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From YouTube: DXdao Community Call [2022-05-26] (audio)
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05:00 Start: DXdao Community Call [2022-05-26] (audio)
06:30 EPNS Introduction
10:00 "All About DAOs" Discussion
43:25 DXgov Q2ish Update
51:32 Swapr Liquidity Tutorial
56:20 Swapr Arbitrum and Gnosis Chain Funding
57:50 Did you experience the "Goblin Twitter Space"?
A
B
A
How
are
you
doing
man
good
and
you
yeah
excellent,
just
going
to
give
some
time
for
everyone
to
show
up
here.
We
do
have
a
bit
of
an
intro
as
well.
I
had
to
start
recording
sake,
so
we'll
kind
of
hold
the
intro
for
now
from
your
end,
how's
my
sound
by
the
way.
A
It's
awesome,
excellent,
just
gonna
quickly
get
some
of
the
others
here
on
the
stage
and
we
can
get
moving.
A
Seeing
all
right
the
invite
should
be
good
for
those
on
the
dx
staff
side,
calling
on
those
pinged
in
the
community
call
channel
I'd
love
to
see
chris
john
nathan
skye.
Perhaps
up
here
we'll
start
in
just
a
second
as
everyone's
rolling
in.
A
A
I
see
in
our
in
our
own
chats
here
those
unfamiliar
with
spaces.
You
will
need
to
be
on
mobile
to
speak.
Unfortunately
that
seems
to
be
the
the
conflict
here.
So
those
are
the
those
are
the
speakers.
I
had
to
see
a
couple
requests
coming
through.
A
Excellent
I'll
hop
into
the
the
info
in
a
second
here,
but
just
for
those
of
you
joining
us,
we're
gonna
have
a
chat
in
our
regular
discord
channel
the
mothership
text,
so
those
of
you
that
aren't
in
our
discord
hop
over
to
our
twitter.
That's
the
host
of
this
call
in
the
description.
You'll
have
our
discord
server
and
you
can
find
the
mothership
text
right
at
the
top
near
the
server
browser
once
you're
in
so
we'll
be
using
that
for
text.
A
Unfortunately,
twitter
doesn't
have
text,
so
any
questions
comments
feel
free
to
hop
into
there.
You
know
if
you've
been
familiar
with
the
d
style
community
calls
before
it's
the
same
place.
You
might
be
familiar
with.
A
A
For
those
of
you
not
aware,
we're
experimenting
with
spaces
and
anticipation
of
operation,
decentralization,
the
excel's,
upcoming
and
very
own
live
show
we'll
be
chatting
decentralization
and
a
bunch
of
other
cool
topics
with
some
fun
guests.
For
this
first
call
we're
chatting
all
about
dows,
with
our
guests
of
the
day
from
the
ethereum
push
notification
service,
which
can
be
found
at
etns
project
on
twitter
they're.
A
As
I
kind
of
mentioned
before
this,
if
you're
looking
for
live
discussion,
you
can
find
a
chat
for
this
call
on
the
dxdot
discord
channels
head
over
to
our
twitter,
who
is
the
host
of
this
call,
go
into
their
profile.
Join
the
discord.
All
text
discussion
will
be
in
the
mothership
text
channel
right
near
the
top.
You
can't
miss
it.
You
know
if,
if
you
can't
find
it
feel
free
to
ask
any
channel
and
us
or
a
moderator
of
some
kind
will
redirect
you
so
yeah
without
further
ado.
A
Let's
get
into
the
discussions
for
a
first
topic,
we'll
have
an
open
discussion
with
epns
surrounding
dowse,
how
they
form,
how
they
work,
how
contributors
organize
and
operate
and
how
the
community
is
grown
and
engaged.
Joining
myself
on
stage
today
will
include
dx
style
contributors,
john
kelleher,
chris
powers,
r
hat
and
sky
and,
of
course,
our
special
guest
of
the
day
from
epns
jeff
big
welcome
to
the
stage
jack
I'd
love.
If
you
could
tell
us
a
bit
about
yourself
and
what
you
guys
are
doing
over
at
epns.
C
C
right
so
most
likely
when
you
wake
up
in
the
morning,
you
have
a
notification
waiting
for
you
on
your
phone
right,
whether
that's
a
whatsapp
or
a
message
from
your
bank
or
whatever,
but
you
have
never
ever
gotten
a
notification
from
a
web3
service
like
a
native
notification
coming
from
a
web3
service
to
your
wallet
address,
that's
what
we
are
building
in
general.
Our
ultimate
goal
is
to
enable
wallet
to
wallet
communication,
but
we
started
with
a
very
unique
and
interesting
use
case,
which
is
notifications
when
you
start
thinking
about
it.
C
Communication
starts
with
a
notification
just
because
you
get,
let's
say
a
whatsapp
message.
If
you
didn't
see
that
message,
then
communication
haven't
started
it's
until
you
get
a
notification
that
you
say:
oh
there's
something
for
me
and
then
you
start
generating
communication.
Let's
put
it
like
that,
so
with
epns,
what
we,
what
we
are
creating
is
that
opportunity
we
are
enabling
protocols
and
teams
and
projects
to
create
communication
channels
with
their
users
to
their
wallet,
addresses
to
the
very
same
wallet
addresses
that
they
use
to
interface
with
your
platform
right.
C
So
let's
say
you
have
a
loan
in
a
defined
platform
or
you're
participating
in
governance
or
nfd
marketplaces
anywhere
it
doesn't
matter.
The
very
same
wallet
that
you
are
using
to
play
in
those
platforms
is
the
very
same
wallet
where
you
will
be
receiving
notifications
about
your
activities
in
those
platforms.
So
that's
what
we're
building
and
we,
thankfully
we're
a
project
that
falls
in
in
the
communication
side
of
things.
So
it's
something
that
every
protocol
needs.
C
When
you
click
the
notification,
it
takes
you
to
the
platform
to
do
whatever
you
want
to
do
to
fix
that
situation,
and
that's
why
eps
becomes
really
a
useful
tool
for
for
usability
in
the
web3
space
as
well,
and
that
summarizes
what
we
are
trying
to
build
with
apns.
A
Yeah
fantastic,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
intro
very
interested
in
fioness
myself.
I
think
the
extao
has
experimented
with
you
guys
a
couple
times
already
and
obviously
looking
for
a
longer
term
relationship.
I
believe
the
most
recent
carrot
campaigns
we
kind
of
played
around
with
epns,
so
definitely
on
our
minds
as
well
as
for
the
discussion
today,
chatting
a
bit
about
dao
is
kind
of
what
they
are,
how
they
work.
I
figured
you
know.
Maybe
we
could
do
a
section
each
from
the
dxtao
side,
and
maybe
I
can
chat
first
here.
A
Kick
it
off
with
about
dows,
and
this
is
obviously
I
think,
a
lot
of
people
here
know
what
a
doubt
is
I'll.
Try
to
keep
it
brief
very
broadly,
but
dao
stands
for
decentralized,
autonomous
organization.
A
The
acronym
itself,
I
think,
is
the
best
way
to
really
understand
what
a
dao
is:
decentralized,
meaning
dispersed,
not
controlled
by
a
single
entity,
autonomous
of
course,
meaning
the
ability
to
control
your
own
affairs
in
the
case
of
a
dao,
obviously,
the
organization
having
the
ability
to
operate
independently,
not
be
obfuscated
by
government
bank,
etc
and
then,
of
course,
organization,
meaning
the
way
that
dows
collect
themselves
and
work
together.
A
So
that's
a
very
obviously
broad
chat
about
what
takes
what
dows
are
the
style.
I
think
we're
handling
things
a
little
bit
different
in
the
sense
that
we
take
the
dow
acronym
very
seriously
we're
very
decentralized
entirely
on
chain.
You
know
all
of
our
proposals
are
unchained,
including
payment,
et
cetera,
but
yeah.
That's
kind
of
an
overview
about
dowse,
obviously
dx
doubt
as
well
handling
kind
of
things
in
the
dfi
ecosystem,
but
let's
chat
a
bit
about
how
they
form
I'm
curious.
E
All
right
well,
while
chris
figures
out
his
mic,
I
could
say
briefly
that
I've
seen
a
lot
of
twitter
threats
recently
from
people
trying
to
ponder
on
what
a
dao
should
stand
for
and
there's
a
lot
of
confusion
about
the
a
in
the
a
acronym
people
think
it
stands
for
automated,
like
they
use
autonomous,
but
they
give
the
description
of
automated.
E
D
D
I
was
listening
to
nathan,
though
I
thought
nathan
was
doing,
yeah
a
good,
a
good
job
of
that
kind
of
explaining
daos
and
how
they're
they're
functioning
and
so
yeah.
I
think
from
a
broad
level,
they're
like
a
new
way
of
coordinating
and
forming,
and
it
builds
on
certain
basic
primitives
that
are
only
native
to
black
blockchain-based
ecosystems.
So
I
don't
think
we
really
know
exactly
what
form
daos
will
take
or
what
they're
going
to
be
best
at
we're
still
in
kind
of
the
initial
life-forming
goo
phase
of
that.
D
But
I
do
think
nathan
was
pointing
at
a
good
point
about
how
sovereignty
is
something
at
least
that
d'extal
values
in
terms
of
what
is
important
to
be
a
dao,
and
that
really
means
that
having
the
core
governance
power
of
the
dao
be
in
control
of
different
things
relating
to
the
dow.
D
So
that
really
hits
a
decentralization
too,
because
it
means
that
there
aren't
any
choke
points
that
an
individual
or
a
company
would
have
control
over
such
as
a
you
know,
a
bank
account,
or
maybe
they
have
like
a
multi-sig.
That
does
that.
So
really,
I
believe,
if
this
new
form
of
community
coordination
dials
this
new,
like
social,
primitive
for
coordinating,
if
we're
truly
going
to
unlock
like
what
what
it
could
do
for
society
in
terms
of
efficiency,
equity,
a
whole
bunch
of
things.
D
I
think
we
need
to
value
the
sovereignty
of
those
dows,
because
that's
what
will
enable
the
most
experimentation,
the
most
innovation
until
yeah,
because
we're
pushing
for
it
geeks
out.
A
E
E
It
just
happens
organically
and,
and
we've
seen
a
venn
diagram
from
tracheopterix
from
wyrn,
and
this
venn
diagram
is
an
intersection
of
what
you
are
good
at
what
you
love
doing
and
what
the
dow
needs
and
in
the
center,
when
they
all
intersect,
is
where
you
know
everything
converges,
and
it
all
makes
sense,
and
so
it
it's
been
a
long
journey,
since
probably
john
could
speak
more
of
it.
E
But
since
early
2019,
when
the
collective
started
growing
and
onboarding
new
contributors
from
from
the
wider
community,
but
it
all
happened
slowly
and
gradually
and
truly
organically
people
aligned
with
the
same
ideals
and
on
the
same
mission,
bringing
true
decentralization
to
defy.
A
C
Actually,
I
I
had
a
point
on
on
this
that
that
they
were
saying
so.
The
the
conversation
that
I
was
having
with
nathan
before
is.
It
was
more
because
you
know
once
you
try
to
join
a
dao
that
has
been
running
for
some
time.
Then
you
start
meeting
all
these
people
that
they
they
know
everything
about
it
right
they
they
can.
C
They
have
someone
so
much
knowledge
of
how
the
dow
have
been
growing
and
how
it
all
is
set
up
right
now,
but
it's
very
difficult
for
newcomers
to
jump
in
and
find
their
ways,
because,
right
now,
these
courts
are
truly
very
difficult
places
to
to
find
information.
C
C
Let's
say
because
that's
that's
at
the
end,
the
most
tangible
thing
that
you
can
do,
that
is
very
public
right,
but
there
are
so
many
other
activities
happening
in
in
adult
that
when
you
join
eight
hour
when
you
try
to
join
it
down,
that
initial
part
is
so
challenging
right
now
that
you
know
that
was
my
point
when
I
was
talking
with
nathan
how
how
to
make
onboarding
easier
for
for
newcomers.
C
That's
that's
a
challenge
right.
There.
E
Yeah
good
point:
jeff:
you
just
need
a
solid
core
contributor
community,
comprised
of
people
with
big
hearts,
wise
people
who
understand
that,
no
matter
how
long
they've
already
been
in
the
space,
it
could
have
been
five
ten
years.
They
know
that
you
never
stop
learning.
So,
even
when
a
newcomer
comes,
they
know
that
they're
pretty
much
in
the
same
boat
that
the
newcomer
may
feel
intimidated.
Oh
I
I
know
nothing
and
these
people
they're,
oh
geez.
E
They
know
everything,
but
if
those
people
are
really
wise
and
they
have
big
hearts,
they
will
help
this
person
on
board
because
they
know
themselves
that
they're
learning
new
stuff
every
day,
so
they're
not
much
different
and
I've.
When
I
initially
joined
tx
tao,
I
I
saw
that
in
in
the
core
contributor
community
and
in
a
way
I've
become
one
myself
and
we've
been
onboarding
people
and
trying
to
help
them
and
yeah.
But
generally
it
does
indeed
require
a
lot
of
effort
from
newcomers.
They
need
to
be
entrepreneurial.
E
A
Yeah-
and
I
think
it's
like
how
can
you
make
that
easier
for
people
and
we've
been
experimenting
with?
You
know
a
handful
of
different
things
at
dx
style,
we've
done
some
bounties,
we've
experimented
with
hackathons
and,
of
course,
something
that
victor
dev,
some
more
to
the
content
side.
A
We
experienced
some
fun
times
over
in
the
codeless
conduct,
no
code
hackathon
as
well
so
kind
of
just
opening
these
doors
and
giving
more
opportunity
as
well
for
people
you
know,
holding
the
door
for
those
on
the
way
in,
I
think,
is
important
as
well,
but
it's
definitely
a
dow
problem
for
onboarding
and
getting
everyone.
You
know
up
to
speed
and
opening
that
door
as
much
as
possible.
D
Hey
this
is
scott
here
jeff
I
had
a
question
for
you
because
you
are
starting.
Probably
I
guess
epns
is
starting.
This
journey,
but
epns
as
you
described,
has
a
has
like
the
potential
to
become
a
very
important
like
middleware
or
public
good
in
this
space.
Since
it's
the
first
communication
platform
that
would
allow
something
like
this
and
what
you've
seen
is
small
teams
of
people
that
have
built.
D
You
know
very
important,
valuable
public,
good
type
things
in
the
space,
whether
it's
ens
or
some
layer,
twos
or
yeah,
there's
a
whole
set
of
different
things
out
there
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
in
a
decentralized
world,
you
are
going
to
want
to
have
these
public
goods
owned
and
controlled
and
governed
by
an
actual
decentralized
group
or
of
the
users
and
the
builders
and
things
rather
than
just
the
small
team.
That's
kick-starting
it
and
building
it.
D
So
I
I
imagine
that
you
have
a
desire
to
some
people
use
the
word
progressive,
decentralization
but
over
time
kind
of
change.
The
change,
the
the
workings
of
how
something
like
this
public
good
would
be
governed,
and
so
your
interest
in
endows
and
how
they're
formed
and
how
people
can
start
to
participate
in
things.
Does
it
does
it
come
from
that
interest,
or
is
that
something
that
you
guys
are
already
thinking
about,
or
is
that
something
that's
will
comes
like
in
the
future?.
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you
so
yeah
we,
we
announced
us
starting
our
slow
decentralization
process
last
year
and
you
know,
even
even
since
we
launched
our
tokenomics
during
our
token
generation
event,
53
of
the
tokens
were
allocated
to
community
which
clearly
marks
our
intent
of
being
a
community
owned,
prodigal
right
and
right
now,
this
this
that
you
were
just
saying.
C
Sorry,
it's
exactly
what
is
what
is
happening
right
now.
We
it's
it's
a
it's,
an
effort
that
that
has
two
things
going
on.
In
parallel
on
the
technical
side,
we
need
to
ensure
that
we
decentralized
our
protocol
as
much
as
possible
so
that
we
give
opportunity
for
whoever
wants
to
participate
in
the
protocol,
providing
a
service
to
the
protocol
being
really
an
active
participant
and,
on
the
other
hand,
we
need
to
create
all
the
structures
and
all
the
organization.
C
Let's
use
this
network,
all
the
organization
that
can
handle
and
take
decisions
for
the
protocol,
and
you
know
once
you
start
like
analyzing,
a
little
more
the
importance
of
having
a
good
governance,
a
good,
dow
structure
in
place.
It's
because
this
being
a
protocol
in
service
of
of
every
other
protocol.
There
are
going
to
be
different
things
that
will
happen
with
the
protocol
that,
at
some
point,
it's
governance,
who
will
be
taking
decisions
that
will
affect
the
product
and
a
bad
decision
can
bring
everything
down
right.
C
So
right
now
we
are
in
a
process
where
we
are
educating
our
community
into
how
to
vote
and
some
of
the
activities
that
happens
in
a
dao
right
now.
Recently,
we
are
super
interested
and
super
into
into
implementing
coordinate
as
well,
because
we
want
to
start
onboarding
people
more
and
more
and
more,
but
right
now,
with
our
slow
decentralization
process
on
the
technical
side
of
things
and
keeping
in
parallel
the
dow
side
of
things.
C
C
Yeah
and
by
the
way,
it's
very
interesting
because
somebody
else
was
mentioning
it
before
to
me:
I've
been
I've
been
following
a
lot,
a
lot
of
coordinate
lately,
because
what
it
brings,
the
the
capabilities
of
organizing
small
groups
into
doing
something
meaningful
that
that
can
keep
the
community
engaged
is,
is
really
great.
So
we've
been
looking
a
lot
into
coordination
to
start
that
process
where
we
create
working
groups
and
stuff
like
that,.
D
Yeah
and
and
back
to
your
original
question
of
how
people
can
start
to
participate
in
collectives
and
yeah
spending.
A
lot
of
time
in
a
community
is
the
way
to
like
really
start
to
understand
how
all
the
parts
of
the
community
work,
but
because
we
have
kind
of
fractalization,
so
most
dows
have
either
squads
or
circles
or
work
streams
that
are
focused
on
very
specific
tasks.
D
The
better
you
a
collective
does
that
and
communicates
that
to
newcomers
and
people
that
are
observing
the
easier
it
is
for
new
people
to
figure
out
which
of
those
circles.
If
I'm
really
good
at
marketing
and
social
media.
I
know
that
I
should
come
into
the
dx
voice
squad
of
dxdow
and
that's
where
I
could
probably
start
to
have
interest
and
start
to
contribute
better
than
obviously
the
dev
squads
right
and
so
and
then,
as
you
do,
that
and
you
fractalize
the
different
places
that
contribution
is
coming
from.
D
That's
where
things
like
coordinate,
like
you
mentioned.
A
lot
of
dows
are
using
that
within
their
circles
or
squads.
That
then
gets
maybe
budget
from
the
the
greater
dao
and
then
there's
some
autonomy
within
that
squad
to
use
different
tools
and
decide
how
people
and
newcomers
are
compensated,
and
so
we
see
that
happening
yeah.
I
think,
there's
a
bunch
of
articles
and
research.
That's
published
on
that.
D
I'm
pretty
sure
there's
a
piece
by
peter
pan
that
really
talks
about
that
that,
but
without
without
having
that
breakup
of
one
giant
like
overall
collective,
it
is
almost
impossible
for
teams
smaller
groups
to
coordinate
and
then
newcomers
to
onboard
into
those
groups,
and
so
that
that's
it
kind
of
organically
happens.
And
you
see
this
with
divisions
of
companies
right,
there's
a
reason
that
exists
and
it
is
happening
in
the
web
3
space
as
well.
D
That's
also
really
interesting
and
that's
kind
of
what
coordinate
allows
a
random.
If,
if,
if
a
collective
has
every
month,
they
give
some
of
their
token
through
coordinate
to
people
that
have
been
contributing
value
like
out
of
nowhere
like
in
the
community
on
discord,
wherever
they
don't
work
for
the
collective,
they
just
decide
that
they're
going
to
contribute
value,
they
can
still
get
rewarded.
That
is
basically
impossible
in,
like
the
traditional
company.
You
can't
just
show
up
to
apple
and
say,
look
what
I
did.
I
I
got
a
hundred
more
people
to
buy
an
iphone.
C
Makes
a
lot
of
sense
and
yeah
part
of
the
reasons
why
I've
been
following
the
excel
so
closely
is
because
we've
been
learning
from
from
everywhere,
where
we
can
take
examples
and
take
a
direction
and
to
as
to
how
to
do
things
right.
It's
it's
a
still
learning
process
and
we're
getting
there
but
yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
That's
really
good
advice.
E
Yeah
and
and
some
final
thoughts
again,
you
know,
autonomy
should
not
be
mistaken
for
automation
and
I've
seen
solutions
springing
up
trying
to
solve
problems
that
probably
don't
exist.
You
know
you
have
people
being
awarded.
If
you
tweet,
you
get
an
nft.
If
you
do
this,
you
get
an
nft.
If
you
do
that,
you
get
an
nft
but
like
what's
the
point
behind
all
of
that,
like
you
could
have
hundreds
of
people
tweeting
about
something
and
all
getting
nfts
where's
the
organization
in
that,
and
that's
what
kind
of
like
sky
touched
on.
E
You
still
needs
organization.
You
still
need
leadership
and
you
you
can
have
leadership
in
with
a
flat
structure.
In
a
dow
you,
don't
you
don't
need
to
appoint
people
roles,
give
them
title
of
a
vice
president
director,
whatever
ceo
cfo,
you
just
need
people
to
take
initiative
and
self-organize,
but
when
we
speak
of
a
self-organizing
hive
mind,
this
should
not
be
taken
as
something
chaotic,
and
you
know
hazard.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
everyone
for
speaking
so
far.
I
love
the
everything
is
an
nft
mantra.
Can
you
guys
hear
me
seeing
no
feedback
yeah.
A
Okay,
excellent
yeah,
so
maybe
I'm
not
sure
if
we
want
to
chat
a
little
bit
more
about
dao's
before
moving
on,
maybe
just
a
bit
about
how
communities
are
kind
of
grown
and
engaged,
which
I
can
kind
of
start
kicking
off
and
I
think
the
the
most
obvious
way
is
or
like,
I
guess,
the
simplest
way
of
describing
it
would
be
they're
good
onboarding,
which
we've
already
kind
of
chatted
about
in
good
communication
outlets,
which
again,
we
kind
of
have
a
bit
but
good
organization
structures,
kind
of
inherently
grow
and
engage
communities
and
keeping
everyone
informed
and
transparent,
I
think,
is
very
important.
A
You
want
many
onboarding
outlets,
as
we've
kind
of
been
describing
trying
to
do
it
with
our
side.
We
want
to
make
the
process
easy
as
possible
and
then
our
communication
outlets,
we
have
a
whole
variety.
Obviously,
some
focusing
on
decentralization
some
focusing
on
the
community
and
the
most
important
facet
is
keeping
everyone
involved
and
aware
of
what's
going
on,
and
of
course,
engagement
comes
through
that.
A
D
Yeah,
I
think
organic
is
a
word
I
like
to
think
about
a
lot
with
dow's,
that
it
is
something
that
is
emergent,
orders
and
other
things,
something
that
kind
of
starts
small
and
kind
of
gradually
grows
and
adapts
as
it
grows,
and
so
I
think
the
same
thing
is
kind
of
true
with
the
community
and
building
structure,
and
so
I
think,
there's
like
this
continual
like
two-step
process,
with
dow's
growing,
and
this
is
what
I
think
is
happening
text
out
where,
like
at
first,
you
need
like
some
initial
period
of
like
letting
things
kind
of
emerge
and
happen,
and
so
this
is
more
like
freewheeling,
it's
like
who
kind
of
comes
into
the
dow.
D
What
type
of
things
are
interesting
like
there's,
there's
a
much
more
like
open
mentality
and
then,
once
you
see
certain
aspects
or
certain
successes
in
that
like
ecosystem
over
that
time,
then
you
try
to
build
some
structure
around
it
and
and
kind
of
implement
yeah
a
little
bit
more
formal
structure
around
that
existing
like
organic
force.
That
is
already
built
forward
and
then
once
you've
built
that
structure,
then
you
can
have
another
round
of
like
open
engagement
or
open
and
innovation
to
allow
for
another
round
of
like
emergent
order
coming
through.
D
So
I
think
dallas
like
really
need
to
be
constantly
switching
back
before
that
back
back
and
forth
between
those
two,
those
two
states
right,
one
state
being
allowing
open
innovation
and
the
other
kind
of
putting
some
structure
on
the
successes
and
things
that
have
emerged
from
the
community
and
I
think,
you've
seen
that
with
dick
style.
D
Right
like
dxo,
I
think,
has
a
very,
like
you
know,
as
a
long
history,
but
each
time
it's
it's
kind
of
first
things
of
emerging
out
of
the
community
like
swapper,
is
probably
the
best
example
of
this
right
swap
the
idea
to
fork.
Uniswap
was,
you
know,
emerged
out
of
the
community
and
it
took
a
while
for
that
to
develop.
But
now
we
have
like
a
structure
around
the
swapper
team
and
that
wasn't
something
that
someone
pre-planned
or
like
okay,
we
need
to
like
scale
and
build
a
decentralized
exchange
right.
D
It
was
this
idea
that
came
from
the
community
organically
and
then
developed
over
an
open
innovation
period
and
then
yet
now
we're
kind
of
in
the
process
of
putting
some
extra
structure
on
that.
So
I
think
that's
a
approach
that
dallas
can
use
for
lots
of
different
areas.
A
Excellent,
thank
you
very
much.
Chris.
We
do
have
one
dab
related
question
here
in
the
chat
on
the
discord
from
cosmic
grain.
Do
we
need
to
worry
about
dow
governance
trending
towards
favoring,
loud
voices
say
on
social
platforms
at
the
expense
of
quieter,
but
nonetheless
engaged
participants
curious
to
hear
maybe
skye
weighing
in
on
this
one.
D
You
know
some
of
the
early
investors
or
some
of
the
loudest
and
most
popular
influencers
in
the
space
or
on
on
crypto
twitter,
and
then
the
decision
making
the
decision
making
is
given
to
those
people
and
the
sys
these
systems,
all
very
new.
So
there's
not
a
great
way
for
people
to
like.
You
know
easily
take
back
their
delegation
and
move
it
around
and
do
it
in
like
a
live
liquid
way.
D
D
It
could
be
almost
a
full-time
job
to
be
a
governance
delegate
in
a
handful
of
protocols,
but
I
don't
think
they're
being
really
compensated
and
so
that
that
is
like
one
way
that
people
are
trying
to
solve
liquid
token
governance
and
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
come
with
liquid
token
governance.
There
are
other
types
of
governance,
and
obviously
with
vitalik's
recent
paper
about
soul,
bound
tokens
and
souls
and
non-transferable
governance,
power
and
building
online
or
web
3
reputation
and
your
web
3
profile,
and
all
things
like
that.
D
Whoever
has
the
most
money
can
can
buy
the
most
tokens
and
have
the
most
say,
and
so,
as
the
space
is
learning
that
these
things
exist
and
reputation
as
a
in
web
3
profile
reputation
and
things
is
becoming
a
more
popular
thing
that
people
are
talking
about
in
in
in
learning
about
you
will
start
to
see
that
governance
can
be,
can
can
come
out
of
that
whole
kind
of
layer
of
of
yeah
value
and
recognition
or
reputation.
D
Basically,
it's
reputation
and
so
yeah
if
yeah
to
the
original
question
like
quiet
people
with
good
ideas,
if
the
if
the
collective
is
structured
well
and
the
forum
is
open
and
discussions
are
open
and
and
feedback
is
taken
by
all
voting
decision
makers
from
the
greater
community,
then
there
is
a
it
takes
effort,
but
there
is
a
good
way
to
continue
to
allow
the
the
small,
the
ideas
that
come
from
less
loud
people
into
your
community
and
yeah
getting
ideas
into
a
collective
and
passing
them
through
a
collective.
D
It's
a
little
bit
like
passing
a
bill
through
congress,
it's
probably
more
efficient
than
that,
but
any
idea
yeah
any
so
dx
now
is
very
unique.
Anyone
in
the
world
can
make
a
proposal
to
dxdial
right.
That's
not
the
case
in
other
communities
where
you
have
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
tokens
or
a
certain
amount
of
a
certain
position
or
something
so
anyone
can
make
a
proposal
to
dxdao.
D
Anyone
can
propose
an
idea
in
the
forum
and
that
idea
will
get
looked
at
and
interpreted
by
the
the
community
and
there
is
a
mechanism
in
governance,
holographic
consensus,
whereas
if
it's
a
good
idea,
it
should
be,
you
know,
staked
on
and
that
idea
will
rise
to
the
top
and
then
the
the
collective
has
to
make
a
decision
on
that
idea.
That
is
proposed.
E
Well
said,
I
wish
to
add
something:
I've
seen
people
recently
bashing
trustlessness
and
I
honestly
don't
get
it
like
how?
How
could
you
be
in
defy
and
bash
trustlessness
power
is
centralized
and
basically
you
know
what
was
that
saying.
Power
corrupts
ultimately
and
ultimate
power
corrupts
ultimately,
and
so,
basically,
when
you
have
daos
with
multi-sticks,
the
ultimate
power
is
concentrated
in
those
people
controlling
the
multisig,
so
the
voice
of
others
is
in
a
way
silenced
because
it
doesn't
really
matter
with
off
chain
voting
and
whatnot.
E
In
dxdar
we
have
the
treasury
managed
trustlessly
and
it
matters
it's
the
foundation
of
everything
our
governance
system
is
on
chain
and
also
how
can
we
have
leadership
and
a
flat
structure
at
the
same
time,
and
chris
touched
on
it
in
his
talk
at
the
taoist
in
amsterdam,
dowels
have
to
have
autonomy
and
sovereignty,
but
individuals
within
dao
should
also
have
autonomy
and
sovereignty,
and
that's
that's
how
the
current
setup
is.
E
No
one
can
silence
me,
you
know
so
when,
if,
if
I
it,
we
can
appoint
indirectly,
you
know
unsung
heroes
and
leaders
that
are
leading
certain
initiatives,
but
the
dao
and
the
community
can
always
intervene
at
any
point.
They
lose
trust
in
that
individual
and
they
cannot
be
silenced.
So
this
is
this
is
a
trustless
setup.
A
Yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
insight
from
you
too.
Just
seeing
john
on
the
stage
is
the
mic
working
now.
Can
you
hear
me
oh
loud
and
clear.
A
Damn
twitter
app
man,
yeah
we've
talked
about
a
lot
kind
of
dow
related
stuff
curious.
If
you
had
any
insights,
john
kind
of
on
the
topics
we've
been
going
through,
or
maybe
even
anything
on
this
dow
training
towards
favoring,
loud
voices,
discussion.
B
I
hope
there
will
be
a
way
for
people
who
are
less
comfortable
kind
of
getting
up
on
a
community
call
or
like
a
twitter
space
like
what
have
you
and
like
articulating
or
even
just
tweeting
right,
like
I
think
there
nee
is
hopefully
going
to
be
ways
for
people
to
yeah
like
gain
like
have
a
voice
without
necessarily
having
to
be
good
at
like
talking
and
like
sky
was
saying
how
you
know
anybody
can
make
a
proposal
in
in
dx
style
like
that.
I
think,
is
the
throat
in
the
right
direction.
B
I
think
what
we're
missing
is
like
tighter
feedback
loops.
You
know,
I
think,
like
if
you
think
of
like
forum
polls
and
that
kind
of
thing
ways
where,
like
people,
can
kind
of
throw
up
ideas
and
get
feedback
on
that
idea.
I
think
we're
still
in
like
a
very
kind
of
archaic
form
of
that
and
I'm
hoping
we'll
see
a
lot
of
innovation
in
that
direction.
Where
you
know,
good
ideas
can
kind
of
come
from
anywhere
in
a
community
and
in
a
very
large
community
and
become
surfaced
and-
and
I
think,
yeah
we.
A
Yeah
definitely
definitely
agree
yeah
excellent,
so
I
get
through
the
majority
of
the
primary
topics
we
wanted
to
hit.
I
guess
jack
is
there
anything
that
you
would
like
to
touch
on
while
we
have
you.
C
No,
I
was
just
taking
notes
about
everything
that
you
were
saying,
not
really
good,
good,
awesome
conversation.
To
be
honest,
we
are
in
a
great
great
position
right
now
at
the
pns,
because
we
are
starting
right
so
this
this
discussion
that
was
just
happening
about
loud
voices
and
stuff.
C
We
are
in
a
great
position
because
right
now
is
the
moment
that
you
know
if
you
start
participating
in
our
community
and
start
participating
in
our
discussions,
then
you
are
going
to
become
a
leader
for
the
community
and
and
there
is
so
much
room
for
opportunity,
but
really
it's
been
a
truly
great
learning
experience
for
me
just
to
hear
this
conversation
happening.
A
Yeah
fantastic.
We
really
appreciate
you
being
here,
of
course.
Next
up
on
the
agenda
today
is
the
dxgov
q2
report
and
update,
which
I
think
jack
would
be
quite
interesting
to
you,
our
kind
of
decentralized
framework
and
how
we're
moving
towards
that
so
feel
free
to
stick
around.
Of
course,
you're
welcome
to
stay
on
the
stage
as
well.
If
you
have
anything
to
share,
and
thank
you
again
for
your
time
of
course,
thank
you.
A
Excellent,
I
would
love
to
invite
ross
here
onto
the
stage.
I
guess
the
space,
I'm
sure
I'm
gonna
conflate
spaces
and
stages
for
the
rest
of
my
life
now,
but
would
love
to
invite
you
ross
to
speak
to
the
dx
gov
q2
ish
report
and
update
here.
A
F
Okay,
awesome
yeah,
that's
weird!
There's
no,
like
feedback
really,
first
delayed
yeah,
so
we
just
published
the
date
scarf
q2
h
report,
just
because
it's
not
exactly
on
q2,
but
it
seemed
like
the
best
title.
F
F
But
dsgov
is
the
the
team
that's
been
established
to
work
on
and
build
out
the
styles
own
governance,
as
well
as
the
idea
of
improving
governance
across
the
ecosystem,
yeah,
and
so
this
account
report
kind
of
just
goes
over
like
what
we've
been
doing
up
to
this
point,
as
well
as
like
how
that's
changing
in
the
next
in
the
next
bit
of
time
and
the
the
main
part
it
really
focuses
on
is
the
idea
of
like
legacy,
support
versus
building
the
future.
F
A
Yeah
just
super
quick
for
anyone
following
along
yeah
super
quick.
That
link
is
in
the
discord,
chat
and
those
of
you
that
have
joined
us
a
bit
later.
You
can
find
dx
discord,
link
the
excel.
The
host
of
this
call
click
on
the
profile
and
the
discord
link
should
be
there
at
the
top
in
the
banner.
All
of
the
chat
is
happening
in
the
mothership
text,
which
is
right
at
the
top
of
the
server
go
ahead.
Ross.
F
Awesome,
thank
you
yeah.
So
the
the
main
sort
of
chunk
of
this
update
is
regarding
legacy
versus
building
new
stuff,
so
they
for
some
context
around
this.
F
The
the
system
of
governance
that
the
xtel
uses
is
built
by
dow
stack
and
originally
that
shipped
with
an
alchemy
front,
end
which
is
controlled
by
valve
stack
and
outside,
aren't
really
supporting
it
anymore.
But
it's
still
like
the
main.
The
main
voting
interface
meant
to
work
with
this,
and
so
sometime
last
year,
jake
style
started
working
on
and
it
was
still
built
out
basically
our
own
interface.
For
this.
F
That
can
be
more
decentralized,
more
secure
because
we
had
problems
with
all
communication
going
down
and
it
kind
of
turned
into
the
team
and
our
scope,
then
kind
of
changed
to
be
more
of
like
an
improving
governance,
improving
governance
as
a
whole
for
ourselves,
as
well
as
the
entire
ecosystem,
and
I
guess
the
the
main
takeaways
from
what
we've
learned
recently-
is
that
it's
quite
difficult
focusing
on
both
of
those
of
supporting
the
style,
which
is
like
a
very,
very
important
part
of
what
we
do.
F
As
we've
already
gone
over
a
bit
in
the
caller
fully
on
chain,
it's
all
like
it's,
it's
permissionless,
which
is
obviously
good,
but
is
scary
from
a
security
perspective
and
so
having
that
stable,
reliable
way
of
accessing
and
interfacing
and
securing
the
dow
in
its
treasury
is
very
important.
F
And
so
the
main
updates
to
this
is-
and
you
can
read
the
forum
post
for
some
more
context
as
well
as
details,
but
we're
now
splitting
the
applications
that
we
own
and
maintain
into
the
export
legacy
and
the
new
application
which
we've
kind
of
been
building
in
parallel,
but
in
the
same
repo
for
a
while
for
guilds.
So
this
is
taking
everything
we've
been
doing
and
then
just
upgrading
the
ux
of
everything.
F
We've
got
a
whole
new
ui
and
we're
doing
a
lot
of
things
quite
differently
in
the
ui
just
to
make
it
a
much
better
experience
and
if
you're
interested,
of
course,
we'll
be
debuting
a
lot
of
this
stuff
as
we're
just
waiting
for
audit
reports
for
for
a
few
contracts.
Right
now.
But
after
that,
we
will
start
going
into
production
with
this
new
application
and
it'll
be
very
fun.
F
Showing
that
off
to
everyone
so
yeah,
that's
the
the
main
part,
there's
also
some
more
details
about
how
we're
technically
deploying
these
new
contracts
and
working
with
legacy
versus
old.
So
if
you're
interested
in
diving
into
like
the
more
technical
details
of
how
an
unchained
dao
actually
operates,
it's
probably
going
to
be
quite
interesting
for
you
there's
a
lot
of
stuff.
You
know
it's
very
easy
for
us
or
relatively
easy.
F
F
If
we
do
something
wrong,
you
know
we
have
to
think
properly
about
security,
or
else
the
dow
just
disappears
and
so
yeah
there's
a
also
a
few
more
bits
of
detail
in
the
report
that
you're
more
than
welcome
to
read
through.
I
want,
I
guess,
we're
getting
a
bit
short
on
time
now,
so
we're
going
to
them,
but
just
generally
we're
also
going
to
be
trying
to
be
a
bit
more
public
as
we're
getting
closer
to
production.
F
A
Yeah
excellent,
thank
you
very
much
ross.
I
do
have
one
high
level
question
just
for
programming
sake
here
for
those
of
us
in
the
audience
that
may
or
may
not
know
about
what
dx
gov
is
and
what
you
guys
are
trying
to
do.
Maybe
you
have
a
quick
brief
overview
of
what
dx
gov
is
and
kind
of
what
you
guys
are
aiming
to
provide.
You
know
like
as
a
service.
Obviously
guilt
we've
talked
a
bit
about,
but
just
a
little
higher
level.
F
Yeah,
certainly
so
yeah
the
original
motivation,
as
I
kind
of
mentioned
before,
was
kind
of
for
the
style
itself.
The
main
goal
is
just
to
improve
our
own
governance,
but
talking
to
people
in
conferences
and
stuff,
the
focus
is
very
much
not
very
much
shifted
it
kind
of
just
expanded
into
oh.
What
we're
building
is
actually
like.
Other
people
are
interested
in
other
people
kind
of
want
what
we
have.
F
What
we're
building,
and
so,
I
would
say,
like
the
high-level
goal,
is
to
one
improve
our
own
governance:
that's
with
governor's
2.0
security,
just
general
general,
like
ux,
and
improving
the
dow
overall,
but
and
then
furthering
that
is
bringing
our
own
values
and
allowing
other
people
to
to
replicate
that
and
to
have
it
for
their
own
projects.
That
may
be
completely
different
from
dxdow,
but
still
want
that
proper
autonomy
and
decentralization
that
the
excel
values
so
much.
A
A
If
you
have
not
already
next
topic
here,
only
a
couple
left
here
and
at
the
top
of
the
hour
almost
I
wanted
to
chat
quickly
about
a
forum
post
that
nathan
put
together
titled
liquidity,
provisioning
and
farming
and
swapper
it's
a
bit
of
a
tutorial
kind
of
running
through
how
to
use
the
swapper
interface
and
whatnot.
Would
you
like
to
take
that
away
here.
E
Yeah,
thanks
for
the
opportunity
keenan
to
give
it
a
brief
pre-history
in
in
in
most
non-custodial
applications
like
decentralized
exchanges,
where
you
know
the
user
is
given
full
control
of
their
funds
at
all
times.
It's
honestly
not
really
easy
to
abstract,
like
the
whole
journey
in
a
single
click
of
a
button
without
compromising
on
security,
so
in
in
most
cases,
users
need
to
go
through.
You
know
every
step
of
the
way
to
accomplish
certain
tasks,
and
it
can
be
a
bit
daunting.
E
So
the
ux
is
not
ideal.
The
the
learning
curve
is
kind
of
steep.
So
there's
this
avid
need
for
more
educational
resources,
because
the
the
current
state
of
affairs
is
a
bit
too
much
for
the
novice
crypto
user.
Coming
from
the
you
know
and
accustomed
to
the
fintech
of
the
web
2
world,
and
having
said
this,
swapper
has
always
put
the
user
first
swapper
pioneered
this
unique
functionality.
E
So
it's
kind
of
like
user-centric
and
at
the
same
time
I
felt
like
there's
still
a
need
to
give
a
bit
of
tutorial
to
newcomers,
how
to
provide
liquidity
farm
tokens
and
on
the
topic
of
that,
the
tutorial
helps
guide
users
through
the
stages
of
adding
liquidity
staking
in
farms
and
moving
stake
to
new
campaigns.
E
On
the
the
user-centric
side
of
swapper.
I
could
also
say
we
are
close
to
releasing
a
new
version
beta-12
that
will
actually
also
feature
a
novel,
meta
bridge
aggregator.
It's
an
integration
of
all
the
well-known,
both
canonical
and
multi-chain
bridging
solutions
in
the
evm
space.
It
will
allow
users
to
transfer
liquidity
across
networks,
because
swapper
itself
is
a
multi-chain
application
and
yeah.
Maybe
in
conclusion,
I
could
mention
that
dx
dow
has
also
released
an
alpha
version
of
a
very
useful
solution
for
programmable
community
incentives
with
conditional
tokens.
E
It
has
numerous
use
cases
yet
to
be
seen,
but
guarantedosa
showcased,
primarily
in
swapper
farms,
it's
a
protocol
of
its
own,
but
we've
noticed
people's
excitement
on
one
hand,
you
know
with
farmers
and
teams
themselves
who
have
saved
a
lot
of
money
on
their
campaigns,
leveraging
carrots,
but
also,
on
the
other
hand,
people
new
to
the
space
may
struggle
to
fully
grasp
what
carrot
is
at
first
glance,
so
I
tried
to
explain
a
little
bit
about
carrot
as
well.
E
Overall,
I
feel
like
dx
style
is
doing
a
great
job
with
you
at
the
helm.
You
know
managing
the
blog
and
there's
great
information
resource
people
could
find
in
in
the
the
ex-style
blog
so
yeah,
I'm
trying
to
be
mindful
of
time
here.
A
Yeah,
of
course,
and
speaking
of
blog,
looking
to
experiment
with
mirror
as
well
soon,
so
hopefully
you
can
find
all
our
articles
wherever
you
choose
to
read,
but
thank
you
very
much
nathan
also
being
mindful
of
time
here
for
myself,
I
want
to
quickly
chat
about
the
arbitrary
gnosis
chain.
Final
funding
emissions
proposal
for
swapper
token-
we'll
keep
it
very
very
brief,
but
basically
both
arbitrage
and
no
sustain
are
going
to
need
some
additional
swapper
to
top
up
their
emissions
backlog.
A
So
basically,
this
proposal
goes
through.
You
know
what
has
been
emitted
where
it
can
be
found
and
why
it
needs
some
more
swapper,
so
this
proposal
actually
would
fund
to
the
top
of
the
14
million
software
allocation.
In
the
initial
you
know,
swapper
authorization
proposal,
so
lots
of
info
there.
I
believe
it's
requesting
2.24
million
swapper
split
between
arbitrary
and
gnosis
chain.
This
is
obviously
going
to
be
used
between
the
cow
campaigns
and
the
arbitrary
odyssey
event,
as
well
so
important
that
this
gets
moved
through
before
the
june
9th
proposal.
A
I
believe
the
proposal
will
be
up
today
and
yeah.
You
can
take
a
look
as
well
there
for
why
it's
not
exactly
14
million
there's
actually
13.93.
That
would
be
moved
total
after
the
proposal,
the
big
reason
being
that
there's
some
that's
unaccessible
from
around
some
analysis.
Sorry,
some
allocation
shifts.
A
There
needs
to
be
some
discussions
on
how
the
an
unallocated
fund
will
be
utilized
exactly
so
it
will
be
slightly
short
as
far
as
requests
go,
but
it
will
be
enough
for
what
it
needs,
and
then
we
can
move
those
funds
around
a
little
bit
ones
that
we
already
have
access
to.
Of
course,
yeah.
That
about
does
it
for
me,
you
can
find
that
post
in
the
chat
as
well
and
the
discord
just
being
mindful
again
at
the
top
of
the
hour.
A
A
As
confusion,
no,
there
was
a
twitter
space
last
night.
I
guess
my
time
pst
for
an
nft
project.
I
think
goblin
town
is
the
name
and
it
was
a,
I
think,
three
and
a
half
hour
twitter
space
with
2
500
viewers
kind
of
throughout
most
of
the
call-
and
it
was
just
you
were
only
allowed
to
be
a
speaker
if
you
spoken
in
goblin
or
you
know,
sounding
like
a
gremlin
or
whatever
they
have
going
on.
It
was
probably
the
most
surreal
experience
I've
ever
I've
ever
listened
to.
A
I
put
a
tweet
about
it
up
on
my
page
and
also
in
the
chat
here
in
discord.
So
if
you
are
interested
in
the
chaos
of
the
bear
market,
you
can
see
what
crypt
is
all
about
here.
A
A
As
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
the
call
operation,
decentralization,
the
excel's
very
own-
show,
will
be
kicking
off
in
the
coming
weeks
on
twitter
spaces,
formal
date
for
that
coming
soon
here
in
the
next
week,
or
so
so
pay
attention
to
that
on
the
dx
social
channels,
but
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much.
Everyone
for
attending
we'll
see
you
next
week
in
the
dx,
thou,
dick
scored
for
us
stages
and
then
the
week
after
that,
of
course,
back
to
spaces,
we'll
be
alternating
them
bi-weekly.