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A
Good
morning
councils
gives
me
great
pleasure,
as
your
chair
of
lifestyle
and
Community,
to
welcome
you
to
the
825th
round
and
today,
of
course,
we
have
the
lifestyle
and
Community
committee
meeting.
Let
me
acknowledge
to
our
director
self
entwine.
What's
this
meeting
three
meeting
three,
this
is
what
we
all
say
good
morning:
Mr
twine.
A
You
know
at
councils
we
have
a
very
slim
agenda
on
today.
It
doesn't
mean
that
there's
not
a
lot
of
important
work
happening.
I.
Think
next
round
is
going
to
be
particularly
robust.
We've
got
a
new
sports
and
activity
plan
that
will
require
quite
a
bit
of
heavy
lifting
at
committee,
but
today,
let's
turn
our
attention
to
the
work
of
the
committee.
We
have
as
our
first
item
attendance
and
apologies
I've
received
none
else's.
Are
you
aware
of
any
others?
A
A
No,
we
can
potentially
leave
that
as
starred
the
Ford
program.
5.1
presently
start
counsels.
Any
questions
on
that
item.
No
we'll
leave
that
as
start
6.1,
our
local
area
Works
program
editions.
That's
on
page
24..
Any
questions
on
that
counselors
now
we'll
leave
that
as
starred
Council
Gates
understand,
you
have
a
a
question
on
6.2.
B
It
just
related
to
the
process
for
the
sale
of
this
land.
I
noted
under
the
budget
and
funding
at
all
costs
to
be
borne
by
the
applicant,
which
is
fine,
but
I
wondered
about
the
valuation
and
whether
we're
just
going
to
accept
the
applicants
valuation.
Are
we
going
to
appoint
someone
to
get
an
evaluation
on
behalf
of
council
and
how
that
will
unfold
and
why
it
wasn't
done
in
advance
of
this
report.
C
And
director
please,
through
the
chair,
Council
Gates,
we
are
going
to
get
our
own
Council
valuation
I
believe
we
actually
have
a
pretty
good
idea
of
that
Tony.
You
might
want
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
further.
D
Through
the
thank
you
director
through
the
chair,
look,
we
expect
it
to
be
quite
a
small
amount.
The
resolution
to
C
actually
refers
to
the
fact
that
we
will
actually
go
to
evaluation
and
the
reason
why
we
haven't
done
it
as
yet
is
we
need
it?
We,
we
absolutely
needed
a
council
resolution
for
this
to
occur
and
we
didn't
want
to.
We.
We
wanted
to
manage
expectations
with
regards
to
the
applicant
councilor
Gates
anecdotally.
This
could
be
as
less
as
ten
thousand
dollars
a
very
small
amount.
Okay,.
A
Okay,
councilors
any
questions
on
that.
Any
proposed
changes
no
problem
happy
to
leave
that
as
starred
6.3,
successful
transition
to
new
Bushfire
Hazard
mitigation,
Service
delivery
model
phenomenal
work
done
by
City
officers,
because
we've
considered
this
item
quite
at
length.
I'm
happy
to
start
that
council's
happy
with
that
yep
happy
days,
which
leaves
us
with
7.1
radio
frequency
information
device,
contract
award
and
other
Library
technology.
Services
again
councils
I've
met
extensively
with
city
offices
over
a
long
period
of
time,
very
personally
comfortable
with
the
approach
taken
here.
A
A
Every
day,
we're
shuffling
all
right
yeah,
please
no,
of
course,
the
Council
of
also
right
to
the
state
government.
No
well,
we've
got
until
one
o'clock
so.
B
Oh
no
I'm,
just
confused
front
I
already
raised
I
already
raised,
is
with
you
councilor
vorster
I
was
going
to
talk
about
the
two
wheels
up.
Two
wheels
down
problem
and
I
did
raise
it
with
councilor
vorster
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
he
reminded
me
that
I
should
send
it
to
TNI,
because
even
though
it's
community
services
that
do
the
upholding
of
the
law,
it's
something
that
transport
and
infrastructure
manage
so
I'm.
Sorry
I
was
just
filling
the
Gap.
A
No,
no
look
I
think
it's
worth
doing
that
at
our
next
committee.
I
only
had
a
gentleman
in
my
office
yesterday
quite
aggrieved
with
the
fact
that
he
was
issued
with
a
warning
pin.
So
it
was
zero
dollars.
He
wasn't
actually
fined
and
he
made
it
quite
plain
to
me
that
he
thought
it
was
common
sense
for
residents
to
be
able
to
address
congestion
issues
by
parking
up
on
the
nature
strip.
A
I,
don't
necessarily
hold
the
view,
because,
quite
often
there
are
things
like
storm
water
pipes
that
run
inside
nature
strips
and
when
people
Park
up
on
nature,
strips
particularly
non-locals
I've
known
those
things
to
crack
tree
roots,
get
in
there
and
then
homes
get
flooded
so
be
very
interested
and
have
a
fresh
look
at
the
issue
and
also
understanding
whether
we're
able
to
permit
the
behavior
in
built
up
areas
all
together
because
of
the
interaction
with
the
road
rules.
Yeah.
B
I
get
that
this
poor
person
that
contacted
me
recently
had
received
five
infringement
notices
for
parking
two
wheels
up
so
parked
four
wheels
down
on
the
roadway
and
had
their
side
mirror
swiped
off
it
within
a
week.
So
it's
a
curving
Road,
it's
billinghurst
Crescent
at
kumara
upper
kumara
and
it's
one
of
those
real
tricky
things.
I
think
it's
the
state
regulation.
Isn't
it.
A
And
I
sort
of
pulled
out
that
guide
to
safe
and
loopless,
safe
and
livable,
safe
and
legal
parking
tips
to
walk
through
it.
With
this
gentleman,
the
online
version-
and
his
point
was
that
look
if
I
park
on
the
road
and
my
neighbor
across
the
road
also
parks
on
the
road,
then
nobody
can
get
through
I'll
explain
to
him.
Well,
in
that
case,
it's
the
second
vehicle.
That's
actually
broken
the
road
rules,
because
you
need
to
leave
a
clear
way
and
then
I
thought
to
myself.
A
Hang
on
a
second
I
didn't
verbalize
this
to
him,
because
you
know
I'm
defending
the
policy
as
it
stands.
But
then
I
thought
to
myself.
How
would
a
parking
officer
know
which
was
the
second
vehicle
that
arrived
yeah?
So
once
you
start
pulling
at
the
thread,
it
can
become
very
Thor
and
then
I
thought
to
myself.
A
Well,
maybe
there
should
be
a
way
that
people
can
park
up
on
the
nature
strip
if
they're
parking
on
their
own
nature
strip,
because
the
problem
is
with
visitors
or
you
know,
non-locals,
potentially
damaging
underground
infrastructure
and
trees
and
all
the
rest
and
then
I
realized
hang
on
a
second.
Our
parking
team
have
no
way
of
accessing
the
TMR
data
that
takes
registration
and
pins
it
yeah
so
yeah
it
is
a
a
real
mess
and
maybe
a
report
can
at
least
give
us
some
clarity
on
what
we
can
and
cannot
do
so.
Okay,.
B
E
It's
Lucy
later
just
thinks.
Chaz
is
talking
to
the
director
this
morning
about
parking,
both
the
parking
permits
in
the
time
zones,
similar
kind
of
thing
where
people
are
wanting
to
park
on
this
street
with
it
or
to
receive
a
resident
permit.
E
But
the
issue
is
the
interpretation
of
the
ruling
we've
got
at
the
moment
from
that
permitting
team
is
that
the
driveway
counts
as
a
dedicated,
concrete
slab
for
parking
now
in
a
practical
sense
that
doesn't
work
because
it
prohibits
vehicle
movements
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
that
was
just
something
I
was
taking
Clarity
on
from
the
director.
I,
wasn't
sure
if
that's
one,
that's
impacted
anyone
else
in
terms
of
Permitting
things.
It
applies
specifically
to
the
health
and
knowledge
Precinct
in
Parkwood,
yeah,
driveway.
B
Not
so
long
ago,
and
it
related
to
duplex
owners
wanting
five
car
parking
spaces
or
permits,
or
what
have
you,
and
so
we
reviewed
it
very
thoroughly
through
the
offices
and
we
came
to
an
agreed
policy
on
it.
I
can't
recall
what
changed,
but
it
was
a
problem
here
within
the
two-hour
bundle
Precinct
that
had
been
raised
where
someone
had
a
double
garage
and
room
for
two
cars
on
the
driveway
as
well
and
still
wanted
on
street
parking,
and
the
officers
said.
B
No,
that's
not
the
intent
of
the
license
for
on
street
parking
because
they
had
sufficient.
It
was
considered
so
I.
A
You
know
into
difficult
conversations
when
people
seek
permits
or
seek
the
ability
to
park
on
the
nature
strip,
but
the
garage
has
been
converted
into
a
home
office
or
a
gym
Studio
or
a
self-storage
Center
and
people
I,
think
post-original
development
application
feel
as
though
garages
in
our
versatile
spaces,
rather
than
places
for
vehicles
to
be
stored,
and
it's
very
difficult,
very,
very
difficult.
A
A
G
Sorry,
have
you
had
a
question
before
okay
right
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
something
that
that
Donna
said
and
I'm
just
wondering
whether
and
it's
one
of
those
difficult
ones
whether
that
matter
actually
should
be
coming
here
rather
than
transporting
infrastructure.
For
the
simple
reason,
as
you
say
that
it
is,
you
know
from
a
regulatory
point
of
view,
because
what
most
of
this
conversation
seems
to
have
been
around
you
know
the
the
local
law
as
such,
so
I'm
wondering
if
it's
more
fitting
to
come
here.
A
Over
both,
obviously
it
does,
and
the
councilor
Castro
I
did
get
some
formal
advice
on
which
committee
it
should
go
to
when
councilor
Gates
and
I
originally
spoke,
and
it
was
very
clear.
It
should
be
TNI.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
director
but
I
think
it's
because
of
the
interaction
with
the
State
Road
Rules.
G
A
A
Yeah
I
think
they
should
play
as
council's
enforcement
of
those
rules.
Yes
right,
the
rules
are
sit
with
TNI,
but
it's
the
issuing
of
the
tickets
yeah.
That's
it
with
us.
Yeah
councilman,
councilor,
Belden
lumson,
thanks.
D
Chair
when
we
had
the
blitz
just
recently
on
Verge
parking,
I
have
been
told
that
there
is
an
officer
in
TNI
I,
guess
that
is
looking
at,
say:
Verge
parking
and
signage
to
go
with
that
and
I've
put
forward
a
particular
area
in
my
division
that
they're
looking
at
I
think
favorably.
That's.
A
Good
and
I
think
councilor
tells
you
had
a
good
experience
recently
with
some
signage
overriding
rules
that
would
otherwise
apply
in
non-built
up
areas.
Is
that
right.
H
Correct
so
we
have
a
a
park
that
is
commonly
used
as
an
off-leash
dog
era
and
an
equine
activity
area,
which
is
this
very
strange
combination
of
the
best
of
times,
but
unfortunately,
parking
enforcement
officers,
patrolled
in
that
area
and
started
issuing
tickets
for
the
cars
with
horse
trailers
quite
appropriately
parked
on
the
verge.
And
then
we
worked
closely
with
transport
and
infrastructure
to
get
a
Verge
permit.
Even
though
that
was
the
informal
and
incumbent
Arrangement
that
had
been
in
place
for
many
many
years.
H
You
know
the
actions
of
the
parking
enforcement
officer
compelled
us
to
to
formalize
that
with
signage,
so
we're
now
exploring
that
option
in
a
number
of
places
where
you
know
there
isn't
an
impact
on
residents,
but
we've
actually
effectively
delivered
a
park
where
people
need
to
be
able
to
park.
So
there
isn't
when
there
isn't
enough
room
or
there
isn't
appropriate
width
of
the
road
to
accommodate
on-road
parking.
H
It's
correct
so
there
was
at
least
100
meters
between
two
homes:
yes,
and
it
was
a
rural
residential
zone,
so
street
lights
weren't
within
100
meters
either.
So
there
was
a
all
of
the
metrics
inside
the
state
regulation
that
Define
what
a
non-built
up
area
were
met
yep
and
we
were
able
to
deliver
that
Birch
parking
permit.
A
H
You
know,
pressure,
isn't
the
right
word,
but
I
I
had
asked
some
fairly
pointed
questions
about
whether
the
rural
residential
acreage
areas
was
really
a
high
priority
for
parking
offices.
Even
when
a
complaint
was
made.
What
you
know
we
have
sparse
resources
in
that
area
and
was
that
exactly
the
right
place
where
we
needed
to
be
allocating
our
resources
and
since
that
season
of
difficulty,
we've
seen
a
significant
reduction
in
the
number
of
Patrols
in
rural
residential
areas
and,
frankly,
I
think.
That's
because
there
are
lots
of
other
higher
volume.
B
Thanks
Jim
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
it's
good
to
get
clarification
around
that
signage
being
available
only
in
rural
or
rural
residential
areas,
because
it
did
result
in
an
influx
to
my
office
of
people
who
live
in
narrow
developments
and
one
in
particular
kumara
Shores,
which
was
one
of
the
first
villages
developed
at
kumara,
and
it
has
pretty
narrow
streets
and,
of
course,
they've
now
said,
it's
adjacent
to
a
boat
ramp.
B
So
people
have
boats
and
properties
that
can't
properly
house
the
boats
on
some
occasions,
and
so
they
ask
could
they
have
signage
installed,
which
permitted
them
to
park?
Two
wheels
up
two
wheels
down,
so
it's
good
to
have
clarified
that
that
it
is
certainly
not
being
considered
in
those
types
of
areas
and
I.
Think
also
I.
Just
wanted
to
add
that
my
experience
about
needing
Patrols
in
rural
residential
areas
mainly
relates
to
the
parking
of
heavy
or
long
Vehicles,
because
that
is
Rife
in
many
of
the
areas
where
there
are
large
blocks.
B
So
you
know
we
still
have
a
need
for
that
to
be
patrolled
for
the
amenity
of
most
residents,
but
I
get
what
councilor
toes
is
saying
about
his
issue.
H
Do
you
think
we
don't
passive
issue
with
heavy
vehicles
or
long
vehicles
in
our
ericos
and
I?
Couldn't
recall
a
time
where
I've
had
a
significant
complaint
about
that
and
so
I'm
pretty
happy
with
at
the
moment,
whilst
Canada
Gates
might
have
unique
issues
in
her
division
in
my
division
there
are
really
targeted
places
where
we
locked
parking
enforcement
to
be
to
done
and
that
that's
really
around
the
first
Park
area
on
special
event
days
and
then
the
mudra
bar
Village
Precinct,
where
the
Suburban
environment
is.
A
Oh
council's
councilman,
Jones
Adam.
F
Said
could
I
just
ask
a
question
through
you
to
the
director
in
regards
to
the
city
offices
and
how
they
go
about
programming
in
particular,
weekend
patrols,
which
is
and
I
was
harder
here
from
the
chair
that
there
were
nil
penalty
infringement
notices
issued?
F
Is
it
methodical
in
the
context
that
so
I
recently
had
an
area
in
in
oxenford
near
maudsland
the
the
on
covenco
Drive,
where
they
went
through
on
a
Sunday
with
the
car
and
to
me
it
would
be
interesting
to
know
how
often
the
car
had
visited
and
whether
or
not
there
should
be
a
program
that,
in
part,
is
about
issuing
nil,
enforce
nil
penalty
infringement
notices
where
it's
been
a
ad
hoc
drive
through
an
area
that
they
haven't
been
through
for
for
years?
If
that,
if
that
makes
sense,.
C
C
My
discussions
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
were
that,
should
we
come
across
the
examples
that
have
played
out
in
previous
months?
We
we
issue
warnings
first
and,
and
we
engage
in
an
education
process-
that's
been
well
received
by
the
officers
who
understand
that
it's
better
to
take
the
community
on
the
journey.
People
may
not
realize
that
they
are
actually
running
foul
of
our
local
laws
by
their
behavior.
C
So
the
early
feedback
that
we've
got
from
the
last
couple
of
weeks
is
that's
been
well
received
and
I'm
aware
of
feedback
coming
through
several
counselors
offices
and
I
think
you
mentioned
it
also
chair
this
morning
that
you've
had
someone
who's
received
a
warning
rather
than
a
infringement
notice
straight
up.
So
that's
a
better
process.
I'm
still
not
entirely
comfortable,
I
guess
with
the
methodology,
as
applies
to
deployment
of
license
plate
recognition
vehicles.
C
Certainly,
my
intention
is
that
they
be
applied,
as
has
been
agreed,
with
transport
and
infrastructure
to
the
more
urban
areas,
where
it's
much
more
clearer
where
that
technology
can
be
appropriately
applied,
without
necessarily
the
gray
areas
that
we've
experienced
around
some
of
these
wide
Suburban
verges.
So
that
has
been
the
practice
in
the
past
six
weeks
and
it
seems
to
be
working
a
lot
more
effectively.
But
there's
a
report
still
coming
back
to
me
internally
around
the
deployment
of
of
those
assets.
F
Through
you
to
the
director,
and
my
understanding
is
when
a
nil
penalty
enforcement
notice
is
issued
to
a
number
plate
on
a
car
that
that
there
can't
be
a
second
nil
penalty,
infringement
notice
issued
to
the
same
vehicle
for
the
for
the
fence,
the
offense
that
it
was
warned
I'd,
be
interested
in
having
that
confirmed.
B
Thank
you
just
one
last
question:
with
the
park
safe
Vehicles,
do
the
officers
take
them
home
and
then
travel
to
and
from
work,
or
do
they
have
to
come
into
the
Depot
or
Council
to
collect
that
vehicle?
Oh
it's.
H
I
wasn't
aware,
when
Mr
chyn
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
the
change
in
approach
and
I'm,
really
grateful
about
that.
I
think
you
know.
In
our
office
we
found
the
the
actual
administrative
burden
with
managing
Community
expectations
when
there
was
a
little
bit
of
gray
area
around
the
the
law
and
or
the
state
regulation,
because
I
think
there
is
a
little
bit
of
subjective
interpretation
about
how
long
is
100
meters.
What
does
it
looked
like
you
know?
H
It's
been
really
a
very
positive,
particularly
in
the
last
six
weeks,
and
and
our
administrative
burden
has
dropped
significantly
in
that
realm.
As
a
result
of
that
change
in
approach-
and
that's
that's
saved
the
right
pay
of
money
and
time,
we've
been
able
to
focus
our
resources
and
other
things
I'm,
assuming
probably
the
customer
call
centers
probably
experienced
that
same
thing.
Whilst
you
may
not
have
seen
that
in
the
transport
department
or
in
the
parking
enforcement
department,
we've
definitely
seen
that
in
the
amount
of
queries
we're
calling
about
that
not
yeah
a.
B
B
Did
I
I
was
simply
going
to
ask
if
someone
who
is
on
transport
and
infrastructure
might
like
to
raise
a
general
business
item
today,
because
I'm
not
on
that
committee,
but
I,
think
it's
something
that
we
would
value.
Seeking.
Further
advice
from
the
state
about
the
possibility
of
relaxing
that
two
wheels
up
two
wheels
down
low
I'll.
A
Thank
you,
I
think
a
good
play
I
mean
instinctive
yeah.
Absolutely
this
Con,
this
debates,
the
one
to
be
had
at
TNI
I,
mean
instinctively
I
I,
think
there'd
be
more
warts
on
the
issue,
pursuing
change
with
the
state
without
understanding
what
the
current
problems
are.
A
So
I
would
imagine
a
two-step
process
where
we
get
a
report
back
which
sets
out
options,
and
then
we
can
resolve
to
go
to
the
state.
I
think
a
good
place
to
start,
though,
is
and
I'm
not
sure.
If
this
is
for
us
or
for
TNI
is
we
do
have
that
safe
and
legal
parking
tips?
Booklet
it'd
be
really
good
if
that
booklet
indicated
with
a
label
whether
this
was
a
council
rule
or
a
road
rule,
unlike
per
offense,
so
that
we
could
show
the
community
who
might
be
complaining
about
an
issue?
A
C
Jay,
that's
an
initiative
that
we
started
in
ti,
so
it
would
be
a
TI
responsibility
to
make
those
amendments
and
it
is
really
timely
to
do
another
version
of
that
booklet.
So
I
think
that
is,
that
is
appropriate.
The
other
thing
you
might
be
aware
of,
if
you've
been
watching
the
news
recently,
is
that
quite
a
few
other
jurisdictions
are
experiencing
the
same
issue.
There
was
quite
a
big
report
on
one
of
the
news
channels.
Last
week,
I
think
it
was
Ipswich
the
same
sort
of
issue.
F
If
you
want
to
Puff
out
your
meeting,
all
you
need
is
a
general
business
discussion
about
how
councilors
can
better
represent
in
regards
to
penalty
infringement
notices
by
door,
knocking.
A
Yeah
yeah
wearing
out
a
shoe
leather.
The
director
and
I
had
a
chat
about
the
way
Park
safe
Works,
which
is
what
it's
kind
of
talking
to
in.
In
this
conversation
and
the
new
approach
and
related
to
the
director
that,
quite
often,
if
I
have
pockets
of
the
community
that
are
concerned
about,
you
know
irregular
parking
behavior.
Let's
call
it
that
I'll
often
survey
an
area,
a
catchment
with
a
copy
of
the
safe
and
legal
parking
guide
and
I.
Ask
people.
A
Look
before
I
raise
a
CR
to
request
regular
Patrols
in
your
area.
Please
read
this
booklet
and
take
note
that
you
may
be
fined
for
parking
up
on
the
nature
strip
parking
in
your
own
driveway.
If
you
overhang
past
your
letterbox
on
and
so
forth,
and
without
fail
funnily
enough
without
fail,
the
community
always
votes
for
that
enforcement
to
be
carried
out.
A
They
always
vote
for
it
to
be
carried
out
and
when
there
are
people
who
have
been
fined
because
they've
parked
up
on
the
verge
I'm
in
a
strong
position
to
be
able
to
say
look,
this
is
the
way
you
and
your
neighborhood
or
not
you,
but
your
neighborhood
wishes
to
manage
parking
and
you've
done
it
with
all
of
the
information
at
hand
and
so
like
councilor,
toza
foreshadowed.
The
administrative
burden
drops
because
people
understand
it's
like
community-led
service
standards,
but
it's
always
only
at
an
estate
level.
H
This
is
not
an
imposter
and
I
can
appreciate
that
in
places
like
banogan
Valley,
where
people
are
living
on
4
000
square
meter
blocks
with
large
frunges
and
eight
to
you
know
eight
to
twelve
meter,
frontages
they're
going
to
have
a
totally
different
approach
than
Varsity
Lakes
on
on
Varsity
parade
or
or
North
Lakes,
Drive
or
whatever,
where
you
know
the
the
congestion
is
unbelievable
and
actually
really
quite
unsafe,
whereas
it
is
in
my
area
it
is
there
like
looked
at
would
be
fair.
There
was
an
enforcement,
so
it's
quite
paper.