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A
A
But
before
we
get
into
the
arbitram
discussion,
though,
we'd
like
to
start
with
an
update
of
dx
ventures
and
its
various
initiatives,
including
the
opposite
hats
projects,
I
guess
skye-
are
you
around
to
take
that
away.
B
Yeah,
just
to
give
a
a
brief
update,
so
dx
ventures-
initial,
our
first
ever
investment
grant
was
actually
into
opolis.
Opolis
has
been
growing,
dx
dao
as
part
of
being
a
member
of
opolis
was
due
to
receive
like
work
token,
which
is
the
governance
token
of
the
system.
B
Up
till
now,
the
opolis
system
really
was
deployed
and
was
being
mainly
used
on
on
polygon
and
dxdow,
doesn't
have
a
currently
have
a
base
on
polygon,
so
there
was
some
back
and
forth
about
where
and
how
dx
dow
should
receive
its
work,
tokens
and-
and
so
currently,
in
the
last
couple
weeks,
dx
dow
received
its
first
tranche
of
work
tokens
onto
into
its
mainnet
treasury
and,
and
there
is
a
a
post
up
on
the
forum
about
a
few
different
options
that
dxdow
has
to
do
with
with
the
work
tokens
there
will
there
could
be
liquidity
pools
on
swapper,
and
this
could
ideally
be
on
mainnet
or
or
arbitrary.
B
B
Typically
in
the
work
in
the
opolis
system,
a
bunch
of
people
are
getting
streamed
work
token
on
an
actual
polygon
using
superfluid,
but
in
dx
dow
scenario,
where
we
aren't
able
to
receive
the
super
fluid
tokens
we'll
likely
get
additional
work
tokens
on
like
a
quarterly
basis,
so
dx
dow
will
continue
to
be
as
a
as
a
key
member
of
the
opera
system
will
continue
to
like
receive
work
tokens
over
time
and
so
thinking
about
what
we
want
to
do
with
those
work
tokens
you
know,
participate
in
governance,
stake
use
them
in
liquidity,
pools
yeah.
B
We
we
should
make
that
decision
and
then
the
most
immediate
topic
with
dx
ventures
is
related
to
hats
and
hats.
There's
two
different
initiatives
happening
with
the
x
dow
dx
dow.
B
So
hats
is
a
is
a
kind
of
a
bug,
bounty,
a
decentralized
bug,
bounty
protocol
that
has
vaults
that
incentivize
white
hat
hackers
to
like
report
problems
to
to
your
to
your
project
and
and
receive
reward,
and
so
dx
dow
is
a
is
a
heavy
participant
and
early
participant
in
this
in
this
system,
which
is
you
know,
alongside
a
few
others,
but
in
addition
to
that,
dx
dow
through
dx
ventures,
has
has
signaled
that
it
wants
to
lean
into
you,
know,
investing
or
having
a
heavy
heavier
stake
in
the
hats,
protocol
and
and
ecosystem,
and
so
there
is
a
live
proposal
that
I
think
just
has
been
passed.
B
Boosting
that
can
be
voted
on
now
on
mainnet
made
by
the
hats
team
to
ask
for
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
grant
grant
investment
in
in
exchange
for
additional
hats
tokens
so
that
dx
dow
can
become
a
a
a
key
stakeholder
in
the
hats,
ecosystem
and
so
yeah.
That's
live
on
mainnet,
so
go
ahead
and
vote.
B
Even
you
know
gas
is
expensive,
but
it
would
be
great
to
get
some
signal
there
and
or
not
signal
but
actual
like
a
proposal
to
to
actually
make
the
investment
so
yeah.
If
there's
any
questions
happy
to
answer
otherwise,.
A
Guys
just
for
context
or
anyone
here
that
might
not
know
at
the
end
of
every
kind
of
segment,
we
leave
the
door
open
for
open
questions,
anyone's
welcome
to
unmute,
step
up
and
and
ask
anything.
People
do
leave
some
questions
with
me,
though.
So
I
can
kick
that
off
here.
A
A
I
think
that's
referring
to
vc.
We
did
a
presentation,
two
community.
B
Calls
ago
yeah
so
there
so
dx
ventures
is
which
is
really
like.
Dick's
dow
and
its
community
has
been
figuring
out
its
identity
and
like
investments
just
for
like
investment
sake,
are
less
interesting
to
dx
style
community.
It
seems
and
and
projects
that
are
really
this
ties.
You
know
this
is
in
line
with
the
initial.
B
Like
the
initial
points,
when
dx
ventures
was
was
founded,
but
it's
you
know
it's
developed
over
time
where
really
a
project
that
dix
dao
can
use
is
building
something
that
that
dao's
need
is
where
ventures
would
really
prefer
to
lean
into,
and
that
shows
would
like
this
investment
in
hats,
where
we're
a
big
early
user.
B
But
we
also
want
to
be
a
big
stakeholder
and
so
there's
a
handful
of
projects
that
or
there's
a
lot
of
projects
that
dxdow
and
dx
ventures
have
looked
at
over
the
last
couple
months
and
yeah
there's
a
list
where
it's
being
tracked
in
things.
There's
a
couple
projects
coming
out
there
still
that
we're
talking
to
that.
B
B
So
there
is,
you
know,
always
an
ongoing
list,
and
it's
and
the
door
is
always
open,
but
fitting
the
criteria
of
like
really
being
something
that
dx
dao
could
use
and
and
other
dolls
could
use,
and
it
makes
sense,
is
where
I
think
we
would
lean
into
basically.
A
Thanks,
we
have
a
comment
from
mango
here:
atlantis
world
seems
promising,
it'd
be
cool
to
get
in.
On
that
do
we
have
any
updates
on
any
potential
stance
there.
B
Yeah
atlantis
world
is
a
unique
project.
It's
you
know
it's
the
metaverse.
It's
trying
to
combine
the
d5
metaverse.
There
are
a
handful
of
already
d5
projects
that
have
given
some
grants
to
be
a
part
of
atlantis
world
from
the
start.
B
Stow
is
considering
this,
I
think.
Maybe
there
will
be
like
a
more
detailed
post
soon,
but
hearing
what
the
community
thinks
about
like
like
an
investment
or
a
you
know
a
grant
into
like
an
early
metaverse
opportunity.
It
would
be
great
to
get
from
the
from
the
community.
You
know.
Obviously
the
the
metaverse
is
huge
and
there's
lots
of
different
worlds
and
ecosystems
out
there.
B
So,
like
there's,
also
the
debate
of
like
deciding
which
one
to
lean
into,
and
so
I
think
there
should
be
more
discussion
around
atlantis
world,
but
if
people
are
excited
about
it,
yeah,
that's
really
good
to
hear
and
and
come
join.
The
conversation.
A
Cool-
and
I
got
one
more
here
left
with
me-
maybe
it
was
partially
addressed
earlier,
but
just
for
programming
here
they
asked,
I
heard
work
was
only
on
polygon,
will
dx
staff
finally
be
deploying
to
polygon.
B
Good
question
so
dx
dow
does
not
have
a
plan
to
have
like
a
a
rep
dx
dial
base
on
polygon.
Obviously,
arbitram
is
the
focus
right
now,
but
dx
dow
does
now
have
a
a
like
squad,
multisig
that
has
the
ability
to
to
do
stuff
on
polygon.
A
Awesome
thanks
guy
any
other
questions
for
dx
ventures
here,
otherwise,
we'll
be
moving
on.
A
Great
guys,
let's
move
on
to
the
arbitrary
deployment
updates,
I
think
john,
hopefully
is
around.
It
was
planned
to
give
a
comprehensive
update
on
our
deployment,
what
happened
and
how
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
it.
C
Hey
al,
like
you
didn't
said,
I'd
like
to
cover
the
background.
Why
why
we
were
focused
on
arbitrary?
Why
we're
doing
dx
vote
cover?
What
the
original
plan
was
and
then
talk
about
the
fatal
flaw
in
the
configuration
which
caused
the
issues
that
we
now
have
and
require
redeployment
and
then
talk
about
what
has
been
going
on
to
prepare
for
redeployment
and
what
the
new
plan
is
now
going
forward,
and
then
I
think
from
there.
C
Of
course
we
can
take
questions
and
but
we
will
be
going
into
the
farming
details
after
that,
and
I
think
either
zed
or
keenan
will
will
cover
that
part,
but
to
jump
in
here.
So
we've
been
tracking
as
a
community,
the
development
of
layer,
twos
and
in
particular
the
optimistic
roll-ups
since
last
year-
and
you
know
the
two
that
seem
to
be
most
prominent-
are
optimism
and
arbitrary
and
pretty
early
on
the
the
focus
turned
to
arbitram.
C
For
a
couple
of
of
reasons
and
to
talk
about
like
why
we're
focused
on
on
the
optimistic
roll-ups,
dx
tau
has
an
emphasis
on
decentralization
and
therefore
we.
I
think
the
community
cares
very
deeply
about
the
security
of
any
chains
being
tied
to
ethereum
and
so
layer.
Two.
C
I
think
the
definition
that
I
prefer-
and
I
think
we
most
widely
use
in
the
dxdot
community-
is
a
change
that
inherits
security
properties
from
player
one
from
the
main
main
chain,
and
I
think
that
definition
makes
the
most
sense,
because
you
have
that
kind
of
visual
conceptual
picture
of
layer.
Two
is
actually
being
built
on
top
of
layer
ones
and
like
inheriting
this
stability
and
security
from
that
layer,
one
versus
a
side
chain
which
has
its
own
security.
C
So
when
you
think
of
like
x-die,
which
dxta
was
deployed
on
that
that's
a
side
chain,
we
like
it
because
it
helped
us
prepare
for
layer,
twos,
it's
a
great
environment
to
do
things
at
a
low
cost,
but
it
comes
with
the
understanding
that
it
does
not
have
the
same
decentralization
or
inherent
security
from
ethereum.
But
in
you
know,
binance
smart
chain,
polygon,
those
are
all
side
chains
right
and
so
looking
specifically
at
layer
two.
So
why
are
we
excited
about
the
optimistic
roll
ups?
C
C
It's
essentially
just
an
exchange
and
what
the
dx
style
community
and
with
the
excel
suite
of
products
is
most
interested
in,
is
the
ability
to
deploy
our
own
products
right
and
what
that
kind
of
requires
is
you
know
most
practically
the
evm
compatible
chain
or
like
more
generally,
like
a
generalized
layer
to
solution,
and
you
know,
there's
a
few
teams
working
on
that.
C
I
think
most
notably,
you
have
the
optimistic
roll-ups
like
optimism
and
arbitrary,
and
then
you
also
have
the
zk
roll
ups
like
zk,
sync
from
matter
labs,
the
kind
of
general
I
think
view
on
this
is
that
the
optimistic
roll-ups
are
coming
out.
First,
and
I
mean-
and
here
here
we
are,
they
are
actually
live,
although
with
admin
control
and
then
why
did
we
choose
arbitrary
over
optimism?
I
think
there
are
two
two
reasons.
One
was
from
talking
to
other
community
members
and
folks
that
had
dealt
with
both
teams.
C
We
had
the
impression
that
arbitrary
was
actually
a
bit
further
along
that
wasn't
always
clear
from
what
was
being
talked
about
with
media
releases
and
stuff.
You
know
optimism
came
out
pretty
hot
with
some
of
their
marketing,
but
but
even
through
that,
we
were
pretty
confident
in
the
idea
that
arbitration
was
ahead
and
I
think
that
is
actually
born
out
to
be
true,
while
technically
optimism
did
open
up
to
end
users
earlier
than
arbitram
and
has
more
capital
on
their
chain
right
now.
C
Arbitram
is
actually
open
for
any
projects
to
deploy
on
today.
Right
and
so
optimism,
you
there's
still
kind
of
a
queue
of
of
projects.
Onboarding
now,
that's
not
to
say,
like
arbitrary,
does
still
maintain
admin
control,
as
does
optimism,
and
they
are
gating
the
bridge,
so
the
tokens
have
to
get
weightless
and
forward.
C
We
were
getting
great
support
from
them
and
they
were
helping
us
develop
on
their
their
test
nets,
whereas
optimism
was
pretty
constrained
in
terms
of
who
they
were
helping,
and
I
mean
that's
not
to
criticize
them
or
their
approach.
You
know
that
was
their
choice
and
they
have
limited
resources
too,
of
course,
but
it
was
less
accessible
to
dx
tao.
So
I
think
that
you
know
pretty
much
sealed
the
deal
there
right.
C
D
C
Why
are
we
even
working
on
dx
vote?
Why
is
that
being
deployed
to
arbitrarium?
So
as
those
familiar
with
the
excel
know,
it's
built
on
dow
stack
stacks
framework.
There's
smart
contracts,
there's
the
alchemy
front
end!
That's
where
dxdow
was
launched.
It
still
operates
on
those
platforms.
Today
on
mainnet
and
xty,
however,
the
dowstek
team
has
pivoted
and
is
no
longer
focusing
or
developing
either.
C
Platforms
and
of
course,
these
platforms
are
quite
important
for
dxdow
in
its
future.
So
that
is
the
reason
why
we
are
are
working
on
dx
votes.
There
are
actually
instances
of
that
that
you
can
access
the
main
net
and
xdi
deployments
of
dx
dial,
but
arbitram
is
the
first
time
that
dxvote
is
being
deployed
from
the
smart
contract
level
and
is
like
the
you
know,
the
only
base
or
the
the
only
front
end
that
we're
actually
using
on
arbor
trim.
C
It's
based
on
the
dow
stack
contracts
with
some
addition,
some
new
schemes,
the
ability
to
do
dxd
staking
instead
of
the
dow
stack
token,
which
is
gen
so
those
are
exciting
and
then
the
on
the
front
end
is
completely
open
source
and
is
new
and
does
not
rely
on
the
subgraph,
which
has
often
given
us
difficulties
and
with
the
the
level
of
funds
and
operations
that
dx
style
have
the
uptime
and
reliability
of
the
governance.
Interfaces
is
of
utmost
importance.
C
So
those
are
the
motivating
factors
there,
and
so
the
plan
was,
you
know,
has
been
to
deploy
the
expo
to
arbitrary
into
production
and
to
manage
the
swapper
deployment
on
arbor
trim
and
so
with
the
excitement
on
auburn
trim.
The
plan
was
in
and
has
been
executed,
to
launch
the
swapper
token
on
our
drum
timing,
that
launch
with
arbitrariums
and
because
of
the
perceived
momentum
that
we
think
could
be
gained
there
around
the
first
kind
of
generalized
open
layer,
two
solution
to
be
launched
on
ethereum.
C
We
felt
that
the
timing
was
good
to
go
out
with
the
swapper
token,
and
so
the
original
plan
and
there's
a
very
detailed
post
on
dow
talk
that
outlines
all
the
the
technical
procedure
to
enable
the
community
to
carry
it
out
was
to
deploy.
You
know,
swapper,
dx
and
and
the
swapper
token
to
arbitrarium,
and
it
required
three
proposal.
Steps
and
a
thing
to
note
here
is
that
at
at
that
time
you
know
this
was
set
up
before
the
gates
were
open
to.
C
Anyone
on
arbitrary
and
development
was
restricted
to
a
white
list,
so
that
influenced
this
this
plan,
and
so
the
first
step
was
for
a
community
member
to
deploy
the
swapper
token
and
to
make
a
proposal
on
alchemy
or
dx
vote
on
mainnet
to
inform
the
community
that
the
token
you
know
hypothetical
token
have
been
deployed
and
what
the
deployer
address
was
the
dev
team.
Then
let
the
arbor
drum
team
know
the
deployer
address
so
that
it
could
be
white
listed.
C
The
next
step
was
for
the
dx
vote
deployment
to
go
up
by
the
dx
dow
team
and
that
a
proposal
to
be
made
kind
of
identifying
what
the
addresses
are
there
to
so,
like
quote,
anoint
the
base
on
arbitrary
and
then
the
final
step
was
for
the
same
community
member
who
deployed
the
token
to
deploy
now
that
they
have
been
whitelisted
to
deploy
all
the
swapper
contracts
onto
arbitrary
and
deploy,
build
and
deploy
the
latest
release
of
the
front
end
and
make
a
proposal
on
dxtap's
governance
to
update
the
content
hash
on
the
ens
domain,
so
swapper.eth
and
to
yeah.
C
So
when
that
proposal
passed,
swapper
date
was
updated
and
everybody
could
go
and
claim
their
airdrop
and
such
and
used
swapper
on
operation,
one
yeah
when
and
that
that
timing
was
such
that
when
arbitration
went
live
that
that
was
available
so
that
all
executed
very
well
and
was
great
and
and
the
airdrop
I'd
say,
is
going
quite
well.
There's
been
over
900
claims,
I
think
700
something
addresses
still
hold
swapper,
there's
like
almost
70
providing
liquidity
on
the
swapper
eth
pair
on
arbitrary
and
I'd
say
like
pretty
happy
with
the
price.
C
So
that's
very
subjective.
I
think
yeah
overall.
That
part
has
gone
well,
but
now
so
on
to
the
point
where
we
had
a
problem,
so
swapper
itself
is
working
great
on
arbitrary,
but
there
is
a
need
for
it
to
be
governed
right
so
and
feel
free
to
interrupt
me
and
I'm
kind
of
on
the
long
head.
So
I
see
there's
like
comments
that
I'm
not
really
paying
attention
to,
and
so
keenan
feel
free
to
interrupt
me.
But.
A
So
we
can
just
take
a
quick
question
right.
We
have
a
couple
questions
here:
yeah
just
for
programming,
turf,
new
bass.
Is
it
a
challenge
for
us
to
also
go
to
optimism
related
to
obviously
arbitrary
deployment.
C
Yeah,
so
there
is
overhead
to
all
of
this
right
like
setting
up
a
base
on
a
new
chain
requires
development
work
right.
It
requires
attention
from
people
doing
governance
right.
So
I
do
think
that
is
a
limiting
factor
right.
We
can't
just
press
a
button
and
like
deploy
to
all
chains.
I
don't
I
don't
think
that's
practical.
A
Cool,
I
guess
the
only
other
question
was:
what
should
I?
What
should
I
do
when
swapper
migration,
but
we
can
cover
that
in
a
little
bit
nathan.
C
Okay,
great
so
yeah
so
the
issue,
so
so
we
we
need
dx
vote
the
base
to
govern
the
swapper
deployment.
It
sets
the
fees
it
controls.
What
happens
to
the
fees
right
like
that
that
power
would
the
plan
is
to
hand
that
over
to
the
swapper
guild,
so
the
swapper
token
holders
then
have
all
that
control
over
at
the
base,
the
fees,
the
and
and
other
aspects
of
the
the
front
end
and
launching
it
right.
C
So
governance
is
really
key
and
even
though
dx
vote
had
successfully
deployed,
the
first
proposals
were
intended
to
set
the
permissions
up
so
that
farming
campaigns
could
be
launched,
and
this
was
about
was
wednesday
last
week,
although
it
feels
like
a
longer
time
ago
at
this
point
that
that
proposal
succeeded
and
executed,
but
it
did
not
actually
set
the
permissions
and
on
pawn
inspection,
this
error
was
uncovered
and
the
error
was
kind
of
due
to
a
misunderstanding.
C
This
meant
that
none
of
the
schemes
that
we
have
on
arbitrary
could
actually
pass
any
proposals
via
the
boosting
process
and-
and
those
are
familiar
know
that
that's
pretty
critical
for
passing
proposals
with
dx
dao.
So
the
next
question
was
well.
Can
we
fix
this
with
an
absolute
majority
vote?
We
don't
often
get
those
done,
but
it
has
happened
on
xdi
with
some
frequency
and
on
occasion,
a
main
net.
C
However,
when
we
inspected
like
the
feasibility
of
doing
that,
there
was-
I
don't
know
if
you'd
really
say
this
is
an
error,
but
there
was
a
way
that
a
difference,
a
discrepancy
in
how
the
the
rep
distribution
was
cloned
onto
arbitrarily
compared
to
x9,
where
we
have
had
success
on
absolute
majority
of
votes.
So
all
the
address
it
came
from
cloning
mainnet
addresses
were
included.
The
smart
contract
addresses
are
where
there's
an
issue,
because
your
smart
contact
address
can't
be
the
same
across
different
chains.
C
So
you
it
requires
some
mapping
the
same
mapping
that
had
been
carried
out
for
rep
holders
with
xdi
was
used
on
arbitrom,
but
the
difference
was
that
smart
contracts
that
did
not
map
they
had
been
excluded
on
next
day,
but
they
were
included
on
arbor
trim
and
since
smart
contracts
can't
be
used,
that
rep
essentially
is
useless
on
arbitrary
that
could
have
been
could
have
been
fixed,
but
it
limited
the
ability
to
pass
absolute
majority
and,
and
basically
when
we
assessed
it,
it
seemed
essentially
impossible,
and
so
that
brought
us
to
the
plan
of
redeploying
and
so
redeploying
it
will
entail
redeploying
the
governance
base.
C
Swapper
contracts
themselves
and
the
swapper
token
now,
while
existing
swapper
token
in
theory,
could
have
been
used
into
the
future.
There
is
a
decent
chunk
of
the
supply
that
is
locked
in
this
dead
base,
and
so
the
decision
was
made
to
kind
of
go
ahead
with
redeployment
of
the
token
itself,
and
so
when
we
were
looking
at
how
to
do
that,
really
the
only
option
was
to
convert
it
using
a
converter
onto
one.
C
C
If
you've
already
done
that
step
and
important
to
note
that,
because
swapper
itself
is
being
redeployed,
any
liquidity
on
the
old
version
is
going
to
have
to
be
migrated
to
the
new
one
to
be
visible
in
swapper.eth
on
the
dap
itself
and
yeah,
and
so
I
could
I
could
go
on
the
little.
I
could
also
touch
on
where
we
are
in
that
and
what
the
plan
is.
I
can
pause
now
for
questions.
C
C
Yeah,
so
we've
been
very
busy
people
working
through
the
weekends
and
and
a
lot
of
people
jumping
in
a
real
valiant
effort
to
test
and
prepare
the
redeployment
and
I'd
say
we're
getting
very
close
to
the
point
of
those
releases
being
ready.
We've
done
a
lot
more
testing
than
you
know.
We
had
previously
done
covering
a
lot
of
the
cases,
including
farming
proposals
and
other
edge
cases,
and
so
I'd
say
in
the
next
couple
days.
Hopefully
it
will
be
ready
and
it
will
evolve
a
deployment
of
you
know.
C
We
don't
have
the
white
listing
issue
anymore,
so
there's
no
need
to
like,
for
the
token
to
go
first,
but
it'll
involve
a
deployment
of
tx
vote
and
the
new
swapper
contracts
with
the
converter,
and
the
key
thing
to
watch
will
be
when
a
proposal
is
made
to
update
the
dap
itself
at
swapper98,
so
that
build
would
point
to
the
new
version
and
when
that
passes,
and
that
timeline
typically
takes
like
four
days
to
pass
would
be
off
to
the
races
with
the
new
deployments.
C
When
we
first
deploy
the
base.
The
idea
is
to
have
the
rep
distribution
concentrated
at
the
very
beginning,
with
a
few
holders.
It'll
have
all
the
same
addresses
with
the
same
rep
but
extra
for
a
handful,
essentially
like
similar
to
how
there's
like
a
dev
multisig.
That
would
be
basically
in
control
at
the
very
beginning
to
make
sure
that
the
everything
is
stabilized
and
that
the
parameters
are
working.
C
Basically,
some
training
wheels
for
the
first
couple
days,
but
hopefully
everything
is
is
set
before
that
first
proposal
even
is
set
to
pass,
and
so
what
would
be
in
the
same
spot
as
we
should
have
been
last
week,
and
then
farming
can
commence
to
mango's
question.
Is
it
not
possible
to
get
absolute
majority
for
the
swapper
token
conversion
proposal
so
for
the
update
to
the
dap
rather
than
taking
four
days?
It
is.
C
C
And
sort
of
maybe
part
of
the
issue
there
is
to
set
up
the
farming.
Those
are
proposals
themselves
on
arbitrary
and
you
need
to
set
a
start
date
to
the
farming
campaign
and
it's
kind
of
bad.
If,
if
you
get
the
start
date
book
to
be
before
the
proposal
passes,
so
there's
a
bit
of
a
necessity
there,
I
think
to
be
conservative
on
those
farming
proposals
anyways,
which
will
take
a
day
and
a
half
with
the
swapper
wallet
scheme
on
arbitrary.
D
I
I
just
want
to
note
that
this
is
like
I
don't
know.
This
is
like
one
of
the
you
know
sort
of.
I
don't
want
to
say
issues
because
that
might
be
like
a
bit
too
negative,
but
you
know
being
completely
and
fully
unchained
and
doing
things
in
a
decentralized
way
from
the
start.
So
you
know
sometimes
you'd
have
bugs
and
yeah.
We
can
sort
of
remedy
that
with
like
more
testing
and
and
trying
things
beforehand,
but
you
know
these
things
will
happen,
we'd
like
to
avoid
them,
but
you
know
sometimes
it's
inevitable.
D
C
I
mean
this
is
crypto,
so
I
guess
we're
familiar
with
issues
coming
up.
I
think
we
we
did
take
a
very
aggressive
and
ambitious
like
we
did
set
a
very
ambitious
plan
here
and,
like
I
tried
to
explain
that
kind
of
at
the
beginning.
Why
that
that
was
the
case
I
mean
it
was
really
trying
to
push
to
be
timed
with
the
launch
of
arbitration
was
the
main
motivation
there
and
yeah.
C
I
think
there
are
lessons
for
sure
to
be
learned
like
we
were
spread
a
bit
then
did
not
do
enough
testing,
although
the
the
max
seconds
thing
may
have
been
actually
pretty
tricky
to
catch
at
the
end
of
the
day,
and
some
of
this
is
just
coming
with
the
territory
of
kind
of
taking
control
of
our
own
destiny
with
the
governance
platform,
whereas
we
have
previously
been
relying
on
it.
You
know
an
external
team
to
run
the
platform.
C
One
of
the
things
we've
been
talking
about
on
amongst
the
development
developers
at
dxdow
is
focusing
on
a
smaller
number
of
priorities
and
being
spread
less
thin,
and
so
that
was
already
sort
of
emotion,
that's
happening,
and
I
think
this
kind
of
experience
with
the
deployment
here
reinforces
the
idea
that
we
need
to
do
that
right.
That
there
needs
to
be
more
of
a
focus
and
we
need
to
have
a
deeper
bench
on
the
things
that
we're
actually
doing
and
deploying
and
not
be
so
spread
thin.
A
Well,
maybe
a
good
segue.
I
have
a
bunch
of
questions
left
with
me
surrounding
arbitrary
and
swapper.
Obviously
john's
been
speaking
for
a
while.
So
myself,
as
well
as
anyone
else,
that's
able
to
step
in
that
is
relevant
would
be
greatly
appreciated,
but
I
guess
the
first
question
here
is:
will
dx
vote
be
used
outside
of
arbitrary
for
dx
tau.
A
And
I
was
taking
a
nap.
Can
you
repeat
the
question?
That's
not
true.
By
the
way
in
the
comments
will
dx
vote
be
used
outside
of
arbitram
for
dx
dow?
Yes,
that's
the.
C
Goal
the
goal
is:
is
for
dx
to
be
the
governance
platform
for
dx
now,
and
so,
like
we
mentioned,
it
is
based
on
the
dow
stack
contracts
and
so
using
it
on
mainnet
at
the
smart
contract
level
doesn't
actually
require
a
mic
like
a
change
of
the
avatar
address.
C
It
would
just
require
updating
of
the
schemes
and
how
those
work,
of
course,
anything
like
that
that
controls
the
the
weight
governance
works
on
a
minute
is
a
very
serious
thing,
considering
the
size
of
the
treasury
and
the
other
assets
that
it
holds
and
that
it's
kind
of
at
the
center
of
all
the
external
governance,
and
so
we'll
we'll
definitely
be
taking
our
time
with
that
and
part
of
the
role
that
the
arbitration
deployment
serves
is
as
like
a
proving
grounds
for
dx
vote
right
to
show
that
we
are
truly
ready
to
move
on
to
main
net
with
it.
C
I
think
the
next
step
would
be
either
another
chain
deployment
on.
You
know,
if
maybe
optimism
or
something
or
using
it
on
on
xdi
instead
of
the
current
xdi
contracts
in
alchemy,
it
is
already.
D
C
Used
in
parallel
as
from
the
front
end
like
the
front
end
itself
is
being
used
in
parallel
on
xdi
and
mainnet
and
is
actually
helping
quite
a
bit
because,
like
we
said
when
that,
when
there's
issues
with
the
subgraph,
which
is
really
all
too
too
common,
it's
there
to
to
be
available
and
much
more
reliable
from
that.
From
that
perspective,.
A
C
Thankfully,
no
no
funds
were
lost,
yeah
like
yeah,
there
were
no
funds
impacted,
we
were
kind
of
maybe
scarily
close
to
funds
being
lost
since
we
lost
the
base,
but
there
were
no
funds
on
the
base.
Yet
there
were
plans
to
put
funds
there,
but
that
was
going
to
come
after
the
the
other
proposals.
So
thankfully
no
no
funds
were
lost
other
than
you
know.
The
funds
required
to
they
kind
of
pay
contributors
to
fix
the
issues
and
and
yeah
and
handle
that
kind
of
stuff.
A
Cool
and
then
moving
on
to
more
swapper
focus
questions,
maybe
in
a
call
on
a
couple
people
here.
When
will
dx
stats
show
arbitrum,
maybe
a
good
one
for
for
federico
if
you're
around
or
I
can
step
in
for
you.
E
Yeah,
so
we're
currently
working
on
that
and
I
think
we're
really
close-
we
might
see
a
release
or
a
proposal
for
release
going
up
by
the
end
of
this
week.
Yeah
there
were,
there
were
plans
to
to
work
on
it
sooner,
but
unfortunately,
this
this
thing
happened
so
priorities,
priorities,
kind
of
shifted
a
little
bit
but
should
be
up
the
proposal
by
the
end
of
the
week.
A
Awesome
and
just
some
additional
context
to
that
once
the
proposal
goes
live,
it
will
obviously
need
to
pass
to
point
the
dx
stats
domain
to
to
the
ens
hash
of
the
updated
release
so
expected
within
a
week
or
so
is
basically
the
timeline.
If
I'm
understanding
correctly,
I
have
a
question
from
ross
here.
Does
the
swapper
token
work
similarly
to
the
new
dxd
model,
where
it
is
used
in
conjunction
with
rep,
or
is
it
a
separate
model?
A
Maybe
I
can
try
to
explain
a
little
bit
here.
Swapper
is
going
to
utilize.
The
erc20
guild
contract
so
it'll
be
entirely
token
based
voting
by
the
community
and
not
have
any
affliction
with
the
current
rep
model
that
dxdow's
using
nor
the
governance
2.0
model
that
will
be
a
mix
of
token-based
voting
and
and
rep-faced
voting.
Maybe
john
anything.
I
I
miss
there.
A
Awesome
one
more
question
left
with
me:
if
I
haven't
claimed
swapper,
should
I
wait
john?
I
think
you
addressed
this
as
well,
but
to
be
super
clear,
regardless
of
when
you
claim
you'll
still
need
to
do
the
the
transition
to
the
new
swapper
token,
so
you
can
claim
today
you
can
claim
when
the
migration
is
actually
open,
it
doesn't
matter,
you'll
have
to
do
the
migration,
and
luckily
the
swapper
ui
will
point
directly
to
that
and
guide
you
through
the
process.
A
C
On
the
swapper
claim
itself,
but
but
to
be
clear:
if,
if
you
wanted
to
provide
liquidity,
you
may
want
to
wait
on
that
because
of
the
requirement
to
migrate
it
later
will
cost
extra
gas.
You
know
that's
sort
of
up
to
you.
I'd
probably
say
makes
more
sense
to
wait.
What
you
definitely
want
to
not
do
now
is
start
a
diy
farming
campaign
on
the
current
interface,
because
when
that's
updated,
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
see
it
anymore.
C
So
you
don't
want
to
be
locking
any
rewards
into
a
diy
farming,
not
that
that's
going
to
be
a
common
use
case,
but
there
was
somebody
that
we
caught
asking
questions
about
this
and
the
telegram
actually
planning
to
do
it.
So
I
was
glad
we
were
able
to
inform
them
of
what
was
happening
and
prevent
them
from
kind
of
locking
up
their
rewards
in
a
platform
that
wasn't
going
to
be
visible.
A
Cool
one
more
left
with
me
here:
what
pairs
will
dxw
be
supplying
liquidity
to
on
arbitrarum,
actually
might
be
a
good
opportunity
to
talk
about
dx,
dow's
liquidity
provision
to
arbitrarily
chris,
if
you're
around
and
have
a
window.
Maybe
I
can
step
in
for
you
if
you
are
busy
in
the
room.
F
Yeah,
just
on
the
liquidity,
provisioning
on
arbor
trump,
so
kind
of
another
piece
in
the
in
the
puzzle,
so
in
june,
dxdow
passed
as
part
of
a
arbitrary
launch
plan,
initially
signaled
support
to
commit
2.25
million
dollars
of
capital
in
the
arbitrary
the
dig
style
base
on
arbitrary
one
and
some
of
that
to
be
used
for
swapper
liquidity
and
up
the
250
000
to
be
used
for
general
operating
expenses.
F
F
Actually,
this
is
a
test
proposal,
though,
because
one
of
the
key
challenges
in
getting
liquidity
into
swap
our
number
trim
is
getting
the
funds
into
arbor
trump,
because
bridges
are
very
new
and
typically
the
way
that
geeksdale
has
gotten
funds
to
xdi
has
been
through
a
multi-sig
that
exists
on
both
mainnet
and
xdot.
But
of
course
that's
without
from
just
launching
some
of
that
infrastructure.
Isn't
there
so
there's?
Actually
not
a
gnosis,
safe?
F
No,
no
safe
is
not
compatible
on
our
one
right
now,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
trying
to
test
that
so
that's
kind
of
on
figuring
out
how
to
get
the
funds
actually
over
there
and
we've
ended
up
setting
up
actually
a
new
multi-sig
that
we
hope
can
be
across
different
chains
and
there's
a
proposal
to
test
that
there.
F
The
there's
actually
another
proposal
to
send
funds
on
this
one
would
be
much
larger
amount
that
is
actually
set
to
to
fail
in
the
next
day
or
so,
and
that's
partly
because,
as
john
was
mentioning
earlier,
when
we
were
going
with
the
overdrive
one
launch
plan,
we
were
being
very
aggressive
and
ambitious
and
planning
for
kind
of
all
the
flows
to
kind
of
come
at
once.
But
since
things
have
kind
of
slowed
down
a
little
bit
and
arbitrary
is
still
kind
of
getting
things
settled
up.
F
The
funds
just
aren't
really
ready
to
be
there
yet
and,
as
I
said,
there's
problems
with
the
gnosis
safe
there.
So
we're
having
to
really
test
that
to
make
sure
it'll
go
through
there.
F
So,
presumably
we'll
have
another
proposal
that
will
send
the
remaining
the
2.25
million
dollars
to
orbit
from
one
base
when
there's
some,
when
we
finish
testing
for
the
bridging
process
in
terms
of
what
those
assets
are
so
deekstyle
has
been
provisioning
liquidity
on
swapper
on
xci
and
mainnet
across
a
couple
different
pairs
for
this
one.
We
were
trying
to
be
a
little
bit
more
strategic
on
what
pairs
to
add
liquidity
on
on
dependent
on
you
know
what
assets
are
in
arbitrary
one.
F
What
tokens
are
there
so
typically
we're
going
after
the
eve
stable
coins,
but
in
this
proposal
or
the
the
discussion
of
the
community,
there
was
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
to
determine
what
stable
coins
to
going.
After
so
again,
there's
some
problems
with
arbitrary
one
right
now
in
terms
of
being
fully
compatible
because
die,
which,
with
the
original
proposal
had
had
indicated,
we
should
be
providing
liquidity
on
dye,
is
not
yet
accessible
on
arbitrary
one,
so
yeah
in
terms
of
moving
forward.
F
A
Cool
we'll
leave
that
door
open.
We
do
have
open
questions
at
the
end,
so
any
follow-up
questions
can
be
made
there.
We
will
move
on
to
a
quick
call
of
attention
to
farming.
Obviously,
the
big
thing
on
everyone's
mind.
A
A
lot
of
the
actual
plan
regarding
farming
was
talked
about
already,
but
I'd
like
to
cover
specifically
the
pairs
and
what
the
new
updated
plan
will
be,
considering
that
so,
first
of
all
the
facts,
if
you've
seen
the
swapper
token
announcement,
there
was
a
there
was
an
announced
in
in
parentheses,
announced
farming
campaign
which
accounted
for
a
handful
of
tokens
on
arbitrum.
A
Obviously,
alongside
this
deployment
issue,
we've
been
having.
We
realized
that
there
was
a
handful
of
those
tokens
that
are
actually
not
available
day,
one
on
arbitrum
and
or
working
working
behind
closed
doors
for
various
reasons.
So
we
can't
do
dye,
as
chris
mentioned
we're
unable
to
do
ave,
moon
or
perp
on
day.
One
obviously
we'd
still
love
to
have
these
communities
they're
our
targeted
communities.
A
So
we're
not
going
to
going
to
move
those
allocations
to
other
communities,
but
we
do
have
a
strategy
to
to
ramp
up
in
the
place
of
them.
The
first
thing
we
did
was
obviously
we
had
two
eath
pools
uscce
and
die
eath.
We
translated
the
dye
allocation
to
usdc
and
dies
absence
which
we
are
expecting
to
move
back
gradually.
Once
dye
is
available
on
arbitrarium,
we
also
initially
didn't
have
a
stable
coin
allocation.
A
This
is
because
there
was
a
handful
of
stable,
focused
projects
that
were
looking
like.
They
were
to
launch
day
one
on
arbitrary,
as
you
may
or
may
not
know,
this
doesn't
appear
to
be
the
case.
A
Unisop
doesn't
appear
to
have
the
liquidity
they
expected
trident
isn't
launched,
for
example,
so
we've
decided
that
some
of
the
the
smaller
allocation
that
we
were
unable
to
use
day,
one
will
allocate
temporarily
to
a
stable
tool
between
usdc
and
usdt,
which
are
both
available
on
arbitrary
day
one
and
we'll
be
ramping
that
down
over
the
next
couple
of
epochs,
as
the
other
tokens
come
online,
which
gives
a
good
opportunity
to
move
usdt
directly
in
swapper
to
usdc
yeah.
A
We
also
move
the
allocations
around
very
slightly
for
the
ecosystem
tokens
and
have
done
so
in
such
a
way
that
there's
10
remaining
unallocated
swapper
token
in
the
first
epoch,
instead
of,
for
example,
letting
this
go
to
waste
it'll,
first
and
foremost,
go
directly
to
the
swapper
treasury
when
available,
but
we
can
also
consider
utilizing
it
in
several
different
ways,
such
as
community
incentives,
and
you
know,
additional
farming
incentives.
A
Now
is
a
good
opportunity
to
share
a
graphic
of
this
and
to
be
super
clear.
This
is
all
not
formal.
There
will
be
a
farming
announcement
that
will
have
formalized
amounts
dates.
Everything
that
you
can
look
forward
to
in
the
next
couple
days,
zed
earlier
shared
a
farming
timeline,
obviously
waiting
on
the
proposal
to
update
the
ens
before
that
is
possible,
but
this
is
a
good
snapshot
of
what
we
are
expecting,
which
I've
just
put
in
the
chat
and
as
additional
context.
A
Of
course
we
set
up
these
kind
of
initial
farms,
and
but
the
the
entire
bottom
line
is
that
dx.governance
will
have
the
final
say.
So
what
you
see
here
may
change
even
drastically
by
the
time
the
farming
is
announced.
I
can't
make
any
promises,
but
this
is
our
current
expectation
and
the
swapper
squad
of
what
it
will
look
like.
A
Cool,
I
think,
that's
a
main
recap.
I
do
have
some
questions.
Obviously
anyone's
welcome
to
ask
questions
as
usual.
First
question
left
with
me,
is
why
no
stable
allocation
and
to
be
clear-
I
covered
that
just
a
bit
earlier,
but
we
expect
other
competitive,
stable
gaps
to
to
kind
of
rule
the
stable
space,
which
is
why
we
didn't
originally
have
stables,
but,
like
I
mentioned
an
initial
allocation
of
stables
kind
of
moving
down,
as
as
those
protocols
come
online,
I
think,
is
a
smart
thing
for
us.
A
A
It'll
be
very
dependent
on
our
proposals
and
when
our
testing
has
completed,
but
you
can
safely
assume
from
the
timeline
if,
for
example,
the
proposal
were
to
be
submitted
tomorrow
that
farming
would
start
at
a
maximum
of
six
days,
obviously
no
promises
there
as
well,
we'll
be
waiting
on
on
that
proposal,
submission
and
farming
announcement
to
have
any
solidified
days,
and
one
last
question
I
had
with
me
are
any
other
communities
going
to
be
added.
A
A
A
And
no
longer
typing
cool,
we'll
move
on
to
to
open
questions.
Obviously
anything
we've
talked
about
today
or
any
general
questions.
I
actually
have
one
left
with
me,
so
anyone
that's
in
this
call
right
now.
Any
questions
leave
them
in
the
chat
or
hop
on
the
call
mic
is
open,
but
we'll
start
right
away
with
the
one
left
with
me:
does
the
x
dow
have
a
hedge
against
ethereum,
ada
or
saul,
for
example,
very,
very
broad,
stroke
question?
Maybe
john?
A
Well,
that
the
answer
is
obviously
no
what
I
think
addressing,
but.
C
Yeah
I
mean
in
terms
of
ethereum
the
platform
yeah
there
isn't
like
currently
really
a
hedge
or
any
move
to
deploy
on
some
of
the
potentially
competitive
chains
there,
but
we
are
getting
practice
on
deploying
to
other
chains
like
extire
right,
so
I
mean
I
guess
you
could
view
xdi
as
a
bit
of
a
hedge.
C
However
yeah
I
mean
I
don't
think,
there's
really
a
serious
effort
or
even
like
thinking
about
hedging
against
ethereum
itself,
but
given
the
experience
that
we're
gaining
deploying
to
other
chains,
I
think
we
are
preparing
and
getting
prepared
to
be
able
to
deploy
to
other
chains
if
it
seemed
necessary
or
important
strategically
in
terms
of
the
asset
yeah.
Very
much
so
are
we.
C
We
are
hedging
like
there's
the
whole
treasury
diversification
effort
so
but
yeah,
but
the
core
base
is
is
on
ethereum
and
there
hasn't
been
any
serious
discussion
about
moving
that
to
another
chain.
A
Thanks
for
for
stepping
in
there
cool,
I
think
that's
all
the
questions
left
with
me
still
on
open
questions
here.
If
anyone
else
has
any
other
questions
feel
free
to
drop
them
now
I'll
be
paying
attention
to
the
chat
here,
we'll
give
it
a
couple
of
seconds
if
nothing
pops
up,
we
can
end
the
call
a
couple
minutes
early.
A
Not
seeing
any
typing,
we
can
end.
The
call
here,
obviously,
as
usual,
feel
free
to
ask
questions
in
any
of
our
discord
channels.
Contributors
are
generally
around
you.
Don't
need
to
necessarily
be
on
these
community
calls
to
have
your
questions
answered
so
don't
feel
like
you
need
to
wait.
We're
generally
around
to
engage.
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
attending
and
we'll
see
you
in
two
weeks
for
the
next
community
call,
hopefully
trying
out
the
new
discord
stages.