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From YouTube: S303 - dvanced C#/PHP interoperability with PeachPie - Jakub Misek

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PHP and .NET make up over 90% of the entire internet. While PHP is ubiquitous and supremely popular, .NET is more robust, secure and performant. PeachPie compiler is a unique project that bridges the gap between the two platforms and allows developers to use the best of both worlds.

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Jacob, you are still with.

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We're gonna go ahead and zoom in I'm gonna figure out how to do this stream deck Jacob boom we're gonna zoom in where we zoom into today. I, never know where everyone's out there.

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All over the world, where are you at Jacob, you're,.

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In Prague, oh, my goodness, what a beautiful.

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Beautiful city, it's like like 11 a.m. so I'm, fine I, don't know how you are about I'm predicted.

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I'll, take it away.

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Are you I'll.

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See everyone later today.

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Yes, I'm I'm, going to show you a peach pie, compiler and some advanced interoperability features so features on how you can integrate c-sharp or any kind of dotnet dotnet project with a PHP which is pretty cool and gives you a lot of options on how you can improve or extend existing PHP projects or extend existing C sharp projects. It's a little bit of PHP.

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So let me start with a short introduction about peach pie. It's like a entire platform. It contains a compiler which is based on Roslyn, so there is a entire code analysis project that takes a bunch of PHP files and technologies it and creates all the trees and semantic trees and outputs the DLL file.

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There's anti runtime that supports the compiled PHP programs, and there are also a bunch of libraries that simulate or re-implement all of PHP stuff, like all the PHP extensions and so on, so to make it more a little bit more clear and I promise the city on your animation. We have in this in this presentation.

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The compiler takes all the PHP code. It can be a really huge project, like I will show you after a few minutes, and it also references an assembly na and, and it doesn't reference you can have and creates a docking standard, or some of it is portable. My and also it's sourceless, you don't have the original PHP source code in the resulting in the resulting DL file, which gives you a few more three more other options.

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Now you can distribute your PHP applications, for example, anyways. Let's move on the first demonstration to make it more clear: it's a simple console application. So let me switch to to register your code and in here, I have an empty folder and we'll create a single page. Let's start with a PHP file and just with something realistic.

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The whole world, and whatever the project needs, is a project file. You can create it manually. You can don't know templates, as I will show you later in Visual Studio code. We have a really small extension that adds.

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To the commander, it's this one, which will create a project file.

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There is, and what we see is a PHP file and a project file containing like anything. We are used to from c-sharp the output tag property. The target framework is does not call from a 2.0 some description, which is not necessary, but their presence. We are compiling palace, it's a subpage, EP files, all the files and one additional transit NuGet package containing work. So this is real.

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We actually not need any PHP and, if observer, all her stuff is downloaded automatically when you first come your project, so we begin and if I for just launch it, you can see it in Rosa hugging. Those of course do you think you can see this.

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As a dotnet debugger.

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Which means one great advantage of the entire project, because all the to link or the great tooling of the.net can be used for the PHP apps as well, and we will show several other two links during the presentation like readers to the Diagnostics and so on, but for now I would like to demonstrate the interoperability features. So if you've write a really small piece of code like like a general general hello world, some functions, so we will see so we will see how it works.

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Okay, yes, value and write. This I don't know the value and.

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Come do something.

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Okay, I lost Mouse good.

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Okay, I think I've just lost my keyboard. Wait a minute.

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Can we have a second.

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Sorry I just lost I just lost the keyboard anyways. Let's write a simple hello world application in PHP like hi.

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And I run it in an usual way and.

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What's great about the project as I show you before is yes, you can debug the application as another doesn't application, but you can also you can also use all the document stuff. You can implicitly you get all the references to order tokens, standard, runtime and packages and I think you specify in your in your project file as a package of friends or as a project, your friends and and or any other reference to a DLL file. So I can write something without any other configuration, something like any system date time and using the PHP syntax.

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I can print a good look at the current time color. It is a string and concatenate using the PHP syntax and run the project. I think f5.

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And just continue and you'll see you see it seamlessly integrated with all the dot and goodies.

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So what's the result of this compilation as we are used to from any other c-sharp project, RSD bin folder is debug and net Korat and there is a deal of file and PDB file for debugging for debugging features, and we can. We can look at the DLL file using some decompiler, like I'll spike, for example. So if we open the deal files file like this.

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You see there's a bunch of bunch of weird methods: it's because they they are meant to not be accessible, but there's also the function we've written and you can see in the in the I'll spy there's a regular call to the date/time function, so it's seamlessly integrated with no overhead at all. So you can write these c-sharp PHP hybrids, like all together without any overhead, there's also a bunch of other other runtime stuff that are generated to have a compiler, but everything works as s1 SNL dotted language.

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So let me it's just for a quick info. Let me show you some some more interesting topic web application in here.

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We can create a regular PHP web application ap website without of observer or having a PHP on your on your machine, because we have a speed of its core and it's built in castor web server. So we can create a c-sharp project that will target PHP and and run its own web server. It can run command line on on, is Express or is on Azure or anything you are used to.

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So we start with an empty folder again and for this for this purpose, we have prepared, we prepared a set of templates if we browse to our project website, there's already prepared come on for it. So using this command opening new dish, I beat my template. We can install dotnet templates to.

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Do your daughter installation? So if you run the command it will download NuGet packages, our templates and there's one template that creates an asp.net core website with some PHP already so no web. But the language is PHP. You can write it like that and you'll see it creates two projects: a server and a website. Web site is a PHP project with the project file we've shown before and the server is a regular, regular, orchestral web server, a hosting hosting our project.

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We configure some sessions. You know we configure anything needed for running running the project, but there's one additional line which gives you the option to take all the scripts from the compiled file and run it as a part of the S, because multi-core pipeline.

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So he built the project for the first time it down lost, although all the dependencies, so these warnings will disappear and and put a breakpoint into the into the PHP code, and we can you can check some more advanced interoperability features we can make use with the pitchman project. I can here so working, so we can start a project as usual.

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Run it to using the.net core configuration, why I don't want to launch a browser? That's from the project.

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And it runs on port 4.

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So X pyramid course started initialize the pipeline and request it. Our request handler is part of the runtime on a peach pie and passed the request to the compiled PHP file, and now we can see 10 debug the PHP file, as we as we showed before continue, and you see on your on your SP tonette core server, a message from from PHP come: let's make it more interesting like we can, for example, create a class, but we can create a class in a c-sharp project. Let's imagine.

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Have already already some c-sharp library or let's call it class library, 1 and.

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Create an initial initial project in here using the technical class slip on yes,.

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So elderness teach our project with with a class and what you can do now. We can reference this c-sharp project from a PHP project, so we can add regular project, three friends from.

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From the website, which is PHP project two to the seashell project, that's its class library 101 slash this problem and why would I do that? It's because I can use this dotnet classes in my PHP file. So in this way imagine you have a huge PHP code consisting of thousands and thousands of files, which is not unusual, and you can still really replace them. You can slowly replace PHP classes with tokens classes.

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For example, you are, you are migrating to your your PHP project to dotnet and you would like to gain some performance, so you just remove the remove the class from PHP project and rewrite it in a c-sharp and the PHP code. All look the same. So if we have a constructor, for example, in c-sharp and I, create in PHP class library, one slash, I guess it's called costs, 1 plus 1.

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We can instantiate the objects as before without any difference, but the class was written in C sharp. So in this way we can keep the old PHP code and slowly rewrite pieces of it into into c-sharp, and if you run the project, let's make a lot more interesting. Let's make like a function, for example,.

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Yellow pharmacy shop, Thanks and.

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Who, and if you run the project it don't seem us to integrate with dotnet, is the Bismarck with my dog net, with my dope net project? Or is it oh, it's running if you request the page again, the breakpoint hits our creation of the dotnet project.

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One more time, I.

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Wanna there's missing number: that's why let's write again and let's put some breakpoints so we see something is happening.

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Now we are PHP and it seamlessly stepped into interest eShop. So if we take a closer look on the call stack, we are on one stack frame beyond PHP and then we are in c-sharp, like with no with no more at all and the same, the same with calling the function. Foo.

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But integration gives us more more features like all the types are converted with new PHP and C sharp, as you would expect. So we have something like another type in in c-sharp.

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Let's call it I and we passed now, for example, and in PHP it gets it gets automatically averted, but we can go one more step further, because thanks to the extra integration, I think soda interpret the features we can extend, c-sharp classes in PHP and also gave B classes in c-sharp. So if you write something like my class, which extends this c-sharp class, it would all work.

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Is it also all work and also with function overriding and anything you would expect and also we can write more more integration features and make use of all the Daltons features you like, for example, but you don't have in PHP, for example, in PHP they don't have a delegate, they don't have. They don't have an option: how to wrap something in in something as a delegate. They don't have to type for it.

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They have something like closure or or classes that have magic methods like underscore invoke or or underscore call, but in c-sharp we are used to. We are used to write delegates. So if I wouldn't something like function, that will return a delegate taking in and littering string what to do, for example, and it will return this function doing something like.

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Converting the number to string in this notation and it's full type, that's the reason. Why would I do PHP doesn't have full attacked? Are the most methods but see Chavez I would prefer to have my code foot typed. So that's why I would write it in c-sharp. Instead,.

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And now you can, you can do the same thing in a PHP you can you can take your what to do method and you can just call it with one two. Three.

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But now it's it's strongly typed and you cannot have you can't do a mistake. So let's run it again.

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Yep not running so you refresh the page we are in here in the calling of food.

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You write something now. It asks my C sharp method. What to do and I will return animals, Trombetta methods to the PHP, and then I will call it from the PHP code.

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So all this integration of all this interpretive features works like seamlessly. You don't have to do anything. You just write the code as you would expect it and you can treat the PHP code as you are used to so I wanted to show you all this, because we want to show you something bigger something in real visual studio, for example, and we need few more things we need to realize. There is a bunch of libraries and bunch of runtime stuff in the peach pie project.

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So there's a lot of lot of features implemented in the project already and also you have to realize that the PHP code behaves like any other, any other c-sharp project. So we can do things, for example like yeah we can, since we have this class in being in the website project, we would like to share it with others, and it is good. It is a good experience to do to rub your your libraries into NuGet packages.

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So once we had this class in here, we can do things like donut pack and yeah. It's a version and it creates, as expected and nougat package, containing your PHP compiled code without PHP PHP sources, and you can you can take this NuGet package, which you can only be you Explorer and open it.

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We can take this in your get package, push it on your nougat feet and you get dirt or ego or or something like that and share it with with your team or with others, and all it contains is that your file is the compact PHP code and the specification of the nougat package, which you can alter in in the MS Bell profile, as you are used to, and it's a great way of, sharing bigger, bigger, bigger libraries written in PHP or or inner language and I'm, showing you this because now, let's make a move to do Visual Studio and demonstrate a razor and PHP.

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So we can get closer to the final demonstration which will be which will be after that.

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Imagine imagine you have a few more few more files in your PHP project, for example, and.

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You would like to write a new new website and c-sharp. Let's say: let's say you have really old PHP project and all.

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The components.

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All the parts of your website out are already written in your in your in your PHP project, and now we are writing this new new as betokened core NBC application, and you would like to, of course make use of the overly written code, because in this way you can slowly create a new project and reuse. Existing piece of you.

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You don't have to rewrite.

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Everything from scratch and buy it, for example, year or two to make the new project working so.

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In this demonstration, we.

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Have three projects I've prepared a PHP library, a PHP project as sixty before and what it does? Yes, there is there's a small PHP code and then there is a c-sharp project, regular one with regular, castor web server with some index razor page and what we do here. We would like to take this existing HP code and render it as a component on the razor page and for this purpose we can do it as before. We just create a PHP project.

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We create an MVC application, but there's an extension to the HTML object which usually renders things like action, link, checkbox and so on. There is an extension called PHP and you can literally take your name of your of your PHP file. Put. It is an argument to this PHP extension and make the runtime to render your PHP your compiled PHP code at this point. So if you run this project 1 as a command line, it's all again compile compile all the other PHP stuff, compile our C, sharp stuff, create views, and so on.

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Let's put a breakpoint in here: let's put a breakpoint and let's put a breakpoint, also in here yeah.

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So now you see we are debugging the original page and it seamlessly transfer to to the PHP code, and now we are rendering the PHP code. It's all I synchronous and that's why you don't see. We don't see the razor on the call stack and, and that's like it, that's that's everything you have to do. You can debug it continue and in the result, in the result, you see a part of code from razor and part of code from from PHP.

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If you take a look on the source code, it's all, as you know, a single HTML code. There is no internal frames or or JavaScript or anything. It's it's like one piece, one piece of code, so nobody will ever know or not whatever I'll notice. There is some PHP on this on this razor page and we.

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The font size sure, like this no problem, so we can do is we can do this in another way as well? We can render a razor partial view in a PHP code, which is pretty much the same but but written in PHP I. Guess it's in this file. Yes, in.

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The same extension for PHP code or rewritten and as you can see, we can write something like HTML and partial and and typed name of your partial view, which I have in here.

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We can also pass an order, it can be a C sharp object or it can be a peach public as well. So in this in this demonstration we have class user as a PHP class. We pass it as as a model for for this portion of razor view and the partial razor view stating it's accepting this user. So for interview of the C sharp project, it's a regular dot s class.

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If the navigates to the definition, it generates something from metadata, but it's actually contained in the generated imagery, the TTP library, so it doesn't care actually I did implemented the model in in a PHP in a PHP object. So, let's start, let's start this project and see what happens so.

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Running it has the breakpoint in PHP code, and if you put a breakpoint in here, you can see it transfers the execution to the to the razor partial view. Another caustic you can see. Now we are a PHP and it does a bunch of stuff and then continues in the regs of view. It renders the razor thing and goes back to the PHP code and in the result there is.

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There is your there's, your razor purse of you rendered in a PHP page that is compiled into dotnet. So that's how you can design reuse existing stuff from from MVC application or from all PHP application in in other projects that are on a different platform, for example, and I was showing is for for another purpose because what's great about a project it.

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If the handles a larger projects, then then 2 or 3 PHP files- and we showed it before, but now we can all make it working like together with razor and and all the other stuff, and that's it's a bigger, bigger web application and we've chosen a WordPress for this for this demonstration.

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So in the demonstration we take the entire sources of WordPress, just pack it into into animus built project file, and we create a new bid package from from the entire WordPress and we use this new gift package in the MVC application in the asp.net core application, without configuring any web server or without installing any PHP or or anything like this.

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So, let's, maybe let's go back to to Visual Studio code and and I have something like. Yes, it's okay.

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And in here we have a bunch of projects, one of them is WordPress folder and it contains it contains the entire sources of the corpus applications or the harbor's application, and you don't need to actually take a look on the sources. The important thing is the project file, so we stated target framework for the fourpence application is doesn't standard. 2.0 we've prepared some some property in here like in the in other seashell projects.

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We have no warm properties, so we can ignore some warnings because actually PHP applications are fraught for issues for warnings of errors, and some of them are just not that important. That I would like to care about. So, for example, this one is about putting.

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Parameters after optional parameters, which is okay in PHP in in.net, you cannot do that. So the compiler shows you the warning, but for this demonstration we are ignoring it. Also, we are compiling all the PHP files or baby pass, except for some, except for some of them and.

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We are including some content files like pictures and JavaScript files and CSS files into the new gate package. It is very important because, if you create in yoga package with the content files, then you don't have to do anything. You have a nougat package with WordPress and about its content right where you need it and that's it. That's it. That's.

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The rest is the same like before, with the one exception, a via SDK project, which adds few more features to the WordPress and the SDK project is here, and it defines some interfaces that are not needed, but it also makes it extensible for our helper project that provides an extension method, call use WordPress. So if you write this use, WordPress method, if you call this use WordPress method in your in your SP design, core application, it does a bunch of stuff like loading.

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The word press into the SB doesn't core pipeline and also it enables, for example, SB doesn't corresponds, caching, which is pretty cool, because everyone who ever configured the WordPress site knows you have to enable some caching, caching plugins, like WP, super cache or I. Think like this, which is not needed on because we have Dublin core and we have this response. Caching middleware so there's also a small application to test the WordPress and to run it on kestrel.

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So, as you can see, it's a regular castro site calling the use wordpress. So, let's, let's run this, let's run this little sample. If you press something like a five I guess.

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It compiles it compartir entire wordpress, which takes a few seconds and.

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And outputs a bunch of warnings like a thousands of them. A lot of them are because unreachable code detected.

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Because in PHP can I open.

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It yes, I can open.

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Because the PHP they they like to make conditions like if function exists, do this and if cause exists to death and the compiler knows the function exists, so it makes all of code. I love called unreachable and it outputs you a warning for this anyways.

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Now we are configuring pipeline and stepping in to the purpose, and we are doing a bunch of stuff like we are reading for chris configuration for from app settings dot, JSON file, because in wordpress to configure our database or other things, you have to modify a source PHP file and we don't like that. So we've replaced it with up settings of Jason. So it we allowed the configuration from up settings of Jason, and then we configure the WordPress using the settings file. Instead of modifying the sources source PHP file, we also a neighbor the response.

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Caching, middleware and.

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The SDK also enables the short URL rewriting so in WordPress you have these short URLs, which doesn't refer to to actual to access to actual PHP files, but instead they have to be parsed and passed to index dot PHP. So in in here we configure a short while rule using the experiment, corn, middleman.

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We pass the middleware to to the pitch by runtime, which handle handler requests and pass them to compile, to compile, source files and also also middle, are from static files of all all the JavaScript CSS files and images will be handled as well.

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So let's continue and I've already started my score database, which is which is most advanced topic of running WordPress on droplet. Actually, so I already have my store database and yeah it's running, so we can. I guess I've configure it on port 5, 4 4 4. So if you open the opening browser, yes.

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In here it does some drink and your taxes will another slow and in here we have the entire application running on under that. So you see a bunch of debugging stuff. You can of course put breakpoints and a page because somewhere somewhere interesting like settings.

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So you can put breakpoints in a PHP code and and do whatever I used to from from from the debugging application. Yes,.

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But this is something we have shown like a year ago and what's nice about this approach is compelling the WordPress or compiling PHP application with this property called called generate generate package on built. Yes means it creates a new get package from from this product file, and here we have one created from the from the WordPress.

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It's about 8 megabytes as megabytes large.

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It consider the entire WordPress with the content files. So whenever reference this package from my c-sharp application, I get all the content files as well and in a lick folder. There's this comparative wordpress, including the xml documentation file, which is generated from the PHP documentation, documentation comments from the WordPress itself.

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So we call this package by the dot wordpress and we can use this package to run our new purpose site without.

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Name in a wordpress or without having any any PHP files in my project actually so for this purposes, I've prepared a really small small application on kestrel, and it's this one so dirty there's the application with with no PHP files at all they're, just one of your friends to that peach, pie, wordpress NuGet package and the rest is handled by dotnet dot system itself. So we can always use the WordPress to install the WordPress into into the to the request handler pipeline and with few plugins that solution later.

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What important thing is: there's there is no PHP code at all. We return the PHP code from the nougat package and we can put my point as usual and run run. The application.

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So in here we cannot step into because it's compiled and yet no get package, but you run into us as usual and we will see the same same as before, because we are running the same. You get packages, we've created it from.

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But why would I do that? Why would I compile the WordPress to you know that there are a few reasons like as I've shown before we can install this response. Caching, that, like boosts performance of the purpose side, so if we are gonna ground and go back to the site, the response time to to make a request to a scientist about two milliseconds, because it just just hits the it just hits the SP doesn't Corps response caching middleware and gets me the output immediately.

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What I can do as well is extend the WordPress with a c-sharp. So if I have some components, some some packages in c-sharp or as a new gate package and I, don't have them in PHP I can I can extend WordPress in c-sharp using these components. For example, here there's an additional widget in my dev board that it's actually written in in C sharp as a razor partial view.

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So you can use the same mechanism as I've shown in the demonstration before to render razor into widgets of the WordPress and again, the WordPress source code was totally fine at also the PHP code doesn't know it's coming from from dotnet it's using the same syntaxes and send everything as it's used to, but it can be extended with a c-sharp in this way using the using the compiler.

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Another cool feature is I, can write various plugins and short codes and have this app settings different for development and for production, which is something again it's not in the WordPress as it is in PHP and if you take, if you take closer look on on the on the output of the project file, if you compile the project, there is no source files of the original WordPress, so that handles a lot of a lot of attacks to WordPress sites by modifying the source code.

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It is now what not possible you can, of course, disable mmm disable modifications of the PHP files on your web server. But in here it's coming as a single compact or press side, which you can also test automatically on your death, oops I, should've apps.

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It's got no visual, oops, I, guess on your DevOps platform, to check integrity of all the plugins and everything and deploy just the compiled fully working tested application to your to your website and also as I was talking about the other two links you can take use of diagnostic window, which was too huge, I really like, because it reveals me a lot of memory, issues, lot of lot of exceptions, a lot of CPU leaks and all the other issues.

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I can have so in here when I'm browsing through the side and with a low response machine, because the response cache in cases a but when I'm logged in you can see the CPU is merrily doing something. It's just a little peek and and nothing else and also I, can profile profile the application and see a lot of stuff on YouTube, because it's very good practice to profile our application. Before we go to production, of course- and yes, that's it I made it in 45 minutes.

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So that's actually everything I wanted to I what is demonstrated in this presentation but I've? Yes, I guess: I have few more seconds. I can show you one more use of of the.net I prepared a little little project in in in visual studio, written in PHP code and, as you can see, it uses as a Marine selling framework. So let me connect one phone.

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The last two seconds.

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Let me show you how the dotnet is power from for, for various reasons you saw you saw, we can write, we can integrate PHP and dotnet and all this stuff, but doesn't provide you much more. That interacts you better performance. You can publish your.

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You, can publish your project to where your devices to Linux Mac, OS windows and everything you can, of course make your application ultra portable, and once you connect your phone to Visual Studio, you see it appears in the top menu and I can just run an Internet project using the summer in framework on your mobile device and I have an Android device in here and, as you know, Donna doesn't see a difference between languages, ones ones. The language is compiled to dotnet. You can do whatever you want with it.

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So what peach pie allows you to do is like write, an application for your mobile phone as well.

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So let it compile deploying building in some targets doing sounds drunk signatures and.

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Deploying the DLL files to the phone.

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Starting debugging- yes, oh and it's Frank, so in here, yes- and here we have a little planet written in PHP, running on Android device, which gives one more use case for for PHP language, I guess it would run it would work for for Apple and Windows Phone as well, but I'm, okay with Android. So that's it I think I made it in 47 minutes is great thanks. So if you have any questions, I'm hearing I'll be glad to to answer. If someone's listening at 2:00 a.m. of course,.

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Hey Jacob, that's awesome, stuff. We do have a couple questions in the chat room, so we have some folks that were asking is: does everybody get that performance bump when at when they drop in and they start using razor pages with PHP.

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Well, as you know, razor pages are compiled to to.net, so razor pages are strongly typed and it can be written. It can be written much more performant HP and there is no performance drop because.

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It's actually doing like nothing. It's just calling trace is.

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View HP code there is, there is nothing I think does know.

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So you get great performance when you're using razor with PHP and there's also some questions here when for folks that are just visiting a WordPress app, not an admin user, but if folks are just browsing to WordPress, do they also see that great performance coming through.

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Yeah sure well, that's mostly because that's mostly because of the because it corresponds caching middleware because locally, we we have response in two milliseconds, which is which is.

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Users will definitely notice the difference, but, of course, if you configure another caching mechanism on your Apache web server or anywhere else, it's the result will be pretty much the same in here. It's shorter, cleaner present and much more configurable and than usual approaches. Cool.

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And one last question or friend, ancient coder here in the chat room in is asking WordPress, has had major security to attacks. How does your implementation of peach pie with WordPress affect that security story? Oh.

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That's a good question: as you see the WordPress isn't art, so you don't have any source files on our web server. So any attacks on these sources are like not possible at all. Also there is this SB doesn't cover and espyo support pipeline and your observe cottage catches a lot of attacks and we actually actually saw a lot of attacks on unboxing PHP, since you don't have any PHP on your web server, this exact possible.

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So all of improvements and issues that are now be like run so or similar are simply not possible because donatello rather crashed than analysis, modify and unsafe, or so a lot of attacks that are that targeting page are simply not possible. With the compound.

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That's it and and last question that I got that I have here: I want to make sure I touch one for folks that are browsing to a peat to a peach pie enabled website the. Is there an initial download that those folks see this? All the peach pie runs completely on the server right. Yes,.

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Which is like I'm, Pilar and runtime on the server, so they don't notice. The only way how they can notice is to is to reveal the response headers of the web server and they would notice there is X powered by at the width value of peach pie, so SD my heart, okay notice. But there is no downloading. There is no initial initial initial download and so long they won't notice.

B

Fantastic well thanks, so much Jacob, I we've, a number of the folks here in the chatroom, are pointing out that they I've been doing a little bit of work with peach pie on my channel I know you've seen some of the stuff that I'm doing over there so really great stuff. I can't wait to go a little bit further, exploring peach pie on my own, and it sounds like a couple of the folks here in the chat room. We're excited to give it a try with PHP on their own. So thank you so much.

B

So thanks so much we're uh we'll catch you later and we're gonna start getting ready for our next presentation, but in the meantime we've got. We've got some quick words on view and webpack get you later Jacob thanks.