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A
Hello,
hello
and
good
morning,
everybody
I'm
your
host
keenan
welcome
to
the
may
12th
2022
weekly,
dx
style
community
call
today
we're
gonna
chat
a
bit
about
swapper
and
carrot
campaigns,
dx
stats
and
a
bit
of
casual
conversation
about
luna,
ust
and
general
stables
losing
their
pegs
and
how
that
could
affect
the
exile.
We
have
been
chatting
a
bit
about
that
in
the
pre-call
here,
but
a
little
bit
more
context
on
that
in
a
bit.
A
You
can
find
the
agenda
here
in
the
mothership
channel.
Gonna
drop
it
here,
quick.
A
B
Away
might
be
a
bit
ambitious,
but
I
can
get
an
update
on
some
things.
We've
done
in
governance
last
couple
weeks.
The
big
one
is
a
current
live
proposal
for
the
dxd
buyback
program,
adjustments
and
clarification.
Hopefully
those
a
lot
of
community
members
will
be
familiar
with
this.
This
has
been
discussed
on
this
call,
many
other
discussions
and
the
discord
in
the
forum.
B
So
this
one
is
another
extension
of
the
buyback
proposal,
but
more
importantly,
that
it
does
some
adjustments
in
terms
of
the
accounting
of
the
dxd
that
has
been
purchased
as
it's
split
between
the
general
treasury
and
the
buy
back
reserve.
B
So
hopefully,
this
provides
some
some
clarity,
moving
forward
and
kind
of
lays
out
a
a
plan,
for
you
know
dxd
over
the
coming
months,
to
give
some
confidence
to
dc
token
holders
and
other
investors,
especially
during
these
turbulent
times
but
anyway.
So
that's
a
proposal
that
is
live
on
mainnet
now.
I
think
it's
got
four
more
days
to
pass.
There
is
a
corresponding
mirror
proposal
on
gnosis
chain
for
those
interested
in
voting
and
expressing
support
for
that.
That
would
be
great.
B
Outside
of
that,
there's
been,
you
know
the
usual
mix
of
worker
proposals
and
some
farming
proposals
that
have
been
going
on
lots
of
lots
of
proposals
more
recently
and
then
the
last
thing
is.
There
is
also
it's
kind
of
cutting
in
the
treasury
discussion.
B
There
is,
I
believe,
a
proposal
for
live
for
to
increase
the
amount
of
stake
eath
through
stakewise,
and
so
that's
also
on
mainnet,
and
that's
also
been
discussed
a
bunch
in
the
forum
there
yeah
and
that's
kind
of
updates
from
the
last
couple
weeks.
C
Yeah,
I
think,
like
that
proposal
about
the
buy-back
extension
right.
It
calls
for
some
patient
on,
like
the
dxd
token
model,
which
I
think
yeah
we
needs
to
be
done,
and
hopefully
we
can
accomplish
that
as
a
community
over
the
next
month
or
two
here
and
like
for
context.
I
don't
know
if
how
much
people
know
about
like
the
history
of
the
bonding
curve
right.
The
original,
like
implementation
of
the
bonding
curve,
which
is
still
exists,
but
it's
like
been
paused,
is
like
not
minting
anything.
C
It
had
like
a
buyback
reserve
right,
which
still
has
about
2
500
in
it
and
like
the
design
of
this,
like
bonding
curve,
was
that
as
the
projects
you
know,
the
project
like
the
excel
makes
fees.
It
can
send
these
fees
into
the
buyback
reserve
right,
which
would
raise
the
floor
price
like
the
sell
price
on
the
curve
for
txd
now
way.
That
curve
works,
though
with
the
pre-mint.
So
there
was
like
a
hundred
thousand
hd
pre-mint,
which
is
kind
of
like
getting
unlocked
to
the
dx-style
treasury
over
three
years.
C
C
So
it
really
was
kind
of
just
like
sitting
there
and
it's
like
2500
each
just
sort
of
like
sitting
there,
and
you
know,
I
think
this
buyback
program
that
has
existed
is
basically
a
switch
from
saying
like
hey
this
passive,
like
buyback
reserve,
doesn't
really
make
sense
like
should
be
used
actively
to
buy
back
this
undervalued,
dxd
or
like
this,
you
know
kind
of
below
net
asset
value
dxd,
and
so
I
think
that's
like
what
has
happened
and
what
we
still
have
to
answer
is
like
what
is
the
general
dxd
token
model,
though
right?
C
How
do
fees
get
delivered
to
dxd
in
terms
of
value?
How
does
the
treasury
you
know
the
general
treasury,
which
is
like
supporting
product
development
like
get
used
and
managed
kind
of
beyond
runway
for
for
product
development?
I
do
think
it's
very
important
that,
like
runway
is
like
the
first
and
foremost
purpose
of
the
treasury,
but
if
it's
doing
well
well
beyond
what
is
needed
for
runway,
then
I
think
it
also
makes
sense
to
think
about
that,
but
yeah
I
it
should
be
a
good
discussion.
B
Yeah
I
mean,
despite
the
the
current
market
right
now,
it
does
kind
of
feel
like
we're
at
the
right
time
to
as
these
things
kind
of
move
forward,
and
it's,
I
think,
it's
kind
of
good
in
a
community
like
this
for
people
you
know
for
us
to
all
be
on
the
same
page
and
kind
of
slowly
work
through
these
ideas-
and
you
know,
I
think
you
know
the
buy-back
program
just
all
of
the
discussions
around
it,
managing
it
and
kind
of
how
different
things
to
adjust.
B
I
think
that
helps
inform
where
we
are
now
and
then
even
this
discussion
about
what
to
do
going
forward
that
we've
had
over
the
last,
like
you
know,
couple
weeks
and
months
has
like
kind
of
brought
us
all
to
another
realization
about.
Okay,
these
are
the
things
we
needed
to
move
for
going
forward.
B
So
I
think
that
that
like
kind
of
slow
build
up
of
yet
consensus,
it's
going
kind
of
at
the
right
speed
and
I
think
that's
how
we
can
do
things
going
forward
of
the
the
dxd
token
model,
and
so
just
in
terms
of
the
the
specifics
of
the
proposal
and
how
that
works
right
there.
Basically,
I
think,
there's
a
short-term
confidence.
That's
given
in
this
immediate
by
that
proposal
and
that's
on
the
account
in
between
dxd,
and
it
also
proposes
to
basically
burn
10
000
dxd.
B
So
I
think
that
is
like
a
way
to
give
some
short-term
confidence
in
dxd
and
then
there's
a
medium-term
confidence
of
okay
and
when
the
buy-back
reserve
does
deplete,
there
will
be
some
general
support
from
the
general
treasury
or
there
can
be
some
way
of
supporting
it
as
long
as
we
have
some
of
those
ideas
accounted
for
in
terms
of
runway
and
funding,
and
then
that,
and
so
that's
the
medium-term
confidence
and
then
the
long-term
confidence
is
okay
over
that
time.
B
Now
that
we've
bought
ourselves
some
time
with
how
of
painting
a
direction
of
where
dxd
is
gonna
go.
How
can
we
have
like
a
larger
conversation,
really
think
about
like
yeah,
where
things
will
go
from
here
so
yeah?
I
think
it's
yeah
moving
along
at
a
good
speed,
and
you
know,
regardless
of
what
happens
with
the
market
here.
You
know
this
is
a
discussion
that
is
you're
really
irrespective
of
prices
and
things
going
on
in
the
market.
B
It's
just
like
how
to
how
to
make
this
make
a
structure
that
is
you
know.
Automated
is
fair,
is
efficient
kind
of
accomplishes
all
the
different
needs
from
geek
style,
so
yeah.
A
Excellent,
thank
you
john
and
chris
just
quickly,
cycling
back
to
a
topic.
We
chatted
before
the
call.
Actually
for
those
of
you
listening
to
the
recording
apologies,
you
might
have
missed
some
context.
We
are
chatting
about
front
end
hacks,
namely
honey,
swap
and
kind
of
the
limo
router.
We
actually
have
serial
saver
from
limo,
I
believe
you're,
the
lead
developer,
feel
free
to
give
an
introduction,
and
maybe
we
can
chat
a
bit
about
verifying
content,
hashes
and
front
ends.
D
Yeah,
thank
you,
hey
guys,
so
yeah
serial
saber
work
with
my
brother
syd
mead
on
the
limo
project
kind
of
handle
all
the
engineering
work
in
the
progress
process
right
now
of
refactoring,
a
bunch
of
stuff
for
kind
of
the
core
infrastructure.
These
are
quality
of
life
improvements,
that'll
kind
of
let
us
support
the
cross
chain.
Interoperability,
stuff,
wild
cards,
different
types
of
records,
so
you
know
redirecting
redirecting
you
to
your
github
page
twitter,
url
things
that
kind
of
just
fall
outside
of
that
normal
content.
D
Hash
paradigm,
that
you
know
average
users
may
not
leverage.
But
you
know
this
kind
of
gives
them
a
single
point
of
focus
and
contact
to
be
able
to
give
someone.
You
know
a
url
and
then
have
it
go
to
wherever
they
want
it
to
so.
Working
on
that
and
we're
doing
some
big,
lift
and
shift
on
the
underlying
cloud
infrastructure.
That
runs
this
kind
of
getting
it
to
a
point
where
it's
going
to
be
in
a
better
position
to
scale
not
just
in
terms
of
request
load
but
also
in
terms
of
multi-region
rollout.
D
So
we
can
start
actually
building
something.
That's
more
akin
to
a
cdn
with
you
know:
better
user
experience
for
latency
and
geographic
routing
and
all
that
stuff,
and
just
a
little
bit
about
me.
My
background
has
been
within.
You
know:
startups
mostly
kind
of
cloud
devops
infrastructure
engineering,
all
of
that
stuff.
So
it's
been
fun
to
work
on
this
project.
D
You
know
we're
very
big
proponents
of
privacy,
so
you
know
kind
of
the
main
selling
point
for
the
limo
service
is
that
you
know
we
don't
log
ip
addresses
and
we're
actually
kind
of.
I
guess
tangential
to
this
discussion
on
ipfs
verification.
D
We're
also
trying
to
come
up
with
a
way
where
we
can
allow
anyone
any
end
user
to
kind
of
verify
the
the
configuration
that
we
say
that
we're
running
we're
looking
at
some
different
ways
of
kind
of
signing
stuff
and
using
trusted
computing
environments,
so
that
we
can
have
some
sort
of
attestation
where
you
can
actually
come
in
and
prove
like.
Yes,
you're,
not
logging
ip
addresses.
I
can
confirm
that.
So
that's
something!
That's
in
the
works
but
yeah.
A
Yeah
excellent,
thank
you
so
much
and
glad
to
have
you
here.
A
D
D
So
we've
been
aware
of
this:
we've
known
this
is
something
that's
you
know
a
potential
risk,
not
just
for
our
service,
but
really
in
general,
I
mean
any
kind
of
gateway
service
kind
of
suffers
from
the
same
trust
model,
so
we've
been
working
with
some
people
at
the
ethereum
foundation
on
coming
up
with
you
know,
brainstorming
some
ways
that
we
could
potentially
put
those
attestations
in
place.
D
We've
got
some
kind
of
rough
sketches
of
how
we
think
things
could
work,
but
you
know
part
of
the
dilemma
here
is
that
you
know
behind
the
scenes
so
the
whole.
You
know
one
of
the
advantages
of
using
limo
or
link
god
forbid,
but
you
know
just
throwing
that
out.
There
is
that
you
know
your
your
client,
you
don't
need
any
kind
of
plug-in.
D
You
know
you
don't
need
metamask
anything
like
this,
so
this
is
really
good
for
obviously,
people
that
are
on
mobile
and
just
kind
of
casual
browsers
of
you
know,
d,
websites
and
stuff.
When
you
start
getting
into
verifying
what
we
send
back.
You
know
I
can't
really
think
of
a
way
around,
not
having
you
know.
Either
there
be
a
plug-in
which
then
you
know
basically
kind
of
defeats.
D
The
purpose
of
using
the
service,
where
you
know
metamask
or
brave,
could
still
you
know,
do
ens
resolution
but
you're
still,
depending
on
cloudflare
to
actually
do
like
the
underlying
the
way
that
that
stuff
works
largely-
and
I
you
know
opera
seems
to
be
very
similar
but
you're,
pointing
to
cloudflare's
dns
resolver
that
it's
dns
over
https
and
it
just
will
basically
send
you
back
a
text
record
with
a
dns
dns
link
value
that
points
to
you
know
the
ipfs
hash
and
then,
at
that
point
your
browser.
D
If
it's
running
you
know
bootstrap
ipfs,
node
or
something
like
that,
you
basically
just
kind
of
get
transparently
proxied
to
that
behind
the
scenes.
Now,
when
you're
talking
about
limo
as
a
service,
because
we
do
all
that
behind
the
scenes
and
kind
of
the
way
that
it
works,
is
that
you
know
we
get
the
request,
we
strip
out
the
dot
limo.
So
we've
got,
you
know
your
ens
name
or
you
know
subdomains
within
an
es
name.
Then
we,
you
know,
do
a
lookup
on
that.
Get
that
content
hash
record
back.
D
You
know!
Do
the
multi
kodak
decoding
on
it
figure
out
what
type
of
content
hash
it
is
and
then
try
to
send
it
to
the
right
location
and
then
proxy,
that
back
to
the
user,
there
are
a
couple
of
projects
that
we've
become
aware
of
that
you
know
have
attempted
to
solve
some
of
this
and
I'll
drop
this
in
the
mothership
text
channel,
and
this
this
was
brought
to
our
attention
earlier
last
week
and
we
talked
with
the
ethereum
foundation
a
little
bit
about
this.
D
Richard
moore
does
a
lot
of
really
good
library
development
work
for
like
the
ethers.js
project
and
stuff,
and
this
was
kind
of
an
early
attempt
at
basically
solving
a
different
kind
of
problem,
but
we
think
that
there
might
be
a
solution
somehow
embedded
into
this,
that
we're
trying
to
to
reason
about,
but
this
project
was
a
way
of
kind
of
working
around
origin
isolation
within
browsers.
So
if
you
went
to
like
dweb.link
slash,
ipfs
slash
whatever
hash,
you
know
any
other
ipfs
hash,
that's
being
served
off
of
that.
D
It's
a
common
origin
in
terms
of
the
security
context
of
the
browser,
and
so
this
me
seeks
application
was
kind
of
a
way
of
basically
delivering
like
static
content
to
the
browser.
That
would
I
frame
this
request
and
and
kind
of
attempt
to
isolate
it
at
an
origin
level
that
you
know,
I
guess,
works
if
you're
using
one
of
these
common
path-based,
ipfs
gateways
doesn't
necessarily
at
least
that
I'm
aware
of
solve
the
problem
that
we
have
right
now.
D
But
it
does
bring
up
an
interesting
point
where
you
know
it
may
be
possible
to
have
like
a
secure
version
of
limo.
So
to
speak,
where
you
know
part
of
that
request
process
is,
you
know
downloading.
You
know
a
very
small
little
piece
of
static
content
that
can
be
verified,
and
then
you
retrieve
your
stuff
through
the
iframe
and
then
from
there.
You
can
kind
of
independently
verify
like
the
headers,
because
we
do
send
back
headers
that
have
the
ipfs
hashes.
D
But
again
you
have
to
trust
that
that's
the
hash
that
you
actually
requested
and
not
something
that's
been
forged
or
intercepted
or
tampered
with
on
the
way
there.
So
there's
it's
a
very
difficult
problem
to
solve
without
some
sort
of
deep
specialization
on
the
client
side
or
some
sort
of
iframing
solution,
but
that's
still
going
to
require
your
client
to
have
the
ability
to
then
go
and
actually
double
check.
This
e
s
record
do
the
decoding,
and
then
you
know
find
that
content
hash
and
verify
it
with
what
we
sent
back.
D
There
may
be
a
way
to
do
some
of
this
with
you
know,
checksums
or
something
like
that,
but
really
not
a
100
sure
it's
I.
This
is
something
we
plan
on,
focusing
on
kind
of,
as
we
get
more
resources
and
more
time
once
the
migration
is
wrapped
up,
but
we're
definitely
interested
in
feedback
from
the
community.
This
keeps
getting
brought
up
and
it's
it
is
obviously
a
concern
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
help
ameliorate
some
of
the
the
issues
surrounding
this.
D
So
yeah,
please,
you
know,
let
us
know
if
you
have
suggestions
or
ideas,
or
this
is
something
that
you
would
be
interested
in
working
on
this
is,
you
know,
a
topic,
that's
really
near
and
dear
to
the
ethereum
foundation's
heart.
You
know
they
understand
that
you
know
these
kind
of
transitional
gateways.
Are
you
know
a
pretty
big
role
within
adoption
and
things
like
that,
and
so
they
really
want
to
take
the
time
to
number
one.
D
You
know
make
sure
they're
secure,
but
then
also
put
together
a
pattern
that
other
people
can
use
to
run
these
gateways
too,
and
so
that's
you
know
we
did
open
source
our
like
version,
one
or
really
0.1
of
this
and
we're
refactoring
all
this,
and
it
will
be
re-released
kind
of
in
a
decomposed
format.
D
So
it's
a
little
easier
to
reason
about
what
each
individual
component
within
the
stack
actually
is
responsible
for
and
how
you
would
deploy
that
yourself
and
you
know
documentation
all
that
good
stuff,
so
kind
of
the
goal
is
if
we
could
potentially
roll
in
some
sort
of
verification
that
would
get
you
know
open
sourced
as
part
of
this
project
and
and
then
hopefully
encourage
other
people
to
run
these
secure
gateways.
But
yeah.
D
To
reiterate,
we've
got
some
ideas,
but
you
know
I
think
part
of
this
is
really
going
to
be
crowdsourcing
the
expertise
of
other
people
that
you
know
may
see
an
angle
here
that
we're
not
aware
of-
and
you
know
we
would
love
to
hear
from
you.
So
thank
you
for
the
time
to
speak.
C
It's
awesome
and
yeah,
like
it's
cool
that
you're
thinking
about
that
verification
process.
Right
like
if
there's
an
ems
name
with
a
content
hash
set
to
you,
know
ipf
some
ipfs
id.
How
do
you
verify
that
when
you're
loading
a
site
that
you're
actually
getting
that
same
build?
That
is
being
pointed
to
on
the
ems
domain?
And
earlier
I
was
talking
about
how
like,
as
part
of
the
dx
deployment
process.
C
You
know
when
governance
proposals
are
being
made
to
set
the
ens
content
hash,
there's
an
ipf.
You
know
a
bill
deployed
to
ipfs
and
the
dev
teams
working
with
dxnow
take
care
to
make
sure
that
those
builds
can
be
hashed
in
like
a
reproducible
way,
and
I
was
saying
how
that
like
that,
wasn't
that
easy
at
first
actually.
But
but
you
know,
through
that
governance
process,
anybody
can
go
and
actually
look
at
the
github
see
the
code
like
pull
them.
C
You
know,
do
the
build
themselves
and
verify
that
the
ipfs
hashes
are
like
the
hashes
are
the
same.
You
could
almost
even
like
kind
of
do
that
after
the
governance
process
right
just
to
verify
like
hey.
This
is
the
code
and
like
whatever,
but
those
yeah
a
little
bit
separate
issue
from
is
what
I'm
loading
even
like
at
the
right.
Ipfs
link
there
right
so
yeah
lots
of
problems,
but
that's
awesome
that
you
guys
are
looking
at
this.
D
Yeah,
you
know
that's
interesting.
You
bring
up
hashing
the
deployments
that
you
can
do
some
verification
on
that.
You
know
just
and
I'm
just
spitballing
here
you
know.
I
wonder
if
there's
room
for
something
like
kind
of
a
new
record
standard
or
something
like
that,
for
you
know
putting
a
signature
in
for
your
content
hash.
That,
then,
could
you
know
anything?
That's
got
basically
an
rpc
client
capability.
D
Could
you
know
retrieve
that
as
well,
and
then
you
know
verify
that
as
well
as
a
you
know,
the
signature
that
comes
back
from
the
gateway
service.
You
know
that
might
be
an
easy
solution,
but
it's
not
it's
a
little
more
involved
and
cumbersome
for
development
and
then
obviously
there's
a
cost
associated
with
updating
that
record,
because
it's
not
something
that
you
know
you
can
point.
You
can
use
a
point
or
two
like
ipns
or
something.
A
Excellent.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
serial
I
did
notice
one
more
question
in
the
chat.
Just
for
any
audio
listeners
or
recording
listeners
ross
asks
a
question.
Can
we
have
sub-domain
urls
in
limo
which
sid
answer,
but
I
was
wondering
if
you
want
to
give
an
answer
to
that
as
well
or
just
kind
of
pair
it
what
it
said
in
the
chat.
D
Yeah
so
yeah,
if
you're
referring
to
you,
know
sub-domains
off
of
your
main
ens
or
even
sub
sub
domains.
We
do
support
that.
The
main
problem
is
just
with
the
tls
certificates.
D
That's
going
to
be
automated
away
very
soon,
but
right
now
it
is
manual
so
just
hop
in
our
discord.
We've
got
a
certificate,
subdomain
certificate
request,
channel
and
just
you
know,
drop
in
there,
your
your
ens
name,
whatever
you
need
to
search
for,
and
we
just
issue
a
wild
card
certificate.
D
So
that'll
cover
you
know
any
of
the
host
names
under
that
sub
domain
for
this
receivable
future,
but
moving
forward,
we
are
using
some
cool
features
on
a
reverse
proxy
that
integrates
nicely
with
let's
encrypt,
that
will
give
us
the
ability
to
do
this
stuff
on
demand,
and
so
you
won't
need
to
request
that
anymore.
You
can.
You
should,
in
theory,
be
able
to
just
go
to
whatever,
so
it's
you
know,
app.my.name.ens
or
something
whatever,
and
that
would
actually
dynamically
provision
that
certificate
for.
E
D
Right
there,
the
the
only
difference
is
that
it
wouldn't
be
a
wild
card,
but
it
would
actually
be.
You
know
a
specific
common
name
for
that
sub
domain,
but
we'll
release
more
information
about
that
when
that's
out
there
but
yeah
in
the
meantime,
it
does
work.
Just
let
us
know
what
certificates
you
need
and
I'll
get
that
provision
for
you.
The
turnaround
time
is
usually
pretty
quick
unless
it's
in
the
middle
of
the
night-
and
you
know-
I
won't
see
it
until
the
morning.
A
Yeah
excellent
well,
thank
you
again,
very
much
cereal,
very
much
so
appreciate
having
you
up
here.
I
think
we've
had
you
up
a
couple
times
in
the
past,
so
always
welcome
yeah
pleasure
thanks
guys,
yeah
thanks
again
excellent
folks.
So
let's
switch
over
to
our
next
topic
here
I
wanted
to
quickly
talk
about
dx
stats,
v
1.5.
A
I
think
we
have
venky
here
in
the
audience.
Let's
see
if
I
can
get,
you
moved
up.
E
E
The
last
dx
stats
release
was
back
in
september
and
because
yeah,
primarily
because
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
contributors
working
on
swapper.
So
now
we
have
a
bunch
of
devs
that
are
contributing
to
swapper
and
then
we
kind
of
use
dxtats
as
a
place
to
onboard
new
devs
during
their
trial
period.
E
E
But
then
the
new
release
will
significantly
reduce
the
load
time,
and
then
we
have
added
a
new
page
called
farming
where
you
will
be
able
to
see
all
details
about
different
forms
that
are
live
on
swapper,
and
then
it
tells
you
like
how
much
the
apy
is
and
if
you
put
in
like
thousand
dollars
how
much
of
usd
equivalent
that
you
will
get
as
apy
per
day,
and
then
we
have
added
a
swap
fee
next
to
each
pair
and
we
have
a
multi-chain
dashboard
where
you
could
yeah.
E
You
just
have
one
page
where
you
will
be
able
to
look
at
different,
different
stats
across
chains
for
swapper,
some,
some
like
yeah.
How
is
the
total
volume
is
like
total
tvl
across
chains?
Look
like
so
you
don't
have
to
switch
different
chains
to
look
at
how
the
growth
has
been
and
plenty
of
bug
fixes.
E
And
can
also
give
you
a
little
bit
about
what
we
are
planning
to
do
in
the
next
upcoming
releases.
Even
though
we
have
reduced
the
load
time.
Oh
the
the
initial
load
time
significantly,
we
still
want
to
get
bit
better,
so
there
will
be
more
updates
to
improve
performance
and
there
will
be
more
items
added
around
the
dashboard
or
the
analytics.
E
We
will
look
at
what's
the
utilization
of
a
certain
pool
is
we
will
be
looking
at
what
are
the
daily
active
wallets
that
are
interacting
with
swapper
monthly,
active,
wallets,
weekly
average
volume
per
transaction,
so
that
yeah
we?
When
we
look
at
dx
stats,
we
should
be
able
to
gauge
the
performance
of
swapper.
Basically,
so
we
don't
do
any,
we
don't
have
any
of
these
google
analytics
in
place.
So
the
only
thing
that
we
have
is
on
chain
analytics.
E
A
Yeah
excellent
thanks,
and
I
think
the
only
other
thing
is
that
if
I'm
correct
this
release
was
prepared
and
is
now
up
to
a
proposal.
Do
you
know
when
exactly
it
will
be
live
and
usable?
A
B
Yeah,
I'm
just
looking
at
it's
pending
boosting
now,
so
we
need
to
have
an
on-chain
transaction
to
move
it
to
that
to
the
boosted
phase
and
then
it'll
be.
B
A
Yeah
but
excellent.
Thank
you
very
much
venky
for
chatting
some
dx
stats
with
us.
A
Cool,
so
I
want
to
quickly
highlight
some
of
the
swapper
and
carrot
reward
campaigns
that
just
launched
at
the
start
of
this
call
actually
about
46
minutes
ago.
You
probably,
let's
see,
if
it'll,
let
me
copy
this
here.
A
A
Here
we
are,
this
is
the
graphic
that'll
help
you
kind
of
keep
track
will
be
on
the
socials
and
kind
of
be
highlighted
in
the
next
day
or
two
as
well,
but,
namely,
not
an
incredible
change
from
our
previous
allocations.
Last
month.
There
shouldn't
be
any
surprises
here.
We
did
go
over
this
on
the
last
community
call
as
well,
but
one
thing
to
note
is
obviously
that
there
is
still
gno
and
cow
carrots
and
campaigns
for
the
cow
with
calgano
pair.
Obviously,
some
bonus
swapper
allocation
as
well.
That's
very
exciting.
A
A
Yeah,
is
it
the
last
cal
campaigns
not
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
although
hey
chris,
are
you
familiar
with
the
the
plans.
B
Yeah
so
there
we
were
chatting
with
the
cow
team
last
week
about
making
a
plan
after
these
campaigns
and
the
we'll
have
a
call
with
them
early
next
week,
so
that
we
can
try
to
arrange
some
additional
cow
rewards
for
the
next
month.
A
Yeah
excellent,
so
not
too
much
to
add
beyond
what
we've
chatted
about
last
week
and
before.
But
if
you
are
lping
on
swap
or
staking
any
campaigns
go
switch
those
over
to
the
new
campaigns
now,
obviously
as
of
45
minutes
ago-
and
maybe
you
get
a
little
bit
more
being
early
to
switching
those
allocations,
so
go
ahead
and
do
that
the
farming
continues
says
nathan.
A
Cool
cool,
so
I
think
we
have
dave
here.
I
did
want
to
give
a
quick
recap
on
treasury
and
then
the
next
topic
will
just
be
broadly
luna
and
ust
and
then
kind
of
how
that
reflects.
You
know
how
this
stable
coin
depending
reflects
the
dxtel
treasury
and
like
what
we
can
do
to
protect
ourselves
from
it.
So
I'm
curious,
I
know
you
have
some
construction
if
you're
able
to
come
up
or
not
today,
if
so,
maybe
yeah.
F
I'm
okay,
yeah!
I
mean
I
also
need
to
drop
off
on
the
hour.
I
have
another
call
but
well
I
think
the
main
topics
are
that
luckily
dxr
has
no
exposure
to
luna
or
ust,
neither
directly
new
nor
through
yielding
protocols.
So,
of
course,
a
lot
of
yielding
protocols
even
on
ethereum
main
net
for
stable
coins,
ultimately
rely
on
the
anchor
yield.
So
the
good
news
is,
we
don't
have
any
exposure
to
that.
So
we're
not
looking
at
really
any
losses
at
all.
F
In
regards
to
that,
of
course,
the
market
overall
is
down,
and
I
think
overall,
the
excel
is
in
a
very
strong
position.
We
currently
have
over
10
million
us
dollars
in
stable
coins
in
our
treasury.
F
We
have
some
additional
stables
deployed,
lping
and
swapper,
and
our
main
stable
coins
are
actually
rye,
usdc
and
dye,
which
have
not
been
affected
at
all,
of
course,
by
any
sort
of
d-peg,
some
short
volatility,
of
course,
but
nothing
major
or
anything
of
concern.
So
I
think
overall,
you
know
talking
about
current
market
conditions
were
looking
very
good.
Of
course,
I
guess
we'll
be
having
a
large
discussion
overall
about
stables,
etc.
F
Given
the
circumstances,
but
really
nothing
to
worry
about
right
now,
I
think
in
hindsight
our
conservative
approach
to
both
stable
coin
diversification
over
the
last
year
as
well
as
is
not
to
deploy
much
capital
to
some
of
these
risky,
yielding
protocols
has
paid
off
for
now,
but
it's
still
something
we're
exploring
as
well.
Of
course,
you
can
manage
the
risk
as
well.
F
A
lot
of
these
protocols
are
leveraged
to
you,
know,
increase
yield,
and
you
know
I
think
overall,
this
is
not
at
all
affecting
gig
styles
discussion
to
yield
with
its
treasury,
but
it
also
is
kind
of
like
a
fresh
reminder
that
you
know
we
should
do
it
well.
We
should
take
our
time
and
you
know,
deploy
the
cap
and
capital.
You
know
in
a
sustainable
way.
I
think
the
the
market
shows
that
what
can
happen
otherwise
and
yeah.
I
think
john-
is
the
expert
on
the
more
lunar
ust
discussion
in
general.
Right
now,.
C
C
F
Yeah-
and
we
I
mean
we
have
a
small
amount
of
steak-
eat
as
well
right
and
those
who
are
not
aware,
there's.
Actually,
a
proposal
live
to
increase
our
stakewise
staked
eath,
as
well
as
taking
some
no
on
gnosis
chain,
so
we've
definitely
have
been
doing
some
yielding
right,
but
I
think
for
the
more
advanced
stuff
yeah.
Like
john
says,
it's
a
it's
a
working
process
here.
C
I
think
in
the
future
I
anticipate
more
trustless
infrastructure
for
dow
treasury
management
that
I
hope,
maybe
you
know
dxdap-
could
even
help
lead
the
way
on
there,
which
I
think
we've
sort
of
been
doing
in
the
background
and
hasn't
gotten
much
attention.
But
that's
another
topic,
maybe
for
another
community
call
if
we
want
to
get
to
luna
here
before
the
end.
A
A
C
Like
just
by
talking
about
what
are
different,
stable
coin
categories
and
designs,
because
I
think
you
know,
if
you're
relatively
new
to
this-
that
sort
of
is
important
framing
to
understand
and
actually
when
we
were
in
amsterdam
at,
I
think
it
was
the
d5
day
conference.
I
saw
a
talk
by
robert
one
of
the
founders
of
liquidy,
which
is
the
lusd
stable
coin
protocol,
a
very
interesting
protocol.
I
recommend
people
kind
of
checking
out.
They
do
some
really
cool
technical
stuff.
C
I've
been
maintaining
just
fine,
and
he
presented
like
this
categorization
that
I
I
thought
was
pretty
good
and
he
had
four
categories
right.
So
there's
I
think
everybody's
familiar
with
the
fiat
backstable
coins.
You
have
uscc
usdt,
you
know
at
least
allegedly,
are
backed
by
you
know,
essentially
dollar
or
equivalent
assets,
one
to
one
right
and
there's
some
kind
of
redemption
mechanism
there.
C
That,
like
allows
that
peg
to
stay
solid,
then
you
have
collateralized
decentralized,
stable
coins
and
he
actually
breaks
this
into
two
categories
which
I
hadn't
seen
before
right,
like
I
just
kind
of
like
that,
like
oh,
you
have
collateralized
stable
coins
and
he
actually
breaks
it
into
exogenous
and
endogenous
collateral
right.
So
you
have
maker
dao,
which
would
be
probably
the
prime
example
of
a
collateralized,
decentralized,
stable
coin
that
uses
exogenous
capital
right,
so
they
started
with
just
eat.
They've
diversified
into
other
things,
but
basically
you
have
the
the
maker
system.
C
Has
you
know
highest
stable
coin.
Mkr
is
like
the
governance
native
token,
and
the
collateral
is
coming
from
outside
of
that
system.
Right,
eth,
whatever
and
liquidy
actually
is
another
example
of
this.
And
then,
when
you
talk
about
the
endogenously
collateralized
ones,
that's
actually,
where
you
know
you
start,
you
see,
luna
right,
so
endogenous
would
be
like.
For
example,
if
you
take
the
maker
analogy,
it
would
be
like
if
you
are
using
mkr
to
back
collateralize
the
stable
coin,
and
so
the
way
the
luna
terra
ecosystem
works.
C
It's
great
like
luna
is,
is
burned
to
mid
ust
and
years.
T
can
be
burned
to
go
back
into
luna
right
but,
like
luna
is
made
the
native
currency
of
the
terra,
blockchain
turret
ecosystem
and
therefore
like
this
is
an
endogenously,
collateralized,
stable
coin
right
and
then
so.
The
fourth
category
would
be
algorithmic,
and
he
liked
to
just
describe
these
as
like
purely
algorithmic.
So
there's
literally
no
collateral
right,
you're,
just
putting
out
something
and
you're
trying
to
maintain
the
peg
just
through
an
algorithm
right.
C
So
we,
I
think,
generally
have
seen
algo
tables
have
not
worked
like
I
like
this
fun
little
ditty
by
ben
jones,
here,
one
of
the
founders
of
optimism
and
yeah
so
yeah
to
talk
more
about
luna.
So
this
has
been
like
something.
That's
been
criticized
like
for
a
while
right
that
the
fact
that
you
had
this
endogenously
collateralized
some
people
called
it
algorithmic
stablecoin.
C
Is
when
they
were
doing
a
lot
of
like
incentives
right
to
like
lure,
like
basically
everybody
retail,
whoever
into
like
anchor
protocol
getting
20
yields
when
you
know
yields
across
the
board
were
kind
of
following
like
falling,
and
I
think
that
is
sort
of
like
what
was
pretty
irresponsible
about
this
and
it's
very
divisive
but
obviously
a
little
crazy,
because
you
have
a
lot
of
very
like
name
brand
reputable
vc
funds
that
were
backpacking
and
are
kind
of
like
caught
up
in
this
yeah.
C
People
are
even
talking
about
now
how
maybe
there's
like
celsius
or
some
of
these
yield
projects
are
like,
maybe
going
to
be
affected,
or,
oh
god
forbid,
even
like
go
bankrupt
over
something
like
this.
But
yeah.
I
mean
a
lot
of
capital,
a
lot
of
people,
a
lot
of
the
space
like
kind
of
caught
up
in
this,
and
it
looks
pretty
bad
to
see
what
is
unfolding
now
right
and
so
yeah.
So
like
what
is
going
on
exactly
and
like.
Why,
like
so
like
you
know,
I
was
actually
talking
to.
C
I
was
like
ash
egan
from
archetype
at
conference
last
weekend,
and
I
was
like
saying
like.
Oh,
this
is
bad,
like
there's
so
much
risk
in
the
system
right
now,
because
you
had.
I
think
it
was
something
like
18
billion
dollars
of
18
billion
ust
right
and
like
what
was
backing
that
and
I
think
that
morning
it
was
like
saturday
morning
you
luna
had
kind
of
fallen
a
bit.
I
think
market
maybe
was
down
overall,
and
you
know,
especially
following
the
stock
market
going
down.
C
C
If
people
started
selling
luna
like
there's
no
way
that
market
cap
was
going
to
hold
up,
they
had
recently
sort
of
capitulated
a
bit
on
this
idea
of
indulgence,
capital
and
like
brought
in
bitcoin
right.
So
there
was
a
few
billion
dollars
of
bitcoin
in
the
luna
foundation.
That
was
actually
this
like
exogenous
collateral
that
they
could
use
to
buy
ust.
But
I
mean,
if
you
look,
it
was
like
okay,
you
have
three
billion
of
that,
but
does
that
really
still
support
like
18
billion
of
usd?
I
think
it's.
C
That
was
questionable,
and
I
mean
beyond
that
like
what's?
Actually
it's
just,
I
guess
the
psychological
aspect.
A
lot
of
people
were
talking
about.
You
know
jump
capital,
these
billionaire
funds
or
whatever
are
gonna
come
in
they're
gonna
like
they'll,
maintain
the
peg
they'll
defend
the
peg.
We
don't
have
to
worry
about
this
right
or
just
like
people's
just
general
faith,
not
being
shaken,
but
so
I
mean
what
we
saw
play
out
right
is
the
peg
started
to
break
people
started
to
sell
ust.
C
You
know
luna
market
cap
continued
to
go
down
like
they
deployed
the
bitcoin
that
got
used
upright
and
we're.
Seeing,
I
think
now
is
yeah
like
luna
is
what
backstops
usd
and
as
ust
moves
for
the
exit
luna
gets
right
inside
I
was
looking.
I
don't
have
hearts
up
in
front
of
me
right
now,
but
I
think
the
luna
liquidity
is
all
but
like
dead
this
morning.
Right,
like
I
think
it's
I've
been
used
up
and
so
kind
of
interesting
to
see.
C
You
know
ust
actually
trading
as
high
as
I
think
he
was
up
at
like
70
something
cents
last
night
for
me,
which
I
mean
I
think
some
people
on
twitter
and
stuff
have
been
calling
out
saying
like
why,
like
what?
How
do
people
have
faith
in
this
like
when
you
have
18?
You
know,
I
think
it
was
down
to
like
14
billion
or
whatever
and
like
what
where's
the
exit
right
like?
What's
the
window
there,
it's
like
a
diminishing
luna
market
cap.
C
Basically,
ust
is
going
to
have
to
take
like
a
big
hit
right
for
this
to
work
out
at
all
or
just
the
whole
thing
just
collapses
and
dies
right
and
everything
like
trading
ceases
and
liquidity
is
just
gone
right.
I
think
I
think
we're
at
this
point
where
it
either
just
like
completely
collapses
and
is
done
or
maybe
you
see
like
ust
actually
like
bleed
out
and
people
sell
it
and
maybe
there's
some
vcs
or
something
that
come
in
and
actually
can
like
salvage
it.
C
B
B
Maybe
just
add
one
thing
in
terms
of
the
buy
pressure
on
ust
right.
That's
the
question
like
you
said
it
was
like
60
cents
or
70
cents
like
last
night
like
who
is
buying
ust
buying
into
this
system,
and
it
is
less
people
buying
they're
not
buying
usd
to
hold
it
they're
buying
ust
to
try
to
turn
it
into
a
dollar
worth
of
luna
and
then
sell
that
luna,
because
the
way
that
luna
works
is
you,
can
you
can
buy,
ust
burn
it
and
you
will
get
a
dollar
of
luna
at
that
point.
B
And
so
then
you
can
take
that
luna
and
I
don't
know
if
you
find
a
greater
fool
and
try
to
sell
to
someone
else,
and
so
that's
why
people
are
buying
ust.
But
then
the
question
is
who
and
why
is
there
still
a
market
for
people
buying
luna?
Because
that
doesn't
you
know
what
what
is
the
what's
propping
up
that
and
you
know,
I
think
it's
yeah.
E
B
As
quick
as
possible
right
because
then
the
price
gonna
go
down
again,
so
it's
like
you
want
to
burn
ust,
get
luna
dump
as
quick
as
possible
and
that's
why
you're,
seeing
that
this
massive
yeah
fall
and
then,
of
course,
on
the
other
side.
That's
why
there's
more
luna
being
printed,
because
every
time
you
burn
one
dollar
versus
a
ust
and
yeah,
that's
the
other
one.
That
connor
has
a
good
point
is
if
you
were
shorting
luna
right.
B
The
way
you
short
is
you
borrow
against
it
and
you
still
have
to
close
your
shorts.
So
you
you
start
to
close
your
shorts.
You
start
to
acquire
the
luna
to
pay
off
your
your
short
position
so
that
you
can
kind
of
take
profit
from
that.
So
I
think
that's
one.
I
don't
really
know
yeah
if
there's
like,
I
don't
think
anyone
there
might
be
believers.
C
And
so
that
arbitrate
has
been
going
on
this
this
whole
week,
right
like
the
ust
to
luna,
but
yeah,
like
you
said
it
depends
on
people
buying
luna,
and
that
looks
like
it's
on
its
last
legs
now
like
the
liquidity
is,
is
properly
drying.
Up,
though
I
mean
it's
a
real
sad
situation
overall,
like
a
lot
of
people,
I
think
like
treating
seeing
ust
as
a
stable
coin,
as,
like
a
you
know,
a
store
of
value
that
they
were
getting
yield
on
and
getting
completely
wrecked.
C
On
that,
like
it's,
really
it's
bad
and
like
this
is
it
kind
of
looks
bad
for
crypto?
I
think
overall,
and
I
think
it's
I
have
some
fallout-
that
we
haven't
really
even
like
fully
realized
yet.
A
Yeah,
coming
on
a
little
over
the
top
of
the
hour,
I
want
to
wrap
up
here,
but
I
am
curious,
as
your
thought
points
about
regulation
and
how
or
if
this
will
kind
of
accelerate
that
process,
namely
you,
john
and
chris,
being
in
the
united
states
of
america,.
C
I
mean
it's
hard
to
say
I
don't
know
I
mean,
but
I
think
there's
definitely
politicians
and
regulators
that
are
going
to
use
this
right
as
an
example
and
are
going
to
like
play.
You
know,
use
it
to
play
into
their
narratives
and
yeah.
It
doesn't
work
in
crypto's
favor
on
the
regulatory
front.
That's
for
sure.
B
I
do
think
the
stable
coins
have
been
already
been
a
major
topic
of
discussion.
I
guess
against
regulators,
there
really
hasn't
been
anything
that's
put
out,
but
you
know
I
think,
stable
coins
have
always
been
this
really
unstoppable
force.
That's
going
to
like
mandate
that
there's
some
type
of
legislation
or
additional
regulatory
approach
from
the
us
government
to
stable
coins-
and
I
think
that's
been
building
over
the
last
year,
regardless
of
how
this
has
happened
here.
B
But
what
this
is
doing
is
it's
going
to
then
like
just
set
a
whole
new
context
for
how
that
discussion
about
you
know
regulating
usdc
usdt
and
what
what
are
the
other
kind
of
stable
points
out
there?
This
will
just
be
a
whole
new
context
around
that
that
discussion,
that
is
yeah,
I
think
gonna-
probably
occur
in
the
next
in
the
next
year
here.
B
But
it's
your
you
know.
The
newest
political
system
is
yeah,
that's
a
whole
other
a
whole
other
ball
game
too.
If
you
want
to
look
at
something
that
is,
you
can
also
do
scroll
on
so
it'll
be
difficult
to
predict
how
that
will
play
out
there
lots
of
possibilities,
but
it
just
does
seem
like
it's
building
to
a
point
where
it's
it's
gonna.
It's
gonna
get
the
attention
and
draw
some
some
additional
regulatory
action.
A
Just
kicking
in
the
moving
to
the
outro
music,
any
kind
of
final
thoughts
here
on
stables,
pegging,
etc.
B
Defending
a
peg
is
very
hard.
It's
incredibly
yeah.
You
can
just
blow
through
a
lot
of
things
and
it
all
if
you're
going
to
be
a
stable
coin.
That's
the
whole
ball
game
in
the
end,
if
you
can't
really
maintain
the
peg
in
these
times,
then
you
know
not
a
stable
coin
and
yeah
that
should
be
kind
of
a
top
of
mind.
Everyone,
that's
using
stable
coins,
holding
stable
coins
or
trying
to
build
something
that
uses
them.
That
really
the
point
of
these
is
to
operate
in
these
times
of
crazy
market
volatility.
C
A
Yeah
awesome.
Thank
you
very
much,
gentlemen.
I
do
have
a
couple
of
things
to
call
attention
to
here.
At
the
end
of
the
call,
first
and
foremost,
the
carrot
awareness
campaign,
there's
a
good
recap
put
up
by
skye
in
the
forum.
We
did
chat
a
bit
about
it.
Last
week
the
care
awareness
campaign
was
a
care
campaign
for
anyone
in
eat
amsterdam
to
call
attention
to
the
dx
now
socials.
A
So
if
you
want
a
good
recap
of
that
initiative,
how
it
went
kind
of
the
learnings
highly
recommend
that
farm
thread,
which
is
now
in
the
chat
also
we
chat
about
this
last
week
as
well.
Ox
friends
is
a
bot
that
we
implemented
here
on
discord.
You
can
find
the
channel
here
I'll
put
another
link
in
the
chat,
the
discord
channel
link,
it's
a
channel
and
a
bot
that
will
kind
of
hook
you
up
with
other
people
that
share
similar
interests
to
you.
A
You
know
hold
similar
tokens
similar
nfts,
similar
discord
communities.
So
it's
a
fun
and
interesting
way
to
kind
of
connect
with
people
from
both
this
server
and
outside
so
highly
recommend
giving
that
a
shot
experimenting.
A
Having
some
fun
with
us
there
in
the
make
friends
channel
and
last
but
not
least,
the
april
month
in
review
of
course,
came
out
late
last
week,
as
always
highly
recommend,
taking
a
look
through
lots
of
amsterdam
stuff
super
exciting
to
read
through
and
kind
of
keep
up
with,
the
ecstatic
so
would
recommend
taking
a
look
there
as
well
yeah
excellent
that'll.
Do
it
for
me.
Thank
you
very
much.
Everyone
for
attending
this
week,
we'll
see
you
next
week
same
time
same
place,
ciao.
Thank
you
very
much.