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From YouTube: Visual Studio: .NET Community Standup - May 30th 2019 - Unity Game Development with Visual Studio

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Join members from the .NET teams for our community standup covering great community contributions for Visual Studio, Visual Studio Code, Visual Studio for Mac, Roslyn, Extensions, and more!

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And we're pausing and we're live I hope.

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Good morning, good afternoon and good night.

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Loading on the livestream, okay, cool hi, welcome to dotnet community stand up, I'm kendra havens. Your host this week is the tooling week, so we talk all about different tools in the visual studio. Family I'm very excited about our guest today, John. Why don't you introduce yourself.

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Okay thanks: oh I'm, John and I'm a program manager on the Visual Studio for Mac team. But my focus right now is the tools for unity, so in both visual studio and Visual Studio for Mac excellent.

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And Cody my co-host, you know well, yes,.

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I am still Cody, so try not to be yeah so still doing videos for Mac side. We got some cool stuff to talk about to you, so yeah.

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So before we dive into that, let's go over some community news, great um so as always, keep an eye on the dotnet blog in the Visual Studio blog for updates that have happened to our tools. Two things I wanted to talk about in Visual Studio is that we had a Visual Studio extensibility day, which was a pretty big success. So that's where Mads Christensen, our extensibility p.m. invited.

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You know all of his best friends, no 16 attendees on to campus, and they went over extension since sort of like a collaborative manner with their partners, and they had talks and demoed a lot of tools. It's a cool blog post check it out. We got to learn a lot about like what pinpoints people are currently experiencing and yeah. Anyway. Mads is an all-star another big deal of Visual Studio 2019 version.

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16.1 went GA as well as 16.2 preview, one so hop on that 2019 train it'll only get better, with every minor release and more stable with every minor release. So, just so you know not the brand-new 16.0 shininess, it's aged a bit or in 16.1 now, um so oh I also want to call out massive performance gains in Visual, Studio 2019. Just in general. This is our lake performance slide. We're trying to bring attention to. Let's see, just really start pips were off there we go now.

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You can see us react to things um so start up one and a half times better. We're really excited about these across the board. Actually John. Since you're going to be talking about unity today, how was the unity Explorer, + visual studio? Have you experienced any performance improvements in 2019.

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And well I think they mostly started in like 15.8, and we started making some serious improvements. So we saw like somewhere around 2x performance improvements in.

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Loading projects.

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Since 15 8 and then we've been kind of incrementing on that in 15, 9 and I think the biggest performance improvements that are coming atop my mind, 4 for 16, are our visual studio. 20 are for building projects, so there was kind of a feature like in Visual Studio with unity projects. When you build a project, we were doing like a full Visual Studio build, but that really isn't necessary, since the unity is actually doing the build and the Visual Studio build part really wasn't used.

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So we kind of got rid of that, and now we'll just rely on the unity build. So it kind of saves some time there. So yeah.

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There's no longer any.

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Any unnecessary things happening there, so wonderful.

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Ok and a quick shout-out to my personal goals, our major a test, Explorer UI improvements in the 16.2 preview 1, so we have like new filters and we have adjustable and customizable columns that you can also also filter on. We have target frameworks listed. So if you have a multi target a test, it's way easier to run test is targeting which framework and yeah totally new group by its multi-tiered, its customizable completely. You can design everything. That's in an individual tier really excited about that.

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It's definitely a good reason to get onto the preview teen and be an early adopter and give us feedback, because it is a very big change and we need a lot of big that you guys know how it is another exciting thing I always want to call out. We have this visual studio, pull request extension. It is awesome. I really want more people to use it. I want it to be a part of the default tools. um This enables you to easily basically submit and review pull requests still in visual Studios.

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You don't actually have to navigate to your browser. That is your view on your web server and everything like that. So you can even like pull your co-workers branch onto your machine. It gives you a really rich, like you can still debug, you can still get intellisense. You still get a navigation but you're inside of there PR. So it's a really great review experience and, let's pull request. Extension for visual studio, okay, love.

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Did you have a couple news items that you wanted to call out yeah.

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So we have the latest update of the preview for visitor for Mac coming out on. Don't quote me anybody, but I'm going to say it live.

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I didn't see which month so it might be, it might be July I'm, every August. The cool thing about this one is that it is part of 8.1 series shows 8.1 preview, 4, which will sorry preview 3, which will include the new editor by default. So this new editor that we've talked about a few times already. It is now at the point where we think that it is stable, performed enough to replace the old editor. We've also added some great new features to it. We have inline, live all and support.

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So if you have a quick fix, suggest you have to go over to the margin, we have a new go to line number UI, which looks all spotlight and Matt uses the same actual. You know us code that.

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Yeah, exactly good, you know, go to.

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Line there we have new multi karat options that you can. You can use to have these really crazy, multi-carrier, editing experiences and, though that's pretty important for you to do devs to.

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About multi karat, like a design visual studio for over a year, I definitely demoed it at last build but like we just used it like subtly. At this build and people are like. Oh in the audience.

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To I was getting excited about that, then the cool thing is that you know what she demoed at build this year. We actually, you know not just a bar code from those Chia. What we borrowed code from Visual Studio for max was actually.

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The exact same feature.

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Set so previously in the eight Auto preview and they dunno series, all we could really do is set a few carrots. Now you can do a bunch of things like rotating carrots around and all these super power user features that we have in Visual Studio windows. Now I'm just go for mac, so it's a pretty exciting future set that we have coming out, but all in all, just check out the preview channel.

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If you're on video for max starting on Tuesday, ish and download the latest update- and let us know how it goes- I came just like Indra said: we really need all this feedback that we can get, because it is a preview feature right now. We want to make it a stable feature, so any issues you're having please let me know, file developer community shoot me a tweet. You know whatever you want to do, fly out to Portland and say hi to me and tell me either way, just whatever gets.

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You were like I check, developer community tickets every single day and you're, like the person behind it. I might check them once a week. It.

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Was fun but I'll dive in a.

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Block of time and everything but oof every day it is good stuff, awesomely, responsive yeah,.

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Well, you know, that's a try to make sure that we are feedback driven, so issues you run into anything at all. Just let us know yeah just check it out. I think is gonna be pretty great and um we have some vyas life coming up in a little bit.

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Oh gosh won't that I.

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Am years really is scared to speak? Envious live but I'm going to be doing that anyway in August at the Microsoft campus. So if we want to hear some stuff about vias for Mac sign up for that session and go to be alive and we're gonna have a whole presentation on vias for Mac from poles to Bush.

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Is your talk on I missed it? It's.

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It's all the way, abuse from I think it I gotta, look up the title: it is Visual Studio from Mac from I think get to push or something. Let me see that's reason.

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Enough to go see, Cody live to.

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Try to remember my speeches about exactly.

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Genda speakers, it is a very catchy title to so catchy. They can't remember it. This is dramatic from check out to publish.

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It's gonna cover the whole lifecycle from you know, with mobile apps done at core apps from you know from when you start to. When you publish it all the way through put it on the App Store or on a share wherever you want to publish it, so it should be fun. I might you know I might.

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Yes, I I think that was last year. I believe I loved it just so you know there's a lot of.

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Yeah they tend to be experts going to the conference and they'll. Let you have it if they don't agree with design decisions or the history that we've done, and it's always super educational, but in like a good way. Yeah.

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It's fun, like you know, yeah.

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They're, no late yeah, it's a really great audience: cool. Okay. So enough talk chitchat, let's get into some code today! John do you want to give us an intro to unity and what we're going to be looking at? Oh we're.

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Supposed to look at code yeah.

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What is unity by the way we keep on talking about it like it's, the coolest thing well,.

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It is the coolest thing, at least in my world, so unity is how do you even describe it? Let me think it is a content creation platform, probably the best way that people know about it is it's rooted in game, development and I think that's kind of where it started, but it's used in a lot of other industries today, but my focus and my interests have always been with game development, so that's kind of how I think of unity and that's what I use unity for.

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So unity is a way to make 3d and 2d games and many other experiences, including mixed reality. We can using hololens or any of the mixed reality. Headsets you can publish to I, don't know they have like 30 some publishing targets. You know like Xbox and Playstation and all the desktop and mobile platforms, and then things like switch and Nintendo products, there's all sorts of targets there, so there's tons of stuff so yeah it's a really big platform for creating content.

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However, you want to envision that, whether it's games or movies, or something for automotive or maybe an expo experience something at a conference thing like that. So a.

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Hololens f, yeah.

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Fact, that's yes, I mean you make. You know one's.

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Apps with unity, so perfect, yeah.

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Super super extensible and it is I, wish I work on worked on games all day. Come on, it's really cool. Well, so did you want us to go? Do you want to give us a brief overview of sort of what the tools are? What development with unity, kind of looks like sure.

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Let me assure once.

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You, like an intro sure.

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Let me share my screen: yeah, that's not that's, not the right screen. There. We go.

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All right, a second to figure out stream deck there we go tanks, okay,.

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So this is the unit on.

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Moving on well.

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Hopefully, this demo be equally in quality as the jokes, so this is the unity editor, and this is kind of where you start with projects, so you can create new projects and they open up in the unity editor, and this kind of gives you a view into your project. So I'll just quickly highlight the UI, if you're already familiar with it great, if you're, not so on the left side, you have hierarchy which is kind of like a solution Explorer in Visual Studio or you kind of see, objects and you can click on them.

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And then the details show up in the inspector and you can think of that kind of like the properties window. And then you can. You know you can dock these things wherever you want. This is totally customizable. You are. This is just the way I like it to be set up I'm.

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So you have your scene view, which is where you can kind of move around your 3d objects or 2d objects and kind of move things around and position design your level and you have the game scene, which is a view into what it looks like through the camera that you have in your game and also, if you run your game. This is where you'll see like a real time play of it.

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So you can kind of play your game right here inside the editor, rather than have to like fully build it and run an exe or something like that, and then you have your project windows down here shows all your files from you know: c-sharp scripts to shader files to 3d models. Everything is in here and you organize it into folders.

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Those files will define, like the objects that you have present in your game.

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Sometimes that's where that is so. You can have things like there's, you know definitions for maybe what an object is and customize it. You might also have your scripts in here. So if you look here, you can see. I have some scripts in this sample called tank health and tank movement, tank shooting and one of the common patterns is to have things like this in a folder named scripts. So it's really easy to navigate between them, and this for the sea shark comes in right up in the scripts and what not exactly episodes rate you.

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Traditionally, you would customize all the behavior of your game using c-sharp scripts and I'll. Give you a quick look into what that looks like and then kind of how that ties in with visual studios. So we switch over to visual studio and I.

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Have one of the game are one of the scripts open here called game manager? And so, if you know, you're familiar with Visual, Studio you'll feel right at home, and the way this works is anytime. You want to edit your c-sharp script files or debug them, and you can jump over into Visual Studio and write your code with all the productivity.

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You know features that you're used to in Visual Studio, and then we package a couple things as part of the tools for unity into Visual Studio. That gives you some additional enhancements like debugging support, and we have this window over here called the unity project Explorer, which is like the solution Explorer, but it filters only on the things that are important in a unity context.

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So with unity projects you don't necessarily need to see a solution, file or project file or a lot of those other things that you would normally look at in a c-sharp project. Instead, what we do here is we copy what the unity editor shows. So if you don't connect over here, you see this assets folder. So we kind of read like we basically showed this inside of Visual Studio. So you don't have to keep jumping back and forth.

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So you can quickly like one to one reference, your scripts and be able to go back and forth without switching between unity and Visual Studio. Oh sure,.

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That's great I, actually I, remember talking with marina GOG I, think she's working with some students using unity and she was kind of I. Think I forget how she phrased it, but she was asking them about c-sharp and they were kind of like. Oh, we we don't use c-sharp and she's like, but your unity developer is like you, that's a c-sharp script right there and they're like oh, that's what yeah, I guess: I'm a dinette developer. I, don't know like it was an afterthought that um they they actually were.

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You seen c-sharp, um which is cool, I, think people would have for a long time kind of thought as well at least I thought of c-sharp as sort of them. The professional language like you use java in school and when you got your first job or something that's when you started and on dotnet and c-sharp, but here it's really cool that, like students and indie game developers and people like hobbyists and stuff kind of that exposure through unity, yeah.

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Actually, that's a really good point because, as I talk to game developers, I find that they're, not at least they don't articulate themselves as dotnet developers and they're really not focused on c-sharp, like c-sharp, is just kind of a means to an end and into you know how they're writing their code, but there's a lot of programming patterns and idioms in unity, projects that are typical throughout the rest of the dotnet ecosystem.

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So you know, as we look at the tools for unity, we're trying to identify what those are and then make the IDE aware of those types of things. So that way we can give like more specific help to unity projects and not just generic c-sharp up that may not apply. So that's something that we're investigating and try to try to just make the overall experience of writing c-sharp for unity projects specifically better. That's.

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Great yeah I think it's another case of us. Just trying to I guess be inclusive and go meet developers where they are, instead of trying to convince them that their dotnet developers, a unity developers, cool right.

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So one other thing I could show is just just show a little bit. I saw. Oh, you know what let me highlight one thing so something we talked about in March at the game developer conference was, we were showing developers Intelli code, which I believe you've talked about this before.

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So what I learned was that not a lot of uni developers knew what that was so until a code works for unity projects as well, and so that's like the AI, assisted intellisense and so at GDC back in March that team made unity projects work with Intelli code by default. So when you install the until a code extension or you have 2019 and you have Intelli code then well, let me find something interesting here that I can show.

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Dot length anything on a string, yeah.

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I'm looking for something maybe specific,.

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Yes, okay, yeah.

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So that's kind of, let me try it. Let me see if this is the.

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Here we go, so let me get rid of this, so here's like a unity, specific API, the scene manager and you can see that the intellicus suggestions are the stars, and these are unity. Specific api's, so they've trained this on a bunch of unity, samples and code that we were able to get AB unity projects to try and give AI powered suggestions for unity, specific api's by default, which is really cool I'm. So you can be even more productive as you need developer just by installing this extension right off the bat. Okay.

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So your extension contains an intelecom ATO that is specifically trained for unity projects.

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That's great yeah.

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That's really cool, so you get it by default. Yeah.

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Can also train it on you know games. So one of the challenges we have with Intel ACOTA is that game developers are very secretive about their game code, which totally makes sense yeah yeah exactly so. It makes sense and that same that same type of problem is in the enterprise world as well, but the challenge with unity projects is, you know, you need a lot of game code, a good quality game code to train like a really good model for this AI powered intellisense.

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So that was always a challenge, but we got to a point where we had enough code to do kind of a base. So you'll get some suggestions for a lot of the unity of you guys, but what you can also do is you can?

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If you already have a unity project, you can train it on your own models as well, so this window here for Intel akkad, so you can create you- can create a new model based on your own code and so you'll get AI suggestions based off of your code or what I did is I downloaded this FPS sample, which is a large unity sample. That's designed to be it was seen as a sample, but it's created with like real-world practices, and it's really it's huge. It's like 18 gigs.

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So it's a lot of codes, though yeah you can see it covered. You know almost 2500 classes here, so I can use this sample now on any of my unity project. So I get a lot of cool suggestions based off of that code. That you know aren't aren't my doing. Those are from you know, industry experts writing that code. So so you can. You can share these models, but with other people as well. So it's really cool that you can use it with unity projects very.

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Cool, it's really fun to see tools like this integrate into like other scenarios, that's very cool.

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I'm pretty excited about yeah.

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What else did you want to show in your tour unity.

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Well, I guess it's just important to highlight too, if you're not familiar with unity and kind of you know using Visual Studio. Obviously you probably want to debug something so the tools for unity allow you to do that. You can see the debug button up. Here is changed now it says attach to unity.

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So the way this works is you can press this and will start a debug session, and you can go back to unity and you can play your game and once the game launches then you'll actually be able to use breakpoints and step through your code, just as you would for any other project types. So it's you know everything you would expect using Visual Studio, but you can debug your game logic that way too. So it's really powerful.

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So there's everything you would expect in.

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The same is true for Mac as well. Alright, if you using unity, reveals to do for Maggie get the same kind of handoff integration. There yeah.

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Exactly yep, so yeah everything is the same there on Mac, the one exception would be what I just talked about with Intel Akkad. Yet it's because Intelli codes not NBS for Mac. Yet yet.

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In the future,.

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So debugging and the unity project explore all of those tools for unity, features they're the same one cool thing we recently did I believe it was in the 8.0 release of BS for Mac is we took the debugger that we have for tools for unity on Windows, which has been around for a long time and it's been proven to be pretty stable and performant, and we migrated that over two Bs for Mac.

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So we got all those performance, improvements and stability improved that we've had for a couple years now and we are able to bring them to the max side to try and bring a little bit of parity to that experience and that that comes from the feedback we heard from developers on developer community and on the forums and just in one-on-one conversations that the debugging experience was not great on Mac for unity projects. So we wanted to fix that and obviously make it better. So that's what we did.

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I'm, actually, just like super curious: um can we demo this game at all and, like yeah play it sure.

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Let me play this so.

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This is a sample, that's freely available on unities asset store, so you just create a project and import the assets, and you get all this code on all the models and you can just basically press play and you can play it and then there's a tutorial series that actually lets you kind of customize it and build it as you go through it. Oh.

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Forgot I was debugging here, where's.

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The tutorial series, if I, wanted to get started with unity in c-sharp.

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I will show you, let me let me see where this game is for my tank set. Oh.

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They're really right, there kind of here comes my tiny little tanks, yeah.

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Controlling that with your mouth yeah.

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That's my keyboard yeah, my C word: yeah something's.

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A little funky.

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With with the resolution, because I changed the resolution here, but.

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So this game is like a two-player, co-op game and so half my keyboard is to control the red tank and the other half of my keyboard is to control the blue tank.

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Of shoot each other back and forth, and it's a pretty cool.

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Sample and yeah yeah.

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It's fun and the tutorial series so and the asset store. Let me see if I can load this quick and the SSR is a really cool way to get lots of assets so like models or scripts are all sorts of stuff to kind of bootstrap a unity project really fast. So if you have an idea for a game and you're like well I'm, not an artist check out the asset store, there's lots of really good stuff there for either free or cheap, and let me show you where this so here's the tanks tutorial.

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So this is what you kind of import into your project and you can think of it. Sort of like a really big nougat package. You know it's almost 50 Meg's, because it includes models and other non code files. So you import that and then, once that's in your project, most astute orioles come with a readme file which show you exactly how to get to the tutorial.

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So you can open this in the browser and kind of go through it, and it can walk you through how to implement health on your tanks, how to implement, shooting how to implement movement. So there's lots of great resources there to get started, so you don't have to be intimidated by game development. There's unity has already provided that's that kind of stuff. That's.

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Great and we got a question in chat- it's sort of like um we've always made a lot of workshops or tutorials for kind of newbies. Do we have any more like intermediate or advanced tutorials, that you would recommend.

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So from the Microsoft, and we don't that I know of but on unities website they have this whole platform called learn and they have tracks for beginner and intermediate and maybe advanced I. Don't remember but I know, there's some really good intermediate I'm serious, so I would definitely check out their site. You can just go to unity, I think unity3d, comm, slash, learn and check out. They have a whole kind of like elearning platform that lets you pick up some really cool samples. I, remember one: that's I'm.

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There right now, I'll switch to my screen. Yeah.

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Go ahead, unity.

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Comm slash, learn yeah.

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So there's like courses, there's a really cool to tour to make like a 3d like hack and slash action, game kind of like if you think, like a hablo or something like that like in the style of that and it kind of walks you through the whole process. But it provides you with all the artwork too, which is really nice. Oh.

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Gosh yeah, the artwork that you like that unity and everyone has on their landing pages. It's always stunning and.

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I think one thing that I think that that John touched on quickly I think is important. To talk about is that unity is a great way to really introduce yourself to some of the paradigms that game development or what not, because it does have these introductory samples and more intermediate and advanced samples.

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But it's you know, game development imitating once you like load up this, you know IDE and there's so many different areas, but if you, you know, use these assets and use these resources available to you, you can really get going quickly like the tank sample you get quickly, you know just to change the color of the tank or to change. You know one of the assets around or just something minor that changes the way of the game, and you can learn step by step that way too.

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So it's a good way to get started with something that is, you know, very dense, subject: stuff, that's very, very advanced! Really it's one of the more advanced you know realms of software development, so I think think.

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Offers great things.

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Like objects planning just putting your mind in a 3d space with lighting and shading, and then you have like.

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And game mechanics- and it's just a lot to take in I, think for any a single game, but your game can be as like simple as you need it to be so I'm glad we have a bunch of beginner tutorials out there for kind of tackling each section. That makes a game really good alone. ah Super cool.

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Yeah I spent a week making tic-tac-toe yeah not solid, but you know and to be fair, it was not just like tic-tac-toe that maybe took me two hours but to make a multiplayer tic-tac-toe game. It just starts to snowball yeah.

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It's like okay,.

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Well now I need authentication now I need to login and now I need to you know: synchronize objects be over the network between mobile devices and then I got to publish the mobile and it just becomes the you know. Normal software engineering challenges not just game development challenges. It does get complicated, fast, yeah.

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Cool, um did you have anything else you wanted to show and your screen I can switch back to.

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Let me highlight one thing: so one thing I forgot, the show ID mentioned I was gonna about what I didn't show it. So I go back to visual studio, so something else we talked about at GDC that developers thought was really cool that they didn't know worked for unity projects. Is you can use a visual studio live share and have you talked about live share? I. Imagine you have.

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I'm not sure if we've demoed it in our in this in the standup we've.

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It maybe a little okay.

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So live share is a way to do like real-time collaboration inside your IDE for those that are not familiar with it, so you can think like if you were using some online doc editor and you can see everybody's cursor and you can all edit text at the same time. That's kind of what live share is so you can do the same thing, but just clicking this live share. Button up here, you'll get a link that you can share with a colleague or a friend. Do.

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Work live sorry, I always like to up mistakes.

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Hey we'll do it live you go into the chat here. Where is it yeah.

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I'll switch so.

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Confuse because I'm seeing yeah I'm seeing so many screens.

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Click on your lives here it alights I, guess: I'll start it in yes,.

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You don't want to work just.

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Everybody's, you know, Canada doesn't have unity installed and all really correct, like it sound.

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On my computer she's.

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Unity 300 computer, let's see when we hop over to her screen. If you know and.

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Like James.

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Is joining it to hear it yeah.

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Here we go, Kendra and James are both in it. Oh.

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You know just post things in to chance.

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See yeah your cursor I'll switch to my screen and you can probably see mine mine down there. All.

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Highlight stuff.

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Super cool James get.

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Out of the way.

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Believe can can kyndra launch at the bug session on your computer. Oh.

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Where I'm already in a debug section right.

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This is my screen: everyone. um Yes, so I already see these stop debugging and break all steps that I'm seeing that I'm getting because I joined while John was still in a debug session. Let.

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Me, let me run the unity game and we'll see if we can step through. So are you able to step through the code here.

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Oh I switch back to your screen. I'll switch back to mine, I'm glad I'm using the blue theme. So you know it's me uh yeah. It looks like so there's the debug breakpoint that you set on my screen and I can go up here and step into ya step.

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Can see you changing that, so that's cool! You can kind of debug your game logic, yeah.

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A colleague and they don't have to have all of your source code. They don't even have to have unity installed.

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And they get you, they even get your Intel akkad. So if you have an that, if you have your your you, you know your am AI model trained on your computer. John Kendra can get the benefits of that if she needs to write a quick line of code for you or something as well. So it's really powerful for this. You know this collaborative thing and it's we didn't plan this, and although this is.

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Moment one thing I wanted to call out that I also love about live sharing. Now we're just on a live share. Parade is I, can actually um edit her go around and navigate to completely other things that John isn't currently working on. So I can like explore his code structure if I'm like thinking about something else or we're both trying to debug a single issue. Even though I have none of his code on my machine, so cool okay, it.

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Is really cool? That's.

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That's super secure. It's like it's a direct connection, sis not sure your code across you know the scary internet. Anything it's just like yeah.

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Here's a connection, I won't have it's good anymore, but yeah, so I can go somewhere else and then, if I, get lost or John is like. Oh come back to like what I'm looking at I can just click on his icon up here and go back to following John for where his cursor is and where he's navigated to so it's just it's a super smooth experience. I like it. It.

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Really is, and it works with other projects too, but what we found is that unity developers didn't know about this, and so I wanted to share that, and just say you know what we were hearing was a lot of game development teams work remotely or they don't work in the same, even in the same location, they might work in an office, but maybe they don't work in the same location or does the whole team is remotely even a coastal world and debugging an issue just like in any other project type debugging issues.

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It becomes like this long cycle of. Let me send you something over slack or let me email, you or you know, send you some snippet and then trying to debug something- and this this helps solve that problem. So it's really powerful and you can share your debug sessions with unity projects. So definitely try that out.

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For the issues where it's just like, if you could just look at my screen, you would know if something was completely setup wrong and like it'd, be bugging so much. There's.

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No more using FaceTime to like pointed at your screen, like you see this, you know.

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Even though that's.

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Probably the better solution is.

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Honestly, really smooth I'm. It's crazy that just in like during my time, working at Microsoft I moved away from Skype and shared desktop there and sharing desktop when teams teams.

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Needs to have the annotation pin, that's like as though I shouldn't say that in that lab. But that's one of the best features.

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Team team team.

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Cool okay: do we cover everything? Is that it is that our live stream? We.

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Might have some questions out there from everybody? Oh yeah.

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um Let's see what we have in here, you.

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Do I want to go deeper into unity? Yes, always actually I can Loki brag I have use unity to develop with hololens. It only took me like an hour or two to set up the first tutorial and I borrowed hololens from Microsoft recruiter and yeah. It was fun. I got set up. I watched, Alex, Turner's, hololens tutorials, probably getting a little bit old nowadays, but um they're really helpful easy to follow when.

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This could point to is like oh, it is until I could work with your game code to with a custom model builder I'm gonna get that one over to John yeah.

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It does, and maybe I forgot to mention it, but what I had showed a little bit earlier, I believe was that I had downloaded a very large unity sample called the FPS sample. It's like 18 gigs and there's a lot of really high quality code in there, and it makes a good sample to train on so I trained a model on that code and then I can reuse that in any of the projects that I create.

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So I get a lot of awesome suggestions from people who are smarter than me and I don't have to do anything but click a button. So that's pretty awesome, so yeah, actually where's James, yeah.

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Completely custom, oh, that was from James James yeah. There.

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Was it was a seed question you say like in.

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The conversation guy and also you know.

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In the kind of loop Rebecca live share, as I said, you still get that model like Indra could get that model. I can get that model and vyas code on my Mac and be able to use a Nutella coda and helping him to bug a problem as well. So it's it really to share everything in the system and, like I said you know, you can, if you have a Mac user over at in your company, and you want to have them, do some stuff to PS code words.

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Surely support you know plugging into the unity session as well on Jon's machine. So it's a super powerful one. Does views come with unity, John, James you're doing all these like C questions is.

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Does vs come with unity so when you install a visual studio, there's an option to install the workload that I believe it's called game development with the unity and when you install that that gives you a couple things, it gives you the option to install unity and it gives you the tools for unity or when you install unity, which I believe is how most developers would acquire unity, there's an option to install Visual Studio, so there's kind of a reciprocation there so depending on.

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However, you, if you get one before the other, they both offer each other. So that makes it easy to get both and.

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Same with Mac as well, if you are doing the Mac installer, you know you can install unity on from the unity store wherever you get it and it will solve your Mac as well. So you get both bulbs there yeah.

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And for vs for Mac there's nothing! You have to do special to support it's included on Windows, it's a separate checkbox to install yes on Mac, it comes with it and is it free? Yes, it is free. There is a free tier. They have a pricing structure of unity. You know they have a licensing model, but there's a very generous free tier and then you can use Visual Studio community with it. It's.

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A great way, the free tier is again a great way to get started. If you are wanting to learn about game development, I think it's pretty full-featured, so you can really dive in and learn. You know more about.

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I think it's don't you know. Definitely don't quote me on this, but I agree. I, don't remember it being free up to a certain like I'm out.

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Of money with that, your company makes yeah okay, yeah.

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I, don't remember what that amount is, but it's pretty generous, especially so you can do a lot of development and even release full games with it I'm and then, once you hit a certain level of income, then you would probably switch over to pro or if there's features that you want with Pro. Then you'll have to go that route, but you can check out their page I. Think it's unity, comm, slash pricing.

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When you go to download it, it has like three little areas. You can check there, but can start with the free version for sure and go from there.

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You take your buddies over there. Okay.

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Here can I kind of develop a games for all platforms like Nintendo, Sony and others. Yeah I think that you know you need to support all those own of John ISM, there's some more details, exactly which platforms are supported.

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Well, it's actually I can't think of a platform on top of my head right now that isn't supported, though it supports a lot yeah. So the answer to that question is yes, you can for everything you mentioned pretty yes, yep. You can every everything and.

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Games that you create can be run on multiple different platforms. It's also the unity editor can work cross form as well like we were just talking about. If you have a Mac, you use vs for macro vs code to them to develop with it, but you can also download it on Windows. Obviously, it use Visual Studio for Windows, so you see sharp scripts yeah.

B

That's right, I think one of the things that you know John touched on earlier too, is about the enterprise applications to to unity. There are just game developments like if people like a real estate company or a home remodeling company showing a virtual living room. There's all these different applications. You can use with unity, II sort of content, modeling or you know, 3d modeling- that you want to do games is kind of like you know where it all started, but it's you can use it all sorts of places to I think yeah.

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They got a motive film animation and cinematics arcturus yeah. It's all those beautiful.

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Think that I used to film recently that use DVD, wasn't it I figure.

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Which one that was yeah there was the Bayeux max short films. So there was a Disney released. Some short animation films I forget where they published those, but they were all made with Union. They have kind of a case study about on their website, which is really cool and they talked about that at their conference last year. So I think they. What what award did films win? I forget what they.

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Won that award.

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Those are actors, oh, is it Emmys or something at RIT Amy's, his TV yeah I. Don't remember, but there's some award, that's a big deal and they mx1 that. So we.

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Should definitely look that up yeah yeah.

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I probably should know that, but I forget I'm.

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Just like drooling over the website over here, like facial, mocap, I guess so you can fill.

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Expressions and you applies to the characters gosh.

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Again, emoji, but in unity.

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It'd be like a really high def dinosaur, talking: okay, we're professionals.

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A lot they can do and there's so much that I don't even know I've been using unity for like five years on you know as a hobbyist and there's still so much of it. That I haven't even explored yet so I'm pretty excited as I keep learning.

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Yeah, that's how I feel about general visual studio development and dotnet, because this different home that there's so much that yeah.

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Is there I think.

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Says that aute.

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Studios also use unity for their short films check it yeah. So it's um it's I! Think learning you know if you want to dive into it. It's that's powerful, yeah.

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Alright I think on this note of excitement and limitless possibilities, we'll wrap up the livestream. It's always a good time to end and people are excited to go. Try it out great. You.

B

Know whatever you want to do, definitely.

A

Well, thank you John, so much for joining us and showing off the unity. I hope we have you back. Maybe we can dive into more complex things, sometimes cool. Thank you guys so much and thank you guys. Just thank everybody and talk.

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To you again, in a few weeks.

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Yeah bye, everyone.