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I,
like
a
snapshot,
feature,
does
does
doxel,
have
a
snapshot
feature.
D
It
has,
it
can
snapshot
databases,
but
it
doesn't
snapshot
anything
else.
So
things
like
if
you've
got
settings
for
any
other
services.
You
can't
snapshot
those
which
most
of
the
time
isn't
an
issue,
because
if
you've
done
customization,
it
will
usually
be
in
a
file,
but
occasionally
it
can
be
an
issue,
particularly
if
you've
got
redis.
A
E
B
E
Okay,
well,
we
should
be
okay,
then
good.
I've
just
got
a
slide
to
finish
off.
Do
you
mind
if
I
just
go
on
mute
for
a
little
couple
of
minutes
just
to
finish
off
and
then.
E
Yeah
absolutely
yeah.
Well,
I'm
literally
nearly
done
but
I'll
just
no
pressure,
in
fact
I'll
turn
the
volume
down,
because
I'm,
if
I'm
not
distracted
I'll,
do
it
quicker
so
radio
silence
bye
for
a
moment.
A
F
Yeah,
basically,
a
load
of
spa2
stuff,
so
the
secure
payments
authentication
stuff.
D
And
unfortunately,
the
documentation
we
have
for
the
payment
gateway
is
from
2012,
so
3d
secure
was
not
a
thing.
Then.
D
A
D
G
D
G
G
A
C
A
Yeah
I've
been
doing
upgrades
myself,
so
I'm
now
trying
to
break
bottom
lap
because
apparently
it
doesn't
work
very
well
with
u9.
A
B
A
A
D
I'll
stop
start
banging
out
a
blog
entry.
Every
time
we
do
one
they'll
see
10
or
11
in
a
few
weeks,
and
everyone
will
realize
it
isn't
actually
as
scary
as
they
thought
it
was
going
to
be.
A
A
Are
you
looking
forward
to
moving
on
to
greener
pastures,
david
and
phil?
I
should
get
so,
but
I
guess
you've
started.
Aren't
you
phil
yeah.
A
B
B
D
C
A
Yeah
there
are
a
bunch
of
europeans
out
there
who
most
of
the
manchester
ones
he
was
there,
and
this
is
germany.
I
think.
D
A
F
D
D
A
B
A
Yeah
and
then
when
they
said,
there's
no
updates.
I'm
like
I've
got
to
work
anyway.
Now
cuz.
I
didn't
work
earlier.
A
B
D
A
D
Yeah
yeah,
the
the
the
thing
with
my
main
one
is
it's
it's
complicated
and
it's
not
drupal
is
basically
being
used
as
a
glorified
front
end
it
could.
It
would
be
better
off
using
something
like
gatsby,
because
we're
we're
dealing
purely
with
an
api
we're
not
really
using
drupal.
D
So
you
know
sort
of
eight-ish
years
ago,
seven,
eight
years
ago,
gatsby
wasn't
a
thing.
Decoupled
wasn't
really
a
thing.
It
was.
G
Thank
you,
yeah,
I'm
in
palisade,
colorado
and
far
western
colorado.
G
Mountains
and
ski
it's
not
so
fantastic
right
now
we
have
fires
in
our
area
and
one
of
the
biggest
fires
in
colorado.
History
is
burning
about
20
miles
from
here,
and
it's
been
filling
the
air
with
smoke
and
ash
and
all
kinds
of
things
we're
having
all
our
plans.
Most
of
the
major
highways
are
closed,
at
least
the
ones
that
we
wanted
to
use.
I
was
supposed
to
be
leaving
on
vacation
today.
G
Normally,
it's
all
good.
This
is
the
background.
Here
is
the
cliffs
cliffs
right
I
could.
I
could
show
you
out
our
window
if
I
was
pointed
the
right
direction,
just
just
a
couple
of
miles
away
from
here.
E
It
sounds
great.
I've
always
wanted
to
go
to
colorado
anyway,
thanks
for
joining
us
this
evening
anyway,
you
you
felt,
I
don't
know
whether
you
know
but
because
you'll
deal
with
so
many
people,
but
over
the
months
you've
dug
me
out
of
over
the
years,
should
I
say,
you've
dug
me
out
of
many
homes,
start
starting
with
those
videos
that
you
made
for
commerce
guys
at
about
the
time
they
launched
their
comments.
G
C
E
So
do
we
have
many
more
arrivals,
I
think
we
were
signed
up
for
about
11
or
12
weren't.
We.
E
Well,
we
probably
should
make
a
start,
because
we've
got
quite
a
bit
to
go
through
tonight
anyway.
Our
guest
speaker
this
evening
is
oliver
davies
again
who's
going
to
be
doing
a
presentation
that
he's
done
a
few
different
meetups
and
conferences
about
tailwind
css.
You
might
recall
two
or
three
meetings
ago
I
asked
oliver
about
telling.
Did
you
give
us
a
little
bit
of
an
introduction
but
tonight's
his
his
full
presentation
on
that
which
certainly
I'll
be
very
interested
in?
Does
anybody
have
any
news
or
announcements
at
all.
E
Right,
okay!
Well,
just
briefly,
I
mean
not
necessarily
for
now,
but
maybe
after
the
presentations.
If
anybody's
hanging
around,
I
thought
it
was
probably
time
to
raise
the
subject
about
whether
or
how
people
felt
about
maybe
starting
up
some
meetups
in
person
again
sometime
soon,
life
does
seem
to
be
getting
back
to
normal
one
way.
Another.
I
think
the
zoom
things
worked
out
very,
very
well,
it's
it's
increased
participation
in
some
respects,
and
and
it's.
A
E
It's
good
for
accessibility
for
people
that
don't
want
to
meet
talk,
so
maybe
maybe
we
can
have
that
conversation
later
on.
I've
been
tinkering
with
windows,
subsystem
for
linux,.
E
But
but
anyway,
so
this
isn't.
E
Particularly
high
level
thing,
I've
only
dabbled
with
it
for
a
couple
of
different
reasons
which
I'll
explain
and
anyway
maybe
it's
just
something
a
little
bit
different
for
your
normal
sort
of
drupal,
meetup
type
thing
so
I'll
just
move
my
screens
over
there
and
down.
If,
if
you
can,
let
me
share
my
screen
and
confirm
that
we've
got
the
correct
monitor.
Are
you
seeing
a
slide
deck
here.
B
E
E
I'm
on
windows
tonight
for
some
reason
and
it's
running
very
slowly.
I
have
to
say
here
we
go
with
zoom
it's
running
slowly.
I
don't
know
whether
that's
just
sorry
with
google
docs
it's
running
slowly,.
E
I
think
so
I
think
so,
let's
hope
so
using
windows
subsystem
2
with
dev
on.
Obviously
a
windows
10
pc,
my
first
impressions,
I
haven't
done
a
massive
amount
with
it.
It
was
really
just
a
matter
of
testing.
I
haven't
actually
spent
time
building
any
full
sites
with
it
more
a
question.
You
know
our
curiosity
having
a
look
at
it
and
seeing
how
it
works
and
playing
around
with
it.
E
Why
bother?
Why
did
I
do
it?
Well,
I
normally
work
with
the
macbook
pro
and
sort
of
over
the
years.
I've
used
mam
pro
most
of
the
time,
which
has
always
worked
pretty
well
for
me,
but
I
also
use.
I
also
need
access
to
decent
graphics
and
photography
software.
I
do
a
bit
of
amateur
photography,
but
more
to
the
point,
I
do
it
for
work.
I
do.
E
I
do
website
photography
because
I'm
not
particularly
don't
regard
myself
as
a
great
designer
or
illustrator,
so
I
I
sell
websites
by
how
we
look
with
great
photographs
rather
than
how
they
look
at
how
they
look
with
the
expertise
of
the
graphic
designer
being
involved.
I
like
to
use
my
office
setup
at
home.
I
like
to
use
three
monitors.
E
I
find
that
works
well,
for
me
makes
me
very
productive
and
with
three
monitors
you
don't
really
get
neck
ache,
which
you
can
do
with.
You
know
more
monitors,
or
it's
better
than
having
two
monitors,
which
you,
you
feel
the
view
is
kind
of
split
down
the
middle
by
the
the
frame
of
each
monitor
side
by
side.
E
I
need
to
use
decent
software
for
the
graphics.
I
have
been
signed
up
for
adobe
creative
cloud
in
the
past,
but
you
know
being
self-employed,
independent
woman,
it's
quite
an
overhead
and
I
don't
need
access
to
it
every
month.
So
I
don't
subscribe
to
it
anymore.
C
E
I
don't
know
whether
you've
ever
tried
sticking
three
monitors
on
a
macbook
pro
you've
got
to
my
macbook.
Pro
is
a
little
bit
older.
It's
a
2
2013
model,
so
I've
got
two
thunderbolt
outputs
and
I've
got
a
hdmi
output
and
if
you
use
all
three
of
those,
you
can
plug
three
external
monitors
into
a
macbook
pro
and
there's
no
problem
with
the
graphics
quality.
Everything
looks
fine
and
most
of
the
time
it
kind
of
works
all
right.
F
E
As
you,
what
what
what
you
do
find
is
that
they
tend
to
run
hot
when
you're
doing
that,
and
actually
my
first
macbook
pro
the
graphics
card,
burned
out
completely
catastrophic
failure.
The
the
the
graphics
card
on
a
macbook
pro
is
soda
to
the
motherboard.
So
all
I
got
for
what
was
originally
I
I
bought
it
second
down,
but
it
was
originally
a
2
700,
pound
laptop.
E
So,
whilst
I
was
waiting
saving
up,
if
you
like
to
buy
a
new
macbook,
I
had
an
old
pc
here
in
the
office
which
I've
had
for
nearly
10
years.
I
thought
I
would
try
out
ubuntu
for
local
development.
I
see
a
lot
of
drupal
developers
using
it
and
so
installed.
Ubuntu
d
dev
was
just
appearing
on
the
scene
as
well,
so
I
put
that
on
ubuntu
I
liked
it
found
it
easy
to
use
it's
very
fast
and
I
had
no
problems
with
it.
I
liked
it.
E
It
was
a
good
way
of
working.
Very
efficient,
got
a
lot
done
very
productive
and
it
you
know
it
was
okay,
but
what
I
find
being
what
I
found
using
ubuntu
is
that
I
couldn't
use
my
sort
of
graphics
software
of
choice.
They
just
don't
work,
yeah
stories
that
maybe
you
can
put
wine
on
and
maybe
you
might
be
able
to
something
with
viral
emulator,
get
an
old
version
photoshop
going
or
something
like
that.
But
it's
not
an
easy
life
there.
My
opinion
of
the
sort
of
native
ubuntu
graphics
software
is
low.
E
I
I
don't
think
much
of
inkscape
or
dark
table
for
photography
is
very
slow
clunky.
So
I
decided
that
linux
probably
wasn't
right
for
me
all
things
considered
with
what
I
need
to
do,
work
wise.
E
So
after
saving
up
for
a
little
bit
went
back,
and
I
I
got
myself
another
second
macbook
pro
this
time,
actually
from
a
drupal
developer,
who
gets
to
change
his
hardware
every
couple
years
on
expenses
and
everything
was
working
out
well,
but
I
was
forever
having
config
issues
with
mamp
running
out
of
memory,
sort
of
big
installation.
E
Things
to
worry
about,
I
know
if
you
know
exactly
what
you're
doing
you
can
tweak
these
things,
you
can
you
can
get
it
working,
but
you
know
I
I
had
quite
a
bit
of
trouble
with
it
when
I
came
back
to
it,
so
I
got
back.
I
tried
d
dev
again
having
been
impressed
with
it,
on
linux,
put
down
the
macbook
and
and
actually
found
it
to
be
very,
very
slow
and
not
not
efficient.
E
Not
not
not
not
not
an
easy
thing
to
work
with
really-
and
this
was
is
because
it's
not
so
much
of
ddap,
particularly
because
of
how
docker
works
and
the
difficulty
that
docker
has
relating
with
the
the
mac
file
system
and
the
mounting
and
so
on.
The
file
access
speeds
are
very,
very
slow
or
they
were
back
then,
anyway,
things
have
changed.
E
After
that
I
tried
virtual
box
and
drupal
bm.
It
was
okay,
but
still
a
bit
slow
for
certain
things.
So
I
went
back
to
using
mamp
and
found
that
things
haven't
got
any
better.
If
not,
it
got
worse.
E
So
I
thought
I'll
take
another
look
at
d
dev
through
seeing
blog
posts
on
drupal
planet
and
so
on.
I'd
heard
that
maybe
randy
can
tell
us
more
about
this
later.
I
heard
that
it
was
now
compatible
with
nfs,
which
is
a
linux
based
sort
of
file
access
system.
It's
been
around
a
long
time
very
well
proven
I
thought
well
I'll
give
it
another
go,
and
I
found
that
there
was
an
absolutely
vast
improvement,
a
huge
improvement
and
actually
I'm
not
working
with
windows.
E
Currently
I'm
just
still
tuning
and
throwing
I'm
using
ma'am.
Sorry,
I'm
using
dev
on
the
mac
at
the
moment
with
nfs,
and
it's
it's
great,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
it
at
all.
It's
it's!
It's
a
perfectly
adequate
development
environment
to
work
with.
I
don't
have
a
band
up
today:
macbook
pro
mine's
there
all
right,
it's
an
i7!
So
it's
well
specced.
It's
got
16
mega
ram
and
an
ssd.
But
it's
you
know
it's
the
2013
model.
It's
it's!
E
It's
not
a
new
machine
by
any
means,
but
anyway,
dev
with
nfs
on
mac
is
certainly
a
huge
improvement
to
the
earliest
iterations
of
the
with
you
know.
Without
lfs,
briefly,
what's
in
the
face?
Well,
I
don't
know
much
about
it.
Maybe
randy
can
tell
him
more.
So
it's
a
linux
thing
which
speeds
everything
up.
E
It
makes
d
that
much
faster,
there's
some
benchmarks
here,
comparing
the
blue
being
regular
docker
the
speeds
that
you
might
get
out
of
particular
things
and
the
red
being
what
they
would
be
with
using
nfs
and
the
yellow
being
another
mounting
system
called
webcache.
Don't
know
much
about
that,
but
the
the
the
you
know
the
graph
of
our
charts
they're
quite
compelling
in
terms
of
the
improvements
that
happened
to
dev
over
the
months.
E
E
E
I
find
that
regularly
goes
from.
You
know
not
consuming
any
cpu
to
consuming
600
of
cpu.
The
the
fans
are
spinning
so
fast
it
sounds
like
the
blooming
thing
is
going
to
take
off
and
there's
a
put
down
there.
Your
performance
goes
down
the
toilet
and
you're
back
to
square
one
thinking
how
on
earth
do
I
make
my
life
faster,
external
monitors
that
doesn't
happen
when
you're
just
using
your
mac?
Normally
single
screen,
everything's
fine
there.
This
only
seems
to
happen
with
me,
at
least
anyway,
with
external
monitors.
I
understand
that
modern
maps.
E
They
don't
recommend
that
you
do
that,
but
actually
that
you
invest
in
an
external
graphics
card
and
plug
your
monitors
into
into
that
peripheral.
But
I
haven't
gone
down
that
route
and
that
sounds
like
another
500
pounds
to
spend
somewhere.
If
I
go
down
that
route,
so
this
is
one
of
the
problems
you
know
just
working.
The
way
that
I
like
to
work,
things
would
slow
down
and
performance
would
suffer
and
so
on.
So
I
thought.
Well,
you
know
what
else
is
there
out
there?
What
about
windows?
E
You
know
I've
been
in
the
pc
business
for
25
years
before
I
came
to
drupal
I've
always
used
windows.
It's
only
since
doing
drupal
really
that
I've
been
working
on
a
mac.
E
I
knew
a
little
bit
about
windows
subsystem
for
linux
and
I
knew
that
the
the
second
did
array
iteration
of
that
wso2
had
just
come
out
going
back
to
my
multiple
monitor
thing,
while
windows,
support
for
graphics
is
completely
superior
to
mac
or
linux,
ask
any
gamer
that
and
they'll
tell
you
that's
that's.
Why?
Well
one
of
the
reasons
at
least
why
pc
has
certainly
won
the
gaming
was,
and
what
does
wsl2
well.
It
allows
for
I've
got
this.
I'm
reading
this
I've
written
it
all
around.
E
It
allows
for
pc
developed
developers
to
run
linux,
a
linux
environment,
on
a
windows
machine
now
the
first
iteration
of
that
the
original
windows
subsystem
for
linux
was
first
introduced
in
2016,
but
it
was
it
wasn't
a
full
implementation.
I
don't
know
a
huge
amount
about
the
history,
but
they
had
to
start
somewhere
and
they
started
with
wso2
and
I
think
sorry,
w
yourself
one.
I
think
a
lot
of
this
came
from
the
who's.
The
new
chief,
technical
guy
well,
say:
microsoft,
said
you've
been
around
for
a
number
of
years.
E
Really,
I
think
he
he
embraced
the
whole
open
source
thing
and
continues
to
do
so,
and
you
know
they
saw
developers
or
or
a
large
group
of
developers
going
over
to
ubuntu
or
mac,
and
you
know
territory
which
I
think
you
know
in
terms
of
ferry's
heritage.
They
probably
thought
was
as
much
theirs
as
anybody's,
and
so
they
wanted
to
do
something
about
it.
Windows
subsystem,
2,
arrived
in
in
sort
of
developer,
preview
builds
back
in
2019,
but
hardly
anywhere.
E
Hardly
any
hardware
at
the
time
was
supported
and
that's
been
a
gradual
thing
over
the
time.
So
what's
the
difference
between
version
one
and
version
two,
frankly,
I
don't
know
what
all
of
these
things
mean,
if
I'm
being
totally
honest
with
you,
but
the
key
things
that
are
important
in
terms
of
getting
a
a
development
environment
up
and
running
for,
drupal
or
php
is
access
to
the
full
linux
kernel
and
the
managed
vm,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
full
system
compatibility
is
about.
E
But
anyway,
these
things
are
now
there
in
wsl
2,
which
you
know
key
building
blocks
for
making
this
an
attractive
development
platform.
If,
indeed,
as
time
plays
out,
it
does
actually
become
one.
E
So
what's
required?
Well,
you
need
a
pc
with
virtualization.
This
is
a
technology,
that's
on
the
motherboard,
it's
in
the
chips
on
the
motherboard,
most
new
pcs
of
the
last
few
years,
perhaps
x,
with
the
exception
of
you
know,
really,
budget
machines
will
have
hyper-v
on
the
motherboard.
Certainly
anything
that's
current
will
do.
E
Windows
subsystem
two
generally
available
for
the
version
2004,
which
a
bit
confusing
that's
not
a
year.
That's
just
a
version
number
and
that
was
released
quite
recently,
may
27th.
E
So
if
you
want
to
install
a
new
pc,
the
first
thing
to
do
is
to
go
into
control
panel
and
go
into
windows
update
and
that
will
indicate
if
an
update
is
available
and
whether
your
machine
is
going
to
be
compatible.
But
the
hardware
should,
I
say,
is
going
to
be
compatible
with
the
the
later
updates.
The
hardware
is
still
a
limiting
factor.
For
some
pcs,
it's
been
improved
all
the
time.
I
know
when
I
first
looked
at
this
back
in
may
last
year
I
had
a
couple
of
old
laptops.
E
I
thought
I'll
give
it
a
go
and
I
couldn't
install
it.
The
hardware
support
wasn't
there
at
the
time
and
that's
moved
on
quite
a
bit
so
with
this
desktop
pc
that
I've
got
in
the
office
here
in
this
tower,
I
reformatted
it
to
start
again.
I
wanted
it
to
be
dual
boot,
with
both
windows
and
ubuntu
for
occasional
use
and
also
in
case
I
burn
out
my
macbook
pro
again.
E
So
what
I
found
is
that
my
with
my
pc
has
rebuilt
with
the
current
version
of
windows.
It
was
compatible
and
suitable
for
windows
subsystem
for
linux.
If
you've
got
hardware
that
isn't
compatible
you,
you
can
register
as
a
windows
insider
you
go
to
inside
insider.windows.com,
it's
like
a
developer
channel.
If
you
register
that
allows
you
to
tweak
something
in
windows,
update
which
allows
you
to
download
preview
builds.
E
So
if
you're,
if
you're
in
that
insider
channel,
you
need
to
download
a
preview
build
that
with
a
build
number
higher
than
18917.
The
good
thing
is
with
windows:
it's
fairly
reliable
with
installations.
E
If
things
go,
you
know
face
up,
shall
we
say
windows
does
allow
you
to
roll
back
gracefully
about
to
do
that
number
of
times
over
the
years
it
always
seems
to
work,
so
not
the
end
of
the
world,
if
you,
if
your
trial
with
with
this,
doesn't
work
out
so
what's
involved
with
installing
wsl
on
windows.
E
E
So
what
do
you
need
to
do
with
your
pc
to
make
it
ready?
Well,
you've
got
to
go
into
windows,
features
and
enable
a
couple
of
things,
so
you
can
find
that
in
control
panel
or
you
can
just
press
the
start
button
and
just
type
in
windows,
features
and
windows
will
give
you
that
particular
dialogue
that
you
need
to
be
looking
for,
and
you
need
to
enable
windows
system
subsystem
for
linux.
This
is,
after
you've
done
your
windows
update
to
get
the
compatible
version.
E
Obviously
enable
subsystem-
and
you
also
need
to
enable
virtual
machine
platform-
you
can
do
that
through
the
ui
or
if
you
run
powershell
as
an
administrator,
there's
a
one
line
snippet
there,
which
will
enable
everything
that
you
need
and
then
importantly,
the
second
line
sets
the
default
version
to
windows
subsystem
for
linux
2,
as
opposed
to
the
earlier
iteration
one.
E
I'm
going
to
duplicate
a
slide
there,
because
I
missed
a
bit
once
you've
enabled
some
system.
What
you
then
need
to
do
is
visit
the
windows
store,
which
again
you
find
in
your
start
menu
and
there
you
can
then
download
through
the
microsoft
store
you
can
download
a
linux
distribution
and
last
have
a
look.
There
were
four
or
five
of
these
that
you
could
choose
from
ddev
recommend
downloading
ubuntu
20.04,
which
is
a
new
release,
which
is
also
the
bit
that
I
put
on
the
dual
boot
on
the
pc
as
well.
E
E
So
moving
on,
you
then
got
to
install
docker
and
d
dev.
I'm
not
going
to
dwell
on
this,
particularly
because
it's
all
documented
in
anybody-
that's
already
running
d-dev
or
running
lando
will
be
familiar
with
these
kinds
of
routines
for
installation,
but
firstly,
you've
got
to
install
docker
desktop
for
windows.
E
E
The
next
step
is
to
run,
make
sure
which
gives
you
ssl
for
your
dev
environment
that
useful
and
then
not
compulsory,
an
optional
step,
but
a
recommended
one
is
then
also
to
install
windows
terminal
from
the
microsoft
store.
This
is
an
open
source
alternative
to
powershell
or
commander,
and
it's
it's
evolving
all
the
time.
It's
already
pretty
good.
I've,
no
doubt
it'll
get
a
lot
better.
E
Think
of
it
as
like
an
item
alternative,
if
you're
a
mac
user
or
you
know
any
of
the
various
terminal
clients
that
you
get
in
a
linux
distribution
and
it's
it's,
it's
pretty
good.
Actually,
it's
not
bad!
So
where's,
my
stuff,
when
you
installed
everything
on
windows,
you've
installed
linux.
Where
is
it
all?
You
know
if
you
want
to
go,
find
a
file?
If
you
want
to
install
a
website
download
some
code?
Where
is
it?
Well?
It's
it's
buried.
E
I
understand
quite
deliberately
deep
down
in
in
windows
and,
frankly,
you're
not
really
meant
to
go
there.
You
just
leave
windows
to
to
do
its
work
here.
You
certainly
don't
go
and
visit
that
location
with
file
explorer
there
be
dragons
up.
E
Quite
simply,
if
you
do
you'll
be
interacting
with
the
files
there
based
on
windows
file
permissions,
as
opposed
to
based
on
linux,
file,
permissions
and
you'll
end
up
in
a
around
mess,
simply
so
the
proper
way
of
doing
that
is
to
access
the
linux
on
directory
via
this
shortcut,
backslash
backslash,
wsl
dollar.
Sign!
E
If
you
follow
with
that
path,
all
your
unixy
linuxc
permissions
are
preserved
and
work,
just
as
you
expect
to
find
them
on
a
mac
or
on
your
linux.
Distribution
of
choice
coming
up
in
a
windows
update,
which
is
already
I
think,
available
as
a
preview
release,
is
a
proper
shortcut
to
linux
from
the
file
explorer,
where
you
can
directly
get
into
browsing
your
home
directory
and
everything
you
might
have
in
there.
Currently,
what
I've
needed
to
do
at
least
anyways
use
that
shortcut
and
then
add
a
shortcut
to
the
shortcuts
under
quick
access.
E
So
I've
got
a
one
click
link
to
get
me
to
the
right
place
without
having
to
you
know,
browse
all
the
way
down
into
windows
and
risk
breaking
something
when
I
do
so.
E
So
what
about
windows
terminal
this
open
source
bit
of
software?
It's
a
multi-purpose
application,
it's
not
just
for
linux,
so
you
can
also
use
it
as
an
alternative
for
using
the
super
basic
terminal
command,
prompt
that
you've
got
in
windows
or
the
more
advanced,
but
still
fairly
rudimentary
power.
Shell.
You
can
also
use
it
for
as
your
cloud
as
well
as
also
for
your
linux
distribution
or
by
the
way
you
can
install.
E
You
know
if
you're
one
of
these
people
that
likes
to
dabble
with
linux
distributions,
you
can
install
more
than
one.
You
can
install
multiple
linux
distributions,
so
you
might
have
a
ubuntu,
20
and
18,
maybe
something
else
whatever
now
a
bit
of
a
banana
skin
warning
when
you
first
access
limits
via
terminal
you'll,
be
taken
down
through
the
windows
path.
E
So
what
you'll
find
is
that
life
is
slow
down
that
path.
You
know
if
you
want
to
run
ddem
or
whatever
you
can
do,
but
it's
coming
to
operate
going
via
the
white.
The
windows
file
system
and
just
everything
is
slow.
Just
it's
just
you
know
it's
that's
just
how
it
good
thing
is:
that's
not
how
you
meant
to
use
it
as
soon
as
you
get
into
windows.
E
Terminal
you
should
cd
into
home,
in
my
case,
username
paul,
and
that
will
drop
you
straight
into
the
linux
file
system
and
once
you're
there,
it's
just
like
being
on
terminal
on
a
mac.
It's
just
like
being
internal
in
ubuntu.
It's
pretty
much
exactly
the
same,
so
there
you
have
it.
You've
got
linux
on
windows
as
such,
and
you
straight
in
I'm
not
gonna.
Do
a
live
demo
or
anything
like
that.
A
couple
of
reasons
I
didn't
have
proper
time
to
prepare.
I
would
have
wanted
to
video
something
like
that.
E
In
any
case,
just
in
case
anything
went
wrong.
I
haven't
had
time
only
to
say
if
you've
used
ddev
if
you've
used
lando
if
you're
on
ubuntu
and
just
used
to
working
at
the
command
line,
everything
works
exactly
the
same
way
as
you
would
be
used
to
unfamiliar
with
there's
virtually
no
difference
at
all.
E
So
what
I
decided
to
do
you
know,
after
spinning
this
up
yourself,
I'm
looking
about
installing
a
couple
of
distributions
doing
you
know,
working
with
composer
downloading
a
few
things
just
seeing
how
it
all
sort
of
hung
together,
and
I
thought.
C
E
You
know
this
is
pretty
fast.
Actually,
this
is
not
bad
at
all.
I
thought,
and
I
thought
I'd
just
do
some.
I
started
just
by
timing,
a
couple
of
page
loads,
a
couple
of
variables,
a
couple
of
things
that
you
get
wide
variation
with,
depending
upon
what
operating
system
you're
using
or
what
speed
of
computer
using
things
like.
How
long
does
a
drupal
installation
take?
E
That's
a
measurable
thing
where
you
can
compare
environment
to
environment,
machine
to
machine
once
you've
got
drupal
set
up
and
working,
especially
if
it's
a
distribution
with
a
lot
of
modules.
Things
like
you,
know,
timing,
the
page
load,
speed
of
the
module
page
is
a
a
good
benchmark.
E
You
know
on
a
slow
machine
or
you
know,
in
an
early
version
of
when
I
was
using
windows
vm
and
it
would
take
sometimes
you
know
20
seconds,
for
the
module
to
page
to
load
up
with
a
you
know,
a
fully
loaded
distribution
which
you
know
lasted
short
for
that,
but
you've
got
these
things
that
you
can
measure.
So
I
thought
I'd
run
one
or
two
sort
of
benchmarks
really,
but
before
doing
so
important
to
define
the
hardware
you
know,
are
we
comparing
apples
with
apples?
In
other
words,
my
dual
view
beat
pc?
E
Is
it
comparable
performance
wise
with
my
macbook
pro
you
know,
and
if
it's
not,
what
are
the
differences?
So
if
we
just
look
at
the
spec,
the
pc
has
got
16
megabyte
ram.
It's
got
a
an
athlon
six
core
cpu,
that's
getting
on
a
bit
now.
This
first
was
released
for
sale
back
in
q4.
E
It's
not
a
new
processor
by
any
means,
so
that
was
the
the
spec
that
was
being
used
for
testing
windows,
10
and
testing
ubuntu.
E
The
macbook
pro
has
also
got
16
megabytes
of
ram.
It's
got
an
i7,
I
think
2
300
gigahertz
cpu
dated
second
quarter
2013..
E
Both
have
got
solid
state
drives
ssds.
So
between
the
two
machines,
the
cpu
is
the
primary
differentiator.
So
what
is
the
difference?
Well,
I
went
on
to
cpu.
Benchmark,
did
a
side
by
side
comparison
of
both
pcs
and
you've
got
at
the
bottom.
There
you've
got
what
they
call
the
cpu
mark,
the
athlon,
the
amd
chip,
the
pc
chip,
in
other
words,
it's
got
a
rating
of
3642
and
the
i7
has
got
a
rating
of
6063..
E
I
have
not
taken
a
deep
dive
into
what
those
figures
are
presumably
doesn't
mean.
The
the
i7
is
twice
as
fast,
because
you
know
that
that
amd
chip
isn't
a
bad
chip
anyway,
but
you
know
anecdotally.
We
could
probably
say
that
the
i7
cpu
is
a
fair
bit
faster
than
the
amd.
Let's,
let's
just
you
know,
take
that
for
what
what
it
is.
E
Did
a
couple
of
things
so
we've
got
the
three
tests:
we've
got
mac
os.
You
know
my
macbook
pro
native
ubuntu
on
the
pc
and
then
windows,
10,
running
windows,
subsystem
for
linux,
on
the
pc
as
well,
and
just
a
reminder
by
the
cpu
benchmark.
The
mac
ought
to
be
considerably
faster
or
a
fair
bit
faster,
shall
we
say
than
either
windows
or
ubuntu.
E
So
I
tested
this
with
a
big
distribution.
It's
called
drupal,
it's
a
good
distribution.
Actually,
if
you're
curious
take
a
look
at
it,
it
comes
with
a
lot
of
demo.
Content
takes
quite
a
long
time
to
install
and
and
how
a
time
did
it's
a
drupal
installation
if
you
haven't
done
for
a
while
or
whatever
it's
like
a
two-part
process,
you've
got
to
do
the
first
load
and
then
you've
got
to
pause,
enter
the
the
database,
details
and
passwords
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
then
you've
got
to
resume
the
installation.
E
So
I
paused
the
stopwatch
halfway
through
the
this
installation
was
done
literally
with
the
stopwatch
on
the
phone.
So,
let's
say:
there's
a
margin
of
error
of
plus
or
minus
two
seconds,
just
allowing
for
reaction
times
stopping
and
starting
stopwatch,
and
the
market
took
nearly
five
minutes
to
install.
As
I
say,
it's
a
big.
It's
a
big
distribution,
it's
hefty
native!
E
You
want
to
a
little
bit
better,
but
not
much
frankly
and
in
theory
on
a
much
slower
machine
coming
in
a
bit
better
at
four
minutes,
a
bit
of
a
difference
under
a
windows
subsystem
for
linux,
on
d,
dev,
running
d,
dev,
seven
minutes
32,
but
again,
bear
in
mind.
You
know
this.
This,
the
cpu
on
this
machine
somewhat
slower
than
the
cpu
in
the
on
the
macbook.
So
you've
got
to
take
that
into
account.
E
So
on
a
home
page.
What
I
then
did
is
via
chrome
inspector.
I
did
a
full
hard
reload
on
the
mac,
5.2
ubuntu
1.8
catching
up
now,
windows,
subsystem
filling
it
to
2.4
seconds
and
then
a
second
load,
obviously
with
stuff
cached
in
the
browser,
2.1
1.1.
But
then
look
at
this
windows
system
for
linux,
0.7,
beating
everything
on
a
much
slower,
pc
and
then
going
into
the
module
page.
Just
doing
the
first
load
7.5
3.6
6.2,
but
then
on
a
subsequent
load.
E
E
So
that's
that's
the
overview.
In
conclusion,
I
still
like
my
three
monitor
pc
setup.
I
still
have
doubts
whether
using
a
macbook
pro
laptop
on
an
ongoing
basis
is
maybe
the
the
best
solution
for
that
I'll
need
to
get
bound
round
to
buying
some
new
hardware
at
some
point
in
the
future.
It's
nice
to
have
some
redundancy
hardware
at
home.
You
know
in
case
I
drop
the
macbook
leave
it
on
a
train
whatever,
and
so
it's
good
to
have
a
backup
system
so
that
your
work
isn't
interrupting.
E
E
With
windows
subsystem
for
linux,
running
d
dev,
I
expect
this
is
just
the
beginning
and
that
things
will
improve
a
lot
as
it
gets
more
attention
more
development
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
there
you
go
over
to
questions.
But
frankly,
if
there
are
questions
apart
from
my
own
experience,
they're,
probably
better
directed
at
randy
actually,
but
but.
G
My
own
experience
is
even
better
than
yours
when
I
run
when
I
run
wsl
2
in
parallels
on
a
mac,
in
other
words,
already
virtualized
it's
faster
than
on
the
mac
with
nfs.
So
it
is,
I
think
people
be
switching
from
the
mac
to
windows,
just
to
use
wsl,
2
and
because
they're
annoyed
with
apple
about
catalina
and
stuff,
like
that.
E
D
I
think
one
of
the
other
things
that
is
worth
noting
is
even
if
it's
only
the
same
speed
as
it
is
on
a
mac.
You
can
pick
up
a
windows
machine
at
a
lot,
less
cost.
Absolutely
so
it's
it
may
not
save
you
time,
but
it
will
save
you
money
and
if,
if
cost
is
one
of
the
reasons
you're
debating
switching
back,
then
not
quite
no
brainer,
but
it's
certainly
a
big
tick
in
the
windows
box,
if
only
if
only
sketch
was
a
bit
more
pro
windows
and
linux.
E
I
I
I
don't
do
much
collaborative
work,
which
is
where
sketching
thinking
might
have
big
strengths
for
working
with
teams,
but
just
for
general
illustration
work
and
that
kind
of
thing
knocking
out
a
logo
affinity
designer
you
just
cannot
go
wrong
with
it
costs
about
50
quid
and
there's
no
monthly
subscription.
It's
it's
brilliant.
It's
really
good,
and
the
great
thing
is,
if
I
did
go
down
the
window
through,
I've
got
access
to
all
of
the
software
that
I
use
on.
A
mac
affinity
is
available
for
windows.
B
G
The
one
thing
that
gives
me
trouble:
I'm
a
big
fan
of
wsl-2.
I
think
it's
an
amazing
breakthrough
and
I
think
it's
astonishing
that
microsoft
did
that
and
that
the
quality
is
so
high
and
the
performance
is
so
good.
But
it's
a
a
big
context,
switch
so
you're.
Here
you
are
working
on
a
gui
system
and
you
know
how
to
do
stuff
and
you
do
it
and
then
you
need
to
go
into
the
wsl2
window
and
you're
in
linux.
G
All
of
a
sudden
you're
in
linux,
you're
using
a
whole
different
command,
set
you're
thinking
about
things
differently.
So
just
and
then,
of
course,
when
you're
in
when
you're
using
dev,
you
do
have
ssh
into
the
into
the
container
and
you're
in
a
different
linux
there
so
yeah.
G
So
you
got
three
different
worlds
that
you're
working
in,
but
I
I
like
it
quite
a
lot.
I
think
it's
extremely
well
done.
G
I
did
do
a
screencast,
starting
from
the
very
beginning
with
diet.
I
pasted
that
into
the
chat
it.
It
starts
from
nothing.
It
starts
from
a
clean
windows
machine
and
goes
through
wsl,
2
and
setting
and
all
the
way
through
to
using
ddev
with
a
quick
tutorial
on
ddo.
So,
if
you're
interested
in
trying
it
out,
that's
there.
E
Right,
okay!
Well,
like
I
said,
we've
got
quite
a
bit
of
ground
to
cover
this
evening.
I
guess
it's
open
over
to
oliver.
Next
for
his
talk
taking
flight
with
tailwind
css
over
to
you,
oliver.
E
H
Lovely
okay,
let
me
see,
can
I
show
my
screen.
I
should
be
able
to.
H
H
This
time
we're
doing
the
tailwind
css
talk,
and
I
remember
we
talked
about
tailwind
a
little
bit
before
doing
the
the
other
talk.
I
did
so
yeah
it'd
be
nice
to
go
a
little
bit
more
sort
of
in
depth
and
into
that.
As
part
of
this
talk
and
yeah
just
a
fun
fact.
These
sides
are
built
with
with
tailwind
for
the
styling,
which
I
think
is
quite
interesting.
H
I'm
using
a
package
called
vlmd
which
is
reveal.js
in
markdown
and
then
using
tailwind
to
do
all
the
styling,
which
I'm
doing
a
blog
post
about
soon
but
yeah.
I
thought
it
was
quite
interesting.
So
a
little
bit
about
me,
I'm
oliver,
I'm
a
software
developer.
I
currently
work
for
in
vika
work
remotely
from
home
and
as
well
as
doing
some
free-hours
work
so
inside
as
well.
I
organized
the
php
south
wales
meetup
at
the
moment,
used
to
organize
drupal
bristol
meetups
in
the
drupal
camp.
H
Yeah,
I
can't
remember
where
they
used
this
slide.
Last
time
I
can't
sure
which
talk
I
did
last
time,
but
this
is
my
typical
sort
of
tech
stack.
I've
been
doing
drupal
for
12
or
13
years
now,
just
gone
over
10
years,
full
time
doing
drupal,
but
I
do
not
work
with
symphony
and
some
other
work
with
some
other
peach,
mostly
php
javascript
based
things.
H
But
one
of
the
interesting
things
is
I've
been
able
to
use
tailwind
or
have
been
using
tailwind,
even
with
all
of
these
things.
So
that's
it's
quite
nice
to
have
something
there
for
some
sort
of
consistency,
switching
between
frameworks
and
things.
H
H
H
But
tailwind
has
been
doing
this.
You
know
it
was
built
up
from
that,
so
as
a
primary
thing,
rather
than
other
than
the
way
afterwards
and
then
yeah.
Another
key
point
on
this,
I
think
for
me,
is
custom
designs,
so
there
isn't
sort
of
one
standard
tailwind,
looking
site
like
you
might
get
with
bootstrap.
If
you
look
at
a
booth's
job
site,
you
can
usually
go.
Oh
yeah,
that's
that's
a
bootstrap
website,
but
it's
not
because
the
tailwind
classes
are
so
low
level.
H
H
H
So,
as
I
said,
it
comes
the
number
of
defaults
for
things
like
colors
and
fonts
and
paddings
and
widths
and
everything-
and
it
gives
us,
then
those
are
constraints
that
we
can
use
in
our
in
our
projects.
H
So
some
of
the
things
that
herwin
includes
this
is
a
little
bit
out
of
date.
H
Now,
because
it's
giving
me
a
few
releases-
and
I
did
these
slides
but
text
border
and
background
color
font,
size,
font,
weight
and
font,
family
alignment
so
left
left
right
center,
justified
alignment,
padding
margin,
negative
margin,
there's
flexbox
helpers,
there's
positioning
for
absolute
and
relative
positioning
lists,
z
index
opacity
screen
reader
visibility,
so
there's
an
sr
only
class,
which
is
similar
to
the
element,
invisible
or
visually
hidden
class
we've
seen
in
drupal,
placeholder,
colors,
first
child
last
night,
and
child
css
grid
has
been
added
in
fairly
recently.
H
But
quite
recently,
a
lot
of
people
wanted
css
grid
support
in
tailwind
transitions
transforms
and
then
some
that
I
like
these
spacing
and
divide
classes.
So
you
can
just
set
a
value
on
the
parent,
and
so
the
spacing
between
the
children
should
be
a
value
of
eight
and
it
adds
the
margin
on
the
children
and
deals
with
the
first
child
case.
Everything
which
is
really
nice
and
yeah.
There's
a
lot
more,
but
there's
just
a
few
that
I
want
to
highlight,
and
these
are
all
generated
from
a
single
customizable,
config
file.
H
So
a
couple
of
examples:
this
is
the
laravel
nova
page,
so
this
is
built
with
tailwind.
This
is
the
firefox
send
website.
This
is
also
built
with
tailwind,
and
you
know
this
is
a
drupal
meetup.
So
hopefully
this
looks
familiar
to
a
lot
of
people,
but
this
is
a
version
that
I
built
of
bartik,
which
is
just
plain
html,
with
tailwind
that
I
built
in
about
an
hour.
I
think,
maybe
with
this
and
using
some
vjs
or
some
alpine
js
now
for
toggling
the
menus,
as
you
can
see,
I've
just
three
examples.
F
H
H
So
what
we
don't
and
have
is
there
is
a
style
sheet,
but
what
we
don't
settings
for
every
component,
adding
new
css
for
every
single
component
tailwind
will
generate
all
the
classes
that
that
you
need
or
too
many
kind
of
more
classes
that
you
could
need.
You
pick
and
choose
the
ones
that
you're
going
to
use,
and
then
we
add
start
by
adding
them
directly
into
our
markup.
H
So
there's
some
benefits
to
that.
But
we
don't
need
to
think
of
lots
of
class
names.
We
don't
need
to
switch
between
our
html
and
our
css,
because
we're
just
doing
everything
in
one
file
there's
a
lot
less
context.
Switching
so
there's
a
speed
gain
from
that
always
switching
between
different
files,
and
I
said
because
we're
building
with
utility
classes,
we
don't
usually
need
to
write
any
custom
css
at
all.
I
mean
you
still.
H
Can
they
added
gradient
support
in
in
the
new
version
that's
released
this
week,
but
that
was
typically
an
example
of
something
we'd
have
to
write
custom
css
for
and
that's
totally
fine,
but
like
that
that
bartek
example
like
there
was
no
custom
css
there
at
all.
It
was
just
just
tearing
classes
out
of
the
box
and
applying
those
classes
to
exist
in
markup.
H
So,
as
I
said,
there
are
some
benefits:
yeah
typically,
you
aren't
wasting
time,
say:
switching
between
css
and
html
and
back
and
forth
you're,
seeing
everything
in
one
file
just
as
you're
looking
at
it,
and
also
you
don't
need
to
think
of
like
class
names.
H
I
remember
looking
at
sidebar
left
in
a
wrapper,
something
like
essentially
if
something
is
a
flex
container
and
that's
all
it's
doing
give
it
a
class
of
flex
like
it's
a
flex
container,
it
doesn't
need
you
don't
need
to
sit
there
and
think
of
these
crazy
long,
bem
style
names
for
everything.
H
You
say
your
css
stops
growing
so
because
you're
reusing
the
existing
classes,
all
the
time
you're
not
repeating
different
values
in
different
style
sheets.
You
know
having
to
keep
writing
new
css
for
every
new
component,
so
the
unless
you're
gonna,
you
know.
Yes,
you
do
need
to
write
customers,
but
typically,
then
you
don't
need
the
the
right
skills
you
need
to
write
is
a
lot
is
a
lot
smaller
and
yeah.
There's
lots
more
mixed.
H
I'm
making
changes
feel
safer
so
because,
typically,
if
you're
writing
style
sheets
and
then
changing
them,
you
know
those
changes
are
global
and
could
affect
anything
in
your
in
your
site
because
changing
markup.
You
know
that
that's
got
a
local
scope,
so
you
can
be
happy
that
changing
something
in
your
markup
is
only
going
to
affect
that
particular
element
and
not
have
some
knock-on
effect
elsewhere.
H
So
the
next
few
slides
are
some
screenshots
from
the
terwin
css
site
itself.
If
you
want
to
see
the
whole
thing,
then
you
can
go
to
the
website
and
look
at
it,
but
hopefully
they
should
give
us
some
a
bit
more
visual
idea
of
how
it
works.
H
H
H
We
can
change
the
color
of
the
text
by
giving
that
it's
of
purple
purple
500.
So
the
text
the
colors,
have
names
of
the
colors
and
then
a
sliding
scale
of
everything
from
100
to
900,
but
starting
very
lightly,
going
to
very
dark.
So
500
is
is
a
mid,
mid
level
purple
and
then
we
can
set
some
gray
text
on
on.
F
H
So
that's
your
example
on
the
website
starts,
looking
at
responsive
things
as
well,
and
some
other
things
we'll
we'll
get
to
that
in
this
talk
but
yeah.
I
think
that
should
be
enough
to
just
give
us
a
flavor
of
how
we
start
applying
these
classes
and
how
we
can
build
styling
using
the
existing
classes.
The
tailwind
gives
us.
H
That's
fine
if
you
just
want
to
start
prototyping
something
or
yeah
just
want
to
test
something
out
quite
quickly,
but
if
you
want
to
get
the
most
out
of
tailwind,
you
really
really
should
install
it
fire
npm
and
that's
what
they
suggest,
that
you
do
and
so
there's
some
advantages
of
some
disadvantages
to
using
the
cdn
so
that
we
can't
customize
anything.
We've
got
no
access
to
the
configuration
at
all.
We
can't
enable
additional
features
and
we
can't
install
extra
plugins.
H
H
So
now
you've
done
that
we
need
to
actually
add
turbine
into
our
css.
So
until
when
success
doesn't
have
said
already,
is
a
post
css
plugin?
So
I
typically
just
write
post
css,
which
is
why
there's
a
dot,
p
css
file
here
or
this
example
of
one
you
can
use
it
with
sas
or
less
or
some
sort
of
preprocessor
as
well.
If
you
want
to,
but
I
typically
just
use
pub
css
here
we
can
see
these
at
tailwind
directives.
H
So
essentially
these
are
placeholders
for
where
tailwind
is
going
to
output,
its
things
so
differently
to
sas
and
less,
which
is
a
preprocessor
procedure,
has
a
sort
of
a
post
processor.
So
it's
going
to
run
after
it's
compiled
everything
and
what
tailwind
will
do
is
looking
for
these
placeholders
like
at
toe
and
bass,
and
then
it'll
replace
these
placeholders
with
taiwan's
actual
styles.
H
So
to
the
bit
split
into
three
sections.
The
first
is
base,
so
it's
just
some
resets
pulls
in
a
couple
of
different
libraries
just
to
give
a
quite
intelligent
sort
of
reset
to
everything,
and
then
we've
got
some
components
which
I
believe
is
still
just
a
container.
H
I
don't
think
they
have
any
additional
components
in
there
and
call
yet
and
then
the
last
one
is
the
utilities
which
is
got
the
the
main.
The
main
part
of
it.
H
I
said
you
can
still
write
your
own
custom
styles,
so
this
is
how
you
should
do
it
and
because
of
the
way
the
cascade
works,
you
should
put
the
custom
start,
your
own
custom
styles
after
the
tailwind
base.
Styles
then
put
your
custom
components
after
tailwind's
components
and
then
your
custom
utilities
after
tailwinds
utilities.
H
So
this
means
the
way
again
the
way
the
cascade
works
is
we
can
apply
components
to
the
base
and
they
will
override
and
then
likewise
again,
we
can
override
component
spatic
utilities
to
them.
H
So
now
we've
got
a
source
file
built.
We
need
to
process
it
somehow
and
there's
a
build
command
built
into
taiwan.
To
do
this,
so
we
can
just
run
tailwind
build
and
we
can
specify
the
path
of
the
source
file,
which
is
our
dot
pcs.css
file
or.
B
H
Sas
file
or
whatever,
and
then
we
specify
the
output
file
so
we're
just
going
to
output
just
a
normal
plain
css
file
in
this
case
we're
doing
it
into
a
build,
a
build
directory.
First
of
all
and
here's
just
an
example,
a
couple
of
utilities:
these
are
the
text
align
utilities,
so
we've
got
one
for
left
one
for
center,
one
for
right
and
one
for
justify
and
I'll
say
this
a
lot
more.
H
But
it's
just
yeah
very
small
example
of
some
of
the
stuff
that
generates
and
and
most
of
them
are
one
line
properties,
one
line
rules
inside
each
utility
so
and
they're
very
tight
they're
pretty
like.
If
you
want
one
and
that
says
to
text
right,
you
can
pretty
much
guess
that
it's
text
right
in
most
cases
that
is
pretty
intuitive,
that's
the
things
that
it
generates.
H
So
using
the
build
command
is,
is
fine.
It's
like
again.
I
just
want
to
test
things
out
and
see
how
it
works.
If
you
be
building
it
a
lot,
then
I
tend
to
use
something
like
webpack,
encore
or
laravel
mix,
or
something
to
do
the
building
some
sort
of
gulp
something
that's
going
to
do
the
processing.
So
typically,
I've
been
using
webpack
encore,
which
is
part
of
symphony
components,
but
isn't
isn't
type
symphony
at
all.
H
So
again,
you
can
add
this
in
as
an
npm
dependency,
in
the
same
way
that
we
did
with
tailwind
itself
by
using
npm
install,
and
then
we
added
a
configuration
file.
This
is
webpack.config.js.
This
is
where
we're
just
going
to
configure
oncol.
H
So
the
the
key
things
here
is
the
set
output
path.
So
we
need
to
tell
we
go
output
or
compile
things
into
our
build
directory.
For
this
example,
again,
the
the
public
path
is
going
to
be
slash,
build
as
well.
If
this
was
a
drupal
theme,
it
would
be
themes.
Custom
theme
name
build,
probably
and
then
we'll
add
a
style
entry.
H
So
we're
going
to
add
one
called
app,
which
just
means
that
our
generated
file
is
going
to
app.css
and
then
pass
through
the
source
file,
which
is
our
post
css
file
and
then
for
encore.
You
also
try
to
enable
the
post
css
loader,
so
it
knows
to
enable
post,
css
and
run
it
and
behind
the
scenes
is
just
generating
a
webpack
config
file
like
a
standard
webpack
config
file
behind
the
scenes.
It
just
gives
you
a
lot
of
helpers
for
doing
that.
H
In
our
post
css
file,
we
need
to
enable
tailwind
itself,
so
we
can
just
require
an
array
of
plugins.
So
typically,
I
use
a
couple
of
other
ones
as
well,
but
in
this
case
we'll
just
use,
I
like
reps,
using
some,
like
nesting
and
custom
variables,
so
to
replicate
some
of
the
features
of
sas.
But
in
this
case
we
can
just
use
just
required
helmet
itself.
H
And
let's
do
an
actual
build,
we
can
run
encore
dev,
which
is
just
going
to
make
a
development
version
of
of
our
assets.
In
this
case,
is
you
can
see
that
it
just
says
one
file
written
to
our
distracted
12
to
our
build
directory?
It
should
be-
and
in
this
case
it's
quite
big
because
it's
got
everything
everything
in
it.
H
And
now
we've
got
that
built.
We
just
need
to
reference
it
in
our
css.
So
in
our
drupal
theme
we
dab
it
into
some
into
one
of
our
libraries
files,
but
this
is
just
a
plain
html
example
we're
just
going
to
add
a
stylesheet
link
to
our
built
app.css
file,
and
then
we
can
just
start
applying
those
classes
that
we
saw
previously.
H
Okay,
so
next
we're
going
to
look
at
interaction
states
so
most
of
the
at
least
the
the
text
line.
H
Examples
we
saw
like
a
lot
of
people
just
go,
isn't
this
very
similar
to
inline
styles
and
a
lot
of
those
sort
of
are,
but
this
is
where
we
start
differentiating
from
things
that
we
can't
really
do
with
inline
styles,
so
inline
styles,
we
can't
really
do
things
like
hover
and
focus
and
group
hover
and
that
type
of
thing,
whereas
with
tier
ones,
we
can
so
the
format
for
these
are
some
sort
of
states
such
as
hover
focus
group
focus
or
whatever.
H
That
is
separator.
So
typically
that
tends
to
be
a
colon
and
again
we
can
configure
that
if
we
need
to
and
then
the
class
name
so
to
apply
text
read
500
when
we're
hovering,
we
just
say
hover
colon
text,
red
500,
and
this
works
with
pretty
much
every
any
class
that
taiwan
generates
and,
as
I
said,
there's
a
number
of
these
interaction
states
that
we
can
use
as
well.
H
H
So
what
what
the
css
is
doing
is
it's
going
to
escape
the
colon,
the
separator
column,
which
is
fine
and
then
add
the
hover
studio
class
at
the
end.
So
I
quite
like
this
because
then
it's
all
you're
doing
is
just
applying
any
clasp
and
just
prefix
prefix
in
the
name
of
the
state
you're
not
having
to
do
sort
of
red
hover,
500
or
some
like
we're,
not
changing
the
class
name
anyway,
we're
just
prefixing
it,
which
is
quite
quite
a
nice
version.
I
think.
H
H
And
you
can
see,
there's
this
key
called
variant
and
then
a
list
of
modules
and
variations
that
we
have
options
for
so
most
of
these,
I
think
in
fact
all
of
them
have
responsive,
so
they
also
get
responsive
classes.
We
look
at
that
in
a
moment.
We
can
see
background
color.
We've
also
got
hover
in
focus
and
utilities
that
get
generated
so
again.
H
If
we
didn't
want
hover
and
focus
one
of
these,
we
could,
you
know
override
this
in
our
own
custom,
config
file
or
if
we
didn't
want
to
use
these
at
all,
we
could
in
fact
remove
them
completely.
H
So
it
does
generate
responsive
classes
as
well.
It
follows
a
very
similar
format,
but
rather
than
the
state
we're
going
to
pass
through
a
valley
for
us
a
screen
and
then
again
our
separator
and
then
the
class
name.
H
So
in
the
default
config
we
get
this
screens
key
and
the
t-shirt
sized
again
so
small
medium
large
extra
large.
I
think
these
are
the
same
as
the
ones
that
bootstrap
use
now
these
the
in
the
very
early
versions
of
tailwind
they're,
slightly
different
to
the
ones
bootstrap
use.
But
I
think
these
are
the
same
now
and
these
are
all
minimum
width
values.
H
So
it
will
generate
a
number
of
of
minimum
width,
media
queries
and
again,
if
you
want,
if
you
don't
need
extra
large
in
your
project,
you
can
take
the
extra
large
value
out
in
your
config
file
and
then
they
just
won't
get.
They
won't
generate
any
at
all.
And
if
your
project
needs
small
to
be
slightly
different
again,
you
can
override
them
and
it
will
generate
different
variations
for
you
and
how
do
we
apply
them?
We
just
prefix
the
class
name
with
the
name
of
the
screen,
so
in
the
case
mdflex.
H
And
then,
as
I
said,
min
minimum
width,
media
queries
so
640
pixels
and
above
we
have
sm
block
and
then
768
and
above
it's
going
to
be
md
block.
H
H
So
here's
another
another
example.
This
is
just
building
some
simple
columns.
So
on
a
me
on
a
mobile
device,
bigger
things
we
display
block
and
full
width
and
then
on
a
medium
screen,
we're
going
to
use
display
flex
to
put
the
two
columns
next
to
each
other
and
then
give
each
one
a
width
of
one
half.
H
H
So
keeping
things
small,
we
control
the
file
size
in
a
couple
of
different
ways.
The
first
way
is
just
to
remove
any
plugins
and
variants
that
we're
not
using.
So
if
you
take
a
look
at
that
variance
key
again
in
our
configuration
file,
these
are
the
ones
we
get
here
by
default.
H
So
that's
one
way
of
doing
it
manually
and
see
again.
We
can
do
the
same
thing
for
screens.
So
again,
if
we
don't
want-
or
we
don't
need
an
extra
large
screen
on
this
project,
we
can
remove
it
and
those
won't
get
generated,
and
if
we
don't
need
so
many
shades
of
grey
on
this
project,
we
can
take
that
again
out
of
our
config
file
and
those
just
won't
get
generated
when
we
do
the
build
so
problem
with
this,
I
guess
is
this
needs
to
be
done
manually,
but
there
is
an
option.
H
There
is
another
option.
We
can
do
this
automatically
and
this
is
done
by
using
a
tool
called
purge.css
and
it's
just
tool
that
scans.
Your
templates
primarily
and
looks
for
tries
to
do
some
string
matching
and
says:
we've
got
a
class,
that's
in
text
read
500.
Do
we
use
that
in
our
markup
anyway,
and
if
we
don't,
it
would
just
remove
it
and
then,
as
of
turbine
1.4,
it's
included
by
default,
which
is
pretty
cool
as
well.
H
So
this
is
very
much
a
best
practice
and,
as
I
said
it
gives,
you
tailwind
gives
you
too
much
of
the
box
or
more
than
you.
Could
you
really
going
to
use
on
a
project?
And
it's
I
think,
the
last
time
I
did
it.
It
was
like
a
1.6
meg
css
file
that
it
created
was
uncompressed
and
unminified
as
well,
so
purging
pushing
the
market.
Your
classes
against
your
markup
is
definitely
best
practice.
H
So
as
of
table
in
c
1.4.
H
We've
got
this
purge
key
that
we
can
add
to
our
configuration
file
and
we
can
give
a
list
of
paths
or
patterns
to
match
against,
and
we
can
just
say
here's
our
templates
or
our
html
and
our
view
or
our
jsx
or
our
twig
templates
or
whatever,
and
then
again
at
build
time,
it's
just
tailwind
or
previous.
Yes,
it's
just
going
to
scan
those
look
for
any
classes,
we're
not
using
and
then
just
remove
them.
H
And
so
this
one
happened
forgot
when
this
is
going
to
be
our
development
version.
That
will
just
keep
everything,
and
so
everything
is
there
for
us
by
default
when
we're
going
to
be
building
locally.
H
But
then,
when
we're
going
to
do
a
production,
build
then
we're
going
to
want
to
run
a
different
command,
so
an
encore
prod
and
this
node
environment
variable
needs
to
be
set
for
purchase
s
to
do
it
to
enable
purging
the
other
way
of
doing
it
would
be
to
set
it
inside
the
wordpack
config,
which
is
what
I
usually
do,
but
this
command
will
trigger
both
to
say
this
is
a
production
build,
and
this
will
do
the
purging
it
will
minify
the
resulting
file
and
compress
it
as
well.
H
So
there's
a
couple
of
techniques
that
we
can
use
again,
a
pretty
common
sort
of
first
opinion
is.
This
must
be
really
difficult
to
maintain
having
these
duplicated
classes
everywhere,
particularly
for
things
like
you
know,
buttons,
maybe,
for
example,
that
you
don't
have
to
redefine
the
same
set
of
classes
for
every
button.
H
So
there's
a
couple
of
ways
we
can
get
around
this
yeah
and
we
can
avoid
repetition
by
extracting
components.
But
first
of
all
the
idea
does
something
justify
becoming
a
component.
So
if
it's
something
like
like
a
navbar
on
a
site,
we're
only
going
to
get
one
navbar.
H
So
in
that
case
I
probably
wouldn't
justify.
I
wouldn't
consider
that
to
be
a
component
unless
it's
something
I
want
to
distract,
maybe
for
readability,
that's
probably
something
I
would
just
leave
being
in
line
and
yeah
and
then
could
the
duplication
be
moved
elsewhere,
so
make
like
drupal
8
uses
twig.
So
we
could
use
twig,
partials
or
using
view
could
use
a
few
components.
H
H
So
here's
an
example.
This
is
just
looping
over
a
list
of
navigation
items
that
are
stored
somewhere
else
and
rather
than
redefining
the
same
list
of
classes
everywhere,
we've
only
actually
got
this
list
of
classes
in
one
place
now
because
we're
looping
over
them.
H
If
you
look
at
this,
if
you
just
do
view
source
on
this
page
and
also
you're
going
to
see
them
multiple
times,
but
from
a
development
perspective
like
if
we
wanted
to
increase
some
padding
or
make
some
changes
here,
we
need
to
do
it
in
one
place
and
that
will
update
all
of
them
automatically
yeah.
Another
option
is
to
use
like
this
using
a
twig
include,
so
I've
got
a.
This
is
just
generating
two
lists
of
classes
from
a
martial
arts
site.
I
was
building
so
yeah.
H
It's
going
to
just
output
the
adult
class
at
the
top
and
the
kids
classes
at
the
bottom,
but
I've
extracted
a
component
called
the
class
list
and
that's
where
all
the
duplicate
classes
live
or
what
would
be
the
typical
classes
actually,
so
there
aren't
any
big
classes
in
this
case
now
and
what
I'm
doing
is
passing
in
the
database
dynamics,
so
it
passed
through
the
the
classes
that
we
need
and
which
type
of
class
we're
going
to
output
yeah.
All
the
markup
has
been
is
consolidated
into
one
place
using
that
twig
partial.
H
So
the
other
option
we
can
use
if,
if
we
can't
use
like
a
template
component,
taiwan
does
give
us
this
option
to
use
something
called
add
apply,
and
this
is
something
that
comes
from
the
less
the
less
preprocessor
and
essentially,
we
can
use
any
of
the
classes
that
we've
already
seen
and
we
can
just
say,
add,
apply
and
then,
when
post
css
goes
over,
the
does
the
build
it
will
replace
those
with
the
values
that
that
in
the
class
would
have
done.
H
So
in
this
case,
it's
going
to
apply
tech,
small
and
no
underline
of
font,
bold
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
something
that
it
currently
doesn't
do
is
apply
for
the
studio
classes
for
something
like
hover.
We
couldn't
do
at
apply
hover
colon,
bg,
blue
700.
As
things
stand.
Currently,
you
need
to
actually
define
that
as
a
separate,
separate
thing,
although,
as
of
1.7
that
was
released
this
week,
there's
an
experimental
feature
where
you
can
enable
pi
for
complex
classes
and
it's
meant
to
work
the
way
by
doing
apply,
hovercall
and
whatever.
H
So
it's
not
in
there
officially
yet,
but
it
is
option
option.
It
is
there
and
we
can
opt
into
it
for
now
anyway,
so
free
to
do
that.
This
is
what
we'd
get.
So
it's
a
bit
similar
to
twit
to
like
extends
in
in
sas
or
something,
but
rather
than
grouping
all
the
rules
together.
It's
gonna
actually
make
its
own
contained
button
class
rather
than
joining
everything
else.
H
H
Something
to
mention
I
guess
at
this
point-
I
don't
have
a
slide
about
it,
but
typically,
I
think
people
reach
for
apply
a
little
bit
early
then
once
it
does
make
the
css
reusable.
What
you
don't
get
is
the
actual
structure
and
a
lot
of
the
time.
That's
just
as
important.
H
So
that's
where
using
this
type
of
thing
and
it's
fine
to
say,
like
here's,
a
button
class
and
a
you
know
a
button
wrapper
or
something.
But
then
you
need
to
know
that
needs
to
be
there,
because
the
nice
thing
about
having
the
the
partials
that
is
there
we
get
that
structure
by
default.
I
guess.
H
H
Taiwan
has
another
command
called
init,
which
just
creates
or
initializes
a
configuration
file,
and
the
configuration
file
is
typically
called
tailwind.config.js,
and
this
is
what
it
looks
like
it's
just
a
javascript
object.
H
Anybody
who's,
tailwind
sort
of
prior
to
1.0
like
this
looked
very
different
and
it
generated
like
a
massive
javascript
object
and
it
was
sort
of
your
responsibility
to
sort
of
maintain
that
over
time
and
there's
a
default
one
that
these
behind
the
scenes
that
we
saw
some
symbols
of
earlier
and
it
will
merge
your
config
on
top
of
its
internal
config.
So
this
is
very
much
like
just
your
overrides
and
your
additional
things
and
that's
what
I
think
is
quite
nice.
H
Excuse
me
yeah.
So
in
this
one
we
can
add
a
new
utility
here
called
text
and
inherits.
We
can
add
a
new
color
called
inherit,
so
we
can
do
that
by
adding
it
into
the
colors
under
into
the
colors
objects.
I
guess,
and
that
will
add
a
new
color
called
inherit
and
then
we'll
that
will
generate
a
new
text
in
herod
class
and
a
bg
inherited
class.
H
Sorry
dog
is
shaking
and
that's
fine,
but
in
this
case
it's
going
to
override
all
the
other
colors.
So
it's
going
to
remove
all
the
default
colors
and
then
just
give
us
just
one
color
in
this
case,
which
is
usually
fine,
because
if
you're
working
on
a
project
with
a
designer
and
you've
maybe
got
a
palette
of
colors
you
need
to
use,
then
you
can
just
say
completely
disregard
the
defaults
and
just
use
my
defined
colors.
H
Roofing,
a
couple
of
other
options
that
aren't
there
by
default,
but
they're
quite
useful
one
is,
is
prefix.
So
I
use
this
in
drupal
7
the
drupal
7
version
of
the
clean.
I
maintain
because
we've
got
a
class
like
block
that
we
saw
earlier
on,
which
is
display
block
in
tailwind,
but
it's
also
block
in
drupal,
as
in
sidebar
blocks
and
things.
H
So
in
the
drupal
7
version
of
these
themes,
I
was
adding
a
prefix
which
just
is
a
string
and
that
will
be
added
in
front
of
any
class
that
tailwind
generates
so
there's
typically
t
w
dash
or
u
dash
utility
that
just
avoids
any
conflicts
with
you
know:
standard
drupal,
markup
or
cms
framework
markup
or,
if
you're,
using
another
framework,
a
css
framework
like
maybe
using
bootstrap,
and
you
want
to
you
know,
not
have
clashes,
then
you
can
just
say
again
just
say:
prefix
tailwind
classes
with
something
so
that
everything
is
going
to
be
unique.
H
And
then
you
can
also
say
important
is
true.
If
you
want
every
tailwind
class
to
be
exclamation,
sign
important
on
everything
which
for
utilities
isn't
you
know
necessarily
a
bad
thing,
because
if
you
apply
a
class
to
a
an
element,
you
want
it
to
be,
you
know
you
want
to
do
something
and
not
get
overwritten.
H
There's
another
option
we
can
password
it,
which
is
full
and
that
is
just
going
to
generate
give
us
the
whole
javascript
object
like
it
would
have
done
with
preterm,
wind,
0.1,
1.0
and
again.
If
you
want
to
just
maintain
the
whole
thing
you
can
rather
than
merging.
H
Also,
we
can
extend
television
with
plugins.
I
might
maintain
a
couple
of
them
myself,
one
that
I
maintain
is
one
called
towing
css
list
reset.
This
was
a
class
that
was
there
prior
to
1.0
and
got
removed.
H
So
I
just
wrapped
it
up
into
a
plug-in
like
just
added
reuse,
so
there's
a
plugins
key
in
the
config
file
and
there
we
can
just
say
require
the
plugin,
and
this
is
what
the
list
reset
class
does
sensor
just
says
list
on
none
and
padding
zero,
so
something
that
you
know
I've
re
used
on
some
projects.
I
think
it's
that's
the
default
option
now
in
terms
of
1.0.
H
Occasionally
I
do
like
going
back
and
if
I
need
to
add
it
into
a
project,
doing
in
a
plug-in
is,
is
a
nice
reasonable
way
of
doing
it,
and
the
plugin
itself
is
just
a
javascript
file.
Was
one
javascript
file
and
tailwind
gives
us
some
functions
that
we
can
call
like
this.
One
is
called
add
utilities
and
in
there
we
can
just
call
pasu
and
object
exactly
in
the
background
and
object
of
of
css
idiot.
B
H
That's
right:
yes,
our
key
is
going
to
be
the
name
of
our
class.
This
is
this
typhon
reset
and
then
we're
just
going
to
specify
the
keys
of
the
css
property
so
list
style
in
a
camelcase
way.
Yeah,
which
is
none
and
padding,
is
zero
and
then
we're
just
going
to
specify
the
variance
that
we
get
passed
through.
So
if
we
want
responsive
versions
or
whatever
will
generate
those
for
us,
the
other
way
to
extend
this
as
well
is
just
you
can
just
add
classes
into
your
css.
H
The
demo
I
did
recently
so
we've
seen
rebuilding
bartik
page
a
couple.
I've
done,
one
which
is
rebuilding
aqueous
aqueous
platform.
I've
done
one
for
I'm
in
the
middle
of
doing
rebuilding
platform.
Sh,
it's
a
fun
one.
H
Before
I
did
this
talk
with
php
hampshire,
I
thought
it
would
be
fun
to
rebuild
the
symphony.com
website
or
at
least
part
of
it,
and
so
this
is
what
it
looks
like
like
the
actual
real
website
looks
like,
and
then
this
is
the
version
that
I
built
again
doing
it
from
scratch:
we're
using
plain
html,
so
not
copying
and
pasting
any
css
from
the
main
website
itself,
and
it's
all
done
using
tailwind
on
top.
H
So
it's
pretty
similar
to
what
we've
we've
already
looked
at
in
terms
of
setup.
We've
got
a
television
config
file
and
it's
just
a
plain
html
page,
so
we're
just
going
to
say
purge
any
classes.
We
don't
find
inside
this
html
file
overriding
some
font
families,
so
they
match
some
new
symphonies
ones
and
we
could
extend
the
color
palette
so
because
we're
inside
the
extend
here
we're
going
to
say
like
override
this
blue
500
rather
than
and
keep
you
know
the
100
200
and
everything
else
in
there
as
well.
H
I've
added
a
gray,
50
and
set.
You
know
these
values
in
here
as
well.
I've
also
added
one
for
silver,
which
isn't
isn't
there
by
the
fire
default
tool.
Doing
something
I
tell
you.
This
is
a
little
bit
hacky,
but
there's
been
some
discussions
about
adding
dark
mode
support
and
tailwind
like
this
is
the
way
they
recommend
doing
it.
H
Currently,
on
the
documentation
page,
I'm
using
a
media
query
with
a
raw
value
which
works
fine
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
an
official
supported
version
of
this,
and
then
it's
override
a
couple
of
variants
here,
so
we're
going
to
also
set
the
border
width
as
well
as
generating
responsive
classes.
We
can
generate
some
hover
and
some
focus
styles
as
well,
and
then
there's
no
custom
plugins
and
this
one
at
all.
H
The
webpack
config
file
is
pretty
much
what
we
saw
in
the
slides
in
terms
of
setup.
Although
the
output
path
is
going
into
web
build
and
let's
see
here,
yeah,
this
is
set
in
the
node
environment
in
the
config
files.
We
don't
need
to
do
it
when
we
run
the
command
itself
and
yeah.
This
is
how
the
the
source
file
looks
like
so
important
terminates
base
classes
at
the
top
setting
some
default
styles
for
links,
okay
using
add,
apply
so
give
it
a
nice
dark
red
and
slightly
larger
text
and
yeah.
H
Then
I'm
going
to
import
terwin's
components
and
then
I've
got
my
own
custom
component,
which
is
a
nav
item,
so
just
applying
display
flex
and
then
setting
a
gray,
color
and
making
the
text
extra
small.
But
then
on
large
screens
we
can
bump
that
size
up
to
be
small
rather
than
extra
small
and
then
there's
our
custom
dark
screen
from
decided
by
that
media.
Query
that
we
saw
and
you're
going
to
sound
dark
screens
make
it
200,
which
is
a
light
gray
rather
than
900
dark
grey.
H
Then
we
get
tailwinds
utilities
and
then
a
couple
of
custom
custom
utilities,
so
symphony
site
uses
this
filter
contrasting
for
switching
making
the
logo
a
different
color
on
dark
mode
versus
light
mode.
So
I
just
wrap
these
up
into
their
own
little
utilities
and
then
so
best
practice
like
they
encourage
you
to
make
like
a
range
of
them.
H
This
is
the
other
way
of
extending
tailwind
by
just
adding
these
classes
in
yeah,
and
then
adding
this
in
that
responsive
will
generate
the
responsive
variants
of
this
as
well,
and,
let's
see
css,
that's
the
same
as
what
we
saw
on
the
slide
and
yeah.
Let's
have
a
look
at
the
index
fund
itself,
so
yeah.
So
what
we've
seen
is
is
all
the
css
in
the
actual
css
files.
Everything
else
is
generated
by
adding
these
classes,
so
this
is
going
to
set
a
minimum
height
of
the
container
to
be
the
size
of
the
screen.
H
H
It's
a
black
background
on
this
one
we're
going
to
set
a
slightly
different
padding,
whether
it's
on
a
medium
screen-
and
you
know
that's
one
thing
I
like
about
tailwind
here-
is
it's
very
easy
to
look
at
something
and
know
exactly
how
what
it
does
and
how
it
looks
just
just
reading
this
and
yeah,
I
think,
like
my
first
reaction
for
everybody's
is,
is
just
look
at
it
and
go
look
at
all
these
classes
everywhere,
but
yeah
try
using
it
and
after
like
10
minutes,
it
was
really
not
much
of
a
thing.
H
This
is
inheriting
the
default
link
style
by
overriding
it,
adding
some
additional
classes
on
here.
That's
fine!
I'm
I'm
personally
fine
with
a
little
bit
of
repetition
on
these
which
yeah
I
could
extract
outside
the
class
as
well.
If
I
wanted
to,
and
today
I'm
using
the
these
dark
filter-
and
so
I'm
saying
on
dark
mode,
apply
this
into
this
invert
and
plug
in
some
files.
H
So
I
haven't
actually
explained
this
at
all.
So
the
scale
typically
works
as
four
is
one
ram
and
then
everything
else
is
proportional,
so
eight
is
double
four,
so
eight
is
two
ram
and
then
16
is
double
eight.
So
it's
all
proportional
based
on
that.
You
know
four
full
tailwind
units
being
one
ram
and
then
here
I'm
using
space
utility
to
say
space
out
the
children
on
the
vertical
axis
by
16.
So
that's
four,
eight
twelve
is
four
ram.
H
Does
that
automatically
yeah
and
again
it's
all
sort
of
responsive,
because
we
are
using
media
again,
it's
sort
of
encouraging
a
mobile
first
sort
of
best
practice
workflow.
I
guess
by
the
way
it
generates
everything
by
minimum
width.
There's
our
custom
with
arrow
class
in
here
yeah.
C
H
H
In
effect,
if
I
just
refresh
this
one
yeah
again,
there
they're
not
it's,
not
a
perfect
clone,
but
it's
it's
pretty
close
and
I
think
for
a
couple
of
hours
work.
I
think
it
was
definitely.
It
was
pretty
good.
H
And
okay,
so
a
couple
of
useful
links
here
so
yeah
telling
css.com
is
the
main
documentation
website.
They've
got
a
lot
of
examples
and
there's
a
screencast
series
adam's
been
still
working
on
the
creator.
They're
definitely
worth
taking
a
look
at
as
well.
H
It's
all
free
and
open
source
for
the
css
framework
side
of
things
and
tailwind
ui
is
a
paid
library
of
components.
So
you
can
purchase
that
as
a
one-time
thing
and
they
give
you
a
whole
library
of
reusable
components.
You
can
then
just
copy
and
paste
the
markup
from
and
then
make
this
made
customized
as
you
need
to
for
your
project,
built
with
taiwan,
is
a
community
brand
site
where
people
just
submit
their
projects
and
this
little
showcase
gallery
of
them.
H
Adam
does
streams
on
youtube,
occasionally
quite
regularly
working
on
tailwind
itself,
but
also
sort
of
rebuilding
projects.
Like
the
symphony
one
he's
rebuilt,
you.
B
H
H
So
it's
there
and
there's
a
triple
seven,
a
triple
eight
and
a
triple
nine
version,
and
so
it's
again
you
can
sort
of
use
it
and
then
rename
it
and
customize
it
as
as
you
want
I've
written
some
blog
posts
and
all
my
github
repos
are
all
at
this
table
and
vpools
link
as
well,
and
now
we
have
a
101
css
channel
on
the
drupal
slack
as
well.
That
was
set
up
quite
recently,
so
we've
got
a
little
sub
community
of
drupal
or
taiwan.
H
People
going
around
there
so
come
and
hang
out
with
tear
when
people
can
ask
some
questions
there
as
well,
if
you
think
of
any
after
the
fact
yeah.
Otherwise,
if
you've
got
some
questions,
now
quite
happy
to
answer
some
questions
now
or
feel
free
to
send
me
some
afterwards
paul.
I
bet
you
got
some
questions.
H
I
think
it
was
like
tailwind
components.com,
which
was
like
the
community
version
of
it
before
2y
was
a
thing,
so
yeah
there's
some
in
here,
but
these
are
all
again
community
sort
of
submitted
and
I
don't
know
how,
if
they're,
moderated
or
approved
or
anything,
so
these
these
are
quite
good
for
examples,
but
the
tailwind
ui
ones.
These
ones
are
pretty
awesome
but
yeah.
You
have
to
pay
for
these,
but
they
are
like
a
one-time
one-time
thing
yeah,
but
then
a
lot
of
the
times.
H
E
There
is
a
github
page
which
I'll
post
a
link
for
in
a
moment,
so
I've
got
my
bookmarks,
which
has
got
loads
and
loads
of
tailwind
resources.
It's
a
reflection.
E
Keep
scrolling
down
keep
going,
keep
going
yeah,
that's
the
one
and
the
there's
a
number
of
component
libraries
there
as
well
free
of
charge
and
sort
of
uploading
components,
there's
loads
to
go
out
there.
H
Yeah
it's
a
good
resource
as
well,
so
people
checking
this
out.
This
is
good
as
well.
Actually
I
saw
this
recently
taiwan.run,
so
you
get
this
little
sort
of
this
is
this
default.
Was
this
when
I
was
playing
with
it
yeah
it's
a
it's
like
a
code
pen
with
taiwan,
but
tailbone
built
into
it
already,
which
is
fine,
but
then
you
can
also
then
yeah.
H
Here's
a
config
file
and
you
can
add
more
stuff
in
so,
if
you
want
to
add
the
custom
forms
plug-in,
you
can
do
that
and
it'll
re-run
it
and
everything
this
is.
This
is
quite
cool.
You
can
see
what
it
would
generate
and
what
your
actual
css
looks
like
and
compiled
version
because
yeah
this
is
like
you
know,
yeah
a
lot
of
css.
B
H
B
B
H
H
You
know
what
it
actually
needs,
so
the
amount
of
capacity
as
you
get
is
going
to
be
usually
a
lot
less
than
you
would
get
even
by
writing
it
yourself
and
doing
the
per
component
or
per
module
based
styling,
because
you
don't
have
that
duplication
because
you're
just
reusing
the
same
classes.
All
the
time.
E
Can
you
tell
us
a
bit
more
about
the
drupal
theme
that
you've
you're
working
on
I've
just
installed
it
and
it's
a
first
installation,
it's
kind
of
unstyled?
Is
that
the
idea
that
it's
a
blank
canvas
or
do
I
need
to
initiate
something
to
come?
Do
an
initial
compilation.
You
know
so
things
like
pages
and
forms
are
better
styled
than
just
blank
canvas.
I
guess.
H
Yeah,
it's
especially
pretty
blank
like
I
didn't
want
to
go,
making
too
many
assumptions
for
anybody,
but
there
should
be
at
least
some
I
I
do
compile.
There
is
a
compiled
version
in
there,
like
purely
there,
for
testing
put
for
testing
or
demo
purposes
like
for
this,
so
you
can
just
load
it
up
on
simply
test
me
and
see
it
actually
working,
hopefully
so
yeah.
I
do
need
to
go
in
and
update
that
to
be
the
latest
version
between
1.7.2.
H
I
think
the
newest
one
there
so
yeah
I've
not
added
too
much
in
there
intentionally.
I've
just
made
an
issue
to
add
some
default
tab
styling
because
there's
no
tab
sliding
it
now
by
default,
and
I
think
I've
added
some
form
styling.
You
know
I
could
just
look
exactly
what's
in
there.
Couldn't
I
that
would
be
a
good
idea,
but
yeah
I
have
kept
it
quite
minimal.
E
And
see,
I
think,
I'd
like
to
see
something,
that's
kind
of
semi-styled.
You
know
just
not
necessarily
an
advanced
starting
point,
but
you
know
just
just
you
know
like
if
you
were
to
install
bootstrap
three,
for
example,
quadruple
the
the
original
bootstrap
thing.
You've
got
some
really
basic
styling.
It
just
gives
you
a
little
bit
more
a
teaser,
something
to
give
you
a
feel
for
what
you
might
be
able
to
expect.
H
Assumptions
everybody
yeah
definitely
here
for
some
tab
styling,
but
if
there's
any.
A
A
H
F
H
Been
that's
been
an
interesting
thing
like
I've,
I've
done
it
and
I've
sort
of
gone
myself
between.
Is
it
like
a
starter
kit
or
is
it
like
a
base
theme-
and
I
think
it
said
just
so-
there's
like
60
sites
using
it
or
something
but
yeah
the
way
I've
been
using.
It
recently
is
yeah,
that's
what
we're
getting
is
yeah
so
download
it
and
then
rename
it
and
then
it's
yours.
I
don't
see
as
much
benefit
to
it
being
a
base
theme
as
such.
H
So
I'm
also
having
debates
around
that
internally
and,
in
fact,
there's
some
code.
I
can
remove
if
I,
if
it
wasn't
to
be
considered
to
be
a
base
theme
at
all
like.
I
still
think
it's
fine
for
like
demos,
and
you
know
or
a
starter
kit,
but
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
the
benefit
is
because
you're
going
to
want
to
start
configuring
the
tailwind
instance
yourself
anyways.
Then
you
have
to
copy
config
files
into
your
theme.
So
having
it,
an
appearance
theme
doesn't
seem
to
make
much
sense,
but.
E
One
thing
that
I'm
increasingly
looking
at
when
I'm
reviewing
a
theme
is:
has
it
got
stuff
like
pre-packaged
javascript
so
that
drop-down
menus
work
how's
it
go
built
in
hamburger
menus,
for
you
know
a
mobile
view
of
the
site
just
so
that
I
don't
have
to
go
looking
around
the
london
trip
or-
or
you
know
looking
for
extras
to
make
it
complete
really.
A
H
H
Yeah,
I
don't
know
we'll
see
but
yeah.
This
is
what
I'm
doing
yeah.
If
you've
got
ideas,
you
know
stuff,
you
want
to
add,
you
can
feel
free
to
make
the
issues
and
always
have
enough
patches
and
issues
created,
and
I
can
have
a
look
there's
a
couple
more
in
here
now,
so
it's
nice
to
see
yeah
the
little
community
and
and
then
in
the
slack
channel
as
well.
There's
quite
there's-
I
don't
know
about
20
people
also
in
there
in
there
now,
but
it's
only
very
recently
been
added.
H
So
it's
nice
to
see
you
know
people
in
there
and
I
know
not
just
people
who
use
the
starter
kit
as
well.
This
celebrate
drupal
9
thing
is
done
with
tailwind
on
its
own,
but
you
know
dan
dan
is
in
that
channel
as
well.
So
we
can
sort
of
bounce
ideas
off
each
other.
E
I
think
this
utility
css
is
a
great
approach
really
and
in
a
lot
of
ways.
Drupal
lends
itself
to
it
in
terms
of
well
just
look
at
views.
For
example,
you
know.
C
E
You're
building
a
view
with
fields
you
know,
views
has
just
got
baked
in
ways
of
you've
been
able
to
drop
in
css
classes
and
likewise,
through
contrib,
you've
got
things
like
block
class
or
field
format
to
class,
which
again
will
just
allow
you
to
drop
in
these
utility
snippets
and-
and
you
know,
with
those
year,
you
know
if
you've
got
a
full,
a
full
library
to
start
with
you're
kind
of
halfway
there.
I
haven't
built
a
site
with
it.
Yet
what
what
worries
me
a
little
bit?
E
I
I
don't
really
like
diving
into
templates,
I
don't
know
any
twig.
I
don't
really
kill
frankly,
but.
E
E
If
I
was
to
use
tailwind,
would
I
where
would
I
be
spending
my
time?
Would
I
be
spending
my
time
in
twig
fails
or
would
I
be
making
the
most
of
what
drupal
and
contrib
can
give
me
in
terms
of
being
able
to
just
drop
classes
into
stuff,
or
would
I
be
using
a
kind
of
a
sass,
less
type
of
patch
approach
and
using
your
reply?
E
H
Yeah,
that's
another
way
to
always
say
block
class
or
something
is
another
one,
but
yeah
there's.
Definitely
people
who
you
know
sort
of
use
tailwind
just
to
begin
with
and
just
apply
everything
and
then
so
they're
still
using
sort
of
being
star
classes,
or
there
are
parts
of
drupal
that
are
a
bit
tricky
to
get
to,
because
then
I
just
rely
on
that
and
apply
for
that
in
some
places.
But
then
usually,
then
they
sort
of
start
doing
it.
H
That
way
and
then
typically
then
start
going
more
towards
the
template
type
approach
and
that's
what
I've
seen.
But
then
yeah
like
things
like
display,
suite
and
block
class
and
everything
should
work
as
long
as
then
assuming
you're
exporting
your
config
into
files
and
the
ammo
and
you're
then
including
that
in
the
purge
config.
So
then
it
knows
to
you
know
not
purge
those
classes
out,
which
is
why.
H
So
yeah,
just
for
example,
if
I
look
at
maybe
like
my
site-
even
you
know,
this
is
done
with
tailwind
and
stuff
and
there
are
a
couple
of
classes
in
like
views
and
things,
but
all
I've
done
is
inside.
The
telling
config
file
is
just
included
like
this
line's,
pretty
much
going
to
be
a
given
right
and
look
for
any
tweak
files.
Any
html
files
didn't
find
classes
inside
there,
but
yeah,
I'm
just
including
this
like
this
line
here,
so
I
include
any
classes
within
config.
H
So
if
I've
added
a
class
into
a
v,
which
I
think
I've
done
in
a
couple
of
places,
then
yeah
that'll
get
picked
up
here
and
I'm
not
I'd
rather
have
a
couple
of
false
positives
and
have
a
couple
of
classes.
Maybe
if
something
does
match
by
coincidence,
I'd
rather
have
you
know
a
couple
of
additional
classes
that
aren't
used
inside
my
purged
css
than
having
like
the
full,
the
full
version,
and
then
the
full
version
does.
Even
though
it's
like,
like
1.6
meg,
whatever
it
was
a
2
meg
by
default.
H
It
does
compress
really
like
that's
not
as
much
as
it
comes
through.
Like
over
the
wire
but
yeah,
it's
definitely
definitely
worth
purging.
So
let's
get
that
right
and
that's
something
I've
been.
I
was
trying
to
sort
of
figure
out
in
the
in
the
starter
kit.
A
lot
of
the
time
like
you
know,
what's
the
best
way
of
purging,
but
again
it's
let's
give
them
a
give,
give
a
default,
and
then
people
can
add
more
stuff
based
on
their
on
their
particular
use
case.
E
H
Do
I
have
one
yeah?
I've
got
a
page
in
here,
so
yeah
there's
just
a
couple
of
classes
at
the
top
here,
so
the
the
d7
version
everything's
prefixed,
with
tw
dash,
but
the
d8
one.
If
I'm
using,
I
think
using
classy
or
the
stable
bass
theme,
I've
not
hit
any
clash
clashes
with
it.
I've
been
trying
it
for
quite
a
while
on
a
couple
of
sites,
and
I
had
this
problem
and
not
had
any
problems,
so
the
d8
ones
are
not
prefixed
by
default.
H
So
yeah,
just
in
this
case
just
adding
some
classes
on
on
some
wrappers
and
things
so
face
them
and
talk
to
what
we
saw
in
the
other
ones
and
yeah
a
little
bit
of
alpine
js
in
there
as
well.
E
So
well,
this
is
interesting.
Do
you
think
it's
realistic
to
perhaps
invest
some
time
into
getting
your?
You
know
your
your
basic
page
container,
sorted
out
with
the
you
know,
the
container
classes
and
so
on.
I
see
you've
got
some
flex
in
there
and
what
have
you
and
then
doing
the
rest
with
either
display
suite
or
views
or
whatever,
and
and
maybe
not
even
doing
any
css
at
all,
apart
from
maybe
some
color
overrides
or
whatever.
H
Yeah,
I
guess
I
mean
that's,
that's
one
of
the
nice
things
about
it.
Is
it's
really
customizable
you
can
sort
of
use
it.
How
you
want
to
use
it
really
like
if
you
want
to
do
the
display
sweet
way,
mostly
then
yeah,
I'm
sure
that
would
that
would
work
as
well.
I've
got
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
components
in
here
that
I'm
using
it's
like
the
container,
I
think,
was
the
one
I
was
going
for
here.
H
Yeah
I've
just
got
a
container
I've
added.
You
know
width,
full
and
maximum
weight,
so
I'm
not
using
tailwinds
container
in
here
at
all,
using
this
custom
container.
It's
built
of
these
these
ones
and
yeah
I've
got
another
wrap.
So
in
some
places
I
am
extracting
some
some
classes,
but
not
as
much
of
go-to
approach
really
but
yeah.
You.
F
H
B
H
Yeah
exactly
and
it
is
meant
to
be
like
a
demo,
slash,
starter
kit:
it's
not
a
theme.
It's
not
meant
to
be
a
funny
thing,
but
yeah,
so
it
might
be
worth
building
about
a
bit
more,
maybe
but
yeah.
What
I
don't
really
want
to
do
is
then
people
then
start
and
then
start
having
to
undo
everything.
It's
sort
of
meant
to
be
more
of
a
starting
point
really
than
anything
else.
Yeah
yeah,
okay,.
C
C
E
As
I
was
just
saying
in
the
chat,
actually,
I
think
the
tailwind
ui
website
is
a
really
good
resource,
just
for
sort
of
seeing
how
it
can
all
be
put
together.
I.
H
Yeah
definitely
and
that's
the
again,
the
good
thing
about
nice
thing
about
those
is
they
are
starter
kits
again.
You
know
you
meant
to
oh,
I
quite
like
the
look
of
you
know,
there's
nav
bar
or
whatever
it
is,
and
here's
all
the
markup
that
it
needs
and
you
pretty
much
click
a
button
and
copy
paste
it
and
then
it's
yours,
then,
to
you
know,
change
how
you
want
to
change
it
yeah,
so
yeah
or
just
you
know,
reference
an
example.
As
you
said,.
E
Well,
this
is
one
of
the
points
I
was
you
know
when
I
asked
the
javascript
question.
I
don't
think
the
tailwind
ui
is
shipping
with
any
javascript
that,
likewise
in
a
way,
they're
leaving
it
as
a
blank
canvas
so
that
people
can
either
put
their
own
javascript
here
or
using
the
apps
or
some
view
or
whatever,
but
for
somebody
like
myself
that
doesn't
code
that
that's
that's
not
really
that
helpful.
I
would
just
like
to
sort
of
say
you
know
this
will
make
a
television
drop-down
menu.
E
This
will
make
a
tailwind
hamburger
menu
work
and
just
be
able
to
just
for
it
to
be
there.
You
know
I
don't
want
to.
Oh,
I
don't
know
how
to
code.
H
It
never
mind
they've
had
yeah,
there's
been
some
discussions
around
that,
like
they
did
ship
it
with
alpine
js
at
the
beginning,
which
was
you
know.
I
like
quite
like
alpine
for
these
little
things,
but
yeah,
I
think
again,
they
didn't
really
mean
for
it
to
be
production-ready
javascript
and
I
think
people
were
treating
it
as
such
and
then
also
you
know
people
like.
Oh.
If
I
want
to
do
this
in
react,
I
need
to
then
undo
all
the
all
the
the
alpine
stuff
well.
E
H
H
H
Interesting
times
yeah,
so
you
know
it's
they've
made
a
lot
of
money
from
101,
ui
and
other
things,
yeah
they've,
taken
on
these
staff
members.
So
like
yeah,
interesting
stuff
coming
down
the
pike,
I
think
no,
I
agree.
I.
E
Agree,
I
think
it's
watch
this
space.
I
think
it's
gonna
be
an
important
sort
of
thing.
H
Really
yeah
and
it's
interesting
again
as
well
like
how
like
different
people,
I
say:
bootstrap
have
started
doing
some
utilities
like
p4
or
whatever,
as
well
there's
another
one
called
tachyons
which
is
similar
but,
like
you
know,
these
guys
came
to
this
same
realization,
totally
different
perspectives.
H
C
H
I
started
looking
at
tachyons
and
used
that
for
a
little
while
then
when
to
tell
when
once
it
was
released,
but
like
yeah,
I
I
would
only
have
like
I
was
writing
css
today,
like
normal
css,
and
it
felt
so
strange
now
I'd
much
rather
do
this
approach,
if
I
can
just
like
the
readability
of
it
in
a
far,
but
also
I
know
what
I'm
changing
only
affects
this
thing.
You
know
I'm
not
going
to
worry
about
breaking
something
somewhere
else.
H
So
it's
and
I've
seen
a
lot
of
other
people
saying
that
as
well.
You
know
it's
now
they've
started
doing
it.
You
get
that
initial
reaction
of
look
at
all
those
classes,
and
you
get
over
that
and
then
once
you
really
start
using
it,
you
pick
up
so
much
speed
from
from
doing
it.
It's
sort
of
it's
hard
to
go
back.
H
No,
that's
all
I
don't
know,
I
don't
think
so.
I
think
again.
I
think
that
people
have
like
looking
at
the
scale
like
I
said.
Four
is
one
rem,
but
there's
no
five.
At
least
there
wasn't
the
beginning
so
that,
like
so
everyone
goes.
Why
is
it?
Why
isn't
there
a
five
and
then
once
you
sort
of
understand
that
it's
proportional
and
you
know,
there's
a
lot
more
smaller
values,
not
less
of
the
bigger
values?
For
for
reasons
you
know
that
makes
sense
like
for
me
yeah
the
methodology.
Like
a
lot.
H
I
learned
a
lot
about
like
all
the
css
grid
stuff.
I've
done
I've
done
with
tailwind,
so
I've
been
learning
about
that
from
using
tailwind
and
other
people
have
said
the
same
number
flexbox.
You
know
you've
really
learned
about
flexbox
from
using
tailwinder
from
those
examples
which
is
another
nice
side
effect.
H
For
the
most
part,
they
are
really
sort
of
obvious
one
of
a
better
word.
You
know
I
want
something:
that's
float
left,
so
the
I'll
guess
the
class
is
called
float
left,
which
it
is.
You
know
it's
yeah,
it's
it's
not
that
sort
of
hard
to
lose.
It
wasn't
for
me
anyway,
and
the
docs
are
awesome,
there's
a
very
comprehensive
documentation
around
it
with
examples
and
responsive
versions
and
everything.
E
Okay,
well,
that's
thanks
for
the
talk.
E
Are
there
any
more
tailwind
questions
just
out
of
interest,
just
any
any
dev
questions
since
we've
got
the
money
here,
the
expert.
G
Are
you
saying
what
where's
the
container
where's
where's
the
dwarf
project
where's
the
vpn?
What
what
kind
of
connection
are
you
talking
about.
A
G
I'm
still,
I'm
still
not
I'm
still
not
following
people
have
people
have
put
ddap
on
a
different
machine
so
that
they
can
use
a
fast
linux
machine.
They
have
used
vpn
from
within
a
container,
but
I
still.
A
G
G
If,
if
the
vpn
is
only
it
to
be
inside
the
container,
then
that's
just
a
matter
of
installing
the
vpn
inside
the
container,
if
that's
what's
needed,
but
most
people
run
the
vpn
on
the
host.
A
lot
of
people
run
into
this
with
work
situations.
Of
course
they
they
need
to
access
a
private,
composer,
repo
or
something
that
can
only
go
through
a
vpn,
and
so
they
so
they
have
to
do
that,
and
so
they
have
the
vpn
on
the
host
and
the
routing
from
within
the
container
just
works.
G
A
D
Knowing
the
clients
you'll
need
it,
no
it
it's
it's,
they
are
very
picky
and,
like
uat
environments,
don't
have
internet
connection
outbound.
You
know
it's
it's!
It's
really
tough,
really
tight,
vpn
control
right
right
down
to.
D
F
A
Yeah
I
was
just
curious.
I
figured
someone
had
been
saying
enough
to
try
it
at
some.
E
Point,
can
you
tell
us,
maybe
a
quick
commercial
break.
Tell
us
a
little
bit
more.
Tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
the
hosting
service
that
you're
launching
for.
G
Sure
sure
thank
you
yeah,
so
ddev
live
is
the
hosting
service
and
it's
a
it
is
a
command
line,
driven
thing
kind
of
like
dwap
local,
where
you
can
launch
a
site
or
or
do
all
those
things
that
you
do
from
the
command
line.
It's
get
get
driven.
So
when
you
push
when
you
push
a
commit
that
gets
deployed
and
we
have,
we
have
an
easy
way
to
try
it
out.
I
think
there's
a
10-day
free
trial
or
something
like
that
and
we'd
love
to
love
to
have
you.
G
Try
it
out,
go
to
dev.com
and
you'll,
see
the
live,
link
there
and
it'll
onboard
you
and
we've
got
a
dev
live
channel
and
drupal
slack
and
the
the
support
on
the
on
the
dwb
live
pages
is
great
too.
The
the
it
just
sends
an
email
and
he's
really
responsive.
Getting
back
on
that,
but
we'd
love
to
have
you
try
it
out.
G
I
think
I
think
it's
going
to
be
good.
The
you
know
the
the
current.
I
think
the
current
price
is
15
a
month
or
something
like
that
and
all
they
actually
have
rolled
out
is
like
the
one
site,
not
huge
site
option,
and
so
that's
a
that's
a
good
price.
I
think
the
other
stuff
they're
they're,
still
trying
to
figure
out.
You
know
like
how
do
we
make?
How
do
we
make
this?
G
E
Interesting,
okay,
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning
just
floating
some
ideas:
is
it
time
to
get
together
and
have
a
plan
in
the
pub
yet.
E
I
can
understand,
but
some
people
might
have
reservations
about
it.
I
mean
I,
I
always
find
you
learn
as
much
you
you
get
as
much
out
of
any
meat,
so
just
getting
face
to
face
with
people
and
having
a
bit
of
a
chat
and
a
drink.
B
E
Think
the
zoom
things
worked
out
really
well
and
I'd
like
to
keep
that
going
just
wondering
what
other
people
felt
really.