we're
able
to
let
people
know
that
there's
sixty
thousand
of
vouchers
they
were
sold
in
that
will
be,
were
being
sold
and
over
fo
tonight
people
go
out
and
dine
and
spend
it's
injected.
A
I'm
reported
that
about
seven
million
dollars
into
the
gold
coast
economy
so
well
done.
I
think,
there's
another
million
left
there
that
we're
going
to
do
for
basically
coolant
out
of
business,
so
well
done
well
done
to
destination
gold
coast
on
implementing
that
then
met
the
business
at
cooling.
Gata
businesses.
A
Council
o'neil,
initiated
the
meeting
with
the
greatest
greater
southern
gold
coast
chamber
of
commerce,
to
really
bring
me
to
be
aware,
more
of
the
enormous
challenges
that
the
border
residents
and
business
are
experiencing
and
with
that
you
know
that
I've
escalated
my
commentary
and
taken
it
to
the
state
government.
A
Basically,
the
main
thing
is
the
lockdown
is
the
one
that's
killing
us
and
and
the
national
cabinet
agreed
on
80
percent
and
and
any
premier
who's
trying
to
shift
the
goal
post.
I
think
people
won't
wear
it,
there'll
be
more
protests
and-
and
people
will
ignore
it
if
you
have
a
double
vaccinated,
80
percent
throughout
australia-
and
I
can't
see
well
it'll-
be
a
misstep
by
any
premier
to
do
that.
A
Citizenship
ceremony
there
was
three:
it's
a
bit
of
a
backlog,
three
ceremony,
all
which
had
400
candidates,
so
it's
1200
all
up
and
we
had
austral
australiana
songs
from
the
blender
citizen,
choir
harmony
in
paradise,
coastal
charisma-
and
I
I
note
that
council
battle
and
lumsden
enjoy
those
music
very
much
because
he
attend
numerous
a
couple
of
the
citizenship
and
it's
wonderful
that
you're
there,
because
you
can
see
how
enthusiastic
our
new
citizens
embraced
that
day
and
each
time
you
come
you
you
kind
of
be
part
of
that
and
it's
wonderful.
A
G
You,
mr
mayor,
they
had
wonderful
numbers
through
the
show,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
thought
was
really
profound
is
that
you
know
that
they're
managing
to
be
quite
sustainable
over
the
long
term
in
the
motorbike
show
ground.
It's
been
a
great
asset
for
them
and
they're
utilizing
it
to
their
best
advantage
with
lots
of
major
events,
so
that
now
that
we're
kind
of
lifting
our
covered
restrictions
on
major
events.
G
It
was
really
encouraging
to
see
so
many
of
our
farming
communities
get
involved
in
the
in
the
cattle
and
the
chicken
and
and
and
the
pig
races.
I'm
not
sure
you
saw
the
pig
races,
but
it
was
a
great
event
enjoyed
by
many
from
the
broader
gold
coast.
It
was
excellent.
A
Yeah
and
and
and
really
it's
wonderful
to
celebrate
rural
residents,
and
so
the
funny
thing
was,
I
got
there:
a
bit
early
got
a
bit
hungry.
I
thought
we
were
going
to
have
a
little
bit,
nibby
no
bit
bite
to
eat,
and
I
saw
a
section
there
of
vip
people
and
I
thought
I
must
be
one
of
those.
So
I
went
in
there
sat
down.
A
Nobody
said
anything
had
a
beautiful
roast
dinner
and
everything
and-
and
they
tell
me
later-
didn't
know
what
to
say,
but
it
was
reception
for
the
judges,
but
they
made
me
feel
very
welcome
so
anyway.
Yes,.
A
So
but
I
was
good,
I
get
to
meet
more
more
people
launch
of
the
cbody
sundown
southport's
nighttime
economy,
we're
trying
to
shake
it
up
and-
and
I
think,
if
you
saw
the
television,
it's
a
quite
a
lively
event-
council
patterson,
how
did
you,
how
did
it
go
on
the
actual
day.
F
You
know
when
we
create
these
events,
you're
completely
dependent
on
the
community
coming
on
board
and
participating,
and
the
community
just
absolutely
took
it
on
made
it
their
own.
It
was
a
fantastic
night
we're
looking
forward
to
the
next
one,
which
can
be
opening
up
the
top
of
australia
fair
at
the
end
of
this
month,
so
be
every
last
friday
of
the
month,
but
spectacular
start
and
great
for
the
cbd.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
vibrant,
is
the
key
for
that.
One
next
item,
which
was
good
fun
to
be
able
to
go
to
the
gilmore
space
technology
events
rocket
facility
and
giving
us
plans
what
they're
intending
to
do
right
here
on
the
gold
coast
and
further
investment
they're
raising
87
million
dollars.
A
A
We
punch
above
our
weight
in
a
lot
of
things
and
we're
right
up
there
and
with
this
congratulations
to
adam
and
his
team.
Next
one
official
opening
of
the
cali
beach
club
councillor
taylor
was
there
and
and
the
team
artisan
hospitality.
A
I
invested
10
million
dollars
in
the
harder
surface
paradise
5,
000
square
meters
footprint.
The
fun
was
had
by
all.
I
think
the
key
there
got
to
go
back
when
it's
a
bit
at
nighttime
for
real
and
so
I'll,
see
you
there
councillor
taylor.
A
City,
business
attraction,
mcmec,
plastic
and
there
are
now
eligible
to
receive
three
million
dollars
in
funding
to
help
grow
their
business
now
through
the
attraction
program
and
the
investment
attraction
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
key
to
bring
best
practice
business
to
the
gold
coast.
They
recycle
anything
to
do
with
plastic,
and
it's
quite
amazing.
A
So
next
one
is
goku's
chinese
community,
mid-autumn
festival.
I
coined
it
really
the
the
moon
festival,
because
it's
full
moon
and
cancelled
bailed,
bailden,
lumsden
and
councillor
taylor
were
there
we're
a
very
multicultural
society,
the
gold
coast
and
there's
always
fun
in
various
sector
and
our
calends
events.
A
In
this
time
we
celebrate
the
really
the
the
moon
festival
and
the
moon
cake
that
was
had
by
all
next
one
was
the
mayor
students,
ambassador
leadership
conversation
I
was
asked
to
go
to
study
gold,
co,
student
hub
and
basically,
it's
wonderful
to
see
our
students
ambassador.
Promoting
studying
on
the
gold
coast
is
nothing
like
having
a
student
saying
how
good
it
is
as
a
third-party
endorsement,
and
I
did
enjoy
basically
a
conversation
style
interview
with
the
students.
A
Rugby
doubleheader.
As
you
know,
sea
bus
did
that
and
and
the
wallabies
won
both
matches,
springbok
and
argentina.
A
It
was
four
wins
in
a
row
and
it's
the
first
time
in
the
history
of
the
rugby
championship
that
australia
at
the
wallabies
has
string
four
wins
together
so
they're
off
to
tokyo.
Now,
and
hopefully
they
get
some
more
wins
there
and
and
then,
and
then
is
it.
2023
is
the
world
cup
in
in
paris
I'll
see
you
there
councillor,
taylor,
it'll,
be
good
fun.
A
So
next
item
tokyo,
2020
gold
coast
athlete
welcome
home
councillor,
gage
patterson
and
neil
taylor,
belden
blamsden
and
owen
jones
are
all
there.
A
It's
wonderful
to
show
our
thanks
to
our
homegrown
olympians
and
paralympians
extraordinary
year
of
challenges
and
well
done
to
all
and
and
it's
fantastic
it's
only
three
years
to
paris
and
and
it's
one
of
the
other
proud
moment
of
us
being
a
councillor
and
the
mayor
to
be
able
to
share
in
that
success.
A
Art
box
graffiti
or
tomb
olympics,
or
you
might
have
saw
the
front
page
today.
As
you
see,
I
am
not
getting
a
sex
change,
you
know,
so
it's
like
yeah
and
I'll
be
doing
some
interview
out
there
and
expect
another
oaa
complaint
because
I'm
not
going
to
hold
back
artbox
graffiti.
A
So
if
you're,
talented
and
you
can
do
your
artwork
and
we
can
wrap
it
around
your
artwork
around
the
electricity
box,
it
looks
a
lot
better.
There's
a
hoax
meant
to
be
a
horse
in
there.
That's
near
the
turf
club,
and-
and
you
know
we
want
local
artists
and
if
they
use
your
artwork,
it's
five
hundred
dollars
meeting
with
new
the
new
dfat
state
director.
A
So
just
giving
me
a
brief
what's
happening
and
we
talked
a
lot
about
china
and
and
at
the
local
level.
I
will
continue
our
friendship
with
chengdu,
zhuhai
bay,
high
and
delight
and
what
I
won't
buy
into
the
federal
level,
a
meeting
with
junior
council
executive
committee
and
that's
another
fun
day.
We
basically
had
a
they
had
prepared
questions.
A
I
did
my
best
to
give
them
some
answers,
and
but
I
gave
them
a
task
to
go
away
and
analyze
and
do
so.
I
think
there'll
be
some
petitions
coming
in
from
our
junior
council
executive.
There
you
go
and
and
by
2024
they're
all
eligible
to
vote,
so
we'll
consider
their
petition
seriously
super
yacht
simulation
project.
A
A
We
can
allow
up
to
130
meters
of
super
yacht
they've
done
simulation.
That
can
be
done.
The
dredging
is
being
done
to
give
that
capability.
So
the
super
yacht
economy
is
going
to
jump
right
now.
Gold
coast
receive
about
36.5
million
dollars
injected
in
2020
23
super
yacht
vessels
that
come
in
and
came
and
go
so
this
this
will
accelerate
it
further
men's
christmas
prayer,
breakfast
council,
pauline
young
councilor,
neil
vorster
and
taylor,
were
there
and
around
100
pastors
and
principals
of
local
schools
and
and
leaders
were
there.
A
We
had
to
cut
the
numbers
down.
So
what
we
did
was
that
we
did
that
we
did
the
hundred
and-
and
I
think
next
thursday,
you
have
to
look
at
your
diary.
We're
doing
it
again,
of
course,
with
different
pastors
and
that
so
for
those
counselors
who
didn't
attend
there
you're
very
welcome
to
contact
jackie
in
my
office
and
come
along
for
those
who
did
attend.
A
If
you
want
to
come
again,
come
again,
no
worries,
god
will,
god
will
want
to
hear
from
you
launch
me
senior
concert,
and,
yes,
I
think
you
and
I
donna
will
be
doing
those
there's
three
of
them
and
and
this
one
is
they
were
singing
behind
the
scene.
There
was
phantom
the
opera
and
I'm
the
phantom
there
without
the
mask
women's
cricket
international
t20.
I
went
there
to
the
first
game.
It
was
rained
out
and
and
india.
A
I
think
they
were
well
in
well
well
ahead,
but
the
two
games
behind
it
afterwards,
the
next
couple
of
days,
the
australian
women
played
really
well
and
they
took
out
the
series
official
opening
of
the
newly
renovated
terry
white
kenmart
at
australia,
fair
council
patterson,
was
there
terry
and
ronda
have
been
operating
pharmacy
in
australia
for
60
years,
and
this
this
shop
here
has
was
the
first
franchise
shop
and
it's
been
there
for
31
years
and
they've
spent
the
money
and
done
it
up
and
terry
and
rhonda
are
so
humble.
You
know
highly
energetic.
A
I
did
say
that
I'll
have
to
ask
ronda
what
what
vitamins
she
takes
out
of
her
shelf,
because
she's
so
energetic,
and
I
want
to
know
what
she's
doing
there,
but
500
pharmacies
throughout
australia
from
the
two
of
them.
It's
a
wonderful
another,
wonderful
love
story,
gold,
coast,
disaster,
preparedness
forum.
We
did
there,
we
had
all
the
stakeholders
in
there
and
so
we're
going
to
be
ready
for
the
storm.
A
So
the
message
to
all
of
gold
coasters
is
that
for
them
to
start
prepared
as
well
and
the
best
way
to
prepare,
get
on
the
council
website
and
there's
a
list
of
all
the
items
that
you
should
have
for
preparedness
counselors
like
well.
What's
that
there's
some
more?
Is
it?
Is
there
more?
Is
there
another
slide?
Oh
okay,
I'm
just
packing
the
disaster
there
any
other
slide
there.
H
A
Okay,
the
main
trust
of
this
one
is
to
support
november
and
and
really
it's
men's
health,
particularly
in
suicide
prevention,
prostate
cancer,
testicle
cancer,
etc.
So
I
encouraged
one
in
november.
If
be
there
and
start
growing
your
mo
and
get
the
message
out,
I
think
shared
a
message
on
facebook
and
the
like.
You
know,
I'm
sorry,
I
you're
saying
yes,
you
did.
You
did
all
right,
so
there
you
go,
there's
no
more!
Is
it
okay?
A
I
A
Council
is
basically
putting
that
what's
that
one
there,
I've
got
one
here
to
move
it
to
the
nova
november.
I'm
sticking
to
another
next
council
meeting
to
keep
pushing
ahead,
but
but
I
I
invite
other
councils
speak
which
one
which
ones
to
go,
but
that's
my
procedural
motion
to
let's
bring
it
to
fruition.
There's
other
discussion
further
to
that.
So
before
I
ask
for
secondary
I'll
go
to
council
councillor
owen
jones.
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I'd.
I'd
be
happy
to
second
that
I
think
that
it's
been
clearly
in
the
community
for
a
long
period
of
time
and
the
community
that
I
represent
is
anxious
to
the
council
and
make
a
resolution.
We
clearly
deferred
to
get
some
additional
information
from
the
officers
that
hasn't
arrived
for
today's
meeting,
but
I
think
the
in
regards
to
the
officer's
report
and
recommendation.
It
may
very
well
be
able
to
arrive
for
the
first
of
november
and
allow
the
council
to
make
a
decision.
Mr
man,
yeah.
A
A
Come
on
in
come
on
in
all
right,
we've
got.
I
want
to
stole
jonas
thunder
recognition
of
service
as
employee.
Take
it
away.
Mr
ceo.
K
K
There
we
go
so
so
what
I'll
do
is?
There's
seven
attendees.
So
I'll
I'll
read
out
a
bit
of
a
bio
and
mr
mayor,
you
can
make
the
presentation
then
there's
another
four
that
will
be
provided
presentations
at
their
respective
directorate
functions,
so
the
first
one
is
brian
carl
known
as
barney
brian
started.
Work
at
the
southport
depot
working
on
installation
of
new
sewer
network
then
moved
to
the
ashmore
depot
installing
sewers
for
new
housing
developments.
K
So
in
late
the
late
80s
he
was
transferred
to
a
maintenance
section
working
as
a
maintenance
ganger
in
southport
in
2001
brian
was
promoted
to
the
position
of
team
leader
and
by
2012
multi-skilling
changed
the
role
into
a
works
officer
responsible
for
crews,
looking
after
both
water,
sewage
and
recycled
water
across
the
gold
coast,
brian
karl.
K
I
mean
the
next
one's
michael
doyle,
who's
ep
and
e,
so
michael
started
in
albertshire
council
in
august
1980
as
an
administration
officer,
assisting
building
inspectors
michael
and
became
a
trainee
building
inspector
system
building
inspector
and
finally
becoming
a
fully
qualified
building
inspector
michael
progressed,
the
role
of
principal
billing
surveyor
and
began
organizing
the
building
certification
group
within
the
building
and
technical
services.
Branch
michael
eventually
moved
into
the
current
role
of
coordinator
development
compliance.
So
michael
doyle,.
K
Then
this
is
the
peter
holliday
from
lifestyle
and
community.
So
peter
started
his
career
in
1981
at
albert
shire.
He
worked
in
various
roles
at
the
time
sponsor
for
maintaining
our
roads
parks
and
open
space,
and
he
also
did
community
work
as
auxiliary
fire
fighter
until
the
mid
1990s
2007
became
an
infrastructure
inspector
and
currently
works
in
the
position
of
asset
inspector
for
parks
and
open
spaces,
performs
hundreds
of
asset
inspections
a
day
and
is
always
willing
to
improve
city
outcomes.
K
Next
is
gary
kettle
from
water
and
waste,
so
gary
joined
council
in
1981
became
an
excavated
operator
moved
into
the
water
maintenance
area
tobacco
operator,
assisting
in
repairs
of
broken
water
mains
services
with
minor
construction
works,
gary
progressed
to
to
being
a
ganger
where
he
claims
to
be,
or
he
doesn't
claim
and
he's
his
work.
Crew
claims
to
be
one
of
them.
The
best
and
most
efficient
gang
is
so
fantastic
in
1997,
garry's
promoted
technical
officer.
K
K
Gary's
an
apology,
but
anyway
well
done
gary
next-
is
ian
lockhart,
so
ian
commenced
in
1980
at
the
gold
coast
city
council.
As
a
clerk
undertaking
general
administration
roles,
he
soon
developed
a
liking
to
the
street,
light
lighting
portfolio
and
took
particularly
interesting
science
of
lighting
and
soon
started
studying
part-time
for
tertiary
qualification.
The
discipline,
the
refinement
of
led
lighting
has
provided
ian
with
an
exciting
new
tool
to
advance
to
enhance
the
lit
environment
in
the
years
ahead
in
lockhart.
K
Next
is
peter
stickland
from
lifestyle
community,
so
peter
began
with
gold
coast
city
council,
as
a
health
inspector
in
1981,
and
he's
been
the
mainstay
of
the
city's
environmental
health
section
for
40
years
and
and
also
a
pillar
of
the
burley
service
surfing
community
council.
K
Young
would
well
know
peter,
is
passionate
about
his
work
and
has
spent
countless
hours
protecting
the
health
and
environment
of
the
city,
whether
it's
inspecting
local
restaurants,
to
ensure
they're,
clean
and
safe
for
selling
food
inspecting
illegal
gluten,
et
cetera
materials
peter
has
developed,
were
regularly
adopted
by
other
local
governments
across
queensland.
He's
also
influenced
strategic
direction
of
the
state
government
taking
on
environmental
health
issues,
peter
stickling.
K
The
last
of
the
40-year
group
is
mark
whibley
from
transport
infrastructure,
so
mark
commenced
as
a
16
year
old
with
gold
coast
city
council
and
was
placed
in
special
projects
based
at
miami
depot.
K
K
Hydrants,
fortunately,
mark
was
involved
in
a
a
work
incident
17
years
ago
and
then
moved
on
to
the
light
duties
at
evandale
site
for
the
last
15
years.
He
did
some
time
at
broadway
parklands
before
traditionally
transitioning
back
to
the
new
hottest
site.
Where
he's
currently
working
mark
whibley.
K
We've
got
charles
waters,
a
maintenance
worker
with
transport
and
infrastructure,
evelyn
zaharias
who's,
the
project,
support
officer
with
safety,
camera
network
in
lifestyle
community,
so
they'll
be
presenting
their
awards
as
part
of
the
directorate
events.
But
I
guess
you'd
call
it
that
the
big
one
misdemeanor
is
the
50-year
presentation
gary
willman,
so
gary
started
in
march
1971
on
a
curb
and
channel
crew.
K
The
old
bean
league
depot
at
for
albertshire
before
started
driving
the
an
eight-ton
tip-up
truck
in
august
74
moved
to
driving
semi-trailers
carting
sewage
from
crumman
creek
back
to
benoit.
So
gary
worked
in
the
workshop
from
7am
to
1pm,
then
get
in
the
semi
tanker
and
cart
sewage
until
8
o'clock
at
night
did
that
until
1978.
K
in
1976
he
started
carting
rubbish
out
of
one
of
the
very
first
transfer
stations
operation
on
kingston
road
gary
did
this
every
saturday
and
sunday.
So
this
is
seven
days
a
week
behind
you.
K
A
A
Next
item:
conflict
of
interest-
decoration
just
move
that
motion:
oh
okay,
a
move
that
they
let
me
move
it
first
before
I
thank
you
that
council
formally
expressed
its
appreciation
to
the
employee,
receiving
recognition
of
service
awards,
40
and
50
years
servers
for
their
incredible
dedication
and
service
to
the
city.
Second,
they're,
councillor
gates.
A
E
E
A
That
a
conflict
of
interest,
yep,
we'll
just
wait,
we'll
go
we'll
do
a
decoration
first.
H
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Sorry,
my
apologies
and
it
should
be
up
there
on
the
screen.
E
So,
mr
may,
during
the
transport
committee
meeting
last
tuesday,
we
were,
we
noted
a
report
from
the
gold
coast,
light
rail
stage,
4
update
and
the
palm
beach
local
area
transport
study
and
during
a
quite
lengthy
discussion
following
the
the
report
we
from
especially
from
councillor
o'neill
and
councillor,
daphne
macdonald
from
division,
13
and
14,
noting
that
they
had
some
concerns
from
residents
that
had
been
been
reported
to
our
offices
and
they
were
encouraged
by
councillor
gates
to
ensure
that
those
concerns
were
on
the
record.
E
So
we
I've
put
forward
a
change
recommendation
here.
Both
those
councillors.
A
Councillors,
the
change
the
recommendation
there,
the
motion,
that's
on
the
screen,
that's
been
circulated
right.
I
got
one
so
you've
got
one.
Do
I
have
a
second
on
the
motion?
Cancer
o'neill?
Please
go
ahead.
E
Thanks,
mr
me,
and
both
councillors
were
encouraged
to
meet
with
transport
officers
on
monday
morning
at
8
am
where
they
had
the
opportunity
to
put
their
concerns
forward
so
that
they
could
be
on
record
as
representing
their
community
and
representing
the
community.
The
needs
or
the
concerns
that
their
communities
have
raised
with
them
and
to
ensure
that
the
councillors
concerns
were
passed
on
to
the
appropriate
appropriate
offices.
H
H
And
I
I
just
want
to
with,
with
your
permission,
I
could
put
those
questions
to
the
counselor.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor.
Through
you,
mr
mayor
to
councillor
young,
I'm
sure
we
are
all
aware
of
the
intense
media
interest
regarding
the
burley
headland
and
the
claims
that
some
indigenous
leaders
have
made
around
protecting
culturally
significant
sites
as
the
light
rail
project
unfolds.
H
Cultural
issues
and
native
title
was
an
issue
for
us
as
a
council
or
most
appropriately
handled
by
the
state
government,
as
the
lead
agency,
and
the
advice
to
us
at
committee
was
that
this
is
best
left
to
the
state
government
to
manage
issues
of
nato
native
title.
For
example,
I,
from
what
I
understand
can
be
rather
legalistic
right
and
can
involve
a
year's
long
examination
before
we
actually
get
to
a
particular
outcome.
H
The
preamble
is
to
inform
this
question
through
you,
mr
mayor
to
councillor
young.
Is
it
quite
necessary
for
us
to
insert
part
2
c
iv
as
a
local
government?
Is
that
necessary
at
this
juncture,
or
aren't
we
best
to
heed
the
advice
of
the
director
and
allow
the
state
government
to
make
that
assessment
and
not
interfere
in
the
state
government's
assessment
or
plans?
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
E
Thank
you,
mr
may,
and
in
in
response
to
councillor
vorster's
a
point
there.
These
suggestions
were
put
forward
by
both
councillor
o'neal
and
council
macdonald
and
went
back
through
the
director
to
ensure
that
he
was
comfortable
with
those
being
put
forward,
but
I'm
more
more
than
happy.
If
there
is
some
some
change
on
the
floor
for
that
to
be
changed,.
A
Okay,
well,
it
can
be
a
proceed.
It
can
be
a
amended
motion
to
have
that
amended
council
gates.
L
L
There
was
quite
lengthy
discussion,
as
has
already
been
mentioned,
and
councillors
macdonald
and
o'neal
expressed
a
number
of
concerns,
and
it
was
my
point
that
those
concerns
should
be
identified
in
the
recommendation
so
that
they
are
noted
and
carried
forward.
I
it
was
not
my
suggestion
that
council
seeks
the
refinement
at
this
point
in
time.
It
was
only
my
suggestion
that
the
concerns
that
that
the
council
is
involved
met
with
the
officers
and
put
forward
their
concerns
so
that
they
could
be
documented
for
future
discussions.
L
So
the
wording
of
this
is
a
lot
stronger
than
I
had
personally
anticipated
when
I
suggested
that
their
concerns
be
documented.
I
would
have
preferred
to
see
something
that
said
that
the
following
concerns
be
raised
in
future
considerations
in
relation
to
light
rail
stage.
Four,
it
was
simply
to
make
sure
that
in
this
early
stage,
the
concerns
of
the
relevant
councillors
were
tabled
and
given
appropriate
consideration,
respecting
the
fact
that
it's
not
our
project,
that
it's
being
funded
primarily
by
the
state
and
the
federal
government.
L
I'm
happy
to
move
an
amendment,
mr
mayor,
that
says
that
council
provide
further
advocacy
to
the
department
of
transport
and
main
roads
as
part
of
the
engagement
process
as
follows,
and
then
we
could
just
delete
in
a
be
refined
seeking
that
and
we
could
say
that
consideration
be
given
to
the
following
matters
and
then
list
them,
and
I
agree
with
council
of
worcester
that
the
indigenous
heritage
sites
are
not
councils
domain
and
should
not
form
part
of
this
resolution.
I
would
be
deleting
c
point
four.
L
And
it
just
needs
to
be
reworded
slightly.
Let
me
can
I
just
have
a
thorough
read
of
it,
mr
mayor,
before
we
put
it
to
that's
fine.
I
A
I've
asked
acting
director
just
to
refine
it
to
help
help
it
along.
I
think,
to
raise
the
concern,
is,
is
fair
but
to
to
refine
and
ensure,
I
think,
that's
out
outside
our
brief.
A
A
Before
you
do
I'll
call
secondary
council
owen
jones,
there
you
go.
L
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
in
speaking
to
it
at
committee,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
it
was
the
recommendation
was
just
to
note
the
report.
The
divisional
councillors
from
13
and
14
had
significant
questions
for
the
officers
and
it
was
simply
my
suggestion
that
they
meet
with
the
officers
to
document
their
concerns
so
that
the
officers
could
take
them
forward
in
any
future
advocacy.
Regarding
stage
four
now
I
and
many
of
us
don't
have
the
knowledge
of
the
area
that
the
divisional
counsellors
do,
and
we
all
respect
that.
L
Logically
council
would
make
a
decision
if
the
opportunity
arose
about
whether
we
actually
endorse
the
positions
that
have
been
suggested
by
councillor
mcdonald
and
councillor
o'neill.
But
at
this
stage
we
don't
have
sufficient
information
about
the
things
that
have
been
raised
to
actually
say
or
confirm
that
the
highway
corridor
be
refined,
and
that
was
the
wording
of
the
motion
that
councillor
young
has
moved
this
morning.
L
So
my
revised
motion
still
lists
all
of
the
matters
that
have
been
raised,
except
for
the
one
that
is
specifically
in
the
domain
of
the
state
which
relates
to
the
protection
of
indigenous
heritage
sites
along
the
corridor.
Everything
else
still
remains
here,
but
in
a
manner
which
our
officers
can
take
forward
to
discuss
with
the
people
who
are
steering
the
project
yeah.
A
I
just
add
to
that
councillors
that
it's
good
to
note
it,
but
it's
state
government,
it's
not
our
remit.
It's
a
state
government
project.
We
can
put
a
concern
out
there
and
they
can
take
on
our
concerns,
but
whether
they
refine
the
refinement,
it's
really
up
to
them,
to
refine
and
for
us
to
two
things:
one
to
try
to
push
the
refinement
in
there.
A
It
might
just
work
in
reverse
on
on
advocacy
because
they
feel
like
it's,
their
they've
got
carriage
of
this
and
I
think
softly
softly
you
get
more
out
of
it
at
the
state
level.
You
know
instead
of
smashing
it
down
so
I'll,
go
back
to
councillor
pauline
yang
to
close,
oh,
you
want
to
be
against
councillor
neil.
D
Thanks,
mr
mayor
and
and
I
thank
councillor
gates
for
what
she
did
at
committee,
because
I
think
that
we
needed
to
do
more
than
just
note
the
report
I'm
actually
happy
with
the
recommended
wording
by
and
council
officers
actually
provided
some
of
that
wording
for
us
and
we
met
and
we
went
over
some
of
the
issues.
D
What
dtmr
have
put
out
now
is
concept
plans
only
and
they
went
out
to
consultation,
and
I
went
to
a
lot
of
those
consultation
sessions.
I
got
sent
a
lot
of
submissions
from
community
groups
and
residents
within
division,
14
outlaying.
What
they
saw
was
the
wrong
way
to
go
virtually.
I
think,
now's
the
time
to
actually
put
this
forward
as
a
refinement.
I
really
do
and-
and
certainly
the
officers
do
as
well,
because
that
was
their
word
refined.
D
So
they
must
believe
that,
with
the
concept
plans
being
out
there,
now
we've
got
an
opportunity
to
fine-tune
or
refine
the
the
actual
route,
not
the
alignment
of
the
route.
I
I
I'm
okay.
As
far
as
the
indigenous
sites
go,
that
can
either
be
in
or
out
it
is
up
to
the
state
government,
but
we're
just
talking
about
heritage
sites
rather
than
here.
You
know,
native
plan,
title
plum,
title
native
titles
claims.
D
But
honestly
I
really.
I
really
believe
this
is
our
a
really
good
chance
to
let
dtmr
know
that
we
that
the
concerns
of
both
division,
13
and
14
residents
and
the
divisional
councillors-
these
are
the
one
of
some
of
the
main
issues.
There's
a
lot
of
detail
that
has
to
come
on
top
of
these.
These
concept
plans,
and
I
know
that
our
officers
will
work
with
dtmr
to
refine
those
as
well,
but
I
think,
with
the
overall
alignment
we've
got
it.
We've
got
to
run
with
this
this
wording.
A
Okay
for
the
motion
I'll
go
to
counseling
jones.
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
I
think
that
it
was
important
that
we
actually
got
the
bullet
points
down,
and
I
appreciate
that
that's
come
from
the
two
divisional
councillors,
most
impacted,
the
one
that
I
I'm
particularly
interested
in
is
that
the
location
of
the
light
rail
corridor
to
tugan
and
whether
or
not
it
should
be
on
the
eastern
side,
this
the
median
or
the
western
side.
J
I
think,
fundamentally,
what
the
state
has
to
do
is
explain
to
the
residents
that
the
reason
their
rationale
behind
their
proposed
location
on
the
eastern
side,
which
I
think
from
when
we
attended,
I
attended
one
of
the
sessions
down
at
chug
and
I
think
that
the
underlying
rationale
behind
that
was
about
safety.
So
the
idea
of
potentially
pushing
it
to
the
median
because
of
the
perception
that
that
might
be
taking
it
further
away
from
residential
catchment
may
be
in
conflict
with
the
idea
of
safety.
J
So
I
think
it's
up
to
tmr
to
advocate
that,
and
likewise
potentially
one
of
the
reasons
why
they
want
it
near
the
east
is
that's
closer
to
the
walkable
neighborhood
that
already
exists
in
that
area.
So
to
me,
it
definitely
needs
to
be
listed
as
an
item
of
concern
and
for
refinement,
but
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
all
of
the
facts
as
to
why
it's
proposed
and
for
mine.
D
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Yes
I'll,
be
speaking
against
the
the
changed
recommendation.
D
These
are
issue
it's
early
days
yet,
and
these
are
issues
that
have
been
raised
with
us
by
the
community
and,
as
you
mentioned,
mr
bear
mayor,
you
know
there
are
community
concerns,
so
councillor
o'neill
and
myself
as
divisional
councillors,
are
raising
these
issues,
and
I
can
recall
one
of
the
meetings
that
we
had
with
dtmr.
D
They
told
us
that
I
suppose
you've
read
the
government's
decision
in
the
paper.
You
know
that.
That's
how
we'll
to
get
our
information
so
we're
going
to
be
on
the
front
foot
and
raise
the
issues
that
have
been
raised
with
us
by
the
community
and
give
those
issues
to
the
state
and
and
if
they
can't
proceed
with
any
of
those
issues
that
have
been
raised.
D
Well,
perhaps
it's
the
opportunity
to
come
back,
speak
to
the
officers
and
come
back
and
say
why
not
I
I
do
feel
that
to
have
all
those
issues
noted
is
very
important
to
the
community
down
there
and,
as
you
know,
there
have
been
a
lot
of
issues
that
have
been
raised.
So
that's
why
I
won't
be
supporting
the
amendment.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor.
As
councillor
or
councillors,
o'neill
and
mcdonald
have
said,
the
community
has
an
intense
interest
in
the
way
that
this
project
makes
its
way
down
to
the
southernmost
reaches
of
our
city,
and
why
shouldn't
they?
Because
the
light
rail
will
have
an
impact
on
the
character
and
feel
of
their
neighborhoods,
and
I
think
we
all
have
an
interest
in
making
sure
that
the
light
rail
is
as
sympathetic
as
possible
to
the
aspirations
each
community
down
its
line
might
have
for
their
own
neighborhood.
H
We
did
some
heavy
lifting
in
terms
of
finessing
our
own
submission
to
the
state
government
as
part
of
this
process,
which
called
for
things
like
the
visual
amenity
and
footprint
of
the
stations
to
be
changed
to
ensure
that
there
are
good
safety
measures
and
crime
prevention
measures
incorporated
in
the
design
to
ensure
that
we
are
maximizing
the
on-street
car
parking
available
on
side
streets.
We've
done
all
that
work.
H
What
I
don't
want
to
leave
the
community
with
is
the
suggestion
that
we're
only
going
halfway
to
addressing
their
concerns,
because
we've
actually
done
this
once
before
in
their
entirety.
They
shouldn't
feel
as
though
they're
missing
out,
if
the
original
recommendation
does
not
get
up,
because
we've
actually
already
done
this.
H
H
If
the
state
government
provides
a
response
to
our
submission,
perhaps
that's
something
that
can
be
provided
to
the
mayor
or
the
subject
of
a
report.
I
certainly
can't
provide
you
a
direction,
but
I
think
that'd
be
useful
for
the
community
to
understand
that
we've
actually
been
on
their
side
right
from
the
get-go
yeah.
A
Oh,
mr
ceo,
take
that
as
a
direction.
Okay,
speaking
against
emotion,
cancer,
patterson.
F
Clarity
on
it,
so
through
you,
mr
mayor
to
the
two
local
councillors,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
with
the
new
c3:
are
you
aligned
with
that
change.
F
E
Just
in
closing,
it
was
during
the
the
committee
meeting.
Both
councillors
were
were
very,
very
passionate,
understandably
so
about
these
issues
that
that
are
actually
being
brought
forward
today,
and
I
think
for
the
original
recommendation
that
they
felt
that
it
it
contained
a
stronger
message
to
the
state
government,
but
in
in
going
through
the
the
the
changed
recommendation
there
that
the
council
of
gates
has
put
forward.
E
It
addresses
the
issues
that
both
councillors
have
made
and
whilst
they
may
not
feel
it's
as
strong,
I
think
it's
still
delivering
those
messages
and
on
council
of
worsters
in
support
of
what
he's
saying
for
the
officers
to
bring
back
a
report
to
us.
Once
we've
heard
something
back
from
the
state
government,
but
also
to
be
along
the
lines.
A
A
L
Simply
to
say,
mr
mayor,
that
none
of
the
issues
raised
by
councillors,
o'neill
or
mcdonald,
have
been
admitted
from
this
resolution.
All
of
the
points
that
they
raised
other
than
the
heritage
situation
has
been
covered
off.
I
think
councilor
o'neil
expressed.
L
But
we
by
no
means
should
be
taking
absolute
control
to
the
point
of
seeking
the
refinement,
in
my
view,
of
any
of
the
recommendations
that
have
been
put
forward
on
the
basis
of
what
we
have
before
us
at
this
point
in
time,.
D
Again,
I
won't
be
supporting
this
resolution
with
the
removal
of
the
concerns
in
regards
to
the
burley
ridge
in
burleigh
headland.
It's
not
only
it's
not
about
native
title.
It's
about
protecting
an
area.
L
D
About
the
protection
of
the
indigenous
heritage
sites
along
the
corridor,
well,.
A
D
Well
with
that,
with
the
protection
of
the
area,
those
issues
have
been
raised
by
not
only
our
indigenous
section
of
the
community
but
all
of
the
community.
It's
very
very
important,
especially
with
talabadria
creek.
As
we
know,
a
lot
of
the
photos
that
are
taken
of
this
city
are
at
talabadro
creek.
Now
this
area
is
very
important
to
not
only
the
local
community
down
there,
but
also
the
community
of
the
gold
coast,
and
I
won't
be
supporting
this
resolution
with
the
removal
of
that.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
man.
I
think
you
may
know
my
views
already
on
this
motion,
but
in
speaking
for
it,
I
I
just
wanted
to
be
at
pains
to
make
it
clear
that
no
city
councillor,
maybe
I'm
on
shaky
territory.
H
Speaking
on
behalf
of
us
all,
but
no
city
council
wants
to
see
our
natural
and
cultural
assets
degraded
in
any
way,
and
I
think,
particularly
during
the
commonwealth
games,
we
all
developed
a
deeper
appreciation
for
language
and
the
connection
that
the
kumberi
people
of
the
human
being
language
group
have
to
what
we
now
call
the
gold
coast.
We
all
appreciate
it.
H
We
all
value
it,
but
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
to
entangle
issues
around
cultural
assets
and
cultural
appreciation
with
a
transport
infrastructure
project
if
they
do
not
need
to
be
entangled
by
local
government.
The
advice
we've
been
provided
is
that
this
is
a
an
interaction
that
is
best
managed
by
the
state
government
and
removing
reference
to
indigenous
claims
from
the
resolution.
H
What
it
actually
does
is
it
allows
council
to
step
out
of
the
process
so
that
those
with
two
opposing
views
can
prosecute
their
case
without
wasting
time
and
resources
and
without
the
distraction
of
us
weighing
in
and
again
that's
for
the
state
government
to
manage
and
just
to
clarify
a
point.
The
gold
coast
bulletin
did
run
an
article
very
recently
concerning
the
headland
known
as
jerigil,
and
the
headline,
at
least
in
the
online
version
that
reads:
burley
native
title
claim:
threatens
gold
coast,
light
rail
to
airport.
H
So
I
suppose
in
us
removing
ourselves
from
this
process.
Any
claim
can
be
made
without
our
interference
and
can
be
resolved
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
the
coast
has
certainty.
I
want
to
offer
that
to
the
whole
community
and
that's
why
I
support
this
form
of
words
and
not
what
was
originally
proposed.
Council.
L
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
I
had
removed
that
purely
on
the
basis
of
councillor
vorster's
contribution
today
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Mr
mayor,
I
don't
have
any
personal
problem
with
it,
whether
it's
in
or
whether
it's
out.
I
think
that
the
fact
is
that
if
we
have
simply
noted
the
report,
which
was
the
recommendation
to
the
committee,
we
wouldn't
have
any
of
this
documented
for
the
officers
to
take
forward.
L
As
a
result
of
my
suggesting
this
course
of
action,
we
now
have
reinforced
what
was
in
our
submission
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
E
A
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
man.
I
can't
help
but
feel
that
we
were
speaking
about
lifestyle
and
community.
Just
then,
mr
mayor,
I'd
like
to
move
that
the
report
of
the
lifestyle
and
committee
meeting
held
on
tuesday
the
5th
of
october
2021,
covered
by
recommendations,
one
through
five
be
received.
Thank
you
all.
A
Right
secondary
counselor,
baldon
blunsden,
put
the
motion
to
you.
Oh
and
fascia.
Hands
against
motion
carry
any
items
you
wish
to
deal
separately.
B
Thank
you
through
to
the
director
just
wondering
what
kind
of
engagement
might
have
been
undertaken
with
the
community
in
regards
to
preparation
of
this
report
or
as
a
background,
please,
director.
F
Mr
mayor,
so
there's
extensive
communication
with
our
environmental
groups
on.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
man.
Mr
may,
if
I
could
add
the
this
body
of
work,
followed
a
council
supporting
a
general
business
item
through
the
lifestyle
and
community
committee,
and
it
had
a
very
narrow
scope
which
asked
city
officers
to
deal
with
the
public
health
unit,
for
example,
and
residents
and
representatives
from
affected
catchments.
H
So
city
offices,
I
don't
want
to
say
that
they
were
fettered,
but
they
were
certainly
given
clear
direction
around
who
they
should
be
dealing
with
in
preparation
of
this
tactical
update-
and
I
might
just
flag,
mr
mayor,
that
the
statement
of
management
intent
allows
city
officers
under
delegation
effectively
to
come
up
with
localized
management
plans
on
a
yearly
cycle.
So
if
there
are
issues
that
crop
up
in
our
neighborhoods
there's
every
opportunity
for
consultation
on
roost,
specific
matters,
smart,
okay,.
H
Well,
singers:
we've
had
oh,
I
don't
want
to
say
some
debate,
but
I'm
happy
to
move
6.3.
No,
I
mean.
A
A
H
Item
7.2,
if
I
could
just
to
move
a
slight
change
recommendation.
Mr
mayor,
we're.
H
Go
ahead.
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
man.
I'd
like
to
move
a
a
new
three,
so
it's
an
addendum
to
the
committee
recommendation,
so
one
or
two
will
remain
the
same
new
three
coming
in.
Thank
you,
mr
man.
The
new
three
simply
reads
that
city
offices.
A
Okay,
second
council
o'neil
and
speak
on
that
yeah.
H
H
That
organization,
unfortunately,
is
reconsidering
its
operating
model
and
it
may
have
a
different
future
than
the
one
it
began
with.
Nonetheless,
it's
presently
operating
a
social
media
presence
as
the
sustainable
school
network,
so
they
may
have
plans
for
a
future
relying
on
the
the
equity
that
they
have
in
that
brand
already.
H
The
point
of
part
three
is
to
simply
clarify
that
the
sustainable
schools
program
is
an
internal
name
for
the
good
work
that
city
officers
hope
to
carry
out
partnership
with
eco
marines
and
that
it's
probably
prudent
to
develop
a
brand
around
that
program
that
doesn't
detract
from
the
the
good
will.
That's
already
been
created
in
this
market
by
others,
mr
smith,.
G
I
think
council
boston
has
been
very
prudent,
mr
mary,
in
this,
and,
if
you
wouldn't
mind
me
speaking
to
it,
I'm
somewhat
familiar
with
the
sustainable
schools
network
program,
because
some
of
the
the
co-founders
of
that
are
somerset
college
families.
And
I
was-
I
received
some
advice
not
that
long
ago
confirming
what
council
of
bolster
has
disclosed
in
that
some
of
that
network
governance
is
changing,
they're,
not
sure
exactly
the
programs
that
they
will
deliver.
G
The
conference
that
has
been
held
engaging
with
schools
won't
occur
at
this
stage
into
the
future
and
it's
entirely
appropriate
for
us
to
make
sure
we
partner,
without
necessarily
using
a
such
a
similar
phrase.
But
I
would
recommend
officers
get
in
touch
with
the
team
who
were
involved
in
that
program
and
make
sure
that
whoever
they're
working
with
at
eco
marines
is
familiar
with
some
of
that
good
body
of
work.
G
One
of
the
most
profound
outcomes
was
that
the
the
water
and
waste
team
from
council
were
able
to
attend
that
network
event
and
connect
with
a
number
of
school
leaders
that
enabled
us
to
lower
water
wastage
across
broadly
across
our
city,
in
in
multiple
education,
queensland
and
private
school
locations.
So
there's
already
been
some
really
good
outcomes
achieved,
and
it
would
be
great
to
leverage
some
of
those
for
the
program
we
intend
to
embark
upon.
Okay.
A
A
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
mr
mayor
move
that
the
report
of
the
economy,
tourism
and
events
committee
meeting
held
on
wednesday,
the
6th
of
october,
covered
by
recommendations
one
to
six
be
received.
A
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
apologies.
I
don't
have
the
number
in
front
of
me
right
now,
but
6.2
regarding
I've
got
a
conflict
of
interest
and
would
leave
the
room.
Okay.
Thank
you.
A
Any
other
decoration
on
6.2.
L
I
was
just
prepared
to
move
it.
Mr.
L
A
Recommendations
on
the
screen
right-
that
is,
the
recommendations
on
the
screen
secondary
council
taser.
You
want
to
speak
further.
L
Yeah,
mr
mayor,
because
I
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
the
gold
coast
academy
of
sport
does
a
great
job
for
grassroots
development
of
sport
in
our
city
and
at
the
at
this
point
in
time.
Sorry,
in
advance
of
preparing
for
brisbane
2032
that
we
will
co-host
here
on
the
gold
coast,
using
your
words,
mr
mayor.
L
It's
a
great
time
to
support
grassroots
sports
so
that
our
young
people
can
develop
in
time
for
those
games
so
really
pleased.
This
is
a
slight
reduction
in
the
funding
that
we've
previously
given,
but
with
the
thought
that
the
gold
coast
academy
of
sport
can
also
seek
some
commercial
sponsorships
to
supplement
this
funding,
which
we're
really
pleased
and
proud
to
continue
with.
A
G
Listen
to
come
back
just
the
auto
text
being
used
in
the
minute
taking
for
this
committee
has
a
spelling
area.
The
word
confidentiality
is
built
incorrectly
in
all
of
the
times
where
that
auto
text
is
used,
it's
very
minor,
but
I
just
noticed
it
could.
A
You
please
rectify
that.
G
A
10.4,
okay,
well,
counselors.
We
did
a
procedural
motion
and
we'll
deal
with
the
merrell
minute.
Now.
Basically,
4.1
is
the
appointment
of
destination
gold
coast
board.
A
It's
only
appropriate
that
we
did
disappointment
after
7.3
destination
gold
coast
funding
agreement.
So
is
everyone
got
the
the
mayoral
minute.
A
4.2,
okay,
all
right,
I
had
an
email
back
from
council
tower,
saying,
there's
a
great
appointment.
You
want
to
add
to
that
about
alfred
slogove.
G
No,
my
views
to
you
were
that
I
thought
it
was
entirely
appropriate
for
us
to
have
someone
involved
in
the
education
sector,
a
leader
in
the
education
sector,
talking
about
our
destination
gold
coast,
our
tourism
market
place.
So
thank
you.
Okay,.
A
And
and
the
second
second
appointment
there
we'll
wait
for
the.
I
think
nick
scott's
still
got
another
12
months
to
go
so
we'll
have
discussion
on
the
next
appointment
at
a
later
date.
So
counselors,
that's
on
the
screen.
There.
I
put
the
motion
to
you
or
in
fact
show
hands
against
carry
unanimous.
A
A
There's
beach
club
trial,
let's
have
a
look
what's
on
the
screen?
Okay,
it's
different
again
recommendation.
H
H
A
H
Mr
mayor,
you
may
recall
that
only
a
few
rounds
ago,
council
in
responding
to
an
unsolicited
commercial
proposal
resolved
to
support
skydiving
at
the
spit
that
discussion.
I
think,
really
gave
me
some
comfort
that,
with
the
correct
regulatory
mindset,
we
can
facilitate
a
good
trial
that
minimizes
risk
and
furnishes
us
with
more
information
that
we
may
need
to
potentially
leave
well
enough
alone
or
embark
on
a
change
of
policy.
H
Hopefully,
when
the
nation
opens,
it
will
give
us,
in
my
view,
an
opportunity
to
see
not
only
what
the
level
of
local
support
is
for
a
beach
club,
but
importantly,
whether
visitors
to
the
city
relish
the
opportunity
to
have
a
sneaky
bevy
or
do
some
tai
chi
in
a
picturesque
setting
very
much
on
the
sand
itself.
Now,
mr
mayor,
I
it's
not
lost
on
me
that
perhaps
some
of
our
colleagues
may
not
be
persuaded
to
support
this
again.
H
I
don't
know
what
what
each
of
us
are
thinking
as
we
gathered
around
this
table,
but
I
did
want
to
reflect
on
the
very
sizeable
investment
that
we
made
as
a
council
in
the
lead
up
to
the
commonwealth
games
to
establish
the
karawa
terrace
at
prattan
park.
Now,
I'm
not
sure
whether
the
quantum
of
that
spend
is
a
matter
of
public
knowledge
or
not.
H
That
in
mind,
I
don't
think
it
should
be
unexpected
to
anyone
in
the
community
or
anyone
in
the
chamber
here
that
we
would
seek
to
activate
that
asset.
We've
spent
money
on
it's
in
fact,
in
my
view,
sat
vacant
for
far
too
long
supporting
this
trial.
Mr
mayor,
not
only
will
give
us
an
opportunity
to
create
some
marketing
buzz
around
the
gold
coast.
H
H
So
we've
spent
a
lot
of
money
producing
an
asset
to
attract
events
in
order
to
activate
the
beach
and
we've
crowned
about
it.
It's
featured
on
our
marketing
collateral,
but
there
has
been
nothing.
That's
brought
that
to
fruition,
and
your
motion
brings
that
to
fruition.
I
just
want
to
add
that
even
on
council's
own
website,
mr
matt
says
here
the
unique
location
this
is
of
the
carrot.
Terrace
enables
boutique
functions
and
events
to
expand
directly
onto
the
beach,
providing
a
quintessential
toes
in
the
sand
experience.
H
So,
mr
mayor,
I
just
want
to
make
the
point
that
if
there
are
any
colleagues
who
are
a
little
bit
hesitant
around
the
city
taking
the
step
of
supporting
a
tourism
product
and
an
event
or
a
commercial
business
in
a
park
and
potentially
onto
the
beach
if
anyone's
hesitant,
we
should
actually
reflect
on
the
fact
that
we've
made
an
investment
to
support
precisely
that
kind
of
activation.
And
what
we're
merely
doing
today
is
to
resolve
to
create
the
mechanism
and
the
opportunity
for
that
to
unfold.
H
Mr
mayor,
it
shouldn't
come
as
a
surprise
to
anyone
working
together.
I
think
it's
worth
noting
that
the
community
can
take
comfort
that,
although
there
would
potentially
be
a
commercial
operator
in
the
space
having
a
go
producing
some
economic
social
benefits,
we
are
protecting
the
rate
pay
interest
because
in
five
part
five
we
explicitly
say
that
any
waiver
of
fees
associated
with
the
beach
club
will
exclude
any
bond
in
kind
or
make
good
costs.
H
At
the
end
of
this
trial,
the
park
will
be
left
as
it
was
found
and
the
rate
payer
and
community
interest
will
be
served.
Mr
mayor
part,
6a
adds
as
well
that
the
preferred
applicant
be
required
to
lodge
a
satisfactory
safety
management
plan
as
a
condition
of
approval,
and
this
is
so
important,
mr
mayor,
because
other
operators
in
that
safe
night
precinct
they've
to
adhere
to
standards
that
protect
amenity
and
safety
and
if
there
is
to
be
a
similar
style
of
activation
on
the
beach.
H
This
proponent
has
to
meet
the
same
same
standards
and
therefore
we'll
have
a
even
playing
field
between
operators
within
that
precinct
at
large.
It
also
ensures
that
everybody
will
get
to
enjoy
the
experience
of
carrowa
park
and
broad
beach
generally
without
any
detractions
from
what
they
might
expect
and
I've
spoken
at
length.
But
I
know
that
this
is
a
unique
thing.
H
A
Add
add
to
that
councillors.
The
mentioned
asset
was
built
for
gold
coast
festival
2018,
which
is
the
week
before
the
commonwealth
game
itself
and
then
the
commonwealth
games
and
then
the
week
after
the
commonwealth
game.
So
it
was
utilized
during
the
commonwealth
games
and
and
it's
so
as
far
as
infrastructure
is
concerned,
it
is
there
to
be
utilized
and-
and
it's
a
legacy
feature
I'll
just
go
see.
If
there's
a
against
emotion,
then
councillor.
J
Jones
well,
mr
mayor,
I
don't
want
to
vote
against
it,
but
I
am
interested
in
hearing
the
local
divisional
counsellor's
views,
because
I
know
that
in
six
it
talks
that
the
acting
chief
executive
officer
being
delegated
the
authority-
and
I
don't
know
whether
or
not
there
would
be
an
advantage
if
he
was
to
do
that
in
consultation
with
the
divisional
counsellor
and
yourself,
I'm
happy
to
speak
for
the
motion,
but
I'm
actually
really
interested
in
counsellor.
Taylor's
views.
A
So
acting
ceo,
would
you
work
with
us
and
the
division?
Ten
councillor
consultations?
A
Yes,
all
right!
So
speaking
against
first
before
I
come
because
I'm
assuming
you're
are
you
four
so
against
council
peter
young
question.
B
B
If
I
may,
in
the
actual
minute
where
we
said
some
of
the
activities
which
we
actually
held
there,
which
is
a
licensed
bar
and
kitchen
on-site,
drink
and
food
service,
we've
got
here,
live
music
and
entertainment,
subject
of
reasonable
closing
hours
and
public
amenity,
we've
got
free,
ticketed,
community
events
and
experiences
that
may
want
to
provide
there
like
yoga
or
pilates,
or
something
along
those
lines
prior
to
those
times.
Family
friendly
activities-
and
that
may
be
sort
of
you
know,
face
painting
those
sort
of
things
that
go
along
with
those
sort
of
activities.
B
Low
impact
exercise,
wellbeing
which
we
just
discussed,
public
art
and
other
cultural
experiences
may
fit
in.
They
may
have
some
of
those
cultural
aspects,
so
we're
sort
of
broadening
it.
So
we
can
capture
a
line
of
different
activities
that
I
just
want
to
have
the
event
beach
equipment,
such
as
cabanas,
sun,
lounges,
day
beds
and
beach,
umbrellas,
which
you'd
normally
expect
on
those
sort
of
sort
of
functions
or
outdoor
areas
that
we're
looking
at
okay.
A
Let
me
perhaps
broaden
it
a
little
bit
during
one
of
the
bleached
that
we
used
to
have.
We
had
beach
at
burley.
A
And
it's
that's
the
sort
of
activities
that
that
I
was
envisaging
it's
it's
just
that
on
a
on
a
scale,
where's
more
better
infrastructure
than
setting
it
up
and
pulling
it
down
and
in
in
here
the
the
facility
trial
periods
from
one
december
to
the
31st
of
january.
So
so,
basically,
it's
60
days
of
the
trial.
A
So
it's
longer
than
the
week
we
had
it
at
burley
and
really
that's
the
essence
of
the
trial
period
and
and
if
it
works
well,
we
can
look
at
it
further
if
it
doesn't
work,
we
trialed
it
and
whether
people
like
people
don't
like
it,
we
kill
it
off.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
B
Thank
you
miss
me,
it
does
I
apologize.
There
was
a
memo
sent
to
us
yesterday
and
I
haven't
studied
that.
That's
all
right.
I
was
aware
of
the
motion
coming
forward,
and
so
my
second
question
is:
what
are
the
extents?
I
know
there
was
some
kind
of
map
provided,
but
on
the
hard
copy
I've
just
seen
it.
A
B
Last
question:
if
I
might
miss
me,
I've
seen
the
map
and
I
appreciate
that
I
can
see
it's
the
extent
of
the
pavilion
and
the
beach
just
directly
in
front
of
it,
for
a
distance
of
about,
I
presume
about
20
meters
yeah.
Thank
you.
So
the
recommendation
or
the
the
motion
includes
an
item
there,
that
this
evaluation
be
undertaken
by
the
transport
directorate,
and
I
just
wondered
why
that
might
be
the
best
fit.
Given
we're
talking
about
open
space,
recreational.
A
C
So
through
you,
mr
mayor,
what
we're
doing
is
building
the
front
end
process
to
get
an
applicant
to
go
through
a
normal
event
application
process.
So
what
transport
infrastructure
will
do
is
put
a
panel
together
of
city
offices
but
we'll
also
have
specialist
advisors
like
city
advance,
environmental
health
offices,
etc.
That
will.
A
Okay,
speaking
against
the
motion
question
for
let's
hear
from
area
counselor
first
and
then
council,
taylor,.
C
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
look
I'm
very
supportive
of
this.
This
trial,
as
council
of
austin,
mentioned
before
it
is
a
trial.
It's
going
to
give
the
opportunity
for
not
only
visitors
when
they
come
to
the
gold
coast
but
actual
locals,
come
and
enjoy
the
experience
of
looking
out
great
beaches
and
our
oceans.
C
We
already
see
that
the
burley
pavilion,
even
the
new
calais,
it's
a
it's
a
type
of
venue
that
people
are
looking
for
at
the
moment.
So
I
think
the
trial
is
going
to
be
a
great
way
to
actually
see
what
people
want
and
what
they
can
actually
get
with
a
with
a
beach
clubhouse,
obviously
we'll
be
following
any
requirements.
If
there's
liquor,
licensing
they're,
managing
the
the
noise
volume
and
we'll
make
sure
the
environmental
issues
are
covered,
but
it's
just
a
really
big
opportunity.
C
A
Speaking
two
months,
it's
been
against
the
motion
for
them
I'll
go
to
council
coldwell.
First.
M
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
I
appreciate
that
there's
not
been
a
lot
of
dissent
on
this
I'll,
be
as
brief
as
I
can,
but
it
I
just
wanted
to
reflect
on
the
fact
that
we
are
hopefully
going
to
to
tread
bravely
where
no
council
has
previously
gone
on.
M
When
it's
available,
I,
when
we
recently
considered
another
tourism-based
business,
I
said
that
we
want
to
be
famous
for
fun,
not
boring
and
dull,
and
it
is
absolutely
critical
that
we
take
these
bold
steps
to
make
sure
that
we
are
providing
a
mixture
of
really
high
quality
tourism
opportunities
here
on
the
gold
coast.
And
so
I
think
the
the
two-month
trial
is
a
very
sensible
first
step
in
that.
If
it
turns
out
to
be
a
disaster,
we
can
ultimately
then
decide
not
to
do
it
again.
M
But
I
really
hope
that
this
will
be
successful
and
we
have
miles
and
miles
of
beach
and
having
seen
these
kind
of
high-end
operations
that
are
well
run
in
other
parts
of
the
world.
I
think
this
is
exactly
the
direction
that
we,
as
a
city
want
to
head.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
everywhere
across
every
beach,
but
done
tastefully
and
in
the
right
locations
planned
and
executed.
Well,
this
will
be
the
sort
of
thing
that
will
be
a
game
changer
for
the
local
economy
here
on
the
gold
coast,
okay,.
A
I
I
I
don't
know
the
conversion
it's
60
kilometers,
so
I'm
not
sure
how.
M
And
fun
fact,
mr
mayor,
if
I
might
be
given
a
moment,
division
four
has
the
most
amount
of
beach
out
of
any
other
council
division
on
the
gold
coast.
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I'd
just
like
to
speak
for
this
mayoral
minute.
E
It's
it's
really
great
to
see
that
we're
actually
going
to
have
a
trial,
that's
not
connected
to
an
actual
event,
so
a
trial
that
can
be
supported
by
locals,
as
well
as
as
visitors
to
the
city,
but
for
the
few
events
that
we've
been
down
there
with
bleach,
where
you've
been
down
there
to
open
and
that
we've
seen
how
well
supported
it
has
been
and
how
I
think
in
the
first
year
when
we
had
the
collectives
van
down,
they're
trialling
the
food
and
and
the
beverage
service
there
on
the
sand
there,
there
was
so
many
people
talking
to
you
about
six
weeks
of
summer
and
couldn't
we
have
that
trial
of
six
weeks
of
summer.
E
So
it's
great
to
see
this
come
forward,
and
so
many
residents
and
visitors
alike
spoke
to
you
during
those
those
bleach
times
in
all
of
the
facilities
that
were
there
at
the
foreshore,
and
it's
also
great
to
see
that
it's
actually
on
part
of
a
foreshore
that
has
all
of
the
connected
infrastructure.
That's
required,
like
public,
toilets
and
showers
and
venues
that
people
can
actually
leave
whenever
they
choose
to
leave,
and
it's
also
well
supported
by
our
our
transport
network
there.
E
So
I
I
think,
having
the
original
trial
or
the
very
first
trial-
and
hopefully
it's
well
received
to
have
it
in
the
area
as
in
at
carol
or
there,
where
everything
is
already
in
place
will
give
us
a
far
better.
I
guess
benchmark
to
measure
back
to
see
counseling.
J
Jones,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I'm
I'm
supportive
of
it,
but
I'm
also
very
interested
in
regards
to
the
information
that
we
get
back
in
regards
to
the
report,
and
I
think
it
would
be
an
opportunity
during
the
60-day
trial
that
we
made
sure
that
we
hoovered
up
as
much
input
from
the
people
that
had
attended
in
addition
to
people
that
may
oppose
the
idea.
When
we've
spoken
about
this
in
the
past,
people
have
suggested
it's
the
thin
edge
of
the
wedge.
I
don't
think
that
that
is
the
case.
J
I
think
that
the
city
has
a
couple
of
very
good
opportunities
and
we're
putting
it
beside
existing
hard
infrastructure,
but
that
may
lend
ourselves
to
looking
at
other
locations.
For
example,
I
know
that
the
sheraton
has
previously
mooted
an
opportunity
down
there.
It's
it
clearly
isn't
going
to
go
everywhere,
but
we've
all
been
and
seen
what
happens
when
the
magic
millions,
for
example,
do
their
pop-up
pavilion
as
part
of
their
barrier
draw.
J
The
city
provides
some
outstanding
backdrops
for
some
really
unique
occasions
and
the
idea
of
activating
a
new
product
for
our
tourism
market,
I
think,
is
at
least
worth
piloting
and
seeing
what
can
go
right
and
potentially,
if
something
goes
wrong.
How
that
could
be
mitigated
in
the
future.
Mr
mayor.
A
A
A
A
The
third
mayoral
minute,
a
move
that
councillors
note
the
commencement
of
development
of
the
gold
coast
city
transport
strategy
2041.,
so
we've
got
to
get
going
all
right.
Anyone
speak
against
that
not
to
commence
it
put
the
motion
to
you
or,
in
fact,
show
hands
against
carry
unanimous.
A
11.5
cam
council
call.
M
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
I
move
that
the
report
of
the
planning
and
environment
committee
meeting
held
on
thursday,
the
7th
of
october
2021,
covered
by
recommendations
one
to
four
be
received.
Second,.
A
A
Okay,
any
any
items
you
want
to
deal
separately,
counselors
cancer.
J
I
might
be
that
lucky,
mr
man,
so
I
moved
the
reported
governance
and
finance
committee
meeting
held
on
thursday
7th
of
october
2021
covered
by
recommendations,
one
to
nine,
be
received.
Second,.
J
Right,
mr
mayor,
if
we
could
deal
with
the
community
grants
report
6.1,
and
I
think
that
there
may
be
at
least
a
conflict
of
interest.
A
We've
got
conflict
of
interest
all
right
here,
we
go,
you
want
to
go
first,
no,
is
it
yeah?
Is
it
what
just
just
pause
to
make
it
quicker?
Is
it
loaded
on
the
computer
yeah
so
who's
the
first
one
on
the
computer.
G
Okay,
thank
you.
I
am.
I
have
a
declarable
confident
interest,
having
received
some
advice
from
the
city
solicitor
and
I'd
like
to
remain
in
the
room
for
this,
given
the
broad
spectrum
of
grants
that
we're
discussing
today,
so
the
nature
of
their
interest
is
that
I
have
a
close
personal
relationship
with
hayden
woodworth,
the
voluntary
chairman
of
juice
media,
limited
he's,
the
chairman
of
a
charity,
for
which
council
is
considering
a
multi-year
agreement,
deliver
a
public
event
being
easter,
united
I'd
like
to
remain
in
the
room.
G
For
those
reasons
I
just
stated,
but
the
times
I
put
in
the
form
were
that
the
significance
of
my
relationship
with
mr
whitworth
is
surpassed
by
the
public
benefit
of
the
proposed
multi-year
project
for
the
community.
Considering
mr
whitworth's
voluntary
role
as
chairman
of
just
media
limited,
which
is
a
charity.
A
Okay,
procedural
motion:
the
question
councillor
gates.
L
G
So,
mrs
mel,
I
sought
the
advice
of
this
his
visitor
about
that,
but
both
my
wife
and
my
former
directorship
did
not
constitute
something
that
was
a
declarable
conflict
which
is.
But
if
I
could
ask
you
or
the
city
solicitor
through
you
to
confirm
that
advice
through.
I
L
I
could
just
explain
why
I'm
asking
that
is,
I
believe,
there's
a
petition
to
be
presented
later
today.
That
involves
the
turf
club,
which
of
course
leads
me
to
my
position
as
a
former
director
and
the
fact
that
I've
always
declared
and
left
the
room.
So
perhaps
the
city
solicitor
can
give
some
thought
to
that
in
the
interim
before
that
petition.
F
A
That
I
I
would
ask
this
part
of
the
mr
ceo.
This
part
of
the
meeting
been
transcribed
because
I
know
the
oaa
is
coming
after
me
about
something
slowly
this
and
I
like
to
send
it
to
him
to
go
drop.
It.
A
J
I
will
I've
got
some
words
the
city
solicitor
has
provided
and
that,
although
council
of
taser
has
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
because
of
his
close
personal
relationship
with
the
voluntary
chairman
of
juice,
the
event,
the
subject
of
the
grant
application
is
open
to
the
whole
of
the
city,
and
there
is
no
suggestion
that
the
chair
will
benefit
personally.
Correct
sounds.
J
So
it's
in
particular
in
regards
to
the
proposal
to
have
a
four-year
funding
program,
which
I
think
the
council
has
previously
discussed
at
our
committee
meeting.
We
did
mention
dollar
amounts
which
were
different
than
the
officer's
recommendation,
but
I
think
it's
appropriate
that
councillor
toes
stay
in
the
room.
A
Okay,
council
patterson.
F
Through
you,
mr
mayor,
I've
got
a
question
to
the
city
solicitor,
so
on
a
recent
matter,
the
advice
that
I
received
was
where
there
is
a
declarable
conflict
due
to
a
close
personal
friend
that
the
it
is
recommended
that
you
just
leave
the
room.
F
I
K
A
Against,
please
recall:
council
toza
did
not
vote
so
you
stay
in
right
pattern.
Second,
decoration,
when
you're
ready
is
that
on
the
computer,
then
we're
ready.
G
Thank
you,
mr
man.
In
this
case,
the
nature
of
the
declarable
complete
interest
is
that
my
wife,
jude
carmen
owns
a
film
production
company
that
has
previously
worked
for
one
of
the
grant
applicants.
Who
is
a
charity,
and
she
may
do
so
again.
Her
company
has
quoted
on
similar
work
to
that
which
is
described
in
the
grant
application
submitted
by
the
charity.
Ptsd
resurrected,
the
name
of
the
related
party
is
jude
kelman
jude
kelman
is
my
spouse.
G
My
wife
and
the
nature
of
the
related
parties
interest
is
that
she's
previously
worked
for
this
charity
and
has
previously
quoted
on
film
production
work
similar
to
what's
required,
or
that
that
is
noted.
The
reasons
why
I
would
like
to
stay
in
the
room
and
participate
because
of
the
broad
spectrum
of
grants
being
considered
today,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
I'm
not
a
director
of
her
company.
I
Through
you,
mr
mayor,
yes,
councillor,
toza
did
seek
my
advice
on
this
one,
and
my
advice
was
that
it
was
advisable
to
make
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
in
relation
to
the
matter.
Okay,
okay,.
L
Mr
mayor,
if
I
march,
I
don't
believe
councillor
toza
should,
on
this
occasion
remain
in
the
room.
I
think
that
this
one's
a
little
bit
murky,
given
that
councillor
toza,
whilst
he's
not
a
director
of
his
wife's
company,
would
stand
to
benefit
from
any
receipts
that
she
may
be
involved
in
through
her
work.
L
A
The
item
b
there
says
council
must
not
participate
in
the
decision
because
of
the.
L
I
Through
you,
mr
mayor,
I
I
think
your
proposed
wording
does
make
sense,
I'm
happy
to
assist
with
wording
if
you
wanted
some
wording
to
support
a
decision
not
to
allow
counselor
toza
to
participate
in
the
meeting.
I
also
have
some
wording
if
council
was
minded
to
vote
the
other
way
as
well.
Yeah.
A
A
G
I've
got
no
problem,
leaving
the
room,
if
that's
what
the
council
determines,
but
there
are
lots
of
grant
applications
that
are
being
considered
today
beyond
just
this
one,
for
which
I've
made
a
declaration
and
I'd
love
to
participate
in
debate
in
relation
to
other
matters
where
this
conflict
doesn't
apply,
and
I
wonder
if
there's
a
way,
I
could
accommodate
councillor
gates,
motion
and
leave
the
room
for
that
matter
without
wanting
to
engage
in
that
matter,
but
also
making
a
contribution
in
relation
to
the
other
community
grants
that
have
been
proposed,
for
which
I
don't
have
a
conflict.
K
You'd
probably
have
to
split
the
you'd
have
to
split
the
recommendation.
Somehow
I
suspect
you
can
always
do
it
bit
messy,
but
that
was
the
case.
A
We'll
test
the
test
the
floor
first,
to
see
whether
or
not
this
emotion
will
get
up,
because
if
it
doesn't
get
up,
you
stay
in
the
room
and
no
consideration
further
yeah
right.
Anyone
speak
against
emotion.
A
Okay,
you
have
to
leave
anyone
else.
Oh
sorry,
against.
Could
you
record
council
toza
did
not
vote
and
I
ask
him
to
leave
the
room
still
on
this
matter.
J
Move
the
recommendation
at
the
committee
and
speak
briefly
to
it
if
I
can
get
a
seconder
secondary
castle
gates.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
If
I
could
start
by
thanking
the
city
officers
who
had
the
onerous
task
of
providing
us
an
agenda
item
where
the
committee
definitely
approached
it
on
a
line-by-line
basis,
and
we
did
that
in
order
to
make
sure
that
we
supported
as
many
of
the
community
groups
in
on
the
gold
coast
as
possible.
J
J
There
was
at
least
one
item
that
was
to
receive
some
additional
information,
and
my
understanding
is
that
the
ceo,
the
mayor's
office,
has
worked
closely
with
that
organisation
to
get
a
different
proposal,
which
was
a
little
bit
broader,
and
so
I'm
I'm
happy
that
that's
happened
overall,
mr
mayor,
there
was
a
enormous
need
in
our
community
and
there
was
only
so
many
dollars
to
go
around,
but
I
think
thanks
to
the
efforts
of
the
council
laws
at
committee
and
also
the
city
offices,
I
think
we've
ended
at
a
pretty
good
place.
J
J
They
had
a
cancellation
in
20
in
2020
and
they
were
able
to
proceed
in
2021.
J
I
think
the
fact
that
we
are
looking
to
lock
in
a
funding
agreement
for
four
years
is
important
for
making
sure
they
can
get
the
best
bang
for
their
buck
in
regards
to
sponsorship
agreements
aside
from
the
city,
so
I
think
all
in
all
we
were,
we
were
both
kind
and
fair.
We
had
a
fairly
sharp
pencil
in
regards
to
the
distribution
of
the
funds.
Mr
mayor.
A
Anyone
before
I
ask
if
anyone
wants
to
be
against
emotion,
does
anyone
want
to
move
an
amended
motion
to
unpack
it
so
that,
with
the
request
from
council
towser
no
amended
motion,
then
we
keep
going
speaking
against
the
motion
no
counselor
jones.
Could
you
please
close.
J
I'll
close
by
saying
that
the
one
item
that
councillor
toza
had
to
leave
the
room
for
because
of
the
decision
of
the
council
was
a
recommendation
where
both
the
city
offices
and
the
committee
agreed
that
it
should
be
fully
funded.
So
it
shows
to
me
the
fact
that
there
was
clearly
a
twist
in
the
legislation
which
requires
councillors
to
make
a
declaration
and
other
councillors
to
make
a
decision,
but
it
also
shows
that
the
councillors
that
remain
in
the
room
are
able
to
get
on
with
it.
So
I
think
it's
a.
J
A
A
Joe's
lunch
area
when
we're
ready,
okay,
all
right,
councillor,
owen
jones,.
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
If
we
could
deal
with
6.7
where
we
moved
to
procedural
motion,
I
have
some
additional
some
changes
to
that
recommendation.
A
Six
point:
seven
I'll
just
pause.
Second
there
I
just
but
council
toes,
I
I
did
ask
if
there
anyone
wanted
to
unpack
it
and
nobody
move
an
amended
motion.
So
we
when
I
but
the
motion-
was
all
unanimous.
Okay,
all
right,
6.7
response
to
petition.
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
councillors,
that
have
been
here
for
a
period
of
time
will
appreciate
that
the
city
has
some
ongoing
issues
with
the
hope,
fallen
canal
or
drainage
reserve
or
whatever.
You
would
like
to
call
it
in
between,
and
one
of
those
has
resulted
in
a
petition
being
provided
to
council
and
an
attached
report.
J
The
petition
called
for
some
relaxation
on
some
invoices
that
had
been
issued
in
globo
and
the
officers
have
provided
some
words
and
I'm
happy
to
read
them
out.
Mrs
may,
there
are
three
separate
body
corporates
that
are
that
are
involved.
It
is
what
I
would
describe
as
a
fairly
unique
set
of
circumstances.
B
J
J
J
Thank
you.
It's
an
amendment
which
would
see
some
of
the
invoices
that
were
issued
and
backdated
written
off.
It's
not
something
that
the
city
does
lightly
or
does
often,
but
I
think
that
it
is
a
equitable
way
of
dealing
with
a
fairly
complex
problem.
Mr
mayor,
yes,.
A
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
moved
the
remaining
recommendations
that
the
governance
and
finance
committee
be
adopted,
secondary.
A
Consideration
notice,
emotion,
mr
ceo,
I
think
that's
nil.
L
Thank
you.
I
know
that
the
thai
food
is
awaiting
mr
mess
I'll
be
very
fast.
I
have
two
questions
on
notice.
The
first
one
relates
to
some
information
that
I've
been
waiting
for
since
the
15th
of
july.
Mr
mayor,
and
it
was
a
question
that
I
asked
during
the
restructure
considerations
at
governance
and
administration,
whereby
I
requested
the
number
of
positions
in
each
directorate
and
the
duties
that
are
being
undertaken
by
the
community
engagement
and
stakeholder
positions.
L
Mr
mayor,
I
have
to
admit
that
the
acting
ceo
came
to
me
and
asked
me
did
I
want
to
formalize
this
request
when
there
had
been
a
little
time
elapsed
and
I
declined
that
opportunity.
But
it's
now
been
several.
L
I
think
five
council
meetings
and
we
haven't
got
the
information,
and
I
know
that
it's
sitting
on
someone
else's
desk,
so
I
would
simply
like
to
formalize
it
today
by
seeking
that
a
report
come
forward
to
the
next
meeting
of
full
council
clarifying
the
number
of
community
engagement
and
stakeholder
positions
across
the
organisation
and
the
roles
that
they're
undertaking.
Okay,.
L
L
The
second
one
and
this
one
it
will
come
as
a
surprise
to
the
director
of
lifestyle
and
community,
because
I
only
had
a
couple
more
approaches
late
yesterday
afternoon
and
I
didn't
get
an
opportunity
to
raise
it
with
her.
But
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks
I've
had
a
detailed
response
from
libraries
branch
about
the
reactivation
in
full
of
our
library
service,
because
there
have
been
delays
in
restarting
several
of
the
programs
in
particular.
L
Interlibrary
loans
are
not
to
be
reinstated
until
the
end
of
the
year,
and
also
suggestions
for
purchase
and
mr
mayor,
it's
covert
related.
I
understand
that
has
been
the
reason
that's
been
given,
but
all
of
the
volunteer
groups
haven't
had
access
to
the
library.
The
adult
literacy
and
digital
literacy
classes
have
not
resumed,
and
the
two
issues
that
I
have
concerned
with
are
the
interlibrary
loans
and
the
suggestions,
and
I
don't
know
why
covert
has
impacted
on
those.
H
H
Question,
thank
you.
Miss
ma
merely
perhaps
to
save
some
officer
time
and
rate
pay
resources.
In
my
capacity
as
chair
of
the
responsible
committee
that
provides
some
oversight
with
the
library
service.
I
can
advise
councillor
gates
that
we
have
a
an
agenda
item
coming
up
at
the
very
next
round
which
deals
with
the
collection
piece
and
she
may
find
the
answer
she's.
Looking
for
in
the
very
next
council
round,
I.
A
I'd
ask
that
that
any
additional
question
that
councillor
gates
request
be
added
onto
that
item
and
if
you
can
just
if
that's
all
right
with
that,
they
can
elaborate
more
so
that
your
your
question
is
fully
answered.
But
at
that
item.
L
A
Committee:
okay,
thank
you
right
just
to
clarification
there.
It's
not
thai
food,
it's
salad,
so
we'll
keep
going.
A
Petitions
right
this
petition
here
preserved
the
historic
historic
stuart
house
was
going
to
be
present
by
councillor
hamill,
but
he's
not
here.
Did
he
pass
it
on
to
somebody
else
to
present
counselor
on
jones.
J
J
A
Have
you
got
it?
Does
it
all
right?
Could
you
pass
it
on
to
council
owen
jones?
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
the
que
my
normal
question
is
that
is
it
meet
the
nominal
requirements?
Yes,
it
does,
mr
man,
then.
A
The
motion
then,
is
to
take
the
petition
and
send
it
to
their
relevant,
relevant
committee
and
secondary,
is
council
gates
and
put
the
motion
to
you
or
in
face
your
hands
against
motion
carried
minute
taker.
You
can
catch
up
on
that
excuse.
L
Me,
mr
mayor,
could
I
just
interrupt
for
a
moment
because
my
last
question
on
notice
and
council
of
ulster's
response
indicated
next
round,
but
in
the
committee
agenda
forward
planning
there
is
that
item's
not
coming
forward
until
the
third
of
december.
So
my
question
will
be
irrelevant
by
then.
Unless
I
get
a
notification
this
week
in.
B
A
L
A
And
the
appropriate
local
government
time
frame
is
to
be
implemented.
Thank
you
and
answer
it
to
be
directly
to
you.
If
any
other
counselor
wants
it
I'll
see
everyone
you
want
it.
Everyone
does.
Please
cc
all
the
answers
to
all
the
counsellors
and
include
myself.
A
Right
petition
number:
two:
okay:
this
is
the
petition
regarding
the
traffic
calming
goku's
turf
club
and
to
the
solicitor
there.
This
is
merely
getting
the
petition,
a
former
director
which
I'm
included
of
the
turf
club,
maybe
10
years
ago
or
whatever,
and
no
longer
a
member
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff
and
probably
similar
questions
to
council
gates.
I
I
A
H
H
My
to
the
best
of
my
recollection,
my
last
declaration
was
made
with
respect
to
an
application
by
the
turf
club
to
support
night
racing,
where,
in
my
view,
when
that
decision
was
made,
extended
trading
hours
would
support.
Potentially
a
commercial
return
to
my
brother,
and
I
excluded
myself
when
I
consider
this
matter
we're
dealing
with
a
speed
bump,
potentially
on
a
public
road
used
by
anyone
who
might
want
to
avoid
southport
burley
road.
So
in
my
mind
I
see
no
nexus
between
my
brother's
interests
and
this
decision.
H
A
That's
fair
enough!
Well,
I
can't
comment
about
you
either
horses
for
courses
is
that
it
well
just
thinking
about
councillor
warsaw
for
a
minute.
Is
anyone
want
to
push
that
issue,
push
meaning
raise
a
declarable
conflict
and
all
that
this
petition
anyway,
councillor
taylor.
C
F
Mr
mayor,
the
lead
petitioner
is
the
ceo
of
gold
coast,
turf
club,
and
in
presenting
this
petition
I
would
want
to
speak
to
some
issues
that
occur
at
a
state
government
level
that
I
would
see
that
make
sense
that
we
would
advocate
for
in
considering
this
petition.
So,
given
that
I
don't
know
whether
that
impacts
on
what
you
think,
but
I
can
just
present
the
petition.
L
L
A
I
I
L
A
L
A
A
L
So
on
that
basis,
mr
mayor
I'll
just
leave
the
room.
Okay,
and
you
can
continue.
A
Fair
enough
abundance
of
caution,
councillor
question
my.
G
Question
relates
to
the
city,
solicitor's
advice
to
councillor
gates
and
just
for
the
matter
of
how
we
might
proceed
with
this
sort
of
matter
in
the
future.
It's
my
understanding
that
when
a
person
makes
a
personal
interest
declaration
or
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest,
information
is
provided
to
the
meeting
that
we're
actually,
judging
the
that
interest
against
the
decision
being
made,
in
this
case
the
receipt
and
referral
of
a
petition.
Can
I
check
with
the
city
solicitor?
That's
actually
when
we're
judging
a
conflict
of
interest
conflict,
whether
there
is
actually
a
conflict,
the.
G
Decision
that
we're
actually
making,
that
is
how
we're
assessing
the
interest.
That's.
I
K
G
A
Nobody
else
writes
to
me
all
right.
Well,
anyone
else.
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
This
petition
is
about
the
safety
of
staff
and
horses
in
the
equine
precinct,
so
I
will
say
that
our
council
officers
are
already
investigating
and
reviewing
this
and
one
of
the
key
considerations
which
the
turf
club
would
like
to
see
which
is
boom
gates,
which
makes
a
lot
of
sense
because
the
issue
is
between
four
in
the
morning
and
nine
only.
F
A
A
A
Okay,
miss
ceo's
any
general
business
item.
Yeah
me
neither
so
we'll
take
that
one
off
all
right.
Other
business,
the
16.1.
K
A
Okay,
I'll
I'll
move
that
secondary
councillor
caldwell
all
info
show
hands
against
motion
carried
16.2.
Mr
ceo.
K
Similar,
mr
man,
this
is
the
final
management
report
from
qao
based
on
our
financial
audit
of
financial
statements.
Pretty
good
report,
mr
mayor
for
an
organization.
A
A
Councillors
counselors
I've,
I'm
tabling
this
wherever
it
is
boom.
A
Second,
councillor
owen
jones:
anyone
speak
against
this
tabling
or
or
in
favor,
show
hands
against
motion
carried
counselor
adjourned.
30
minutes
for
lance.
A
Mr
ceo,
okay,
streaming
on
right,
we're
up
councillors,
we're
up
to
we're
in
other
business,
and
we
will
now
go
to
16.3
being
the
person
sharing
it.
I've
got
a
decoration
I'll
go
straight.
There.
A
Okay,
okay,
counselors.
I
just
read
it
out
with
the
notes
in
front
of
me,
as
per
council
investigation
in
investigations
policy,
I
initially
commenced
an
investigation
on
this
matter
by
identifying
at
an
early
stage
that
former
councilor
bolton
uses
the
same
law
firm
that
I
do
for
complaint
matters.
Mr
holt
is
the
principal
of
richard
holt
lawyers
and
represent
both
myself
and
former
councillor
bolton
on
complaint
matters.
A
For
that
reason,
I
recused
myself
from
the
investigation
immediately
given
the
potential
for
a
perception
of
conflict
now
that
the
matter's
gone
to
tribunal
and
and
has
been
independently
investigated
by
the
other
council
council
of
conduct
tribunal.
I
believe
I
have
dealt
with
the
perception
of
conflict
adequately
and
I
retain
an
open
and
persuadable
mind
as
to
whether
or
not
former
councilor
bolton
is
guilty
of
inappropriate
conduct.
A
So
so
I'm
seeking
permission
to
participate
in
in
making
decisions
stay
in
a
room
on
this
matter.
A
Right,
council
owned
jones.
J
Thank
you,
mr
man,
so
I
have
some
words,
and
that
is.
J
A
Second,
council
toza:
can
you
pass
that
on
and
while,
while
I
I'll
get
you
to
speak
on,
I
just
want
to
know
who
else
will
be
making
decorations.
So
I
know
in
my
own
head
that
that
you
know
not
to
count
so
it'll,
be
cancer
guides,
call
well
and
bail
them
lumps,
and
so
therefore,
okay
now
I
know
where
I'm
at
just
give
a
minute.
A
A
counselor
would
get
me
to
poise,
poor,
sorry
and
but
I
want
to
give
every
opportunity,
since
we're
dealing
with
oia
matters.
A
A
A
A
It
wasn't
all
right,
councilwoman
jones,
please.
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
so
I
moved
the
procedural
motion
and
I
think
that'll
be
the
first
of
the
couple
that
we
will
receive
today,
but
I
think,
in
the
context
of
why
you
excused
yourself
from
the
investigation
made
perfect
sense
and
the
city
had
a
process
in
place
to
allow
somebody
else
to
take
on
that
role.
I
think
that
where
we
are
today,
it's
actually
important
and
makes
sense
that
you,
as
the
mayor
and
the
chair
of
the
council,
continue
in
that
role
today.
I
think
that
there
was
you
you
followed.
J
The
right
course
in
regards
to
remember
excusing
yourself
from
the
first
instance,
but
I
think
that
it
actually
would
be
the
wrong
course
if
you
weren't
in
the
meeting
today,
given
the
responsibility
that
we
have
under
the
act
to
do
what
we
have
to
do
today
in
regards
to
these
matters
that
have
been
referred
back
to
council,
okay,.
A
L
L
I
confirm,
mr
mayor,
that
the
legal
response
was
as
a
result
of
my
requesting
to
cite
the
evidence
referred
to
in
the
tribunal's
recommendation,
but
while
I've
had
no
further
involvement
in
the
matter
and
do
not
accept
that,
I
demonstrated
any
bias,
I'm
making
this
declaration
and
voluntarily
deciding
not
to
participate
in
the
matter
to
ensure
public
trust
in
the
decision-making
process.
So
I
will
be
leaving
the
room.
A
L
L
To
cite
the
evidence
referred
to
no
s-I-g-h-t
referred
to
in
the
tribunal's
recommendation.
M
Down's
the
core
work
thanks,
mr
mayor,
I'm
rising
to
make
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
out
of
an
abundance
of
caution,
because
you'll
have
read
in
the
report
that
the
initial
instigation
of
the
concern
around
this
behavior
had
come
from
complaints
that
were
made
to
my
office,
and
so,
whilst
the
report
is
very
clear
in
that
respect,
I
feel
like
it
should
be
aired
that
there's
no.
M
M
M
Then
council
bolton
and
I
ultimately
contested
the
2020
election,
but
you'll
have
also
read
that
the
particular
incident
had
occurred
in
I
think
december
or
november
or
december
of
2018
well,
before
any
of
that
had
come
to
light,
and
so
I
don't
actually
think
that
there's
anything
that
anyone
should
read
into
this,
but
for
the
sake
of
being
absolutely
transparent,
I'm
very
happy
to
leave
the
matter
in
the
hands
of
my
colleagues
to
deal
with
it,
and
so
on
that
basis,
I'll
leave
the
room
as
well.
Okay,.
M
Thank
you,
miss
marohad
rosemont
as
well.
My
family
has
a
connection
to
the
bolton
family
and,
from
that
connection,
taking
a
number
of
the
boxes,
I've
subsequently
been
to
the
bolton's
family
home
as
a
tutor
for
their
son
she's,
the
subject
of
the
report
and
I'm
choosing
to
leave
the
room
as
well.
Okay,
thank
you.
J
So
if
I
could
ask
a
question
first,
mr
mayor,
I'm
happy
to
move
the
recommendation
shortly,
but
on
page
nine
of
the
supplementary
agenda
there
is
an
I'm
assuming
an
example
of
the
correspondence
that
had
been
distributed.
I'm
interested
in
maybe
through
you
to
the
ceo
asking
how
it
had
been
distributed.
Was
it
a
letterbox
drop
or
by
some
other
means?
J
J
Thank
you
and
that's,
mr
mayor,
something
as
a
divisional
counselor.
I
can
tell
you
that
that's
something
that's
rather
unusual
to
use
postage
to
deliver
this
type
of
material
into
the
community,
because
that
comes
at
a
cost,
and
I
know
in
the
report
we
have
under
funding.
We
have
the
funding
and
resource
requirements
that
have
taken
place
in
regards
to
having
to
resolve
this
matter
over
the
last
two
or
three
years.
J
But
in
addition
to
that,
I
think
that
it
would
be
remiss
of
us
not
to
at
least
ask
some
questions
in
regards
to
the
actual
cost
of
the
material
that
was
distributed,
because
it
was
the
material
that
was
distributed.
That,
in
my
mind,
has
caused
some
members
of
the
public
to
complain
about
it.
So
because,
as
you
know,
we've
all
got
a
responsibility
of
treating
rate
pays
dollars
carefully.
So,
in
the
context
that
it
is,
was
a
direct
mail
out.
K
J
So
so,
mr
marrow,
I
I
think
that
it's
important
that
it's
not
a
mine
in
my
mind.
It's
not
a
minor
matter
of
somebody
investing
a
hundred
dollars
on
a
print
run
and
then
fifty
dollars
or
a
hundred
dollars
on
a
on
a
mailbox
delivery
into
a
small,
concentrated
area.
J
That's
actually
a
significant
volume
of
dollars,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
we've
now
got
a
new
policy
that
prevents
divisional
counsellors
from
doing
that
type
of
mail
out,
because
the
dollar
amount
spent
on
the
mail
out
is
is
in
my
mind
what
what
has
offended
you
know
so
and
they're
also
an
amounts
that
we
have
a
statutory
obligation
to
report
in
regards
to
our
annual
reports,
and
inevitably
there
is
mainstream
media
interest
around
the
dollars
that
individual
divisional
councillors
have
spent
in
regards
to
printing
and
stationery,
and
when
that
isn't
reported
in
the
annual
report,
that
makes
it
a
a
little
bit
difficult.
J
That's
what
I'm
going
to
describe,
in
my
words,
is
an
extraordinary
amount
of
money
to
be
committed
to
a
community
function
so
and
again,
to
put
that
into
perspective.
I
think,
as
divisional
counsellors,
we're
all
aware
that
it
might
cost
from
time
to
time
somewhere
between
five
to
fifteen
twenty
thousand
dollars
to
put
on
something
like
a
christmas
carols
or
an
easter
celebration,
and
our
communities
love
them.
J
They
really
do,
but
there
has
to
be
some
type
of
balance
misdemeanor
in
regards
to
the
amount
that
we
invest
in
actually
delivering
really
good
outcomes
for
the
community
and
the
amount
that
we
invest
in
promotion
of
that
of
that
event.
So
I
think
that
it's,
it's
actually
important
and
beholden
on
us
today
to
give
to
at
least
air
that,
as
part
of
the
reason
why
this
has
arrived.
Where
it's
arrived,
I
don't
have
any
other
questions,
mr
mayor,
but
I'm
happy
to
move
the
recommendation
as
it
stands.
A
Second,
council
ties
our
council.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor.
I
feel
compelled
just
to
draw
the
meeting's
attention
to
page
nine
of
the
agenda
where
there's
a
redacted
portion
on
the
letter,
but
you'll
note
that
what
could
be
identical
information
at
the
end
of
the
letter
has
not
been
redacted.
Now
I
had
a
concern
that
we
may
have
inadvertently
considered
an
agenda
that
had
pointed
to
a
complainant,
which
would
have
been
unfortunate,
though
I've
sought
assurance
and
clarification
from
the
acting
ceo
and
city
officers
that
we're
not
dealing
with
the
complainant's
information.
H
J
J
J
I
think
that
our
recommendation
reflects
the
intent
of
the
investigation,
both
by
the
city
and
other
parties,
and
I
think
that,
ultimately,
not
spending
any
more
time
or
effort
on
this
matter
is
probably
the
best
thing
that
we
could
do.
But
I
think
that
the
salient
learnings
that
we've
received
from
it
is
that
we
need
to
be
incredibly
careful
that
we
both
understand
and
follow
the
policies
that
exist
for
councillors.
In
regards
to
this
type
of
communication
with
our
community.
J
I
don't
think
it
should
stop
us
trying
to
engage
in
doing
community
activities,
and
I
have
a
personal
view
that
the
idea
of
partnering,
with
commercial
providers
and
community
groups,
which
effectively
is
what
the
flyer
had
isn't
necessarily
a
bad
thing.
I
I
accept
in
my
mind,
having
read
the
report
that
former
councillor
bolton
didn't
misuse
the
information
that
was
collated
and
it
was
collated
for
the
purpose
of
finding
a
winner
for
the
raffle.
I
think
that
the
former
councillor
kristen
bolton.
J
I
there's
reference
in
the
report
in
regards
to
another
elected
representative
from
a
different
level
of
government
seeking
access
to
that
database,
and
I
think
that
to
councillor
former
council
of
bolton's
credit,
she
defended
the
database
because
it
was
only
to
be
used
for
one
purpose
and
it
wasn't
to
be
used
for
any
other
purpose
than
that.
So,
in
my
view,
the
decision
that
we
make
today
in
regards
to
this
recommendation
should
be
that
no
further
action
take
place.
Mr
mayor,
okay,
anyone.
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
can't
stand
and
vote
in
a
way
that
would
send
a
message
to
our
ratepayers
that
we
do
not
consider
it
inappropriate
for
a
counsellor
to
spend
forty
thousand
dollars
and
more
money
communicating
and
promoting
what
they're
doing
than
actually
doing
the
event.
I
consider
that
inappropriate.
F
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I've
read
the
report
and
I
think
it's
quite
comprehensive
it.
G
It
gave
me
some
pause,
mr
marion,
that
the
items
outlined
on
page
three
and
four
of
the
report
that
talk
about
what
the
complaint
alleged
do
not
include
the
information
that
council
lauren
jones
has
raised
for
the
council
today,
and
I
think
it
puts
us
in
a
difficult
position
in
that
we're
starting
to
talk
about
things
that
actually
aren't
encompassed
in
the
complaint
and
for
us
to
make
an
appropriate
decision
about
a
you
know,
an
element
of
conduct.
G
G
So
I
feel
concerned
about
that,
mr
mayor,
but
what
I
am
not
concerned
about
is
is
diverging
from
the
council
of
conduct
tribunal's
recommendation
in
this
matter.
They
have
comprehensively
investigated
it
not
only
that,
but
they
have
engaged
people
in
these
chambers
who
have
started
the
investigation
and
then
delegated
the
decision
or
the
delegated.
G
G
I
wanted
to
add
that
I
had
a
very
close
relationship
with
councillor
bolton
and
we
had
a
lot
of
opportunity
at
times
to
talk
about
how
we
engage
with
our
community
and
whilst
I
you
know,
I
am
grave
reservations
about
the
amount
of
money
allocated
to
distribute
information.
G
That
is
not
the
substance
of
the
complaint,
and
I
know
that
deep
down
council
bolton
did
care
deeply
for
her
constituents
and
wanted
them
to.
You
know
be
engaged
with
her
community.
She
wanted
the
best
for
her
community
and
I'm
sure
that
her
intent
in
them
engaging
in
this
way,
whilst
perhaps
the
means
weren't
entirely.
You
know
the
the
best
use
of
rate
payers
money,
I'm
sure
her
heart
was
in
the
right
place
as
she
was
trying
to
raise
the
profile
of
her
local
area.
G
I'm
fully
supportive
of
council
owen
jones
motion
and
I
think
we
should
put
this
matter
behind
us.
Okay,.
J
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
I'll,
close
by
saying
that
we
have
an
obligation
today
to
review
the
material
before
us
to
ask
questions.
If
we
want
to
ask
questions
and
to
debate-
and
I
think
that
that's
what
we've
done,
mr
mayor,
if
the
if
the,
if
we're
provided
with
a
recommendation,
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
in
my
mind
that
we
have
to
follow
that
recommendation.
We
have
to
read
it
and
make
up
our
mind
in
regards
to
it.
J
J
I
can
also
say
that
I
asked
the
questions
I
did
in
regards
to
the
mail
out
council
of
tozer
in
part,
because
I
had
a
an
inkling
of
the
answer
and
that
is
in
part
because
I'm
going
to
accept
some
responsibility,
because
councillor
bolton
contacted
our
office
at
one
stage
asking
how
to
do
or
her
office
contacted
our
office
asking
how
to
do
a
mail
merge
for
a
divisional
electoral
role
and
that's
what
caused
me
to
ask
whether
or
not
that
it
happened,
because
it
was
something
that
I
hadn't
come
across
in
my
entire
representative
career.
J
So
so,
just
to
sum
up,
I
I
think
the
recommendation
is
right,
but
I
am
not
afraid
to
have
a
difference
of
opinion
to
the
tribunal.
If
that
gets
us
to
a
different
answer.
Mr
mayor.
A
A
A
Oh,
could
you
ask
councillor
baldwin
lumsden
cancer
gates
cancer
call
world
to
return.
A
Okay
councillors
we're
up
to
16.4,
okay,
decorations
I'll,
go
first
council,
as
I
am
the
complainant
in
this
matter
in
relation
to
alleged
inappropriate
conduct
by
councillor
mcdonald,
which
clearly
gives
rise
to
a
perceived
conflict
of
interest.
Whilst
the
model
meeting
procedures.
Allow
me
to
seek
permission
to
remain
in
the
room
to
debate
and
vote
on
this
matter.
A
So
counselors,
I'm
voluntary
deciding
not
to
participate
in
making
a
decision
about
the
mata
I'll
ask
council
gates
to
come
up
and
take
over
the
chair
and
also
just
letting
you
know
that
I
am
conflicted
in
the
the
next
item.
So
I
won't
be
returning
for
16.5.
M
M
M
A
Yeah
you
can
check
well
on
on
the
16.5.
Please
come
on
16.5.
If
you
made
my
indulgence,
mrs
ceo,
I
tabled
that
information.
A
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
As
this
item
is
in
relation
to
myself,
I
just
want
to
advise
the
committee
that
I
will
not
be
participating
in
the
matter
and
I'll
be
leaving
the
room.
However,
I'll
be
happy
to
come
back
to
answer
any
questions
so
I'll
leave
the
room
now.
Thank
you.
L
Council
mcdonald,
could
I
just
ask
you
one
question
before
you
go
and
that
was
who
managed
the
page
on
your
behalf
or
whether
you
managed
it
yourself
at
the
time
this
complaint
was
lodged.
D
With
the
the
page,
it's
I
have
my.
G
I
Through
you
acting
chair,
the
situation
is
set
out
in
the
model
meeting
procedures.
So
it's
a
little
bit
different
than
the
normal
conflict
rules
that
provide
apply
for
any
other
matter,
not
too
different.
The
basic
position
is,
if
you're
a
complainant
in
relation
to
an
inappropriate
conduct
matter.
I
The
model
meeting
procedures
say
that
you
may
have
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest,
so
you
don't
automatically
have
a
conflict
of
interest
if
you're
the
complainant.
It's
a
matter
for
that
person
to
consider
whether
or
not
there's
something
that
would
trigger
the
normal
declarable
conflict
of
interest
provisions.
I
It
doesn't
need
to
be
declared
in
the
normal
way
by
going
through
that
process
and
the
model
meeting
procedures
say
that
the
counselor
can
stay
in
the
room
and
be
available
to
answer
questions
for
the
debate
on
the
matter.
But
at
the
point
in
time,
when
council
moves
to
vote
on
whether
or
not
councillor
mcdonald
has
engaged
in
inappropriate
conduct,
the
councillor
then
needs
to
leave
the
room.
G
I
Through
you
acting
chairs,
so
that,
unlike
if
you
are
the
subject
of
a
complaint,
it's
not
an
automatic
trigger,
but
in
relation
to
what
the
mayor
has
done
is
he's
looked
at.
The
provisions
that
apply
in
the
local
government
act
about
whether
he
has
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
and
form
the
view
that
he
thinks
that
he
has
there's
a
conflict
between
his
personal
interest
in
the
matter,
given
that
he
made
the
complaint
and
the
public
interest,
so
not
an
automatic
trigger.
But
he's
considered
that
issue
and
made
a
declaration.
Thank.
G
L
I
Through
you
acting
chairs,
so
we
do,
in
that
instance,
fall
back
to
the
normal
conflict
of
interest
provision.
So
if
any
counselor
has
a
reasonable
suspicion
that
one
of
their
fellow
councillors
has
a
conflict
of
interest
in
relation
to
the
matter,
the
appropriate
thing
to
do
if
that
counselor
doesn't
raise.
The
conflict
themselves
is
to
actually
raise
that
reasonable
suspicion
and
it
sets
in
chain
that
process
under
the
local
government
act
for
raising
it
getting
their
response
and
dealing
with
it.
Accordingly.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
a
follow-up
question
on
that.
So,
when
you're
talking
about
a
and
identifying
whether
a
complainant
has
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest,
you're,
are
you
looking
at
that
from
does
that
include
the
lens
of
a
the
public
having
a
perception
of
a
conflict
of
interest?
I
Through
your
acting
chair
there,
the
current
legislative
framework
doesn't
carry
over
the
old,
perceived
and
real
conflict
of
interest
tests.
So
it
is
a
little
bit
different,
but
in
relation
to
declarable
conflicts
of
interest,
it
falls
back
to
that
principles.
Test
of
whether
or
not
a
reasonable
person
might
presume
that
there
was
a
conflict
between
the
person's
personal
interest
and
the
public
interest
and
then
the
additional
step
that
might
lead
to
a
conflict
in
the
final
decision.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
madam
chair.
I
think
it
was
last
council
round.
We
considered
an
item
which
provoked,
and
I
say
that
in
a
grammatical
sense,
but
it
it
prompted.
Perhaps
I
should
say
councillor
patterson,
to
ask
a
series
of
questions
which
were
later
captured
in
the
gold
coast
bulletin
article
concerning,
I
suppose,
the
way
we
manage
our
professional
relationships.
H
I'm
just
ventilating
that,
because
it's
a
bit
of
information
that
the
community
is
perhaps
not
aware
of-
and
I
would
just
invite
any
counselor
who
might
have
a
dissenting
view,
particularly
council
at
patterson-
to
I
guess-
give
us
the
opportunity
to
manage
that.
Otherwise
I'll
I'll
continue
as
is
and
sit
down.
L
Thank
you,
councillor
toza.
If
there.
L
Not
ready
for
that
just
yet
sorry.
I
I
too,
like
council
of
ors
to
have
considered
the
information
that
came
forward
from
the
city
solicitor
yesterday,
because
you'll
all
recall
that
I
at
the
city,
solicitor's
suggestion
made
a
declaration
of
a
close
personal
association
with
the
mayor.
L
The
city
solicitor
did
provide
me
with
some
additional
guidance
and
in
moving
between
my
seats
today.
I
don't
have
it
with
me,
but
just
for
the
record
and
for
the
benefit
of
everyone
here.
I
do
not
intend
to
make
a
declaration,
because
the
details
that
were
provided
to
us
all
yesterday
clearly
indicated
that,
yes,
I
have
a
good
working
relationship
with
the
mayor
and,
as
a
result,
I've
interacted
with
him
on
occasions,
but
that
would
be
expected
after
a
nine
and
a
half
year
period
as
his
deputy.
L
C
Thank
you
and
again
in
relation
to
the
same
subject.
In
relation
to
my
personal,
the
advice
I've
been
given
at
this
stage,
I'm
happy
to
say
that
I
won't
be
providing
it
the
close
relationship
that,
in
relation
to
my
wedding,
the
close
relationship
relates
to
my
father
to
the
coming
to
the
wedding.
So
at
this
stage
I've
taken
advice
in
relation
to
to
him
being
a
close
relationship
to
my
father.
L
And
I
might
note
that,
in
the
advice
that
was
distributed
by
the
city
solicitor,
it
did
not
suggest
that
anyone
would
be
compromised
by
attending
a
wedding
but
more
if
they
were
part
of
the
wedding
party.
So
there
was
a
big
difference
in
our
judgment.
I
believe,
on
the
basis
of
of
that
I
mean
I
mentioned,
that
I
was
invited
to
the
mayor's
daughter's
wedding.
I
certainly
wouldn't
have
been
in
the
wedding
party,
but
I
think
that's
funny,
because
I'm
so
old
anyway,
so
I
I
just
wanted.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
given
council
of
foster
just
noted
that
I
raised
it
and
given
that
the
additional
advice
has
come
in,
I
thank
the
city
solicitor
for
making
that
really
clear.
The
reason
why
I
raised
it
is
because
there
is
an
expectation
that
we
we
really
flesh
out
and
ensure
that
there's
transparency,
I
didn't
know
whether
there
was
conflicts
or
not.
F
I
asked
the
question
to
identify
whether
they
were
and
it's
pretty
clear
now,
given
that
advice,
we've
gotten
from
the
city
solicitor
from
my
perspective,
that
there
isn't
a
conflict
where
there's
a
working
relationship
and
you
may
have
also
been
attend,
attended
an
event,
so
that
was
very
helpful
yesterday.
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
I
don't
have
a
dissenting
view
to
council
of
star.
M
Well,
since
we're
doing
this
on
this
matter,
where
mr
mayor
is
the
complainant,
I
will
similarly
just
clarify
the
matter
that
was
raised
at
the
last
meeting,
which
I
thought
was
probably
less
relevant
to
this
matter
and
is
more
relevant
to
the
following
matter.
But
for
the
sake
of
putting
it
on
the
record,
I
am
not
going
to
make
a
declaration
relating
to
mr
mayor
today.
I've
reviewed
the
advice
that
the
city
solicitor
has
provided
that
was
dated
the
11th
of
october
2021,
outlining
what
constitutes
a
close
personal
relationship.
L
Thanks
councillor
caldwell
now,
the
matter
before
us
arose
due
to
the
lodgement
of
a
complaint
about
potentially
defamatory
comments
on
councillor,
mcdonald's,
facebook,
page
and
now
I'll
turn
it
over
to
accounts.
The
counsellors
to
discuss
councilloran
jones.
J
M
L
D
M
Thanks
through
you,
deputy
mayor
council
mcdonald,
did
you
actually
just
delete
the
material
or
hide
it
once
it
sort
of
had
come
to
your
attention.
D
Madam
chair,
once
it
came
to
our
attention,
we
couldn't
find
it
because
I
wasn't
aware
that,
with
the
particular
post
that
was
put
up,
there
was
other
photos
that
were
attached
and
at
the
time
we
tried
to
find
it
in
my
office,
and
I
couldn't
we
went
to
the
offices
to
ask
you
know
where
this
comment,
or
these
comments
were,
and
it
was
only
then
that
we
found
out
where
the
comments
soon
as
we
found
out,
they
were
removed.
L
D
D
There
was
a
number
of
photos
that
were
attached
so
when
it
goes
up
on
the
page,
it
has
the
photo
one
photo
and
then
it
has
four
or
five
whatever
you
put,
and
the
comments
was
made
on
one
of
the
additional
photos,
but
that
didn't
show
up
in
the
main
list
and
it
wasn't
until
we
went
and
seen
it
that
it
was
under
one
of
the
photos.
L
And
if
I
don't
know
whether
all
of
the
councillors
are
aware
of
the
sorts
of
comments
that
were
made,
but
they
were
incredibly
derogatory
about
and
alleged
corrupt
conduct,
something
that
none
of
us
would
ever
like
to
be
accused
of,
so
I
just
provide
that
and
and
really
ugly
language
around
it
so
councilman
o'neal.
D
Me,
council
mcdonald,
do
you
receive
notifications
of
someone
commenting
on
your
page,
whether
it
be
on
a
photo
or
in
the
mainstream,
because
I
do
that
and
that's
sort
of
a
way
that
you
don't
miss
them?
D
And
I
think
we're
all
more
or
less
the
same.
We
go
and
check
every
comments
and
what
I
normally
do.
If
I
I
see
comments
myself,
I
go
to
by
messenger,
and
I
do
speak
to
the
whoever's,
put
the
comment
up
and
ask
them
to
either
remove
it
or
revert
it.
However,
what
we
did
do
through
corp
comms,
I
had
one
of
the
officers
come
down.
D
Who
was
very
good
and
I'd
suggest
that
any
councillors
that
want
information
there
was
information
that
was
given
that
any
particular
words
or
names
are
triggered
that
when
those
words
or
names
come
up,
that
those
comments
are
hidden.
So
that's
another
a
way
of
trying
to
address
the
situation
with
people
putting
up
comments,
because
you
know
you
might
not
go
into
your
facebook
page
for
a
couple
of
days
and
we
certainly
don't
want
derogatory
comments
put
up
about
other
councillors
or
anybody.
L
J
I
mean
I'm
actually
interested
in
in
moving
the
recommendation
as
it
is,
but
it's
up
to
you,
council,
against
I'll.
J
Sorry
so
seconded.
J
I
think
I've
gone
with
the
blue
tie
from
the
helensvale
hogs
today,
just
quietly,
so
I
I'm.
I
move
it
because
I
think
that
we've
got
in
councillor
mcdonald
again
an
extraordinary
community
advocate
who
has
been
in
the
position
since
1991
she's
told
us
that
she's
hasn't
had
to
experience
this
type
of
inappropriate
conduct
allegations
previously
other
than
one
other
around
facebook.
J
So
councillor
mcdonald
started
in
1991,
probably
before
the
invention
of
the
fax
machine
and
is
now
well
and
truly
and
well
and
truly
in
the
midst
of
of
social
media,
and
that's
a
challenge
for
us
all,
because
what
social
media
has
allowed
a
lot
of
members
of
the
community
is
to
say
whatever
they
think
or
feel
that
they
want
to
say
and
not
feel
that
they
have
any
responsibility
in
regards
to
what
they
say,
and
it's
beholden
on
us
as
the
owners
of
those
pages
to
make
sure
that
wherever
possible,
we
mitigate
some
of
that
and
counsel
mcdonald.
J
While
she
was
here
has
said
that
she's
taken
some
steps
to
make
sure
that
some
of
the
words
that
people
use
a
bit
recklessly
are
no
longer
able
to
be
used
on
her
page,
and
I
think
that's
a
positive
thing.
J
And
then
I
think
that
the
other
positive
thing
that
has
maybe
come
out
of
this
term
of
council
is
that
I
think
that
the
elected
representatives
are
probably
more
interested
in
picking
up
the
phone
and
having
a
conversation
with
their
colleagues
in
the
event
that
there
is
an
issue
that
could
easily
be
addressed
and
we
would
save
an
enormous
amount
of
time
and
effort.
If
that
was
to
happen
more
often
than
not.
J
So
I
think
the
reality
is
that
nobody
likes
it
when
there
are,
in
particular,
the
word
corrupt
conduct
published
on
social
media,
because
that
is
an
offence
to
people's
integrity
and
how
they
have
go,
go
about
doing
their
work.
Being
elected
representative
is
not
always
the
easiest,
and
we
have
to
put
up
with
a
whole
lot
of
free
public
advice
that
we
receive
in
regards
to
how
we
conduct
ourselves
and
sometimes
how
we
conduct
ourselves.
J
Isn't
how
somebody
who
wants
to
be
critical
of
us
would
like
us
to
be
able
to
conduct
ourselves,
but
we
have
a
whole
set
of
rules
that
we
have
to
follow
and
we
have
to
be
very
mindful
of
so.
I
think
the
recommendation
and
the
advice
received
from
the
tribunal
in
this
case
is
the
is
the
correct
course
of
action
for
this
council.
L
In
which
case
a
counselor
caldwell.
M
Yeah,
just
as
the
second
of
the
motion,
I
thought
I
might
take
the
opportunity.
Look.
Social
media
is
clearly
a
very
difficult
area
for
us
to
all
manage,
and
the
interesting
thing
in
my
review
of
this
material
was
that
some
of
the
material
published
actually
related
to
me,
which
was
fun
and
of
all
the
things
I
think
you
were
called
sponsors
yeah,
which
is
interesting,
given
that
I'm
standing,
but
in
all
seriousness
I
I
actually
think
in
all
seriousness.
M
I
actually
think
that
the
the
obligation
on
us
with
facebook
pages
and
social
media
is
to
in
use
of
the
word
moderate.
M
I
think
all
you
can
do
is
exactly
what
council
mcdonald
did,
and
that
is
when
something's
brought
to
your
attention
or
you
see
it,
you
don't
prolong
unnecessarily
the
publication
of
the
material
and
I'm
quite
satisfied
that
council
macdonald
took
steps
immediately
that
it
came
to
her
attention
to
resolve
that
in
order
to
protect
the
interests
of
all
of
the
individuals
who
were
named
in
those
posts
and
particularly
the
complainant,
so,
council
mcdonald,
I
actually
think
did
everything
she
could
have
possibly
done,
and
I
think
in
that
respect
she
couldn't
possibly
be
found
guilty
of
inappropriate
conduct.
M
I
actually
think
she
probably
did
a
pretty
pretty
good
job
in
the
circumstances
and
I
don't
think
in
any
way,
shape
or
form
council
mcdonald's
conduct.
M
Exacerbated
comments
which
were
clearly
made
by
a
third
party
not
in
any
way
attributable
to
her
and
not
in
any
way,
given
the
timeline
that
they
were
available
for
public
consumption
really
could
any
of
the
damage
be
sheeted
home
to
her
conduct.
So
I,
as
the
seconder
of
this
motion,
strongly
support
councillor
owen
jones
in
moving
the
recommendation.
L
K
F
I
just
I
just
think
it's
worth
noting
that
I,
as
I
completely
agree
and
I've
agreed
as
in
the
vote,
but
when
councillor
claude
will
mentioned
that
we
can't
necessarily
be
responsible
for
what
someone
else
wrote.
It
does
make
sense.
We
recognize
the
new
high
court
decision
that
they
effectively
see
us
as
the
author
of
those,
so
we're
now
held
to
a
higher
account
at
the
high
court
level.
Thanks.
L
Councilman
patterson,
okay,
we'll
move
on
to
councillor
owen
jones.
J
Thank
you.
We've
we've
cleared
a
whole
lot
of
air
in
regards
to
people
being
invited
to
weddings
and
I've
been
married
for
a
considerable
period
of
time.
So
mr
mayor
has
not
been
invited
to
my
wedding,
but
I
was
invited
to
councillor
glenn
toes's
wedding
and
I
wasn't
part
of
the
party
and
at
the
time
I
was
I
went
to
the
party
and
I
didn't
consume
any
alcohol
because
I
was
on
an
alcohol-free
binge.
J
So
I
I
just
say
it
in
the
context
that
I
don't
intend
to
make
a
declaration.
But
if
anybody
would
like
to
have
that
conversation,
I'm
happy
to
to
deal
with
it.
L
Thank
you.
Does
anyone
have
an
issue
with
councillor
owen
jones,
attending
the
wedding,
but
not
being
part
of
the
party?
No
okay,
we'll
move
on
councillor
young
peter
young.
You
had
your
hand
up
thanks.
B
Acting
chair,
I've
made
a
declaration
and
I'll
be
departing
the
room
for
the
consideration
of
this
matter.
We
received
legal
advice
from
the
city
solicitor
yesterday
and
in
that
the
state
government's
guide,
titled
managing
conflicts
of
interest,
quick
reference
guide
was
cited
and
the
provision
that
I
picked
up
there
was
that
if
you've
had
ongoing
or
past
legal
disputes
with
the
person
and
obviously
in
my
case,
I
have
had
a
past
dispute
with
mayor,
but
it
further
says
or
other
personal
reason
for
strongly
disliking
them.
I
just
want
to
make
the
clarification.
B
L
No
okay,
then
I'm
going
to
ask
councillor
toza.
I
I
believe
that
as
the
complainant,
counselor
toza
and
the
history
associated
with
your
relationship
with
the
mayor
that
perhaps
you
don't
come
to
this
meeting
with
an
open
and
persuadable
mind.
I'd
like
to
give
you
the
opportunity
to
respond
to
that
before
I
go
on
any
further.
G
The
report
that
is
in
the
public
domain
does
not
disclose
the
complaint
and
I
don't
intend
to
confirm
or
deny
who
the
complainant
is.
If
I
know
who
that
person
is,
it
hasn't
been
disclosed
in
the
public
domain
and
it
shouldn't
be
all
of
the
complaints
we've
dealt
with
today
have
not
disclosed
the
complainant,
and
this
report
doesn't
refer
to
me
as
the
complainant.
L
Okay,
city
solicitor:
can
I
seek
some
guidance
on
this
because
the
mayor
just
left
the
room
giving
that
information
to
us
we've
had
a
briefing
this
year
this
week,
where
councillors
were
all
advised
of
the
complainants
and
if
I've
misstepped,
could
you
please
tell
me.
I
Through
you,
madam
chair,
it's
important
to
remember
that
the
conflict
of
interest
regime
has
a
positive
obligation
to
include
particular
information
in
conflicts,
and
that
includes
obviously
the
people
who
are
involved.
It's
also
important
to
remember
the
knowledge
that
each
of
you
have
in
the
room
of
who
is
the
complainant.
L
And
before
I'll,
just
give
you
a
minute
to
think
about
that
councillor
toza,
because
I've
noticed
that
the
mayor's
legal
representative
has
just
stepped
back
into
the
gallery.
And
although
the
mayor
has
left
this
meeting,
my
understanding
is
that
there
has
been
permission
given
in
regard
to
any
question
that
might
be
raised,
that
if
anyone
has
any
query
for
mr
holt,
if
it's
of
a
legal
nature,
mr
hulk
can
be
invited
into
the
chamber
to
answer
any
of
your
questions.
L
G
G
I've
read
the
report
like
everyone
else.
I
have
knowledge
of
what
was
said
and
I
believe
I
do
have
an
open
and
persuadable
mind.
I
am
very
interested
in
hearing
what
other
counsellors
might
have
to
say
about
the
thresholds
of
conduct
for
public
comments
made
about
members
of
the
public
and
other
councillors.
G
Yeah,
I
believe
that
I
do.
I
believe
it
that
every
person
who
every
councillor
who
is
governed
under
the
local
government
act
when
they
hear
comments
or
they
observe
conduct
of
counsellors.
They
make
a
decision
when
they
make
a
complaint
or
when
they
don't
make
a
complaint.
G
I
believe
that
your
allegation,
or
your
your
suggestion
about
my
open
and
persuadable
mind.
I
believe
I
do
have
an
open
spline
and
even
if
I
was
the
complainant,
which
I
am
not
confirming,
I
don't
believe
I
would
be
any
more
conflicted
than
any
person
who
observed
the
conduct
and
chose
not
to
make
a
complaint.
F
F
It
has
been
made
clear
that
councillor
toza
is
the
complainant,
so
he
has
there's
a
couple
of
things.
So
the
the
first
thing
is,
if
he
votes
in
favor,
it's
supporting
the
complaint.
Will
it
be
like?
Well,
of
course
he
did
if
he
votes
against
it,
it
could
be
well.
Is
he
trying
to
get
in
favor
with
the
mayor
or
not?
I
don't
it's.
What
would
be
a
reasonable
person's
expectation?
G
I'd
like
her
to
explain
the
benefit
that
she's
referring
to
this
is
a
grave
matter,
and
I
she
hasn't
been
able
to
quantify
the
benefit
that
she's
suggesting
or
that
I
might
attain.
I
don't
know
what
that
would
be
compared
to
anything
else
that
she
might
be
talking
about.
I
don't
understand
this
benefit
is
an
allegation
of
effectively
of
me
gaining
a
benefit
by
a
decision
made
of
counsel.
I
can't
quantify
what
that
is.
F
Okay
to
to
to
explain
it,
so
the
benefit
would
be
if
it
votes
in
favor,
then
a
it
would
be
reasonable
for
a
member
of
the
public
to
think.
Well,
that
looks
like
it
went
the
way
councillor
toza
wanted
it
to
go,
and
if
he
votes
against
it
it
would
go
well,
look,
there's
a
potential
of
a
repairing,
a
relationship,
we're
not
talking
about
what
is
the
case
for
councillor
toza
we're
talking
about
what
a
reasonable
person
would
expect
or
could
presume.
L
So
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
ask
if
anyone
wants
to
move
a
motion
that
counselor
tosa
makes
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
declaration
coun
councillor
bolster.
H
Madam
chair
real
risk
of
irritating
you,
I
thought
I
might
ask
a
question
through
you
to
the
city
solicitor,
which
perhaps
will
assuage
the
concern
of
councillor
paterson
and
bring
a
different
perspective
to
this.
If
the
concern
that
councillor
patterson
holds
is
around
councillor
toza
voting
in
the
matter
in
the
context
of
an
investigation
matter,
is
it
open
to
us
to
deal
with
a
conflict
of
interest
and
then
to
afford
councillor
toza
by
way
of
condition
the
ability
to
remain
in
the
room,
but
not
ultimately
vote
in
the
matter?
I
I
What
we
need
to
do
is
revert
to
the
process
for
raising
a
reasonable
suspicion,
which
will
mean,
having
the
minute
secretary,
bring
up
that
template
or
populate
the
reasons
for
why
you
think
that
councillor
toza
does
have
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
and
then
the
only
issue
to
be
determined
then,
is
whether
or
not
you
are
happy
for
him
to
stay
in
the
room
and
participate
in
the
matter
or
would
require
him
to
leave.
So
I
think
process
wise
rather
than
debating
that
issue
now.
The
first
question
is
councillor:
toza.
G
Chair,
I'm
not
sure
how
I
can
answer
the
question
of
city
solicitor.
I
am
a
reasonable
person,
would
read
this
report
and
they
would
become
aware
of
a
previous
tribunal
ruling
that
that
is
in
the
public
domain,
but
no
person
reading
this
report
would
specifically
or
explicitly
understand
who
the
complainant
is
because
the
complainant
is
not
named.
G
That
is
that
I
was
related
that
was
related
to
me,
but
that
is
an
unrelated
matter,
so
I
could.
I
could
declare
to
that
extent,
if
you
are
seeking
for
me
to
disclose
something
to
the
meeting.
That
is
self-evident
in
the
the.
L
If
you
don't
wish
to
make
a
declaration,
then
I
will
raise
a
reasonable
suspicion
due
to
your
difficult
relationship
with
the
mayor
over
a
period
of
time
that
you
should
declare
wow
and
and
and
councillor
toza,
I'm
not
trying
to
make
this
hard
for
you.
It
is
on
the
public
record
that
you
have
twice
mayoral
candidates
opposing
the
mayor
in
2016
and
in
2020.
L
G
G
L
And
I
I
will
mention
in
this
the
fact
that
sorry,
no
and
and
and
counsellor
tozas.
L
Not
just
yet
I
I
therefore
query.
L
L
I
haven't
mentioned
in
that
city
solicitor,
the
name
of
the
person
who
raised
the
complaint-
which
I
believe
is
significant
in
this
matter
before
us
today
and
I'm
loathed
to
go
back
there
because
of
what's
happened.
But
I'm
encouraged
by
your
commentary
that
we
are
all
aware
of
the
complainant
and
we
can't
not
have
that
knowledge
in
considering
the
matter
before
us.
So
would
you
suggest
that
it
be
included
as
part
of
this
reasonable
suspicion.
I
Madam
chair,
so
then
the
basis
of
your
you
raising
the
suspicion
is
that
counselor
tozer
has
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest.
Correct.
L
H
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
acting
chair
through
you
to
the
civil
city
solicitor
on
may.
H
I
probably
formed
the
view
that
there
is
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
to
manage
here,
if
only
because,
in
a
public
forum,
we've
had
so
much
nuanced
discussion
that
I
think
to
provide
certainty
to
the
community.
It's
best
to
deal
with
it
right,
but
I
don't
necessarily
rely
completely
on
the
background
provided
by
councillor
gates
in
her
raising
a
reasonable
suspicion.
H
So,
for
example,
on
the
issue
of
supporting
a
merrell
candidate.
That's
for
me,
not
jermaine.
My
question
is
madam
chair
through
you
to
the
city.
Solicitor
is:
is
that
reasonable
suspicion
owned
or
the
rationale
the
description?
The
basis
is
that
owned
by
the
person
raising
the
reasonable
suspicion,
and
then
is
it
open
to
us
in
the
chamber
to
vote
on
the
procedural
issue
without
having
regard
or
relying
on
the
explanation
or
the
basis
of
the
suspicion
provided
by
councillor
gates.
H
So,
for
example,
I
might
not
be
entirely
comfortable
with
what's
in
there,
but
I
still
feel
as
though
there's
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
to
manage.
So
should
I
put
my
hand
up
in
the
air
and
support
that
there
is
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
or,
if
I'm
not
entirely
comfortable
with
the
rationale,
should
I
abstain
or
vote
in
the
affirmative,
lest
I
endorse
the
basis
of
the
reasonable
suspicion.
So,
madam
chair
question,
through
you
to
the
city
solicitor.
H
I
Certainly,
I
think
the
better
approach
is
to
take
the
declaration
raising
the
suspicion
as
councillor
gates
doing
that.
So
it's
a
matter
for
her
to
be
comfortable.
It
may
be
that
if
there
are
additional
things
that
you
think
should
be
include,
councillor
gates
might
be
open
to,
including
those
in
her
declaration,
while
the
process
doesn't
at
all
envisage
this
happen
happening.
If
you
had
a
completely
different
concern,
we
could
potentially
record
that
in
a
separate
document
raising
those
suspicions,
but
I
think
the
the
focus
for
council
today
should
just
be
on
we've.
L
Councillor
boerster,
I
would
be
happy
to
delete
the
section
relating
to
the
support
of
the
mayoral
candidates
and
just
simply
say
due
to
councillor
toza
being
the
complainant
in
the
matter,
if
that
you're
more
comfortable
with
that
yeah.
So
I
I
am
cognizant
of
that.
L
I
was
frightened
to
use
that
given
the
conversation,
but
that
is
the
basis
for
my
question
today
or
suspicion
today.
So
please
could
we
remove
being
the
complainant
yep?
No,
no!
I
don't
just
a
full
stop
after
matter
please,
and
then
I
I'm
happy
to
leave
yeah
just
a
full
stop
after
matter.
Thank
you.
M
I
M
So,
therefore,
is
it
up
sorry,
council
mcdonald?
Is
it
therefore
a
matter
for
councillor
gates
in
her
raising
of
the
suspicion
to
then
effectively
also
move
that
action?
If
you
like,
like
that,
that
is
actually
the
procedural
motion
is
that
what
we
need
from
her
or
from
someone.
I
To
you,
madam
chair,
I
think
the
minute
secretary
has
the
the
words
up
on
the
screen
of
what
some
recommended
procedural
motions,
ignoring
the
prescribed
conflict
of
interest
ones.
So
it's
a
motion
that
counselor
told
her
has
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
in
the
matter
and
then
that
whether
or
not
he
stays
or
grows.
D
Madam
chair,
I
just
wanted
to
bring
to
the
attention
of
council
of
a
email
that
we
received
from
the
acting
ceo
on
friday,
the
8th
of
october,
which
was
a
confidential
memo
to
councillors
in
regards
to
the
complainant
identities,
and
I'm
just
wondering
how
that
stands
in
relation
to
this.
I
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
in
determining
whether
it's
appropriate
for
counselor
tozer
to
stay
in
the
room
or
not.
For
me,
the
question
would
be
well.
F
Is
there
something
that
he
contributes
to
the
debate
that
cannot
be
otherwise
attained
through
the
other
councillors,
and
my
concern
is
whatever
that
is
gets
coloured
by
the
fact
he
is
also
the
complainant.
So
I
haven't.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
as
a
comment
at
the
moment.
C
Thank
you.
I
suppose
the
other
question
I've
got
is
if
councillor
teresa
wasn't
able
to
stay
in
the
room,
but
we
did
have
questions
for
him.
Would
he
be
able
to
return
for
questioning
during
the.
L
Debate,
yes,
councillor
taylor.
The
answer
to
that
is
exactly
as
it
was
for
councillor
mcdonald
that
if
the
decision
was
for
him
not
to
participate,
we
could
invite
him
back
to
answer
any
questions
that
any
counsellor
may
have
so
counsellors.
I'm
looking
for
some
guidance
from
you
whether
you
would
like
counselor
toza.
L
I
I've
councilloran
jones.
J
So
could
I
just
ask
a
question
to
the
city
solicitor
if
councillor
toza
was
to
stay
in
the
room
but
not
be
able
to
vote?
That
would
also
prevent
him
from
being
either
the
mover
or
the
second
of
a
motion.
J
J
Yes,
that's
correct,
yeah,
councillor
tozer,
I
understand
how
important
this
is
and
how
important
you
feel
your
position
is
being
in
this
chamber
and
being
able
to
cast
a
vote,
and
I
know
that
we've
had
a
conversation
offline
about
this
and
I
counselor
told
her.
I
can't
bring
myself
to
support
you
being
in
the
room.
I
think
that
we
can
rely
on
the
collective
representation
that
exists
in
the
room
to
make
a
decision.
J
I
know
that
that
may
sit
uncomfortably
with
you
and
you
may
not
happy
be
happy
with
me
voicing
that.
But
one
of
the
challenges
that
we
have
as
elected
representatives
is,
we
are
the
only
level
of
government
in
australia
that
has
to
go
through
this
particular
type
of
process
and
it
is
uncomfortable
and
not
easy
and
I'll
speak
to
it
shortly,
but
I
can't
support
I.
I
can't
support
conditions
because
I
don't
think
it
gets
us
too
far.
L
Okay,
I
shall
then
sorry
counselor.
G
I
have
some
convictions
about
remaining
in
the
room
when
these
matters
are
discussed,
so
those
convictions,
I
feel,
have
been
articulated
very
strongly
today,
but
any
counselor
who
voted
with
a
motion
to
remove
me
from
the
room.
I
would
that's
actually
that's
how
that's
that's
your
job.
That's
not
my
job,
that's
your
job
and
if
that's
the
decision
of
counsel,
then
that's
a
matter,
but
I
feel
strongly
that
I
should
be
here
until
that
that
decision
happens.
Okay.
L
Well,
on
the
basis
of
councillor
owen
jones
comments
and
councillor
patterson's,
I'm
going
to
make
the
move
that
suggests
that
you
have
a
declarable
conflict
of
interest
and
that
you
should
leave
the
room
while
we
consider
the
matter
further
and
then
city
solicitor.
If
I
take
the
version,
that's
not
supported,
can
someone
else
move
a
different
outcome
whereby
councillor
toza
may
be
able
to
stay
in
the
room
and
participate
in
the
debate,
but
not
vote
on
the
matter.
For
example,.
G
I
appreciate
I'm
not
able
to
vote.
Can
I
call
the
division.
L
D
D
Just
a
question
with
that
resolution
that
does
that
then
allow
councillor
toaster
to
come
back
into
the
room
to
answer
questions.
L
L
L
L
L
So
feels
like
we've
already
done
the
hard
yards,
doesn't
it
okay
councillors,
so
the
matter
we
have
before
us
now
to
consider
relates
to
comments
made
by
the
mayor
following
a
finding
by
the
council
of
conduct
tribunal,
so
it
doesn't
relate
to
the
matter
at
the
conduct
tribunal,
which
was
decided.
L
I'm
going
to
open
four
questions
in
the
first
instance.
Does
anyone
have
any
questions
about
the
the
matter.
L
City
solicitor.
Can
I
also
just
confirm
that
we
don't
need
to
restate
our
declarations
in
relation
to
not
making
any
declarations,
because
are
they
covered
in
the
former
item
that
we
considered
for
councillor
mcdonald
in
relation
to
our
relationships
with
the
mayor.
L
I
L
D
Thanks
madam
chair,
with,
what's
happening
now,
just
make
a
statement,
because
I
this
is
why
I
made
my
my
submission
when
these
changes
were
made,
that
we
should
not
be
judge
and
jury
of
other
councillors,
and
we
see
now
today
how
difficult
it
is.
D
D
So
so
so
the
issue
is
that
with
councillor
toza,
he
complied
with
the
council
policy
at
the
time
when
the
decision
was
made,
and
the
mayor's
statement
here
of
the
12th
of
june
was
actually
after
that
incident.
D
Yeah,
but
the
thing
is
that
when
he
got
advice
from
the
ceo
and
when
he
made
his
decision
to
go
for
a
higher
education,
that
was
under
the
council
policy
at
the
time
and
this
decision
by
council
was
made
after
that
time,
so
he
complied
with
the
policy
at
the
time.
L
Can
I
just
ask
the
acting
ceo,
was
it
identified
within
the
policy
or
was
it
silent
in
the
policy.
M
Well,
I
just
want
to
check
deputy
mayor.
My
understanding
was
that
we
were
just
dealing
with
comments
that
followed
the
decision
correct,
and
we
had
already
probably
made
a
decision
about
the
original
issue
that
relates
specifically
to
the
policy
and
the
application
of
the
policy
as
council
mcdonald's
outlined.
So
I
just
want
to
my
comprehension
of
this
matter
is
relating
only
to
the
four
sentences
shall
we
say
which.
M
D
There
any
other
questions.
Can
I
just
answer
that
if
you
wouldn't
mind,
madam
chair,
the
reason
why
I
raised
that
is
because,
on
monday,
the
11th,
this
was
the
mayor's
statement
to
council
that
he
made
to
us.
L
J
So
I'm
interested
in
asking
mr
hold
a
question.
Mr.
J
Thank
you,
mr
holland.
Page
51
of
the
supplementary
agency
can.
J
L
J
On
page
51
of
the
supplementary
agenda,
there's
recommendations
to
the
local
government
and
the
date
of
the
recommendations
of
the
19th
of
august
2020
and
on
is
that
the
mayor
does
not
participate
in
the
councils
or
the
committee's
consideration
of
this
matter.
J
J
So
it's
dated
august
2020
and
one
of
the
recommend,
I
suppose
I'm
interested
in,
do
we
have
do
we
follow
recommendations
provided
by
the
tribunal
in
the
context
of
it
says
the
mayor
does
not
participate
in
the
council
or
the
committee's
consideration
of
this
matter,
and
the
mayor
is
clearly
left
the
meeting.
But
prior
to
doing
that,
he's
asked
for
something
to
be
read
into
the
record,
and
my
question
of
you
is
his
representative.
Is
that
in
contravention
of
that
recommendation,.
B
B
The
mayor's
thoughts
about
the
matter
were
that
after
he
read
the
recommendations
that
he
knew
that
he
could
not
participate
in
the
meeting,
but
that
he
would
like
all
councillors
to
be
informed
of
his
view
of
the
recommendation,
and
that
was
the
reason
that
the
document
was
prepared
and
it
was
my
understanding
that
it
might
have
appeared
in
the
agenda
for
this
meeting
as
with
the
papers,
but
it
didn't
and
that's
why
the
document
was
circulated.
I
think
yesterday.
D
Just
a
clarification
in
this
email
of
monday,
the
11th
I
just
wanted
to
read
out
and
it's
in
regards
to
the
may's
statement
to
council
in
this
email.
It's
in
a
in
accordance
with
the
investigation,
inappropriate
conduct
of
councillors
policy.
The
mayor
has
prepared
a
statement,
a
copy
of
which
is
attached
for
your
consideration.
L
Thank
you.
I
think
I
think
we
we've
got
that
and
we've
all
got
a
copy
of
that
statement
and
I
think
councilor
owen
jones
question
was
just
to
see
whether
it's
appropriate,
that
we
consider
that
additional
information
that's
been
provided
by
by
the
mayor.
So
are
there
any
other
questions.
F
Excuse
me
sorry,
playstation.
L
F
My
apologies
I
I
haven't.
I
had
missed
that
and
I
hadn't
read
that
note.
If
it's
something
that
I
should
read
to
consider,
then
I'd
just
like
to
have
a
couple
of
minutes
to
read
it.
L
L
L
L
L
The
fact
is
that
the
recommendations
from
the
tribunal
are
simply
recommendations
and
there's
no
requirement
for
the
council
in
relation
to
the
whole
series
of
recommendations
to
actually
endorse
those
recommendations.
It's
a
decision
for
you
councillors
today.
What
the
next
step
is
and
councillor
called
well
I'll,
go
to
you.
M
Well
thanks
deputy
mayor,
and
I
think
it
was
good
that
we
took
that
break
to
make
sure
that
all
councils
had
an
opportunity
to
absorb
absorb
all
of
the
material,
because
this
is
clearly
a
fairly
complex
and
important
matter.
As
all
of
these
disciplinary
matters
are
I've
sent
through
to
the
minute
secretary,
a
form
of
wording
for
an
alternative
outcome
to
that
which
was
published.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
think
I'm
reasonably
persuaded
to
second
the
motion,
but
I
did
want
to
ask
a
couple
of
questions
of
the
city
solicitor
to
be
perfectly
sure.
Okay,.
L
Sure
we'll
we'll
just
delay
if
we
could
get
the
motion
on
the
screen
for
councillors
to
absorb
please
and
in
the
interim
council
of
oyster.
Please
proceed
with
your
questions.
H
H
I
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
so
so
all
I
can
really
do
is
rely
on
the
report
and
make
some
reasonable
inferences
so
that
first
paragraph
under
the
conclusion
heading
says:
well
list
a
specific
date,
and
I
recognize
that
that
date
is
the
tribunal's
decision
and
not
the
date
of
the
press
conference
necessarily,
but
I'm
led
to
believe
that
it
was
a
one
engagement.
H
L
H
Yeah
so
madame
child,
not
sure
if
we
have
an
answer
on
that
first
question
we
may
and
I
think
I
can't.
I
H
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
so
I've.
For
me,
those
were
the
two
most
important
questions
to
ask
and
now
having
been
provided
that
information,
I'm
happy
to
second
that
motion
and
given
that
it
potentially
deals
with
a
a
decision
that
is
contrary
to
the
recommendation
of
the
cct.
M
M
Having
done
that
in
a
very
considered
fashion,
I
have
found
it
difficult
to
reconcile
the
decision
that
had
been
arrived
at
in
the
draft
recommendation
whereby,
in
the
one
single
course
of
action,
two
sentences
were
found
to
reach
the
threshold,
but
the
other
two
sentences
did
not
reach
the
threshold,
and
I
have
struggled
to
find
the
points,
and
this
relates
somewhat
to
what
council
voice
was
saying.
I've
struggled
to
find
the
actual
component
of
the
sentences
that
reach
the
threshold
as
against
those
that
didn't
that
put
them
into
separate
categories.
M
But
outside
of
that,
I
don't
feel
like
the
conduct
reaches
the
threshold
whereby
I
think
a
finding
of
inappropriate
conduct
is
warranted.
So
on
that
basis
I
have
put
forward
this
alternative
set
of
words,
and
I
will
see
what
my
colleagues
think
about
that.
As
a
thought
process.
L
Would
any
counsellor
owen
jones
so.
J
I'm
not
going
to
speak
against
it.
I'm
just
going
to
make
some
comments
if
that's
okay,
councillor
gates.
Firstly,
I
think,
ultimately,
the
tribunal
looked
at
four
comments
that
were
made
two
of
them
that
they
dismissed
and
then
they
effectively
returned
to
the
council
to
give
some
consideration-
and
I
think
it's
beholden
on
us
to
read
through
the
report
and
make
up
our
own
decisions
in
that
regards.
In
terms
of
the
third
statement,
I
think
I
can't
see
how
that
is
can
be
considered
to
be
an
appropriate
behavior.
J
I
think
that
it
is,
as
councillor
caldwell
said,
the
use
of
colorful
language,
which
the
mayor
is,
is
a
man
who
often
says
that
english
is
not
his
first
language
and
when
he
is
colorful
with
his
language,
he
can
be
colorful,
but
I
can't
see
the
offense
of
the
third
statement.
J
The
fourth
one
is,
in
my
view,
the
mayor's
opinion,
but
I
don't
think
it's
necessarily
inappropriate
conduct
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
be
mindful
of
is
the
consequences
to
an
elected
representative
of
a
series
of
inappropriate
conduct,
charges
being
upheld
and
effectively.
We
are
in
this
room
because
we
represent
people.
J
I
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
say
that,
and
I've
written
it
down
here
is
that
I
both
hated
and
loathe
it,
because
I
don't
think
that
it's
something
that
any
of
us
are
having
any
joy
in
doing
so,
but
I'm
I'm
actually
really
mindful
of
what
the
outcome
may
be
for
an
elected
representative
where
they
receive
three
inappropriate
conduct
issues,
and
then
that
becomes
misconduct
and
becomes
a
whole
different
set
of
criteria.
J
I
think
we
have
a
job
interview
once
every
four
years
where
the
community
makes
the
decision
in
regards
to
who
the
representative
should
be,
and
I
don't
think
that
it
actually
should
be
something
that
is
a
series
of
I'm
going
to
say
small
misconduct,
small
inappropriate
behaviour,
decisions
made
by
this
council
that
then
suddenly
turn
into
a
misconduct.
So
if
I
could
have
left
the
room
today,
I
would
have,
but
unfortunately
my
responsibility
is
also
to
be
in
the
room,
so
I
speak
in
favor
of
it.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
think
councillor
owen
jones
made
some
very
valid
points
very
valid
points
from
a
council's
point
of
view,
because
we
are
community
representatives
and
our
currency
is
effectively
our
reputation
in
our
communities
and
regrettably,
it
is
often
difficult
to
share
with
our
communities
a
big
corpus
of
information
about
a
matter
in
a
way
that
they
can
readily
accept.
H
In
other
words,
sometimes
we're
required
to
make
these
huge
decisions
that
require
a
lot
of
background
work,
a
lot
of
conversations,
a
lot
of
investigation,
but
ultimately
somebody
wants
a
yes
or
no
answer,
or
they
want
to
hear
in
one
sentence
what
the
outcome
was
and
in
a
lot
of
ways.
I
think,
as
elected
representatives,
we
get
caught
in
difficulty
when
translating
big
decisions
down
to
palatable
and
digestible
sound
bites,
as
it
were.
If
you're
working
through
the
media.
H
In
the
end,
I
was
uncomfortable
with
the
approach
taken
by
the
cct
to
separate
these
four
comments
and
look
at
only
two
in
isolation,
because
what
I
think
that
does
is
they
actually
rob
each
comment
of
context
which,
when
you
take
collectively
to
my
reading
as
a
hopefully
a
reasonable
person,
was
the
mayor
simply
saying
yep.
There
was
an
issue.
It
was
escalated
to
the
cct.
H
But
but
the
point
is,
to
my
mind,
what
occurred
in
that
moment
was
the
mayor
attempting
to
translate
a
very
complex
complaint
and
complaint
handling
process
into
something
that
could
be
understood
by
the
community
from
his
perspective,
and
I
think,
as
an
elected
representative,
that's
a
fair
enough
thing
for
him
to
do
so.
I
suppose
like
counselor
caldwell,
because
these
comments
were
considered
separately
and
because
there
is
not
to
my
way
of
thinking
enough
distinction
between
the
two
groups
and
because
I
feel
that
robs
the
mayor
of
his
ability
to
provide
a
full
translation.
H
I
H
L
Thank
you,
council
of
worcester
anything
further
from
councillors
in
I'll
go
back
to
councillor
corwell
in
a
moment
to
close,
but
I
would
like
to
make
the
comment
that,
in
councillor
owen
jones
speaking
to
three
inappropriate
conduct
charges
leading
to
a
misconduct
that
is
within
a
12-month
time
frame
should
that
occur,
and
it
is
then
at
the
tribunal's
discretion
to
make
a
recommendation
to
the
council
or
sorry
to
the
minister
for
dismissal.
L
So
in
considering
these
matters,
it's
really
important
that
we
recognise
what
can
ultimately
occur
and
this
the
significance
of
the
decisions
that
we're
making
and
I
think
it's
important
to
note.
The
mayor
has
a
pretty
quirky
personality
and
I
don't
know
how
many
media
releases
many
tens
of
thousands.
I
should
think
twelve
thousand
a
year
and
he
always
makes
himself
available
for
questions
and
you
don't
know
what's
coming,
and
sometimes
it's
pretty
hard
to
succinctly
respond
to
questions
when
you
have
a
microphone
in
front
of
you.
So
I
think
as
a
whole.
L
M
Thanks
deputy
mayor
and
look,
I
think
it's
been
a
useful
discussion.
I
trust
that
the
discussion
is
sufficient
in
terms
of
whatever
justification
or
support
is
needed
to
to
support
this
course
of
action,
and
you
know
look
just
reflecting
on
what
council
rowan
jones
mentioned.
It
is
extremely
difficult
for
us
to
be
the
ones
that
have
to
make
these
decisions,
but
I
feel
like
having
regard
to
all
of
the
material
that's
been
placed
before
us.
This
is
the
appropriate
course
of
action
on
this
particular
matter.
M
I
didn't
give
any
regard
to
the
three
strike
rule
that
you've
set
out
in
in
how
that
can
occur.
So
I
wouldn't
know
where
mr
mayor
is
up
to
on
the
school
card.
I
have
looked
at
this
matter
in
its
entirety,
but
as
a
single
piece
of
conduct
and
and
that's
why
I've
arrived
at
this
particular
recommendation.
L
Thank
you,
councillors
I'll,
take
the
vote
all
in
favor
and
we'll
call
the
division
thanks.
Mr
acting
mayor.
K
K
L
L
J
L
Thank
you.
Okay.
On
that
basis,
do
I
call
councillor
toza
back
to
close
the
meeting
councillor.
Toze
is
still
there
I'd
like
to
invite
him
back
while
we.