DFFML Rolling Alice: Engineering Logs: Volume 0: Architecting Alice, 24 Sep 2022

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https://github.com/intel/dffml/discussions/1406#discussioncomment-3723160

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We found we, we found the how to use the chain guard images thing um and so we're gonna start copy pasting. This one does so time to Breathe Right. um We just we. We.

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Know that they.

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Did a good job, so we don't need to read anything at this point. So um all right, let's go see here so uh context, okay, so this is going to be problematic immediately uh way: whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay, they added a multi-line. They added this this here doc stuff. Is it here, doc, I believe whatever it's called. This has been sorely missing from Docker for a long time. So that's probably what this is all about.

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um So let's just do podman build. uh Let's give it a blank context: let's pass it in the docker file.

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um Actually, okay, so.

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Hot man build Dash, t c destroys.

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To oh so actually, this Docker file is local on my host and so we're copying it over and building on the remote host. Okay, so you didn't like the hear doc um so so uh I'm gonna, say podman doesn't support that. um So what what maybe we can plug in.

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Hot man, pod man, secure dog.

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Clubman, okay,.

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All right, syntax, Docker file, 1.4 pod man, foreign.

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This looks like a relatively recent issue: yeah.

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Let's just go: look at the podman issues, eof.

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Remote logs eof now well, that's because we have EOS.

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Let's try looking for his syntax.

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I'm not seeing anything so.

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ah This is March I, don't know this looks, seems or the marched me. um Let's. Maybe we read we'll find out. um No, no, not that I actually read, but it doesn't look like it contains it. So.

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And this would be really cool, huh okay, so, uh but that doesn't matter is we are resourceful and we can figure it out ourselves so, um and we can do that by writing the new lines explicitly.

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All right, some C call it a day: okay, okay,.

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Let's try it again.

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Kate didn't like that either I didn't need the EOS.

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Okay, didn't like that either.

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Interactive authentication required permission denied.

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All right so there's probably something rootless that we need to do.

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uh Okay, I have no interest in that: okay, um hello, C, okay! So let's put this at the slash hello: let's try it again, foreign.

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Actually, you know podman doesn't work like that. If you're running Docker it runs the Daemon, um it's probably going to run a demon.

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I think it does sometimes I think it's sometimes for entertainment. Okay, look at that! Okay! So let's check it out. So let's run that container.

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Okay, so pod man.

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Distro this this is, did they really call it just realized just for this.

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And unfortunately, I can put this suit up because I don't know what's going to happen next.

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Okay, so we don't have to go.

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How do we tell it that it's a local thing.

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Secret manager.

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Let's just try this we're at localhost.

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Okay, so let's run with localhost.

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Thank you for sake. Okay, oh my God.

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It's a hard problem to solve it's just: okay, um wonderful Okay! So.

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So they say something about Wolfie bass, okay, so extending compile dependencies from Source use multi-stage builds right. So that's what we're gonna do: um use the APK tools to install them.

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Okay, what's this okay, so basically they they suggest doing this. Why.

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Okay, because they have.

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It involves PHP.

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Is this a demo.

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Okay, so, basically to demonstrate melange's features: minimalist application, we're going to create a PHP app. Okay, okay, I, see.

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Go through this sentence.

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Okay, so what does this look like? Okay? So we have run time. We have A specific group. Let's call that.

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Are they just going to dip the file system for us? Is that what's going to happen here, what's happening?

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What does this do if only we could read um declarative pipelines to create APK packages from single yaml file, you're, going to share multiple options directly into okay.

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That they see this is exactly what they were doing. They were trying to make it reproducible okay, so they were looking for reproducible builds here and so by wrapping it in whatever they've got here. That makes it reproducible somehow um so.

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Good for them good job, you, you all have done amazing work, machine guard, Unchained, that's hilarious,.

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I don't know if it's going to be relevant to us right now. I think this will be relevant for the SSI service Okay. So, um let's put that under here.

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All right, because we're going to need to package that.

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Where's, the other videos. Oh, that's, look there's this one.

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Which will look at that? Let me get to the other videos.

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I'm going to show all the purpose: okay, whatever um look at this, oh.

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Why is this here if I click on PDF I think I click on video, wonderful, wonderful, PDF, okay, um using Wolfie base image within Docker files.

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Okay, so using more information right, so I think I think that uh basically, so what we've been told here is that this is ideal right, so this is going to be our ideal in state, but for now what we're going to do is.

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Use Madeleine.

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And apko and set up for factory setup container Factory.

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Yeah I really like.

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I, don't I just for some reason: I don't drive with this connection to the physical world with the factory analogy, I mean I, think it's a good analogy, but I guess maybe I'm just looking for something more Fantastical. So we can invent sensor.

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Come up with something more Whimsical than that, um what could it be called.

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Okay, um great.

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Okay, so I think this is what we really want.

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And then this sort of greatly supplies everything right, because we can treat it like a regular disco. Bistro, that's been kept up to date.

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Right: okay: this is good stuff. uh Okay, so.

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We don't need that anymore, okay. So what would we like? Well, it looks like we basically have APK. So what how would we APK search? This is wonderful. It's wonderful.

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Okay, let's go mess with this.

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Let's put some.

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So that's interesting: they execute a login shell.

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I wonder: what's the significance about.

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So I don't think it's gonna like that um doesn't seem to like being run without root.

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It doesn't, it doesn't seem to like being run at all.

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All right, God, okay, foreign.

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Didn't seem to pick up when we did, maybe if we do, it does for a bit longer.

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No I did not like that. Okay! um Oh that's because this should say entry point Dash.

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All right, let's try building this again.

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It doesn't exist.

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Okay, give us a shout, give us a shout.

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Oh I forgot password, show.

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Here's your shell foreign.

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So, let's take a look: what the hell is this? Okay? So no don't do that. What do we got.

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Here we're gonna be binary.

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Okay so at this point, uh APK search, Linux, Linux.

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That was fast, oh.

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I, like that, um all right, okay, um so they have the headers, but they don't have the Linux kernel itself. So that's interesting! um So.

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So they have the headers, but they don't have the kernel themselves. So uh it didn't really shouldn't matter what stuff we put in there. um So.

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I think we can basically just do okay. Do they have systemd another product?

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Okay, so now we know we need to get system D from Fedora and we need to get whatever else to help we need from chain guard. um So, um let's see.

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Let's see if we can just go ahead.

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Okay, I'm not really sure where the binding could build too. uh It was funny I'm using that first CI round two three five: if that's the right path.

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Okay, let's assuming that's what's going on.

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Okay, so yeah no more Windows God.

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Where's, the assistant.

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Okay, so we went to the latest setup, go okay! So let's go.

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Let's just see if we can go build this thing, real, quick.

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So I'm curious holy holy look at that.

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Don't sacrifice a version, one directory.

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So let's go look at your mod.

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So this is the version of the Mage they're using foreign.

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Oh, my God, you can just spin up VMS and things work.

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It's really making me reevaluate whether I even want to actually install this okay, um foreign.

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Well, uh well, um yes, but major is not found. So if you really install an image, it doesn't look to me like the installment at all. It looks like you very much did not do that.

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Okay, so we just need to.

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Okay, so we just need to add this to the path.

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Okay, let's move down so far; okay,.

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All right come on, I could just say mage build by now.

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Okay, let's do some shots I like that.

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Okay, so now what.

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Let's go find binaries.

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Where's, the binary.

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ah Whatever I'm building him.

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S, the library.

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Let's just do this we'll just do this.

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Spent a lot of time doing really.

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Boom We Built it okay. um This is great, so this is fantastic, because this one is very, very easy for us to um automate here. So as.

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They have one for go, I think they did.

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It looks like the default example. They provided.

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Okay, so let's just try to go.

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I think we can add an archive directly.

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So we should be able to just say, although I'm not sure, if.

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Okay and then we usually need to build with.

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Now it's static! What no now it's Dynamic for Linked! What the are you doing anything to.

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Why are you dynamically.

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What happened to tags makeup.

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If you've been utils now.

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Where are your toes.

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What is that? What is l.

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Okay, so let's do let's just check out.

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Okay, so YouTube is really annoying Trump crew attempt ending. Is it a little early for that.

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I think it's a little early even on the East Coast biggest folks found out.

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I think I bet we can take this I'll be back. Do you like that.

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All this work, oh look.

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Now it didn't work yeah, the Twitter took the link but interesting conceptually.

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I, just don't understand why this is so complicated. I'm, probably just doing it wrong and by this I mean like everything.

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Look, oh, we can just look, we can just click there.

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Look. We did find the easier way.

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Is this is oh, look it's like looking in a mirror. Okay,.

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Great, oh, why did we need that for this? Okay, yeah, not I'm, not ready to call for help yet, but I want to be ready to be ready? Okay, um so it doesn't really matter I'm, just uh I, don't know why it's not I'm, really, okay, we we we, we we we, we will just not care about it and assume that we're going to end up in a happy place. Okay,.

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Service: okay, um oh and we need to look up the docker file. Add.

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Okay, we decided back in 2014 that the ad instructions should be.

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Remote resources are not decompressed, okay, so can we use a non-compressed archive? Do they offer us non-compressed artifacts.

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Have plenty of targeted so okay? Well, that's fine!.

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But okay, this has been good. Just got off: okay, foreign.

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Service, yes, I, know, I, know, I'm, aware that there's no shout validation um and.

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Okay- let's just do this actually, all.

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Okay, Pearl, okay and keys. Don't work.

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Okay, SSI service main.

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So we're just going to take that, let's say great.

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Okay, um fantastic, okay! So then, we'll just uh after we're done with that.

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All right, so we um download the content so download, download and build the self solved brand.

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Identity service, okay, we'll let them know what we're doing just because I think it's a reasonable time to tell other people that you're awake now. um Okay,.

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Download and build self server and identity service.

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What happened at the build? There's the building, okay, download.

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Okay, I'll be from okay, so we'll just do this one as SSI service Builder or, let's see, maybe we should do.

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Let's grab this right: let's throw where it should probably go user thing: let's try plugging this again. Okay,.

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Let's do a quick dump here.

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Up to date, do.

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Okay, we're gonna: ask the shell we're going to build again.

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Configure the OS.

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So what do we call this we'll call this.

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Dc trellis notices and shots. Oh, it's decentralized. I was looking I've been looking for things. That sounds like Latin lately.

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So um basically.

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I always do some trial space, image.com, okay, fantastic.

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And let's put a link just in case anybody gets confused.

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The issue Okay so.

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So we should end up with a built image after this.

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Let's try this again.

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All right, like that.

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Will you build the SSI service and then the question will be? Can we execute it from the base image and then the question is: what do we have to do on Fedora to get a.

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I, don't like that something like that Okay! So, oh, we probably need a CD.

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So we have the cdsi service main because it names it based on the branch around the container, build all right, so dnf pseudo, dnf search.

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X actually I think our script over here might tell us. Where do that.

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Okay- and you know, I'm realizing now that this patch, after having built this now I, think we know that this patch needs mage, build.

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Each build doesn't necessarily build the file, though.

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So, oh good, look, oh God.

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There's a few packages related to Linux a few.

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um There there's the ones that we care about with Linux towards the front. No, no they're, not.

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That's the next policies systems, Linux Linux user, CH root.

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So that's just our users because remember we just care about the kernel kernel, module man, I'm management utilities. So that's going to be important.

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Kernel kernel, kernel, kernel, kernel, that's what we care about and system B.

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We want system, D, I know it's been a long road.

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Okay, fantastic, so uh Linux kernel versus Linux kernel core. Let's probably do the next column.

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Okay, so what we can also do packages.org. This is a great one. So, let's put this in here- let's say internal.

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We can say kernel and then it should tell us where we can get a.

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Kernel Okay, so the Dora kernel kernel kernel core all right, so the question is: what's the difference probably size so.

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Let's just rip on, or is this a Patcher to show an ad.

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Oh, it is not true.

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So this contains fan legs.

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So what the hell is in the other package.

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Requires the next four system: the okay provides okay, so this is not okay, so we have to get. We have to be careful. um We have to be careful because.

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It's no! This is what we want.

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What is this to you also.

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Acquires quarries I mean we're gonna see how this guy is right. So.

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So I think what we'll end up doing yeah this is extensive, so so it requires Linux firmware. So that's good! We want the firmware. We don't want core utils I can't remember which rocket is.

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Right, yeah: no, we don't need core utils, Echo, Ln RM, now a loose truck I think that's. What is this? This is like yeah and it ran FS. Okay, we do need this okay, so we don't want core utils.

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So perhaps we should just go ahead and do provide keymod.

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Okay, all right: well, we will. We will figure this out. So okay looks we got. We got a successful, build okay, so great. um So let's try to run that. Let's just see if we can confirm that we can run that um SSI service there. So, let's sign through this Okay, so.

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Memory address for nil, pointer, derference, that's not entirely promising, um but rather than that looks good um yeah. hmm So it's seg faulting.

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The fact that it's seg faulting is concerning.

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Okay- and you know we can look for whatever the hell is it LLB LBD.

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Where can I find this.

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Where's Alpine.

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Okay, yeah, they don't have.

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Wow wow I would never have guessed that, um but thank you.

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So it's posix, libsy utils, is where uh it's. This LBD comes from. So let's just check out um user fan. What's the size service and see what's up I'm suspecting, okay, well, I was suspecting it. It was missing a library there, but um I don't know. Maybe it's just unhappy.

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It seemed to be happy when we ran it before, which is a little bit concerning to me.

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When we ran it from the GoLine container,.

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But I think it had a config file, perhaps or something um what was it.

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Right yeah see it looked pretty happy here.

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Service initializing: well, it's exempt there too.

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Although once again, I'll never leave World office, so let's just see if it works.

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Counting, okay, so I have to go and update this now.

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Now that we know oh, it's dude.

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On age, build foreign.

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Okay, so now we can go back to the repo the device.

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All right so now we appreciate this should do it, okay, um great so I'm, just going to close out of the SSI or well wait. We wanted to see there were any sort of instructions.

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I was like, please do not link to the generic this one links to Tamil, unlike people, always want to link to the the website, but please, like okay,.

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Oh yeah see it's looking for config imitators config at.

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All right, okay, so that looks good, that's more what we want to see, so maybe we should um maybe we should copy this over as well, and so, where does.

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Sun service, good food storage,.

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Services, where does the SSI service config? So let's see.

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I just want to know where the default path comes from.

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All right, so we can find this default path. We can override it because remember we're making a distro so we're not really making a distro we're, making we're rolling like specific things, very specific things here, just a sec that that's sort of the point right.

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um So it's like we're we're rolling purpose-built, distros on demand or purpose-built Os images on demand. That's that's our call. Remember fulfillment fulfillment as a service Okay, so load, config. Okay, um that's hard-coded!.

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Kid may not be hard coded in Maine, oh no, it is okay. So um that's the thing.

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Am I missing something foreign.

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Looks like it's a tracing config, so it looks like reconfig.

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Okay, so it looks like config is just always in unpack.

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Okay, so we'll just make a note so.

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I will go ahead and paste in what we have so far here, post some fall on the thread.

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Okay, so, and then we need opens Okay so uh okay, so let's just go ahead. I think this is gonna, be I, think I'm excited, but this is hopefully I mean. Hopefully I don't get I just sometimes.

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Like this, oh did we get people. No, it's just me it's for me. Oh, what's this dude? No, it's also just.

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And it's me again all right: okay, well, okay, so tutorial feedback.

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Classes, adventures and under them.

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Okay, so this is how we make a new discussion with red, that's associated with the tutorial, all right, so tutorial feedback all right. So let me copy this. This is just the format right itself. Wonderland centralis.

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Right and then so from here, then we cross link right. So this is uh volume Five once again we're jumping around now. Let's do this Ventures Wonderland.

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And I guess right now this is number one.

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Let's do some trellis okay.

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All right so we'll say it's in progress here. Right I mean so this is where this is like. You know, this is all in flux process wise right, um but uh you know okay, but we got to figure it out at some point right. So so then we can say so then we can copy paste. This right and we'll see.

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Okay context: uh John can't handle being on Windows anymore, because the blue screen's constantly context. Okay, wait. No, we do need that name. I mean.

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Okay, so this is the context here, unfortunately,.

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Okay, so uh there is all has issues and we really need the real life.

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uh Chain guard I released uh Wolfie, but it has no kernel. We.

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Okay, so maybe let's say we're here: okay, so the context is um we need a base of operations for uh from a um rates of operations from which.

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All right, so we need a base of operations from which to build out uh which to build on as we deploy uh Alice in various context.

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Okay so actions we're going to write an operating system, we're going to well we're going to right or we're going to row.

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Okay- let's just do this.

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Okay and then we'll put TPM work under future.

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So this is like Mario Kart. If I, if I go this way, then the left area will work better, uh apparently so I know I, guess I caught myself doing that.

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uh Let's see what we can do about TCM supports here, Boot and then I need that thread from we need that thread. Okay, so.

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Cool a working, a a Linux, a distro uh goals. um We want to build end up with something that can be used at a daily driver.

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Okay, so the other thing is that um let me just make an open it's real, quick while I'm thinking about this. So.

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So uh updates for fedora packages- AKA, oh I- will need to be built: okay, okay, so and yeah. So basically, this means so we're building all this stuff with the images or with these container images. Right now,.

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Foreign Okay so.

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Updates for Fedora packages, AKA kernel will need to be handled instead of his file, handle.

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I feel like there's another link that was supposed to go in here.

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Yes, okay and then.

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I think we decided that we wanted to actually respond to ptgs.

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We have the Linux kernel, we have systemd and then we have.

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Okay so foreign.

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Okay, what does this draw cut through again.

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Oh, we knew it ran out, that's generated for you, dab, okay,.

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Would mean I have very many devices that work on this system, but um you know it's fun, so if we can make it boot, I will be happy. Okay, um yeah I mean if we can get it. Gooey I'll be really happy Okay. So.

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Yeah Wolfie probably doesn't provide it if you're gooey.

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Well, we're going to find out we're going to find out damn it. You know what we're just gonna find out.

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Archlikes are fantastic installation guy, so we're basically going to piggyback off this.

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uh Yeah yeah they kept doing blue screens uh on on network access on two large.

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Okay, so basically, yes,.

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So what's next, okay, so let's go grab I! Think at this point we should grab.

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um We should grab a kernel from fedora um and I think we have a kernel from fedora actually because we're running on a fedora system. Remember so.

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This one's obviously remote is the container okay. So and then we don't need this.

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That, okay, do we have any other things here, I think that is pretty much all we need out of this okay, um oh, we were gonna note. That was the whole point.

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This is that we were going to note that they can take a static so.

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For actually no well, this should go in the discussion thread. That's why I made the discussions right. So now we can just put here.

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We could say: okay.

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Support yeah: let's see.

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uh Variable which points SSI the self brand service at big, big.

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Config and what does the config look like.

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Way to do this is for systemd to create the socket and then the API host field gets populated by the system. D socket that gets created, I believe and then you can I think you can do this in a user system d as well.

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Yeah, okay, so I think we can basically do systemd socket for the API host and debug host, we'll probably take out the debug password so and then we'll let it be managed by systemd and then we can have. We can have the skeleton right, so we can add to the skeleton um so.

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um I, do uh we we probably want to add to Etsy skill, sound system, D files which manage slash setup, the socket for the API host and then uh file.

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Or something else.

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And maybe maybe it can take of what um I kind of doubt that right, like I I, doubt it I, don't know it looks like it's just reading and.

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Okay, I think we're good right now on this okay, so.

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Our next step, colonel okay, so then.

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Next Step curl, okay. So where do we get.

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Okay, oh I was building the kernel in this case. Okay, it's a slightly different use case. Okay, so.

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Okay, so now, let's pull from fedora.

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Now we can do registry.throwerproject.org.

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Okay, that would be.

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Funnel and we did refills to create bootable system.

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So l0 yeah, so so this is actually really helpful holy. This is very helpful between Enlighten, the bmcs, oh God yeah. So.

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The reason we're here is not to fall down this Rabbit Hole. The reason we're here is to call l0 the guess, we're installing the two with.

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Computable system now zero said.

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Okay, I'm- maybe maybe that's gonna, probably overly confuse. What's what I'm saying here so, let's or I'll just say, kernel.

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All right, so that way, you know this would be swapped out with a okay, so where's that Dora or uh Dora Dora, okay, so run dnf.

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Okay, so we should be able to see a snapshot of this image and see what got installed.

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So because Docker stays or the way that.

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Is that dnf run command not being run.

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Did you not read the docker file I just sent you.

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Oh because we don't use it ah I'm wrong foreign.

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Okay uh can dnf list.

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The files of a package.

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I might go outside.

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I think it might be time to go outside I get frustrated, so I'd like to come back I'd like this to actually get done instead of getting too burned up to the point where I'm frustrated so um because I'm really sick of I'm really sick of not having analytics install I. Do there is a Linux install on this machine, um but let's just not go into details with what's wrong with it, unless we get more complicated. So if I should say.

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All right, okay, now tell me about the Linux kernel or coming back kernel kernel core, actually.

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Oh, that is what we want right there. That is exactly what we want, okay, which is exactly what we want. um Okay,.

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So these are all our kernel modules, so this is going to be all the stuff that the hardware actually needs to run.

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And this is what Alpine or what uh Wolfie doesn't care about, because this is all Hardware. Specific writing containers are that they don't care about Hardware um they're, just like. Please provide me with user space um that understands okay, so this is fantastic news, so I really love that I like that. um But how can we use? That is the question so.

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Okay, I like it, but what to do with that information right so.

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Let's try some okay and then I was supposed to go outside. Okay, so repo query kernel core right, so uh the or files file list. Okay,.

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Basically, going to give us I think it's pretty much what we need, um I, don't even think I, don't even think we need the init Ram Fest. Quite honestly, I think we can jump straight from EFI uh nowadays.

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um So that's good, so I think this might be all we care about. So in that case we need to make sure why don't we just do this? This is not this I mean this is because this is not that bad all right so far as things go so um I think we mostly care about.

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um You know what? Let's just do it like: okay, I'm gonna, try I'm gonna it up. If I don't do it and we're gonna end up with something else for me: okay, so we'll just do the anime boy so t to the kernel core file list and then.

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So let's do scd-e.

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Okay, so there we go so these are a bunch of move, commands Okay. So.

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And the listing do and the.

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Oh, my God we've racked up like 30 cents.

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This is just getting too expensive.

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All right, that's what we want cool, so this is a little fast right. That's going to go through and.

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We're just going to move all those files right, so here they go um and we'll remove the echo where's, the dash B okay and then what are we going to do with them as soon as we're done? Moving.

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um Let's see so.

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We need to make a directory for them and create your.

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Kernel core we'll call it and.

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So it's kind of horror and we'll put them in build slash. Concourse all right sounds sounds reasonable to me, okay, so then what we'll do is we will copy from field kernel core and I hope that overlays, but we're going to find out it doesn't really matter because it is a container anyways. So it's scratch face. So, let's just see if it works, we'll pull down. Fedora.

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We're done with the kernel, we ask it where's all your stuff and then we put it in the new place. Okay. So then, after that, I think our next step is dump this thing and run qmu on it, so just to confirm that everything works.

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Oh, we forgot about systemd we're gonna want system date, but we're not going to want system D with qamu at this point, because there's a bug in the fsync- and you can't log in at least if you're, using the uh 9p, which is what we're going to use so as long as it's still built in by default, which is it I'm not sure if it is I, think it is I, think the door builds it in. No, no I think that's. Why I think? That's why all these scripts are around for it.

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Okay, so all of that, so maybe we could actually capture all of that.

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Downloading packages.

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Okay, so we were only getting the main package.

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Foreign, so let's add this dash dash to pens see if we get a different list of files. Okay,.

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Okay, so it depends what conflicts that requires. What requires.

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I want to know all of the things that are about to get installed.

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Right, because this is way more things we want to know all of these things, Google.

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Let's do this again so, let's say.

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Goes on these and there's four loops.

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All right, I think I'm gonna take a break. Let's run foreign.