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A
Councillors
attended
an
apologies,
there's
an
apology
from
councillor
taylor
move,
accept
an
apology
secondary.
I
move
council
peter
young,
secondary
council
of
tozer
or
in
photo.
B
A
All
right
leave
of
absence,
neil
confirmation
minutes
counselors
any
oh.
Before
we
go
that
morning,
prayer
heavenly
father
granted
we
who
would
seek
to
serve.
You
may
have
the
wisdom
of
your
spirit
and
the
guiding
of
your
hand
and
the
grace
to
serve
together
for
the
prosperity
of
our
city
through
jesus
christ.
Our
lord
amen,
confirmation
minutes
any
corrections.
A
Procedural
motion
to
close
local
government's
budget
rating
concessions
are
the
the
reason
move.
Counselor
pauline
young
second
accounts
through
gates
all
in
fair,
show,
hands
against
motion
carry
streaming
on.
A
A
A
C
C
Thank
you
if
you're
happy
to
take
that
motion
I'll
speak
to
her.
No
I'll
just
say
this.
A
I
can't
counselor
peter
young
casagate,
mr.
A
A
C
Right,
council
teresa,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
since
the
23rd
of
may,
where
we
discussed
the
differential
rates
and
and
matters
relating
to
that
I've
had
some
time
to
think.
We've
also
been
provided
some
example
properties
across
every
division,
where
the
impact
on
our
rates
deliberations
this
year
have
been
able
to
be
reviewed,
and
it
occurs
to
me
without
disclosing
any
confidential
information
that
this
is
a
unique
environment,
a
unique
climate.
C
The
property
market
has
increased
significantly
over
the
last
12
to
24
months,
we've
seen
rental
increase
and
in
our
current
model
it
is
commonly
known
that
if
a
rate
payer
pays
their
rates
on
time,
they
are
entitled
to
a
10
discount.
C
Every
single
person
who
owns
a
property
in
the
city
and
lives
in
that
property
should
continue
to
get
that
10
discount.
They
should
be
looked
after.
This
is
a
difficult
climate,
but
in
this
current
property
climate
it
occurs
to
me
that
investment
properties
should
not
receive
a
discount
for
paying
on
time.
C
Every
resident
who
lives
in
their
property
should
get
that
discount.
But
in
this
current
climate
I
see
no
better
time
to
ensure
that
someone
who
might
be
paying
somewhere
between
two
thousand
or
three
thousand
dollars
in
rates
instead
of
giving
them
a
200
discount
for
paying
on
time
that
they
pay
that
extra,
and
I
think
they
understand
the
pressures
that
our
city
are
in
at
the
moment.
C
C
It
is
no
secret
that
the
cpi
is
expected
to
increase,
and
whilst
we
have
committed
as
a
council
to
see
rates
stay
below
cpi,
the
the
outcome
with
this
budget
is
is
likely
to
see
you
know.
Rates
closer
to
cpi
than
the
rate
increases
happened
in
previous
years.
I'm
I'm
strongly
behind
that
commitment
to
keep
rates
down.
C
But
in
this
case,
when
investment
property
owners
in
the
city
have
yielded
such
positive
returns,
it
seems
the
right
time
to
leverage
only
the
penalties
for
late
payment,
as
opposed
to
penalties
of
late
payment
and
an
incentive
for
payment
on
time.
This
is
the
year
that
we
should
do
that
and
yeah.
I
hope
my
counselors
will
support
me.
D
I
think
we
need
to
be
looking
after
the
whole
of
the
city
at
the
moment
to
maintain
as
much
of
the
status
quo
as
we
can
to
remove
this
discount
at
this
point
in
time,
when
we've
already
had
lengthy
discussion
about
it,
we've
been
through
all
the
the
pros
and
cons
and
to
land
with
trying
to
hit
up
the
investors
in
this
city.
At
this
time,
I
think,
is
a
really
poor
move.
Many
of
the
so-called
investors
in
the
city
are
just
young
folk
trying
to
get
ahead.
D
E
Smith,
I
think
that
was
against.
If
you
don't
mind-
and
I
was
going
to
speak
for
my
favorite.
But
if
you
don't
want
to.
E
Through
you
to
the
director
on
a
property
with
that
pays
about
2
500
rates
per
annum,
the
10
discount
represents
a
value
of
250
dollars.
Am
I
right.
F
E
Based
on
general
right,
yes,
that's
correct,
yes,
thank
you,
and
do
you
have
an
estimate
of
the
number
of
properties
that
would
be
affected
by
this
decision
if
it
was
made,
that'll
be.
F
E
Well,
miss
mayor
I'll
speak
in
favor
of
councillor
toaster's
motion,
because
I
don't
think
that
the
two
or
three
hundred
dollars
per
year
is
such
an
impost
on
those
property
owners
and
I
don't
think
that's
going
to
have
a
big
effect
on
the
property
market
or
the
rental
market.
E
E
I
think
we've
got
to
be
very
careful
about
how
we
consider
this,
whereas
the
potential
values
of
the
city
of
not
providing
that
10
discount
to
tens
of
thousands
of
properties
across
the
city
is
a
significant
amount
of
money
that
we
can
put
into
infrastructure
and
the
services
that
our
city
really
needs
and
which
is
it's
crying
out
for.
So
I
think
that
there's
merit
in
the
proposal
and
I
don't
think
that
it
really
will
have
such
a
degrading
effect
on
the
rental
market.
Thanks
cancer
vorster.
B
B
So
much
of
our
budget
discussions
today
have
been
constrained
by
lots
of
realities,
but
here's
an
opportunity
for
us
as
a
council
to
lay
down
a
marker
and
indicate
very
strongly
to
the
community
what
our
thinking
is
in
terms
of
managing
their
money
and
mr
mayor,
when
I
approach
the
budget,
I'm
sure
it's
the
same,
for
maybe
all
of
us
or
maybe
just
some
of
us.
I
always
hold
that.
B
If,
if
council
can't
manage
its
own
budget
right,
then
we
start
impacting
everyone
else's
household
budgets.
So
it's
really
important
for
us
to
have
discipline
around
the
way
that
we
manage
public
money,
because
other
families
out
there
in
the
community
they're
forced
to
exercise
that
discipline
out
of
necessity.
B
What
I'm
really
concerned
about
with
councillor
toza's
motion
and
full
credit
to
him
for
standing
up
on
an
issue
that
he
firm,
believes
firmly
in
what
I'm
really
concerned
about.
Is
that
it's
five
minutes
to
midnight?
B
B
What
his
motion
actually
does
is
collects
the
money
and
puts
it
into
some
generic
was
it.
Let
me
read
here
strategic
priorities
reserve
and
for
me,
I
suppose
that's
what
makes
the
motion
so
galling,
because
it's
five
minutes
to
midnight
it's
going
to
collect
all
this
money
from
people
and
we're
not
actually
even
explaining
to
the
community
what
we'd
use
that
money
for,
but
actually
collect
it
and
just
chuck
it
in
a
reserve.
B
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
no
one
is
actually
feeling
any
rates
relief
because
we're
still
going
to
collect
the
same
amount
of
money
rates
aren't
going
down.
All
we're
going
to
do
is
put
it
in
some
budget
and
decide
at
a
later
date.
What
we're
going
to
be
spending
it
on.
If
councillor
tozo
proposed
that
this
new
revenue
would
be
used
for
project
x,
y
and
z,
perhaps
we
can
understand
what
the
trade-off
might
be.
B
For
that
reason,
I
can't
support
what
councillor
toes
is
saying,
and
I
just
want
to
echo
a
comment
that
councillor
gates
made
and
that
we
have
a
housing
crisis
at
the
moment.
It's
a
housing
crisis
around
affordability,
but
there's
also
a
rental
crisis
with,
I
think
the
vacancy
rate
on
the
gold
coast
now
below
0.4
percent.
I
think
it's
sitting
by
the
0.38
or
0.39
percent
those
renters
right.
They
are
competing.
It's
almost
like
the
hunger
games.
B
I've
been
told
trying
to
find
a
rental,
and
the
last
thing
that
we
want
is
for
those
who
are
investing
in
property
to
sell
up
their
investments
because
they're
becoming
too
costly
to
hold,
especially
for
fear
of
higher
interest
rates
and
for
those
rental
properties
to
be
lost
to
the
market.
Because,
mr
mayor
then
there'll
be
even
fewer
opportunities
for
people
to
find
a
rental.
B
I
feel
very
strongly
that
the
best
time
to
find
savings
is
in
the
budget
process
and
every
time
that
we
levy
funds
levy
extra
funds.
We
actually
need
to
tell
the
community
what
those
funds
will
be
used
for
right,
because
it's
their
money.
We
need
to
be
explaining
how
their
money
will
be
spent,
I'm
just
hesitant
taking
more
of
their
money.
B
If
we
support
this
motion
and
not
explaining
the
reasons
why
we
are
to
say
that
we're
merely
allocating
it
to
the
strategic
priorities
reserve,
mr
mayor,
I
don't
think
passes
the
pub
test
or
the
sniff
test.
I
think
we
need
to
be
doing
more
to
protect
the
supply
of
rental
properties
on
the
coast.
It
might
only
be
250
dollars,
mr
mayor,
but
it's
like
the
camel
right.
I
was
telling
my
boy
about
this
the
other
day,
so
you've
got
a
camel.
B
Maybe
it's
a
hundred
straws,
no
dramas,
a
bale
of
hay,
even
no
dramas,
but
eventually
you
will
get
that
one
straw
that
breaks
the
camel's
back
and
in
light
of
all
sorts
of
maintenance
costs
in
light
of
labor
costs,
body
corporate
fees
going
up
interest
rates
going
up
the
250
dollars.
Mr
mayor
might
be
the
straw
that
breaks
the
camel's
back
just
lastly,
for
those
locals
who
are
attempting
to
have,
we
had
to
have
a
start,
and
councillor
gates
talked
about
that.
B
There
are
many
who
take
advantage
of
rent
vesting
right,
so
they
will.
They
will
put
everything
on
the
line
in
order
to
buy
a
property
right,
but
they're
actually
renting
elsewhere.
This
would
hit
them
twice.
This
would
absolutely
hit
them
twice,
their
rents
will
go
up
and
their
rates
will
go
up
and
I
don't
think
we
should
be
doing
anything
to
dissuade
the
aspirational
gold
coaster.
G
No,
mr
mayor,
I'm
against
the
motion,
but
I
just
wanted
to
raise
an
issue
that
I
feel
has
been
probably
missed
here.
G
G
I
feel
that
we
should
be
really
gearing
into
the
state
government
to
get
our
fair
share
of
the
land
tax,
that's
being
lodged
against
a
lot
of
these
rental
properties.
I
don't
know
what
the
increases
are
in
this
latest
round,
but
I'm
I'm
sure
that
would
be
a
fair
amount.
So
I
think
that
council
should
be
looking
at
the
state
government
to
get
our
fair
share
of
the
the
amount
that's
going
to
be
charged
against
these
rental
properties.
G
G
The
other
issue
that
I
get
concerned
about
with
some
of
these
investment
properties
that
don't
pay
on
time
is
that
they
use
cancer
or
the
rate
pays
as
a
banker,
and
I
I
think
that
that's
one
of
the
areas
that
we
have
to
address,
but
certainly,
mr
may,
I
have
always
supported
the
10
and
I'll
continue
to
do
that.
H
You,
mr
mayor,
and
just
back
to
council
the
gates
and
back
to
councillor
vorster.
H
I
would
be
very
surprised
if
I
would
speak
to
any
investor
that
would
sell
a
property
for
less
than
a
dollar
a
day,
we're
talking
250
a
year
here.
I
don't
know
and
we're
talking
94
000
properties
here
for
and
and
you
yourself,
as
well
as
other
people
within
this
room,
have
investment
properties.
H
As
I
do
myself,
and
I
don't
if
it
means
going
into
whether
it's
the
wrong
wording
is
strategic
budget
bucket
or
because
we
do
know
that
we
have
other
areas
that
we
could
allocate,
that
for
infrastructure
within
the
city,
for
our
roads,
for
our
footpaths,
for
our
parks
for
the
green
heart
for
all
of
those
things,
but
for
pizzi
park
too.
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I'm
I'm
actually
stan
I'm
going
to
abstain
on
this
vote
and
I
wanted
to
explain
why
the
I
I
get
the
underlying
intent
of
this
motion
and,
as
you
know,
I
was
pretty
rigorous
during
debate
and
looking
at
this,
and
I
requested
some
information
which
I
think
is
really
really
important,
and
I
I
I
get
the
the
premise
of
it.
F
However,
without
that
information,
I
think
it's
too
much
of
a
a
heavy-handed
approach
to
something
that
makes
actually
quite
a
significant
difference
for
me,
it's
very
important
to
understand
how
that
discount
impacts
on
across
the
board
on
principal
residents
and
investment
properties
in
terms
of
the
profile
of
people
who
cannot
even
actually
make
that
discount.
So
just
want
to
be
clear.
That's
why
I'll
be
abstaining
today,
okay,.
I
Thanks,
mr
mayor,
might
just
start
by
saying
I
really
am
torn
on
the
decision,
but
the
points
I
just
wanted
to
raise
that
maybe
haven't
been
aired
that
do
support.
It
really
are
that,
okay,
as
a
young
person,
I
can't
afford
to
own
a
home,
I'm
actually
not
a
rate
payer.
I
don't
see
some
of
the
other
comments
that
were
made.
I
I
don't
see
investors
in
the
city
as
for
the
most
part,
young
people
having
a
go,
the
people
that
have
properties
that
are
permanent
rentals
as
council
pauline
young
said
250
a
year.
Doesn't
it's
not
going
to
cause
them
to
relinquish
their
investment
property?
That
equates
to
a
couple
of
dollars
a
week,
the
price
of
rentals
at
the
moment
gone
up,
50,
100,
150
or
more
dollars
a
week.
It
doesn't
correlate
directly.
I
The
financial
impact
this
has
on
the
investor
doesn't
correlate
to
the
way
the
rental
market's
going
at
the
moment.
Those
are
the
points
I
wanted
to
raise
that
obviously
support
the
motion.
My
hesitancy
here,
though,
is
this
kind
of,
is
it's?
A
big
change
hasn't
been
aired
with
community
in
any
kind
of
way,
as
council
of
australia
is
very
late
in
the
piece.
That's
why
I'm
very
torn
so
I
hope
there
is
more
discussion,
so
I
can
have
a
bit
more
time
to
consider
where
I'm
going
but
yeah.
A
All
right
against
against
the
motion
council
on
jones.
J
I'm
going
to
speak
against
the
motion,
but
primarily
not
because
I
don't
think
that
we
should
review
the
discounts
in
general,
but
because
of
the
targeted
nature
of
it,
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
challenges
that
we
have
in
regards
to
explaining
our
rating
system
to
our
residents
and
our
non-residents
across
the
280,
odd
thousand
rate
payers
that
are
in
the
city
is,
is
made
up
of
the
the
base
that
the
state
government
provides
us
through
the
land
valuation
and
then
our
differential
system
and
then
in
and
then
overlaying
that
we
apply
a
discount.
J
And
I
don't
have
a
problem
in
us
at
some
point
in
time
reviewing
that
discount.
But
I
think
it
needs
to
be
done
in
a
very
global
sense,
rather
than
than
what
has
been
suggested
today,
which
is
quite
targeted
and
targeted
at
a
particular
group
of
property
owners
in
the
city.
So,
mr
mayor,
I
I
won't
be
supporting
this
motion,
but
I
also
will
be
voting
against
the
foreshadowed
motion,
because
I
think
that
if
we
look
across
the
southeast
queensland
councils,
there
are
some
that
have
provide
a
flat
discount
and
that's
quite
easy.
J
In
my
view,
for
property
owners
to
understand
a
flat
discount,
just
as
it's
easy
for
them
to
understand
a
10
discount,
what
where
we
run
into
issues,
I
think,
is
if
we,
if
we
introduce
a
third
lever,
that's
just
aimed
at
targeting
those
investors
alone
through
through
the
the
discount.
So
I
think
that
we
actually
need
to
be
far
more
broad
in
our
review
and
I'll
close
by
I'll
close.
My
comments
by
saying
that
I
wasn't
a
part
of
the
special
budget
meeting,
because
I
had
to
leave
early
where
this
was
discussed
at
length.
J
A
Look
forward
to
discussing
your
next
budget
on
the
flat
discount,
because
I've
got
a
different
view
there
to
you
now
we're
in
the
we're
in
debate
we're
in
debate
right.
So
excuse
me,
okay,
so
you
speak
against
for
the
motion.
A
No
one's
for
the
motion-
okay,
I
to
add
additional
bits
to
it.
So
all
I
could
say
is
that
next
year,
so
from
what
I've
learned
learned
is
that
we'll
grab
when
we
get
to
next
year's
debate
on
discounts?
A
I
will
say
to
you
that
we'll
discuss
and
adopt
a
council
resolution
well
early
in
and
peace
so
that
we
don't
re,
get
rediscussed
during
from
time
to
time
to
go
out
that
item's
mentioned
this
item's
mentioned
so
well,
probably,
I
think
I'll
be
asking
the
ceo
to
go
right
regarding
discounts
on
conceptually.
A
C
We
were
provided
some
information
on
the
23rd
of
may.
That
is
unconfidential
papers
that
I
can't
explore
in
full
and,
and
it
is
quite
appropriate
that
remained
confidential
because
that's
what
council
has
resolved,
but
today
we
are
the
30th
of
may
and
dealing
with
matters
about
the
concessions
foregone
revenue.
That
is
the
name
of
the
item
that
we
are
discussing
here,
and
this
is
the
time
where
we
discuss
the
concessions
as
a
council
that
we
make
where
we
forego
revenue
that
we
would
otherwise
collect.
C
So
during
debate,
we've
heard
that
it's
five
minutes
at
midnight,
but
but,
mr
mayor,
this
is
the
time
when
we
discuss
concessions.
This
is
the
time
where
we
discuss
foregone
revenue.
We
are
not
five
minutes
to
midnight.
We
are
at
the
appropriate
time
in
our
budget
discussions
to
just
to
to
talk
about
the
concessions
we
offer
as
a
council
to
those
people
who
are
entitled
to
concessions
and
those
concessions
are
a
number
of
different
concessions.
Some
of
them
are
early
payment
discounts.
C
C
The
other
thing
you've
heard
in
debate,
mr
mayor,
is
that
there
are
94
000
properties,
that
this
motion
impacts
and
they
are
the
non-ppr
non-principal
place
of
residence
or
permanent
rental
properties,
and
you've
also
heard
in
debate
that
a
hypothetical
amount
of
rates
that
those
properties
might
pay
might
be
between
two
and
three
thousand
dollars,
and
the
number
was
thrown
around
about
two
hundred
fifty
dollars
in
debate.
When
you
multiply
ninety
five
thousand
properties
by
two
hundred
and
fifty
dollars,
you
get
more
than
twenty
million
dollars,
and
that
is
what
we're
talking
about.
C
C
Mr
mayor
council,
baldwin
lumsen,
rightfully
said
that
a
number
of
his
young
friends-
and
I
don't
mean
that
in
any
sort
of
patronizing
way,
but
they've
seen
their
rents
increased
by
50
to
100
a
week,
and
that
is
quite
a
lot
of
money
and
what
we
are
talking
about
here
when
we
use
the
information
shared
in
debate
of
250
per
year,
is
around
the
five
dollars
a
week.
We
also
heard
from
councillor
young
as
an
investment
property
owner.
C
I
am
not
an
investment
property
owner,
I
don't
have
an
investment
property,
but
as
a
as
an
investment
property
owner,
she
has
said
very
clearly
that
an
investment
property
owner
is
very
unlikely
to
divest
of
their
property
for
the
sake
of
250
per
year.
The
reason
this
is
important
and
the
reason
that
this
reserve
is
the
right
place
is
because
council
needs
to
respond
to
community
need
when
it
arises,
and
we
need
to
identify
solutions
to
problems
that
our
community
face
and
the
strategic
priority
reserve
does
exactly
that.
C
This
contribution
of
as
we've
calculated
about
20
million
dollars,
it's
possibly
a
bit
less
than
that
might
be
a
bit
more
than
that
can
be
apportioned
to
a
project
we
decide
on
that
can
invest
to
impact
the
people
and
the
members
of
our
community.
That
might
be
most
impacted
by
the
removal
of
the
early
payment
discount.
C
Frankly,
mr
mayor,
the
final
thing
I'll
say
is
that
we
also
heard
in
debate
that
of
the
people
of
the
94
000
properties,
in
fact
of
the
non-residential
properties
in
our
city
six
or
seven
years
ago,
we
heard
that
30
of
people
who
are
center
rates
notice
live
outside
the
city.
C
So
today
it's
been
talked
about
how
much
this
might
impact
people
who
live
in
the
city,
but
this
is
people
who
who
live
outside
the
city
and
and
have
identified
the
city
as
a
place
where
they
want
to
invest
and
that's
great,
but
I'm
convinced
that
they
also
need
to
make
sure
they
pay
their
fair
share
and
providing
them
a
10
discount
for
payment
on
time
or
early
is
not
the
right
way
to
go
this.
C
These
funds
should
not
be
returned
to
people
who
invest
in
property
in
our
city.
It
should
be
invested
into
community
projects
and
strategic
projects
that
lift
the
quality
of
life
for
everyone
in
our
city
and
not
just
those
who
invest
in
property.
I
really
hope
that
my
council
colleagues
will
support
this
motion.
I
think
this
is
the
right
time.
C
A
D
D
It's
something
that's
had
lengthy
discussion
and
it's
something
that
the
rest
of
our
decisions
to
this
point
in
time
in
formulating
the
budget
have
been
made
with
this
as
a
premise
that
we
would
retain
the
10
discount.
So
every
other
decision
that's
been
made.
We
have
known
that
we're
going
to
have
that
money
sacrifice
for
the
people
who
perhaps
expect
that
discount.
D
That's
something
that
I
think
is
really
important,
that
we
are
one
of
the
few
local
governments
left
that
offers
that
10
discount,
but
the
people
have
come
to
expect
it
and
it's
not
something
we
want
to
throw
upon
them
at
this
point
in
time.
When
we're
in
uncharted
waters,
we've
got
a
new
government.
We've
got
a
government,
that's
promising,
much
that
we're
uncertain
of
where
the
impacts
will
arise.
We
know
that
there's
pressure
on
interest
rates
and
that
there's
likely
to
be
four
more
increases
this
year.
D
We
know
that
people
searching
for
rental
accommodation
are
queuing
to
view
a
property
they're
offering
more
money
than
they're
even
advertised
at
just
to
get
a
roof
over
their
heads.
The
last
thing
we
want
to
do,
no
matter
how
tiny
it
may
be,
is
add
pressure
to
that
rental
market.
At
this
point
in
time,
we
do
want
to
encourage
young
folk
to
go
out
and
invest
in
our
city
and
and
mark
their
future.
It's
really
important
that
we
do
that.
A
Property
investment
more
than
any
other
investment.
It's
a
very
long-term
investment.
You
don't
it's
not
a
share
market
you
get
in
and
then
you
get
out.
So
when
you
analyze
to
acquire
property,
it
doesn't
matter
if
it's
residential
or
whatever
it
may
be.
The
time
frame
is
normally
we
can't
not
in
weeks
or
months,
but
in
years
and
and
when
you
do
that,
your
feasibility,
you
analyze
best,
you
can,
where
things
going
to
sit,
I'm
pretty
sure
a
property
investor
in
units
or
in
this
category
that
we
talked
about
before.
A
I
don't
think
any
investor
would
predict
that
that
potentially
the
10
percent
discount
would
evaporate
it.
So
so
I
just
bear
in
mind
that
when,
when
comes
around
next
year,
we
can,
I
think
we
can
talk
it
well
early,
even
before
the
first
thing
in
the
budget
season,
as
people
start
getting
the
feel
of
it
and
and
gives
a
chance
for
people
to
articulate
their
point
of
view
to
your
community
so
that,
whether
you're
being
southport,
labrador
or
whatever
you
know
it
might
be
that
you
don't
know
anyone.
A
Who's
has
an
investment
property
at
your
age.
Well,
go
to
young
young
professionals
functions
and
start
mingling
there
to
to
gather
information
in
the
next
12
months,
so
that
you're
well
armed.
When
we
come
to
this
debate
in
12
months
time
and
and
and
also
you
know
whatever
position,
you
want
to
do
absolutely.
It's
democracy,
articulate
that
position
at
the
next
election
and
make
sure
that
it's
right
there
in
the
forefront
people
know
when
they
vote
for
you.
They
know
what
they're
getting
not
they
voted
for
you
and
and
as
we
go.
A
Things
have
changed
without
them,
knowing
from
from
their
side
of
it,
that's
clear
and
transparency,
part
of
it
I
hand
back
to
cancer
gates
who,
to
close,
I
hope
you
didn't
mind
me
adding
a
little
bit
there.
D
Not
at
all
mr
mayor
and
there's
not
much
more
to
say,
but
in
my
view
this
would
be
just
the
start.
This
will
be
the
start.
If
we
had
supported
this
today,
it's
the
start
of
chipping
away
at
the
10,
and
we
know-
and
you
know
that
our
community
loves
that
discount
and
it
does
encourage
prompt
payment.
D
A
Motion
carried
moving
to
close
council
owned
jones
second
accounts
of
worster,
same
reason
as
the
previous
budgetary
and
the
other
matter
there
or
info
show
hands
against
motion
carried.
A
A
A
A
Moving
on
okay,
counselors
we're
at
7.2
on
the
screen,
there's
someone
like
to
move
that
motion
council
vorster.
Second
council
owen
jones,
council
of
also
you
like
to
speak
on
that.
No
thank
you.
Okay.