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A
Awesome
thanks
for
joining
us
today,
and
so
today
we
will
talk
about
desktop
I.
Keep
repeating
that
that
this
year
is
truly
amazing
for
dotnet
desktop.
Would
you
agree?
Definitely
there's
so
many
things
happening
in
this
area
and,
for
example,
if
you
were
a
desktop
developer
in
the
past,
you
had
to
choose
between
bin
forms
WPF
or
you
WP,
and
you
had
to
stick
within
the
boundaries
that
those
frameworks
have
to
offer
for
your
application.
But
if
you
think
about
it,
bin
forums,
WPF
uwp,
those
are
not
actually
platforms
right
for
your
application.
A
The
platform
is
Windows
itself,
and
why
would
you
have
to
limit
yourself
to
only
what
Vin
forms
or
WPF
has
to
offer
so
where
we
want
to
move
as
a
Microsoft?
They
want
to
enable
every
desktop
application
to
be
able
to
use
any
feature
from
Windows.
So
with
whether
you're
developing
bin
forms
or
WP
up
or
you
bb.
You
should
be
able
to
have
X
easy
access
to
any
platform,
API
strain
your
desktop
api's
and
even
more,
if
you're,
targeting
Windows
10
version
that
supports
sam'l.
That
is.
Do
you
remember
the
number?
A
It's
not
1903
1903.
Yes,
that's
the
first
version
that
support
fully
supports
zamo.
If
you
target
in
that
version,
you
should
be
able
to
use
any
controls
in
your
application
from
other
frameworks
as
well.
So,
for
example,
I
have
a
VIN
firms
app
and
I.
Really
like
that
UW
control
say
what
is
your
favorite
to
the
work,
because
the.
A
B
Let's
switch
over
to
my
computer
here
because
I
want
to
show
a
blog
post,
then
one
of
my
colleagues
Miguel
Ramos
and
the
way
I
stated
this
is
to
lay
out
the
the
journey
that
were
taking
to
the
v1
sort
of
the
final
version
of
the
first
release
of
zamel
islands.
As
Emily
Islands
has
been
a
long
journey,
we've
been
working
in
Afrikaans
quite
some
time
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
questions
and
Yael
has
really
been
trying
to
go
ahead
and
get
those
answers
out
there.
B
So
this
is
a
blog
post
that
we
will
make
sure
it's
easily
discoverable.
If
you
search
for
Zemel
islands,
v1
you'll
find
it
as
well
on
the
windows.
Blog
and
I
just
want
to
highlight
a
couple
of
things
from
the
blog
and,
if
there's
so
much
in
this
blog
post,
it's
a
very
rich
post,
so
I
suggest.
If
Samuel
islands
are
important
to
you,
go
read
it
in
detail,
but
I
just
want
to
give
you
some
highlights
to
kind
of
pay
attention
to.
B
So
in
the
blog
here,
we've
got
one
very
important
statement
that
zamel
Islands
is
for
three
kind
of
developers.
It's
for
those
building,
an
application
using
native
C++
WPF
for
Windows
forms.
These
are
the
three
type
of
developers
that
might
want
to
put
an
island
in
their
application,
as
the
terminology
calls
for
it.
That
enables
you
to
use
controls
coming
over
from
uwp
and
sorry.
A
B
A
B
B
A
B
This
blog
post
is
trying
to
say
we
are
on
that
journey.
We
do
appreciate
all
those
aspects
of
it
and
we
also
want
to
say
that
we
want
to
be
clear
where
which
kind
of
applications
this
works
for
so
I
will
call
out
sort
of
what
you
need
to
get
started
with
demo
Islands,
because
I've
seen
a
bunch
of
folks
have
trouble
getting
started
because
they
don't
realize
of
the
limitations
of
you
know,
which
versions
are
needed,
which
I.
B
A
B
Is
this
notion
of
package
and
unpackaged
in
Windows
if
you're
not
familiar
with
that
notion,
don't
feel
bad
trust
me
it's
a
lot
of
complicated
stuff
to
go
through
use
this
blog
post
to
get
you
started,
but
if
you
know
what
I'm
talking
about
then
understand
the
Windows
application
packaging
project
has
to
be
used
with
your
existing
desktop
app
to
make
sure
all
the
features
work.
There's
just
some
things
that
rely
on
some
of
them.
They
get
put
in
there
right.
A
B
There,
it
is
the
blog
post,
calls
this
out
right
here.
It's
a
big
blog
post.
It's
a
great
question.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
out.
We
are.
We
are
trying
to
make
sure
this
information
is
clearly
out
there,
but
please
keep
keep
your
questions
coming.
So
what
else
do
you
need
to
know?
You
need
to
use
be
using
Visual,
Studio
2019.
The
one
thing
I
will
call
out
about
this
blog.
B
Is
that
it's
pointing
out
to
the
fact
that
my
team
I'm
the
visual
studio
team
for
this
part
of
this
kind
of
story,
we're
still
not
done
with
our
work,
but
we
are
trying
to
get
this
work
completed
later
this
year
and
get
sort
of
the
best
we
can
workflow
for
version
1.0
of
zamel
islands
and
there's
certainly
ambitions
to
go
well
beyond
one
point:
nose
capabilities,
but
this
will
be
the
beginning,
so
this
blog
post
is
full
of
meat.
It
covers
you
know
what
versions
of.net
Corvis
is
done.
The
framework.
Can
you
target
it.
B
Talks
about.
You
know
the
the
various
kind
of
applications
you
can
have
in
there.
It
talks
about
C++
applications,
dotnet
applications,
things
like
you,
know
modern
web
views
where
the
samples
everything
is
in
this
one
post
so
definitely
go
check
it
out.
This
is
your
one-stop-shop
for
zoom
lens
and
do.
B
Others
you
have
to
kind
of
self
host
there
there's
there
is
the
option
to
basically
use
any
control,
that's
in
the
Windows
platform,
but
again
go
look
at
the
blog
there's
a
lot
of
details,
even
when
I
speak
about
it,
when
I
don't
think
for
every
detail,
sometimes
I
still
get
confused
and
we
acknowledge
this
confusion
sucks
because
the
platform
should
be
more
flexible.
This
is
a
complex
story.
We're
really
doing
your
best.
We
acknowledge
all
the
issues
and
please
keep
us
honest,
keep
the
feedback
coming.
Yeah.
A
So
I
have
a
very
simple,
app
and
first
thing
that
I
did
I
went
and
added
nougat
package.
This
is
the
nougat
package
that
allows
me
to
use
zamel
Islands.
It's
called
Microsoft
toolkit
forums,
UI
controls
so
I.
What
I'm
gonna
do
I'm
gonna
add
to
my
vin
firms,
app
an
ability
to
sign
to
get
the
signature
from
a
user
and
for
that
I'm
gonna
use
an
ink
canvas,
uwp
control
and
that
I
was
like
it.
A
That
is
a
wrapped
control,
so
it's
available
in
the
package
Microsoft
toolkit
for
mci
controls,
but
if
it
wasn't
I
would
look
for
a.
Let
me
search
and
show
you
what
we
have
here,
my
if
I
search
for
Microsoft
toolkit
forums,
I
get
everything
for
vin
forms
and
there
is
a
web
view
control.
In
a
separate
package.
There
is
UI
controls.
Those
are
wrapped
controls
for
your
vin
firms,
application
and
for
all
other
uwp
controls.
You
can
use
UI
sam'l
host
package
and
then
you
kind
of
host
the
control
in
Europe.
A
Exactly
the
same
packages
are
available
for
a
WPA
search
so
same
just
instead
of
forums
WPF
and
then
you
I,
then,
will
host
your
controls
and
so
on.
So
I
added
this
package
and
then
next
thing
that
I
did
I
added
the
limitation
on
the
max
would
mean
tested
version
right.
So
the
way
I
did
it.
I
added
app
manifest
to
my
application,
I
scrolled
down
to
Windows
10.
This
line
was
commented,
so
I
command
uncomment.
This
line
and
I
added
this
line.
A
So
that's
all
you
need
to
do
to
add
to
your
application
to
make
it
work.
If
you
don't
do
that,
once
you
try
to
run
your
application
gets
to
the
code
related
to
sam'l
islands,
it
will
throw
exception.
Ask
me
how
I
know
that
I
keep
I,
keep
forgetting
that
all
the
time
and
then
I
I
go
ahead
and
all
right.
So
then,
let's
take
a
look
at
the
designer
code,
even
though
we
are
not
supposed
to
do
that
for
vim
forms,
but
this
is
the
how
I
use
the
control.
A
So
it's
a
scene
like
any
other
vin
forms,
control,
I,
created,
I,
assign
location,
name,
size,
tub
index.
Add
it
to
my
form
here,
added
to
my
form
and
then
let's
take
a
look,
how
it
works,
and
this
is
my
dot
net
core
application
by
the
way,
not
the
framework,
but
it
works
for
framework
as
well.
Experience
is
the
same.
Okay,
so
now
base
control.
It's
in
canvas.
It's
you
WP
control
inside
my
vim
forms
application.
B
Very
awesome,
yeah
yeah
I
mean
that's,
that's
the
power
taking
down
the
platform
I
mean.
Certainly
there
is
the
one
limitation
that
the
users
have
to
be
on
the
right
version
of
Windows,
and
you
know
we're
definitely
want
to
hear
your
feedback
if
it's
blocking
scenarios
for
you,
but
we
hope
that
at
least
this
gets
you
going
we're
exploring
the
technology
and
we
were
listening
to
people's
feedback
on
how
it's
gonna
make
their
applications
better
or
if
their
blogs.
For
any
reason,
please
do
keep
us
honest.
B
They
also
were
a
couple
of
questions
in
the
chat.
So
there's
one
question
around
sam'l
standard
we're
just
not
going
to
talk
about
it
today.
Again,
we
just
don't
have
anybody
that
can
represent
that
topic.
Well,
so
sorry
feel
free
to
DM
mean
specific
questions.
Find
me
on
Twitter.
I
will
definitely
try
to
get
back
to
you.
There's
also
a
question
around
wrapping
your
Windows
10
installer,
for
you
know
making
it
available
to
Windows
7
users
of
these.
That's
how
I'm
seeing
the
question.
B
So
if
you're
talking
about
MSI
X,
the
team,
as
far
as
I
know,
is
working
in
Windows
7
support.
In
fact,
I
think
there
is
really
some
support
in
there
I'm,
not
an
MSX
expert
either
this
this
field
of
technology
is
so
broad,
there's
so
many
topics,
but
if
you
have
particular
scenarios
that
you're,
like
man,
I'm
blocked
in
this
scenario,
DM
me
I'd,
love
to
hear
about
it
and
therefore
I
will
go.
You
know
deep
dive
into
the
topic
with
you
find
it
in
the
specific
answer
and
take
your
feedback.
A
B
We
we
right
now
are
you
know
like
in
today's
live
stream,
we're
not
talking
about
uwp
changing
its
runtime
from
that
not
native.
Certainly,
there
have
been
some
talk
about
this
topic,
but
that's
you
know,
that's
not
in
scope.
For
today's
conversation,
we
will
gladly
talk
about
things
when
we're
ready.
If
we
were
ready,
the
futures
is
exciting,
but
for
now
that's
just
not
in
scope.
Today,
yeah.
A
A
So
I
think
that
was
a
mo
Islands.
Very
nice
tech
I've
really
liked
it
and
another
great
thing
that
this
have
already
happened,
and
you
guys
probably
heard
a
lot
about
it
that
we
open
sourced
all
the
winforms
WPF
code.
We
moving
it
to
dotnet
core
3
yeah.
That
Merlyn
is
very
happy
about
that
and
there
are
actually
people
who
already
tried
to
pour
their
existing
bin
forms
or
WPF
applications
from
dotnet
framework
to
the
net
core
and
Morton
yoson
is
one
of
those
people.
C
C
So
it's
natural
trust
to
start
looking
at
dotnet
core
and
we
were
quite
excited
about
having
an
open
source
and
you
can
I
step
into
it.
We
can
maybe
fix
some
issues
that
are
causing
problems
for
us
that
that's
been
hard
to
do
so.
The
moment
that
was
announced
I
was
up
in
arms
and
very
happy
about
it,
going
open
source
I'm
moving
to
that
net
core.
So
we
early
on
started
running
the
portability,
analyzer,
no
API.
C
C
C
C
For
instance,
the
way
we
used
HTTP,
we
used
an
extra
subclass
of
say,
stupi
handler
that
was
not
available
at
my
core,
but
luckily
for
the
other
platforms,
you
weren't
using
that-
and
it
was
literally
just
switching
over
to
use
that
and
then
we're
using
some
gps
api
system
device.
Api's
and
those
are
not
a
purple.
C
A
C
That
was
a
great
start,
those
for
one
of
the
libraries
that
was
cordoned
what
to
do
and
all
that
stuff,
but
it
was
a.
It
was
a
good
indicator
that
wasn't
that
it
was
doable,
found
a
couple
of
issues
reported,
but
really
nothing
major
I've
seen
fairly
smooth,
so
we're
continually
testing.
We've
noticed
some
of
these
parts
are
being
I've,
been
addressed
since
right
and
so
I
actually
started.
Looking
for.
A
C
C
C
A
C
Null
then
this
wouldn't
all
read,
then
that
would
not
good.
So,
of
course,
I
looked
an
issue
on
the
PR.
You
can
see
it's
close
by
the
way
where
I
pointed
out
the
issue
and
said
why
don't
I
just
fix
it.
So
I'm,
basically
made
of
PR
I
found
the
same
code
in
that
Nick
or
so
it
was
literally
just
adding
a
little
no
check
here
and
then
try
it
out
and
so
basically
take
the
source
code,
compile
it
just
that
it
works
in
submitted
PR,
which
is
great.
C
C
Sometimes
some
of
these
issues
I
may
be
minor
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things.
But
for
me
it's
a
big
big
deal.
So
I'll
take
a
time,
but
it's
actually
easier
for
me
to
make
this
fix
them
and
have
all
those
workarounds
I
couldn't
write
back
then
I
could
just
step
right
into
the
code
made
a
Stickles
who
fix,
try
it
out
luckily,
and
the
experimental
work
to
sum
it
up
here
so
that
that's
gonna
be
huge
for
us
in
the
future.
C
However,
couple
days
ago,
another
big
PRI
got
merged.
That
did
a
bunch
of
cleanup
and
actually
all
those
codes
gone
now.
So
my
PR
is
actually
not
relevant
anymore
because
they
actually
fiend.
All
of
this
click
once
filled
out
so
I
can
actually
confirm
now
that
this
problem
is
gone
so
I
can
I
can
actually
go
I
just
say
if
it's
compiled.
If
we
just
leave
this
for
that
net
framework,
for
now
we
can
come
it
out
and
then
we're
good
to
go.
C
B
B
B
B
A
C
You
know
we
have
a
bunch
of
sample,
is
on
top
of
this,
so
I
actually
took
our
big
sample
app
yesterday
last
night
and
I,
this
one
took
me
longer
took
me
about
half
an
hour
because
we
have
a
bunch
of
different
these
like
different
completion
settings
for
all
sorts
of
different
files,
and
it
took
me
a
while
right,
but
the
project
file
is.
This
is
pretty
much
it.
It's
not
that
big
when
I
was
finally
done,
and
so
here's
actually
our
entire
sample
I'm
running
on
the
core,
which
is
really
awesome.
C
A
A
C
A
A
B
A
B
Worked
at
a
bunch
of
map
controls
over
my
my
developer
last
time
and
I.
Fortunately,
I
can't
talk
about
all
of
that,
but
customers
know
you
know
confidential
stuff,
but
yeah
I
think
that
map
controls
in
general
are
pretty
pretty
awesome.
You
can
do
some
amazing
things
and
I
know
your
company.
Does
some
really
good
work
so
kudos
to
you,
yeah.
B
C
C
It's
this
ability
to
be
able
to
as
a
developer,
pretty
much
pick
the
dotnet
person
I
want
to
use
and
not
worry
about
whether
the
user
has
done
it
for
six
one,
four,
eight
or
whatever
worsen
installed,
and
that
allows
me
as
a
developer
to
pick
I
want
you
to
see
sharp
aid
and
all
the
legacy.
But
I
can't
do
that,
because
I
want
the
user
might
be
an
old
version.
I,
don't
have
to
worry
about
that
anymore.
C
I
can
deploy
met
with
yeah
or
I,
have
it
side
by
side
installed,
and
it
keeps
me
the
flexibility
and
that
that
really
resonates
with
a
lot
of
people.
I.
Think
okay,
because
it
kind
of
gives
us
the
power
back
to
the
developers
to
kind
of
choose
the
platform
you
want
to
build
on,
rather
than
being
limited
by
what
the
user
is
actually
running.
Right.
B
C
I
even
put
my
actually
I
have
a
PR
here,
so
this
is
the
actual
our
sample,
repo
sh
flies.
Runtime
I
get
some
samples
done
net
where
you
can
download
the
sample
the
thought
that
is
actually
in
the
store
to
you
created
from
the
store,
but
here's
their
solution
and
here's
the
project
file,
and
that
is
literally
everything.
I
did
okay,.
B
A
C
Purpose
even
screen
map,
but
here's
actually
the
project
files
I,
think
that
is
the
only
thing
I
changed
apart
from
an
extra
solution.
I
wish
I
should
say,
though,
that
I'm
purely
using
an
internal
buildups,
that's
specific
so
at
my
core
support,
because
we
ship
yet,
but
you
can't
get
the
whole
sample
at
one
line
and
it
has
samples
for
all
platforms
here
for
xamarin
and
under
you
WP,
and
that
would
give
as
well
and
you
can
get
in
the
store,
as
I
mentioned
awesome
great.
C
I
would
say
just
going
through
the
last
night
trying
to
update
the
sample
app.
Is
it
really
helps
understanding
the
SDK
project
founded
how
the
project
files
building,
how
to
include
files
and
store
include
them?
So
try
some
simple
apps
first
and
just
try
and
get
them
move
from
dotnet
framework
and
kind
of
get
the
feel
for
how
that
actually
works.
I.
C
A
B
B
Have
if
you're,
if
you
work
at
a
very
large
company,
and
you
have
a
very
large
project
with
lots
of
complexity,
but
you
really
look
at
my
core
reach
out
to
us.
We
might
be
able
to
help.
We
might
be
able
to
answer
some
questions
or
maybe
even
more
depending
on
the
situation,
so
don't
feel
that
you're
blocked,
because
you
know
something
is
hard,
feel
free
to
engage
with
us.
A
And
feel
free
to
reach
out
with
any
questions
you
can
find
us
on
Twitter.
There
is
a
la
us
that
we
will
publish
where
you
can
send
your
questions
about
port
into
the
net
core
and
submit
issues
in
the
repositories
that
really
helps
us
to
produce
the
product
for
you.
Alright.
Thank
you.
So
much
more
done.
That
was
very
interesting
to
listen
to
your
story.
Thanks
for
joining
us
today,
thanks.
A
B
A
A
And
for
us
it
is
a
very
big
effort
because
we
had
to
redesign
how
the
surface
process
would
run
out
of
process
and
talk
to
so
for
dotnet,
core
application.
The
design
surface
has
to
be
a
dotnet
core
process
that
has
to
talk
to
Visual
Studio
framework
process
and
that's
a
completely
different
way
from
how
it
used
to
work
before
framework
applications.
That's
why
we
need
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
to
actually
make
the
designer
work
for
dotnet
core
project.
A
So
we,
let
me
show
you
what
we
have
so
far
and
I
realize
it's
not
a
super
exciting
demo,
because
I'm
gonna
show
you
vim
forms
designer
that
you
have
used
for
many
years
already,
and
this
designer
would
not
would
be
somehow
cut
and
limited.
But
keep
in
mind
amazing
thing
about
it
is
that
this
runs
in
dotnet
core
out
of
process.
It
supports
the
dotnet
core
application,
so
I'm
gonna
create
I
just
installed
the
new
designer
that
my
dev
team
share
it
with
me.
It's
very
very.
B
B
A
A
Episodes
are
right,
yes,
so
there
are
ways
how
you
can
still
port
your
application
to
the
net
core
and
keep
using
the
traditional
framework.
Designers
and
they're
fewer
options
be
blogged
about
it,
on
our
blog
posts,
on
all
the
papers
of
how
you
can
migrate
your
application
to
the
net
core.
But
basically
you
either
have
two
projects
and
link
the
content.
One
project
is
targeting
good
net
core
and
other
targets
dotnet
framework,
and
you
link
the
content
from
dotnet
framework
to
the
net
course.
A
You
have
on
the
one
set
of
files,
but
two
projects
once
you
need
to
use
the
designer
you
go
ahead
and
you
work
with
a
framework
project.
Another
option
is
to
have
two
project
files
side
by
side
and
in
one
project
file
you
target
dotnet
frame
work
in
the
in.
In
the
other
you
target
dotnet
core
and
again
it's
workarounds,
it's
kind
of
hawks.
They
would
not
work
perfectly.
It's
not
the
experience
we
want
to
provide
to
you.
We
are
working
on
the
designer.
A
A
Thank
you
so
much
that's
what
I
should
have
done,
so
we
can
see.
I
can
next
to
my
forum,
one
which
already
means
there
is
a
designer.
You
just
saw
they
window,
it's
a
new
process
started
and
we
see
the
form
and
this
form
is
the
dotnet
core
designer
form.
What
so,
what
we
can
do
already.
We
can
add
some
controls.
We
will
adjust
the
size
of
the
controls
because,
right
now
they
come
out
too
small,
but
and
also
the
naming
can
be
improved,
but
we
can
add
them
to
the
form
we
can
drag
them.
B
B
B
B
So
there's
a
question
in
the
chat
about
the
WPF
designer
I.
Will
I
will
talk
about
a
lot
more
after
awliyas
done
with
with
the
wind
part
of
this
talk,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
the
previous
owner
is
already
in
16.2
preview,
1
or
greater.
So
it's
ready
there,
it's
not
by
any
means
done,
but
it's
there.
It's.
A
Now,
let's
add
one
else:
how
about
chart
so
tool
box
is
working
and
so
for
the
first
preview
version
we
are
going
to
support
common
controls
and
you'll,
see
how
much
we
will
get
done
for
all
the
rest
controls.
They
will
not
be
in
the
tool
box.
So
if
the
control
is
not
supported,
it's
not
in
the
tool
box,
but
eventually
we
will
bring
it
to
functional
parity
with
dotnet
framework.
So
you
will
get
exactly
the
same
designer.
Don't
think
that
only
common
controls,
it's
what
you're
gonna
have
an
invoice
from
now
on.
A
B
So,
let's
talk
about
that,
let's
switch
over
to
my
machine
and
I
will
I
will
point
out
that
in
the
release
notes
which
I
think
are
very
poorly
linked
in
chat
there?
Sorry!
But
basically,
if
you
go
to
the
release,
notes
a
visual
studio,
you
will
find
that
we
are
already
talking
about
the
same
old
designer
for
for
dotnet
court,
3,
WPF
applications
as
well.
This
you
know
says
it
all.
B
So
I
won't
read
it,
but
I
will
just
say
the
general
theme
is
we
are
still
working
on
the
designer
and
we
will
continue
working
until
it's
done
the
the
biggest
thing
that
I
want
to
be
transparent.
The
whole
point
of
these,
through
our
conversations,
is
for
us
to
have
a
very
transparent
conversation
again
feel
free
to
follow
up.
If
you
have
specific
questions
or
concerns
based
on
what
I
say
on
Twitter
with
me,
but
we
we
want
to
acknowledge
the
different
kind
of
designers
that
we
have
for
sam'l
developers
building
for
desktop.
B
So
we
today
in
right
away
like
forget
Batman
court.
Today
we
have
two
of
them.
We
have
one
for
WPF
developers
and
we
have
a
different
code
base
running
for
uwp
developers
and
that's
just
the
reality
of
you
know
the
the
the
complexity
is
of
the
different
platforms.
One
is
that
met
framework.
One
is
that
not
native,
and
then,
if
you
get
into
the
architecture
of
things,
Visual
Studio
is
built
in
a
certain
way.
B
We
had
to
figure
out
how
to
make
that
work
with
dotnet
core
as
well,
and
the
the
easiest
thing
the
the
path
that
was
going
to
be
make
us
successful
in
the
reasonable
amount
of
time
in
a
time
frame
that
allows
us
to
work
on
other
things
as
well,
but
the
community
wants
or
needs
that
became
the
uwp
designer
we're
basically
making
the
uwp
designer
and
its
set
of
features
available
as
the
designer
for
the
developers
in,
in
the
hope
that
incredibly
AP
of
space.
So
what
does
that
mean
just
practically
speaking?
B
A
B
A
Certainly,
and
in
future
let
us
know
what
you
would
want
us
to
talk
about
cuz
we
can.
We
can
adjust
our
content
to
be
most
useful
for
you.
So
please
feedback
is
very
welcome.
There
is
a
one
question
you
probably
already
answered,
but
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize
that
are
you
planning
on
preview
version
for
WPF
designer
in
September
as
well?
Yes,
so.
A
B
A
B
It
relates
to
parody
with
uwp
and
at
some
point,
we'll
just
announce
that
we've
reached
parity
quality,
accessibility,
there's
so
many
things
that
go
into
making
this
kind
of
a
great
product
that
I
know
that's
from
the
community
standpoint
you
like
yeah,
we
get
it
get
it
done.
We
are
definitely
trying
to
get
it
done
and
of
course
we
do
recognize
that
Dogma
core
is
at
some
point
going
to
go.
Gonna
go
GA
and
we
certainly
would
like
to
align
in
September.
B
A
B
Say
you
know
we
are.
We
are
aware
already
of
some
of
the
issues,
but
we'll
just
figure
the
bugs
basically
I
will
and
my
team,
so
we'll
figure
out
what
it
is,
but
take
a
look
here
make
sure
it's
working
for
you.
If
something
isn't
working
for
you,
please
please
let
us
know,
but
the
designer
isn't
there
perfect.
A
B
That's
a
great
feedback,
I
would
actually
love
to
hear
deeper.
I
mean
have
a
deeper
conversation
with
you
on
the
details
of
this.
So
if
you,
if
you
want
to
reach
out
to
me,
if
that's
if
you're
comfortable
with
that,
you
can
do
so
over
email,
my
email
is
basically
my
first
name
that
last
name
is
Microsoft
comm,
so
Dimitri
dot
Island
at
microsoft.com,
I'm
right
there
in
chat
with
you,
you
folks,
so
you
can
see
my
name
or
you
can
reach
me
on
Twitter.
B
B
A
And
there
was
a
while
we're
on
VIN
firms
control,
even
though
we're
not
anymore
about
what
was
the
buck
with
the
stream
collection
editor
ever
fixed
stream
collection.
If
you
could
point
me
to
that,
back
I
will
make
sure
I
have
updated
status
on
it
and
I
wonder
is
that
the
back
for
dotnet
core
or
it
was
at
the
framework
issue
I'm,
not
sure,
but
I'll
follow
up
on
them.
Thank
you.
Okay.
A
B
Is
this
a
question
of
cross-platform
support
for
wind
forums
or
WPF,
because
if
it
is,
you
know
we
don't?
We
don't
have
that
in
our
plans
at
this
point,
we're
not
planning
to
make
these
frameworks
like
that
met,
core
runs,
cross-platform
and
I
know.
You
know
just
honestly
if
I
was
a
customer
chose
to
be
confused
like
if
that
meant
cores,
cross-platform
and
Dartmouth
core
is
coming
at
the
wind
forms
and
WPF
shouldn't.
They
be
just
be
cross-platform,
but
they're,
not
written
in
that
way.
Just
go
look
at
the
WPF
source
code.
A
B
Definitely
encourage
folks
to
take
a
look
at
Samer
and
there's
nobody
from
Xiamen
team
right
here
at
the
table,
but
we
we
would
love
to
engage
if
there's
some
scenario
that
that
technology
helps
you
yeah
all
right.
So
for
the
next
thing
that
I
wanted
to
talk
about
from
my
side
of
the
world
for
WPF
and
uwp
developers,
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
a
feature
that
I
just
like
to
advertise.
Can
I
can
I
just
plug
an
advertisement
into
the
show.
B
Take
care
of
that
no
more
skinny
a
cut
10%.
He
still
on
the
call,
so
he
is
like
yeah
definitely
keep
the
money
coming
all
right.
So,
let's
talk
about
another
feature
of
our
tools
for
developers,
experience
and
this
is
I'm
going
to
open
a
visual
studio,
because
the
best
way
sometimes
is
just
to
show
it.
This
is
a
set
of
features
that
come
together
and
really
kind
of
the
best
describe
proof
for
the
brand
name
that
we're
trying
to
you
know
they
were
trying
to
associate
with
it,
which
is
hard
reload.
B
We
are
actively
working
in
this
technology,
so
I
like
to
talk
about
it
and
show
it
in
fact,
right
here,
I'm
running
some
preview
bits
which
are
exploring
advertising
hard
reload
to
customers
in
a
much
more
verbose
way
right
now,
if
you
have
sort
of
the
mainline
release,
not
the
private
bits,
all
you're
gonna
see
when
you
run
a
WPF
or
you
the
BP
app.
Is
this
little
toolbar
up
here?
This
is
what
we
call
the
in-app
toolbar
and
we're
adding
some
more
advertising
to
it.
B
It's
a
bit
early
to
talk
about
that,
so
how
I'll
bring
it
up,
probably
in
the
next
chat
as
well,
but
for
now
just
be
aware,
we
are
looking
to
improve
this,
but
let's
talk
about
how
it
works
today,
because
it's
really
a
really
cool
feature.
So,
if
you're
building
an
application
at
some
point,
you
you're
gonna
you're
gonna
hit
a
five
at
some
point.
You're
gonna
run
at
some
point.
Your
your
application
is
gonna
only
feel
good
and
feel
complete
when
the
data
is
loaded.
B
This
is-
and
this
is
a
perfect
example-
this
application
without
data
is
pretty
pretty
empty,
but
the
moment
you
have
data
and
you
start
clicking
around
you
start
getting
quite
a
bit
of
packages.
This
is
just
a
little
open
source
app.
One
of
my
previous
colleagues
built,
we've
demoed
it
before
the
app
itself
is
not
important,
but
the
technology
that
that
is
enabling
hot
reload
is
something
that
is
often
overlooked
and
that's
all
our
fault.
The
community
has
not
been
really
really
told
and
explained
this
technology
is
here
being
very
transparent.
B
We
didn't
have
that
great
documentation,
so
I'm
working
to
fix
the
documentation
story,
I'm
working
to
make
it
more
discoverable
because
it
already
is
pretty
awesome.
So
let
me
show
you
why
it's
pretty
awesome.
So,
let's
talk
about
the
different
features
that
make
it
all
come
together
fully.
The
first
feature
is
this
selector
right
here.
This
is
similar
to
chrome
tools.
If
you
say
enable
selection,
you
can
start
clicking
around
and
actually
selecting
code,
basically
looking,
for
example,
in
your
application.
B
So
there's
this
thing
called
the
live
visual
tree,
which
you
can
have
open
in
your
app
this
much
better
into
monitors,
but
it
will
make
it
work
somehow
for
the
demo.
So
as
you
as
you
go
around,
you
can
go
ahead.
Actually
let
me
do
this
I'm
going
to
go
home.
This
is
gonna,
be
easy.
It's
just
just
for
demo
sake,
so
you
can
say
MSX
catalog,
but
where
does
MSX
catalog
live
in
my
in
my
now,
very
large
application
has
lots
of
zamel
there's
lots
of
pages
lots
of
views.
B
Lots
of
styles
and
then,
when
I
make
a
change
to
MSX
catalog,
something
like
I'm
running
the
app.
Let's
say
this
was
affected
by
data
and
now
I,
don't
think
MSX
catalog
is
the
right
thing
to
show.
Do
I
have
to
stop
my
application
to
make
this
change
if
you're
WPF
or
your
WP
developer,
and
as
long
as
you
hit
f5
as
long
as
you
see
this
in
app
toolbar
and
you
hit
a
5
you're
good
to
do
hard
reload,
you
don't
have
to
make
that
change.
B
So
I'm
gonna
do
this
again
from
the
start,
I'm
going
to
hit
the
naval
selection,
I'm,
gonna
click
on
this.
This
made
the
live
visual
tree.
Another
cool
feature
that
works
even
by
itself.
Without
the
selector,
that's
showing
you,
your
runtimes
app
hierarchy
of
all
the
controls
are
nested,
but
there's
these
little
buttons
right
here
that
say:
use
the
saml,
so
I'm
going
to
click
on
that
and
I'm
actually
gonna
be
taken
to
where
the
sam'l
is
now.
Here's
the
magic,
unfortunately
hard
to
show
I'll
I'll,
somehow
try
to
generate.
B
C
A
B
B
The
text
block
back,
it's
powerful,
you
know
the
the
biggest
limitations
today
are
if
you
need
to
like
mess
with
the
file
system.
So
if
you
need
to
add
a
new
control
and
that
Digital
Studio
will
block
you
from
adding
mean
you
can
all
you
got
to
stop
at
the
control,
but
once
yours
amell's
and
then
you
control
and
you
run
it-
you
can
edit
the
saml
at
runtime.
You
can
change
binding
at
runtime,
a
very,
very
powerful
feature.
B
B
This
is
really
the
thing
that
we
would
love
to
get
your
feedback
on
and,
in
the
future,
you'll
see
a
lot
of
improvements,
we're
looking
to
make
certain
things
work
for
the
BPF,
the
don't
work
today
when
you
change
certain
zamel
we're
looking
to
improve
for
the
either
beepy
developers.
How
good
that
selector
of
zamel
is
in
your
runtime
app.
There's
all
sorts
of
things
that
we're
exploring,
hopefully
by
next
community
stand
up.
I'll
have
a
lot
more
to
talk
about
yeah.
A
A
B
A
B
B
A
A
A
B
B
A
B
A
What
helps
us
to
prioritize
our
work
to
understand
what
exactly
you
need,
how
we
can
make
it
better
how
we
can
not
suck
right?
Yes,
all
right!
And
yes,
let
us
know
what
you
want
to
hear
in
those
community
stand-ups,
because
if
there
is
something
that
is
curious,
but
it
was
a
while
ago,
so
we
don't
talk
about
it
by
all
means,
bring
it
up
and
we'll
do
that,
all
right!
Yes,
off
topic!
Do
these
dreamers
get
they
had
money.