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00:00 Meeting Commences, Attendance/Apologies, Leave of Absence, Confirmation of Minutes, Conflict of Interest Declarations, Committee Forward Planning Schedule
03:00 Reports and Presentations 6.5
03:57 Report 6.1 and Supplementary Report 6.6
28:35 Report 6.2
49:00 Meeting Adjourned
1:06:45 Meeting Recommenced, Report 6.2
1:14:50 Report 6.3
1:54:00 Report 6.4
2:00:00 Closed Session General Business 8.1
2:06:15 Open Session, General Business 8.1
A
B
I'm
good
but
fighter
about
fire
ants,
but
I'm
good
I'm.
Glad
that
you
and
I
got
the
same
memo
on
clothing,
which.
A
C
D
Hey
good
morning
and
congratulations
on
your
appointment,
counselor
looking
forward
to
working
with
you
in
this
role
and
I'm
very
well.
Thank
you.
E
All
and
I'm
sure
I
got
more
sleep
than
you
counselor
Hamel,
and
congratulations
on
your
newborn
very
excited.
Thank.
A
Tanya
William
Matthew
the
three
people
watching
the
live
stream.
Good
to
see
you,
okay,
so
we'll
kick
off.
Attendance
apologies
I,
have
apologies
from
councilor,
Donna,
Gates
and
councilor
Pauline
young
and
we
were
moving
councilor
Caldwell.
A
So
do
I
have
a
mover
for
those
apologies,
councilor
Peter,
Young
seconded
Council,
Aaron
Jones,
all
in
favor,
that's
carried
councilor
Patterson!
You
don't
vote
on
this
one.
But
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
vote.
Anyway.
Leave
of
absence
is
Neil.
Confirmation
of
the
minutes
do
I.
Have
anyone.
Everyone
happy
with
the
minutes
of
the
previous
meeting
cool,
so
move
a
counselor
O'neill
seconder
for
the
minutes,
councilor
Peter
Young!
Thank
you
all.
Those
in
favor,
very
good.
That's
in
minutes
past,
ladies
and
gents.
All
items
have
a
star
against
them.
At
the
moment.
C
Owen
Jones
6.2,
so
I
can
vote
against
it
very
good.
G
A
Yeah,
okay
and
we
need
to
unstar
6.6
because
we're
going
to
have
the
presentation
as
part
of
that
and
the
recommendation
so
to
remove
to
move
there.
So.
A
D
Well,
this
reflects
a
discrepancy
that
was
picked
up
in
the
mapping
process
and
it's
a
quick
return
now,
a
report
to
us
that
identifies
a
procedure
to
hopefully
ensure
that
that
kind
of
error
doesn't
enter
into
the
process
again
in
the
future
and
I'm
grateful
for
it.
Thanks
chair.
A
A
H
H
All
right-
yes
thanks
councilor,
so
sorry
to
introduce
myself
first
I'm,
Scott
and
I'm
here
to
present
to
6.1
and
6.6,
which,
as
I
said,
both
relate
to
one
development
which
for
multiple
dwellings
and
short-term
accommodation
at
39
and
41
McLean,
Street
yeah.
So
during
your
rates,
yeah
I
presented
both
items
but,
as
I
said,
we'll
be
resolving
item
6.6
before
we
resolve
item
6.1
to
clear
it's,
a
material
change
of
use
for
a
new
practice,
accessible
development
for
multiple
dwellings
and
short-term
accommodation
for
58
units.
H
The
application
is
triggered
impact
assessment
due
to
the
proposed
Building
height.
The
proposed
building
sort
of
building
High
designation
is
38
meters
and
sorry.
The
early
High
designation
for
the
site
is
38
39
meters,
while
the
development
presents
a
maximum
Building
height
of
55.5
meters.
H
This
is
the
proposal
here
you
can
see.
This
is
a
perspective
taken
from
McLean,
Street
and
Musgrave
sort
of
corner.
H
H
It
includes
a
mixture
of
two
or
three
bedroom
units,
varying
with
varying
layouts
within
the
17-story
tower
it'll,
be
supported
by
three
level
basement
communal,
open
space
areas
located
on
levels,
2,
16
and
17,
which
total
302
square
meters
development
will
be
accessible
via
a
double
crossover
from
Musgrave
Street
and
provide
59
residential
car
parking
spaces.
That's
obviously
one
per
unit,
with
the
exception
of
the
uppermost
unit,
which
will
have
two
car
parking
spaces
allocated
to
it.
There
will
be
six
car
park
producer
car
parking
spaces.
H
This
outcome
meets
the
acceptable
outcome
for
the
transport
code
for
multiple
dwellings
and
short-term
accommodations
land
uses
within
the
center
Zone.
The
podium
level
present
site
cover
of
77
and
the
sorry
the
podium
has
yeah,
so
the
podium
has
77
and
the
tower
is
53.
The
proposed
density
is
one
bed
per
6.7
square
meters.
The
setbacks
vary
across
the
levels,
however,
provider
built
to
boundary,
Podium
and
ground
level
interface.
H
Before
the
tower
moves
back
to
1.6
from
the
the
street.
The
side
present
generally
four
meter
setbacks
to
both
sides
at
3.5
meters
to
the
rear,
the
proposed
short-term
accommodation.
They
do
supplies
to
all
30
58
units
providing
future
unit
owners
with
the
ability
to
lawfully
rent
these
units
to
Holiday
makers
through
Airbnb
and
those
sorts
of
avenues.
H
It's
comprising
of
two
lots,
which
you
can
you
can
see
there
39
and
41
McLean
Street,
totaling
984
square
meters
has
an
angulated
Frontage
of
29
meters,
it's
generally
flat
and
vacant,
with
the
exception
of
a
that,
the
singular
building
there,
which
is
currently
being
used
as
a
sales
office
for
a
nearby
development
there's
an
existing
easement
that
extends
along
the
western
Southern
boundaries,
presenting
a
3.5
meter
width
and
that
provides
access
to
car
parking
spaces
located
at
the
property
located
to
the
rear,
22
Garrick
Street.
H
H
Looking
more
broadly
to
the
the
local
area
and
the
zoning
said,
the
zoning
is
in
the
the
center
Zone
it's
right
on
the
sort
of
edge
of
the
core
area
of
cool
and
gather,
which
is
the
one
of
our
major
centers
within
the
center
hierarchy,
medium
density,
residential
extends
to
to
the
West,
and
obviously,
we've
got
the
coolangatta
beach
front
and
Kerry
Hill
further
north
directly.
Joining
the
site
to
the
north
is
a
vacant
lot.
However,
there
is
a
current
live
D.A.
H
On
that
side,
the
site
to
the
South
is
a
single
story.
Medical
Center,
the
development
to
the
to
the
rear,
which
is
to
the
West,
includes
a
four-story
walk-up,
older
style
development
and
to
the
east
is
the
core
area
of
the
coolangatta
center.
H
So
careful
I've
got
some
perspectives
here
for
you
to
to
view
that,
obviously,
within
in
your
applicator
sorry,
the
committee
report
as
well,
but
you
can
see
the
development
here
which,
as
it
is
an
uplift
test,
we've
got
to
look
at
the
excellent
standard
of
appearance,
and
you
can
see
through
this
perspective
that
there's
some
really
clear,
defined
balcony
edges
that
centralized
recess
and
varied
Building
colors
to
break
up
that
length
of
the
building
and
Achieve
that
excellent
standard
of
appearance.
H
H
This
is
a
bit
of
a
more
zoomed
in
version
of
that
that
Podium,
where
it
also
includes
very
build
and
materials,
some
additional
lands,
so
some
Landscaping.
It's
often
that
built
form
and
also
link
up
with
the
the
streetscape
character
and
presenting
a
quite
an
inviting
space
to
walk
through
and
stuff.
H
This
is
a
perspective
taken
from
Kira
Hill,
and
you
can
see
the
development
identified
there
through
The
annotation
and
shows
how
it
sits
comfortably
within
the
local
context
of
of
coolangatta
foreign
because
also
got
the
the
basement
levels
there.
You
can
see
it's
all
59
car
parking
spaces
and
three
of
those
visitor
spaces
are
located
in
the
basement.
The
ground
level
includes
the
three
other
visitor
car
parking
spaces
and
those
access
arrangements
and
pedestrian
entrance
way
to
to
the
north
at
the
side
levels.
H
Two
and
three
present
a
differing
floor
floor
template
floor
layout
to
the
typical
floor
level,
which
is
shown
here
across
the
levels
four
to
Fifteen.
So
it
includes
those
three
bedroom
units
located
at
the
front
and
the
two
bedroom
units
located
at
the
rear,
as
I
said
at
the
start.
So
the
proposal
includes
a
give
me
the
life
in
space
area
at
the
top
on
level
16
with
a
pool
and
a
gym
and
sauna
and
two
other
units.
H
The
penthouse
suite
is
located
on
the
level
17
with
an
additional
area
of
communal
open
space.
The
section
plan
here
demonstrates
the
the
proposed
Building
height
being
at
55.5
meters.
It
shows
that
the
breakdown
of
the
of
the
units
topology
and
basement
levels
and
also
highlights
the
step
down
top
top
two
levels
which
provide
a
distinct
and
varied
building
presentation.
H
So
in
relation
to
the
building
height,
as
I
said
it's
in
the
center
Zone,
which
developments
within
the
center
zone
is
eligible
to
buy,
to
apply
for
an
increased
Building
height,
provided
it
meets
the
nine
uplift
provisions
and
other
specific
outcomes
relating
to
Building
height.
Unlike
developments
within
the
medium
density
residential
zone,
for
example,
there
are
no
limitations
to
the
maximum
Building
height
that
the
applicant
can
can
propose
when
they're
located
within
the
center.
H
We
can
see
within
the
image
that's
voice
that
there's
a
varying
Building
height
throughout
the
locality,
with
that
core
Center
of
cooling
data,
presenting
80,
84
and
86
meter
high
buildings,
and
this
one
is
55.5.
So
it
provides
us
stepping
down
from
that
core
area
to
provide
that
Center
legibility.
This
is
also
explained
within
this
other
transect
of
the
of
of
cool
gather
and
shows
that
sort
of
tapering
down
at
the
edges,
with
this
development
sits
comfortably
within
achieving
that.
H
It's
also
consistent
with
the
existing
property
to
the
north,
which
is
a
Blue
Sea,
located
on
the
corner
of
McLean
Street
and
Marine
parade,
which
presents
a
building
height
of
53
meters.
So
the
the
proposed
application
of
55
meters
is
is
quite
reflective
in
supporting
that
existing
character
along
McLean
stream.
H
The
submitted
submissions
receive
received,
the
application
were
eight
they're,
all
properly
made
and
all
objecting
to
the
the
proposed
development
that
are
raised.
The
following
concerns
that
that
they
didn't
believe
it
was
meeting
the
Excellence
standard
of
appearance,
but
the
impacts
to
the
Views
and
things
damage
to
the
environment,
the
building
height
and
of
the
bulk
and
density
and
the
conflicts
with
the
local
character.
A
shadow
and
additional
traffic
impacts.
H
Communal
open
space,
setbacks
to
the
North
and
the
little
Street
activation
over
through
revised
discussion
with
the
applicant
I
believe
it
was
resolved
a
lot
of
those
concerns
and
it
is
presenting
an
excellent
standard
of
appearance
and
to
reinforcing
that
local
character,
providing
a
legible
Center.
So.
C
H
Yeah,
so
they
are
sorry
through
the
chair.
Are
they
they
erase
that
they,
like
the
setbacks
to
the
north,
since
that
submission
that
they
have
been
increased
to
to
around
four
meters,
to
provide
a
clear
separation
between
the
two
buildings
which
results
in.
H
No,
they
weren't.
They
believed
that
there
was
little
Street
activation
as
well.
That
was
that
that
their
other
concerned,
thank
you
to
set
back
to.
A
H
So
they
are
the
neighboring
property
to
the
north
is
a
multiple
land
use
development
which
includes
a
number
of
commercial
tenancies
and
those
sorts
of
things
and
Heritage
facade
building.
So
it
has
a
great
presentation
of
the
street,
so
the
applicant,
so
the
submitter
was
Raising.
That's
they
believe
that
this
proposed
development
is
inferior,
but
it
is
a
completely
different
development
of
design
and
the
podium
level,
we
believe
is,
has
quite
a
great
presentation
with
the
street.
H
It's
got
an
inviting
class
front
and
very
building
materials
to
to
achieve
that
excellent
standard
of
appearance
yeah.
That's
it.
G
I
just
had
one
question
and
that's
just
about
and
I
know:
there's
been
a
traffic
assessment
done
because
the
crossover
is
Musgrave
street,
so
I'm
just
just
want
some
advice
about
whether
it
was
considered
the
distance
between
the
where
The
Pedestrian
Crossing
is
and
where
people
will
turn
right,
where
they're
coming
out
of
McLean
and
then
turning
right
into
into
the
basement
level.
H
Yeah,
it
certainly
has
sorry
through
the
show
again
yeah.
It
certainly
has
the
entrance
to
the
proposed
development
is
before
that
pedestrian
Crossing
so
and
there's
a
significant
sight
distance
in
Clear
Sight
distance
to
that
pedestrian
Crossing.
So
there
really
should
be
any
conflict
with
pedestrian
movement
and
vehicle
movement.
D
Chairman
I'd
be
a
bit
bold
I,
don't
think
I've
ever
seen.
One
of
these
proposals
that
seeks
the
uplift
Provisions,
where
it
has
been
assessed,
not
to
have
met
all
of
the
criteria
necessary
to
earn
the
uplift
and
I
think
that's
always
a
point
of
subjective
assessment
rather
than
a
science
in
this
report.
D
It
does
talk
about
the
community
benefit
provision
on
page
133,
and
it
notes
that
there's
we
do
have
guidance
on
what
might
constitute
additional
committee
benefits
and
a
development
is
not
required
to
incorporate
Community
benefits,
but
I
wonder
if
we
could
actually
apply
a
community
benefit
and
say
you
have
to
put
in
an
extra
one
thousand
dollars
per
dwelling
for
a
community
benefit
in
the
local
area,
and
we
will
consider
that
appropriate.
So
it's
kind
of
twisting
turning
things
around
they're,
not
seeking
it,
but
we
could
apply
it.
H
Through
the
chair,
I
think
that
that
is
an
optional
assessment.
Benchmark
I
wish
the
applicant
obviously
has
a
note.
It
hasn't
taken
up,
I,
don't
believe,
there's
any
ability
to
enforce
that
upon
the
applicant.
It's
my
understanding
of
that.
So
it's
been
benchmark.
H
A
D
Was
saying
that
I've
never
seen
one
of
these
assessments
where
it
tells
us
that
they
haven't
met
one
of
the
criteria
and
in
this
case,
obviously
the
officers
are
saying:
they've
met
all
the
criteria
and
I
believe
that's
always
a
subjective
assessment
rather
than
science.
So
I
might
disagree
with
the
fact
that
forgive
me
I.
A
Thought
that
makes
sense
through
you,
sorry
did.
Someone
else
will
have
a
go.
It's
one
of
those
questions.
I
A
Sorry
Scott,
could
you
just
clarify
for
me,
I
know
what's
in
the
report,
but
just
in
the
section
on
this
issues
raised
by
submitters
and
the
setbacks
to
the
north?
Yes,
can
you
just
run
through
what
was
the
original
proposed
set
back
and
what
is
the
final
setback
that
we've
got
yeah?
It.
H
Was
3.2
meters
was
that
was
the
originally
proposed
setback,
but
you
know
we're
getting
from
at
least
four
meters.
The
recess
Centers
do
present
around
3.5,
but
that's
just
to
get
to
the
delineation
that
there
is
a
recess
there
and
that
that's
a
very
minor.
A
H
So
the
original
proposal
was
very
light
on
in
communal
open
space
areas
that
they
only
really
had
that
that
pool
area
and
and
that
Lounge
area,
but
they've
increased
that
space
they've
removed
one
of
the
units
to
include
an
additional
communication
space
area
that
has
a
work
from
home
studio
with
an
additional
balcony
and
recreational
space
that
they
can
sit
around
and
Labs,
so
that
that
was
provided
through
a
further
IR.
A
Any
other
questions,
counselors
counselor
voice.
The
question.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
obviously
we're
in
quite
an
unusual
situation
here
with
the
supplementary
I
gather.
There
is
no
way
of
supporting
6.1
without
supporting
6.6.
Is
that
correct?
Well,
yes,
that's
that's
correct!
That's
through
the
chair.
Yes,
that's
correct.
Okay,
so
I
could
support
6.1,
but
in
supporting
6.6
I
can't
really
vote
for
6.1
that'd
be
fair.
Well,.
H
I
I
guess
so
I
mean
we're
replacing
the
recommendation
within
6.1
with
6.6,
so
it's
yeah,
I
guess
what
you're
getting
at
the
Academy
is
that
yeah
we're
only
supporting
6.6.
Okay,
great!
Thank
you.
G
Thanks
Chad
look:
this
is
a
really
really
really
important
development
for
coolangatta.
It's
probably
well
I
know
it's
the
first
high-rise
development
to
be
applied
for
within
the
center
zone
for
probably
more
than
10
years.
So
the
supplement
supplementary
agenda
about
short-term
accommodation
is
actually
quite
important
for
cool
and
gatta.
G
I
was
very
very
happy
that
the
developers
and
the
the
planners
for
the
applicants
chose
to
remove
two
stories
because
I
think
the
positioning
of
this
development
being
On,
The,
Fringe
of
the
center
Zone
and
the
medium
density
area,
again
very
important
for
cool
and
gather
as
a
city
center
I'm
very
happy
with
with
the
changes
they
made,
I'm
very
happy
that
they
listened
to
the
submitters
and
made
those
changes
and
I
couldn't
envisage
in
that
area
a
higher
a
high
higher
than
55.5
and
we've
been
over
this
quite
a
bit.
G
I
know:
there's
there's
a
lot
of
I
think
the
last
development
in
coolangatta
was
San.
Bano
was
probably
86
meters
and
that's
long
Marine
parade.
But
this
area
here,
55.5
I,
think,
is
the
actual
tops
that
I
could
envisage
for
that
street
McLean
Street.
It's
a
very
constrained
area
at
the
at
the
end
of
Griffith
Street,
which
is
the
main
street
in
coolangatta,
as
I
said,
I'm
very
happy
and
I
hope
that
more
developers
just
listen
to
plan
our
planners
city
planners
when
they
ask
them
to
reduce
height.
B
B
We
saw
it
with
that
little
tunnel
sort
of
thing,
I'm,
not
sure
if
we
can
bring
up
that
slide,
but
so
I
had
a
development
in
Burley
Waters
go
up
with
a
Podium
like
that
and
a
big
extensive
wall
and
became
a
massive
magnet
for
graffiti
and
I
just
wondered
if
City
officers
could
advise
whether
there
are
any
conditions
that
we
have
placed
on
the
maintenance
of
that
quote.
Unquote
blank
canvas
as
a
graffiti-free
space,
because
my
worry
would
be
that
that
would
be
subject
to
ongoing
vandalism.
B
H
Through
the
chair,
because
we've
also,
we
don't
have
any
specific
conditions
in
relation
to
that.
But,
as
you
write
the
point
out,
we
do
have
a
development
application
that
sits
over
that
adjacent
site
that
will
be
will
be
built
up
to
that
battery
and
preventing
any
graffiti
from
from
occurring
in
the
future.
But
the
existing
side
is
fenced
off.
There's
been
no
graffiti
to
to
the
other
other
side
on
the
further
to
the
north.
If
that.
B
Is
that
the
likelihood
that
I
mean
being
in
new
sites
they're
going
to
look
after
it
they're
going
to
paint
it?
But
you
know
developments
can
also
not
proceed
and
there's
no
guarantee
that
the
one
next
door
will
will
occur.
Do
you
think
it's
something
worth
managing.
G
H
Yeah,
certainly
so
I
just
could
vary
with
my
line
is
that
we
do
have
some
conditions
within
our
sweet
package
that
speak
to
graffiti
free
paint.
So
we
could
apply
that
that
type.
B
Of
connection,
maybe
between
now
and
full
Council,
if
we
could
just
add
that
condition,
I
mean
it's
people
when
they
raise
objections.
As
councilman
Jones
said
they
talked
about
that
street
level
activation
and
it
would
be
just
a
Pity
to
create
this
blank
canvas
which
actually
degrades
that
street
level
activation
rather
than
improves
it
yeah.
Certainly,
we
agree.
A
Thanks
well,
anyone
else
looking
to
speak
on
this
one,
so
I'm
just
going
to
speak
in
favor
of
it
very
quickly
and
say
that
it's
brilliant
to
see
as
councilor
Neil
said,
some
new
tourism
accommodation
product
in
the
deep
south
of
the
city.
In
several
conversations
with
councilor
O'neill
she's
always
raised
as
an
issue
that
we
continue
to
have
bigger
events
down
cooling
at
a
way
and
that
accommodation
providers
are
always
solidly
booked
out
and
that
we
needed
more
of
these
products.
That's
really
good
to
see.
A
I
really
wanted
to
make
the
point
too
that
it's
very
obvious
in
the
response
to
the
submitters
issues
raised.
There
has
been
a
lot
of
negotiation
between
officers
in
the
applicant
on
this
one.
We've
seen
a
reduction
in
Heights
we've
seen
an
increase
in
communal,
open
space.
We've
seen
an
increase
in
setbacks
on
some
boundaries.
A
When
you
look
at
the
RL
plan
to
show
the
Heights
of
the
other
buildings
along
that
stretch,
it
will
fit
in
very
well
and
it
will
be
a
welcome
addition
to
that
area
when
it
goes
ahead
with
that,
if
there's
no
one
else
looking
to
speak,
we'll
take
a
vote
all
those
in
favor
counselor,
Peter
Young.
Are
you
four
against
this
one?
That's
fine!
So
three,
four
against
sorry
and
I
was
four
as
well.
Forgive
me
for
that,
so
that
one
is
carried.
A
A
J
K
K
Through
the
Chad
good
morning,
councilors
a
gender
item
6.2
relates
to
a
material
change
of
use
for
short-term
accommodation
at
70,
remembrance,
Drive,
surface
Paradise.
More
specifically,
The
Proposal
is
for
a
new
Backpackers
accommodation
comprising
270
beds
in
135
bed,
bunk
bed
Arrangement
within
the
existing
tenancy
too.
K
The
aerial
on
the
screen
identifies
the
subject
site
while
the
image
depicts
the
subject
tendency
within
the
existing
building.
Historically,
the
tenancy
involve
the
internal
floor
space
for
the
surface
Paradise
Bowls
Club
and
the
historic
external
Bowling
Green
shown
on
the
aerial
in
four
quadrants
are
separately
titled
and
do
not
form
part
of
the
application
or
consideration
for
this
application.
K
K
K
K
K
K
So
percent
to
the
city
plan
flooded
overlay
map
shown
on
the
screen.
The
site
is
identified
as
being
subject
to
flooding
during
a
range
of
flood
events
as
evident
the
building
is
existing.
There
is
no
ability
to
totally
avoid
flooding
impacts
on
the
building
for
the
Adaptive
reuse
of
this
tenancy.
Rather,
it's
set
it's
to
sensibly
manage
the
operations
before
and
during
a
range
of
floods.
K
The
applicant
submitted
a
flight
Emergency
Management
plan
to
identify
the
levels
of
risk
associated
with
the
tenancy
and
to
identify
the
levels
and
to
instill
a
range
of
control
measures.
A
trained
and
certified
flood
management
coordinator
is
required
to
be
on
site
at
all
times.
This
would
likely
be
staff
members.
K
The
management
plan
involves
opportunity
for
early
evacuation
to
flood
free
land,
which
is
approximately
190
meters
to
the
southeast
and
shelter
in
place
arrangements,
and
this
is
gas
remaining
the
building
when
flood
waters
are
no
longer
safe
to
Wade.
To
Refuge,
it's
not
expected
that
flood
waters
would
inundate
the
site
for
more
than
72
hours
during
the
probable
maximum
flood,
and
the
proposal
will
provide
and
will
be
certified
to
have
provided
prior
to
the
commencement
of
the
use,
sufficient
food,
water
and
fuel
supply
on
level.
One
from
the
commencement
of
its
use.
K
K
K
K
K
K
The
code
assessment
land
use
for
short-term
accommodation
is
an
envisage
activity
within
the
center
Zone
surface
Paradise
specialist
center.
The
use
will
provide
affordable,
short-term
stay
accommodation,
opportunities
for
Interstate
and
international
visitors.
Supporting
the
city's
tourist
economy
officers
recommend
that
this
application
be
approved
subject
to
conditions.
Are
there
any
questions.
D
Thanks
chairman,
so
what
we've
essentially
got
here
is
a
dormitory
Style
accommodation.
Is
that
correct.
K
D
D
K
D
K
K
That
one
yeah
through
the
chair,
it's
what
the
applicant
propose.
So
we
didn't
ask
them
to
provide
22
car
parking
spaces.
Oh.
D
Sorry
spaces
and
I
might
have
missed
it,
but
I
just
wonder
if
there's
any
mention
in
this
report
about
fire
managing
fire
as
a
Hazard,
please.
K
I
mean
through
the
chair,
they'd,
be
reclassifying
the
building
to
I,
understand
it's
a
class
three
reclassification
from
class
five,
so
private
certifiers
I,
don't
know
how
that
their.
You
know,
assessment
of
flooding,
impacts
and
I'm.
Sorry,
fire
impacts
is
progressed,
but
it
is.
It
is
deferred
to
a
certifier
that
has
holds
a
registration
to
to
reclassify
these
buildings.
A
Sorry
Peter,
would
you
mind
just
quickly:
Alex
could
I
the
270
figure
and
with
regards
to
the
fire
certification
that
will
come,
is
there
a
chance
that,
as
part
of
that
process,
that
figure
is
going
to
be
reduced
like
the
270s?
What
the
applicant
proposed
has
that
been
verified
by
a
certifier
that
can
actually
be
handled
in
this
space,
or
is
it
possible
that
the
fire
certification
is
going
to
turn
around
and
say
you've
got
too
many
occupants
in
this
many
square
meters.
K
For
the
chair
probably
be
careful
not
to
to
want
to
comment
on
things
that
I'm
I'm
not
familiar
with,
but
it
it
would
or
could
potentially
but
yeah
I
really,
but.
A
K
B
Thank
you
very
much.
Sorry
could
I
just
get
clarification
on
the
issue
of
car
parking,
all
other
things
being
equal?
What
would
the
required
number
of
car
parking
be
for
the
effective
number
of
bedrooms
provided.
K
C
So
so,
just
on
the
car
parking
the
example
on
page
308
talks
about
the
Tequila
Sunrise,
similar
Backpackers
operation.
How
much
contacted
the
city
officers
have
with
that
operator
in
in
the
assessment.
K
I'll
just
ask
Chris
Joel
to
come
from
transport
assessment.
M
Thanks
Alex
for
the
chair,
we
didn't
have
direct
contact
with
the
Tequila
Sunrise.
The
applicant
had
independent
traffic
engineer,
basically
set
up
a
survey
that
we
reviewed
and
that
survey
went
to
the
operator.
To
basically
say
this
is
how
many
people
are
driving
riding
walking
from
the
tram
or
from
from.
M
C
D
I
think
Council
Aaron
Jones
will
be
able
to
answer
it.
He's
probably
the
person
within
here
so
through.
You
had
asked
him
a
question
about
car
parking.
Let's
do
that
if
you
don't
mind
councilman
Jones,
do
you
have
a
recollection
as
to
our
most
recent
decision
on
the
Bruce
Bishop
car
park?
My
recollection
is,
though,
it's
going
to
be
reviewed
by
the
new
Council
in
October
next
year
or
something.
C
So
so
the
decision
as
iron
recall
it
was
that
the
city
would
continue
to
keep
the
asset
and
the
the
room
that
the
review
would
be
in
regards
to
the
funding
that
the
city
required
in
order
to
maximize
its
use
as
it
as
an
asset
that
that
was
my
understanding
to
be
undertaken
by
the
by
the
next
Council.
Well,
then,
time
framing
puts
it
into
the
next
Council
thanks
thanks.
A
G
Chu
I'm
having
difficulty
getting
my
head
around
this
application,
I
have
to
admit
now
that
we've
brought
up
the
Tequila
Sunrise,
which
is
a
similar.
What
was
it
was?
It
was
approved
under
the
same
sort
of
conditions.
Do
you
know.
G
G
Okay,
because
I'm
a
yeah,
my
concern
is
and
and
I
know
we
can't
talk
about
or
can't
do
much
about
fire
regulations.
That's
up
to
the
private
certifier,
but
I
know
in
in
short-term
accommodation
where
there's
unit
dwellings.
The
number
of
people
is
limited
with
the
amount
of
bedrooms,
for
instance,
if
you've
got
a
two-bedroom
apartment,
it's
limited
to
six
people
in
that
two-bedroom
apartment.
So
yeah,
it's
a
strange
one,
but
thank
you.
C
Council
Owen
Jones
could
I
just
ask
about
infrastructure
charges
and
why
the
amount
is
zero.
K
Through
the
chair
infrastructure
charges,
zero,
there's
an
exempt
charge
in
the
regime
or
in
the
infrastructure
policy,
and
the
application
meets
those
exemptions.
So
it's
an
existing
commercial
tenancy
that
has
the
same
GFA
as
approved.
It's
paid
its
infrastructure
charges
prior
it
was
a
prior
land
use,
so
yeah
zero
dollars,
charts.
C
And
are
we
consistent
in
that
in
regards
so
clearly,
there
hasn't
been
an
act
of
land
use
in
the
property
for
more
than
10
years.
Are
we
consistent
in
the
way
that
we
manage
those
changes
of
land
uses
so
so,
like
I
mean
the
original
use?
Didn't
never
imagine,
there'd
be
270
bodies
and
camping
overnight
within
the
premise.
N
After
each
had
Council
Andres,
no,
there
wasn't
270
beds,
obviously
with
the
Bowls
Club
using
it,
but
our
infrastructure
charges
group
are
pretty
consistent
with
the
way
they've
applied
this
policy.
So
this
one
does
fall
within
that
exemption
under
the
the
city's
charges
resolution.
So
that's
on
page
336.
A
You're,
our
resident
Backpacker
expert,
any
questions,
counselor
Patterson,
any
from
you,
okay,
I
had
a
couple
just
so
no
public
notification
period
on
this
one,
but
there
was
some
correspondence
received,
can
I
always
get
clarification
of
what
correspondence
was
received
in
regards
to
owns
consent.
A
A
Similarly,
so
in
the
correspondence
received
there
was
I'm
guessing
concerns
raised
around
amenity
on
existing
residents.
Can
I
get
an
understanding
of
how
officers
review
that
and
what,
if
any,
mitigation
measures
have
been
put
in
place.
K
Yep
through
the
chair,
so
the
it
is
an
existing
commercial
tenancy.
It's
completely
separated
from
the
residents
entrance
to
the
surface,
Plaza
Resort.
So
that
is
one
consideration
it.
It
removes
that
perceived
amended
impact
of
the
number
of
people
walking
through
their
own
Lobby
Additionally.
The
applicant
submitted
an
acoustic
report
which
undertook
an
assessment
of
nearby
road
traffic
noise,
its
existing
commercial
tenancy
and
how
it
has
been
set
up
prior,
and
there
are
a
number
of
recommendations,
limiting
noise
and
hours
of
operation
of
the
balconies
yep.
A
So
Alex
on
the
balcony
side
of
things
and
where
I
think
possibly
I
can
understand
why
the
residents
above
would
have
the
main
concern
about
noise
and
amenity.
So
that
would
be
on
the
staff
who
are
on
site
24
7
to
make
sure
that
balcony
is
not
used
after
a
certain
time
period.
Is
that
correct
through.
A
Very
good
so
I'm
happy
to
move
the
item.
Do
I
have
a
secondary
on
this
one.
A
D
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
D
A
D
To
open
thanks,
chair
and
I'm
grateful
to
the
for
the
assistance
of
the
officers
during
the
break
and
you're,
giving
us
that
opportunity
to
work
on
this,
which
I
understand
if
we
were
to
pass
this
would
be
under.
This
would
be
further
scrutinized
by
officers
and
any
additional
wording
provided
before
we
go
into
Council.
But
there's
three
reasons
identified
here
for
refusing
this
proposal.
D
D
Thank
you
for
that.
Yep.
The
City
plan
density
identifies
the
residential
density
of
one
bed
per
13
square
meters
and
what's
been
proposed
to
use
one
bed
per
six
overall
they're,
taking
into
account
the
other
residential
uses
in
the
property
and
that's
a
very
high.
D
Demarcation
or
difference
from
the
city
plan,
in
my
opinion
too
strong
second,
is
the
complete
lack
of
car
parking
for
staff
or
clientele.
It's
acknowledged
in
the
report
that
visitors
might
stay.
The
average
visitation
is
19
days
for
these
kinds,
kinds
of
accommodation
or
I
find
it
hard
to
believe.
That's
what
the
report
tells
us
and
it
seems
to
me
unlikely
that
every
single
person
that
might
use
this
over
a
period
of
a
year
is
going
to
come
on
a
bus
on
a
plane
in
a
taxi
on
a
bike
not
have
their
own
car
I.
D
Think
a
lot
of
young
people
do
have
a
car
and
they
travel
around
the
country
and
that's
part
of
the
independence
of
their
lifestyle
that
and
holidaying.
So.
The
report
identifies
that
there's
no
on-street
car
parking
available
in
the
precinct
and
so
there's
a
heavy
Reliance
upon
public
car
parking
in
the
Bruce
Bishop
car
park,
which
is
a
very
uncertain
provision.
It
might
be
okay
for
the
next
six
months
might
be
okay
for
the
next
12.
But
beyond
that,
we
really
don't
know,
and
it's
unacceptable.
D
In
my
opinion,
the
third
reason-
and
this
is
very
much
a
heartfelt
con
concern-
we
are
if
we
were
to
approve
this
land
use
responsible
for
the
ultimate
safety
of
everyone
that
occupies
that's,
that
accommodation,
and
it
concerns
me
greatly
that
any
fire
safety
Provisions
would
be
completely
the
responsibility
of
a
private
certifier
unobserved
by
us,
and
we've
got
270
lives
here
and
I.
Don't
think
that
we
can
dismiss
from
our
minds
the
fact
that
occasionally,
fires
do
happen,
and
it's
certainly
in
these
kinds
of
accommodation.
D
It's
been
known
in
Australia
and
overseas
that
this
that
fires
do
occur.
So
to
me,
that's
got
to
be
a
very
genuine
concern
for
us
in
that
we
don't
have
oversight,
we're
relying
upon
a
land
use
or
at
the
the
use
of
a
property.
That's
not
defined,
and
therefore
the
land
use
that
the
certifier
will
rely
upon
under
the
regulations
will
be
short-term
accommodation.
And
what
we're
providing
here
what's
been
sought
is
not
typical,
short-term
accommodation,
it's
dormitory,
so
it's
a
very
different
set
of
requirements
that
ultimately
would
be
required,
and
we
don't
have.
D
E
So
not
on
this
committee,
so
I'm
not
voting,
but
I
would
certainly
support
councilor
Young's
recommendation.
I
just
have
one
question
on
it
through
you
to
the
offices
and
I'd.
Probably
ask
this
to
the
city
solicitor
before
the
council
meeting
is
whether
0.3
is
something
that
we
can
put
as
a
reason
that
would
be
legally
upheld.
So.
A
I
think
I'm
happy
if
we
just
take
that
one
on
Note,
because
I'm
sure
we'll
get
the
city
solicitors
input
on
this
in
general
before
for
Council,
if
you're
cool
with
that
any
other
speakers
for
or
against
Council
Owen
Jones.
C
I
think
that
through
past
applications
in
regards
to
this
property
and
it's
adjacent
Freehold
titles,
we're
aware
of
the
limitations
on
the
surface
Plaza
Resort
as
it
was
originally
approved
in
regards
to
the
provision
of
car
parking,
and
it
does
concern
me
that,
in
a
building
where
there
is
an
existing
200
occupants
without
car
parking,
we
would
be
proposing,
through
an
officer's
recommendation,
of
further
approval
for
270
people,
potentially
to
occupy
a
commercial
space
that
was
originally
approved
with
car
parking,
but
now
no
longer
benefits
from
their
parking.
C
So
so
that's
been
on
my
mind.
Clearly,
the
applicant
Alfonso
Abril
is:
is
an
existing
provider
of
these
type
of
services
at
cursory
glance
on
the
internet
leads
you
to
another
premises
that
he
has
in
in
surface
Paradise
and
and
and
because
our
reports
are
based
on
who
the
applicant
is
and
who's
provided,
consent.
We're
also
aware
that
one
of
the
owners
that
has
provided
the
consent
is
the
company
called
Creston
who
and
I
don't
know
whether
or
not
they
are
still
the
owner.
C
But
at
the
time
making
the
application
they
were
the
owner
and
the
the
mayor
is
previously
made
declarations
in
regards
to
an
an
interest
in
Crest.
Then
so
I
say
that,
in
regards
to
the
applicant,
as
is,
is
Alfonso
and
he's
put
forward
a
proposal
in
regards
to
the
business
that
he's
in
but
I'm
mindful
very
much
off
the
impact
of
any
type
of
change
of
that
commercial
use
in
an
area
that
doesn't
have
any
available
on-site
car
parking
and,
and
that's
a
major
concern
for
me.
A
A
Just
quickly
before
we
jump
into
this
one,
can
we
just
between
Nick
and
Mick
and
Lyra
if
there
is
any
need
to
changes
to
that
recommendation
on
the
previous
one
before
full
Council
can
we
make
sure
that's
circulated
to
all
councilors,
not
just
committee
members,
before
for
Council,
very
good
Marvin
good
morning,
everybody
presentation
on
6.3
yep
correct.
Let's.
O
O
The
development
application
relates
to
three
sites
at
18
and
20
Bower
Street
and
10
Chester
Terrace
Southport.
This
application
has
triggered
impact
assessment
because
the
development
is
proposed
above
the
building
height
overlay,
nut
for
the
site,
which
designates
a
height
limit
of
23
meters.
The
proposal
has
a
building
height
of
30.8
meters.
O
O
Within
the
immediate
locality,
the
subject
site
isn't
a
periphery
of
a
pocket
of
a
periphery
of
a
pocket
of
land
within
the
medium
density,
residential
Zone.
It
is
in
a
unique
location
that
converges
with
the
boundaries
of
low
density,
large,
low
density,
residential
Lysol
Precinct
to
the
South
and
the
garden
residential
Precinct
of
the
Southport
PDA
to
the
north.
The
building
Hearts
within
the
immediate
locality
remain
predominantly
low
rise.
O
O
As
previously
mentioned,
the
proposal
seeks
to
establish
a
building
above
the
23
meter
height
limit
designated
for
the
site,
as
shown
in
the
above
image.
The
Proposal
will
have
a
building
height
of
Nine
Stories
at
30.8
meters
in
the
medium
density,
residential
Zone
city
planner
allows
the
development
to
exceed
up
to
50
over
the
map.
Building
height
of
the
site,
subject
to
clients
with
a
strategic
framework
officer
assessment
has
determined.
The
proposal
has
demonstrated
compliance
with
the
relevant
benchmarks
of
the
framework.
O
The
following
slides
will
show
the
perspective
of
the
development,
but
first
notably,
the
development
comprises
of
54
residential
units
has
a
building
height
of
Nine
Stories
at
30.8
meters
has
a
site
cover
of
72
at
the
ground
level,
and
55
at
the
upper
level
has
72
residential
car
parking
spaces
and
six
visitor
spaces.
Car
parking
is
located
on
the
ground
and
basement
level.
O
O
O
A
A
O
During
public
notification,
188
properly
made
submissions
were
received,
consisting
of
entirely
of
objections.
153
of
these
objections
were
made
by
performer
15,
not
probably
made
submissions
were
also
received
entirely
consisting
of
objections.
O
With
respect
to
the
building
height
and
appearance,
the
proposal
has
been
assessed
against
the
50
uplift
provisions
of
the
Strategic
framework
and
are
considered
to
comply
officer
officer
assessment
has
concluded.
The
proposal
includes
a
high
quality
design
has
a
well
articulated
facade,
has
appropriate
setbacks
and
site
cover,
ensures
privacy
protection
and
contributes
to
the
aspirational
character
of
the
locality.
O
Notably
The
Proposal
will
retain
two
significant
fig
trees
out
the
front
of
the
site.
One
tree
is
located
within
the
Bower
Street
Road
reserve
and
is
far
enough
away
from
the
building
to
avoid
being
impacted
by
the
development.
The
other
is
the
other
is
located
on
the
corner
of
Bower
Street
and
Chester
Terrace
within
the
corner
corner
truncation
of
the
site.
The
proposal
has
been
designed
to
include
a
basement
cutout
around
the
structural
root
zone
of
the
tree.
O
An
arborist
report
has
been
provided
by
the
applicant
with
technical
recommendations
and
how
the
trees
to
be
retained.
These
requirements
will
be
included
within
the
conditions
of
approval.
Officers
have
also
recommended
additional
conditions
to
ensure
a
tree
tree.
Protective
measures
are
carried
out
during
the
construction
phase.
O
Additionally,
officers
have
recommended
conditions
for
a
monetary
Bond
payable
for
the
protection
of
the
tree
during
construction.
The
bond
will
be
in
the
amount
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
will
be
held
for
a
period
of
12
months
after
the
completion
of
all
building
works.
Officers.
Consider
this
bond
to
be
appropriate
for
the
development.
O
In
summary,
officers
have
undertaken
a
holistic
assessment
against
the
Strategic
framework
assessment,
has
determined
The,
Proposal,
fulfills
the
character
aspirations
of
the
zone
and
results
in
a
higher
quality
residential
outcome.
Further
the
site
is
in
a
well-service
location
that
supports
the
nature
of
the
development
proposed.
Are
there
any
questions.
P
Through
the
chair,
yes,
that
is
correct.
If
you
turn
to
page
397
of
your
agenda,
you'll
see
the
figure.
12.
shows
the
tree
and
that's
facing
west
and
to
the
left
of
the
image.
You'll
note:
that's
where
the
existing
house
is,
and
the
tree
has
been
I
guess
historically
pruned
to
avoid
the
existing
building.
That's
there
and.
P
The
chair,
the
conditions
of
the
approval
that
we're
hoping
to
get
your
support
for
run
with
the
land,
so
any
requirement
on
the
developer
will
also
apply
to
the
Future
body.
Corporate.
P
C
I
suppose
I
was
trying
to
think
forward
yeah,
two
or
four
years
time
buildings
established
by
the
developers.
Long
left,
the
the
bonds
been
released,
the
and
then
the
body
corporate
effectively
is
managing
that
interface
between
their
building
and
the
tree
canopy
and
just
making
sure
that
our
conditions
effectively
protect
that
tree
canopy
for
as
long
as
possible.
Whilst
it's
a
healthy
tree.
P
D
Thanks
chairman,
you
know
related
matter.
I
noticed
that
the
and
you
did
say
that
the
bond
for
the
protection
of
the
tree
lasts
for
12
months
after
construction.
Is
there
a
reason
why
we
wouldn't
make
that
a
longer
period?
Five
years,
for
example,.
D
And
it's
a
good
practice
and
I
can
see
that
the
applicant's
gone
to
a
lot
of
effort
here
to
try
to
protect
the
Train,
That's
I'm
sure
going
to
be
very
gratefully
received
by
the
local
community.
But
I
do
have
concern
that
in
five
years
time
the
thing
might
be
affected
by
changes
to
the
water
table
or
complications
that
we
can't
envisage,
and
it
would
be
good
to
have
some
increased
confidence
that
the
there'll
be
adequate
provision.
P
Through
the
chair,
there's
no
prohibition
on
cancer
from
doing
or
imposing
such
a
condition,
but
just
reminded
that
all
conditions
that
we
do
issue
under
the
planning
act
have
to
be
reasonable
and
relevant.
The
bond
is
paid
by
the
developer.
We
consider
that
a
year
for
that
bond
to
stay
in
place
is
appropriate
and
then
any
future
you
know,
maintenance
of
the
tree
is
is
vested
with
the
body
corporate.
C
Okay,
two
through
your
chair
to
Peter,
so
the
bonds
are
actually
a
financial
instrument
from
the
developer
that
so,
if
they've
sold
out
all
of
the
development
they're
going
to
want
to
be
able
to
move
on
rather
than
be
bound
for
three
or
four
or
five
yeah.
L
C
Might
be
transferred
to
so
and
I,
don't
know
whether
or
not
we
have
the
ability
to
transfer
it
to
a
body
corporate
that
hasn't
been
constituted
yet
so,
but
I
don't
know
whether
or
not
we
could
have
12
months
or
like
a
bond
that
is
12
months
or,
alternatively,
you
know
three
months
after
the
sale
of
the
last
unit,
which
effectively
might
drag
you
out
a
little
bit
longer,
but
it
at
least
provide
some
finalization
for
the
developer.
C
Are
you
did
you
just
not
know
so,
like
I
mean
I'm
mindful
if
it
needing
to
be
a
a
relevant
and
reasonable
condition
in
the
fact
that
it
has
to
be
anchored
effectively
to
a
development
loan
and
but
but
it
will
also
be
retired.
Ultimately,
when
the
last
unit
sold
yep.
B
B
There
is
a
question
coming
up:
go
figure.
Having
read
the
report
I
suppose
I
worry
that
there
is
insufficient
strength
in
the
proposed
conditions
and
in
the
commentary
to
secure
the
future
of
the
tree,
insofar
as
the
conditions
seem
to
concern
the
retention
of
the
tree
during
the
course
of
construction.
B
So,
for
example,
under
the
that's
this
page
bit
with
me,
476.
B
since
you've
retained
trees,
the
two
Ficus
oblique,
the
small,
leafed,
fig,
really
good,
bat
fodder,
I
might
add,
number
T1
and
T2,
and
the
four
water
gums
is
detailed
within
the
abused
report
and
vegetation
management
plan
are
to
be
retained
and
not
damaged
during
construction
works,
so
I
mean
I.
B
Think
it's
arguable,
given
the
way
that
that
sentence
is
structured,
that
we're
talking
about
retaining
these
during
construction
works
and
maintaining
them
and
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
permanence
around
their
location,
while
I
assume
that
there's
a
vegetation
management
plan
that
has
been
submitted,
I,
don't
know
that
that
has
been
well.
Certainly
not
Incorporated
in
the
the
body
of
the
report
and
I
just
wondered
whether
City
officers
might
think
it
a
reasonable
thing
to
do
to
actually
more
explicitly
call
out
the
enduring
retention
of
that
tree.
B
What
you'll
end
up
with
is
an
imbalance
in
the
canopy
right,
because
you'll
have
branches
growing
out
across
the
road
Reserve.
You
won't
have
compensatory
or
balancing
weight
over
the
private
property,
and
then
you
might
end
up
losing
the
tree
altogether
because
it
becomes
structurally
unsound.
So
would
it
be
fair
and
reasonable
to
strengthen
that
condition
to
require
the
tree
to
be
maintained
by
the
body
corporate
in
accordance
with
the
prevailing
Australian
standard.
B
Mr
chairman
and
while
we're
getting
that
feedback,
it's
not
without
precedent.
We've
often
referred
to
these
other
cultural
standards
captured
in
the
Australian
standards
in
similar
conditions.
B
Sorry
in
conditions
for
similar
developments,
I
I
in
it
if
it
is
supported-
and
we
can
get
that
with
strength
and
conditions,
I-
think
it's
also
important
to
flag
that
as
an
information
notice
on
future
rates,
because
there
will
be
people
who
purchase
a
lower
apartment
in
close
proximity
to
the
Victory,
and
they
should
know
that
in
the
fullness
of
time
in
10
or
20
years
that
they
might
have
some
encroachment
into
their
view
by
the
the
growing
canopy
City
Arborist.
R
Through
the
church,
it's
like
dude
respond
to
your
question.
There
regards
to
the
ongoing
pruning
and
maintenance
of
the
tree.
It
will
be
the
responsibility
of
the
Body
Corp
to
maintain
that
tree.
Any
pruning
works
these
classes
damage
under
our
veg
code
and
will
require
an
application
to
counsel.
For
that
approved
work
to
happen.
Council
officer
will
attend
the
site,
inspect
the
site.
Have
that
conversation
with
the
applicant,
which
would
be
the
Body
Corp
their
concerns
and
address
those
concerns,
but
will
dictate
what?
B
Thank
you
for
that
answer.
Mr
chairman
to
you,
then
perhaps
I
mean
I'd,
still
prefer
a
strength
and
condition
that
referred
to
the
standard.
But
if
there's
no
support
for
that
at
the
very
least,
an
information
notice
to
the
effect
of
the
advice
that
we've
been
provided,
I
think
would
be
necessary.
A
Just
so,
we
don't
try
and
push
to
come
up
with
words
today
that
we
then
have
to
change
it
for
counselor.
Possibly,
would
committee
be
happy
if
we
just
said
for
now
that
you've
got
the
intent
that
I
think
of
what
all
committee
members
are
interested
in
if
they
change
that
recommend
a
change
to
that
particular
word.
It
could
be
provided
before
for
Council
and
we
can
enter
it
into
full
Council
community
members,
you're
happy
with
that
approach,
cool,
so
we'll
shoot
back
to
questions.
Councilor,
Patterson.
E
Thank
you
with
the
so
in
the
report.
You've
acknowledged
that
this
is
the
first
proposal
in
this
locality
that
seeking
the
50,
uplift
and
I
just
do
want
to
say
a
very
big.
Thank
you
to
the
team
for
your
work
with
all
the
submitters
in
the
residents,
and
particularly
Mr
Moran,
for
meeting
with
it
was
at
least
over
60
70
residents,
who
requested
a
meeting
on
on
these
matters.
E
I
note
that,
with
the
specific
outcomes
to
achieve
that
50
uplift,
four
of
the
eight
of
them
refer
to
these
these
trees
and
one
of
them,
particularly
the
reinforced
local
identity
and
sense
of
place,
would
not
be
achieved
without
those
trees.
So
I'm
really
grateful
to
hear
the
the
concerns
from
the
committee
and
their
their
commitment
to
a
strength
around
those
conditions.
E
So
my
question
with
the
my
understanding
is
that
there
is
some
debate
as
and
even
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
may
seem,
like
a
large
number
that
is
originally
considerations
of
a
number
more
like
250
000
would
be
appropriate
for
a
tree
of
this
scale.
I
just
wondered
if
you
could
speak
to
that.
P
Through
the
chair,
the
reference
to
250,
000
I
think
came
up
during
a
conversation
that
we've
had
about
the
application
officers
have
recommended
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
the
basis
that
we
consider
it
is
reasonable
for
the
scale
and
type
of
development
that
is
proposed
and
it's
proportionate
it.
We
are
of
the
view
that
it
provides
a
dissentive
to
I,
guess,
do
any
works
that
will
damage
or
you
know,
prohibit
the
tree's
ongoing
health
and
maintenance.
So
we're
quite
satisfied
with
the
hundred
thousand
dollar
figure.
E
With
the
follow-up
with
that,
so
if
I
can,
just
so
through
our
discussions
and
again
on
site
when
we
were
there
with
residents
yesterday
afternoon,
I
get
the
impression
that
that
that
first
item
of
the
local
identity
and
since
place
would
not
be
achieved
without
these
trees.
P
Through
the
chat,
that's
a
difficult
question
to
answer
because
they
have
proposed
to
keep
the
tree
and
that's
how
we've
assessed
the
application.
Yeah
and
I
would
say
that
it
does
add
Merit.
However,
the
50
uplift
also
applies
to
the
building
itself
and,
as
you
can
see,
through
the
perspectives
and
our
assessment
within
the
report,
the
building
itself
does
provide
an
excellent
standard
of
appearance
and
is
consistent
with
the
aspirational
character
of
what
council
and
City
plan
is
trying
to
achieve
in
this
location.
Yeah.
A
Just
I
think
Liam
were
you
trying
to
get
out
that
it
wasn't
necessarily
that
tree
that
reinforces
local
identity?
It's
that
it's
well
landscaped
and
has
that
Greenery
is
the
local
identity
part
of
it,
not
necessarily
that
specific
tree
I
think
just
to
make
that.
P
The
point
I'm
trying
to
make
is
that
the
tree
was
definitely
a
significant
factor
for
the
our
assessment
and
its
retention.
I
guess
gave
weight
to
the
house
lending
support
for
the
proposal,
but
it
wasn't
the
only
reason
we
had
other
raisins,
like
I've,
just
discussed
about
the
building
quality
and
the
location
of
the
development
that
also
land
support
to
develop
Meeting
those
Provisions
in
the
Strategic
framework
yeah.
E
F
Just
one
on
the
obviously
I
love
trees
as
well,
but.
A
F
If
the
building
design
I
guess
has
accommodated
the
the
future
growth
of
the
tree
in
the
sense
of
obviously
20
30
years
time
roots
and
things
expand
structural
damage
to
the
building,
just
because
I've
had
a
not
had
there's
a
similar
building
that
we've
been
working
through
with
many
of
these
offices
where
similar
application
30
odd
years
ago,
the
tree's
grown.
It's
now
causing
significant
structural
damage
to
the
building,
where
it's
costing
a
lot
of
money
for
the
body
corporate
to
maintain
the
tree
in
its
current
state,
under
all
the
appropriate
rules
and
regulations.
F
A
S
Morning,
Dear
Mr
Spears
good
morning,
everyone
and
sorry
don't
want
to
contribute
to
a
cast
of
thousands,
but
I
was
involved
in
that
recent
discussion
there
with
councilor
Baldwin
Lumsden
through
the
chair.
The
comment
I
would
make
is
that
trees
are
they're
Dynamic
and
they
do
change
over
time.
It's
really
difficult
to
make
decisions
or
recommendations
at
a
point
in
time.
S
Now
that
would
you
know
100
encapsulate
situations
in
30
or
40
years
time
that
particular
situation
councilor
about
the
Lums
and
those
you're
aware,
but
just
to
fill
the
rest
of
the
group
in
that
tree
in
question
that
we
were
discussing
was
estimated
to
be
around
80
to
100
years
old,
but
the
great
outcome
there
was
that
under
you
know,
Council
arborist
recommendation
there.
There
are
good
prospects
for
retaining
that
tree,
whilst
interacting
with
services
and
the
building
so
yeah.
S
My
my
personal
View
and
I'm,
not
an
arborist
Phil,
might
add
to
this
from
a
technical
perspective,
but
on
the
basis
of
that
situation
and
the
fact
that
there
were
paths
forward
that
didn't
involve
removing
that
tree.
The
retention
of
this
tree,
you
know
decades
after
we're
not
going
to
be
around
anymore,
there's
there's,
in
my
view,
very
good
prospects
to
the.
F
I
think
that
it
said
it's
very
obviously
very
hard
to
properly
forward
plan
for
what
trees
may
or
may
not
do
in
the
future.
I
just
as
I
said,
didn't
want
there
to
be
a
situation
where
there's
a
big
pushback
on
Council,
because
there's
tens
or
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
continue
maintaining
and
repairing
that
was
all
Fair
Point.
Okay,.
S
So
I
was
just
going
to
add
one
more
thing:
if
that's
okay,
Mr
chairman,
this
would
be
reviewed
in
the
future.
Sorry
didn't
say:
yes,
Oh
I
thought
you
did
a
slight,
not
I
must
have
missed
it.
S
Like
I'm
gonna,
stop
you
yeah,
but
you
know
these
are
not
stuck
in
concrete
forever
in
the
sense
that
you
know,
Council
offices,
I
was
going
to
say
me,
but
in
30
years
time
I
don't
know
what
I'll
be
doing
my
equivalent
in
30
years
time
would
review
whether
the
retention
of
that
tree
is
appropriate.
With
respect
to
damage
to
infrastructure
interaction
with
the
building.
You
know
we
don't
stay
forever.
No
sorry!
You
can't
touch
it
that
30
year
old
approval
makes
it
stay
there.
A
A
Okay,
all
right
so
before
we
get
to
that.
I
did
have
just
a
question
in
regards
to
on
page
464
in
the
response
to
submitters.
A
There's
an
example
given
of
what
the
original
building
that
was
applied
for
look
like
I
was
just
looking
for
a
bit
more
information
from
officers.
Obviously,
I
can
see
the
main
changes,
but
could
you
give
me
an
overview
of
further
negotiation
process
and
it
appears
to
be
very
much
based
on
the
strong
submitted
feedback?
What
changes
have
been
made
to
the
building
in
terms
of
facade
treatments
and
Landscaping
changes
through.
P
The
chair
I
will
defer
to
council's
architect
Tim
DeVore.
T
Thank
you
through
the
chairs.
City
officers
worked
with
the
applicant
in
regards
to
the
building
appearance
and
its
interface
to
neighboring
development,
so,
firstly,
with
the
podium
form
to
introduce
some
greater
depth
and
movement
within
the
podium
form.
In
addition
to
Landscaping,
including
with
the
medium
Rise
building
form,
officers,
had
the
opinion
that
the
building
lacked
texture
and
the
applicant
introduced
some
additional
texture
through
the
brickwork
which
responds
to
the
local
area,
where
there's
some
brickworks
seen
within
buildings,
including
some
additional
fine
grain
detailing
of
screens
and
hoods.
T
So
on
balance,
officers
were
comfortable
that
the
building
provided
an
excellent
standard
for
parents
and
the
applicant
made
sufficient
changes
to
to
meet
those
outcomes.
Very.
A
Good
my
second
question:
if
we
can
try
and
fit
someone
else
up
here,
I
was
just
interested
in
traffic's
assessment
in
regards
to
Chester
tariffs
and
traffic
volume
and
safety
concerns
raised
by
submitters
around
the
intersection
and
whatnot.
If
we
could
get
a
bit
more
context
on
what
your
findings
were.
U
Mr
chair
the
existing
volume
on
Chester
Terrace
on
it
on
a
from
a
diary
perspective
is
around
1900
vehicles
per
day.
At
the
moment,
it's
a
residential
collector,
so
it's
designed
for
3
000
a
day.
The
proposed
development
will
add
about
300
to
that
so
still
remaining
well
below
capacity.
U
I.
Think
one
of
the
other
matters
in
relation
to
Chester
that
was
raised
by
submitters
was
in
relation
to
vehicle
speeds.
So
we
do
actually
have
data
cancel
data
which
was
collected
immediately
adjacent
to
the
subject
property
where
their
access
driveway
will
be,
and
that
showed
so.
It
is
an
unposted
road,
so
it
means
it's
got
a
50k
per
hour.
Speed
limit
and
the
average
speed
is
40
K's
per
hour
with
an
85th
percentile
speed
of
47.6
kilometers
per
hour,
so
largely
compliant
in
terms
of
speeds.
A
Through
you
to
councilor
Patterson
your
understanding,
what
similarious,
concerns
or
in
regards
the
traffic
was
about
volume,
or
was
it
the
concern
around
speeding
or
sight
lines?
What
was
the
concern
that
you
understood
to
be.
E
All
of
the
above,
but
the
biggest
one,
is
the
amount
of
traffic
and
the
volume
and
again
through
each
year,
I.
Thank
you
for
meeting
on
site
and
going
through
that,
and
it
was
curious,
and
perhaps
if
you
could
just
speak
to
the
committee
on
that
that
consideration
of
yes
we're
at
1900
there's
a
capacity
for
three
thousand.
We've
got
300
likely
to
come
if
this
proposal
is
approved-
and
this
is
the
first
of
its
kind
in
this
area.
E
So
a
lot
more
is
so
you'd
say:
okay,
if
there's
another
four
approvals,
then
we
would
be
and
I
don't
know,
that's
not
for
something
to
be
considered
today,
but
I'd
just
like
to
for
comment
on
it
because
it
is.
It
does
seem
strange
that
we've
got
a
street.
That's
considering
this
kind
of
build
the
whole
way
along
it,
but
if
they
do
that,
then
by
your
numbers,
it
would
be
exceeding
traffic.
Could
you
please
comment
on
that.
U
Thank
you
through
you,
Mr
chair,
so
I
think
we
have
to
take
each
application
on
its
own
merits
and
look
at
the
situation
as
it
currently
exists,
and
that
current
situation
is.
There
is
ample
capacity
at
the
moment
to
accommodate
this
development
I
suppose
that
is
a
consideration
of
each
development
proposal
as
it
comes
through.
A
That's
right:
it's
a
fair
point:
counselor
Patterson
I
think
we
understand
what
you're
what
you're
getting
at
with
it.
So
any
further
questions
I
have
a
mover
and
councilor
Owen
Jones
and
the
secondary
counselor
and
Neil
to
open
councilman
Jones.
C
So
I'd
just
like
to
start
by
saying
on
behalf
of
counselor
O'neill
and
myself,
that
we
love
trees
as
well,
yeah
yeah,
and
that
we
accept
the
fact
that
the
office
is
going
to
maybe
going
to
come
back
to
us
at
council
with
a
little
bit
of
tightening
that
sees
the
further
protection
of
that
tree
long
after
the
developer
has
gone,
but
being
mindful
of
the
fact
that
trees
grow
and
trees
die.
C
So
what
we
want
to
do
is
protect
it
for
as
long
as
possible,
because
part
of
the
charm
of
this
particular
area
is
the
kissing,
canopy
and
and
the
ability
of
those
trees
to
to
to
add
to
the
the
streetscape.
So
I
think
it
is
interesting
that
there
was
a
volume
of
submitters
who
showed
enough
concern
to
to
put
it
in
writing.
C
Even
I
think
that
there
was
130,
odd
pro-formal
ones,
which
indicates
that
they
got
together
as
a
group
and
gave
it
some
thought
and
then
clearly
if
they
read
the
report,
they'll
benefit
from
the
officers
having
stepped
through
each
of
their
concerns
and
addressing
them.
The
traffic
concern
is
one
that
comes
up
a
fair
bit,
particularly
as
areas
transition
and
change,
and
this
is
the
first
of
this
type
of
development
in
this
immediate
Precinct,
but
I
think
that
the
officers
have
done
a
pretty
good
job
in
arriving
at
their
recommendations.
Today,.
E
Thank
you.
This
is.
This
has
been
a
really
special
and
interesting
proposal
for
the
local
community.
It
is
perhaps
one
of
the
oldest
areas
of
the
coast,
and
it's
one
that
people
really
value
and
treasure
the
character
of
that
area.
It
is
a
shock
to
Residents
when
they
see
it
all
at
low
res
effectively
and
getting
their
heads
around
that.
This
is
something
that
is
intended
and
proposed
and
again
I
do
want
to
thank
the
officers
for
their
work
in
in
working
with
residents
along
that
journey.
E
The
local
community
covers
it
from
head
to
toe,
but
I
would
be
asking
through
you
chair
to
counselor
Aaron
Jones,
whether
he
would
consider
increasing
the
bond
to
250
000,
which
I
think
given
the
scale
of
the
total
value
of
this
development,
and
given
the
importance
on
this
to
achieve
the
uplift
would
would
seem
a
reasonable.
C
Yeah
yeah,
so
so
I
think
the
simple
answer
is
no,
but
the
that,
though
the
officers
are
going
to
come
back
to
us
between
now
and
counsel,
with
some
tightening
of
that
and
and
if
between
now
and
then
you
can
come
up
with
a
reasonable
argument
as
to
why
it
should
more
than
double
and
like
I
mean
I'd
actually
prefer
to
see
it
not
increase
in
volume,
but
extend
in
time.
C
You
know
so,
but
I'd
I'd
be
mindful
of
it
not
extending
too
far
past
the
logical
transfer
of
responsibility
from
a
developer
through
to
the
body
corporate,
so
I
think
there's
a
balance
there,
but
my
gut
feeling
is
250.
Isn't
the
answer.
A
D
Jay
yeah,
I,
love,
trees,
too,
and
I
would
certainly
support
an
increased
level
of
that
Bond
I
think
is
appropriate
and-
and
it's
not
unreasonable,
but
we'll
debate
that
at
Council
just
indicating
my
support
for
that
at
this
point.
D
D
What
I
also
see
is
something
that
seems
quite
closely
akin
to
what
we
anticipated
in
our
Amendment
package,
in
which
the
state
government
refused
and
rejected,
because
it
was
undesirable,
unachievable
and
unaffordable.
Whatever
else
they
come
up
with
and
I
think
that
this
is
probably
a
good
trendsetter.
So
to
speak
for
this
vicinity,
I'll
be
supporting
the
proposal
thanks.
B
B
But
hopefully
the
comments
around
the
tree
and
retention
of
it
have
haven't
been
too
Off,
the
Mark
I
know
change
can
be
confronting
four
neighborhoods,
and-
and
this
is
not
without
precedent-
on
this
particular
block
but
I,
actually
quite
like
the
look
of
this
building,
I
think
architecturally
it
you
know
it
presents
really
well
and
I
think
it
provides
a
pretty
sympathetic
interface
to
Southport,
both
with
the
retention
of
the
tree,
but
also
that
brick
style
stenciling
to
the
adjacent
home.
B
A
Yeah
cast
about
alums
anything
from
you
on
this
one,
so
just
before
I
go
to
council
Alan
Jones
to
close
I.
Think
it's
worth
saying.
Thank
you
to
the
submitters
on
this
one,
not
just
in
the
sheer
amount
of
submitters,
but
also
in
the
quality
of
the
submissions
that
came
in
also
how
they've
conducted
themselves
so
I
have
been
contacted
by
several
submitters
and
I
know.
A
Thank
you
to
Mick
for
attending
the
town
hall
meeting
the
council,
Patterson
organized
I,
had
I
think
every
single
one
of
the
people
I've
spoken
to
raised
that
as
being
a
great
thing
to
have
someone
prepared
to
come
along
and
answer
questions
face
to
face
when
we
talk
of
the
missing
middle
in
terms
of
infield
development
in
our
city,
I
think
this
is
a
prime
example
of
what
that
looks
like
this
is
the
kind
of
product
that
we
need
to
achieve.
A
Our
dwelling
Targets
in
this
city
I
believe
it's
the
kind
of
product
with
the
changes
that
have
occurred
through
negotiation
on
built
form
and
Landscaping
that
will
add
to
the
character
and
identity
of
an
area
in
the
future,
really
excellent
work
by
officers.
It
is
obvious,
through
the
report
and
obvious
in
the
detail
back
the
submitters.
A
There
has
been
a
lot
of
negotiation
with
the
applicant
and
it
would
appear
the
applicant's
done
that
in
good
faith
in
understanding
that
they
are
trying
to
achieve
a
social
license
to
be
the
first
of
this
kind
of
development
in
the
area,
and
hopefully
they
do
everything
that
they're
saying
they're
going
to
do
and
they
do
protect
that
tree
and
we
look
forward
to
some
suggested
wording
from
offices
around
some
stronger
words
on
that
particular
condition,
and
a
review
of
the
bond
amount
before
full
Council
Council
on
Jones
to
close.
A
A
Okay,
that
is
the
understanding
I
have
we
would
and
I
would
strongly.
A
U
A
Okay,
okay,
the
kids
are
getting
restless.
Let's
move
on
so
councilor
vorster
doesn't
need
a
presentation
he's
had
his
and
I've
had
one
as
well
from
offices.
Council
of
also
does
have
a
proposed
change.
Councilor
officers,
aware
of
that
one
yeah
it's
in
the
chamber,
support
inbox
so
we'll
get
that
up
on
the
screen
and
just
make
sure
that
the
manager
and
director
are
all
over
it.
B
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
when
we
go
to
community
consultation
effectively.
No,
no,
that
the
issues
of
infrastructure
and
uplifted
development
are
actually
quite
separate.
B
A
It
you
absolutely
can
okay
can
I
just
check
quickly,
Roger
Catherine,
no
concerns
or
that
additional
wording.
That's
all
workable
for
you
guys.
Q
Through
the
chair
like
it's,
the
the
challenge
for
us
is
just
where
we
fitted
into
the
engagement
strategy
that
we've
prepared,
so
we've
got
key
messages
and
content
in
the
strategy.
So
it's
just
how
we
weave
it
into
that
work,
so
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
yeah
in
terms
of
wording.
You
can
work
with
that.
Yeah
I
think
so
we
might
have
to
massage
some
of
the
words
but
yeah
okay.
A
So
maybe,
as
an
undertaking
before
for
Council
can
Council
the
vorster
and
Richard
and
Catherine
have
a
chat
about
just
making
sure
we've
got
the
exact
words
to
meet
with
Council
of
horses
and
tent
is,
but
also
what
officers
can
work
with
inside.
We
can
do
that.
Yeah.
B
And
Mr
open
it
probably
provide
a
bit
of
context
to
city
offices
now,
but
look
over
the
last.
What
eight
years
we've
had
many
discussions
in
this
room.
A
two-fold
discussion
is
actually
one
about
the
potential
for
Robina
to
help
deliver
housing
and
economic
activity,
but
two
also
acknowledging
the
incredible
infrastructure
constraints
and
those
constraints
really
have
to
do
with
the
way
in
which
the
road
network
was
laid
out
at
the
foundation
of
the
suburb.
B
When
the
suburb
was
there
to
cater
for
a
population
within
a
much
much
more
confined
catchment
than
we
have
now
in
the
live
reality
any
other
CBD,
you
would
have
a
grid
Road
system,
for
example.
That
would
give
us
more
opportunities
of
protecting
and
preserving
Road
corridors
and,
using
you
know,
roads
in
newer
novel
ways,
for
example,
providing
a
light
rail
connection.
But
we've
got
this
incredibly
difficult,
Ring,
Road
and
collection
of
roundabouts
that,
at
certain
times
of
the
day,
grind
the
precinct
down
to
an
absolute
halt.
B
And
that
is
not
to
say
that
that
infrastructure
will
fall
to
the
council
or
to
the
rate
payer
to
deliver
and
I
think
that's
critically
important.
But
while
we're
working
with
the
state
government
on
the
Olympic,
Games
Village
and
their
desires
to
deliver
the
balance
Precinct
as
a
mixed
use,
yeah
there,
we
go
mixed
use,
Utopia
that
we
actually
say
to
them.
In
exchange
for
these
uplifted
property
rights,
you
will
be
on
the
hook
for
a
contribution
to
this
economic
Hub
and
that
could
look
like
protection
or
delivery
of
a
future
light.
B
Rail
spur
progression
of
the
East-West
rapid
bus
transit
link
or
it
could
be
significant
investment
into
the
M1
interchangers,
which
actually
strangling
the
road
Network.
At
the
moment,
so
I
think
the
community
should
be
able
to
get
behind
a
new
40-year
vision,
but
I
think
the
community
should
also
be
able
to
name
their
pound
of
Flesh
or
measure
their
pound
of
Flesh
from
the
state.
And
hopefully
this
little
tweak
will
capture
that
in
the
consultation
process.
Very.
A
A
D
A
Just
in
wondering
what
are
is,
there's
no
item
to
attach
it.
To
so,
is
it
a
gbi?
You
want
to
try
and
do
enclosed
yeah
like
that's
correct,
so
I'm
gonna
have
to
just
check
it
quickly,
but
don't
we
need
to
introduce
the
gbi
wording
before
we
could
go
into
closed
I.
Don't
think
we
can
go
into
close
without
it
can
we
I
just
did.
D
A
So
only
so
I
don't
really
put
my
foot
in
it.
On
my
first
day.
Up
here
can
I
just
check.
I
should
have
spoken
with
you
earlier.
That's
okay,
but
can
I
could
I
just
check
any
concern
with
how
that
is
done,
Council
Aaron
Jones
in
terms
of
a
flow
of
process.
So
if.
C
A
A
A
A
A
All
those
in
favor,
thank
you
very
good.
So
as
a
result
of
that,
it's
all
right.
As
a
result
of
that
conversation,
we
don't
have
a
gbi
that
we're
going
to
introduce
today.
So
that
brings
us
to
the
end
of
our
meeting
being
there.
No
other
matters
can
we
say
a
thank
you
to
Lucy
and
the
other
officers
today,
for
there
was
a
bit
of
stuff
around
today,
so
good
work
with
that
really
well
done.