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A
A
As
usual,
you
can
follow
along
with
the
agenda
in
the
mothership
text
channel
here
above
this
voice
channel.
I
believe
john
put
it
in
today.
Thank
you,
john,
but
before
we
kick
things
off,
I'd
like
to
call
quick
attention
to
the
dxtel
annual
recap
thread,
which
was
posted
on
dow
talk
late
last
week,
a
great
collection
of
kind
of
dxdo's
accomplishments,
outlooks
and
really
contextualize
what
we're
kind
of
aiming
for
in
this
coming
year.
So
I'm
just
going
to
drop
a
link
in
the
chat
here
as
well.
A
B
Sure
so,
overall,
I
guess
there's
a
everything
moving
ahead.
Well,
we
have
a
couple
of
proposals
live
on
x
time,
mostly
buybacks
and
contributor
proposals,
but
kind
of
overlapping.
I
guess
the
governance
and
treasury
update.
We
also
have
some
more
test
proposals
from
our
multicalls
live
on
on
gnosis
chains,
so
we're
actually
testing
some
unpool
proposals
of
lp
tokens
on
swapper
from
the
dow
so
kind
of
trying
to
do
that
through
the
multi
calls
other
than
that
we
it's
mostly
payments
on
gnosis
chain.
B
At
the
moment
we
do
have
two
proposals
on
mainnet
as
well.
One
of
them
is
actually
to
withdraw
dxd
from
the
gpv
one
relayer.
So,
given
that
we're
not
doing
buybacks
anymore
on
mainnet
and
this
weekend,
there
was
a
nice
opportunity
to
submit
those
at
a
low
gas
price.
B
We
went
ahead
and
submitted
those
so
there's
a
request,
withdrawal
proposal
and
then
one
actual
withdrawal
proposal.
That's
just
due
to
the
nature
of
how
gpv
one
works
and
there's
also
a
sponsorship
proposal
for
the
global
governance
gathering.
I
believe
it's
called,
which
is
the
event
hosted
by
the
taoist
at
dev,
connect
the
first
two
days.
B
That's
pretty
much
a
brief
overview
of
what's
going
on
on
the
governance
side,
yeah,
not
sure.
If
I
I,
I
won't
go
further
I'll
I'll
stick
to
keenan's
agenda.
A
Yeah,
it
makes
sense
and
if
you
have
anything
extra
to
kind
of
add
we
do
have
the
open
section.
Of
course
we
can
talk
about
anything
cool.
Thank
you
very
much.
Let's
move
on
to
the
treasury
in
general,
I
guess
this
is
kind
of
dave
as
well.
We
do
have
buyback
discussion
right
after
this,
so
maybe
just
a
quick
little
contextualization
of
the
treasure
will
be
nice
as
well.
Sorry
to
keep
you
up
here.
B
Sure
so
I
I
guess
generally
looking
at
the
treasury,
the
main
kind
of
things
we
have
right
now
is:
we
actually
have
a
large
amount
of
capital
on
gnosis
chain.
So
if
you're
checking
the
treasury,
you
might
have
noticed
that
and
that
actually
comes
back
to
the
proposal
aforementioned
about
unpooling
funds.
B
So
before
we're
looking
to
deposit
further
funds
into
swapper
into
the
xdy
web
pair,
and
before
doing
that,
we
just
you
know
as
a
regular
check.
We
want
to
unpause
just
some
test
times
to
make
sure
everything
works
correctly,
and
we
did
run
into
some
issues
due
to
the
way
we
were
calling
the
unpool
and
due
to
some
permissions.
B
So
actually,
when
you
provide
liquidity
to
a
swapper
pool
from
the
dow
for
a
relayer,
you
just
need
to
do
a
provision
proposal,
but
when
you
withdraw
them
because
there's
also
a
withdrawal
happening
to
actually
execute
that
withdrawal,
you
need
a
separate
proposal
which
not
only
the
first
one
doing
the
removal
of
liquidity,
but
you
also
need
a
second
one
executing
that
removal
due
to
the
fact
that
tokens
are
being
withdrawn.
Only
the
dow
can
do
that.
B
So
that's
why
we
currently
have
a
couple
of
test
proposals
up
on
ignore
this
chain,
but
as
soon
as
those
pass
and
we're
very
confident
that
everything
will
work,
it's
just
really
just
a
regular
check
to
make
sure
everything
works
as
intended.
B
We'll
then
provision
the
liquidity
that
currently
sits
in
the
gnosis
chain
treasury.
That's
why
we
have
a
significant
amount
of
funds
there
and,
in
fact,
we'll
probably
likely
already
do
another
movement
of
topping
up
the
funds
on
diagnosis
chain,
knowing
that
the
majority
of
the
x
die
and
west
currently
in
the
treasury
will
go
to
swapper,
depending
on
the
price
of
weff.
Of
course,
we'll
have
to
see
how
that
works
out
and
yeah.
B
Well,
I'm
actually
also
currently
working
on
a
very
brief
blog
post
about
an
update
on
kind
of,
like
the
staking
of
eve
we've
done
so
far,
hoping
to
publish
that
tomorrow
and
just
to
give
an
overview
of
the
different
staking
options
we
went
for.
So
we
went,
of
course,
with
lido,
stakewise
and
rocket
pool,
and
you
know
just
want
to
give
a
brief
overview
of
you
know
how
it
works
out
for
the
treasury
from
the
tokenomics
perspective
and
also
just
give
a
brief
update
on
how
everyone
can
check
kind
of
the
performance.
B
So
some
of
them
it's
easier
to
check
some
of
them
less
so
so
looking
to
have
a
blog
post
up
about
that
and
then
hoping
to
also
move
forward
with
a
proposal
about
us
taking
further
funds
across
the
platforms.
Well,
you
know
that's
something
we'll
have
to
decide
on
and
we'll
probably
be
discussed
on
the
forum
post
as
well
as
in
the
following
calls
and
yeah
just
kind
of
like
slowly
sliding
into
the
buybacks.
B
The
buybacks
have
also
been
live
and
running
quite
well
over
the
past
few
months,
so
we're
cranking
those
out
and
in
fact
we're
also
looking
to
get
a
new
buyback
extension
proposal
up
on
the
forum,
which
will
also,
of
course,
move
some
more
funds,
particularly
if
which
will
be
wrapped
away
and
then
moved
over
to
gnosis
and
deposited
into
the
buyback
free
layer.
And
then
I
think
this
is
a
good
interlude
for
chris
to
maybe
give
a
brief
update
about
the
volume
which
he's
very
passionate
about
and
on
top
of.
C
They
call
that
a
professional
segway
in
the
business
very
well
done
dave
yeah,
so
I
posted
a
bi-weekly
volume
update.
I'm
gonna
try
to
do
these
consistently.
You
know,
first
for
this
year
or
every
two
weeks,
so
kind
of
an
interesting
development.
There
was
a
really
good
two
weeks
in
terms
of
volume,
120
000
dollars
of
average
volume
on
chain
the
last
two
weeks.
I
think
most
people
might
be
aware
of
this.
There
was
a
day
that
there
was
a
a
lot
of
activity.
C
Someone
dumped,
I
think,
like
a
100
dxd
on
on
arbor
trim
in
like
a
single
transaction
and
then
that
led
to
a
bunch
of
other,
you
know
dxd
orders
coming
in
and
kind
of
scooping
that
up.
I
think
that
was
like
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
so
we
actually
had
a
very
big
week
in
terms
of
volume,
but
the
average
volume
for
three
months
basically
stayed
the
same,
and
that's
because
it's
these
two
weeks
are
replacing
two
weeks
at
the
end
of
november.
C
That
were
also
very,
very
high
volume
there.
So
I
think
that
the
volume
will
increase
the
three
month.
Volume
will
increase
and
therefore
the
size
of
the
dxd
buyback
purchase
size
once
we
kind
of
we
don't
have
the
these
middle.
The
mid
december
end
of
december
time
period
where
there
was
a
lot
of
low
volume,
because
that's
still
driving
down
our
overall
three
month,
average
so
yeah.
C
I
think
that
so
I'll
still
stop
counting
when
we
hit
april
there,
so
that
should
show
a
boost
to
the
overall
three
month
average
there,
in
terms
of
where
most
of
the
app
the
volume
in
the
last
two
weeks
was
on
arbitrary
about
fifty
five
percent
on
arbitrary
compared
to
twenty
five
percent
on
gnosis
chain
and
only
six
percent
on
mainnet.
There
was
a
pretty
big
increase
in
the
on
chain
extra.
C
This
is
a
nice
big
shout
out
to
connor
for
following
all
of
the
on-chain
extra
activity,
that's
going
on
in
terms
of
the
different
trades
that
are
happening
mostly
through
one
eight
one
inch
limit.
So
last
the
last
two
weeks
there
was
actually,
I
think
it
was
like
150
000
of
trades
that
came
through
on
chain
extra
there.
I
think
this
is
the
address
that
was
selling
it
selling
them.
C
There
so
yeah
and
then
just
kind
of
two
other
things,
maybe
related
to
volume
or
dxd
buyback
stuff.
One
is
building
out
for
what
dave
was
saying
in
terms
of
the
that
dxd
return
proposal,
that's
on
mainnet,
so
that
would
be
a
proposal
that
would
bring
in
1999
dxd.
Just
short
of
2000
1999
was
a
great
year
by
the
way,
but
that
I
think-
and
someone
can
we
can
push
and
ask
coingecko
for
that.
C
I'm
pretty
sure
that
should
automatically
lower
the
circulating
supply
for
dxd,
because
then
that
dxd
will
no
longer
be
in
the
relayer,
where
coingecko
thinks
that
it's
out
on
the
open
market
that
would
actually
be
in
dxl's
treasury,
which
coin
deco
actually
already
has
already.
So
that
could
be
an
interesting
development
there
and
then.
C
The
second
thing
in
terms
of
dhd
trade,
volume
or
kind
of
dxd
liquidity
in
general
is
there
are
some
discussions
and
I
think
not
yet
a
proposal
about
increasing
the
swap
fee
on
the
dxd
east
pairs
on
gnosis
chain
and
arbor
trump,
and
I
think
there
was
some
ranges
we
could
select.
The
broad
consensus
was
to
potentially
increase
the
swap
fee.
C
C
Caney
fork
is
a
is
an
lp
on
swapper
for
dxdeep,
been
doing
that
for
over
a
year
on
all
three
chains,
and
so
I'm
definitely
as
a
as
a
candy
fork
is
definitely
in
support
of
increasing
the
swap
fee,
because
I
think
it
is
something
that
does
affect
the
kind
of
impermanent
loss
of
those
lps.
And
if
you
look
at
the
liquidity,
that's
out
there,
especially
on
mainnet.
C
I
think
a
lot
of
deep
state
holders
are
not
willing
to
put
up
liquidity
because
the
fees
aren't
there
enough
in
terms
of
generating
that
one
of
the
most
popular
places
for
geeks
liquidity,
actually
the
most
popular
place
for
dc
equity
outside
of
swapper,
is
the
balancer
pool
that
yes
does
have
an
80
20
mix,
but
it
also
has
a
0.6
swap
fee,
which
I
think
does
help
in
terms
of
limiting
some
of
the
impermanent
loss
there.
But
I
think,
broadly
speaking,
I
think
it's
something
to
experiment
with.
C
This
is
something
that's
actually
unique
about
swapper
there,
but
it
would
be
keen
to
get
any
dxd
holders
opinions
any
dwf
lps
make
sure
and
and
voice
your
opinion
there
I'll
share
a
link
to
it.
C
Yeah,
I
guess
that's
it.
For
kind
of
dxd
trade
volume.
D
D
Like
you
know,
people
calling
the
contract
just
a
thought
that
if
you
know
if
it
looks
like
it's
an
issue
that
people
are
trying
to
manipulate
it,
we
can
also
play
with
the
the
spacing
between
the
oracle
updates,
which
could
make
it
a
little
harder
to
maintain
any
kind
of
manipulation.
C
You
could
have
an
arbitrage
opportunity
on
this.
Even
if
that
swap
that
the
swapper
dxd
pool
on
nose's
chain
is
manipulated,
and
so
I
think,
yeah
thinking
of
those
types
of
ways.
We
can
incentivize
like
market
players
to
come
in
and
like
drive
the
the
behavior.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
chris
for
the
recap
here.
As
always
open
any
questions
here
at
the
end
of
any
particular
segment
feel
free
to
jump
on
the
stage
or
message
in
the
chat.
I
was
just
gonna
comment.
The
use
of
the
word
keen
really
throws
me
off,
and
I
heard
you
say
it
before
john
stepped
up
and
it
made
me
do
a
double.
Take
not
too
keen
on
that.
C
I
like
it,
I
get
yours,
it
makes
sense
just
one
other
thing.
The
other
thing
that
I
think
does
you
know
should
it
could
both
limit
some
of
the
ability
to
manipulate,
but
it
would
limit
the
arbitragers
like
desire
to
come
in,
and
after
is
if
we
do
increase
the
swap
fee.
That
is
like
a
small
increase
on
that
manipulation
right,
so
they
would
lose
a
little
bit
when
they
push
push
the
price
up
because
there'd
be
a
higher.
C
A
Cool
cool.
Thank
you
again.
We'll
pay
attention
to
any
questions
comments
here.
We
can
always
circle
back
on
the
topic
if
anything
shows
up
in
the
chat,
but
for
now,
let's
segue
again
to
swapper
farming
and
a
bit
on
the
allocations
from
march
17th
next
thursday
at
1500
utc
news
is,
there
isn't
really
a
large
allocation
shift.
Most
of
the
allocations
on
both
gnosis
and
arbitram
are
now
quite
stable
and
we
are
quite
happy
with
their
performance.
A
There
are
a
couple
of
underperformers,
but
it's
generally
the
newer
pairs
that
haven't
had
as
much
time
to
simmer
and
when
we
kind
of
took
a
look
at
them.
It
was
only
a
couple
weeks
after
the
initial
introduction
of
the
farm,
so
there
isn't
actually
any
percentage
allocation
shifts
on
neither
arbitrary
nor
gnosis
chain.
A
At
this
time,
the
one
kind
of
bigger
pair
changes,
hmd
against
wheat,
has
been
shifted
to
h
d
against
x,
die
and
will
be
incentivized
in
a
joint
campaign
with
the
h
d
team
that
can
be
expected
on
march
23rd
slightly
after
next
week.
That
is
because
they
have
their
own
hmd
release
schedule
that
is
currently
live
on.
Swapper,
which
you
can
also
find
on
gnosis
chain,
another
interesting
facet
of
these
campaigns
is
obviously
the
carrots,
as
you
may
or
may
not
have
known.
A
Carrots
were
introduced
last
epoch,
epoch,
10
and
11
on
gnosis
chain,
and
they
introduced
for
some
software
rewards
and
from
some
gno
rewards
as
well.
The
current
status
of
those
care
awards
is
they're,
targeting
a
tbl
of
the
total
swapper
on
gnosis
chain
of
anywhere
from
10
to
30
million
us
dollars.
There's
been
a
bit
of
a
market
downturn
and
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
around
the
nine
to
ten
million
dollar
area.
A
So
it
should
be
much
more
attainable
and
pay
out
some
rewards
regardless,
but
it
is
also
worth
noting
that
we've
protected
some
of
these
rewards.
The
geno
rewards,
as
we
have
reached
the
targets,
which
is
very
interesting
and
can
presumably
extend
those
gno
rewards
going
forward
and
distribute
some
more
so
lots
of
fun
stuff
to
look
forward
to
on
gnosis
chain,
and
I
think
that
does
actually
encapsulate
most
of
the
changes.
You
can
look
forward
to
these
farms
going
up
next
thursday
at
1,
500,
utc
march
17th.
A
Cool
cool-
and
that
brings
us
to
our
next
topic,
which
is
codeless
conduct
talking
a
bit
about
the
recap
and
submissions.
Obviously,
the
submission
window
has
now
ended
and
maybe
chris
can
give
some
context
on
this.
C
I
really
thought
I
was
done
with
the
dxd
stuff
only
because
I
was
like
I
wouldn't
have
talked
as
much
about
that.
If
I
was
going
to
talk
more
about
this
but
code,
this
contact
is
a
great
to
talk
about
because
it
is
a
cool
initiative
to
try
to
bring
more
people
into
web3
that
maybe
do
not
have
technical
skills
to
contribute
to
a
traditional
hackathon.
C
So
deekstyle
sponsored
this
and
also
sponsored
three
bounties
one
on
real
governance,
memes
and
one
on
a
swapper
token
tokenomics
proposal
and
then
one
on
a
creating
a
video
for
a
couple.
Different
topics
like
holographic
consensus,
multi-chain
still
coming
through
all
of
the
submissions,
but
in
terms
of
the
number
of
people
we
actually,
I
think,
pretty
good
participation
in
the
number
of
people.
C
So
she
said
we
had
the
three,
the
three
bounties
and
so
the
one
that
was
most
popular
was
this
create
a
series
of
deep
style,
real
governance,
memes.
You
can
actually
click
through
in
that
and
and
see
the
see
all
of
the
boundaries
themselves,
but
we
actually
had,
I
think,
11
applicants
and
I
think
nine
submission
eight
submissions.
I
think
to
that
one
and
then,
with
the
tokenomics
proposal
we
had
actually
two
submissions
to
it.
C
I
will
say
like
one
not
super
great,
but
one
kind
of
interesting
and
really
did
like
think
through
some
of
the
ideas
about
introducing
ve
curve
style
governance
and
also
like
in
terms
of
like
having
a
protocol
fee,
that's
governable
by
by
the
by
different
projects.
So
that's
one
that's
interesting
there
and
then
the
videos,
I
think,
are
a
little
bit
more
challenging.
We
had
some
that
were
maybe
too
long
and
some
that
it's
tough
to
have
that
level
of
video
production.
I
have
not
had
it.
C
I
think
there
was
three
submissions
there.
Let
me
find
this
again
for
the
the
video
one
and
yeah
so
we'll
have
to
decide
kind
of
which
one
of
these
we
reward.
I
think
the
memes
one
we're
feeling
pretty
confident
we'll
award
one
of
them
there
and
then
the
video
one,
maybe
a
little
bit
tougher.
That's
a
thousand
dollar
bounty,
one
there
and
then
yeah.
The
swapper
ones
is
probably
is,
I
think,
nathan's
sharing
in
the
chat.
C
There
is
the
probably
one
that
we
could
have
the
most
input
on.
If
that's,
maybe
something
worth
awarding
the
500
bounty
trying
to
reload
this,
and
it's
not.
C
There's
like
actually
just
one
picture
is
a
picture
of
one
stair
or
a
set
of
stairs
that
was
just
divided
into
nine
pictures.
It
wasn't
even
like
a
bunch
of
different
stairs,
but
anyway,
this
is
the
last
link
I
wanted
to
share
here
and
yeah
click
through
the
the
memes
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
to
save
them
all,
because
they're
all
like
saved
through
get
coins.
So
I
mean
sorry
github,
so
it's
actually
pretty
hard
to
like
look
at
all
of
them
at
once.
C
So
like
here's,
one
submission
yeah
and
here's
another
one,
but
they're
all
so
it's,
oh
that's
not
yeah.
It
is
so
yeah
we'll
come
through
these
share.
Some
of
them
in
the
memes
channel
nathan
was
I'd,
say
lukewarm
on
the
memes,
but
I
think
that's
because
he
has
a
very
high
standard
for
for
meme
production
and
is
always
kind
of
raising
the
bar
to
to
new
levels,
but
I
think
there's
some
kind
of
fun,
fun
things
there
and
actually
a
lot
of
content
that
we
that
we
will
have
so
yeah.
A
Excellent.
Thank
you
very
much
chris.
I
did
have
some
questions
here.
They
were
answered,
I
believe,
actually
this
one
maybe
wasn't,
should
we
expect
more
non-technical
bounties
from
dxdo.
C
Yeah,
it's
a
good
question.
I
think
we
haven't
yet
had
like
a
deep
brief
on
how
this
works
right
like
whether
it's
worth
our
time.
I
think
there
is,
I
guess,
broadly
speaking,
we
think
of
like
hackathons
or
things
I
think,
there's
a
desire
to
do
more,
but
also
a
realization
that
they
do
take
time
and
and
like
commitment.
So
I
think
this
one
was
good
at
least
for
experimenting
and
building
a
brand,
and
I
think
like
if
codeless
conduct
is
doing
these
things
in
the
future.
C
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
geeksdale
to
participate
just
given,
we've
already
established
that
relationship,
we
know
how
things
work,
but
I
think
that
hopefully,
this
kind
of
his
kick
started,
maybe
not
kickstarted,
but
it's
running
in
parallel
with
another
development
in
geek
style
area,
which
is
kind
of
just
funding.
C
More
initiatives
like
this,
whether
that's
through
a
hackathon
or
whether
it's
through
initiative
dao,
so
we'd,
actually
had
the
idea
for
the
e
s,
video
based
on
some
of
the
work
that
that
nathan
or
r
hat
I
don't
know
if
I
should
want
to
be
giving
him
credit,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
everyone
yeah
that
our
hat
has
done
to
fund
some
of
those
videos,
and
I
think
we
should
be
much
more
aggressive
about
like
creating
those
bounties
and
looking
for
people
that
kind
of
build
these
little
things
yeah,
and
I
think
most
of
that
may
happen
through
the
initiative
dao
but
yeah,
I
think
maybe
hackathons
are
another
another
good
area
for
it.
A
Excellent
perfect.
Thank
you
very
much.
Chris.
Let's
move
on
here
to
dx
amsterdam
would
be
great
to
give
a
little
bit
of
context
about
the
events
kind
of
our
goals.
Obviously
visiting
amsterdam
and
kind
of
being
around,
I
do
believe
skye
is
here
in
the
audience.
Would
you
be
around
to
give
some
context.
D
So
devconnect
is
sort
of
the
banner
name
for
a
week
of
events,
kind
of
being
prompted
by
the
ethereum
foundation.
So
you
know
same
organizers,
kind
of
same
organization
that
is
behind
devcon.
Now
it's
been
a
couple
years
since
we've
had
a
devcon
due
to
lockdowns,
but
you
know
this
year
later.
I
think
it's
defcon
6
now
is
planned
for
bogota,
but
this
is
something
that
I
think
they
envision
as
kind
of
an
intermediary
or
like
another
opportunity
for
folks
to
get
together.
D
It's
in
europe
as
opposed
to
the
americas,
so
just
giving
some
like
trying
to
prompt
more
opportunities
for
events,
and
so
there's
some
cool
stuff
popping
up
like
they're
all
independent
events.
If
somebody
I
can
post
the
schedule
here
in
the
chat-
and
I
think
the
ones-
oh
thanks
anything
to
it,
but
one
we're
looking
at
sponsoring-
and
I
think
this
was
covered
in
previous
calls
ggg.
Why
is
it
called
ggg
again?
Maybe
kennedy
you
might
remember,
but
it's
the
taoist
hosting
a
two-day
event?
D
You
know
what
we
do
well
and
what
we
have
expertise
in
around
governance
and
decentralized
organization,
and
you
know
all
the
stuff
that
we're
always
talking
about
and
then
later
that
week.
There's
some
other
cool
events,
there's
a
bunch
of
ones,
ones
that
I'm
particularly
interested
in
are
layer.
Two
amsterdam.
You
know,
I
think
that's
gonna,
be
a
good
opportunity
to
stay
current
on
this
very
busy
and
important
space.
That's
influencing
scalability
and,
I
think,
is
potentially
the
future
of
blockchain
right.
D
So
we're
looking
at
optimistic,
roll-ups,
ck
roll-ups
and
I
think
a
lot
of
them
will
be
there
in
amsterdam.
There's
also
a
lot
of
stuff
happening
kind
of
at
the
ethereum
protocol
layer.
I
might
not
go
to
some
of
these
there's
just
too
many
events
to
attend
them
all,
but
staking
events
and,
like
you
know,
mev
protection.
I
might
try
to
catch
that.
One
I
think
is
on
friday,
there's
also
east
amsterdam.
I
think
this
is
the
first
in-person
hackathon
organized
by
eth
global.
Since
pre-pandemic.
D
You
know,
I
think
I
went
to
the
last
one
they
organized
in
london
that
was
just
before
ecc
in
2020.
These
are
like
premier,
hackathon
events,
great
experiences
they
provide.
You
know
food
and
everything
the
hackers
can
need
from
the
moment
they
walk
in
on
friday
till
the
judging
happens
on
sunday.
So
I'm
planning
to
apply
to
this.
We're
not
sponsoring
this
one
since
we're
focusing
on
the
taoist,
but
I
think
it'll
be
a
cool
event
and
then
yeah,
there's
a
bunch
of
other
stuff
like
a
d5
day
on
monday.
D
I
think
as
well
and
in
addition
to
that,
I
think
txtel
will
probably
be
sending
a
couple
of
contributors
to
go
meet
up
with
the
copenhagen
flames,
which
is
the
esports
team
that
was
recently
sponsored
by
dx
tao.
They
are
close
by
in
copenhagen.
So
I
think
some
of
us
taking
advantage
of
the
proximity
to
go
meet
with
them
in
person
and
and
of
course,
talk
about
the
potential
interests
they
might
have
in
web
3
and
taos
and
the
stuff
that
dx
dow
could
help
them
with
and
be
interested
in
so
yeah.
I.
C
D
That's
kind
of
like
the
broad
gist
of
it.
I
think
it'll
be
a
great
opportunity
to
get
ethereum
heads
together
in
europe
and
also
yeah
think
about
kind
of
the
more
technical
stuff
as
well
like
a
lot
of
focus
on
protocol
development,
eth2
proof
of
stake
player
twos,
all
like
all
that
good
stuff.
So
I'm
excited
for
it
and
I
think
a
handful
of
contributors
are
planning
to
attend
and
if
anybody
else
from
the
community
is
around
give
us
a
shout,
it
would
be
great
to
connect.
A
Yeah,
thank
you,
john,
and
for
anyone
listening
to
the
recording
global
governance
gathering
is
the
name
of
the
the
ggg
event
by
by
the
taoist.
A
D
They
are
all
independent
events
right,
so
I
think
I
imagine
many
of
them
probably
will.
Although
I
have
you
know,
I
don't
actually
know
on
about
any
of
them,
but
I
would
suspect
that
many
of
the
organizers
would
be
trying
to
provide
access
virtually
to
their
content
and
talks.
I
would
imagine,
but
yeah
I
think,
you'd
have
to
go.
Look
on
a
case-by-case
basis
to
see.
If
that's
the
case.
A
A
D
You
know
whether
dxdow
could
host
something
related
to
governance
or
dao's
or
our
products,
but
I
think
where
the
taoist
is
has
got
an
event
kind
of
upper
alley
around
thousand
in
governance
and
stuff,
we
we
decided
to
just
kind
of
throw
our
support
behind
that
event
as
like
the
most
kind
of
practical
approach,
in
addition,
like
I'm
sure,
like
the
contributors,
will
be
carving
out
some
time
to
get
some,
you
know,
meetings
together
and
some
work
done
and
some
orientation
around
our
objectives
with
the
networking
recruiting
and
that
kind
of
thing
as
well.
D
But
beyond
that,
no,
I
don't
think
we're
gonna.
I
don't
think
we
have
any
formal
dx
now
event
thing.
Maybe
something
spontaneous
could
happen
like
a
little
bit
of
an
evening
event
or
something
if
people
are
interested,
but
no
no
conferences
or
anything
like
that
planned
from
dxdo.
A
Excellent,
thank
you
very
much,
john.
I
once
again
opened
any
questions
here
in
the
chat
anything
about
amsterdam,
anything
about
in
general,
just
kind
of
moving
on
to
open
question
segment.
Now
I
actually
do
not
have
anything
left
with
me,
but
one
thing:
I'd
like
to
call
attention
to
is:
there's
a
bit
of
a
larger
discord,
kind
of
overhaul.
That's
been
going
through
and
or
has
gone
through
a
lot
of
stuff
in
the
back.
A
End
surrounding
verification
might
not
be
visible
here
on
kind
of
the
front
page
of
our
discord,
but
the
primary
thing
is:
the
verification.
Rule
can
now
be
administered
through
wallet
verification.
A
A
So
if
you
connect,
I
believe
I'll
drop
the
link
in
the
chat
here.
If
it
will,
let
me
here
we
go.
A
You
head
to
the
rules
and
info
chat
under
the
server
header.
There's
a
guild
xyz
bot
that
has
a
link
for
dx
style,
verified
holders.
You
can
verify
your
wallet
there
and
get
the
verified
role
if
you
don't
already
have
it
which
you
do
if
you're
in
this
call,
but
it
will
also
give
you
access
to
the
dxd
and
or
swapper
holder
channels
and
in
those
total
channels.
Interesting
for
those
in
this
call
that
have
verified
there's
new
holder
role
channels.
A
You
can
select
manually
what
icon
to
show
next
to
your
name,
so
you
can
choose
either
the
dx
dial
logo
or
the
swapper
logo,
based
on
which
you
have
verified
in
the
chat.
So
you
can
see
my
name
in
the
chat
here
is
the
dxdao
logo
next
to
it?
So
you
can
have
that
if
you
have
verified
your
holdings,
so
highly
recommend
doing
that,
there's
going
to
be
a
bit
of
a
formal
announcement
with
all
of
the
changes,
but
that's
kind
of
the
fun
little
community
one.
Here
I
wanted
to
share.
A
D
I
would
draw
attention
to
some
of
the
the
conversation
this
morning
on
the
general
chat.
I
thought
it
was
pretty
interesting,
both
the
potential
liquidity
incentives
for
cow
token
and
that
forum
discussion
good
to
go
in
there
and
weigh
in.
D
I
think
I
haven't
I'm
still
in
the
process
of
reading
it,
but
it
would
be
great
to
advocate
for
dx
style
there,
and
then
there
was
also
some
discussion
about
these
massive
funds
being
announced
recently
and
how,
interestingly,
a
lot
of
what
they're
talking
about
is
like
dao,
cooling
and
dao,
related
infrastructure
and
decentralization
infrastructure,
so
kind
of
thinking
a
little.
Some
thoughts
on
that
and
you
know
keeping
keeping
an
eye
on
all
this
money.
C
Yeah,
why
don't
we
I
wanted
to
reply
to
that
when
I
saw
that
because
I
had
because,
like
with
all
these
big
funds
being
raised
right
and
like
I
mean
bain,
560
million
was
the
latest
one.
This
week,
electric
had
a
billion,
but,
like
I
mean
a16z,
is
closing
in
on
a
4.5
billion
dollar
fund,
and
it's
like
the
question
is
like
literally
where
the
f
are
those
funds
going
to
go
like?
C
Where
are
they
going
to
put
that
amount
of
money
in
things,
and
especially
like
we're
saying
they're
talking
about
like
dow
stuff,
and
I
think
it'll
be
really
interesting,
how
the
funds
are
deployed
between
like
equity
projects
and
token
projects
right?
This
has
kind
of
always
been
like
a
you
know,
so
attention-
or
I
guess,
like
a
choice
between
doing
a
fundraiser
here,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
these
projects
are
like
gearing
like
right
now.
There's
probably
an
overvaluation
in
equity
in
equity.
C
Evaluations
like
that,
pcs
are
investing
into,
because
that's
really
all
a
lot
of
this
like
new
vc
money
can
go
into
because
actually
a
lot
of
them
cannot
go
onto
the
open
market
and
just
like
start
like
buying
tokens
from
some
random
project,
like
the
only
thing
you
do
see.
A
little
bit,
for
instance,
is
like
a16z
buying
lido,
for
instance,
and
like
they're,
buying
like
state
e
for
that.
But
a
lot
of
these
are
not
super
flexible
where
they
can
like
just
go
out
and
buy
tokens
like
on
the
open
market.
C
It's
more
about
yeah,
like
funding
new
project
entrepreneurs.
That
can
do
that.
Maybe
there
will
be
some
ability
to
do
this
in
terms
of
like
what
people
used
to
call
treasury
diversification
proposals,
which
is
you
know,
treasuries
selling,
their
own
tokens
for
for
stable
coins
or
something
else,
and
that's
a
way
that
they're
funding
it.
But
just
from
like
an
investment
perspective,
I
think
there's
so
much
more
opportunity
now
in
terms
of
valuations
in
tokens
or
like
token-based
projects.
C
Tokens
are
like
already
liquid,
just
because
so
much
the
new
money
is
like
being
funneled
in
through
these.
Like
you
know,
very
traditional
kind
of
like
equity-backed
companies,
and
just
because
they're
able
to
be
able
to
take
in
that
much
money,
I
think
alchemy,
is
the
best
example
of
this
alchemy
is
like
an
inferior
provider.
It's
like
a
typical
sas
company
and
it's
got
just
a
crazy
valuation,
because
it's
kind
of
like
your
typical
silicon
valley
company
they
can
just
take
in
a
lot
of
funding.
C
I
will
stop
here
and
say
that,
like
part
of
this
argument
is
very
much
taken
from
a
podcast.
I
was
listening
to
this
morning
with
it's
via
unchained
and
lower
shin
off
to
it,
but
it's
actually
got
he's
called
around
the
block
around
the
chopping
block.
But
it's
got
oh.
C
It's
like
I'm
not
in
the
mood
for
new
podcasts
and
I
was
like
super
skeptical
of
just
like
people
talking
but
like
it's
good
right.
So
just
it's
tyrone
from
gauntlet
and
robert
from
compound
and
then
haseeb
and
what's
his
face
tom
from
dragonfly
and
they.
D
Yeah
one
of
my
favorite
podcasts
as
of
of
late.
I
think
let's
definitely
give
that
a
listen
and
yeah
I
mean
I,
you
see
these
valuations
just
really
swelling
and
it's
almost
like
yeah.
Just
all
this
capital
has
come
in
the
crypto
and
like
where
does
it
go?
Is
there
like
enough
deal
flow
opportunity
for
this
money
and,
like
you
said
yeah,
I
think
they're
kind
of
restricted.
It
was
interesting.
I
don't
know.
Did
you
see
chris?
The?
D
I
think
it
was
frank
from
the
block
tweeting
about
it,
but
saying
that
the
the
bain
capital
announcement
was
actually
mentioning
specifically
liquid
tokens.
Now
it
was
a
little
unclear
to
like
what
extent
they
would
be
pursuing
liquid
tokens,
but
even
just
them
mentioning
it.
I
think
was
sort
of
interesting
yeah
yeah.
C
And
I
think
you
can
basically
it's
just
the
like:
it's
not
the
ideal
structure
so
like
it's
a
little
bit
more
onerous
and
how
you're
like
funding
things
and
so
like
they
could
do
it
structure
these
things
differently,
where
they're
a
little
bit
more
hedge
fundy,
but
like
being
a
venture
fund,
does
not
preclude
them
or
exclude,
I
guess
prevent
them
from
doing
those
liquid
tokens.
It's
just
like
a
little
bit
harder.
It's.
D
It's
not
really
how
they're
set
up
or
what
their
mission
is:
yeah
yeah
yeah
how
they're
typically
doing
it
here
it
is
yeah
and
then,
like
yeah
like
when
you
look
at
like
this
electric
capital,
I
encourage
everybody
in
the
dxtel
community
to
read
this
electric
capital
blog
announcement,
because
it
was
really
striking
to
me
how
much
of
what
they
were
talking
about,
like
sort
of
resonates
with
what
we
do
and
I'm
kind
of
you
know,
my
reaction
was
like
hey
like
geek
style.
D
Is
experts
in
this
stuff
and
they're,
apparently
sending
you
know
like
lining
up
a
billion
dollars
to
to
funnel
into
these
areas?
So
it's
definitely
something
that
I
think
we
should
keep
an
eye
on
and
try
to
make.
Connections
where
we
can.
You
know,
part
of
me
is
very
skeptical
with
the
amount
of
capital
being
raised
like
I
just
have
a
hard
time,
believing
that
it's
going
to
find
you
know
reasonable
places
to
go.
D
I
think
deal
flow
is
already
like
hard
to
come
by
at
this
point,
and
so
it
should
be
should
be
interesting.
Like
you
know,
I
think
there's
some
some
stuff
that
I've
already
kind
of
been
scratching
my
head
at,
like
the
billion
dollar
luna
foundation,
guard
investment.
I
kind
of
hard
to
make
sense
of
that
to
me
and-
and
I
think
my
conclusion
there
is-
that
there's
just
a
lot
of
money
that
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
great
places
to
go.
So
I
wouldn't
be
surprised
if
we
saw
some
increasingly
ridiculous
deals.
C
Yeah
and
yeah
for,
like
dietz
dao,
I
think
it
kind
of
it's
like
two
two
like
takeaways
one.
I
think
this
kind
of
explains,
or
is
that's
one
explanation
for
like
why
not
as
much
like
money
has
got
kind
of
come
under
dx,
dow
or
dxd,
just
because
it
is
not
the
right
vessel
for
this
huge
influx
of
money,
completely
independent
of
whether
or
not
we
like
can
build
the
stuff
that
these
funds
are
trying
to
go
found
right,
like
I'm,
extremely
confident
that
we
can
compete
with
kind
of
any
company.
C
That's
doing
dow
services
that
they're
going
to
be
funding
and,
of
course,
I
think,
we're
like
much
better
qualified
because
we
actually
know
what
we're
building
there.
So,
I
think,
like
the
second
takeaway
for
dukestown
dxd
holders
is
like
the
competitors
of
dxdow
will
now
all
have
higher
valuations,
because
anyone
that's
making
dial
tooling
is
going
to
have
a
lot
of
dc
money
being
thrown
at
them.
They
can't
grow
money
at
dxd
right
now,
but,
for
you
know
different.
C
This
is
not
investment
advice,
of
course,
but
for
you
know,
other
crypto
investors
dxd,
like
that's,
really
a
great
play,
because
you
can
invest
in
like
a
dow
service
provider
company
and
a
great
valuation
that
basically
like
the
vcs
of
the
world,
can
invest
in
and
we
are
going
to
be
there.
The
the
projects
that
they're
going
to
be
investing
tooling
are
like
not
going
to
be
as
good
as
deep
style.
Like
already
is
now.
D
Capital
doesn't
buy
you
experience,
competence
and
we've
seen
already
in
the
dow
tooling
space
very
well
capitalized
projects
build
in
a
closet
for
years
and
basically
go
nowhere
when
they
launch
right,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
the
external
is
extremely
well
positioned,
due
to
being
actual
practitioners
of
decentralized
governance
relative
to
any
other
player
in
this
space
and
so
yeah.
I
think
yeah
it's
exciting
in
some
ways
and
and
yeah
in
a
lot
of
ways,
but
we'll
see
what
happens
with
the
money.
E
Yeah
I
was
gonna
I
mean.
Maybe
I
can
add
like
a
little
bit
of
context.
I'm
you
know
some
of
my
time
is
venture
investing.
I
think
I
think
you
guys
you
know
you're
pretty
much
spot
on
with
there's
like
a
surge
of
money.
That's
coming
in,
I
think
about
five
six
months
ago.
E
I
think
I
don't
know
it's
maybe
like
chris
dixon
right
from
a16z
like
his
web,
three
lectures
have
started
propagating
and
then
every
venture
capital
that
is
not
even
doing
anything
in
crypto
wanted
to
get
in
and
then
you
know,
valuations
basically
started
exploding.
There's
like
a
flood
of
money,
everybody's
raising,
a
shitload
of
money
and
and
yeah
like
as
you're
saying,
I
think
you
know
like
these.
Some
of
these
valuations
are
becoming.
You
know,
quite
ridiculous
and
yeah.
E
I
feel
like
this
is
sort
of
it's
the
same
thing
that
happened
in
like
20,
like
during
the
ico
stuff.
I
was.
D
Having
I've
been
saying
telegram
ton
flashbacks.
E
Yeah
so
many
things
like
that,
and
I
always
see
it
as
you
know
there,
during
the
bull
market,
there's
there's
times
of
like
kind
of
like
very
incremental
improvements
right.
So
there's
like
you
know,
there's
like
uni
swap
and
then
there's
sushi
swap
on
top
of
that,
and
then
you
know
there's
like
tiny,
tiny
sort
of
improvements
in
in
in
sort
of.
Let's
say
you
know
the
decks
right
and
you
know
you
could
probably
come
like
if
you
would
go
out
and
raise
funds
for
for
swapper
for
right
now.
E
I
think
we
could
you
know.
In
theory,
we
could
probably
raise.
You
know
like
between
five
to
ten
million
dollars
is
sort
of
like
a
product
of
its
own,
just
because
it
actually
has
some
features.
It's
on
many
chains.
It
has
volume
and
stuff
like
that
and
because
yeah,
basically
everybody
wants
in
to
these
things.
I
want
to,
I
think
what
you
said
about
yeah,
there's.
B
E
Lot
of
dow
tooling,
that's
you
know
being
developed
and
I've
see.
I
see
this
a
lot
where
people
are
sort
of
like
philosophizing
about
how
their
governance
will
look
like,
but
they've
never
actually
been
there,
and
even
people
who
want
to
build
like
dow
tooling
they
they
never
actually
experience
it
experience
that
they're
like
trying
to
build
from
like
how
they
imagine
things
to
be
and
yeah
there's
such
an
advantage
here
for
yeah.
E
Basically
everyone
here
in
this
group
that
knows
essentially
like
just
like
the
mechanics,
it's
sort
of
like
the
off-chain
right
mechanics
of
how
the
dow
works
like
how
proposals
are
being
made
in
our
contributor
guidelines
and
stuff,
like
that,
and
I
think
I
mean
I
tried
to
push
for
this
a
while
back.
But
you
know
this
is
kind
of
like
on
me
for
dxdow
to
sort
of
help.
Other
crypto
startups,
incubate
and
you
know
become
decentralized,
and
this
means
I
I
don't.
E
I
don't
know
if
we're
there
from
like
a
product
perspective,
but
you
know
once
governance
2.0
comes
out
like
I
would
like
to
figure
out
a
way
sort
of
like
what
we
did
with
dmm.
Back
in
the
day,
only
you
know
this
time,
not
a
scam
and
yeah
like
like
bringing
these
sort
of
projects
in
helping
them
on
board
to
our
governance
system,
and
then
you
know,
dxdow
could
also
you
know,
get
a
portion
of
you
know
their
tokens,
which
could
also
be
like
sort
of
like
a
revenue
model.
E
Sort
of
you
know
we're
helping
them
decentralize
and
our
expertise
and
what
we've
we've
built
so
far.
Is
it's
so
valuable
like
it's
it's
kind
of
crazy
and
you
know
respect
where
respect
is
due
for,
like
you
know,
friends
with
benefits,
and
you
know
the
propagation
that
they've
done
it's
you
know
it's,
you
can't
really
call
it
a
dao
and
yeah.
I
think
people
are
looking
at
that
they're
sort
of
like
the
holy
grail
that
was
just
yeah.
I
don't
really
think
so.
D
And
tied
this
back
to
some,
you
know
some
feedback.
We
were
giving
about
the
denver
event
like
in
the
past
couple
weeks,
which
I
think
was
the
observation-
that
a
lot
of
other
projects
that
are
deep
in
to
building
are
also
thinking
hard
about
governance
and
out
of
a
frustration
with
their
own
experiences
right.
So
I
think
you
know
that's
something.
D
I've
been
trying
to
line
up
with
some
good
follow-up
conversations
with
projects
like
element,
finance,
radical
to
xyz,
to
talk
about
their
governance
and
and
where
there's
some
synergy
there
and
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
there
just
to
like
yeah
work
with
the
actual
practitioners
but
yeah.
In
addition,
I
think
we
should
try
to
talk
to
these
funds
and
kind
of
just
at
least
offer
hey
like
this.
D
Is
you
know
the
experience
that
we
have
we're
happy
to
have
conversations
and
maybe
guide
you
where
they're
willing
to
to
listen
but
totally
agree
that
a
lot
of
this
building
is
sort
of
coming
from
yeah
like
developing
in
a
conference
room
and
not
on
the
ground,
where
the
action
is
actually
happening?.
E
Yeah
and
I
wanted
to
say
that
you
know
the
way
gnosis,
I
think
we
were
sort
of
criticized
criticizing
of
gnosis
right
was,
like
you
know,
they're,
not
really
down.
E
A
E
We
not
say
that
about
right,
yeah,
but
but
you
know
what
they've
done
with
like
the
cow
swap-
and
you
know
this
is
also
happening
with,
like
the
gnosis
safe.
I
think
this
is.
This
is
an
amazing
model
and
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
do
this
like
right
now
with
like
spinning
out
maybe
carrot
or
or
swapper
stuff
like
that.
But
you
know
this
is
an
interesting
model
and
yeah
if
we
can
do
it
to
our
own
project,
we
could
probably
do
this
to
like
other
projects
as
well
and.
C
I
think,
like
all
of
the
style
products
kind
of
have
that
like
path-
and
I
think,
there's
maybe
an
exciting
project,
that
I
see
that
there's
text
and
updates
on
that
may
be
another
project
that
might
end
up
having
something
that
can
be
spun
out
and
then
that
kind
of
creates
a
whole
ecosystem.
But
I
don't
think
that
happens
overnight.
Right,
like
we're
still
like
swapper
is
still
decentralizing.
C
Deep
style
is
still
governing
it,
but
like
with
the
swapper
token,
and
with
kind
of
the
moves
we've
been
making
like,
I
think
we're
headed
in
that
direction
and
that's
like
the
ultimately
like
the
long
game
like
I
think
we're
you
know,
is
launching
products
and
that
are
part
of
a
product
seat
that
are
part
of
an
ecosystem
and
yeah.
I
think
geek
style
is
very
well
positioned
for
it,
because
we
already
have
all
the
tools
in
place
to
do
that
now,
right
to
build
to
work
with
teams
to
fund
to
launch.
C
D
E
D
And
gnosis
has
done
some
amazing
stuff,
not
least
of
all
being
involved
in
launching
dxdow
as
well.
As
you
know,
migrating
to
gnosis
dow,
that
that's
that's
no
small
feat.
I
think
they've
actually
done
some
incredible
work
there.
That
is
unparalleled
in
terms
of
like
making
a
real
effort
to
decentralize
so
yeah,
even
though
you
know
at
their
core.
Maybe
the
original
gnosis
team
is
still
sort
of
a
company.
I
have
no
doubt
they
are
like
us,
decentralized,
maximalists
that
have
done
some.
Some
really
amazing
work.
A
Excellent
well,
thank
you
very
much
guys.
Some
fun
topics
here
at
the
end,
more
broadly,
would
like
to
talk
to
some
more
general
ecosystem
stuff
here,
as
well
as
our
regular
kind
of
informational
sections
as
well.
We've
kind
of
been
starting
that
at
the
start
of
the
calls,
but
maybe
at
the
end
there's
some
time
as
well.
A
Thank
you
everyone
for
attending
this
week.
You
can
find
us
same
time
at
the
same
place.
Next
week,
thursday,
the
17th
of
march
at
1600
utc,
we
will
see
you
then
thank
you
for
attending.