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From YouTube: City of Gold Coast Water, Waste & Energy - 8 June 2023
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00:00 Meeting Commences, Attendance/Apologies, Leave of Absence, Confirmation of Minutes, Conflict of Interest Declarations, Committee Forward Planning Schedule 5.1, Reports and Presentations 6.1, 6.2
01:00 Report 6.3
36:00 Report 6.4
1:11:00 General Business 8.1
1:17:00 Closed Session
1:48:00 Open Session Reports 7.1
1:49:00 Closed Session
Open Session, Meeting Closed
A
I
just
want
to
we've
got
a
full
contingent
of
oh
so
we
don't
have
a
full
continued
committee.
We
have
one
apology
but
I'll
just
welcome
our
visiting
councilors
Council
Pauline,
young
and
cancerone
Jones,
and
welcome
acting
mayor,
councilor
Gates,
who
will
be
a
Committee
Member
today
exercising
her
right,
I
have
an
apology
from
councilor
Castor.
Would
someone
like
to
move
that
apology,
councilor
Peter,
Young
seconded
Council,
McDonald,
all
those
in
favor?
A
That's
carried,
thank
you
and
if
everyone's
okay
I
will
star
the
confirmation
of
minutes
of
last
meeting,
we
have
other
start
items
5.1,
6.1
and
6.2.
Would
anyone
like
to
unstar
any
of
those
items
or
move
the
start
on
happy
to
move
the
start
items
Council
to
HOSA
and
seconded
Council
McDonald,
all
those
in
favor
that's
carried
in
queue?
A
We
have
6.3
item
6.3,
which
is
in
open
and
Kathy
and
I
believe
Mariam
was
is
going
to
present
as
well
as
she's
just
coming
through
the
door.
Now
it's
a
quick
trip
from
across
the
road
she
was
trying
to
get
a
park.
B
So,
thank
you
councilors.
This
is
Miriam
heshmat.
She
is
our
executive
coordinator
of
sustainable
planning.
Her
team
has
been
running
the
water
strategy
and
the
implementation
of
a
number
of
of
projects
through
that,
and
one
of
the
projects
that
we're
looking
at
is
a
demonstration
project
that
that
delivers
on
some
good
outcomes
in
naturalization
of
stormwater
channels.
B
C
You
thanks
for
the
time
that
you've
given
me
to
present
the
Abbott
Park
China
naturalization
project
before
I
move
on
to
is
this
the
okay
before
I
move
on
to
the
actual
project?
I
would
like
to
remind
ourselves
of
if
this
project
actually
fits
in
an
align
with
our
strategic
intent
and
what
we've
actually
promised
the
community
to
deliver
our
corporate
plan.
C
We
promised
that
we
will
balance
the
city
course
with
our
natural
environment,
and
we
have
also
promised
the
community
that
we
will
manage
our
resources
for
a
sustainable
future
and
our
one
city
theme.
We
also
promised
that
we
will
address
the
challenge
of
climate
change
through
practical
and
sensible
solutions
that
deliver
climate
resilience.
C
We
also
looked
at
our
city
strategies.
We
have
a
specific
actions
under
the
water
strategy,
but
this
project
also
delivers
on
outcomes
of
our
natural
City
strategy
and
our
store
Water
Management
plan,
specifically
on
water
strategy.
We
have
a
shorter
medium-term
objectives
where
we've
said
we
will
deliver
in
partnership
with
a
stakeholders.
C
Just
before
I
move
on
to
the
case,
examples
of
what
this
project
is
actually
trying
to
achieve.
Our
watering
strategy
is
trying
to
take
us
from
being
a
Seward
City.
We
get
water,
a
city
and
also
from
being
a
drainage
City
all
up
into
a
water-sensitive
city.
What
does
it
mean
is,
rather
than
just
providing
plumbing
services
to
the
city,
we're
trying
to
actually
incorporate
Place
making,
as
well
as
achieving
our
outcomes,
which
is
drainage
and
flood
management
up
there,
you
can
see
Holden,
Park,
Brisbane,
sorry,
Hanlon,
Park
Brisbane.
C
C
We're
also
currently
in
the
process
of
finalizing
our
climate
change
strategy.
Having
projects
like
this,
where
we
actually
plant
trees
and
create
opportunity
for
carbon
absorption
in
a
natural
way
is
one
of
the
best
ways
we
can
actually
build
that
adaptation
and
resilience
into
our
cities
and
communities.
C
The
second
row,
I
have
the
small
Creek
in
Ipswich.
On
the
left
hand,
side
is
what
it
looked
beforehand
and
on
the
right
hand,
side
is
what
it
looks
like
now.
C
Public
and
Community
love
this
well.
We
don't
have
any
of
these
examples
in
the
Gold
Coast
at
the
moment,
but
we
did
go
through
a
long
list
of
channels
across
the
city.
We
ended
up
shortlisting,
10
channels,
and
we
take
them
through
a
rigorous
process
for
ranking
and
to
a
multi-creditary
assessment.
C
As
part
of
that
process,
we
looked
at
Community
Access,
whether
it's
a
popular
location,
whether
this
actually
from
a
hydraulic
point
of
view,
will
make
sense,
assets,
life,
stakeholders,
acceptance
and
all
those
criteria,
and
this
area
is
called
Parkwood
and
the
channel
is
at
340
meters
of
linear
Waterway.
It's
all
Concrete
in
the
middle
of
a
park
called
Abbott
Park
Abbott
Park
is
very
popular
among
the
community
here
and
we
had
a
vision
for
this
to
potentially
become
our
first
case,
where
we
can
actually
learn.
C
So
it
might
feel
why
why
do
we
actually
repairs
concrete,
invest
the
money
and
do
this
in
a
channel?
C
We
need
to
have
one
example
for
our
Engineers,
our
environmentalists,
us
all
to
learn
and
see
how
these
systems
work,
so
that
in
future
we
can
build
this
sort
of
thinking
into
our
future
design
and
rather
than
actually
using
concrete,
which
also
has
a
very
large
environmental
footprint
amount
of
water
and
energy
consumed
to
produce
this
concrete.
It's
quite
scary,
so
we're
hoping
to
learn
and
then
build
this
sort
of
design
into
our
future.
C
Just
so
one
more
slide,
which
is
what
I'm
asking
for
we
are
not
asking
to
go
and
implement
this
project
tomorrow,
we're
asking
for
the
next
financial
year
to
be
able
to
invest
160k
into
doing
a
more
detailed
assessment
of
the
project.
It's
prudency
efficiency.
Do
the
detailed
site
survey
conduct
the
architecture
landscape,
what
it
can
look
like
better
engagement
with
the
community
and
also
confirm
the
multiple
benefits
of
undertaking
this
project?
And
yes,
so
that's
and
pretty
much
proof
of
concept.
D
Complicated
thanks
very
much
chairman.
You
mentioned
that
a
number
of
these
drains
exist
throughout
the
city.
How
many
concrete
drains
right
throughout
the
city
did?
Did
that
form?
Part
of
your
I
mean
I,
know
of
many
many
many
and
I
I.
Just
for
me
personally,
I
would
hope
there
was
a
ballpark
figure
of
what
the
cost
might
be.
Given
it's
a
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
for
potential
design.
B
B
We
don't
just
stock
standard,
replace
with
a
concrete
Channel
if
the
area
is
appropriate
to
be
looked
at
differently.
You
can't
have
this
sort
of
thing
everywhere,
like
if
you
go
down
to
coolangatta
where
I
live,
there's
a
concrete
channel
that
runs
right,
past
houses
and
there
is
no
ability
to
do
this
sort
of
thing.
The
small
Creek
one,
for
example,
the
the
part
of
the
con
construction
of
that
there
was
a
five-year
maintenance
thing
with
the
people
who
did
the
construction
and
then,
after
that,
the
weeds.
B
C
Both
those
projects,
so
the
SMA
class
for
the
Full
Construction,
is
1.6
million
and
I
agree
with
councilor
gets
that
we
are
not
proposing
to
go
and
replace
all
the
existing
channels.
We're
just
using
this.
As
a
case
of
study
and
I
agree,
there
are
examples
where
the
maintenance
costs
of
a
natural
solution
has
been
more,
but
the
the
thinking
has
moved
on
a
long
way
since
we
built
those.
There
are
now
native
species
that
actually
start
to
take
root
and
doesn't
actually
have
as
much
food
or
maintenance
issues.
C
D
B
We
had
no
I
suppose
control
over
what
what
went
in
them
and
those
types
of
things
like
we
could
go
in
and
Survey
them
to
see
what
plants
are
there,
but
we're
not
sure,
like
our
team,
isn't
sure
that
it
actually
was
done
in
the
new.
The
new
thinking
that's
been
around
and
the
new
ways
that
it
that
have
been
evolved
when
Smalls,
Creek
and
Hanlon
Park,
like
these
two
are
relatively
new.
B
Small
Creek
is
now
up
to
stage
three
I
think
it
is
for
the
next
part
of
the
creek
to
be
to
be
changed
out.
So
we're
learning
from
the
Ipswich
guys
around
the
maintenance
and
what
they
believe
is
issues
and
not
issues
as
well.
So
I,
yeah,
I,
can't
I
can't
say
that
we
can
use
our
Northern
Gold
Coast
ones
as
a
prime
example,
because
it
probably
wasn't
set
up
the
way
it
it
needed
to
be
set
up
to
understand
the
full
realm
of
of
I.
C
Okay:
okay,
we
did
have
several
engagements
with
the
stonewater
team
to
discuss
that
the
way
the
channels
work.
Actually
they
don't
need
a
replacement
of
the
whole
lengths
pretty
much
ever
they
can
actually
run
for
life
every
time.
A
block
of
concrete
fails
or
there's
a
crack.
They
just
patch
it.
C
So
we
try
to
find
a
channel
that
was
in
a
very
poor
condition
to
use
that
as
an
option,
but
there
there
is
no
such
a
thing,
so
it's
very
different
from
a
park
where
the
pipe
condition
gets
really
bad
and
then
they
have
to
replace
the
whole
length
in
this
case,
they've
been
just
patching,
but
there
were
some
safety
concerns
around.
D
I
I
just
have
a
concern
that
perhaps
you
could
ask
councilor
young
has
just
said
he
knows
with
a
few
shorter
ones
and
I
think
if,
if
this
is
just
for
a
a
trial
to
see
and
we're
not
anticipating
whole
scale
replacement
of
concrete
chains,
just
a
new
method
when
another
opportunity
comes
forward,
why
don't
we
do
a
smaller
one,
not
a
one.
That's
going
to
cost
a
couple
of
million
dollars,
I
mean
I
think
we
have
to
be
really
mindful
of
the
pressures
facing
everyone
right
now
and
I.
D
If
we
go
back
to
the
photograph
of
the
existing
drain,
it's
not
unsightly
I
mean
clearly
what
we
have
seen
on
the
newer.
The
newer
ones
is
a
superior
outcome.
I
don't
dispute
that
for
a
minute,
but
I
think
we
have
to
be
very
careful
about
replacing
a
drain.
That's
in
good
working
order,
except
for
a
little
bit
of
patching
that
goes
340
meters.
Long
I
certainly
might
be
able
to
support
that.
But
thank
you
for
answering
my
questions.
I'm.
E
You
young
and
yeah
I
actually
did
suggest
to
City
assets
about
another
drain,
some
of
this
one
through
Labrador,
simply
because
it's
critically
failing
in
a
number
of
spots,
I
think
it's
had
three
failure
points.
In
the
last
12
months,
each
of
them
haven't
been
repaired
properly,
they've
just
been
fenced
off,
with
Hazard
fencing
for
about
a
year
now,
I've
been
asking
why
the
maintenance
hasn't
been
undertaken,
that
sort
of
thing
and
ultimately
it's
come
down
to
the
cost,
to
repair
it
in
its
current
state.
E
So
they're
saying
that
in
itself
is
extremely
costly.
I
asked
about
this
conversion
option.
Unfortunately,
it
didn't
have
the
space
either
side
to
be
considered
in
this
project,
but
when
I
from
looking
into
these
projects
in
other
parts
of
Australia,
the
the
reporting
I've
seen
on
them
is
that
the
the
maintenance
costs
are
significantly
less
than
maintaining
of
these
type
of
drains.
Like
that's
my
question
Terry.
Is
that
that's
the
expected.
E
That's
I
think
that's
a
good
outcome
and
obviously
all
the
other
benefits
of
urban
Cooling
and
usability
and
visual
amenity
and
those
sort
of
things
are
all
great,
I
guess,
similar
kind
of
ones
where
councilor
Gates
asked
about
projects
in
the
north
of
the
city.
E
I,
don't
know
about
ones
in
the
north,
but
in
Arundel
Springs
there
was
a
developer
contributed
drain
there.
That
was
so
well
done
that
it's
formed
part
of
our
conservation
estate
and
the
the
project
they
did.
It's
won
national
awards
and
that
sort
of
thing
the
only
maintenance
I'm
aware
of
that
happens.
There
is
something
every
second
year
there's
a
bit
of
the
the
we
salvinia
is
dredging
the
word,
but
yeah
that
happens
harvesting.
That's
the
word
every
couple
of
years,
so
it's
very
well
done.
E
There's
not
much
maintenance
that
goes
in
there.
It's
beautiful,
it's
great
for
the
Wildlife
and
people
have
been
really
receptive
to
it.
I
know
that
there's
been
because
I've
seen
similar
projects
and
I've
spoken
about
them
online
previously
and
I've
had
a
lot
of
residents.
Who've
been
very
supportive
of
the
concept
this
park,
in
particular
in
this
drain.
In
particular,
there's
been
a
lot
of
Resident
concerns
about
the
drain,
to
the
point
where
I've
had
multiple
requests
to
actually
fence
the
entire
length
of
this
drain.
E
The
photo
I
think
because
the
angle
doesn't
really
show,
but
that
wall
is
about
60
centimeters,
so
it's
a
considerable
drop
and
then
either
side
of
the
drain.
The
grass
is
probably
about
another
half
a
meter
so
ends
up
with
quite
a
drop
I've
had
parents
talking
about
kids
riding
their
bikes
into
the
drain
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
there's
is
concern
about
this
drain
and
when
the
officer
suggested
would
I
be
supportive
of
this
project.
I
think
it's
a
great
one
and
obviously
not
just
for
this
area.
E
F
Separate
project,
it
was
suggested
by
me
from
officers
to
go
up
and
visit
Hanlon
Park.
It
was
in
regards
to
Dixon
reserve
and
then
what
that
project's
going
to
look
like
in
the
future,
so
they
suggested
I
go
up
to
Hanlon
Park
and
have
a
look
at
what
had
been
done
there
because,
probably
before
visiting
that
site,
I
would
have
shared
a
lot
of
concerns.
Councilor
Gates
has
raised
today,
but
I
have
to
admit
after
visiting
Hanlon
Park
and
seeing
on
the
ground
what
they've
actually
achieved
there.
F
It
was
fairly
mind-blowing
and
fairly
impressive,
especially
to
see
I
think
on
the
Saturday
I
visited,
probably
600
people
actually
using
the
the
green
space
that
gets
created
so
full
of
picnic
spots
full
of
kick
and
play
areas
that
incorporated
playgrounds
into
higher
spots.
So
this
wasn't
just
about
converting
a
concrete
drain
here.
This
was
about
opening
up
open,
Green
Space,
because
what
you
can't
see
on
the
edge
of
this
is
that
is
areas
where
unit
development
was
occurring.
F
F
I'm
Keen
to
see
what
opportunities
there
are
for
this
in
the
Gold
Coast.
It
doesn't
fit
everywhere.
So
after
visiting
handling
and
doing
the
reading
on
the
one
at
Ipswich
and
other
projects
like
this
around
the
country,
it
is
happening
in
other
places.
It
doesn't
work
everywhere.
There
are
a
lot
of
reasons
why
a
lot
of
places
get
ruled
out.
Pretty
quick,
so
I
don't
think
that
we're
going
to
see
a
mass
of
these
kind
of
projects,
but
where
they
could
work.
F
Not
only
do
they
deliver
fantastic
water
quality
improvements,
but
the
Green
Space
opportunities
it
opens
up
for
residents,
especially
in
parks
in
areas
where
we've
got
targeted
growth
areas
and
we
can't
go
buy
more
land
necessarily
to
provide
that
open.
Green
Space
for
amenity
I.
Think
it's
well
worth
looking
at
have
an
example
in
the
city.
F
G
Followed
by
Council
pedia
yeah
and
thank
you
chair
and
pretty
much
along
the
same
lines
as
councilor
Hamel
I've
been
fortunate
enough
to
have
one
of
my
closest
friends
lives
near
Hanlon
Park,
so
I
actually
went
for
the
consultation
when
they
all
went
saw
the
hundreds
of
community
members
come
in.
It
was
a
Barren
park
with
the
drain
going
straight
through
it
that
you
never
saw
activated
and
to
confirm
what
councilor
Hamill
was
saying.
G
I've
been
there
on
days
where
there's
hundreds
of
people
in
that
Park
and
the
kids
are
doing
the
water
play
the
activations
of
the
playgrounds
around
it
when
there
is
a
a
flood
event,
but
I
have
seen
it
where
you
cannot
see
any
of
the
vegetation
in
that
park
at
all
and
within
24
to
48
hours.
We
are
back
to
that
and
people
are
back
in
the
park.
G
So
it
is
wonderful
to
see
that
all
the
planting
that
they've
put
in
there
is
able
to
withstand
those
sorts
of
events
and
people
are
to
use
the
park
and
again
for
councilor,
bald
and
lumson.
He
has
brought
forward
the
lack
of
green
space
or
the
usable
Green
Space
within
his
Division
and
to
have
a
park
like
this.
G
That
has
just
drain
at
the
moment,
if
your
weekend
activate
that
Park
and
again
in
support
of
I
spoke
to
the
officers
quite
extensively
about
it
and
the
maintenance
costs
are
significantly
reduced
and
also
that
the
residents
within
the
area
are
taking
a
lot
more
Pride
within
that
Park.
So
they
are
noticing
that
residents
are
coming
on
board
and
they're
doing
even
their
own
cleanup
groups
and
things
like
that.
G
So
it's
so
the
bike
paths
and
the
water
play
and
the
the
whole
activation,
and
it
is
a
huge
length
between
and
it
has
a
park
run
that
goes
through
it
and
that
so
no
it
doesn't
suit
everywhere.
I
can't
think
of
anywhere
in
my
area.
That
I
would
do
it
like
I
would
nominate,
but
currently,
but
with
that
type
of
park
there,
like
I've,
watched
that
over
the
last
five
years,
and
they
did
quite
a
bit
of
consultation
on
it.
They
talked
about
the
costs
and
that.
G
H
Thanks
chair,
yes,
it's
a
great
outcome,
that's
being
sought
here,
but
I,
just
wonder
about
the
selection
of
the
site.
H
If
we've
got
some
kind
of
Matrix
whereby
we
can
evaluate
sites
for
entertaining,
if
they're
able
to
be
considered
for
future
treatment,
because
I
can
think
of
lots
of
places
where
we've
sought
to
do
this
in
the
past
and
it's
a
wreck
or
we
haven't
sought
to
do
this
and
it
needs
it
as
well
as
as
the
case
in
Parkwood
I,
don't
deny
that
that
would
be
a
much
better
outcome
than
it
is
now.
H
H
You
know-
and
it's
just
crazy
and
the
cost
of
those
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars,
which
is
the
same
as
this
I
note.
So
I'm
a
bit
worried
about
how
we've
chosen
this
site
and
if
we've
got
a
a
process
that
we
can
deliver.
Yes,.
C
Is
okay?
Yes,
counselor
young?
We
did
have
a
process
and
a
matrix
for
assessment,
and
if
you
have
seen
the
documentary
that
was
showcased
on
Hannan
Park
on
ABC,
no,
the
person
who
actually
talks
about
this
project.
We
trust
him
he's
the
CEO
of
stormwater
Australia
and
one
of
the
most
experienced
people
in
this
space,
and
we
asked
him
to
actually
review
our
assessment
and
our
business
case
and
he
did
review
and
supported
the
site
selection
and
how
we
came
up
with
this
one
happy
to
share
that
business
case.
If
required.
What.
C
Absolutely
we
looked
at
hundreds
of
them
and
the
short
list
was
10..
One
of
the
main
reasons
that
this
park
was
selected
is
number
one
for
these
projects
to
be
successful.
Like
Canon
park.
It
requires
Community
Access.
It
requires
visibility
if
it
is
somewhere
that
people
are
not
going
to
use
set
it
off
or
there
is
not
enough
population
around
it,
then
it
won't
be
fit
for
purpose,
but
the
second
one
was
the
space.
C
There
were
many
drains
that
required
more
maintenance
and
could
have
been
perfect
rather
than
going
and
investing
in
concrete
to
do
it
there,
but
they
didn't
have
that
minimum
of
three
meter
space
on
each
side
to
be
able
to
do
this,
and
my
understanding
is
that
Abbott
Park
is
very
popular
among
the
community.
Okay.
H
F
It's
one
part
I
spoke
about
forward.
I
forgot
to
add
in,
and
that
is
one
of
the
other
key
drivers
for
Hanlon
Park
was-
is
that
it
forms
part
of
one
of
the
main
cycle
routes
through
Brisbane,
and
there
was
a
series
of
dangerous
pinch
points.
I
can't
think
what
road
it
is
that
runs
near
this,
but
where
there
was
no
ability
in
the
road
Reserve
to
get
a
dedicated
cycleway.
F
So
part
of
this
project
delivered
that
cycleway
option
off
the
road
to
improve
the
active
travel
links
as
well,
which
I
know
has
been
something
that
has
been
raised
with
me
by
the
planning
team,
the
traffic
area
about
some
of
the
older
subdivisions
in
the
city,
where
footpath
connections
and
Bikeway
connections
weren't
necessarily
the
high
up
the
list.
But
there
are
reserves
running
through
that.
We
don't
have
to
necessarily
put
footpaths
and
bikeways
out
on
roads
that
we
could
do
links
through
areas
like
this
to
get
active
travel
outcomes
as
well
I.
F
Just
it's
a
much
bigger
concept
and
I
think
a
role
appreciating
and
would
encourage
your
counselors
to
look
at
that.
Abc
documentary-
and
there
is
a
heap
of
other
reports-
have
been
done
on
handland
park
now,
if
you
Google
it
there's
a
hundred
of
them,
but
you
couldn't
beat
going
revisit
to
this
to
actually
understand
the
concept
very
worthwhile
Council.
A
D
Thank
you
chair
just
through
you,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
doesn't
this
require
the
three
meters
either
side
for
vegetation
which
takes
up
Parkland
rather
than
provide
more
I,
mean
we've
heard
a
lot
about
the
Improvement
to
Hammond,
Park
and
I.
Don't
think
we're
comparing
apples
with
apples
here,
I
think
we're
comparing
apples
with
oranges,
because
it's
certainly
not
a
bike
route
either
I
mean
I.
Doesn't
it
take
more
space
more
Parkland
to
provide
that
outcome
than
currently
exists?.
C
True
bottom
chair,
you're
right
we're
going
to
take
up
the
three
meters,
but
the
three
meters
will
be
interactive,
so
actually
public
can,
through
those
three
beaders
interact
truly
with
the
environment.
If
you
see
a
lot
of
the
parks
we
have
in
the
city
are
just
grass
there's
no
shade,
there's
nothing
to
interact.
That
is
nothing
for
people
to
do
with
it.
C
This
actually
provides
the
kids
an
opportunity
to
go
and
play
with
water
play
with
the
mud
play
with
the
soil,
and
there
will
be
multiple
points
and,
as
councilor
hannel
said,
this
photo
doesn't
actually
do
justice.
I
wish
we
could
play
the
video
here.
There
are
multiple
points,
even
with
wheelchair,
that
people
can
actually
go
and
interact
with
the
Waterway
and
enjoy
that
cooling
effect.
D
B
B
I
Yeah
Sarah
kiss
me
as
a
dad
who
plays
near
the
local
soccer
field,
has
a
concrete
drain
to
it.
Parents
don't
play
next
to
the
drain
generally
like
they
give
themselves
three
or
four
meters
from
the
drain.
Anyway,
if
there
is
green,
open
space,
so
it's
kind
of
Dead
Space
anyway,
just
looks
grassed
instead
of
quite
beautiful.
My
question
is
actually
there's.
You
said
there
was
a
hundred
listed
locations
potentially.
I
K
E
K
So
to
me,
it's
if
it's
going
to
be
explored
I'm,
actually
also
interested
in
all
of
the
unintended
consequences
and
I
have
an
area
not
dissimilar
to
this
in
rugby
park
at
helensvale
wraps
around
down
to
the
camera
Wetlands.
So
we
get
complaints
about
mosquito
breeding
Etc
and
we
also
infrequently
get
complaints
about
what
council's
going
to
do
about
the
snake
population
being
immediately
adjacent
to
come
by
Wetlands,
to
which
we
explain
that
we
don't
train
the
snakes,
but
I'll.
K
Look
at
that
and
think
I'd
be
really
interested
in
knowing
you
know
whether
or
not
we've
thought,
through
from
a
whole
city
perspective
as
to
what
the
unintended
consequences
of
it
might
be
and
in
particular
around
things
like
mosquitoes
and
the
movement
of
animals.
The
residents
are
then
going
to
complain.
Oh
look
at
it
and
and
to
me,
within
two
weeks
of
it,
I
being
two
months
of
it
being
completed,
somebody
would
be
complaining
about
the
wrong
type
of
things
going
into
the
park.
I.
E
Think
the
and
your
positive
part
is
so
that
area
is
the
area
that
gets
fogged
quite
regularly
so
because
it
is
so
close
to
the
under
Wetlands.
It
doesn't
get
the
aerial
treatment,
but
we
often
have
the
Utes
drive
through
actually
all
the
perimeter
streets
of
this
park
and
gets
fogged.
E
So
this
treatment's
in
place
and
I
think
the
lack
of
complaints
is
probably
actually
mostly
due
to
how
proactive
our
vector
and
biosecurity
guys
are
in
that
space,
because
this
area
is
surrounded
by
a
lot
of
acreage
properties
as
well
that
have
lots
of
water
flow
through
ponds.
Lakes
lagoons,
all
those
kind
of
bits
and
pieces
and
again
haven't
had
the
complaints
and
I
think
that
is
because
of
how
effective
our
vector
and
biosecurity
team
is
in
that
mosquito
space.
A
A
Councilors,
we
do
have
another
art,
we
have
another
item
on
the
agenda,
that's
enclosed,
but
we
also
have
two
presentation
ones
in
open
and
one's
in
close,
so
we
might
do
the
presentation
the
in
open
now
and
then
we
can
go
to
closed
and
deal
with
the
item
and
the
presentation
and
the
GB
item.
Yes
in
open
yeah.
K
J
K
A
Presentation
is
just
a
update
on
our
green
Organics
project
and
welcome.
L
Thank
you
yes,
through
the
chair,
we're
very
close
to
roll
out
of
the
green
organic
service,
so
we
just
wanted
to
provide
you
all
with
just
an
update
of
where
we're
at
and
and
what's
coming
in
the
next
few
months.
L
So
we've
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
over
the
past
few
months,
doing
a
lot
of
data
analysis
trying
to
make
sure
we're
making
sure
that
we've
we're
delivering
bins
to
the
right
properties
in
the
right
places.
L
This
is
the
the
grain
waste
expansion,
so
we've
broken
it
down
by
division
for
you,
so
you
can
see
what's
coming
division,
one
we'll
have
the
division,
one
get
surprised
so
yeah.
It
has
been
a
significant
process
going
through
we've
pulled
out
all
the
the
properties
between
250
and
5000
square
meters
properties
within
a
CTS
web
individually,
analyzed
each
of
those
properties
to
make
sure
that
they
have
more
than
25
Square
manners
of
growing
suppose
so
that
we're
not
delivering
bins
to
properties
that
just
have
a
concrete
backyard.
L
K
Yes,
so
that's
the
number
that's
left
over
after
you've
done
those
filters.
Yes
up
there,
I
I
to
me
it
would
be
helpful
if
we
could
see
and
I
don't
know
whether
it's
coming
but
a
the
number
of
properties
in
the
division.
The
number
that
currently
have
green
bins
because
they've
opted
in
and
then
this
number
yep
does
that
make
sense.
K
I
L
So
this
may
not
be
easily
viewable
for
you,
but
yes,
we're
broken
it
down
by
suburb
there.
So
currently,
with
we've,
had
very
few
requests
for
exemptions
37
to
date
for
those
were
approved.
A
lot
of
the
exemptions
are
people
who
weren't
included
within
the
expansion
anyway,
so
people
whose
properties
were
too
big
or
too
small
to
start
with,
with.
K
I
think
that
division
two
probably
has
the
largest
number
of
Residential
Properties,
that
aren't
in
the
waste
collection
area
because
of
Hope
Island
and
Sanctuary
Cove.
Yes,
it'd
actually
be
helpful.
If
I
could
I
know
that
they're,
not
our
clients
as
such,
but
it'd
be
helpful
if
I
could
get
an
idea
of
how
many
have
been
excluded
because
they're
not
in
the
waste
collection
area,
so.
L
Okay,
I'll
just
give
you
a
brief
overview,
so
bin
deliveries
we're
having
to
deliver
the
bins
on
a
customer's
collection
day,
just
to
give
them
the
the
best
experience
they
don't
just
have
a
random
bin
turn
up
on
there
on
their
curbside.
So
what
we're
intending
to
happen?
Is
the
customer
go
out
to
collect
their
waste
bin
and
bring
it
in
and
we'll
have
the
greenway
spin
sitting
there
beside
it?
L
So
that's
the
intention
for
the
rollout
going
forward,
so
it
could
take
a
number
of
weeks
for
us
to
get
through
a
suburb.
D
D
It
actually
doesn't
have
that
opportunity,
because
there
are
different
levels
and
steps
going
in
and
the
only
place
to
store
the
bins
is
in
the
garage
area
and
there's
already
two
there.
So
what
do
we
and
I
don't
think
that
I'm
going
to
be
the
only
person
who
has
that
situation?
So
how
are
we
going
to
manage
all
of
the
people
that
are
going
to
come
forward
and
say
we
just
don't
have
the
capacity
to
store
that
bin
I'm.
Sorry.
M
M
Yeah
our
expectation
and
as
Josh
would
talk
about,
the
rollout
is,
is
going
to
occur
over
a
you
know,
a
extended
period.
We
absolutely
expect
as
we
roll
it
out,
and
you
know,
despite
the
the
awareness
and
messages
and
everything
else,
there
will
be
some
people
who
say.
What's
this,
you
know
what
do
I
do
with
it,
where
am
I
going
to
put
it,
etc,
etc.
So
we'd
actually
absolutely
expect
those
calls
to
come
in,
as,
as
with
you
know,
the
the
current
criteria
of
exemptions.
M
D
So
I'm
getting
from
that
that
we're
a
little
more
flexible
than
had
initially
been
proposed.
So
if
someone
were
able
to
come
forward
and
say
my
property
doesn't
physically
have
the
capability
of
an
additional
bin
and,
for
example,
I
pay
a
gardener
to
take
away
all
of
my
green
waste,
because
I
don't
have
the
capacity
for
a
green
bin
that
might
receive
favorable
consideration.
Well,.
M
K
It
was
just
a
question
about
the
collateral
that
arrives
with
the
new
bin.
What
do
we
tell
the
resident
as
the
bin
turns
up.
L
L
K
Was
in
no
I
was
in
particular
interested
in
and
not
similar
to
council
against,
not
having
room
that
suggestion
of
you
know.
You
cannot
down
a
size
in
the
in
the
general
y
spin,
for
example,
so
our
opportunity
to
provide
messaging
and
even
to
the
point
of
messaging
around
what
can
go
in
the
recycle
bin
is
all
to
me
is
all
part
of
that
that
opportunity.
K
L
Yeah
we've
we've
got
our
bin.
Green
bin
is
going
to
have
a
QR
code
on
the
on
the
lid
because
at
some
point
we
might
transition
to
a
photo
service.
So
we
don't
want
to
hold
ourselves
just
to
grain
Organics
we're
going
to
have
stickers
on
the
front
of
the
bin
and
on
the
lid
explaining
what
what
the
service
is.
They're
easily
removable
stickers,
they're,
not
not
the
type
that
are.
L
You
know,
gonna
flake
off
over
time,
we're
also
providing
residents
with
a
booklet
explaining
what
the
service
is
all
about
and
why
it's
important
for
environmental
reasons
for
preserving
landfill,
void,
space
and
a
number
of
other
reasons,
including
Levy.
So
we're
really
yeah.
We
did
our
customer
forums
and
yeah
we
we
did
find
out.
We
had
to
explain
more
to
the
customer
what
the
service
was
about,
and
we've
we've
gone
out
of
our
way
to
do
that.
F
Are
we
changing
bins
on
General
waste?
Are
we
changing
leads
on
General
waste,
bins
that
aren't
red
yet
at
the
same
time,.
L
Through
the
chair,
no
we're
not
live
at
this
stage.
We're
keeping
the
the
contractor
just
focused
on
delivery
of
the
green
Organics
at
this
stage,
and
also
the
state
or
the
Council
of
Mayors
is
also
looking
at
a
program
for
Mass
changeover
of
Lids
in
southeast
Queensland.
That
will
look
to
engage
in
in
the
future,
but
Paul
I
don't
know.
M
So
you
know
the
combination
of
all
these
factors.
We
said
it's,
it's
not
worthwhile
at
this
point
to
do
the
changeover,
but
to
let
that
settle
in
and
then
see
how
these
other
initiatives
progress.
Now,
at
some
point
you
know
we
may
make
the
decision
down
the
track.
If
we
don't
get-
or
you
know
in
the
scheme
to
change
over.
If
that's
going
to
be
five
years
from
now
or
something
and
we
don't
get
a
lot
to
take
up
of
people
saying
yes,
I
want
to
downsize
my
bin.
M
We,
we
may
follow
up
with
an
initiative
at
that
point
in
time,
but,
as
just
said
just
in
terms
of
keeping
you
know,
the
team
whenever
I'm
focused
on
on
you
know
succeeding
with
the
green
bin,
but
that's
the
call
we
made
yeah
so.
F
I
think
that's
a
mistake
and
talking
to
someone
who
has
been
part
of
this
for
several
more
local
government
areas,
and
probably
some
of
your
officers
have
that
it
works
better
when
you
change
the
Reddit
at
the
same
time,
because
the
new
red
lid,
because
there's
a
lot
of
them,
there's
a
lot
of
General
waste
bins
in
the
city.
Don't
have
the
red
lid
on
it.
F
So
the
new
red
lid
that
goes
on
also
has
a
chance
to
have
the
new
sticker
or
a
sticker
on
it,
explaining
what
should
be
going
in
general
waste
bins
at
the
same
time
and
from
a
cost
point
of
view,
I
can
guess
what
it's
going
to
cost
per
household
for
a
contractor.
The
delivery
bin
and
the
efficiency
of
having
them
change
the
lid
while
they
were
there
versus
doing
anything
in
the
future,
would
have
been
much
more
cost
effective,
so
I'm
guessing.
F
L
So
this
this
is
just
a
overview
of
the
activities
that
are
planned
over
the
next
few
months,
so
in
June
or
12th
of
June
bins,
start
arriving
at
Sun
town,
so
they'll
come
in
and
be
doubles.
L
We'll
have
a
career
on
site,
putting
the
bins
together
ready
for
delivery
in
July,
the
JoJo
Richards
trucks
are
ready,
currently
being
wrapped
in
the
in
the
design
that
that
the
communications
team
has
put
together
so
in
June
we're
going
to
be
commencing
engagement
with
residents,
so
that'll
be
radio
bus,
specs,
Billboards
and
the
delivery
of
that
book.
What
I
talked
about
earlier
to
to
the
customers?
Getting
the
green
Organics
bin.
K
L
Through
the
chair,
I,
don't
think
we
will
be
I.
Think.
K
We're
going
to
need
to
give
consideration
to
that,
because
so
we
all
represent
areas,
for
example,
where
there
may
be
particular
body,
corporates
or
whatever
that
are
excluded,
for
whatever
reason.
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
really
clear
to
the
people
that
aren't
getting
it.
Why
they're
not
getting
it?
You
know,
and
there
might
be
different
reasons,
but
on
one
hand,
if
we're
going
out
and
doing
the
right
thing
and
explaining
to
the
majority
of
the
suburb,
why
we're
changing
and
how
it's
changing
and
what
does
it
mean
for
them?
K
I
think
we
also
need
to
give
some
consideration
to
the
residents
that
aren't
part
of
that
change
over
and
the
reason
and
the
rationale
behind
it,
because
otherwise,
there's
going
to
be
the
potential
for
some
confusion
and
I
think
that
it
would
help
if,
if
we
headed
some
of
that
off
at
the
past,.
M
L
The
residents
that
do
fit
the
Criterium
we've
gone
and
looked
at
at
their
property
and
found
that
they
don't
actually
have
that
much
Green
Space.
We
are
writing
to
them
individually,
so
there
is
500
of
those
but
properties
outside
the
criteria.
We
are
communicating
with
and.
K
I
I'm,
going
to
speak
from
my
Division
I
think
that
it
would
be
really
helpful
if
our
office
staff
were
at
least
have
the
ability
to
quickly
determine
you
know
who
is
is
or
isn't
so,
whether
or
not
that
could
be
by
way
of
system-wide
some
type
of
recognition
that
the
the
staff
members
could
easily
identify
a
property
that
isn't
going
to
be
getting
a
green
bin
or
if
it's
an
old-fashioned.
You
know
some
type
of
spreadsheet
or
whatever
yeah
I.
K
H
Thanks
my
question
pertains
to
the
previous
slide.
If
you
don't
mind
chairman
in
this
case,
there's
nine
properties
identified
for
clagrava,
which
is
a
very
vast
dominantly
rural
suburb,
and
to
me
that
just
makes
no
sense
at
all,
sending
a
truck
out
to
get
waste
from
nine
properties
and
I.
Wonder
if
I
might
have
a
look
at
the
list
and
work
with
you,
your
folks
about
that,
just
in
terms
of
efficiencies
and.
K
A
A
Just
before
we
go
on
Josh
councils,
have
any
of
you
been
contacted
by
any
residents
who
don't
want
the
bins,
but
they
are
eligible,
they
will
get
them,
but
they
don't
want
them,
because
I've
had
two
no
and
that
came
out
that-
and
that
was
after
the
initial
rollout
through
here,
the
you
know
after
we
approved
it,
it.
I
M
True
Madam
chair,
you
know
again
I
think
when,
and
it
was
a
long
time
ago
now,
when
we
rolled
out
the
yellow,
bins,
I
think
there
was
a
lot
of
people
who
said
no
I'm,
quite
happy
just
throwing
everything
into
one
bin.
So
it's
it's
part
of
a
community
transition
and
again,
as
Josh
said
before-
and
you
know,
while
we
haven't
got
our
signed
off
plan
or
or
whatever,
this
is
a
step
towards
a
food
Organics
and
green
Organics,
so
yeah.
M
Well,
we've
just
got
to
be
careful
that
that
the
city
is
trying
to
achieve
good
waste
outcomes,
reduced
waste
Levy
for
for
the
city
and
and
better
environmental
outcomes.
That.
I
When
you
start
talking
about
the
state
waste
Levy
and
how
the
tonnage
changes
and
how
the
mismanagement
of
waste
disposal
at
the
local
transfer
stations
is
increasing,
our
state
waste
Levy
obligations,
people
start
understanding
because,
generally
the
people
who
are
objecting
are
relatively
responsible
with
their
waste
disposal
activity
and
when
they
realize
that
it's
not
that
the
thing's
been
implemented
not
because
of
their
activity,
but
because
of
irresponsible
people
using
transfer
stations
and
lifting
our
state
waste
Levy
obligations,
they
get
it
and
they're
like
okay.
I
can
understand
why
that's
happening.
I
So
that's
right,
yes,
but
but
I
think
people
failed
to
comprehend
that
in
the
first
instance
in
some
of
the
members
of
my
community
who
were
pretty
frustrated
about
getting
bins
once
you
start
having
that
conversation
with
them
saying
well,
actually
this
is
not
something
we're
trying
to
impose
upon
you
we're
actually
just
trying
to
lower
our
broader
Levy
obligations,
and
that
starts.
The
majority
of
people
have
responded
relatively
positively
to
that
line
of
conversation.
Okay,.
L
So
yeah
July
August
been
delivery
to
expansion,
customers
and
will
commence
collections,
the
Fortnight
after
so
we'll
get
JJ
Richards.
That
said,
they
can
they're
already
in
a
lot
of
the
streets
already
delivering
the
service.
So
whatever
bins
are
out
they'll
collect
by
end
of
September,
we
hope
we
will
have
all
bin
deliveries
completed
and
October
onwards
will
be
focused
on
ongoing
customer
engagement
and
focusing
on
contamination
and.
L
Yes,
so
the
feedback
from
solo,
the
contractor
who's
going
to
be
managing
the
rollout
for
us
is
that
delivering
the
bins
on
a
collection
run
is
the
best
way
to
do
it,
so
that
people,
you
know
they
get
their
their
waste
bins
already
out
they
get
their
green
bin
delivered.
There's
is.
K
L
Think
the
oh
sorry
I
think
yeah
it's
the
key
messages
that
will
happen
over
the
the
coming
month.
So
yeah.
It
may
take
two
or
three
weeks
to
get
to
each
household,
but
it
will
happen
so
yeah
patience
and
but
we
we
do
get.
We
will
get
daily
and
weekly
reporting
from
the
contractor,
but
I'll
find
out
if
we
can
get
a
view
as
to
what
the
weekly
schedule
and.
K
Will
that
be
a
report
at
a
street
level
by
the
number
right
by
the
house
number
where
a
green
bins
being
delivered
yeah
there.
L
Will
be
that
detail
there,
where
we
were
planning
on
providing
a
summary
report
as
appropriate
just
on
percentage
of
age
suburb
which
have
been
provided
the
bins
yeah,
we
can
I.
K
H
K
Me
it's
about
facilitating
you
guys
with
the
delivery,
but
also
helping
our
staff
with
that
and
those
answers
and,
like
I
mean
even
if
the
delivery
is
happening
in
July,
it's
gonna
only
happen
on
two
fortnights
in
July
yeah
yeah.
So
what
does
that
look
like,
okay
and
and
then,
if
they
haven't
their
neighbor,
could
have
been
I
didn't
get
to
be
in
all
that
type
of
stuff?
You
know
understood.
L
So
these
this
is
just
a
and
our
view
of
some
of
the
creatives
that
will
be
coming
out
in
the
coming
weeks.
So
bus
backs
been
bus,
shelters
and
billboards.
L
So
things
won't
go
100
to
plan.
There
will
be
you
know,
some
customers
that
are
missed
or
been
will
be
delivered
to
a
customer
that
shouldn't
get
a
bin.
We've
done
our
very
best
to
get
on
top
of
it,
but
there
will
be
issues
that
do
occur
with
74
000
bins
being
rolled
out,
we've
funded
through
the
project,
putting
on
four
additional
staff
in
customer
contact
for
a
period
of
three
months
to
handle
the
additional
volume
of
calls.
So
our
suggestion
is
to
direct
the
customer
there.
L
K
Josh
will
the
counselors
have?
Will
the
counselors
have
consistent
collateral
yo
for
social
media
and
the
like
that
we
can?
We
can
share
yes,
yeah.
K
So
yeah
so
so
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if,
if
we
were
able
to
assist
you
you
and
and
then
that's
to
me
that
What's
the
timing
of
the
rollout
in
our
particular
suburbs,
because
that
might
help
us
with
you-
know
our
own
messaging.
You
know
and
and
some
of
that
missing
data
about
you
know
there
are
nine
thousand
services
in
helensvale
at
the
moment.
There's
another
3
000
coming
you
know
it's
not
every
house
will
get
a
new
bin,
but
this
is
the
reason
why
we're
doing
it.
You.
F
You're
very
correct,
there's
going
to
be
issues.
Do
we
have
a
kpi
in
the
contract
with
sulo
for
how
quickly
they
have
to
return
back
to
a
property
to
fix
something?
So
if
we
deliver
two
bins,
which
happens
way
too
often,
or
we
don't
put
one
there
or
what
all
after
review
ones
be
removed,
do
we
have
a
kpi
of
we'll
be
back
there
within
two
days
to
remove
that
bin
or
preferably
a
day?
Even
yes,.
L
L
F
Cool
that
that's
good,
because
yeah
there
will
be
problems,
but
it's
also
a
chance
for
us
to
show
a
quick
response
and
actions
stuff
and
entering
that
from
a
negative
experience
to
a
positive
experience
for
our
residents.
Yes,
and
just
secondly,
on
the
back
of
what
council
Owen
Jones
said,
it
should
be
easy
to
provide
us
with
an
idea
of
a
plan
that
sulo
I'm,
assuming
have
got.
Jj's
collection
runs
data,
which
is
an
overlay
of
our
cadastrial
mapping.
F
So
if
a
typical
waste
truck
picks
up
1800
bins
in
a
day,
they
won't
get
to
that
whole
1800
properties,
because
they
they
weren't
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
there
as
quick
as
the
truck
can,
but
they
should
be
able
to
break
it
down
and
say
in
this
suburb
on
this
run.
So
if
you
live
in
pimpama
and
you
get
serviced
on
a
Monday-
and
this
is
this
route
over
the
next
four
weeks-
we're
breaking
this
up
into
these
four
segments
like
we
should
have
a
fairly
good
idea.
F
L
L
So
yeah
we've
we've
moved
on
from
promotion
of
the
grain
Organics
opt-in
service
last
year,
obviously
going
to
Citywide
for
a
certain
range
of
properties.
L
L
It's
a
high-rise
trial-
oh
okay,
will
be
yes,
yeah
we're
we're
putting
in
for
a
number
of
Grants
at
the
moment,
hopefully
we'll
find
out
soon.
So
since.
L
Soon,
after
that,
so
that's
just
a
bit
bit
of
further
information
on
the
projects
I'd
just
described,
but
that's
that's
just
a
brief
overview.
That's
really
good
feedback
helpful
for
us
to
take
on
board.
Is
there
any
further
questions.
M
G
G
Are
we
in
a
position
to
be
able
to
do
that
at
the
time
like
a
lot
of
people
have
probably
got
you
know
a
a
big-ish
yellow
bin
and
then
they've
got
either
a
red
top
then
or
still
got
that,
but
then
they'll
that
Organics
will
come
out
whether
they'll
want
to
actually
go
to
the
bin
set,
as
showed
on
the
first
part
of
that
slide,
so
potentially,
if
they
make,
that
request.
Is
that
something
that's
going
to
be
able
to
be
serviced?
At
the
same
time,.
L
Sorry,
the
chair:
yes,
we
will
be
able
to
do
it.
It's
time.
Frames
may
not
be
as
responsive
as
we
normally
are
for
some
of
those
changeovers.
We
will
we've
got
a
separate
crew
coming
in
to
do
the
green,
Organics
rollout.
So
we'll
still
have
the
solo
team
delivering
new
services
and
doing
their
existing
workloads
so
we'll
be
able
to
do
it.
It's
just
fitting
it
into
the
existing
rollout.
We
just
want
to
keep
that
on
track
and
keep
it
going
on
time.
G
And
a
bonus,
the
other
thing
is
and
and
I
know,
with
some
of
my
residents
is
that
they
get
a
nice
shiny,
new
growing
bin.
They
might
start
making
applications
for
the
other
bins,
so
they
all
look
the
same
like
new.
Looking,
obviously
we'd,
look
at
you
know
whether
the
bins
are
damaged
or
whatever
going
forward,
but
has
been.
The
question
that
I've
had
is
that
if
these
green
bins
come,
can
we
get
new
the
other
two
bins
being
used?
H
M
A
Well,
extra
information
that
we
ask
for
directive
that
can
go
to
everybody
as
well:
yeah,
great
okay,
thanks
Josh
thank.
L
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A
Yeah,
that's
fine,
I
think
that
it
will
be
included
in
the
minutes
when
it
director
did.
A
Yes
and
seconded
by
cancer
of
biolumrant
by
Adam
Lumsden,
all
those
in
favor-
that's
carried,
yes
received
the
presentation
we're
still
in
open
before
we
go
to
closed
I
know,
there's
a
general
business
item
that
councilor
Gates
I
think
might
put
forward.
D
D
Okay,
I'll
well,
while
looking
for
it
I'll
read
it
to
the
committee,
and
it
is
that
the
director
Gold
Coast
water,
liaises
with
the
appropriate
branches
of
council
to
achieve
a
temporary
storage
use
of
a
portion
of
the
land
at
the
helensvale
community,
waste
and
recycling
center
lot,
998
on
rp162673
and
two
that
it
is
anticipated.
The
used
to
be
made
available
for
service
clubs,
including
including
rotary
and
Lions
Clubs,
together
with
other
community
groups
in
consultation
with
local
councilors
and
councilors
I'm.
D
Moving
this
General
business
item
today,
because
I
have
the
opportunity
to
do
so
because
today
I
can
be
considered
a
member
of
this
committee.
But
it's
actually
something
that
councilor
Owen
Jones
has
primarily
been
involved
with.
So
I
will
pass
over
to
councilor,
Owen
Jones,
to
say
a
few
words.
Okay.
K
So
I'm
sure,
like
other
counselors
from
time
to
time,
I
get
now
you
get
community
groups
interested
in
finding
storage
locations
for
various
things
around
the
city
and
I
know
that
the
city
has
assisted
some
of
those
at
the
old
Sundown
tip
up
in
the
up
the
area
near
the
community
center
at
the
helensvale
waste
recycle
center.
K
As
you
enter
on
the
right
hand,
side
there
used
to
be
a
two-story
house
which
was
demolished
and
there's
a
there's,
a
pad
a
concrete
and
some
well
a
bit
of
gravel
and
concrete
and
I
think
it's
probably
about
2
000
square
meters,
which
is
within
the
fenced
off
area.
So
I've
had
an
approaches
from
both
the
Rotary
Club
of
Hope
Island,
and
also
the
Rotary
Club
of
kumara
Valley
looking
for
places
to
store,
in
particular
there
sausages
or
trailers
and
they're.
K
This
particular
area
is
adjacent
to
the
entry
to
the
to
the
waste
recycle
center,
but
it's
within
the
area
that
creates
a
natural
buffer
between
the
nearest
residents
and
the
actual
operation
of
the
waste
recycle
center.
So
I'm
interested
in
progressing
it
further
and
not
only
for
the
service
clubs,
but
also,
if
there's
any
other
ngos
or
not-for-profits
that
it
might
make
sense
to
so
not
to
not
for
them
to
actually
do
any
activity,
but
just
as
a
potential
location
for
storage.
J
M
Through
Madam,
chair
I'm,
familiar
with
the
the
area,
is
described
obviously
yeah
we'll
follow
up
with
Property
Services.
What
needs
to
be
in
place
and-
and
you
know
what
sort
of
security
and-
and
you
know,
liability
for
storage
materials
on
site.
But
you
know
that
can
all
be
investigated.
D
Thanks
chair
and
if
I
might
just
add,
the
Rotary
Club
of
kumara
Valley
has
a
part
of
division.
Three
and
so
I
have
been
liaising
with
them
as
well
and
I'm
aware
that
they
have
grant
funding
available
so
there
might.
It
might
be
a
possibility
that
there
is
an
interaction
with
that
group
regarding
the
security
measures
that
need
to
be
undertaken,
I
think
their
grant
funding
was
possibly
for
a
shed.
M
Three
Madam
Jay,
just
just
to
note
we
do.
We
do
have
regular
break-ins
at
our
wrcs.
Even
with
our
you
know,
security
at
those
sites
and
and
CCTV
camera.
So
it
it
is
a
real
issue,
but,
like
I
said
we
can,
we
can
certainly
investigate
it
and-
and
you
know,
have
the
right,
understandings
and
and
upgrade
if
we
need
to.
K
And
I
think
the
challenge
is
wherever
we
as
a
city
would
provide
a
storage
outcome,
be
it
in
a
park
or
a
in
a
waste
recycle
center
that
they're
going
to
have
to
take
that
risk
on
themselves.
What
I
liked
about
it
is
effectively
the
potential
to
use
a
bit
of
Remnant
land
that
the
city
controls,
but
but
it's
effectively
open
363
days
of
the
year
and
I,
don't
imagine
it's
about
nighttime
access
or
anything
like
that.
K
It's
just
7
30
to
quarter
to
five
or
whatever
the
the
time
frame
was
and
as
the
Director
will
appreciate.
It's
all
part
of
this
one
approach
to
serving
our
residents.
A
Okay,
any
other
speakers
for
her
again,
no
taking
that
all
those
in
favor
that's
carried.
Thank
you.
A
A
Okay,
so,
as
I
was
saying,
we've
got
a
one
other
item,
the
integrated
Recycling
and
energy
Precinct
item
and
also
a
presentation
on
the
strategy
renewal
of
the
in-networks
that
kimaba
STP.
So
it's
both
in
commercial
and
confidence.
So
if
someone
like
to
move
in
close
councilor
Hamel
secondary
councilor
McDonald,
all
those
in
favor
that's
carried
streaming
off.
Please.
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Council
Peter
Young
move
that
we
note
the
presentation,
I
thought
I
seconded
it
great
and
all
those
in
favor
thank.