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Description
In the third meeting of the CMS-Kubernetes special interest group, we cover:
Insights from the latest KubeCon.
Presentations from Jeff Geeling and Tess Flynn at a recent Drupal event.
Tips for making Drupal and K8s play even nicer.
Plans to further our efforts during the upcoming DrupalCon Amsterdam.
Catch up with the group on GitHub: http://bit.ly/338dXC5
A
Great,
so
we're
now
recording
I'm
going
to
kick
off
another
meeting
of
the
Drupal's
I'm,
not
quite
sure
what
we're
calling
it
yet,
but
that
comes
close
agenda.
Doc
is
in
the
slack
Channel,
so
it
should
be
pretty
straightforward.
We're
gonna
start
with
some
introductions
today
on
the
agenda.
We
basically
have
a
couple
of
items:
we're
going
to
get
a
little
bit
of
insight
from
some
people
that
attended
Conte
to
see
what
they
thought
of
it.
A
How
we
can
collaborate
there
and
maybe
get
a
little
bit
more
cohesive
about
these
conversations,
will
also
give
people
a
chance
to
share
any
additional
celebrations
or
challenges
that
they're
looking
at
or
encountering,
and
that
should
be
a
fairly
decent
meeting
for
us.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
just
go
around
the
zooms
real,
quick
and
maybe
do
30
second
introduction
trying
to
keep
it
a
little
bit
short
because
we
would
like
to
get
through
some
of
this
content.
So,
let's
start
with
Michael
yep.
B
A
H
Like
other
hard
questions,
once
you've
answered
the
first
hard
questions
like
you
know,
we've
kind
of
rolled
our
own,
like
asset
population
kind
of
workflow
or
like
standing
up
projects
and
getting
them
into
persistent
storage
and
stuff
like
that,
so
I
know
that's
kind
of
a
lot
out
there,
but
primarily
I'm
kind
of
thinking.
It
would
be
great
to
maybe
see
if
there's
some
overlap
at
the
12
back
to
wrap
certain
concepts
more
broadly
with
this
group
and
what
people
are
looking
at.
There.
I
I,
when
my
name
is
Ulla
I
work
for
a
Kennedy
opcom,
we
are
working,
we
are
working
to
build
a
product
on
communities
and
we
are
building
at
a
code.
Where
do
people
can
be
deployed
in
a
single
click?
So
I
just
started
three
weeks
ago,
I'm
completely
new
to
communities
I'm
just
learning
on
the
basics.
Meanwhile,
I'm
also
exploring
different
pipelines.
Like
last
two
weeks,
I
was
working
on
rancher
and
this
week,
I'm
working
on
using
drone
as
a
pipeline.
So
most
of
my
work
is
concentrated
on
running,
doing
continuous
deployment.
J
Shawn
Stratton,
based
on
whether
I'm
a
three-year
drug
or
a
Geetha,
is
live.
My
interest
communities
and
you
know
PHP
Journal
goes
back
to
you.
Guna
is
three
years
PHP
about
13
years
now,
14
years,
so
primarily
here,
I'm
more
of
a
listening
to
bass
needs
to
kind
of
get
in
there,
something
where
we
ended.
K
A
A
D
D
One
five
year
anniversary
this
year
of
kubernetes
going
general
availability
or
one
dot.
Oh
so
I
was
cool
to
be
a
part
of
just
a
lot
of
a
lot
there
to
celebrate
and
just
seeing
just
how
far
it
has
come
and
pretty
much
now
it's
it's
the
de-facto
platform
that
people
are
either
using
right
now
or
very
large
and
small
organization
is
trying
to
move
towards
which
has
its
own
implications
that
I
won't
get
into
here,
but
the
the
couple
of
the
announcements
I
think
he
seemed
posted.
D
Some
of
them
were
in
slack
and
ourside
channel.
Some
of
them
I
think
have
gotten
quite
a
bit
of
press.
The
service
mesh
interface
was
one
of
the
big
I
know
it
announcements,
initiatives,
I,
know,
sto
questions
have
come
up
in
the
channel,
so
it
looks
like
now.
The
the
the
goal
just
like
with
like
this,
the
containers
or
Jenner
face,
is
to
standardize
around
an
API
for
a
service
provider
such
as
sto
or
pickle.
Everyone
can
provide
service
mesh
as
a
service.
D
The
cool
thing
about
this
is
that
it
will
make
it
it
will
standardize
the
service
mesh
pattern
and
API
quite
a
bit
more,
so
it
makes
it
a
lot
and
it
makes
it
a
lot
easier
and
again,
you
will
get
have
a
lot
more
flexibility
in
switching
out
service
meshes
instead
of
having
to
worry
about
STS,
API
versus
linker,
D
or
others.
So
that's
a
really
exciting
announcement
in
the
world
of
service
mesh.
D
There
is
a
it
was
really
more
of
a
challenge,
and
this
is
with
one
of
the
keynotes
on.
We
actually
need
to
come
together
as
a
community
to
solve
this
problem
in
how
do
we
tie
then?
Those
three
tracks
are
very
similar
but
they're
different
enough
that
the
implementation
and
the
technology
so
like
four.
D
B
A
D
Yeah
so
I
don't
know
where
I
got
cut
off
their
metric
unification
is
one
of
them
and
I.
Think
you're
gonna
see
a
lot
more
movement
in
what
we're
now
starting
to
call
cube
native
api's,
where
providers
and
even
third-party
services
are
directly
accessible
and
integrated
into
the
control
plane
like
custom
resource
definitions
or
using
an
API
aggregation
you're,
seeing
that
this
is
what
probably
one
of
the
more
explosive
arenas
around
we're
seeing.
D
Development
growth
so
I
actually
think
that
as
more
people
are
using
kubernetes
and
especially
for
users
who
are
getting
into
running
their
applications
and
getting
into
more
trying
to
write
operators
for
custom
logic,
integration
with
a
cube
native
API
for
another
service,
like
even
your
cloud
provider
service
from
machine
like
the
Machine
API,
the
cluster
API
and
there's
gonna,
be
a
lot
of
growth
in
this
it
just
chariots.
It's
really
exciting.
E
E
E
E
E
M
M
One
of
my
favorite
talks
was
from
senior
Google
engineer
and
he
was
talking
about
how
they
designed
controllers
and
how
they
were
approaching
the
design
of
the
kubernetes
native
controllers,
the
original
control
plane,
and
it
was
interesting
to
see
how
they
made
everything
even
more
granular.
Then
we
weren't
trying
to
accomplish
so
for
every
operation.
They
would
have
a
different
controller.
There
would
be
one
controller,
the
handle
handling
certain
part
of
the
resource,
another
controller
handling
different
part
of
the
resource,
another
controller
for
division
and
cleanup.
M
So
that
was
very
interesting
and
I
think
it
is
worth
following
that
approach
because
they
have
been
very
successful
with
with
it
and
another
track.
That
I
was
very
interested
in
attending
is
related
to
failure
stories.
I
have
kind
of
a
strange
joy
and
knowing
that
other
people
make
mistakes
as
well,
that
it's
not
only
me
who
make
mistakes,
and
it
is
a
great
learning
opportunity
and
seeing
how
they
recover,
how
they
try
to
prevent
the
mistakes
from
happening,
and
it's
always
good
to
see
how
they
tried
to
prevent
yeah.
A
A
Florian
I
think
shared
a
link
earlier
in
the
slack
channel
to
the
playlist
for
that
kubernetes
and
will
resurface
that
and
get
it
into
this
document
so
that
people
can
reference
it.
There
is
a
significant
amount
of
content
there.
There
is
a
significant
amount
of
information
there,
so
it
sounds
like
it
was
a
pretty
good
event.
A
Cool
next
up
on
the
agenda,
I
think
we're
kind
of
refocusing
on.
You
know
the
outreach
that
the
Drupal
community
is
doing
and
and
and
right
now
it
seems
like
we
just
had
an
event
fly
over
camp
where
two
presentations
were
given
that
have
gotten
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
positive
comments
that
I've
seen
I
know.
One
I
believe
was
from
tests
Flint
and
the
other
one
was
from
Jeff
Healey
unless
I'm
mistaken
tests.
A
A
L
Lot
of
the
people
who
go
to
camps
don't
even
quite
know
what
docker
is
and
that's
kind
of
par,
for
course,
for
depending
on
which
event
you
go
to
flyover
camp
is
a
new
camp.
There
are
several
people
there
which
are
very
experienced
in
terms
of
delivering
infrastructure,
but
there's
a
lot
of
other
people.
Who've
heard.
What's
this
kubernetes
saying
I,
don't
know
anything
about
it?
Let's
go
wanna
go
watch
the
session
with
the
weird
person
who's
dressed
up
as
a
Jedi
I.
A
A
I
think
it's
important
that
we're
having
these
conversations
now,
because,
as
people
do
you
learn
more
and
more
about
kubernetes.
Like
you
know,
it's
an
open
source
project,
there's
definitely
an
open
source
mindset
behind
and
the
more
that
we
can
help.
People
understand
that
more
that
we
can
help
collaborate
on
that
I
think
the
better
off
we're
all
going
to
be
there's
a
lot
of
complex
lessons
and
things
are
changing
very
rapidly
and
people
you
know
time
is
valuable.
A
Cool
and
both
of
those
links
are
actually
in
this
document
for
those
that
are
watching
the
video
it
will
be
linked
there
and
I
there.
They
both
have
full
recordings
that
have
been
posted
up
on
YouTube,
so
I
encourage
you
to
check
those
out
and
Michael.
Do
you
want
to
spend
a
few
minutes?
Maybe
talking
about
some
ideas
with
Anton?
Yes,.
B
If
we
should
do
some
it
or
not,
because
I
really
said,
I
would
love
to
have
a
committee
to
summit
where
we
as
basically
we
can
do
what
we're
doing
right
now
but
the
whole
day,
and
we
have
sessions
where
we
can
talk
where
we
can
learn
from
each
other.
Where
we
can
I
mean
I
failed
track
will
be
awesome,
the
biggest
disparity
they're
like
the
biggest
bad
things,
and
so,
but
unfortunately,
we
decided
as
a
team.
B
B
I,
don't
know
the
code,
the
future
of
covenant
case
or
whatever
like
something
more,
and
that
could
be
interesting
because
Drupal
con
is
also
about
bringing
external
people
in,
and
so,
if
you
have
ideas
of
people
that
you
know
that
all
could
come
to
him.
So
then,
please
tell
them
and
I
can
reach
out
to
them
as
the
official
team
inviting
them
to
become
apps
with
them
to
talk.
So
that's
the
first
thing
that
would
be
a
regular
session
that
might
happen
or
might
not.
It
depends
on
if
we
find
somebody.
B
The
second
session
is
for
me
something
more
like
a
panel
where
everybody
that
currently
hosts
kubernetes
gets
a
short
five
minutes
where
they
present.
What
they're
doing
so.
Are
you
running
communities
yourself
are
using
manage
kubernetes?
Are
you
using
a
community
distribution
and
how
do
you
deploy?
So
this
is
more
about
just
that.
B
Would
really
like
to
prevent
that
we
not
have
35
different
ways
how
to
run
through
palinka
benefits
and
and
this
the
third
session.
The
panel
should
really
be
about
of
people
that
are
interested
in
looking
into
kubernetes
and
tuple
that
they
hear
what
is
out
there
and
also
here.
Maybe
what
is
the
difference?
Let's
say
mean
like
us:
we
are
maintaining
Lagoon
compared
to
the
way
of
life,
okay
like
when.
How
far
are
they
how?
B
But
there
are
also
other
ways
like
there's,
maybe
I
know
Florian
uses
helm
so
will
be
interesting
for
somebody
that
uses
helm
a
lot
so
like
having
I
did
a
different
discussion
to
give
an
overview,
and
actually
the
third
topic.
The
third
session
I
would
love
that
the
information
that
we
have
there
ends
up
on
Drupal
data
work.
B
So
if
somebody
who
searches
for
kubernetes
on
Drupal,
duple
and
kubernetes
that
they
maybe
end
up
on
a
chocolate
org
site
that
shows
the
different
solutions
and
explains
the
pros
and
cons,
but
that's
future
stuff,
but
the
panel.
It's
really
about
that.
So
these
are
the
three
sessions
that
I
am
that
I
think
with
really,
and
the
overall
goal
is
really
to
bring
the
creators
community
together
at
Perkin
to
share
and
stuff
like
that
and
I
propose
that
already
to
detractors
they're,
very
interested
in
it.
B
They
feel
like
that
would
be
really
cool
because
they
definitely
want
to
have
some
about
kubernetes
in
there,
but
they
are
not
sure
like.
If,
like
somebody
like
a
sake,
comes
to
them
and
says:
hey,
we
asked
the
convenience
community.
We
make
our
own
mini
track
with
inside
the
big
track.
They
can
hand
that
over
to
us-
and
we
can
organize
it
ourselves,
and
so
they
can
say.
Okay,
there
is
the
community
stuff
happens
there,
and
but
I
I
gonna
need
to
write
a
bit
more
outline.
B
So
right
now
it's
just
like
five
lines
of
text
and
and
I
wants
to
wait
for
this
meeting
to
also
hear
what
you
think,
if
you
think
that's
a
great
idea
or
if
you
can't
know
that's
but
just
two
regular
sessions
and
also
maybe
already
here
who
is
interested
to
be
in
which
of
these
sessions,
because
if
I
go
to
the
track,
chairs
and
say,
hey
I
already
have
10
speakers
for
these
three
sessions.
They
almost
cannot
say
no,
like
it's
gonna
happen.
D
A
We
can
reach
out
to
some
of
our
reps
to
see
if
we
can
get
a
google
conversation
going
as
well.
Yeah
I
think
Tess
is
expressing
interest
as
well.
I
I
know,
I'm,
definitely
interested
in
everything
that
you
said.
I
think
that
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
maybe
underappreciated
in
the
Drupal
space
is
the
amount
of
impact
that
kubernetes
is
going
to
have
and
the
number
of
people
that
are
actively
starting
to
work
on
it.
So
I
think
having
a
good
conversation.
It
is
important
so
anything
that
you
need
from
us.
G
A
H
Kevin
I
think
my
only
disorder
observation
about
that.
That
is
that
this
is
this.
This
sub
section,
even
sort
of
just
the
competence
and
expertise
level
of
the
group
of
people
in
this
in
this
zoom
and
then
has
sig
I,
think,
speaks
toda.
Something
that's
been
happening
more
broadly
in
Drupal,
which
is
right
that
you
know
this
is
enterprise,
software
that
gets
run
by
enterprise
organizations
largely
and
I.
H
You
just
have
to
say
like
this:
is
an
expert
level
track
right
and
like
there
are
pathways
into
this
community,
but
that
would
be
my
only
concern.
Mipoulok
with
trying
to
sort
of
not
may
be
co-opted
is
a
lot
more,
the
kind
of
edge
in
a
little
minis
come
it
into
Drupal
con
Amsterdam.
There's
going
to
be
that
you
know
what
we're
doing
here
like
I
think
this
is
great,
but
it's
also
like
this
is
a
table
that
should
be
open
to
everybody,
but
also
like
the
yes.
A
Right,
but
that
also
speaks
to
the
ethos
of
wine
I.
You
at
least
me
speaking
personally
of
why
I
do
what
I
do
to
do
with
kubernetes
and
where
I'm
trying
to
do
basically
these
systems,
because
for
me
it's
not
just
an
enterprise
conversation,
it's
I
come
from
a
very
small
place.
You
know
I
learned
Drupal
and
went
to
much
larger
places
and
as
a
result
of
that
road
that
I
went
down,
I
learned
a
lot
along
the
way.
K
H
I
think
proven
any
pitches
for
the
organization
I'm
working
at
like
it's
a
force,
multiplier
like
to
be
able
to
do
more
enterprising
stuff
and
not
have
to
spend
olympos
hours.
So
I
think
we
can
communicate
that.
That's
good
I'm
with
you,
I'm
gonna,
pretend
I
just
want
to
exclude
pathways
and
if
we're
gonna
do
this
I.
D
B
That's
actually
one,
maybe
maybe
maybe,
if
I
can
jump
in
there.
I
I
still
expect
that
there
will
be
a
kubernetes
101
session
or
so,
which
will
give
somebody
that
has
heard
of
kubernetes
give
an
overview
of
what
it
is,
how
it
works,
and
then
we
can
maybe
in
that
session,
then
somebody
we
can
say
hey
if
you're
now
interested
more
there's
gonna
be
a
three
track
session
going
on,
but
that's
then
more
for,
like
high-level
and
stuff
and
I
expect
actually
that
probably
everybody
that
does
anything
with
kubernetes
has
a
bit
such
a
session.
B
B
It
also
goes
from
the
other
way
around,
like
I
had
multiple
times
that
we
talked
that
we
set
in,
for
example,
boss
around
docker,
where
three
people
were
in
that
and
have
never
heard
about
docker
10
others
20
others
use
darker
every
day
and
at
the
end
we
talked
about
what
docker
is
and
I
feel
like,
not
that
it's
bad.
These
three
people
want
to
learn,
but
it's
also,
we
didn't
had
time
to
actually
talk
about
it
too
much,
and
so
maybe
saying
look.
These
three
sessions
are
a
really
high
level
or
full
technical.
B
D
I
think,
having
being
able
to
do
both
so
that
both
groups
are
able
to
you
know
like
because
I
bet
you
know,
there's
so
many
people
lining
up
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
heck
this
is
and
I
do.
Think
that
there
is
a
good
point.
There
also
around
what
defines
a
cloud
native
application
at
just
a
a
a.
K
G
G
G
We
have
an
organization
with
a
lot
of
different
sites
and
we
really
want
to
focus
on
on
the
productivity
of
the
developers.
There's
a
lot
of
different
aspects
like
I
guess:
kubernetes
is
not
a
goal
in
itself
and
and
I
guess
it
might.
Actually,
it
might
be
easier
to
cover
that
also
in
a
kind
of
panel
format
ever
saying
hey.
D
That's
that's
a
good
point.
There
yeah,
that's
yeah
I've
got
Canada
yeah.
Thank
you
enough
for
mentioning
that
in
humanities
also
is
suffering
a
little
bit
right
now
for
being
Silver
Bullet,
that
every
CIO
and
CTO
is
doing
their
organizations
to
immediately
start
using
without
backing
up
and
asking
why
yeah.
B
Okay,
so
what
I
will
do,
then
is
I
will
write
out
a
bit
more,
these
three
sessions
myth
in
depth
what
wits
about
and
because
everybody
has
access
to
the
meeting
minutes.
If
you
are
interested
in
talking
in
these
sessions,
maybe
add
your
name
at
the
bottom
of
the
meeting
or
at
each
of
these
sessions,
and
that
would
be
great
and
so
I
have
a
bit
more.
That
I
can
go
to
the
org
to
the
trek,
chairs
and
I
will
send
that
over
to
the
tractors
and
see
what
happens.
B
A
And
you
know
I
know
we
have
easily
a
half
dozen
sessions.
At
least
half
of
them
are
touching
on
some
variants
of
kubernetes,
with
different
levels
of
complexity
as
well.
So
I
don't
know
if
the
track
chairs
need
help
reorganizing
or
recategorize
in
some
of
these
to
be
able
to
accommodate
this,
but
definitely
reach
out,
and
just
let
us
know:
okay,
but
I'd,
yeah.
A
B
Other
thing
I
had
is
what
would
be
also
really
cool,
I
hope
that
this
thing
is
happens
and
in
the
evening
that
maybe
we
do
beer
going
together.
All
the
kubernetes
people
and
I
wanted
more
to
ask
if
somebody's
interested
in
organizing
that
beside
of
me.
So
if
somebody
wants
to
organize
a
get-together
about
an
informal
and
maybe
where
we
can
share
more
war
stories,
and
that
would
be
also
cool
and
because
I
think
there's
a
big
opportunity
for
us
to
share
more
stuff
well,.
A
Let's
talk
about
meeting
document
and
if
anybody
is
interested
in
doing
that,
we
can
go
ahead
and
sign
up
there
if
anybody
doesn't
have
access
to
that.
It
was
originally
set
up
kind
of
memory,
mimicking
the
way
that
the
kubernetes
community
does
their
six.
So
there's
a
mailing
list
that
you
can
join
a
Google
group.
A
G
Because
one
of
the
well
in
it
might
be
a
bit
early
for
a
proper
celebration,
but
my
colleague
Janice
did
some
some
very
nice
work
on
on
a
first
CSI
plugin
implementation
and
I
mentioned
last
time
that
we've
been
trying
out
a
few
things
with
our
phone
and
we're
aware
this
is
not
the
necessary
the
ideal
solution
for
a
very
high
high
performance
high
traffic
site.
But
we
found
out
that
it
actually
works
out
quite
well.
G
If
you
just
want
to
get
a
sites
quickly
up
and
running,
and
the
idea
of
using
object,
storage
as
a
back-end
for
a
volume
driver,
it's
actually
work
well
for
tropone.
So
it's
not
but
physics
compliant.
But
it's
it
gives
everything
that
we
needs
for
for
tuple
files,
and
it
also
has
the
big
benefits
of
just
only
using
as
much
storage
as
you
have
files
and
never
needing
to
extend
storage
or
anything
like
that.
D
I
G
The
typical
one
that
you
would
use
would
be
s3
or
something
compatible,
but
if,
for
example,
it
also
uses
it
also
works
with
Google
Cloud
storage,
which
has
a
even
though
it
has
an
s3
compatible
compatibility
API.
It
would
actually
be
much
nicer
to
just
the
Google
storage
API
directly
and
that's
what
our
client
supports.
You
can
also
use
things
like
Dropbox
or
Google
Drive
that
don't
make
sense
in
this
context,
but
yeah
in
it.
G
H
G
So
we
actually
tried
both
approaches.
The
event.
That
is,
that
it
requires
absolutely
no
modification
to
so
far.
So
well,
you
pretty
much
well
old
files
are
uploaded
through
Drupal.
All
the
files
are
served
by
nginx,
that's
also
mounting
the
same
volume.
So
it's
you
it's
it's
pretty
much
a
drop-in
replacement.
B
F
B
H
Because
it
would
be
like
I'm
a
tree
by
the
promise
of
that,
but
like
every
time
that
I've
ever
used
like
a
file
system,
you
know
I
haven't
used
a
volume
driver
before
in
kubernetes,
but
every
time
I've
used
like
a
file
systems
or
that
light
that's
backed
by
s3
or
whatever,
because
it's
it's
still
a
name.
It's
still
an
HTTP
call
and
then
I
guess
to
Michael's
point
like
I
have
so
far
addressed
the
sort
of
local
development
piece
by
just
like
you
can
like
fly
systems
around
sort
of
those
dream.
H
G
H
D
N
D
Anymore,
m-my
name
were
run
on
that
I
actually
have
not
read
Lotus
CSI
other
I.
Think
when
I
try
to
play
with
work
ages
ago
and
I
think
it
it's
yeah
it's
it
is
doable.
Generally
speaking.
If
you
have
to
change
flags
on
any
of
the
control
planes
stuff
that
they
have
hidden
away,
that's
generally
the
only
place
I've
seen
or
you
can't
do
it
on
GK.
D
Yeah
I
think
going
hey,
we've
been
talking
about
the
object,
storage,
I
think
that's
almost
something
you
would
have
to
look
in
into
in
like
a
new
major
birth
in
a
durable
is
first-class
support
for
quadruple
using
object,
storage
and
also
maybe
looking
at
getting
away
from
just
classic
my
sequel
and
looking
into
maybe
even
support
for
the
new.
What
I
thought,
what
they're
referring.
D
H
H
Would
I
mean
it's
not
a
common
pattern,
but
I
would
maybe
challenge
it.
There
isn't
like
support
for
like
doing
the
object,
storage
thing
and
Drupal
I
mean
they
can
always
probably
get
better,
but
like
extreme
rappers
east
of
that
I
think
this
is
good.
There
is
a
if
this
group
and
I
suppose
this
sort
of
speaks
that
just
like
twelve
acrobats
or
other
beginning
like
if
this
group
has
interest
it
like
those
kinds
of
things,
especially
like
ahead
of
triple
nine.
There
is
a
ticket.
H
This
fountain,
like
no
lot
of
in
the
core
you
for
dropping
the
assumption
and
for
the
requirements
were
the
public
like
local
straight
average
and
core
and
I,
don't
think
it
would
be
particularly
difficult
to
do.
You
can
do
it
in
practice.
It's
just
like
you
can't
install
Drupal
that
way,
but
I
don't
think.
There's
too
many
places
that
would
require
that.
So
that
would
be
a
thing
that
you
know
like
for
a
Drupal,
9
kind
of
cold
war.
I
think
that
would
be
told
with
dual.
D
Yeah
definitely
I
do
confess.
I
haven't
personally
hooked
around
the
core
PHP
base.
There
yeah
definitely
to
learn
a
lot
more
with
that
it
it
was
making
it
an
option
and
I
think
maybe
is
adoption.
Those
you
know
more
and
more
Drupal
sites
are
running
on
kubernetes.
You
may
eventually
just
become
a
standard.
H
I
heard
my
systems
I
mean
the
core
of
it.
Is
that
League
of
Extraordinary
packages,
package,
I
think
or
at
least
there's
some
of
them
or
like
the
I,
think
there's
some
overlap
there.
I
can't
remember,
but
I
mean
the
upstream
of
that
is
pretty
good,
like
the
core,
like
the
module,
was
actually
just
a
pretty
dumb
wrapper
around
like
the
upstream
slices
done,
which
is
got
a
lot
more
usage
than
just
through
poll.
G
A
Great
well
I
do
want
to
be
respectful
of
everybody's
time.
Please,
if
you
can
spend
a
few
minutes
looking
over
the
the
meeting
notes
from
this
meeting,
if
there's
anything
that
you'd
like
to
add
or
anything
that
you'd
like
to
contribute
to
the
Amsterdam
conversation,
please
do
so
in
that
document
again,
if
you
don't
have
access
to
it,
just
ping
me
and
let
me
know,
and
unless
there's
anything
else,
I
think
we
can
go
ahead
and
wrap
up
last
call
okay!
Well,
thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
we'll
see
you
next
time.
Thanks.