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A
So
we've
got,
as
does
everybody,
have
a
copy
of
the
supplementary
agenda
that
arrived,
yep,
so
councillors,
so
I'll
move
an
apology
for
councillor
hamill
seconded
councillor
gates,
all
in
favor.
Thank
you.
Everybody
else
is
here.
A
Despite
the
excitement,
we
don't
have
any
visitors,
there's
currently
three
four
start
items
and
two
unstarred
items.
So
would
anybody
like
to
unstar
any
items?
What
would
you
like
to
unstar
cancel
again.
A
The
forward
planning
the
community
facility
grants
yeah
yep.
B
I
simply
wanted
to
know,
and
it
was
just
me
being
nosy
really
what
the
various
projects
were.
There's
only
one
that
describes
what
the
project
was.
B
A
A
So
I
can
speak
to
the
one
in
division:
two,
which
is
the
96
000,
and
that
is
the
proposed
third
hall
for
the
helensvale
seniors.
Where
we
had.
I
had
allocated
some
local
area
works
towards
that
project
and
it
was
contingent
upon
the
local
state
member
for
theodore
being
able
to
come
up
with
a
state
government
grant
which
he
wasn't
able
to
do
because
he
hasn't
formed
government.
So
it.
A
C
So
project,
three,
two:
four:
seven:
six,
the
first
line
items
the
ormo
pimp
my
tennis
club.
The
project
was
delivered.
They
just
see
surplus
funds
for
the
underspend
line.
Two
probably.
C
So
the
leftover
funds
after
it's
been
delivered,
so
these
are
apart
from
the
two
in
division.
Two
they're
part
of
those
projects
that
have
been
closed
out
to
return
funds
for
historical
projects
line.
Two
is
the
kumara
hope
island
qriket
club
line.
Three
is
the
helensvale
senior
citizens
club
room
line?
Four
is
braveheart
soundproofing
and
line
five's
broad
beach,
bowls
club
lighting,
okay,
the
three
out
of
the
five
are
just
project
savings
being
returned
back
that
require
council
resolution.
A
Yeah
so-
and
I
think
that
it
was
it
bruce,
flick
was
managing
it
and
so
we'll
tidy
it
up
next
time
is
that
okay,
thank.
A
So
councillor
gates
is
moving
the
can
we
do
the
confirmation
of
minutes
as
part
of
that
or
do
we
need
to
do
that
separately?
Yeah,
so,
council
gates
the
confirmation
of
the
minutes,
the
forward
planning
schedule,
the
community
facilities,
grants,
additions
and
adjustments.
We
just
chatted
about,
and
the
community
grants
report
for
naidoc
and
seniors
month,
grant
program,
move
councillor
gates
second
and
councillor
taylor,
all
in
favor
carried.
Thank
you.
B
D
And,
and
through
the
chair
and
to
whoever
so
most
of
those
starred
ones
are
estimated
contract
value
changes,
are
they
significant
changes
or,
and
is
it
to
do
with
supply
and
all
at
all,.
E
Through
you,
mr
chair,
so
we
have
various
amendments
that
are
made
during
the
quarter.
So
it's
it's
a
summary
of
all
the
changes
made
during
the
quarter,
such
as
the
contracts
that
were
awarded
contracts
that
are
added
to
the
plan,
so
new
items,
and
we
also
advise
in
this
sort
of
the
attachment
one
all
contracts
that
are
currently
out
to
market
and
also
there
are
some
contracts
that
are
removed.
So
we're
no
longer
you
know
pursuing
that
strategy.
E
D
Yeah
so
you're
sort
of
comfortable
with
where
we're
sitting
at
the
moment
on
all
of
that,
because
I
know
through
audit
the
other
day,
which
was
something
that
came
up.
You
know
with
supply
chain
issues
and
all
that
sort
of
stuff
as
to
how
it's
going
to
affect
us
going
forward-
and
I
was
just
wondering
had
that
occurred
in
this
three
months.
E
Yes
through
mr
chair,
certainly
there
were
19
contracts
removed
and
I
believe
that
there
has
definitely
been
a
lot
of
activity
around
adjusting
budgeting
and
all
those
kind
of
including
all
those
impacts
of
supply
chain
in
their
activities.
So
that's
definitely
been
considered
and
would
be
starting
to
flow
through
some
of
these
changes.
D
And
the
19
con
sorry
through
the
19
contracts
that
were
removed
are
they
are
they
minor
contracts
or
something
that
we
would
anticipate.
E
I
can
provide
if
you
like,
the
19
list,
that
we
we
do
identify
them
here
by
their
code,
but
it
we
generally
have-
you
know
quite
a
few
so
that
through
changes,
it
might
be
that
they're
deferred
or
the
the
the
project
may
not
be
continuing
or
it
may
be
paused.
So
it's
pretty
standard
to
see
a
bunch
of
contracts
removed.
There's
about
19,
that's
pretty
typical
of
each
quarter.
D
B
Oh
sorry,
chairman,
I
couldn't
find
what
the
asterisks
did.
I
mean
the
asterisk,
are
they
the
changes
or
no
so.
E
Through
you,
mr
chair,
that
where
you
see
that
bold
asterisk,
that
what
that
is,
it's
flagging.
That
line
to
say
that
contract
will
be
referred
back
to
council
at
a
ward,
so
we're
just
flagging
that
th
they're
the
ones
that
will
be
coming
back
to
you
for
for
at
that
time
of
award.
So
we
might
have
a
significant
contracting
plan
that
sits
on
that
contract.
E
Where
council
has
already
provided
permission,
if
you
like
to
award
under
delegation,
but
typically
we
like
to
tell
you
which
ones
are
going
to
come
back
to
you.
E
The
contract
would
be
would
definitely
have
been,
you
know,
gone
through
their
tendering
evaluation
and
an
award,
but
but
we
would
actually
bring
it
back
to
you
for
for
a
review
or,
for
you
know,
a
decision
if
you
like
around
at
award.
A
Time
so
scott
can
I
just
clarify
there,
so
there
will
be
a
recommendation
for
it
to
be
awarded
or
a
recommendation
to
council
to
be
adopted
to
allow
it
to
be
awarded.
So
are
two
separate
things
in
my
mind.
One
is
a
decision
of
council
to
endorse
this.
The
city
officer's
recommendation
for
the
awarding
of
the
contract
or,
alternatively,
the
council,
noting
that
a
contract
has
been
awarded.
E
A
One
so
so,
today,
councillors,
the
way
I
saw
it
is
that
we
had
an
opportunity
if
we
wanted
to
to
identify
potentially
other
contracts,
that
you
would
like
to
see
to
come
towards
council
to
be
affirmed
effectively
by
the
council.
That's
correct
or,
alternatively,
if
there
were
any
of
these
start
items
in
regards
to
the
asterisks
that
councillors
may
have
felt,
didn't
need
to
come
back
to
council
to
be
affirmed.
That's
it
absolutely.
E
B
A
A
Yep,
so
councillors
is
there
an
appetite
to.
A
A
So
but
so
this
is
the
contract
plan
for
2122.
A
and
we're
currently
in
the
third
quarter
of
2122,
so
it
so,
I
suppose,
I'm
interested
in
knowing
whether
or
not
we
can
actually
do
what
councillor
gates
would
like.
Or
has
it
already
happened
because
quarter
two
is
gone
I'll.
E
Just
refer
to
you,
mr
chair,
to
officer
sandy,
who
has
the
information.
F
You're
right
sorry,
good
morning,
thank
you
through
you,
mr
chair.
So
what
happens
with
the
quarters
that
are
listed
within
the
ccp
they're
indicative
only
it
really
depends
on
the
progress
with
the
business
on
how
they're
pulling
their
scopes
together.
Sometimes
it
can
hinge
on
other
contracts
that
we're
working
on.
So
obviously,
we've
got
the
large
resource
and
recovery
contract.
That's
that's
going
through
evaluation.
At
the
moment.
So
often
you'll
find
a
contract
that
we
might
be
thinking.
We
were
going
to
get
ready
in
quarter
two
to
go
to
market.
F
It
may
be
delayed.
Generally.
We
don't
update
those
quarters
as
a
matter
of
course
of
these,
because
that,
because
they
adjust
all
the
time
so
generally
we
don't
we
don't
tend
to
so.
However,
if
councillor
gates
would
like
to
see
a
particular
item,
come
back
absolutely
we
can.
We
can
flag
it
as
that
and
have
that
amended
not
a
problem
at
all
generally,
what
we
do
is
the
ones
that
are
deemed
to
be
significant
and
they're.
F
The
ones
marked
with
the
asterix
they're,
the
ones
under
our
policy
where
we
say
it's
either
over
10
million
dollars
of
a
significant
nature
to
council
over
a
five-year
period,
always
come
back
to
council
as
well.
If
we're
entering
into
a
contract
that
extends
beyond
five
years.
That
always
comes
back
to
council
as
well.
So
we
use
that
as
the
benchmark
to
say
whether
automatically
we
would
ask
to
receive
it
or
not,
or
if
there's
a
particular
one,
that
a
counsellor
had
had
a
query
on
that.
They
would
like
to
see
more.
A
And
in
terms
of
so
we
kind
of,
I
don't
think
we're
sure
is
whether
or
not
with
the
bulk
curbside
collection,
the
invitation
to
offer
it's
not
gone
out.
Yet
it
hasn't
gone.
F
A
Yet,
do
you
need
to
in
your
documentation
when
you
send
it
out,
choose
your
words
to
allow
for
the
flexibility
of
time
for
it
to
come
through
the
committee
process,.
F
Yes,
so
as
part
of
our
planning,
when
we
actually
get
the
the
package
and
are
ready
to
go
to
market,
we'll
make
sure
when
we're
setting
all
the
timelines
for
that
particular
package,
that
we
would
make
sure
that,
if
council
has
asked
that
we,
we
bring
it
back
through
for
the
recommendation
to
be
adopted
that
we
would
actually
build
that
into
the
evaluation.
Time
frames
to
make
sure
we
have
time
to
do
that,
and
that
would
go
out
in
the
ito
document.
Okay,.
A
B
F
Through
the
chair,
no,
that
would
actually
more
be
if
we've
got
goods
that
we're
disposing
of
that
council
no
longer
requires.
So
at
the
moment,
we're
utilizing
an
existing
government
arrangement,
that's
in
place,
so
it
may
be.
We
may
have
put
it
on
hold,
because
the
business
has
actually
gone
well.
Do
we
now
really
have
the
need?
We
need
to
reassess
all
right?
Sometimes
it
can
be
because
there
may
be
legislative
things
like
a
native
title
thing,
or
something
like
that.
F
F
Thank
you
through
your
chair.
I
don't
have
any
particular
ones
to
add
here
and
good
to
see
that
ground
maintenance
is
asterixed.
F
I
just
had
a
a
kind
of
an
unrelated
question,
but
whilst
you're
here
we
have
had
a
discussion
numerous
a
few
times
and
I
know
you're
doing
some
work
on
the
the
commitment
to
looking
at
local
contractors.
Whenever
we
can.
F
There
was
the
the
corporate
plan
consultant
who
we
had
externally,
and
we
also-
and
I've
also
just
had
a
recent
one
brought
to
me
on
the
cbd
which
is
done
out
of
melbourne
now,
if
they
are
the
best
and
there's
reasons
why
there
isn't
a
local
group
that
can't
do
it.
But
I
just
wondered
if
you
could
give
an
update
on
that,
because
it
does
occur
as
odd
that
the
locals
didn't
really
get
an
opportunity
to
apply
for
those.
C
Yeah
through
you,
mr
chair,
that's
correct
and
yes,
92
of
our
current
contracts
within
the
city
are
locally
based.
The
commitment,
certainly
through
the
local,
buy
program.
Is
there
I
think,
and
we've
shared
this.
C
So
what
I'd
like
to
see-
and
certainly
what
we've
committed
to-
and
I
think
recently
had
that
discussion-
is
that
we
do
a
better
job
of
both
engaging
local
companies
that
can
do
the
work
also
take
our
blinkers
off
a
little
bit,
and
if
we,
if
we
do
understand
that
there
are
businesses
that
can
provide
those
services
potentially
to
approach
them
directly
to
be
part
of
that
process
and
also
take
a
more
critical
view
on
the
actual
tender
evaluations
themselves
as
to
whether
it's
local
services
provided
value
for
money,
quality.
F
And
again,
if
so,
when
do
you
think
that
that
would
be
able
to
be
done
because
it
occurs
from
from
what,
from
looking
from
my
perspective,
is
that
this
is
really
done
at
different
department
levels,
they're
kind
of
like
okay?
Well,
we
know
these
guys
we'll
go
with
this
and
it's
not
necessarily
coming
to
you
or
having
that
assessment.
So
so
how
are
you?
How
do
you
make
sure
that?
And
when
do
you
imagine
that
that
onboarding
retraining
would
occur?
Yeah.
C
Through
you,
mr
chair,
I'd
like
to
think
early
in
the
next
financial
year
we
do
have
to
re-educate.
You
know
we
do
have
to
re-educate
our
directorates
because,
like
being
reasonably
new,
I
concur
that
there
is
a
lot
of
that
going
on.
So
we
just
need
to
be
mindful
of
that
re-educate
and
and
then
go
out
to
the
local
buyers
themselves.
C
Sorry
sandy
did
you
yeah,
darren,
yeah,
thank
you
and
through
the
chair
I
think
it's
just
a
general
question
in
relation
to
our
current
contracts
and
obviously
inflation
in
the
last
two
years
of
supply.
Is
there
any
concern
with
any
of
our
current
contractors
with
that
are
in
the
midterm
of
contracts?
That's
flagging
concerns
with
their
contracts
and
their
rates,
particularly
scheduler
rates,
can
be
a
really
big
area
which
can
affect
contracts.
E
Moving
forward
through
you,
mr
chair,
thank
you
for
that
question.
Counselor
yeah,
there's.
E
Certainly
it's
something
that
we're
monitoring
on
an
almost
daily
basis
in
relation,
and
there
are
very
specific
areas
of
concern
around
things
like
fuel
in
particular,
so
we're
having
lots
of
discussions
with
our
current
suppliers
around
how
we
might
assist
with
some
relief
in
relation
to
taking
some
of
that
cost
there
as
well
in
relation
to
our
contracts,
are
very
firm
on
you
know
on
and
protecting
the
city's
interest,
but
we're
definitely
having
more
conversations
around
acknowledging
what
the
market
is
doing,
particularly
in
these
areas
of
fuel
and
steel
and
timber
and
those
kinds
of
conversations
and
working
working
with
those,
particularly
the
local
suppliers,
on
how
we
might
address
some
of
their
their
concerns
so
because
we
want
them
to
be
viable
as
well.
E
As
you
know,
in
a
very
harsh
environment,
but
also
protecting
you
know,
value
for
money
and
the
ratepayers
fund.
So
so
it's
that
fine
balance,
but
we're
definitely
open
to
discussions
and
we
are
monitoring
it
on
it
on
a
constant
basis.
At
the
moment,
we're
reasonably
comfortable
that
we're.
You
know:
we've
got
a
handle
on
where
the
risks
are.
Construction,
obviously,
is
an
area
where
the
margin
is
very
low.
E
So
that
will
be
a
watching
brief
in
relation
to
current
contracts
in
play
and
the
financial
viability
of
our
suppliers
that
we're
certainly
doing
a
lot
to
monitor
it
and
a
lot
to
talk
to
our
suppliers
and
a
lot
to
advise
the
business
of
anything
that
we
see
that
might
flag
that
there
might
be
a
you
know,
an
increased
risk
or
concern
with
a
particular
project
or
contract.
C
Thank
you.
So
if
we
did
find
a
contract,
that's
mid-term
and
there's
obviously
substantial
changes
in
the
contract
is
a
delegated
decision
to
increase
prices
or
other
cases
where
they
may
have
to
come
back,
go
back
out
to
tender
and
re-evaluate.
E
E
And
obviously
we
we
test
that
you
know
that
that
request
to
change
and
if
we're
in
a
position
where
we
are
able
to
vary-
and
we
agree
to
vary
we
we
can
do
so
and
we
do
on
occasions
it's
it
if
it
was
more
severe
an
impact
where
the
contractor
was
in
some
kind
of
stress
financial
stress
or
there
were
some
viability
concerns.
E
We
would
have
to
deal
with
that
on
case
by
case,
so
either
someone
else
taking
over
that
business
or
that
contract
is
an
option
or
obviously
some
sonic
contingency.
You
know
response
where
we
do
have
to
perhaps
go
back
and
visit
the
market
and
say
hey.
You
know
we
have
this
scenario,
so
we
haven't
had
that
yet
and
so
we're
we're
comfortable
that
we're
going
okay
at
the
moment.
D
F
Yeah
through
through
the
chair,
that's
primarily
for
our
tourist
park
operations
so
for
lifestyle
and
communities
directorate.
So
for
it's
all,
like
the
beds
in
all
the
tourist
parks
and
some
of
the
campgrounds
have
have
like
beds,
town
like
so
sheets
and
towels
and
and
and
that
sort
of
sort
of
thing
yeah.
So.
D
They
do
that
doesn't
come
under
those
people
that.
D
You,
the
other
one,
I'd
like
to
see
come
back
is
the
gold
coast,
various
services,
I
say
that's
going
to
be
awarded
under
delegation.
I
don't
know
how
everyone
feels
you
know.
I
think
that
should
be
something
that
comes
back
to
council.
F
Okay,
through
through
the
chair,
that
was
one
that
we
have
the
exis,
so
the
existing
contract
was
for
a
trial.
So
that's
that's
now
run
as
part
of
that
trial
contract.
There
was
the
opportunity
for
two
five
by
five
year:
sorry,
two
by
five
year
extension
provisions,
but
the
contract
needs
to
be
renegotiated
so
that
actually
came
back
to
council
just
trying
to
remember
when
it
was
only
in
the
in
the
last
two
months
or
so.
F
We've
actually
got
approval
to
go
and
start
negotiations
on
a
a
new
instead
of
a
trial
service.
It's
now
an
actual
service
with
that
one
one
provider.
So
I'm
trying
to
remember
there
was
actually
something
on
that.
B
D
Thank
you,
chair
and
page
21,
the
stage
two
commercial
dive
operations
for
wonder
reef,
and
I
note
that
it
says
revenue-based
contract
have
we
got
a
an
amount
that
we
think
we're
going
to
get
as
sorry
through
the
check.
D
D
And
my
second
question
again
to
do
with
that
same
item
there
is
and-
and
it
may
well
again
be-
the
same
answer-
is
that
with
this
contract
going
out
is
the
policing
of
all
people
that
are
actually
fishing
out
there,
because
it
is
actually
happening
and
it's
set
up
as
a
dive
reef.
So
we
imagine
that
we're
going
to
have
people
diving
there
and-
and
I
do
know
that
there's
a
lot
of-
I
guess
discarded
fishing
debris
in
that
under
there
at
the
moment.
So
is
that
contract
going
to
cover?
D
F
Right
through
mr
chair,
so
there's
a
couple
of
different
contracts
that
we're
looking
at
for
the
for
this
arrangement.
The
commercial
dive
operation
is
purely
for
them
to
conduct
the
commercial
dive.
There
is
also
a
separate
arrangement.
That's
been
entered
into
for
the
maintenance
of
the
reef,
so
that
will,
I
would
say,
would
definitely
take
up
some
of
the
whether
there's
their
lines
or
whatever
that
have
that
have
gone
down,
and
they
can.
F
They
can
deal
with,
however,
whether
it
the
policing
piece,
I'm
not
sure
on
so
am
I
able
to
take
that
on
notice
and
we
can
provide
that
information
back.
If
that's
true
can.
D
F
No,
that
was
it's
pa.
It's
gone
to
the
company
who
actually
subcontracted
to
the
builder.
It
made
sense
that
they
put
the
coral
in
that
they're
there
to
maintain
the
coral
and
make
sure
the
health
of
the
coral
for
the
next
12
months.
Okay,.
A
So
joe's
just
mentioned:
there's
some
regulatory
issues
around
that
as
well
and
and
clearly
the
it's
been
installed
and
we
want
it
to
be
a
success.
But,
like
I
mean
I
think,
there's
some
ongoing
surveillance
and
yeah.
D
D
So
and
I'd
be
interested,
you
know
just
because
this
is
going
to
be.
You
know
we're
always
talking
about
new
product
on
the
gold
coast,
and
if
this
is
going
to
be
a
new
tourism
product
that
we
actually
need
not
to
have
snags
up
front
straight
up,
we
sort
of
wanted
to
be
if
we're
launching
to
launch
yeah.
A
A
Thank
you.
Would
anybody
like
to
move
that
one
move
counselor
patterson
second
counselor
taylor,
anybody
like
to
counsellor
paterson?
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
it
or
we're
all
good
councillor
gates?
I.
B
A
Good
work
anybody
like
to
speak
against
sandy,
no
all
in
favor
carried.
Thank
you
councillors.
6.4
is
the
21
22
loan
requirements.
B
A
A
A
A
I
think
when
we
made
the
decision
we
we
knew
what
that
amount
was
going
to
be.
This
is
there's
no
way
other
than
to
do
it
as
we've
done
today,
which
was
actually
my
question.
C
A
A
So
councillor
taylor
spoke
to
me
briefly
before
the
meeting
regarding
a
proposal
for
a
general
business
item
that
councillor
vorster
was
interested
in
I've.
I've
just
asked
for
some
feedback
from
the
mayor's
chief
of
staff,
because
he
is
the
city's
spokesperson
and
I
I
suppose
my
initial
concern
is
what
that
might
mean
in
regards
to
our
spokesperson,
one
voice
approach
that
we've
had
in
terms
of
corporate
comms,
so
the
mayor's
chief
of
staff
hasn't
been
able
to
get
back
to
me
today.
A
So
my
preference
would
be
not
to
do
that
today
and
and
that's
not
saying
that
we
couldn't
potentially
do
it
in
the
next
round.
But
I
think
we
would
need
to
be
mindful
of
what
a
decision
to
change
that
external
communications,
because
ultimately,
we
clearly
agreed
to
stream
our
live
meetings.
We've
resourced
officers
in
an
appropriate
manner
to
enable
that
to
continue
to
happen-
and
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
we
all
agreed
with
the
step.
A
Further
of
being
able
to
create
clips
of
that,
I
don't
know
what
that
means
in
regards
to
cost,
and
I
don't
know
what
it
means
in
regards
to.
You
know
the
mayor's
been
pretty
clear
in
regards
to
a
city
spokesperson,
if
he's
not
available
the
the
acting
mayor
or
the
or
the
deputy
mayor
and
then
chairs,
so
I
suppose
we
just
need
to
be
mindful
as
to
what
that
may
mean,
and
then
there's
also.
A
I
spoke
briefly
to
mr
mccabe
about
whether
or
not
there's
an
interaction
in
terms
of
the
local
law
in
regards
to
meetings
and
the
the
use
of
material.
So
and
it's
a
bit,
it
appears
to
be
a
bit
silent,
but
I
think
we
just
want
to
make
sure
before
we
explored
it.
We
knew
what
it
meant
in
regards
to
dollars
and
impact,
and
I'm
happy
to
be
the
one
lucky
enough
to
tell
council
of
worcester
that,
but
he
hadn't
chatted
to
me
about
it
beforehand.