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A
Good
morning,
good
evening
and
good
afternoon,
and
welcome
to
beautiful
Redmond
Washington,
where
it's
the
first
Thursday
of
the
month,
you
know
what
that
means.
It
is
time
for
the.net
mobile
community
stand
up
today.
I
am
joined
by
my
bestest
friend
in
the
world
and
really
my
only
friend
in
the
world
Dave
art
now
Dave
how's
it
going
you.
A
A
B
Have
a
lot
to
talk
about
I'm
glad
people
are
joining
in
I'm.
Looking
at
the
YouTube
chat,
I
probably
should
get
the
twitch
chat
going
here
too.
We
do
have
a
lot
going
on
sorry
for
starting
a
little
bit
late,
probably
mostly
my
fault,
I
was
I
was
running
kids
around.
Who
does
that
right
right
when
the
car's
in
the
shop
you're
running
kids
around
so
couldn't
be
avoided,
but
I'm
glad
that
we're
here
now
so
I
know
that
we've
got
a
lot
of
blog
posts.
B
A
B
So
we've
actually
got
a
couple
months
worth
of
things
to
talk
about
and
we're
trying
to
pull
the
cream
of
the
crop.
I
know
when
I
went
and
looked
at
the
pull
requests.
There
were
so
many
much
thanks
to
the
Oktoberfest.
So
a
lot
of
amazing
things
happening
there
and
yeah
I
mean
really
nothing
but
good
news
to
report
the
ignite
sessions
went
really
really
well.
You
know,
Matt,
you
were
not
at
ignite
right,
I.
A
B
Like
that,
thanks
for
giving
preference
to
the
customers,
although
I
think
they
would
like
to
have
seen
you
I'm
pretty
sure
there
was
more
than
20,000
I
know
Gulnaz
and
her
team
was
there.
They
did
an
amazing
job
and
we
had
so
many
more
developers
this
year.
I,
don't
know
exactly
what
the
numbers
were,
but
significantly
larger
cohort
of
developers
joined
where
it's
typically
more
IT,
pros
and
and
business
leaders.
B
So
it
was
great
from
our
standpoint
being
part
of
developer
division
at
Microsoft,
visual
studio.net
and
all
that
to
have
a
lot
more
of
our
tribe,
I
guess
coming
around
to
the
business
and
and
getting
excited
about
all
the
great
things
that
we're
doing
much
of
which
we're
gonna
talk
about
today.
So
if
you're
ready
to
get
into
the
blog
post,
we
could
probably
start
there
I.
C
A
B
A
Yeah,
so
what
the
snippets
does
it's
like
a
website
and
you
can
go
out
to
it
and
view
certain
wealth
snippets
to
make
your
you
eyes,
look
great
and
beautiful,
and
so
what
they
did.
They
did
a
challenge
and
they
have
people
submit
different
snippets,
and
so,
let's
just
take
a
peek
at
some
of
them
that
we
have
here
Kim
philipot,
who
we
know
and
love
very
well
from
the
same
Rand
University
days
and
now
of
the
Microsoft
content
team.
Did
one
of
the
Marvel
comments
comics
and
take
a
look
at
this.
A
A
Another
one
here
that
does
like
a
financial
app
as
well,
so
we
have
a
little
Pyke
chart
in
here
and
just
a
ton
of
information
being
displayed
and
a
really
really
nice
easy
to
digest
view
so
go
out
and
check
out
the
NIP.
It's
challenge
results
and
it'll
help.
You
build
up
your
UI
really
nicely.
So
you.
B
Know
one
thing:
Matt
I
would
love
to
hear
from
from
viewers
from
people
out
there
in
the
community
in
terms
of
snippets
and
things
like
this
that
are
basically
samples
right.
It's
like
how
do
I
achieve
such
such
a
result,
they're
almost
like
recipes,
but
scenario
based
I'd
love
to
hear
from
you.
What
would
you
like
to
see
more
of
I
mean
I?
Think
that,
like
the
Marvel
comic
1
is
amazing
right.
It's
just
gorgeous
your
mouth
kind
of
falls,
open,
you're,
like
wow,
but
on
a
day
to
day
basis.
B
That's
perhaps
not
the
kind
of
UI
you're
creating,
so
it
gives
you
nice
confidence
that
xamarin
can
do
these
things.
In
particular,
the
salmon
forms
is
at
the
point
where
it's
it
makes
it
easy
to
do
these
things,
but
the
the
the
the
data-driven
stuff,
with
charts
and
bar
graphs,
and
forms
that
need
validation.
Those
are
perhaps
more
alene
that
most
people
are
driving
in
so
drop
in
the
chat.
B
A
Yep,
let
David
do
some
code
for
you
and
they
have
the
aspirational
ones
that
the
beautiful
ones
that
you
can
show
up
to
your
co-workers,
that
you
did
at
home,
so
nice,
so
yep.
We're
always
looking
for
more
examples
that
we
can
put
out
on
github
for
for
people
to
take
up,
take
a
look
at
and
contribute
to
the
snippets
community-led
project
which
is
really
cool.
So
another
blog
post
that
we
wanted
to
highlight
here
is
sync
fusion,
and
so
six
fusions
blog
is
a
little
bit.
It's
newer
and
we're
really
looking
forward
to
it.
A
Sync
Fusion
being
a
component
vendor
which
does
a
lot
of
controls
for
is
for
salmon
and
they
have
a
holiday
challenge
which
they
come
out
and
you
can
use
their
essential
UI
kit,
which
is
a
bunch
of
controls
for
xamarin
and
they've.
Given
you
a
step-by-step
on
how
to
go
through
it
once
you
complete
it,
you
could
swag
who
doesn't
love
this
wag
right,
I,
don't.
B
B
A
B
Would
say
that
the
number
one
way
to
boost
productivity
is
by
being
around
and
working
with
other
developers,
because,
while
you
may
learn
some
things
on
your
own,
you
could
master
all
the
key
keyboard
shortcuts,
there's
always
stuff
that
you'll
learn
just
by
watching
somebody
else
code,
whether
it's
a
pattern
or
it's
that
keystroke
that
you
didn't
know
you
were
missing
or
it's
how
to
do
more
things
with
the
keyboard
and
less
with
the
mouse
I.
Don't
anything
like
that,
you
will
you'll.
A
B
A
That
sounds
good.
It
sounds
good,
but
no
that's
what
I
love
about
the
other
challenges
that
sing
confusions
running,
that
the
xamarin
ran
the
snippets
challenge
that
you
get
to
go
out,
check
it
out
and
github
the
cool
stuff
that
the
community
is
up
to
and
you're
not
reinventing
the
wheel
yourself.
Are
you
getting
some
inspiration
to
do
something
and
you're
learning
or
what
other
people
are
up
to
you
and
that's?
A
What
we
try
to
do
here,
too,
is
with
all
the
tutorials
and
samples
we
put
out
just
to
give
people
some
ideas
and
and
push
them
in
the
right
direction,
and
it's
fun.
It's
a
lot
of
fun
and
gives
people
I'm
a
push
and
yeah
so
going
back
to
the
the
blog
post
here
is
that
sync
fusion
goes
over
it
some.
What
you
can
do
is
a
mall
to
improve
it,
some
design
patterns.
We
talked
about
some
open
source
frameworks
and
such
as
FFA
mention
loading.
A
What
am
I
on
my
favorites,
it's
the
prism,
fresh
mvvm,
a
bunch
of
mvvm
light
and,
of
course,
crop
cross,
a
bunch
of
mvvm
frameworks,
if
you
couldn't
guess
by
by
the
name
and
hot
reload
who
doesn't
love
themselves,
some
hot
reload
and
Oh
hot
reload.
David
did
you
know
it
just
went
to
GaN
Visual
Studio
16,
for
it.
B
B
I
think
that's
what
we're
hearing
on
online
in
social
media
yeah
I've
been
using
it
for
a
long
time,
I'm
using
hot
restart
right
now,
trying
to
I
said
I
said
build
and
deploy
launch
failed,
I'll
work
on
that
right.
A
B
A
That's
that's
good
pass
that
responsibility
off
a
community
member
named
Damian
did
a
series
of
blog
posts
on
Azure
DevOps.
He
started
off
with
the
first
one
about
signing,
building
and
signing
and
deploying
your
xamarin
Android
app
using
Azure,
DevOps,
plus
App
Center,
and
now
we've
gone
in,
and
configuring
and
reusing
as
your
devops
bill
pipelines
between
projects
and
it's
always
good,
reuse,
you're,
not
again
starting
from
scratch
with
things
and
DevOps
is.
A
This
was
a
pretty
comprehensive
article
here
and
DevOps
is
something
that
once
you
get
going
with
it,
you're
gonna
be
wondering:
well,
how
did
I
live
without
it,
especially
with
the
build
and
provisioning
type
things
with
of
both
Android
and
really
with
iOS?
And
so
here
we're
looking
to
have
some
yamo
or
yet
another
markup
language,
which
you
can
actually
check
in
with
your
code.
That
way
other
because.
A
B
A
A
Everybody
loves
Windows
Phone
who
used
it
right,
but
unfortunately
it
didn't
stick
around,
but
Marco
here
had
an
app
which
he
wrote
about
tying
fishing
knots
and
he
had
it
originally
written
for
Windows
Phone,
but
he
ported
it
over
to
Android
and
iOS
using
xamarin,
and
so
this
is
like
a
great
retrospective
post
about
what
do
you
learned
going
through
it,
and
it's
just
always
good
if
you're
well,
both
if
you're
starting
out
with
salmon,
to
go
through
and
see
how
somebody
what
what
lessons
learned
they
went
through
and
he
kind
of
get
us
started
off
of
how
they
got
started.
A
Also,
if
you've
been
doing
serán
development
for
a
while,
it's
always
good
to
go
back
and
get
the
get
Nam.
Oh
the
view
of
somebody
who
the
see
xamarin
from
a
beginners
point
of
view
and
I
think
that's
really
important
for
somebody
who's
been
doing
it
for
a
while,
just
to
kind
of,
say
alright.
This
is
how
people
are
seeing
it
to
begin
with
and
I.
A
A
So
we
have
another
post
here:
extending
the
segmented
tab,
control
for
xamarin
forms,
and
this
comes
from
Randy
aka,
Zam
boy.
So
one
of
the
prolific
community
members
and
writing
blogs
and
what
we
love.
We
love
Randy
and
this
post
is
actually
super
cool
because
it
extends,
or
it
actually
updates
a
post
that
he
wrote
over
a
year
ago
on
on
the
segmented
tab,
controlling
and
just
updates
it
for
makes
it
modern,
because
the
forms
team,
your
team,
David,
that
you
help
out
with
and
p.m.
A
has
done,
a
lot
of
work,
I'm
sure
you're,
aware
of
the
work
that
you've
done
just
a
little
yep,
and
so
he
goes
through
and
have
updates
it
to
make
it.
You
know,
make
it
modern,
so
I'm
not
a
great
read
to
go
through
and
talk
about
everything
that
has
happened
and
make
the
control
great,
and
we
see
tons
of
code
example
and
examples
in
there
too.
So.
B
Yeah,
it's
nice
that
you
can
take
those
controls.
You
can't
extend
them,
you're
really
prohibited
from
doing
nothing
in
xamarin.
You
can
get
to
everything
right,
which
is
great
and
we're
working
on
making
it
so
that
you
don't
have
to
do
that
for
this,
for
the
simple
things
or
the
common
things,
but
for
the
more
advanced
scenarios
you
can
always
do
that,
whether
it's
the
cross-platform
API
itself
or
whether
it's
those
controls
that
you
need
to
get
to
the
nitty-gritty
of
and
customize
I
love.
A
B
A
B
A
Right,
it
should
be
when
you're
dealing
with
Apple
provisioning
and
uploading
things
and
Apple
got
rid
of
the
application,
loader
and
yeah.
So
now
you
have
to
go
through
a
bunch
of
I
guess
more
trouble,
so
we
have
another
grape
post
by
Nicolay,
and
so
he
walks
you
through
what
you
have
to
do
now
to
go
through
this
stuff
and
you
can
use
one
of
two
things:
command
line
which
I've
been
told
all
the
kids
love
or
the
transporter
app,
so
yeah
cool.
So
what's
your
what's
your
opinion
on
command
line?
Are
you?
C
B
Thing
with
like
nougat
package
restores
and
things
like
that.
If
you
know
what
you're
doing
that
is
the
optimal
way
to
to
do
it
and
master
it,
but
it
does,
it
does
take
some
learning
right.
So
the
onboarding
ramp
for
the
CLI
world
is
a
little
bit
steeper
than
being
able
to
click
a
few
buttons
inside
the
IDE.
So
I
am
a
fan
of
it.
B
B
A
B
For
that
kind
of
a
task
having
a
having
a
GUI
having
a
buddy
that
you
just
push,
we're
terribly
marked
easy.
A
And
big
and
red
and
flashing,
and
that's
why
these
blog
posts
are
great
those
who
go
find
it
bookmark
it
it's
all
out
there
for
you,
so
you
don't
have
to
remember
it.
So
that's
great,
and
you
know
what
else
would
be
good
which
you
can
do
is
you
can
actually
put
this
like
this
XC
run
into
an
azure
devops
pipeline,
because
you
can
run
just
arbitrary
code
so
learn
it
then
reuse
it
without
even
have
to
thinking
about
it
again.
A
Well,
I
I
just
started
getting
into
it
now.
It's
all
gonna
be
talking
about
so
a
couple
months
ago
was
all
about
authentication.
Now
it's
DevOps,
so
you
could.
You
can
always
tell
about
what
I'm
learning
and
getting
into
so
all
right.
Next
blog
post,
yes
good
friend
of
the
xamarin
community,
Ryan
Davis,
has
gone
out
and
done
a
post
on
what's
new
and
iOS
13
and
there's
a
ton
of
it.
In
fact
he
did
a
user
group
meeting
over
an
hour.
You
can
go
through
and
watch
him
present
on.
A
What's
new
in
iOS,
13
and
videos
are
a
great
way
to
see
the
demos
get
the
content
in
digestion.
So
we
have
this
linked
here,
but
that's
not
all
he
also
goes
through
and
links
goes
through
everything
and
show,
as
you
know,
what's
going
on
like
this
multi
window
stuff
for
iPad,
OS
and
really
I
mean
this
was
pretty
pretty
thorough
and
so
yeah.
B
A
With
Apple
there's
some
authentication
for
you
love
it
so
yeah
it's
this
is.
This
is
awesome
core
NFC
yeah.
What's
that
who
knows
but
read
it
you'll
know
then
so
yeah
this
has
really
cool
stuff
and
not
stopping
there.
Now
this
this
is
the
best
code
magazine,
big
magazine
right,
everybody
reads
it:
everybody
should
read
it.
Ryan
has
an
article
in
it
about
Samri,
Samri
native
to
xamarin
forms
reaping
the
rewards
without
the
risk.
A
This
really
is
a.
This
is
a
great
article.
I
think
everybody
should
be
reading
this
and
get
to
have
some
exam.
Read
content
within
a
big
magazine
like
code.
Is
it's
great
just
they
have
the
exposure
like
this
and
Ryan.
Does
a
super
super
good
job?
If
you
can
see
this
little
scroll
bar
here,
it's
a
nice
long,
article
too,
but
it's
a
good
read.
A
B
I
work
with
him
on
this
and
I
actually
have
hard
copies
of
the
magazine
here
so
Ryan
when
I
see
you
next,
hopefully
at
MVP
summit
I,
don't
know,
I
have
a
copy
for
you,
so
yeah.
The
great
thing
about
this
is
it's
his
story
of
working
with
a
customer
and
and
how
they
have
evolved
a
codebase
over
time,
and
you
know
the
interesting
thing
for
me
is
I've
known
Ryan
for
a
while.
B
Think
that's
pretty
cool
and
and
he's
having
good
success
with
it
and
showing
how
you
can
have
a
bath
best
of
all
worlds
approach
and
that's
really
that's
the
mentality
I'm.
Trying
to
promote
and
preach
is
it's
not
an
either/or
decision?
Really,
most
decisions
are
not
either/or.
There
is
a
both/and
scenario
where
you
can
have
your.
Have
your
cake
and
eat
it
too,
and
you
know
used
responsibly.
You
can
have
your
cake
and
eat
it
too.
Right.
A
A
You've
been
a
couple
of
years
ago
for
the
hard
sell
and
now
I
think
that's
I
think
it's
the
default
starting
point,
at
least
for
me,
is
why
not
with
forums
so
I'm
yeah
I
hear.
C
B
The
resources
are
there
and
because
the
controls
have
gotten
to
the
point
where
you
can
get
much
further
than
you
used
to
our
back
when
I
had
my
consulting
company
before
joining
Microsoft.
The
question
I
would
always
ask
my
my
contractors
the
people
that
I
work
with
regularly
hey.
What's
the
story
with
forms?
Is
it?
Is
it
getting
good,
you
know,
can
you
build
full
apps
with
it
now
or
is
it
still
kind
of
in
its
infancy
and
when
they
started
telling
me
hey
this
is
this
is
actually
pretty
good?
B
We
feel
like
we're
gonna
buy
into
this
now.
That's
when
I
started
looking
at
it
so
I
saw
it
was
Daniel
Hendricks
recently
tweeted
that
he's
working
on
a
new
version
of
his
book
about
Sandman
forms
projects,
and
he
said
he's
got
a
lot
to
revise
cuz,
even
though
it's
only
just
about
a
year
old
or
so.
No,
it
has
has
been
added,
changed
and
proved
right,
I'm,
not
in
terms
of
hey.
You
move
my
cheese.
B
We
architect
my
projects,
anything
like
that,
but
you
know
there's
just
a
lot
of
improvements
because
we're
talking
to
you
in
the
community.
We
have
this
open
dialogue
with
you
and
you're
telling
us
what
you
need
and
we
you
know,
I,
spend
so
much
of
my
time.
Measuring
the
feedback,
see
where
the
big
things
are
and
then
the
team
does
a
fantastic
job
of
implementing
those
in
the
code,
but
not
only
that
and
we're
gonna
get
to
this
a
little
bit
the
contributions.
B
A
The
arrows
pointing
up-
and
it's
almost
cliche
by
now
to
say
this-
is
a
new
Microsoft,
where
it's
open
source,
but
it
is
the
Ameren
forums,
is
a
great
project
to
recognize
about
that.
Is
that
it's
a
project?
That's
run
correctly
that
it's
taken
a
ton
of
community
contributions
to
it.
It
has
the
internal
contributions
to
it
and
the
issues
are
responded
to
and
taken
seriously.
So
it's
open
source
done
right
and
it's
Microsoft
doing
open
source
and
not
to
toot
our
own
horn.
A
A
B
A
B
Didn't
catch
the
cue
yeah
and
I
was
also
replying
to
chat
messages
about
my
hunger
share,
requests
all
right.
So
let's
talk
about
what's
been
happening
in
the
community,
especially
over
the
last
two
months.
So
you
can
see
here.
I've
got
a
query
over
the
last
two
months
and
I'm
actually
sorting
on
reactions.
I
need
to
figure
out
how
I
can
sort
on
multiple
reactions
right
now,
it's
just
allowing
me
to
sort
on
one.
B
But
anyway,
there
are
105
open
and
230
closed,
and
this
is
of
course,
a
mixture
of
community
PRS
and
salmon
forms
team
PRS,
and
we
do
spend
the
majority
of
the
time
talking
about
PRS
in
the
salmon
forms
repository
because
it
is
far
and
away
the
most
active
that
we
have
and
it's
the
one
that
you
are
most
using
and
most
benefiting
from
so
no
shade
on
the
xamarin,
ios
and
android
xamarin
Mac
components
essentials
all
those
projects.
We
would
certainly
love
to
surface
and
talk
about
and
celebrate
those
contributions
as
well.
B
B
I,
don't
remember,
percentage-wise
what
the
increase
was
from
last
year,
but
I
know
that
we
had.
We
actually
have
a
blog
post
that
does
a
hacked
over
fest
wrap-up.
It
has
all
the
numbers
in
it,
and
it's
just
outstanding,
and
the
cool
thing
is:
is
the
forum's
the
xamarin
team
not
just
forms,
but
the
xamarin
team
at
large
participated
in
this?
Even
though
Microsoft
was
it
was
a
more
of
a
passive
participant
this
year.
So
hopefully
we
can
show,
show
the
the
big
boys
that
this
is
well
worth
doing.
B
B
When
you
do
post
a
contribution,
it
would
be
super
helpful
for
everybody,
not
just
me,
but
for
everybody,
if
you
would
put
code
snippets
in
your
description,
show
us
what
it
looks
like
in
c-sharp
and
if
it's
a
saml
thing
show
us
what
it
looks
like
in
this
amel
show
us
both,
because
that
is
really
helpful,
not
only
here,
but
it's
helpful
when
it
goes
to
the
docs.
So
wasn't
planning
on
saying
that,
but
value-add
Stephen
Davison,
who
is
a
huge,
huge
influence
influencer.
A
A
B
B
He's
just
inside
of
chubby
Dave,
but
where
is
my
where's?
My
stack?
Why
you
know
what
I
could
probably
find
it
here?
This
is
it
I
can't
do
this
because
I'm
not
signed
in
it
doesn't
think
that
I
mean
alright.
So
the
important
thing
is
is
that
I
made
a
tweet
about?
Oh
there's,
there's
Daniels
a
little
promo
for
his
book.
B
He
needs
to
add
a
bunch
of
new
stuff
just
a
year
uh-oh
here
it
is
Oh
best
gift
right
there
to
buy
so
here's
here's,
my
tweet
I
confess
I,
don't
know
what
a
full
stack
developers
and
it's
part
joking,
but
it's
also
part
sincere
because
it's
like
the
term
use
turn
around
so
much
at
some
point.
You
really
don't
know
what
it
means,
because
clearly
we
can't
all
agree
on
this
right.
C
B
A
It
was
fun,
what's
funny
is
rape
before
Thanksgiving
I
was
down
at
vyas,
live
in
Orlando
and
I
was
on
a
panel,
and
the
question
was:
is
there
such
a
thing
as
a
full
stack,
developer
and
I
got
the
answer
first
and
my
answer
was
no:
no
there
isn't
there
can't
be
because
exactly
what
you
said
there
there
is,
what
stack
are
we
talking
about?
It's
no
I
mean
you
might
be
able
to
know
a
little
bit
about
everything,
but
I.
Don't
think
you
can
be
an
expert
in
everything.
B
Right,
oh
yeah,
somebody's
mentioning
the
debug
rainbows
I.
Imagine
that's
what
they're
mentioning
I
see
rainbows
and
the
twitch
chat.
So
that's
another
one
of
Stephens
libraries.
He
also
has
state
squid
popular
one,
so
Steven
finally
made
his
first
code
contribution
to
the
xamarin
forms
repo.
So
he's
done
all
this
amazing
work
and
Gerald
finally
was
able
to
twist
his
arm
I
think
he
actually
did
a
twitch
stream
with
Steven
and
walked
him
through
the
process
which
is
out
there
somewhere,
probably
on
Gerald's
twitch
account
so
worth
checking
out.
B
If
you're
looking
to
make
your
first
contribution,
you
can
watch
Steven
and
Gerald
fumble
their
way
through
it.
I
don't
know
that
they
fumbled,
it
might
have
been
super
smooth,
but
I
find
that
the
best
best
dreams
are
the
ones
were
you
fumble,
probably
because
that's
what
I
do
and
I
assume
that
that's
the
way
that
should
be
done.
That's.
B
B
Okay,
cursor
position
and
selection
length
properties
for
the
editor
from
Joe
manky,
and
so
this
is
a
cool
one.
We
have
this
I
believe
all
ready
for
entry,
but
now
you
once
this
is
merged,
assuming
it
would
be
merged,
would
be
a
nice
addition
to
to
get
these
properties
with
the
editor
control
as
well.
So
that's
cool
as
I
was
one
of
the
highlights
that
I
found
from
the
Oktoberfest
contributions,
Adrian
Knight,
longtime
contributor.
Does
it
all
in
his
free
time?
Great
guy
is
Adrian
and
MVP.
B
If
he's
not,
he
needs
to
be
an
MVP,
implement
item
change,
animations
enabled
and
I
pulled
this
one
up
because
I
don't
actually
know
what
it
is,
but
it
must
be
cool
because
I
know
he's
working
on
a
pretty
cool
app.
So,
let's
see
what
is
this
doing?
It's
toggling
the
row
animations
during
collection
changes,
oh
and
the
items
view
right
right
right.
C
B
B
And
the
you
know,
there's
kind
of
another
tangent
I'm
full
of
tangents
today,
with
with
Mac
introducing
or
with
Apple
introducing
catalyst,
which
is
the
ability
to
take
your
iOS
iPad
OS
apps
to
the
Mac
desktop.
They
have
some
of
their
own
apps
that
are
doing
that.
We
are
going
to
be
spiking
that
work
within
the
iOS
SDK
to
see
what
that's
gonna
look
like
for
us.
B
We
feel
like
we
have
a
pretty
good
idea
of
what
that
work
is
gonna,
take,
but
once
that,
once
that
road
is
laid,
your
path
to
taking
all
your
iOS
work
directly
to
the
Mac
without
needing
to
even
use
the
Mac
OS
back-end
is
very
straightforward.
But
yeah
to
your
point,
I
know
that
we
have
customers
actively
in
production
using
Mac
OS
as
a
back-end
so
and
from
all
indications.
It
seems
to
be
going
well.
So
that's
great!
B
It's
one
of
the
one
of
most
wonderful
things
about
being
open
source
is
seeing
what
people
will
do
with
it
beyond
what
right
in
the
core
supporting
so
now,
we've
got
a
couple
of
PRS
that
are
stirring
up
a
lot
of
conversation
and
I.
Think,
for
the
most
part,
very
positive,
but
the
asp.net
world
has
this
notion
of
a
host
builder
right,
and
so
it's
this
fluent
syntax
with
which
you
set
up
your
application.
James
has
a
he's
done
several
demos
that
showcase
this
experience.
How
do
I
get
rid
of
this
stupid
teams?
B
Bar
sorry,
no
offense
teams
bar,
but
you
were
in
my
way
so
James
has
this
blog
and
you
kind
of
get
a
flavor
for
what
this
looks
like
you
have
a
static
startup
class
where
you're
going
to
kind
of
specify
some
methods
and
helper
methods,
and
things
like
that
configure
any
services
that
you
might
have
it
looks
like
there
is
a
Settings
JSON
where
you
can
pre-populate
some
things
not
necessary,
but
it's
something
that
you
might
want
to
do.
I
believe
and
then
this
is
the
host
builder
right
here.
B
So
what
we're
talking
about
is
taking
this
concept
that
is
pretty
well
embedded,
I'm
glad
to
believe
in
the
in
the
web
asp.net
community
and
is
now
this
this.
The
reason
this
is
interesting
to
us
is
because
it's
no
longer
tied
to
asp.net.
It's
now
part
of
dotnet,
and
so
it's
a
pattern
that
we
could
be
using
and
if
it's
something
that
streamlines
some
things
makes
these
configuration
hooks
discoverable,
because
that's
one
of
my
concerns
is
that
we
now
have
we've
always
had
the
salmon
forms
dot
in
it.
B
We
also
have
now
xamarin
forms,
dot,
set
flags
and
for
setting
those
experimental
flags
and
other
preferences
that
you
might
use
like,
for
example,
if
you
don't
want
to
use
fast
renderers
because
you're
using
a
library
that
depends
upon
the
legacy
android
renderers,
those
old
style
renders
then
you
might
want
to
use
legacy
renderer.
So
we
have
a
flag
for
that,
but
discovering
those
hooks.
Those
configuration
pieces
is
difficult,
whereas
if
you
know
that
everything
hangs
off
the
host
builder,
then
you
just
go
host
builder
dot
and
you
get
hey.
B
Do
I
need
to
configure
the
host.
Do
I
need
to
configure
services.
Do
I
need
to
configure
my
logging,
my
di
whatever
my
situation
may
be
it's
a
common
pattern.
So
if
this
is
something
that
is
of
interest
to
you
and
you
have
an
opinion
on
it,
please
come
make
comments
here.
Let
us
know
what
you
think
so
I
believe
the
initial
implementation
of
this,
an
idea
from
Constantine
that
is
right
as
Constantine.
B
Isn't
it
yeah
I'm,
pretty
sure
this
is
is
a
little
bit
askew
from
that
host
builder,
that
is
part
of
dotnet,
but
but
we're
now
talking
about
hey.
Does
it
make
sense
to
actually
just
bring
that
straight
over
and
and
build
on
top
of
that
work,
so
this
one
did
if
I
remember
correctly,
does
get
a
lot
of
reactions
and
comments
which
I
believe
yeah.
That's
quite
a
few
right
there.
So
you
know
I
absolutely
want
you
when
things
are
of
interest
to
you
to
please
give
reactions.
Comment
on
these
things.
B
You
are
not
bullying
us
into
doing
something,
but
it
is
absolutely
a
way
for
us
to
to
see
when
something
really
should
get
more
attention
and
discussion.
So
there's
that
related
to
that
there
is
another
one
here.
Let
me
jump
over
here,
so
you
may
have
been
familiar
in
the
past
or
even
presently
with
Vincent's
C
sharp
for
markup
class.
It's
not
a
library,
it's
not
a
nougat
package.
B
It's
a
class
on
his
github,
where
you
can
essentially
use
a
fluent
like
syntax,
all
the
property
setters
are
you
use,
as
you
normally
would
in
c-sharp,
but
then
there
are
these
helper
extension
methods
to
make
some
of
the
other
work
that
you
need
to
do
a
little
bit
cleaner
and
easier.
So,
for
example,
the
dot
row
extension
method
gives
you
the
ability
to
tell
it
where
you
want
that
element
to
appear
in
your
grid.
B
If
you're,
not
using
grids
for
layout
I,
highly
recommend
it
once
you
learn
that
flow,
it's
very,
very
powerful
for
doing
layout,
binding
if
you've
ever
written
your
bindings
in
c-sharp.
You
know
that
the
syntax
can
be
rather
verbose,
so
there's
an
extension
method
that
makes
this
much
more
straightforward.
So
some
really
nice
helpers
and
extension
methods.
Here,
as
the
you
know,
the
conversation
typically
goes
with
coded
UI,
it's
like.
Why
would
you
ever
want
to
do
that?
It's
not
as
readable
as
sam'l.
Then
you
have
the
other
camp.
B
That
says
no,
no,
it's
just
as
readable
and
I.
Don't
like
the
XYZ
about
sam'l.
So
there
are
you
know.
Sam
reforms
is
a
large
community
of
developers
and
I
think
that
there
is
room
for
both
of
these
patterns.
So
if
you
have
again
thoughts
comments,
please
come
up
here
and
let
us
know
this:
one
has
a
ton
of
reactions
because
Vincent's
been
out
there
lobbying
to
get
more
and
more
reactions
for
this,
which
is
great.
B
You
know
when
you're
passionate
about
something
rally,
the
troops,
let
us
know,
I'd,
love
to
see
that
passion
and
I
think
it
takes
nothing
away
from
zaman
forms
and
and
zamel
and
and
the
other
things
to
have
this
as
part
of
the
product.
Now
whether
or
not
this
actually
lands
as
part
of
core
or
if
it's
a
separate
nougat
package
that
we
bundle
and
ship,
but
it's
it's
official
right,
I
think
that's
really
the
perhaps
the
bigger
question
here
is:
do
we
make
this
official
how
we
deliver
it?
B
What
nougat
package
it's
in
that
sort
of
thing
is
really
not
a
not
a
big
deal.
Let's
see
what
else
do
we
have
here?
Philippe
has
contributed
autofit
font
support
for
labels,
so
we
have
an
enum
apply.
So,
just
another:
wonderful,
not
just
another,
wonderful
Oktoberfest
contribution
to
be
discussed
and
entertained
and
I
mean
how
can
you
not
like
it?
He
put
and
he
put
in
an
emoji
on
the
end
of
the
label
that
gets
attention
right,
like
whatever
it
takes
to
get
attention?
B
Yep,
here's
one
from
Pedro,
I
was
gonna,
say
Pedro
I
wanted
to
check.
I
always
want
to
check
and
make
sure
I
get
some
names
right.
So
we
have
line
break
mode
on
labels,
of
course,
so
it
could
be
useful
to
have
that
also
on
buttons.
I'm,
not
you
know
hundred
percent
sure
that
this
one
will
get
through,
because
you
know
we
have
to
look
at
how
each
platform
handles
that
and
how
would
it
would
take
to
implement
it?
Of
course,
he's
done.
B
It
looks
like
the
work
for
iOS,
Android
and
uwp,
which
is
great,
so
I
assume
that
that
it
is
doable
because
the
PR
exists.
We'd
need
some
before
and
after
screenshots,
though,
include
those
include
those
so
yeah
cool
stuff
coming
from
from
Pedro
their
visual
states
for
the
switch
for
telling
when
things
are
on
and
off,
so
a
visual
state
manager
came
a
little
bit
later
to
the
xamarin
forms
library,
and
so
not
all
controls
have
States
declared
for
them.
B
There
are
a
set
of
common
states
that
I
think
everything
implements,
but
you
know
when
you
have
specific
States
to
something
it's
not
quite
there
yet.
So
that
is
actually
one
of
the
things
that
is
being
added
to
carousel
view
is
full
full
implementation
of
state
support,
which
will
make
it
much
easier
to.
Let's
say
you
want
your
Center
item
to
be
larger
than
your
side
items
and
you
want
them
to
transition
that'll
be
much
easier
to
do
in
the
future,
with
States,
so
cool
stuff
there,
and
who
did
this
dirty
Sh.
Thank
you
Turkish.
B
B
I,
don't
ever
really
want
to
leave
my
my
forms
code
if
I
don't
have
to
like
I,
chose
a
cross-platform
library
to
to
have
that
optimized
experience
so
we'd
love
to
see
this.
This
get
merged
yeah,
it
is
still
open,
but
yeah.
You
can
essentially
very
easily
set
your
status
bar
color
and
style.
What
are
the
styles?
The.
A
B
A
A
B
B
Adding
a
you
WP,
this
is
from
Brian
McComb,
yep,
Brian,
mccomber,
sorry
and
yeah.
Adding
a
display
prompts
to
UDP.
So
this
is
something
that
we
have
now
for
Android
and
iOS
and
I
guess
it
had
not
already
been
implemented
for
you
to
BP.
I
actually
didn't
know
that
it
wasn't
already
there.
So
thank
you
for
adding
that
filling
that
gap
yeah.
So.
B
Now
I
I
saw
another
request
for
adding
placeholder
text
because
I
don't
believe
these
implementations
support
placeholder
text
for
the
entry
field,
so
that
might
be
something
that
gets
added
soon
right
but
nice
to
see
you
WP
continuing
to
get
some
love.
We
talked
about
this
one
already.
That's
a
duplicate.
B
Have
placeholder
for
wherever
you
have
an
entry
and
if
you
use
FF
image,
you
know
that
you
can
easily
add
placeholder
images
there.
So
it's
basically
your
default
image,
while
your
actual
image
might
be
loading
from,
say
the
web
and
so
yeah.
This
is
a
nice
I
think
makes
sense,
would
be
a
nice
addition.
No
C
is
anybody
objecting
and
complaining,
looks
like
hobby
or
had
a
little
feedback?
I,
don't
see
anybody
blocking
it?
B
Mean
I
when
I,
when
I
use,
FF
image,
I
absolutely
use
that
that
one,
but
I
would
apps.
You
know
it's
always
nice
to
not
have
to
bring
in
third-party
libraries
if
you
don't
have
to
cool
well,
that
is
what
I
have
from
a
from
a
PR
standpoint.
So
were
there
any
other
questions
in
the
chat
that
we
wanted
to
go
over.
A
B
Why
would
it
not
be
oh,
my
gosh,
so
xamarin
is
absolutely
part
of
dotnet
5.
Absolutely
you
can
use
net
core
as
well,
and
more
of
that
support
will
be
coming.
You
can
do
it
where
dinette
core
is
the
the
dotnet
of
choice
for
for
what
you're
running
on
right,
so
so
dotnet
five
in
particular,
you
know
it's
gonna
ship.
What
November
of
next
year?
That's
the
public
road
map
right.
C
B
We're
working
with
the
team
and
with
our
own
teams
to
make
sure
that
the
experiences
that
we
expect
to
have
will
be
there.
So
the
experiences
are
things
like
full
sdk
project
style
being
able
to
be
on
the
same
dotnet
build
net
new
stack
of
things,
which
of
course
opens
up
a
wonderful
opportunity
to
have
our
experience
within
Visual
Studio
code.
That's
not
a
promise,
but
that's
good.
That
gets
us
much
closer
to
that
whole
story.
B
It
means
that
all
of
the
SDKs
would
potentially
be
shipped
as
nougat
packages,
so
not
just
embedded
into
the
the
installer
for
Visual
Studio,
but
also
available
in
the
same
way
that
you
can
get
when
you
I
now
as
a
new
package.
So
so
absolutely
we're
all
we're
all
we're
all
on
board.
We're
all
fully
invested
fully
supported.
A
B
B
So
if
you
go
look
at
our
our
github
and/or,
your
github,
it's
not
just
ours,
it's
yours,
so
you
can
look
at
what's
actually
on
the
road
ahead
and
a
few
things
here
need
to
be
tweaked.
I,
don't
believe
this
one
got
merged
in
time
to
make
it
into
four-four
so
that
one's
gonna
get
bumped.
But
this
one
is
done
so
I
think
I
actually
started
marking
that
as
completed
somebody
called
me
got
distracted.
But
then
you
look
at
the
work
ahead.
B
There
aren't
any
major
controls
from
us
that
are
on
the
near
horizon,
which
isn't
to
say
that
we
don't
have
some
things
we
would
like
to
do.
But
what
this
does
mean
is
that
a
lot
of
the
work
that
is
going
to
land
in
four
five,
four,
six,
four
seven
is
going
to
be
community
PR
contributions.
Some
of
those
will
be
things
that
you
know
will
hopefully
be
able
to
continue
collaborating
with
to
get
the
contributor
to
push
them
across
the
finish
line.
B
There
are
some
key
things
for
like
a
Phase
two
that
we
need
to
bring
to
those
based
on
the
feedback
we've
had
since
we
shipped
them
earlier
this
year.
So
both
of
those
had
been
out
since
well
I
think
visual
Shipton
was
in
March
and
then
May
is
when
we
shipped
shell
and
and
so
we've
gotten
good
feedback
there
that
they
are
extremely
useful
to
a
lot
of
people
and
for
other
people.
There
are
these
things
that
we
need
to
to
mature
and
to
grow.
So
that
makes
sense
that's
how
products
evolve
and
grow.
B
So
we
do
want
to
do
those
things.
We
are
working
on
those
things
now,
but
really
by
and
large,
it's
stabilizing
what
we
have
and
taking
care
of
these
PRS.
So
great
question.
Thank
you
for
asking.
Thank
you
for
contributing.
Hopefully
one
of
those
is
yours
who
asked
that
question
that
was
Clifford
yes,
Clifford's,
like
I,
want
my
PR
merged
man.
A
B
A
B
A
Gonna
be
amazing:
we
got
that
when
we,
when
we
get
it
because
Hawtree
reload
force
amell's
excellent,
get
it
for
c-sharp
amazing
yeah,.
B
The
clear
response
has
been.
This
is
great,
but
we
want
or-
and
that's
the
but
we
want
the,
but
we
want
is
give
me
more.
Give
me
more,
you
know
I'm
hungry.
This
is
proven
that
I
that
I'm
we're
onto
something
just
keep
feet
and
beast.
So
that's
the
beast.
You
want
to
be
feeding,
not
not
the
beast
of
you
know,
dealing
with
other
stuff,
actually.
A
B
A
Microsoft
learned,
certification,
I,
don't
think,
there's
well.
There
is
kind
of
a
certification
that
they
announced
that
ignite
I'm
going
to
have
to
find
out
about
that
tune
into
the
next
samer
and
developer.
Podcast
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
whether
it's
a
full
on
cert
or
what
that's
going
to
be
yep.
We
all
miss
salmon
university.
That's,
unfortunately,
that
one
disappeared
on
us,
but
they're
working
on
some
pretty
cool
stuff
over
there,
and
hopefully
in
the
next
couple
of
months,
there'll
be
a
rolling
that
out
so
even.
B
Though
you
don't
have
salmon
university,
you
do
have
kim
Philpott's
live
twitch
streaming
every
Friday
in
the
u.s.
president.
No
it's
Thursday
night
in
the
u.s.
Friday
in
Australia
and
I
mean
that's.
Basically,
you
you'll
learn
so
much
just
tune
into
that
or
watch
back
the
videos
that
are
out
there.
You'll
learn
so
much
I
learned
every
time.
I
tuned
in
yep.
A
B
Hussein
was
asking
about
Zam
Jeff
summit
I,
don't
know
anything
about
samjoe
summit.
I
know
that
that
there
are
discussions
that
Dan
and
team,
maybe
you're
part
of
the
team.
Husain
are
working
on
figuring
out
when
we
can
do
another
xamarin
developer
summit
and
I
say
we
we,
as
in
the
community,
we
not
the
Microsoft.
We
so
Microsoft
participates
in
terms
of
you
know
celebrating
and
sending
speakers
and
things
like
that.
But
it
is
a
it
is
a
community
driven
event.
So
I'm,
not
the
one
that
I
know
it's
speak
about
that.
A
B
I
can't
hear
more
I
know
that
there's
there's
some
rumblings
of
maybe
something
popping
up
across
the
ocean
to
so
from
a
different
crowd.
Wow
there's
so
many
great
things
really
happening
in
the
community
and
I
feel
like
our
job
is
really
just
to
tell
people
about
it.
Yeah.
A
B
A
B
A
B
That
so
I
wanted
to
show
Matt
that
zamel
hot
reload
or
not
see
Omaha
reload,
the
hot
restart
and
believe
it
or
not.
The
reason
I
can't
do
that
is,
is
Apple
Developer
account
for
some
reason:
I'm
getting
an
error
about
the
Apple
Developer
account
provisioning
I
can't
sign
into
my
account
mm-hmm,
so
I
don't
know
if
Apple's,
in
the
midst
of
doing
something
right
now
or
what's
going
on,
but
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
point
the
finger
in
that
direction
at
this
point
so
we'll
have
to
follow
up
at
another
time
all
right
cool.
Damn.