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A

And I think we're live. He.

B

Says live a little little things: okay,.

A

Now I'm gonna test and see if it's because I recently don't tell aunt Salman or Damien yeah, they're all never know. I recently started the thing up and forgot to actually like post the link or whatever and people couldn't see it and mm-hmm I think my crime has covered every you. Everybody see it. You know I five. Thank you, Michael all right, weird on the money. So this is awesome. We've got Glenn and Mike hello, and you folks are here to talk to us today about the HTTP repple yeah.

B

That's right, yeah. He just talked to you about that and.

A

As you told me, you were madly coding to show off new stuff late last night and even as we were setting up this morning, you were we.

B

May not have rebuilt twice whilst we've been sitting here. This.

A

Is exciting, I think.

B

I may be like pulling and building and we're getting a new version to run right now before before I get to share my screen. That's.

A

Awesome, that is one of the main reasons that the Community Links section of the show exists just.

B

So that we can get other people just.

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For that reason, I like.

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Right, let's do it so let me go and share my screen. I'm sharing my screen and I need to lock on me.

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I think so, yeah cool edge has this exciting thing which I haven't decided if I like yet or not, but it shows every single tab as a new window which, for like a tab, a holic like me, is not very handy. It's a lot of windows to alt tab through cool all right. Let's start with Shane Boyer, so Shane Boyer took he's been doing a ton of stuff behind the scenes. We've we've had this some this workshop we've talked about for you. We've been doing this for years now.

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This is a workshop that we build Damien, David, Fowler myself, a lot of people there's what for almost 400 commits on this thing. So this is a workshop where we go through. We build a conference planner, including some different parts. There's a Web, API back-end, there's a dotnet standard, dto library, there's a front-end. We've got a Java Script services, front-end all kinds of stuff, so um so we've gone through and built this out and there's actually some, including there's a single page, app front-end thing.

A

That's that Shane updated to use the angular CLI front-end update stuff. We have deploying to docker and helm all kinds of good things in there. One thing that we do in order to make it so that people can follow along, not get lost. If something breaks you can you can, you know recover from it? Is we have these save points? So not only is there the kind of final source code, but there's also these safe points all along the way.

A

For you know, here's where you should be, as you finish up this chapter and one difficulty with that, is that every time there's an update like say you know, two 1rc comes out. You know two one preview, one preview to release come out, etc. We need to update those and we need to test them all out. mmm What Shane did is he went through and hooked this all up.

A

This is well so so, what's going on here, is that he's actually hooked this up with VST s, and there is there are builds going on for all of the different for the front-end in the backend, but there's also builds going on for the save points for each chapter, which is huge, so he actually goes through in this. He talks about how he's pulling the source code from github and doing multiple builds for all the different things, so this this includes all these save points right.

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Yeah so I recommend this, especially if your project has has more than one project. You know if you've got to get hub release going on and you've got a more complicated build. This is really cool. How we went through and did this. This is using all the kind of newest stuff on VST s build. So so two takeaways here one continue to use this. This workshop, we had a lot of great stuff here and to is Shane, is awesome and three is here's how he showed off how to do all this Wolvie STS build. That's.

B

What nice picture yeah.

A

Yeah, so speaking of build and relock has gone through and shown off, the new stuff with at Bayer and Linux builds, so at Bayer has had support for Windows builds for a long time. They recently added in support for Linux builds as well, and so Andrew goes through and shows out shows off how to you know.

A

You can start with an app ver yamo file, and this defines your your build, so you can go into out there and you can kind of click through the settings and and configure a build, but the real kind of nice way to do it. That's that's you know, people can do pull requests on and can see what you're doing and all that kind of stuff is using the yamo file to define things, and so he um you know, shows how to how to do that. Here's his yamo.

A

He shows how to set that up, but then he goes in and says here I'm how to make it work on linux as well. So here's you know, he's picking the moon to image, he's updating his build script, etc, and then here's a nice thing as well is the conditional artifact deployment. So you can say here's you know out of these different things, I'm building, here's, what I want to actually deploy so good stuff.

A

Alright, big beefy article from Anthony Chu on real-time applications, with asp net course signal our.

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So we've had you know blog posts and docs and things showing saying showing an asp net core signal. Our anthony goes into some really good detail, showing some things like you know, starting with what it is and talking about the javascript library and an advantage recently. As you know, it doesn't require jquery, so it can work with it but doesn't require it. So he goes through and talks about all the kind of basic stuff and then builds up to some things, including some neat. Things like you know, presence he shows deploying to Azure.

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He shows things like a pre connection. You know kind of it's, you can see from the scrollbar. This is a big article, so this is in the latest code magazine and also available online. Oh.

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Are you talking to me, are you talking to your build and cursing at it said.

B

Good to see Melissa Melissa threatening, oh.

A

Yeah yeah so from Damien Bowden on bootstrap 4. So this this is one showing how he's configured it using webpack and typescript and NPM so kind of basically showing here's how to set up a build so webpack, not something I'm super familiar with. So this is. This is cool to see as he's kind of walking through and showing. How he's got this set up and, as always, Damien always ends up.

A

His is a post with you know: here's where you can grab the stuff on github as well so cool stuff, and here he's also done one showing updating asp net core identity to use bootstrap. For so this is showing you know, updating the asp net core identity stuff and showing it using bootstrap 4 as well.

A

Alright, so here's our last community one! This is Travis and he's showing. This is a deep dive into Microsoft configuration. So this is the config stuff that everything in asp net core runs on. So he starts with the basics on you know: everything's key value. It.

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It's it's really. This is like a mini book. Basic yeah.

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A

This is really cool going through. You know, building up all the different providers, I'm, actually gonna, skip way down to the end and show kind of his his key takeaways. So he shows all the things about. You know it's all key value. He talks about where things are pulled from and and overridden talks about some things like you may not expect, like um validation and stuff there's.

B

Something actually that I, don't I'm, not sure I've ever actually talked to anybody using in real life, which is the ordinal like a Rea syntax for for configuration, oh yeah, yeah yeah. No, you don't know well that that's great, you should read his blog post yep.

A

Yeah tons and tons of stuff in there yeah that the ordinal array, and it's in is that the one were you talking about they're kind of with the separators the path separators. It's.

B

So that you can basically put a collection, you can put a collection like an array into your config file and then index get keys with the index in so you can go to kind of zero or one or two.

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B

Elements out of an array inside your config data makes it frequency right, like the nth element of versing, of an array inside your Jason thing. You could do that now.

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A

It is weird enough collection, yeah,.

B

Which I'm not sure I've ever actually I'm, not sure I, don't know if anybody ever actually has used, but it was a really cool feature. Go.

A

Alright, so the last one I'm gonna end on is this one here, so this is we're talking to you our you know. Our community stand up, Watchers that are kind of watching all the latest check-ins and ok with all the the newest late-breaking stuff, and all that so this is. This- is kind of a advance. Look at the road map for asp net court to to right so I, don't know Glenn. If there's anything you want to talk about in here. This is.

B

Yeah there is a link. There is links to talk, so some a bunch of you have already found and talked about this at various on various blog various issues. Around github we put as much detail as I kind of I put as much detail in it as I had at the time the things that don't have much detail don't have much detail, because we don't know what we're doing so. You should take that kind of into account.

B

There's a general there's an issue to go talk to us in general about the release, and then there is two milestones with issues assigned. Then you can go. Look through the look through the repos and talk about it. But if you have questions or want to talk about any of the stuff, that's on here, you know reach out to me or two or go log issues or talk on the on the home repo issue. That's linked to this thing.

B

I think it makes sense, there's kind of an arc, there's kind of an arc of what we're trying to achieve here. There's a lot of focus on api's and getting and and generate zooming metadata swagga metadata from from api's, okay.

A

And you know: I, like I, got this information this as quickly as anyone else could I subscribe to this repo here. So this is pianet announcements and before I got any emails or anything internal up. Microsoft I saw this going out here. So if you want to keep an eye on what's going on the safety net announcements, repo I believe it has information yeah, so you can just watch this repo and you'll see all the kind of top announcements as I.

B

Also, you know I think Ben Adams actually retweeted. We bought the tweeted from the announcement repo before I was able to move my cursor from.

B

Go on the announcement to tweet out to be able to click tweet on my own tweet, that's saying that it was available, so yeah probably been Adams. You would have seen him retweeted, probably okay,.

A

And someone already asked in the chat you know: can I get a link to these and I will share that link out just a second so and then we put that in show description as well. Yeah.

B

Yeah Jonathan health checks appears to be the feature we love to cut every release. That's hopefully, hopefully this time.

A

All right, yeah.

B

So there's another, so is that all the stuff? That's all.

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I have for this.

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I really needed you to give me like you, wanted more and actually.

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Just just less like one more blog post.

B

Anyway, the so well.

A

If you want I can actually I can point to so some of the stuff you're showing is with this. This HTTP repple thing.

B

A

So there was well I, did a talk and it was based a lot basically on from build. There was he. um There was a talk where Hanselman and Hunter did write. Yeah.

B

So I and I linked to that I linked to the moment where they start in the announcement blog post, where we talk about the HTTP rebel I link to the minute, we're at hunter and handsome and start talking about the read in the bill talk. So if you guys are interested in seeing the first kind of prototype of this that we saw at Build you could um you can go check that out by clicking that link yep.

A

So I've got that is right here, that is this YouTube blah blah blah and there it is right there. So this was really cool and then I worked with you on a talk. I gave recently where I um I went through and got this set up and ran as RIT's. It's exciting stuff.

B

Well, I would be happy to know that nothing you learn is true anymore. That's.

A

That's part of the fun of my job. Everything I learned is completely disposable information. Okay, so.

B

Yeah I guess everybody can probably see us at the moment so background for those of you who might not have followed, along with some of the growth of this kind of repple tool that we we're going to talk about now. The I've been talking about it on and off for a while with various internal products, I was trying to convince people that it was a cool idea. We talked, we had the donut tools, kind of experience drop which allowed us to actually ship something like this and at the MVP summit.

B

A lot of MVPs got really excited, which gave me more kind of momentum to be able to get something done, and then I hacked together a prototype over the course of a couple of nights showed it around at the MVP summer at MVPs got excited my hunter thought. It was a great idea and then we kind of went from there to where we were showing that same prototype from the MVP summit at Build.

B

Then, once we decided it was a great idea. I had to have somebody with some amount of engineering talent, like my head ski gear, to my left. I to you know, product eyes said demo, which meant you know making sure it could actually build because turns out my repo didn't build by the time he got back from parental leave. You know at unit tests actually in reality he rewrote in reality you in reality. He basically started from scratch with just the kind of command list that I had implemented and said. Okay, let's go let's go.

B

We build this rebel and so it's kind of broken into a couple of parts. Now you have a kind of almost a library for building rebels kind of infrastructure, for if you were to build some other type of wrap or loop, the newer that you would need and then HTTP implementation of that. But let's so, let's jump in and I'll share my screen and then wha avoid the inception Asst. So here, if you can see, I'll wait for John to say: yeah I can see.

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B

So I've run the rebel locally and it doesn't have anything to connect to. So what I have on this machine is a standard values. Controller all I did was add, swagger, add swashbuckle to it, so that I had a swagger doc. I didn't bump up my fonts and measure studio and Hanselman will be most disappointed. So what we can do here, the way this wrapper works, it's centered around base addresses. So, unlike you know, curl or something like that, I expect you to.

B

We expect you to have to be like running you're running your apple against some kind of site that you have running it's in Sciences, designed to try and increase the productivity around being able to go and fire up your API and today, if you would go into Visual, Studio and you'll go make an API and you press f5 a present browser with a 404, probably right, maybe if you're lucky it'll, take you to the actual kind of end point of one of the controllers or something can you'll be able to see some text right, but.

A

When you would run a project, it would just the default route would be the index home or whatever right.

B

Which doesn't exist in the default route in the in the template that we create by default or doesn't actually have anything on it, and so what we wanted to assay, and so then, if you want to debug your kind of get or your post or something in your in your application. So the example that we used to give all the time was like how how do I functions? How do I hit a breakpoint here on my controller right, like I hid, this was kind of.

B

What's the canonical question right, how do I hit that and you could kind of hit that from a browser? And then you well, if you know the URI is fine and then the next question was okay. But how do I hit like this guy right.

A

And then we'd say: oh, you have to get postman or whatever you.

B

Know or jump under the command line you get curl you use, use some site order, maybe even fiddler or you might go and create a unit test project or have or add unit tests to your unit test project. That just makes requests against your app so that you can like debug and run and test and explore your application.

B

So we wanted to try and not like replace, postman or any of those tools, but we believe, if you kind of had a Venn diagram, there is a set of super common things that you want from several tools that we believe we could put into a CLI experiments. The experience that would give you a bunch of common features, a bunch of kind of your common tasks, would be able to be done by without having to reach for the more advanced tools or the more automated tools, if that makes sense.

B

So first problem we talked about was well how do I know what I want to get. So we said all right if this this using swagger metadata from here we've tried to discover if you've got a swagger doc. If you do, then we will go through that document. The open, API doc to find what you have what raps you have, because your documents should have them, which means you can LS and it's LS inge. Basically, the routes that are available from this document so.

A

Does this have my feature request from when I gave my talk where it auto discovers that yeah.

B

It does yeah and then so, no and so now I can use this similar to like up to a file system like in CD, into API or I, could CD into values and then and then needs an ID. So if here, if I said just get, it would execute a get request against the slash API as slash values were out and show me the results right or if I was to like pop back up to the base.

B

If I just did get well now, I just did get against slash, but, as we said earlier, the default template we said I doesn't have anything on slash because and that's why the browser returns before fo your first browse to it.

B

What if Austin types they get API slash values, then I could get some values right around it value one right and it would return me the the one, the one value or we can then CB into CAC, D value, say get one right and then ya get one and see that and then then, we've said: okay. Well, there's a there's a few other cool things like we know that this values, this values, API that we're currently putting around here, also does post.

B

So what if we said you could do post and then it said: okay, here, here's your posts. What do you want to? What do you want to post to it, and then you could maybe put some put some jason in here. Oh wow,.

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Don't know what, like I don't know what this api accepts, but let's put something in there and then it'll post. That data turns out. My data was invalid, but like yeah, so the idea here is you: can you can press a post or put? We will pop a browser? One of the feature, we're features that will add here will be if you have given us so everything I've described the get so the get and the post and all of these basic facial, fifi verbs.

B

You can use them without open api docs, but you have to type all you have to know and type all the uri is. You can't see you can see the around if you know them, but you can't LS cuz, we don't know what they are to list them for you right, and so you can see the arbitrary stuff. It's really just adding things onto the end of your path and you can try whatever you want right.

B

So I could like see up here and I could say say: go back to the route and I could say CB, John and then type cat. It tries to get John because, like whatever man I'm.

A

Not found you're.

B

Not found John's not found right, so we you can use the ideas. You can use the repple completely without any open api docs. But if you add open API data well now we know about your routes. We can let you LS around.

B

We can let you we can let you explore your application and then you can CD in and out, and you can do gets and posts and ports and all the standard HTTP verbs against your app and then, when you do something that requires data, we will let you do it in line, but also pop an editor. In this case you can. What is the command for this? If we have completion in here right?

B

Let's see this is state. This is a this command completion. By the way, I was looking for the thing to set the editor. Perhaps perhaps a draft set, so in here you can.

B

We can set the set the editor that you want to like a command to a to the edits to the command that you could be actually that you can around that's Indonesia editor. So, in my case, he runs like sublime on notepad plus plus when he does a push.

B

In my case, it opens up vs code, it's similar to kind of the github model of I'm, going to configure an editor that I'm going to use to to edit these to view these posts and what we hope to do is we have your swagger doc, which has kind of JSON schema in it. So we hope to be able to pre populate that file with Jason. That is already.

B

There is already valid to be able to be sent to the end point that you can just tweak and then hit Send on alright, so imagine being able to say post and then in the post. It'll have. This will already be properly pre-populated with you know some P right, some value or whatever you whatever.

B

You want right, it'll, be similar to what you see in in swagger, swagger UI, when you, when you put you open up, swagger UI and you can see example, Jason will probably put something for this looks very similar to that in the file by default, so that you can just tweak it and go just edit the file on them just edit and go yeah it'll it'll be like here's. The valid jason. If you just click go, will send this, but it probably a bit much.

B

It probably has all the values empty or something can you just type in values, but otherwise the structure is all there and ready for you, alright, cool. Let me remind myself what else we've done in here there's an echo on and off, so you can kind of we we by default, just get you. We show you a few, a set of a few headers header values and you can turn that I want to be able to get more data areas setters.

B

So if you said header foo bar.

C

Her ability to see all the common headers doesn't get through really okay, so if I say set hitter and then go whoa.

B

Look at that, oh.

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B

Right, okay, so what sort of header do we want to set? If I said me, except if I said user agent, all right and I said it to John, that's yeah and then I say get so now. I've sent the user agents frederico on. Do I see that yeah, and so now you can see guys user agent is John, and that was that was that's.

B

That was that header will be sent on all requests for this session, because I've set this kind of global header to be able to be set right and then, if I do something like the men, if I kill this I do like I'm gonna I was actually running from Mike's branch, myk's myk's.

B

B

Then I'm going to run my command, which those of you who can see the branch can tell that it is a that logs. So now I'm just running straight from our straight from our github repo, whereas before I was running from a tool that I had kind of built and pre-packed. But that's fine. Let me clear, said: base HTTP, localhost colon again, keep forgetting and I keep forgetting to leave it in my clipboard five, nine eight eight six, because I am that's because I've I've control f5 individually. So it's running yes!

B

So if I do get and I do, CD, API values and I talk yet and that's I've got one or something like that: okay value brandy. If I come back here and I, do something like and I throw new exception. I know it's wrong.

B

I, don't know what's wrong, but.

B

For this John's fault, that's pretty sick statement to make I think Olivia.

B

Supposed to do that then come back over here and run my get Andrew might get one again eventually, once I, assuming I have actually control that five to this guy function key and what I should? What we should see over here is that my application will it will crash right, I'll get a 500, which is what I've got here now 500 for my app.

B

So then I can do something like type logs if I type, the logs command, which was only in my branch because I implemented it last night, then I get all of the logs from my application, including in this case I, don't know what's wrong, but it's John's fault. I get my exception message: I get a stack trace for where the exception to a place and I can see each of these each of my get and requests coming in now I.

B

What I'm trying to do here is you've already got the full kind of dump of logs for your application. So this isn't that right. This is not everything your app could see. It's a bit hard it's hard to tell here, because all of the my font size is so big that it's kind of skewed a little bit. But what my intend to do here is I was going to indent logs for requests.

B

So what you'll start to see is something like request start and then all log messages that are within this request will be like indented, a little bit so you'll be able to tell which log for which request it maintains kind of 30, odd log messages. So it's only the last kind of few that you see will probably do special syntax coloring right like this, this string will probably pass out. So the URI is a different-colored, so they get to the HTTP verb.

B

We know the types of logs that you're going to be getting from a dotnet application, so we can special case a bunch of them. We can play around and like try and make them super usable to really focus in on the pieces of information you care about and then for when, for when the things and then for everything else, you've already got your logs. You've got the full logs for your app if you want to go, look at the full logged up in the console or in a file right.

B

So the idea here is to try and give you something different to that something more request focused something that's kind of, maybe maybe colorized and super useful for say a bunch of debugging purposes, but not necessarily super useful for budget or for anything else. Things like that right right, really examine what we're doing here with some with a little bit of a slightly different focus and see see how that goes so.

A

Yeah one question: that's come up and I'm sorry to break the flow up here and and I. Don't know if you've covered this already enough, but several people have asked you know how is this better than postman or how does this relate like? Why would I? Why is this useful to me when I've got postman already right.

B

So postman will be able to do a whole bunch of the things that this does it'll be able to do a whole bunch of them, some of them better, and if you like, visual stuff I've got to do a whole bunch of visual things, it will be able to do a lot more than this in that it'll have that whole testing focus that it has it'll, be able to be able to store collections and pay for all of the cloud features that they have, and things like that, what it will not be able to do is like this logs commands.

B

It doesn't know that it's a botnet application. It will not be able to deeply integrate with what you get. So in this case, this lowest command actually listens to the etw events. For my hat, my application is: has the the event the event source logger added to it, and so I'm going to be able to do things?

B

For example, in here, you'll be able to see potentially a distributed trace where, if I had a web application 16 talking to web application, 17 I would be able to see logs from both of them here when they talk to each other logs command because of I'll be able to trace my request that I made here through a couple of different apps to see the logs for them, potentially obviously the logs.

B

Hopefully in a nice format, we still have to play around with a bunch of that I might be able to interleave events come from the or effects right so because I know that it's dotnet and I know that it's atw I can listen for all of the appropriate stuff that comes out framework. So when an error occurs, for example, I might be able to say: oh yeah I saw a bunch of stuff that might be related to this, and maybe done maybe lets you type a command to seek or FX ET.

B

No, you data are just on the command line, but there's there's the whole thing of.

A

Like that is a tool and I can always install developer tools, but this is nice for me that it's it comes along with the application, so any developer. So.

B

The other fun, the other thing that the CLI will do, which you might have seen earlier, is when I control f5 my app. It actually opened up this shell instead of opening up the browser.

B

So here, if I have control f5 function, P again here, if I control, f5, then I get this shell open right by default and I can just see my app and I can never get around and I can do bits. Okay, so.

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B

Is it we give you a browser when it's the least useful tool for you to explore your application by default in all of our stuff right.

A

Yeah right so this is this is a more useful thing, and so that's that's cool that you showed that in case people admits that you can integrate that as a tool. Yeah yeah.

B

And so you know, and and then I imagining vs code, you could make it a city and a city in a window all the time and just be available, and you can just you can just be folks to per focused on your api and just be like. Oh I'm working on this one get and then just do change some code up get up, enter right up enter and my request happens right.

B

A

Is there a way for me to extend or customize this as a developer? Like I could say, I know my application is doing this specific kind of thing with api's or I'm testing this one thing all the time.

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B

You mean like extending the tool to be able to kind of add your own commands or read your own behavior and yeah yeah. It's it's been asked a couple of times we haven't, we haven't done anything to kind of explicitly, allow it right now, but it's not like off the cards right like you could imagine so the way this works is there's a program main and in it it has, you know, commands dot, add command, class command so to add command class.

B

Over and over again, you couldn't really are saying you know having some configuration that said, here's an assembly that contains command classes and we would loop through that and call out on every one of them and then that would you kind of plug in your own commands and you would have the type so that we that the application did that the repple gives you we're. Not you don't know, I, don't know that we would do that in the beginning and I.

B

Don't know it's not necessarily on our list of features right now, but it's certainly possible. So that would be like you know: everybody throw us your your cool ideas right. If you said this.

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B

Source code that I'm opening up is the program main for the raffle, so in.

A

This report, it's implemented as a dotnet global command, right, yeah.

B

It'll be a global command, so once we ship it it'll, be, you know, don't add tools install you know, HTTP wrapper or something Microsoft pasted over and and you'll be able to.

B

You know: don't head patient, Pierre, Apple or HTTP rep, or not show exactly what the command-line XE will be when we, when we ship it as a global tool right now, it's dotnet space HTTP ripple because we ship it we've done it in front of the name, whether or not that's true in the future, we'll see and then in Visual Studio over here, I went into here and I said browse with and then clicked had and then I went and added.

B

The see I have two different versions of this tool: the earlier prototype and the one Mike just did, which is this one select the X thing that got generated when I installed my global tool and then it becomes for all intents and purposes, a browser as far as Visual Studio is concerned, which means that when you browse down here, you can say browse with and you could choose chrome where you could choose like a ripple. This.

A

That's a really cool extensibility thing, so.

B

That's just kind of using this existing feature. This feature isn't perfect. We might play around we're trying to extend this a little bit later, because it's kind of like off API projects, I'd kind of like it to be the wrapper by default for everything else, I'd kind of like it to be getting my browser of choice by default, so I'm not sure that it's perfect just yet, but it's a nice extensibility point right now, we'll be able to use today without having to wait for, like some new version of Visual Studio or anything like that.

B

A

Somebody asked in the chat is this scriptable and I'm not even sure what people yeah.

B

I don't know there.

A

B

Not sure what he means by scriptable so getting to clarify and then I'm gonna run this command.

B

And somebody means by scriptable.

B

A

Basically, run a collection of requests run.

B

A collection of requests, huh LM flesh. We called this thing- oh yeah, so you want to be like, so you want to use it more like you would use curl or something like that. Right, yeah, yeah, sir.

B

Oh I was was I, see the into something. I was right.

B

Okay, let's run this again, so not really because it's a rebel, so what I am what I'm showing you here like? So that is kind of like you want to say so, one of the things we're doing which this command here does it says, run this like Glen see documents, log stream, dot, script, write long screamed long, a stream dot script is just a text file that contains a bunch of commands that this that the applique that the notice, exactly as you would type them at the command line right so immediate, has set base address.

B

It has set header, you can see it echoing the commands it run, so this is literally line by line. What is in log screamed script, says: set base address to this Asia website set this authorization, header set the and then it does it get against the log stream API, and so because the log stream API is streaming.

B

What this, what might, what the repple is now doing, is actually streaming the logs from my app service logs log endpoint nice, so if I had, if we had actually deployed an azure app service, an app to this Asia rep service and hit it, you would see the application logs appearing in here, and you can see how it's said. All I've got no logs in the past minute. So as it's like streaming our logs into the repple right.

B

So if you're scripting question, you could kind of do it via this run, command, I, don't know we don't have any real plans to like make it. So you could call it in like a shell script over and over again with various arguments to make it work. It's not something we've really played with, because we're focusing on the kind of rapid interactivity part of it right now we're not trying to replace curl well. This is kind of a this.

B

This tool is like, if you put curl and double you, get, and postman and flan fiddler and like Wireshark in a blender and you kind of hit blend and pour something out that has little bits of all of those, but not the control extent of any of them. That's kind of what this is, and it's kind of designed to get you a bunch of the way so that, for all your comments asks you won't have to reach for those more advanced tools, but it's not designed to kind of individually replace any of them right right.

B

These money at least not right off the bat, maybe eventually it will get closer to replacing some of them as it evolves over time, but at least right now. So one of the other things that's cool here is I. Did ctrl C instead of instead of instead of what I wanted to do. I think just enter all right.

D

So actually fix the streaming.

B

Right yeah, so the longest command will go away now because I'm not running my branch but run C uses currency, okay, minutes documents.

B

Okay, so this is connecting once again and leaking no love my ex credentials, but what this lets us do is a fewer there's, a few other interesting things, I'm connected and authenticated with the crew site of the data web app. That has nothing deployed to it. If I can do things I like get what is it eight guys, slash processes, there's the processes that are running in my crew site right well,.

A

Oh right, because that's our just exposed because.

B

They're just exposed once I'm authenticated to the to the cumin point right.

A

B

Pretty cool, so um if so another answer to like some of your to one of the questions about like what would I what could I use this for is I. Have this goal or one of the things I want to do before we ship? This is I'd like to be able to do stuff. Like you know, said, base address said: base API, github.com right.

B

And then this would be like HTTP right, because that's what they do and then, like sets user agents set header set, had a user agents John because they need a user agent and it said, had authorization token authorization to be. You know my access token and then just browse the github. Api is and discover what I want to do with them, pull back some JSON and then maybe copy and paste that you, okay.

A

When you're using the set command, those are just standard, Windows, environment variables, right, oh they're,.

B

Commands for this ripple for the show so.

A

Are you sure, is that, like pseudo code or how is it know,.

B

That this is like running rancid is it. This is the way, the there's what the repple does right. It gives us the equation for.

A

B

Common header names and the ability to the ability to set them so that every request that it makes will make that will set those headers first right.

A

Okay and the indication there is that I'm in that repple I've got the the URL and I've got the tilde there. That's showing that's yeah.

B

And like we'll we'll play around with this right like Isis, we might. This might act like a normal bar, so as you're sitting around it'll actually show the extra concatenation pieces and well we'll play around with all the do. Various experiences for this there's some amount of you know command line stuff that we have to copyright. It'll be nice to be able to say, get slash, API, slash food to test something great it'll would like execute, API foo and then write the response out to test out.

B

You know- or maybe, like you know, twos the response body and one is maybe the headers and then you can go headers dot, txt and then you can go to like body. That's a response that God takes T or something right, and so like that. That command doesn't work, but the sorts of things we're talking about is features of the future right. So you can execute commands and execute commands and see the see the results back into files do some of the things you would expect from something like things like that.

B

A

You're showing code that, like you, you're just writing like last night and this morning, even what? Where is this something where, where is this ad as far as people watching, if they want to start playing with it or anything, is it so.

B

We intend to put it onto the github at some point in the not-too-distant future. Right now, it's just in like myk's myk's github account private repos. Whilst he was started working on it, we'll make it public in in the normal, in the normal I spin it one of the normal repos, then it'll get built and put onto my head and you'll be able to download it level.

B

Two like us as you do, as you can, with any of our other kind of nightly stuff that'll happening very very soon, and then once does all kind of tweet about it. I guess, and you guys can you guys can see it it'll be you'll, see the new repo up here and stuff like that as well. If not a new reap I suspect it'll actually just go into the existing repo. Where we have.

B

We have four other tools like where don't out watch lives, for example, and it'll just get back into where tool as part of that, and so then, in order to try it out, it'll be like yeah. I've got an app tool, install SG, you know, and the asp net market feed like that, and that would install it for you.

B

A

So you're showing it's a global tool, you're, obviously doing some some interesting stuff. As far as command-line parsing is there.

E

A

There can you show what you're, using for the command-line parsing stuff Sean.

B

I can give you two listen to that I'm.

A

Just curious because there's different ways of doing this and I know, we've got some better kind of more formal ways of doing this recently, but.

A

That's a harder problem than it should be a bit like if you want to show help and all that kind of stuff right, yeah.

E

D

So the purser, who played the core parsers, actually defined in the the sort of the the bass rebel things you have, the ability to sort of swap out versus anything implements I parser of some first results is acceptable for for the core rebel. So essentially one of those signatures has taken spring and a carer position, so I can actually isolate worth care and cure. It is within particular section of our stacks in this sort of peels through figures, I've learned, probe, back voted regions puts them together that kind of stuff returns at a core result.

D

If you want to do more interesting stuff with how sparse we can derive from this or or something like that, actually talking with another team that wants to see if their command line parsing stuff can come in here in suit these as suit these needs as well. So the reason we haven't really jumped down, one of the other ones that we have available to us right now is taking into account the care position, so I think you're part of the way through Germany a tab like you to take into account.

D

What's what's before the carrot, when you hit the tab to figure out what the acceptable cool.

A

Yeah is there I've been randomly throwing questions at you, they did did I. Let you get through that all the stuff you'd wanted to demo.

B

Yeah, I guess I think so it's done. It's not super feature-rich. Yet so that's basically showing we kind of we didn't run through all of the verbs. But you get the idea, so yeah I think that's all the all the stuff, this UI command. If you have swag, you I will just pop the browser. This, like a UI in it's kind of cool, but my app doesn't have swagger you wanna, say.

C

A

What is speaking a swagger UI like that's in order to light up a lot of stuff, you need swagger. So when I worked with, you I think I ended up just using n swag Yeah right I called in the n swag library. You.

B

Know sounds great. It's and there's.

A

That that's kind of a yeah.

B

So in my in this application, I've been using, I pulling swashbuckle, but it doesn't matter it's how you get the open, API doc. As long as you get one, it doesn't actually even matter if the open API doc is generate is part of the app like you could. You could give us an open, API doc from somewhere else.

E

B

So if you're kind of swagger first will you generate API doc, and then you write code from that or you generate code from that. Then you could, you know, connect to your API and then get the swagger doc from wherever the swagger Doc's are stored and things like that and yeah. So, however, you get the doc the tool just needs. It needs one. If you want to get some of the features. Okay,.

A

So we had, we had a question on how you how the header autocomplete works and some of that, but so.

D

It's it's it's pretty pertaining when you're in the header position. It looks at a hard-coded list of common headers that I got from Wikipedia, okay, yeah.

B

Yeah, so the the set header command can accept arbitrary, arbitrary keys and names, names and values, and we just know of common ones that you can, that you might be you probably one. That's all.

A

Okay, yeah. Let me see, of course, there's a question on. Can I generate a client based on this yeah.

B

So we do have a client generation like feature. They talked about four to two: we hadn't we hadn't talked about it being added to the repple, but yeah we'll see how that plays out and then whether or not it makes sense when the feature gets kind of fleshed out long. I'm not saying no very.

A

Cool, okay, so Wow so I think we talked about kind of where you're at and next steps and stuff. If there are things people watching or interest to keep, you know have feedback or questions or whatever. What's what's good so.

B

Right now you just have to kind of talk to me. The he go guy who wants to see my ligature fun.

B

The the best way will probably be issues they can talk to me on Twitter. If they want I, don't know if mike has a Twitter account, but if he does yeah he does do. I you go and I'll find out what his Twitter handle is and mention him. Whenever someone talks to me about it once we move it into a repo github is always the best it's good to kind of log issues and stuff on it. For now, because we haven't actually made given it a final home.

B

Yet it's a little bit awkward it'll, probably be the tools, the repo in there, a spirit repo that has the watcher and stuff in there already. So, if you really want to ask a github drop- and you have issue- you could probably go drop it there and I'll find it, but I'll find it because Nate will tell me those there and he will complain because there's no code there to go with the issue yet and.

A

I keep saying this until someone tells me to cut it out, but if you're not sure where to file an issue, I think the general guidance is, you can put it in home and route it or delete it. If needed, but I mean people will tell you if I'll move it to the right place. Yeah.

B

We have a few people that kind of go through homes. Looking for stuff, we also have the general issue for the two to waive so barring that you could also kind of go and drop a comment there. Damien and I are both assigned as owners to it. We could probably have some sort of brief conversation there. She really want great.

A

Yeah well I'm out of questions I, don't know if two and and I'm there kind of petering down over here. If people are asking about fonts and stuff, is there anything.

B

Yeah every time I've displayed my screen. Someone has asked me about my fonts and it's.

A

Funny I use the same one and I forget to show it to people, but I, really like it's funny, because I just get used to it, but those ligatures. What.

B

Actually, what I actually want is a look at your font. That gives me this, but doesn't give me this yeah.

A

B

Right so like I love, I love, the lambda, the I love the I love this not as keen on this, or in particular, that one's okay. But yes, there was a fund I used to use that had just a slight little break between these two, so they were closer together than the normal equals equals, but that was still separated, and so it's oh yeah I was I was so. It was kind of like that right, I'm, stashed, double equals equals, but everything else I like about it. There's.

A

Some some interesting ones too, with all the power line and and some interest actually well, while we're at it. Do you want to show so in your console? You have you've, got the power line stuff set up too right.

A

So that's that's I! Don't know! If that's new for people, where did you go for info yeah,.

B

I can't remember I, search for like power lines, power lines and or something this is power, Dell, we're running kind of the power line, stuff that you normally oh, oh, it's using. Oh, my, oh, my posh I, think which is kind of a clone or vou miser SH for for PowerShell, because I use it at H and O. My as my age or my Zed SH on Mac and Linux and I was looking for how to looking to set up something similar on PowerShell on Windows. That's how I ended up here that.

A

Is actually really interesting for me because I've gone through and done it the the thing where you follow a walk through and you feel like you're back in I, don't know like trying to crack a video game in 2001 or so it like it's R, it's it's all these 90 step. Things now install this now install this and.

B

A

It doesn't work you're like so.

B

Might be a wash tries to put a few bar bunch of that together in one go, it's still still not such a trivial, but it's not as hard as some of them. One other question was any plans to add the facility to load test an endpoint straight from the ripple, not right now. I think that's something it's interesting like it's obviously possible. It's not inconceivable, I, think for the first version, or so I, probably wouldn't try and bake it in and just let you use the other tools that you have but yeah.

B

We could do that. I, don't have a plan to do it right now, but it's not not inconceivable right. You could totally see how it would work.

B

A

All right, well, I think this is a good spot to wrap up I'm missing like like I'm a big fan. I, you know, I was excited. I was nagging you to try and get set up to show this.

E

A

Recent conference I think it's really.

E

A

And and- and it's it's a great example of like wiring, some things together like this is I like global tools are really cool for lighting up. You know like something I don't want to have to install with every application, something I'm solving the same problems over and over. This is great to be able to do and.

E

A

And then I love kind of as you're going through the you know, 1 to 2 thing of kind of looking at what are common developer problems and common. You know, pain, points and kind of digging down into those making my job easier as I try and describe some of the like here's. Why you want to one and and it's from looking at it's, it's the it's solving all these kind of common pain points even down to it like one with the quicker builds and stuff right. It's just make my day easier, yeah.

B

Yeah, that's right! That's that's the idea right! It's like I'd like to make it I'd like to make it further away before you have to go and reach for some of the other tools like before you have to fire up the postman electron app or the fiddler. Like thing I'd like to move it a little bit further away, you make it more accessible for people who are potentially new to programming as well.

B

If it's just there and just available I, don't already know about this plethora of stuff out there we can kind of have a more like a more gradual than your learning curve for those people instead of like okay, now, I've pressed f5 now go now. Go up here. Go install all these things and find all this stuff right. Eventually, they've.

E

B

To get there and I'll learn all that stuff, but do they have to learn it like in the first three minutes of learning? Out of writing a dotnet application exactly.

A

Like thinking through, if I'm reading a doc like getting started, I want I, don't want a bunch of fetch quests of like go install this go get this get this tool now you need to learn this weird syntax for this other, we'll all that stuff, it's great to be able to just say, like here's, five steps of you know getting this ready and now, if you want to go deeper, you can. But yes,.

E

A

Your disorder yeah awesome all right. Well, this was great thanks. A bunch thanks.

B

A

We need to do the dramatic zoom out humanik.

B

Zooming out Wow, okay, this is this, isn't it. This is an important moment, romantic zoo down, dramatic zoom and so dramatic.