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A
A
Last
week
today,
we'll
be
running
through
an
extension
to
the
dxd
buyback
program,
an
update
to
our
swapper
emissions,
the
initiative,
dow
idea
and
a
lot
more
if
you
haven't
seen
yet,
we
announced
the
carat
alpha
last
week,
our
latest
product,
if
carrots
new
to
you
we'll,
be
doing
a
quick
review
today,
as
well
as
a
quick
chat
about
a
carrot,
ama
slotted
for
next
week,
but
more
on
that
in
a
bit.
Let's
get
started
right
away
here.
First
up
we
have
some
recap,
starting
with
dxbiz
sky.
B
Sure
a
lot
of
different
topics
in
in
the
dx
biz
space
we
actually
had
b
protocol
and
liquidity
liquidity,
which
be
protocol,
runs
on
top
of
liquidity,
join
the
the
dx
biz
column
present.
B
It's
an
interesting
additional
way
to
earn
yield
like
on
your
eth
in
a
in
a
in
a
stable
coin
based
protocol,
and
so
they
present
it
on
like
kind
of
an
opt.
It's
like
part
of
optimizing,
your
treasury
management,
and
so
that's
something
that
dx
style
is
considering
a
couple.
Other
key
like
like
immediate
things
are
there's
also,
obviously
the
x
die
gnosis
proposed
merger,
which
is
happening.
The
snapshots
are
live,
there's
already
a
bunch
of
voting
on
it
and
it's
looking
like
it.
B
It
most
likely
will
pass
from
both
communities
to
ex-die
and
and
gnosis
communities.
As
part
of
that,
the
current
x
die
community,
which
includes
dx,
dow
and
all
the
p.
All
the
projects
and
teams
that
have
been
building
like
for
on
xdi
for
quite
a
while
now
formed
a
a
xdi
community
dao,
which
basically
is
a
group.
B
Currently,
a
multi-sig
could
be
a
dao
to
represent
that,
like
existing
community
in
this
new
world,
that
will
this
new
chain
world
which
looks
likely
to
happen,
and
so
that
can
include
things
like
representing
the
people,
but
also
as
a
voice,
but
also
a
place
where
it
could
receive
specifically
gno
rewards,
which
are
being
going
to
be
dedicated
to
this
new
ecosystem,
to
make
sure
that
that
a
decent
amount
of
the
incentives
get
into
the
the
hands
of
the
projects
and
that
are
that
have
been
building
on
xdi,
basically
and
don't
just
get
forgotten
about.
B
So
that's
a
really
interesting,
like
community,
driven
from
the
ground
up
like
lots
of
lots
of
projects
in
the
xdi
space
like
working
together
now
to
like,
represent
themselves
in
in
what
could
be
a
new
world.
There's
also
a
couple
interesting
dx
ventures,
opportunities
and
actually
a
third
one
which
we've
just
started
talking
about.
Where
one
is
like
d,
it
could
be
dx,
dao's,
first
venture
into
the
metaverse,
through
a
investment
grant
into
atlantis
world,
which
is
a
2d
metaverse
and
it
with
a
with
a
investment
there.
B
The
dick
style
would
basically
establish
a
presence
and
could
start
embedding
its
products
and
its
dow
and
its
dow,
tooling
and
stuff
into
that
ecosystem,
which
would
be
great
for
awareness
of
dxdow
there's
a
lot
of
really
interesting
projects
that
are
also
mainly
from
the
d5
space
that
are
also
attached
to
atlantis
world.
So
it's
a
and
it's
a
really
interesting,
like
smart
team,
that's
that's
building
it
separate.
B
Secondly,
there's
double,
which
is
a
a
unique
defy
protocol
based
on,
which
is
an
opportunity
that
seems
to
be
supported
in
the
community
that
solves
like
kind
of
a
go
in
between
between
something
like
aqua
and
swapper,
where
it's
it's
a
tool
to
help
projects
and
people
that
don't
have
both
sides
of
liquidity,
get
the
other
side
of
liquidity
to
provide
capital
into
a
pool,
and
then
yeah
we're
going
to
talk
about
carrot
later,
but
in
in
then
the
latest.
B
The
last
thing
I'll
touch
on
is
there's
also
some
talk
about
the
idea
of
creating
an
initiative
dao,
which
we,
I
think
everyone
kind
of.
This
is
like
kind
of
a
sub
dow
internal
doubt,
and
it's
a
doubt
to
like
have
a
fun
set
aside
that
any
like.
B
Hopefully,
anyone
in
the
community
with
good
ideas
with
like
smaller
amounts,
could
like
take
action
very
quickly
to
try
those
ideas
easily
get
the
funds
from
this
initiative
dao
and
then
like
may,
and
then
try
some
experiment
that
will
somehow
benefit
dx
dow
in
some
way
and
that
can
be
marketing
that
could
be
development.
That
could
be
a
bounty
that
could
be.
You
know,
a
game
that
could
be
really
anything
so
creating
that
system
and
I
think,
there's
a
few
different
ways
to
think
about.
B
There
are
a
few
different
ways
to
implement
something
like
that,
but
I'm
not.
If
we're
not
going
to
agree
on
exactly
how
to
do
it.
We
kind
of
just
want
to
probably
move
forward,
so
we
might
do
a
proposal
to
like
get
a
certain
amount
of
funds
say
you
know.
Seven
thousand
dollars
like
out
of
the
dow
into
a
you
know
either
a
sub
dow
or
a
multi
sig
that
could
take
actions
quickly
and
then
leave
it
up
to
like
a
delegated
team
to
kind
of
figure
out
the
details
of.
B
Should
this
go
to
people
only
with
rep
at
first
or
should
it
go
to
anyone
with
a
good
idea
from
the
community?
We
just
want
to
have
some
things
in
place
so
that
people
don't
take
the
money
and
go
away
and
do
nothing,
but
we
want
to
be
able
to
like
get
that
money
out
quickly
to
people
that
can
try
new
ideas
that
could
that
could
help
benefit
dx
style,
and
so
I
think
we
should
get
to
a
chain
proposal
for
that
with
some
guidelines.
That
would
move
the
money.
B
Hopefully
this
week,
yeah
and
then
and
then
we
could
try
to
start
experimenting
with
that
as
well.
So
that's
kind
of
a
recap
of
a
few
of
the
different
things
happening
in
that
world
yeah.
A
Excellent,
thank
you
very
much
skye
for
our
second
recap
today
will
be
a
little
bit
different
than
we've
traditionally
done.
Our
recap
so
we'll
be
kind
of
recapping
the
launch
of
carrot,
what
it
is
how
it
works.
I
know
not
everyone
attends
every
single
call,
so
just
a
quick
call
of
attention,
I'm
not
sure
sky.
If
that's
also,
you.
B
C
Happy
too,
though,
I
was
not
on
the
call
last
week
with
the
thanksgiving
holiday,
so
I
have
no
idea
how
you
presented
it
last
week
and
I
haven't
watched
the
call
yet
but
yeah
and
last
week
did
march.
I
think
it
was
actually
on
thanksgiving
was
when
first
distribution
of
carrot
tokens
kicked
off
with
the
latest
swapper
epoch.
C
So
this
is
sort
of
it's
an
alpha.
It's
the
first
launch
of
carrot,
which
I
think
of
as
programmable
incentives
right.
So
it's
a
way
for
projects
teams,
individuals
to
add
conditions
on
the
incentives
they
are
providing,
which
will
give
them
more
control,
hopefully
give
them
better
value
for
their
incentive
capital
that
they're
spending
right.
So
the
first
couple
campaigns
here
are
demonstrating
two
types
of
campaigns
that
carrot
supports.
One
is
a
binary
like
a
yes
or
no
outcome
and
the
other
is
a
scalar
which
provides
a
range
of
possible
outcomes.
C
So
the
basic
way
it
works.
Is
you
lock
up
collateral
and
carrot?
That
is
the
ultimate
reward:
token
that
mints
what
we
call
carrot,
tokens
the
actual
incentive
and
I'm
sorry
I
was
just
checking
the
chat,
and
so
once
you
have
that
incentive
token.
The
project
then
can
give
that
out
right
and
you
could
do
it
in
different
ways.
The
way
dx
style
is
doing.
It
is
through
swapper
farming
campaigns
because
they're
diy
farming
in
swapper.
This
is
actually
available
to
any
other
projects
too.
C
Although
I
don't
know
if
it
currently
supports
the
multiple
rewards
in
the
ui,
but
it's
that
it's
definitely
possible
at
the
smart
contract
level
and
yeah.
So
once
yeah
so
there's
a
ways
you
can
give
them
out.
Ultimately,
it
comes
down
to
the
condition
whether
they
can
be
redeemed
for
the
collateral.
So
the
two,
the
the
scalar
option,
is
tied
to
the
tvl
of
the
dxdf
pool
on
xdi,
and
I
forget
the
exact
range.
I
think
it's
something
like
800k
to
1.5
million.
C
I
could
be
wrong
on
that,
but
if
it
hits
800k
that's
when
it
starts
to
pay
out
right
anything
below
that
the
carat
tokens
are
worthless.
If
you,
if
the
tvl
gets
to
1.5
million
and
then
a
full
collateral
is
paid
out
and
they're
worth
the
maximum
amount,
so
the
cara
tokens
are
basically
providing
up
to
a
certain
apy
when
they're
minted
out.
C
I
don't
know
if
we've
seen
it
yet,
but
I
also
imagine
that
you
could
have
secondary
market
trading
of
carrots
if
people
want
to
sell
them
before
the
maturity
of
that
token
right,
so
they
only
pay
out
after
the
end
date.
It's
an
average
tvl
over
december.
So
these
tokens
will
pay
out
until
january,
and
but
I
could
imagine
some
people
selling
them
ahead
of
time
for
the
discount
and
then
the
binary
one
is
tied
to
the
price
of
swapper
and
it's
incentivizing
also
the
swapper
textile
error.
C
C
So
it's
a
way
to
kind
of
yeah
make
that
incentive
for
the
tvl
conditional
on
the
actual
price,
maybe
deter
some
dumping
or
you
know
make
sure
that
the
community,
the
swapper
community,
is
getting
the
results
it
wants
around
the
price,
so
yeah
very
exciting.
I
think
there's
tons
of
possibilities
for
carrot-
maybe
tvl
and
price-
is
kind
of
the
obvious
ones,
but
you
could
imagine
it
being
work
used
to
incentivize
contributions.
C
C
A
Yeah
that
was
perfect.
Thank
you,
john
one
thing
worth
mentioning,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
did,
but
although
the
distribution
started
on
thanksgiving
last
week
last
thursday,
the
actual
date
range
for
the
conditions
is
from
december
1st
to
the
31st.
A
So
as
of
yesterday-
and
you
can
now
see
this
in
the
campaigns,
carrick
is
actively
parsing
data
through
swapper.
So
you
can
see
on
the
tvl
campaign.
You
can
see
the
average
tvl
for
december
1st
and
2nd
already
and
same
thing
for
the
the
price
campaign.
You
can
see
the
price
in
the
ui
so
obviously
take
a
look
at
that
as
well.
It's
a
cool
thing
to
follow
if
you
are
participating.
A
Cool,
I
don't
have
any
questions
lined
up
for
the
recap
section.
So,
let's
move
on
here
to
our
next
portion,
talking
about
the
dxd,
buyback
extension
and
ease
staking
recap:
do
we
have
dave
around.
D
I
think
the
community
is
also
very
much
looking
forward
to
hearing
chris's
voice,
who
was
at
thanksgiving
last
week,
but
I'm
also
happy
to
give
a
brief
update.
So
I
mean
we
ran
over
the
buyback
last
week
as
well
on
the
community
call,
and
the
one
thing
that
changed
in
the
meantime
is
that
we
already
have
an
extension
proposal
up
on
the
forum.
D
So
we
just
can
just
keep
submitting
the
buybacks
at
a
a
good
pace
and
that's
pretty
much
all
there
is
on
the
new
buyback
proposal.
The
rest
is
all
the
same,
using
our
more
recent
approach
where
we
just
submit
multi
calls
then,
given
that
the
funds
will
already
be
in
the
gpv
one
relayer
and
the
other
topic
is
the
staking
of.
If
so,
this
proposal
has
been
live
on
the
forum
for
a
couple
of
weeks.
D
I
believe,
and
the
proposals
were
submitted
on
chain
yesterday,
so
I
would
say
this
is
kind
of
like
dipping
our
toes
in
the
water,
with
a
thousand
ether
being
staked
among
three
different
platforms,
which
is
lydle,
steakwise
and
arif
the
rocket
pool
eat.
I
believe
it
is,
and
yeah
very
excited
about
taking
that
step
with
the
treasury.
D
Even
if
it's
not
you
know,
I
don't
think
it's
our
final
process,
but
it's
kind
of
like
our
first
tangible
move
towards
yielding
on
some
of
our
assets,
especially
ethereum,
where
we
still
maintain
the
exposure
to
ethereum,
which
is
something
I
know.
A
lot
of.
The
contributors
in
community
in
general
is
very
keen
on
so
definitely
very
excited
for
that
and,
as
I
said,
the
proposals
are
live
so
expecting
them
to
pass
next
week
and
that's
pretty
much
it
for
my
side.
A
Excellent,
I
actually
don't
have
a
question
for
you
guys.
I
do
have
a
comment,
though
it
just
says
thank
you
for
the
consistent
updates
on
the
sheet
and
calls
so
hopefully
that
makes
you
smile
today,
but
nothing
else.
There
open
any
questions
that
we
can
answer,
but
we'll
move
on
here
to
the
swapper
emissions
for
epoch,
7
and
5..
A
Cool
so
yeah
epoch,
five
and
seven
five
for
maintenance.
Of
course,
seven
for
arbitrarium,
we'll
start
with
mainnet.
There
was
very
minor
changes
to
mainnet.
If
you
did
one
to
four
were
deployed
on
mainnet
at
the
same
time
to
keep
things
linear
to
remove
gas
fees
etc,
and
the
same
thing
has
happened
again
here:
we've
deployed
or
will
be
deploying
rather
epochs,
five
to
eight
together
and
that's
the
same
pair
swapper
against
e
dxd
against
eat
and
die
against
eath,
which
you
can
see
visually
here.
A
Very
minor
changes,
as
I
mentioned,
a
slight
increase
to
dxd
in
a
slight
addition.
I'm
sorry
subtraction
to
die
against
eth,
nothing
too,
of
the
ordinary
just
minor
tuning
when
weighing
the
performance
of
the
first
four
epochs
for
x-style
once
again,
nothing
incredibly
out
of
the
ordinary
some
minor
additions
and
changes.
We
did
add
curve
against
x-die
as
a
pool
to
test
out
those
considering
some
community
feedback
and
suggestions,
but
again
nothing
incredibly
out
of
the
ordinary.
There
may
be
something
exciting
about
steak.
A
A
I
just
do
a
couple
buyback
questions,
we'll
just
finish:
the
the
swapper
changes
and
we'll
head
back
to
the
buyback
for
a
minute,
and
the
last
thing
is
again
on
arbitrom,
very,
very
minor
changes,
a
slight
reduction
to
the
link
against
east
pool
and
a
slight
addition
to
the
unallocated
fund,
but
the
bigger
change.
This
epoch
is,
more
importantly,
the
reason
there's
a
slight
addition
to
an
allocated
with
the
holidays.
Coming
up
there'll
be
a
slight
change
in
cadence
for
the
epochs,
particularly
on
arbitrarium.
A
Epoch
7
will
be
deployed
as
a
single
epoch
on
arbitrarium
for
a
majority
of
pairs,
whereas
the
pairs
that
we're
happy
with
the
performance
of
that
we've
already
deployed
in
batches
of
two
previous
to
this
they'll
be
deployed
in
threes.
So
you
can
expect
swapper
against
ucce
wrap,
bitcoin
dxd
curve,
as
well
as
the
iv
btc
and
badger
pools
to
have
their
epochs
extended
to
three
on
arbitrarum
reason.
Being
for
this
is
not
this
epoch,
but
next
epoch
the
following
will
actually
run
through
the
holidays.
A
It'll,
be
a
little
bit
more
difficult
to
coordinate
to
get
this
all
through
governance.
And,
additionally,
you
know
we
don't
want
to
be
taking
people
away
from
their
families
over
the
holidays.
So
we
thought
that
having
a
single
epoch
extension
over
that
period
of
time
would
make
a
lot
of
sense.
A
A
You
can
see
this
a
bit
more
visually
a
formal
announcement,
but
expect
a
little
bit
less
staking
and
unstaking
an
arbitrary
and
potentially
excite
over
the
holiday
season.
A
And
I
think
that's
all
for
me.
I
do
have
a
couple
questions.
I'm
not
sure
I
have
the
answer
to
we
have
what's
the
single-sided
staking
status,
I
know.
There's
a
proposal
live,
I
believe,
is
passing
in
favor,
I'm
not
completely
up
to
date
on
that,
though,
I'm
not
sure
is
that
maybe.
F
Yeah
we
we
are
aiming
to.
We
have
a
date
internal
date
where
we
are
working
towards.
So
next
week
is:
oh,
I
just
set
the
date
so
now
it
not
happen,
but
we
try
to
aim
to
to
release
it
next
week.
F
F
If
I
can
say
so,
and
that's
yeah
you
will
you
will
hear
about
it
more
next
week.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
that
so,
if
I'm
correct
I'm
just
looking
at
the
snap,
the
proposal
is
over
and
it
has
passed
in
favor.
That's
correct!.
F
So
this
is
the
singular
proposal
that
didn't
count
it
staked
swapper
right.
F
So
we
were
thinking
about
doing
another
one
to
just
get
all
the
all
the
voices,
because
most
people
actually
are
lping
swapper
or
having
it
somewhere
else.
So
I
think
it's
it's
fair
to
do
another
one,
but
yeah.
We
need
to
run
run
that
through
to
the
community.
Again,
I
think
we
had
one
big
swapper
whale
that
voted.
No
and
obviously
we
want
to
hear
why
you
know
and
and
and
see
if
we
could
listen
into
what
the
community
wants
to
do.
A
That's
actually
the
other
question
left
with
me
is:
why
did
the
largest
holder
vote
against
single-sided
staking?
I
don't
know
if
that's
accurate
or
not
being
the
largest
holder
but
very
interesting
question.
I
don't
believe
we
have
the
answer
to.
I
think
we're
patiently
awaiting
this
community
member
to
reach
out
on
why
they're
against
this
vote,
particularly
so
we
can
help
kind
of
craft
that
forward.
F
I
mean
I
would
like
to
hear
from
anyone
why
they
think
no
would
be
an
answer
and
how
we
could
work.
C
F
F
If
you,
if
you're
bullish
on
swapper,
you
don't
want
more
swapper
to
be
released
yeah,
so
we
basically
also
have,
in
the
end
of
this
year
or
yeah
in
30
days,
whoever
that
didn't
claim
air
airdrop,
that
swapper
will
be
sent
back
to
the
to
the
treasury
and
and
so
that's
even
more
swap
that
hasn't
been
released
to
to
their
yeah
to
the
community.
F
A
Potentially,
it
is
worth
noting
that
in
the
ramp
up
period
is
a
very
small
comparative
to
the
the
swapper
ether
missions.
Of
course,
a
small
portion
of
swapper
obviously
less
il.
So
if
you're
bullish
on
swapper
you'd
want
to
enter
that
pool,
but
definitely
a
consideration,
especially
if
the
amount
of
swapper
emitted
from
it
were
to
ramp
up.
C
C
Two,
it's
a
seven
day,
wait
time
to
exit
unless
it's
an
asset
that
you
can
bridge
over
one
of
the
bridging
services
so,
like
I
think,
eth
and
stable
coins
like
the
the
bigger
stable
coins
like
ustc
and
dye,
you
can
actually
move
from
extended
arbitrarily
over
bridges
like
hop
or
or
others,
but
I
don't
think
this
is
available
for
assets
like
swapper
and
txt.
Yet,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
is:
is
there
anything?
People
should
be
thinking
ahead
on
in
terms
of
these
upcoming
incentives
on
on
next
high.
A
Right
yeah,
like
I
mentioned
we,
we
did
have
a
a
proposal
passed
through
governance,
state
governance
we
were
delegated.
A
I
believe
200
000
worth
of
stake,
rewards
to
be
admitted
over
the
next
eight
weeks,
but
we
are
yet
to
choose
a
start
date,
just
kind
of
confirming
that
internally
there
I
mean,
obviously,
if
it
were
to
start
in
this
coming
epoch.
That
would
be
seven
days
from
now.
So,
if
you'd
like
to
get
in
on
steak
admissions
and
believe
that
those
will
come
out
this
coming
thursday,
you
should
probably
start
bridging
over
any
assets
that
you
would
like.
Move
to.
X-Die,
obviously
arbitrarily,
as
I
mentioned,
has
a
seven-day
wait
period.
A
So
if
you're
looking
for
a
dxd
or
swapper,
particularly
probably
a
good
opportunity,
there
obviously
no
comment
until
there's
anything
confirmed,
of
course,
and
not
saying
yes
or
no
here
too
it's
starting
next
week,
but
if
it
were
not
to,
we
could
safely
expect
rewards
to
start
on
the
23rd
of
december.
I
would
say,
I'm
not
sure.
Obviously,
we
still
need
to
run
through
this
and
I'd
expect
a
formal
answer
this
coming
monday,
but
I'm
not
sure
there's
anything
more.
I
can
offer
beyond
that
now.
C
A
Yes,
that's
correct
we're
thinking
of
in
the
event
that
we
won't
deploy
on
all
of
our
pairs
at
least
incentivizing.
The
stake
pair,
potentially
some
others
as
well,
but
I
think
steak
is
the
primary
focus.
So
if
you
have
steak,
I
I
doubt
that
there's
much
steak
on
arbitrarium,
but
if
you
wanted
to
move
steak
to
to
exti,
I
would
suggest
doing
so
now.
C
A
E
So
if
people
are
interested
in
participating
in
those
they
could,
they
could
send
the
funds
now
and
it
would
arrive
in
time
for
when
those
proposals
pass
next
thursday
expected
to
pass
next
thursday.
C
Yeah
great
point
and
probably
goes
without
saying,
but
of
course
gas
costs
are
significant
on
main
net
and
that's
why
the
the
campaign
periods
are
longer
on
mainnet,
but
still,
if
you're,
you
know
certain,
you
basically
need
a
certain
size
of
investment
or
funds
for
it
to
be
worth.
The
gas
costs.
E
Just
to
reiterate,
actually
for
because,
as
keenan
mentioned
the
beginning,
there
was
a
small
increase
to
the
dxd
weft
pair
allocation
for
the
main
net
rewards.
So
that
should
be
that's
like
kind
of
an
added
incentive
for
any
of
the
dxd
wef
liquidity
providers
on
arbor
trump
that
there
actually
are
a
little
bit
more
rewards
going
to
maine
at
this
this
epoch
or
for
the
next
four
epochs.
A
Perfect,
thank
you
very
much
guys
just
taking
a
look
here
to
the
buyback
discussion.
I
missed
anything
in
particular
to
chat
about
here.
Maybe
chris
is
caught
up.
E
Yeah,
I
think
dave
explained
it
in
the
chat.
It
was
the
question
about
whether
there
was
a
moving
the
three
percent
premium
to
four
percent
and
I
think
the
last
two
proposals
have
been
submitted
at
three
percent.
So
just
to
recap
there,
these
proposals
can
be
submitted
from
two
point:
five
percent
to
five
percent.
E
Above
the
swapper
I
mean
so
the
dxd
weath
price
on
swapper,
and
that
is
up
to
like
basically
the
discretion
of
the
submitter
and
david
has
been
doing
that
mostly
lately
and
typically
we
we
adjust
that
based
upon
whether
or
not
the
orders
are
being
filled
and
actually
because
I
think
the
cross-chain
bridges
that
that
john
was
mentioning,
there's
actually
been
a
lot
more.
E
I
think
activity
on
filling
the
orders
on
xdi,
and
so
we
have
not
needed
that
four
percent
premium,
and
so
the
the
last
two
proposals
are
trying
it
with
the
three
percent.
But
I
actually
don't
think
any
of
the
three
percent
proposals
have
passed
yet,
but
they
probably
think
in
friday.
Maybe
we'll
start
to
see
those.
But
I
expect
that
to
be
those
orders
to
be
filled
just
as
easily
as
the
ones
have
been
the
last
month
or
so.
A
B
B
But
yeah,
so
the
idea
of
it
is
to
set
aside
funds
that
can
be
moved
quickly
to
anyone
in
the
community
that
thinks
they
could
do
take
an
action
with
that
would
cost
some.
You
know
smallish
amount
of
money
that
could
drive
value
to
dx,
dow
and
so
yeah.
It's
based
on
some
concepts
that
some
other
communities
have
tried
in
a
similar
way
and
we've
actually
talked
to
some
projects
that
are
like
using
their
community
to
do
all
their
marketing
and
then
they
get
rewarded
afterwards.
B
B
This
this
model
can
be
applied
to
lots
of
different
things,
and
one
idea
we
discussed
for
this
call
is
what,
if,
like,
we
also
source
the
community
to
come
up
with
new
crazy
ideas
for
cat
for
using
carrots
right,
and
so
some
of
those
ideas
will
work
and
some
of
those
ideas
won't
work,
but
using
the
wider
community
to
try
out
new
things
is
the
goal,
and
so
we
can
start
with
yeah
this
initiative
dao
and
then
we
can
also,
if
it
works,
we
can
apply
it
to
other
tasks
or
other
products
as
well.
A
Cool.
Thank
you.
I
got
one
question
here
which
I
think
you
did
somewhat
answer,
but
just
for
programming.
When
is
this
initiative
starting
and
do
I
need
any
prerequisites
to
participate.
B
B
So
we
need
to
come
to
a
consensus
on
what
those
details
would
be
one
there's
a
risk
of
giving
money
to
just
random
people
with
a
random
idea
and
they
just
walk
away
with
the
money.
So
that
is
a
risk.
So
one
idea
to
protect
against
that
is
potentially
the
people
should
have
some
reputation
that
they've
earned
in
the
dxdow
community,
even
if
it's
a
small
amount
and
have
that
kind
of
reputation
at
stake
where,
if
the
money
just
kind
of
what
person
walked
away
with
the
money,
then
that
rep
could
be
slashed.
B
So
we
need
to
maybe
delegate
get
the
funds
aside
and
delegate
to
maybe
a
smaller
sub
squad
or
something
the
exact
details
of
how
to
implement
it,
because
if
we,
if
we
yeah,
we
don't
need
to
know
those
exact
details
and
we
could
try
a
few
different
ways.
We
could
give
yeah.
We
can
experiment,
but
we
need
to.
We
don't
need
to
have
every
exact
detail
set
like
before.
B
G
C
Used
you
know
well
or
with
good
intention,
but
I
think
with
new
ideas,
there's
almost
always
also
just
the
risk
that
it
doesn't
work.
So
I
think,
with
the
amount
of
money
we're
talking
about,
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
overthink
the
the
system
of
like
making
sure
the
funds
are.
You
know
like
not
going
to
get
taken
like
we,
I
think,
a
little
bit
of
risk.
There
is
acceptable
just
to
experiment
with
the
idea
and
see
if
it
works.
C
So
will
there
be
governance
as
well,
yeah,
okay,
cool
all
right!
Well,
I'll!
Stop!
I
won't
grill
you
on
that,
but.
E
Maybe
this
is,
I
was
gonna
say.
Maybe
this
is
why
nylon
got
on
the
stage,
but
what
about
the
name.
G
Actually
why
I
got
on
stage.
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
ideas
for
the
initiative,
though,
and
I
think
you
know
the
goal
is
to
create
something
very,
very
lean
and
quick
to
experiment
with.
Yes,
like
you
know
we're
putting
a
bunch
of
money
at
stake.
That
could
you
know
if
this
all
goes
to,
and
you
know
people
just
use
it
to
scam
then
yeah
like
I.
I
don't
think
that
will
happen
but
yeah.
G
G
I
don't
know
not
at
all
and
like
disgusted
by
the
fact
that
I
said
multisync
but
yeah.
Let's
take
you
know
5k
and
experiment
with
it,
and
you
know
give
our
community
the
opportunity
to
yeah
to
create
decent
stuff
for
the
extent.
A
B
A
B
H
H
I
Oh
yeah,
yes,
we
have
two
type
of
kills
now
that
are
going
to
be
used
for
testing
in
ring
cavian
arbitron
one.
Is
it
using
common
erc20
token
right?
That
is
liquid,
that
you
can
transfer,
and
you
can
do
anything
that
you,
the
one
yeah
with
an
erc20
token
and
the
other
is
a
reputation
guild,
which
means
it
uses
the
same
type
of
reputation
that
we
use
in
the
exile
right
where
the
reputation
is
not
transferable.
The
gill
has
complete
power
to
meet
and
bear
the
reputation
of
the
gear
itself.
I
H
We'll
be
able
to
be
aggressive
testing
ground
before
we
go
with
like
a
huge
launch
with
auger
and
swapper
and
dxt
guilds.
Obviously
we're
testing
in
test
nets,
but
having
a
like
a
middle
step
of
using
it
as
a
tooling
for
the
initiative
tile
could
be
kind
of
cool
because
obviously
the
funds
are
small.
I
Sorry
also
imagine
that
you
can
use
the
same
address
on
all
networks,
because
this
is
something
that
we
are
going
to
be
doing.
We
have
the
same
address
on
arabic,
room
test
net
and
bring
kv
and
we
are
going
to
be
testing.
The
relayer
opens
between
different
layers,
but
eventually
this
can
happen.
You
can
have
the
same
address
of
initiative
dao
in
mainnet
in
exile
in
ring
caving
in
aravitro
minami
through
testnet
everywhere.
So
this
is
something
that
we
are
going
to
be
testing
too.
A
H
I
guess
I'll
give
my
thoughts
on
this,
and
then
it
goes
to
go.
I
think
so.
I
don't
think
we've
actually
written
this
up
anywhere
formally
before,
but
once
we're
redoing
the
docs
for
governance
and
dx
docs,
which
should
be
the
next
week
or
two,
and
we
can
maybe
have
a
page
on
that,
just
describing
in
detail
a
bit
kind
of
what
the
difference
is
currently
guilds.
H
I
mean
so
when
we,
when
we
launch
guild
since
we
now
have
rep
gails
as
well
as
the
rc20
guilds
and
there's
like
a
bunch
of
features
in
there.
That
does
make
it
very
similar
to
what
we
have
right
now
and
with
dx
volt
and
the
dx
dow
gil
dao
itself.
There's
a
few
things,
that's
kind
of
key
that
it
doesn't
have
the
main
one
being
holographic
consensus,
which
maybe
beyond
the
scope
of
like
talking
about
it
here.
But
it's
kind
of
a
key
part
of
how
we
do
governance.
H
But
the
the
gap
will
sort
of
get
larger
as
we
move
to
governance,
2.0,
which
wouldn't
be
covered
by
guilds,
and
so
that's
kind
of
where
the
gap
would
widen.
And
if
I
guess
so,
you
want
to
add
to
that.
I
Yes,
the
gear
will
be
like
you
can
think
it
as
a
governance
0.1,
something
like
that
where
you
have
a
very
simple
governance
layer
over
a
token,
and
that's
it
if
you
want
to
use
your
imagination,
you
understand
how
dxr
works,
that
we
use
holographic
consensus
and
schemes
and
controller
think
of
a
of
the
exile
with
only
one
scheme,
with
only
one
co,
with
with
one
controller
and
only
one
others
that
is
going
to
be
handling
all
the
funds.
I
Then
we
have
the
xgop
one
point
x
that
this
is
what
we
are
using
right
now,
which
is
a
mix
of
this
dial
stack
infrastructure
where
we
are
going,
and
then
you
have
governor
2.0
that
is
going
to
use
this
complete
the
explode
stack.
So
the
idea
is
that
the
the
gear
is
a
very
simple
governance
layer
over
that
can
be
added.
Over
a
token.
I
It
multiple
features
that
that
you
can
add
you
have
different
implementations
that
you
can
use
is
that
it's
right,
so
is
the
first
thing
to
restart
it
on
a
community
or
on
a
token
or
on
governance,
build
something
very
simple
and
grow
from
there.
C
In
addition,
I
think
within
the
dx
dao
context,
one
of
the
reasons
I
like
the
fact
that
we're
calling
them
guilds
is
it
kind
of
distinguishes
from
dx
tau
itself
right.
So
dx
dow
is
spawning
guilds
in
a
way,
and
I
think
that's
maybe
easier
to
reason
and
talk
about
when
we're
not
calling
them
the
same
thing
as
the
ecstatic
itself.
J
It's
like
a
don't
wanna,
but
it's
not
a
zoomer
thing.
It's
a
british
thing.
Afk
go
for
that
one!
Somebody,
oh.
D
H
C
Okay,
so
in
it
I
was
like
short
for,
isn't
it,
which
is
kind
of
a
cool.
H
D
A
Cool
guys,
if
there's
no
other
questions
comments,
gotta
move
on
here,
gonna
have
to
drop
at
the
top
of
the
hour.
I
wanna
do
a
quick
call
of
attention
to
a
carrot.
Ama.
We
had
mentioned
it
last
week
that
it
was
potentially
going
to
be
this
week.
We
do
have
a
couple
carrot:
contributors
on
vacation,
so
we're
temporarily
slotting
that
in
for
next
community
call
that's
next
thursday.
I
believe
the
9th
it'll
also
be
shortly
after
the
swapper
epochs
move
forward.
A
If
you
want
a
frame
of
reference,
so
expect
an
event
to
follow
at
the
top
left
of
our
server
there's
an
events
tab
that
you'll
be
able
to
subscribe
to.
There
will
also
be
an
announcement
when
that's
confirmed,
and
yes,
there
will
be
a
co-op
for
that.
A
That's
our
final
topic.
I
actually
have
one
more
thing
to
call
attention
to
we're
testing
agora
space
guilds.
Right
now
I
know
guilds.
Another
guild
is
very
difficult,
but
ignore
the
guild
aspect
of
it.
It's
a
simple
and
easy
way
to
verify
your
holdings,
so
we
do
have
a
swapper
and
dxd
holder
channel.
Originally
it
was
just
the
dxd
holder
channel.
A
If
you
go
into
the
links
and
information
channel
in
swapper,
which
I
will
link
here
here
for
swapper
or
wilson
info
for
dxd-
I'm
going
to
be
changing
that
shortly
they
have
their
modifications
disabled
temporarily,
but
you
can
verify
your
wallet
that
has
dxp
or
swapper.
I
believe
the
minimum
threshold
is
0.1,
dxd
or
500
swapper
for
now,
of
course,
so
verify
those.
A
If
you
want,
we
have
exclusive
channels
already
starting
to
fill
up
before
an
announcement
and
expect
an
announcement
for
that
shortly
as
well,
and
that
brings
us
to
our
open
questions
for
the
day.
As
always
anyone's
welcome
to
ask
come
on
the
stage,
whichever
just
feel
free
to
request.
I
do
have
a
couple
left
with
me.
I
do
believe
are
related
to
the
landing
page
refresh
because
they
seem
quite
correlated
the
first
one
is,
has
aqua
progressed
recently
and
when
will
it
be
launched,
I'm
not
sure,
maybe
maybe
ross.
C
Yeah
ross
can
can
jump
in
here
as
well.
The
development
of
aqua
has
been
on
the
back
burner
since
we've
focused
in
on
swapper
carried
in
governance.
We've
kind
of
addressed
that
in
previous
calls,
so
I
won't
go
into
the
rationale
there,
but
basically
just
to
be
more
focused,
and
so
there
hasn't
been
recent
development
on
it.
There
were
smart
contracts
built
that
enable
a
fixed
price,
sale
or
auction.
I
guess
it's
really
more.
Just
a
sale
and
there's
also
like
a
framework
around
you
know
adding
new
sale
mechanisms
that
were
developed.
G
C
Yet,
and
really
the
only
one
that
was
developed
in
the
front
end
was
this
fixed
price
sale.
Ross
can
can
talk
more
about
that
we
were
actually
ross,
and
I
talking
just
yesterday
about
aqua,
because
one
of
the
things
I'm
working
on
is
coordinating
audits
kind
of
you
know
for
the
next.
You
know
several
months,
basically,
with
with
many
are
probably
familiar
that
auditing
firms
are
very
booked
up.
So
it's
it's
a
and
they're
expensive.
C
So
it's
a
delicate
kind
of
coordinating
game
on
that
front,
but
we
talked
a
bit
about
you
know
whether
it
makes
sense
to
actually
put
aqua
in
the
auditing
pipeline.
My
takeaway
from
that
conversation
with
ross
is,
I
think
we
need
to
take
a
closer
look
on
like
the
rollout
strategy
there
like.
I
think
the
options
would
be
either
kind
of
continue
with
what
we
have
or
also
we
could
evaluate
what
exists
out
there.
That
could
be
forked
right.
C
It
may
simply
make
sense
to
take
another
platform
and
fork
it
and
which
would
save
us
the
auditing
costs
it
would
be
more
tested
and
established
if
we
can
get
the
same
or
better
functionality.
Out
of
those
smart
contracts,
so
the
short
answer
is
not
much
has
been
done
recently,
but
we'll,
I
think,
be
revisiting
it
and
where
it
will
come
into
the
roadmap
shortly.
A
Cool,
thank
you
see
your
comment.
Zett
we'll
go
to
it
after
I
finish
this
question.
The
same
person
asks
how
about
dxgov,
I'm
presuming
they're
looking
at
the
new
landing
page
into
seeing
the
new
coming
soon
products,
so
not
much
to
add
than
we
have
already.
I
think
dx
gov
is
basically
when
it's
ready,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
anything
to
add
ross.
Maybe
recent
developments.
H
A
Excellent
and
looks
like
maybe
the
last
question
here
from
zett
in
the
chat
is:
will
swapper
have
its
own
landing
page?
Yes,
it
will
we've
chatted
about
it
a
couple
of
times
it's
been
teased
a
couple
of
times
as
well.
If
you
go
to
the
medium
article
announcing
the
dx
dow
landing
page,
there's
a
bit
of
a
teaser
at
the
bottom
that
says,
can
you
guess
these
two
protocols,
if
it
wasn't
clear
already
one
of
those
is
definitely
swapper,
we'll
confirm
that
now
that's
set
to
answer
answer
your
own
question.
A
Yeah,
but
one
of
them
is
swapper
and
we
are
expecting
that
very
very
soon
again,
not
going
to
give
a
timeline
similar
to
zett.
There's
a
couple
of
things
you
have
to
figure
out,
such
as,
where
it'll
be
hosted,
how
it'll
route
to
the
regular
swapper
et
cetera,
but
hopefully
something
that
we'll
be
able
to
do
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
A
Cool
top
of
the
hour
here,
not
seeing
any
other
questions
and
got
through
the
ones
left
with
me,
we'll
give
a
second
to
see
if
anything,
pops
into
the
chat
otherwise
we'll
end
it
here.
C
I
will
just
anchor
a
question
I
saw
in
the
discord
about
asking
about
carrot
tokenomics,
if
the
meaning
of
that
is
like
how
can
it
generate
money?
I
mean
there
is
a
fee
that
can
be
built.
They
can
be
enabled
for
the
campaigns,
but
there
is
no
like
native
carrot
token,
in
the
sense
that
we
have
like
a
swap
our
token
when
we
we
are
talking
about
the
carrot,
tokens,
it's
the
ones
that
are
being
minted
with
the
collateral
to
be
used
in
the
campaigns.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
john
yeah,
I'm
not
seeing
anything
else
in
the
chat.
Well,
thank
you.
Everyone
for
coming
tune
in
next
week
on
thursday
december,
the
ninth,
where
we'll
have
a
carrot
ama
with
a
po
app
you're,
not
gonna,
wanna,
miss
that
just
we'll
be
confirming
that
earlier
in
the
week.
Of
course,
we
have
someone
missing
so
just
want
to
confirm
they
will
be
around
our
lead,
dev
nopo,
app
today,
ilpo
cool
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much.
Everybody
and
we'll
see
you
next
week
december.
The
9th.