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From YouTube: DXdao Community Call [2022-06-23] (audio)
Description
00:00 Welcome to our Fresh Spaces Faces
00:05 Agenda
01:06 State of Liquid Staking
08:03 Swapr Beta V13
13:48 DXgov Update
14:54 Offloading RAI from the Treasury
22:35 DXdao Expenses Update
32:30 COW Additional Liquidity Incentives (Swapr - Gnosis Chain)
34:27 HackerSoul
40:43 Operation Decentralization
A
Hello,
hello,
everybody
good
morning,
I'm
your
host
keenan.
Welcome
to
the
june
23rd
2022
weekly,
the
ecstatic
community
call
held
once
again
on
twitter
spaces.
Welcome
to
some
of
our
fresh
spaces
faces.
You
know
the
fun
alliteration
for
the
morning.
This
reminder
that
we're
experimenting
with
spaces
in
anticipation
of
operation
decentralization
our
upcoming
live,
show
all
about
decentralization
with
some
fun
guests.
For
today,
we're
going
to
dive
into
a
discussion
on
liquid
staking
solutions
and
the
associated
d-pegs
that
we've
been
experiencing
over
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
A
Some
treasury
expenses
info
some
more
context
on
swapper
v12
operation,
decentralization
and
hacker
seoul,
we'll
have
to
stick
around
for
a
little
more
context
than
those,
though,
if
you're
looking
for
a
live
discussion,
you
can
find
a
chat
for
this
call
in
the
dxdow
discord
channels.
Click
on
the
host
for
this
called
dxo's
twitter
profile.
You
can
find
the
discord
link
directly
in
the
profile.
All
discussion
is
going
to
be
held
in
the
mothership
text.
Channel
we
use
normally
for
our
community
calls.
A
If
you
can't
find
it
feel
free
to
leave
a
message
somewhere.
Someone
will
point
you
in
the
right
direction,
but
yeah.
Let's
kick
it
off
with
a
little
chat
about
the
state
of
liquid
ethereum
staking
solutions.
A
If
you're
here
for
last
week's
community
call,
I
spent
some
time
discussing
forum
posts
I
put
together,
which
I'll
link
in
the
chat
here
for
context.
If
you
give
me
one
moment,
it
will
let
me
there
we
are
yeah,
but
just
to
set
this
discussion
up.
Let
me
paraphrase
that
post
a
little
bit
here.
Basically,
I
went
over.
You
know
how
the
collapse
of
usp
caused
some
severe
uncertainty
in
the
markets,
particularly
targeting
kind
of
pegged
assets.
The
fears
really
started
with
the
usdt.
A
If
I
remember
correctly
eventually
that
bled
over
to
you
know
a
lot
of
other
peg
things
like
steak,
eat
from
lido
or
spieth.
I
don't
know
we
didn't
really
decide
on
the
best
way
to
call
ste
if
you're
familiar
with
how
liquid
sticking
works.
You
know
the
eat
cannot
be
redeemed
until
post-merge,
meaning
that
there's
you
know
insufficient
liquidity
and
you
need
to
sell
your
snake
eat
at
a
loss.
A
If
you
wanted
to
to
redeem
it
before
the
merger
trade,
it
not
necessarily
obviously
at
a
loss
but
provided
there
is
no
liquidity.
On
top
of
that,
and
you
know
the
declining
market
conditions
we've
had
in
the
last
couple
months.
People
quickly
realized
that,
and
you
know,
celsius
had
a
significant
position
in
stick
youth
as
well,
and
also,
if
I'm
correct,
had
considerable
debt
against
this
sticky
position.
A
So
you
know
considering
the
rumors
at
the
time
that
celsius
was
going
to
go
insolvent.
It
made
a
lot
of
sense
why
there
was
panic,
you
know
compounding
everything
really.
At
the
same
time,
and
of
course,
today,
the
rumors
ended
up
being
true
celsius,
halting
withdrawals
and
under
legal
scrutiny,
I'm
unaware
really
currently
of
their
effect
on
the
stake.
A
Youth
positions,
though
I
haven't
necessarily
caught
up
on
that
but
yeah,
but
after
spending
a
bit
of
time
below
the
peg
other
sticking
solutions
started
to
see
similar
discounts
which
I'm
actually
less
familiar
with.
I
actually
caught
one
of
it
from
dave
in
the
form,
but
last
I
checked,
I
think
yesterday
evening
s2,
if
I'm
correct
from
stakewise,
was
trading
at
a
comparable
discount
to
stake
the
from
lido,
something
like
0.96.
A
I
believe-
and
this
is
relevant
because
the
form
discussion
was
really
around
halting
funds
to
be
used
in
stake
wise
to
purchase
instead,
lido
stick
youth,
so
I
think,
considering
the
dpeg
no
longer
being
specific
to
lido
means
that
we
can,
you
know,
scale
into
many
sailing.
Sorry
many
staking
salutes
using
the
format
that
we
kind
of
had
in
the
initial
proposal.
A
B
B
The
deep
heading,
that's
happening
across
the
space
is
kind
of
you
know,
indicative
of
the
overall
market
conditions
and
a
run
for
safe
assets,
and
so,
in
this
case
it's
kind
of
like
moving
upstream
from
liquid
sticky
to
actually
ether
and
so
yeah.
B
I
think
that's
something
that
you
can
see
across
the
space
there
and,
as
kevin
said,
there's
a
all
of
the
states
have
seen
some
deep
eggings
there
and
then
the
second
thing,
just
in
terms
of
lido
as
the
geek
style
community
has
been
discussing
state
deep
over
the
last
several
months.
There
is
concerns
on
lydo's
centralization
aspects
or
having
a
such
a
dominant
liquid
staking
partner.
B
So
in
terms
of
trying
to
both
like
I
guess,
as
deep
down
purchases
its
state,
it
wants
to
both
maximize
like
its
financial
upside,
but
also
trying
to
abide
by
its
decentralization
ethos.
And
so
we
were
kind
of
having
that
having
to
have
that
discussion
a
week
ago
and
maybe
look
at
the
trade-offs,
but
because
actually
all
of
them
have
ended
up
depending
a
bit.
Then
yeah.
We
don't
have
to
make
that
decision
anymore,
and
so
I
think
yeah.
B
A
Yeah,
I
think
the
discussion
has
shifted
away
from
whether
or
not
we
want
to
have
a
lot
of
steak
eat
from
lido
to
instead
how
much
of
our
eat
we
want
to
utilize
in
liquid
staking.
So
I'm
not
sure.
Maybe
the
next
steps
are
that
in
the
community,
but
I
think
that's
probably
the
new
focal
point.
B
Yeah,
and
just
because
dave
would
say
this
if
he
wanted
to
get
up
on
stage,
but
one
of
the
you
know
there
is
a
the
price
difference
now
between
lido
and
states.
What
stakewise
is
like,
basically
the
same:
it's
like
94
kind
of
something
like
that,
but
for
stakewise
the
interest
is
paid
in
a
separate
token,
so
it's
actually
a
better
risk
that
it's
a
better
reward
right
now
to
go
with
state
over
lydo
just
from
a
financial
perspective,
not
even
accounting
for
the
decentralization
aspect.
A
I
see
he's
dropped.
That
was.
A
C
Well,
maybe
I
could
just
tune
in
with
a
fun
fact.
In
the
uk.
Alido
is
a
bathing
pool.
Normally
artificially
created
resembles
a
lake
where
people
bathe
in
the
summer.
So,
given
that
it's
in
crypto
it's
a
liquid
staking
pool,
so
maybe
we
could
call
it
lido,
but
I
don't
think
lighter
would
be
erroneous
either
so
yeah.
A
I'm
team
lido
but
anyways.
Let's
move
along
here
next
up
on
the
agenda,
just
some
regular
dxdot
recaps.
We
want
to
hop
into
the
swapper
in
dxgov.
I
think
we
have
zet
we
do
have
zet
here.
Is
that
you
willing
to
give
a
little
update
on
swapper
for
us
today.
D
Yeah
for
sure,
so
not
much
have
changed
since
last
week
we
did
have
a
release,
which
means
the
swapper
squad,
packaged
swap
repeat,
of
v13,
put
it
up
on
github,
and
we
got
a
community
proposal
for
deploying
it
and
it
should
be
live
now.
So
you
could
all
go
to
that
limo
to
see
it
and
includes
a
couple
of
nice
features.
We
introduced
the
echo
bridging,
which
is
super
awesome.
D
D
D
Unofficially,
at
least
I
think
balancer
has
cow
swap
integrated,
but
yeah
will
be
the
first
integration.
I
would,
I
would
say,
I'm
super
excited
for
it.
We
are
estimating
to
be
done
really
soon.
I'm
not
saying
any
dates
other
than
that
we're
doing
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
planning
for
for
the
future.
We're
doing
some
resource
planning
feature
planning,
we're
looking
into
which
networks
to
go
on
next.
So
if
you
guys
have
ideas
on
which
networks
we
should
go
on
next,
please
propose
that
so
swapper
will
have
two
ways
to
go
onto
network.
D
One
way
is
to
deploy
our
own
contracts,
where
we'll
have
our
own
liquidity
and
we'll
have
the
duty,
self-farming
and
everything
else,
but
we
also
have
another
way
to
go
on
to
another
network
which,
which
is
just
deploying
sorry.
It's
not
even
deploying
anything
we'll
have
our
echo
router
and
echo
bridge
there
live
so
one
example
is
polygon
and
swapper
doesn't
exist
on
polygon,
but
our
echo
bridge
and
echo
router
is
on
polygon,
so
yeah
it's
pretty
cool.
D
We
could
explore
networks
much
faster,
like
this
yeah
we're
looking
potential
echo
router
networks
that
we
will
go
on
to
next.
A
I
just
want
to
comment
that
eco
router,
aggregating
aggregators
is
a
very
interesting
thing,
getting
the
absolute
best
quote,
so
I
mean
us
deploying
those
on
you
know,
chains
that
swapper,
isn't
necessarily
solver
contracts
aren't
on.
I
think,
is
super
interesting
and
I've
been
using
swapper
alongside
cow,
swap
a
lot
these
last
couple
of
months,
so
very
excited
personally.
For
that.
C
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
extremely
excited.
I
I
think
we're
downplaying
this.
This
is
something
huge
like
I've
been
using
the
eco
router
and
sometimes
with
the
multi-hope
on
it.
Routes
me
through
some
very
interesting
pools
and
I'm
like
well
that
other
exchange
has
a
bigger
pool.
C
Why
is
it
routing
into
this
one,
and
when
I
realized
it's
allowing
me
to
arb
like
it
automatically
creates
the
best
strategy
to
hop
from
pool
to
pool
so
that
you
can
arb
the
price
difference
and
and
several
times
I've
made
a
profit
by
just
you
know,
because
otherwise
what
would
you
need
to
do
if
you,
a
noob
user
you'd,
need
to
go
through
exchange
after
exchange
to
manually
check
the
price
everywhere
before
you
make
up
your
mind
or
if,
if
you
don't
want
to
bother
with
all
those
steps,
you
just
pick
one
and
it
wouldn't
necessarily
be
the
most
convenient
or
efficient
one
and
you'll
likely
pay
extra.
C
You
can
just
go
to
swapper
and
all
of
your
problems
are
removed
and
also
people
have
been
spreading.
Memes
around
crypto
twitter
lately
with
like
what
is
web3,
oh
or
what
is
d5.
Oh,
it's
just
web
2
is
just
c5
with
extra
steps.
C
Nev
is
plaguing
the
ecosystem,
and
you
have
this
amazing
solution
that
people
should
wake
up
to
and
start
using
more
and
now
they
have
access
to
it
through
pretty
much
the
one
and
only
decentralized
front,
end
in
in
the
ecosystem,
which
is
swapper
managed
by
you,
know
owned
governed
and
developed
by
dxdow,
a
truly
decentralized
community,
and
not
only
that
but
kyle
swap
itself
taps
into
liquidity,
pools
of
swappers.
So
it's
this
amazing
example
of
composability
that
you
would
never,
in
a
million
years,
have
in
centralized
finance.
A
C
A
Next
up
here
on
the
agenda,
we
have
ross
interested
in
a
little
bit
of
an
update
from
the
dxgov
side
of
things.
F
Yeah,
I
think
it's
maybe
a
bit
difficult
to
follow
up
from
swapper
having
a
huge
release,
a
little
groundbreaking
stuff-
maybe
not
so
much
for
people
to
go
and
play
around
with
right
now.
But
we
just
got
the
audit
reports
back.
F
I
think
at
the
start
of
last
week,
and
so
we're
just
kind
of
working
through
those
we've
split
up
all
the
tasks
and
working
on
getting
those
back
as
soon
as
possible
to
just
like
my
prime
just
for
them
to
go
through,
make
sure
that
we
fixed
everything
and
then
it
will
be
ready
for
for
a
release,
hopefully
for
for
swapper
guild
going
live.
F
If
you
don't
have
a
timeline
yet
because
there's
a
few
kind
of
reliance
on
both
getting
things
fixed
from
the
development
side,
as
well
as
the
report
coming
back
to
us,
but
yeah,
hopefully
soon
we'll
have
a
lot
to
show
everyone.
A
Moving
on
to
our
next
topic,
hitting
a
forum
post
in
the
dow
talk
forum,
titled
offloading
rye
from
the
treasury,
I
think
we
have
dave
here
who
was
the
post
author
was
curious
if
you
could
run
through
some
context
what
the
post
is
and
why
we
want
to
take
those
actions.
G
You
scared
of
the
stage
I
believe
his
phone
does
not
have
the
capabilities
or
he
has
to
update
the
app
or
something
yeah.
It's
that
razer
phone
they're
really
like.
G
H
My
phone
is
just
as
up
to
date
as
it
needs
to
be
yeah,
so
the
forum
post
is
mostly
concerning
the
ride
we
currently
hold
in
our
treasure,
which
is
actually
the
largest
stable
coin.
We
kind
of
hold.
If
you
look
at
it
from
a
usd
perspective
and
the
way
rye
works,
it
has
a
redemption
rate
which
kind
of
like
adjusts
the
internal
price
of
rye
all
the
time,
and
that
rate
is
currently
at
minus
18.
H
H
We
were
looking
to
offload
roughly
700k
in
the
forum
post
out
of
like
the
900
and
something
we
own
right
rates
at
about
three
dollars
and
actually
the
internal
redemption
price
off.
The
top
of
my
head,
I
believe,
is
like
298,
while
it
still
trades
on
the
market
at
roughly,
like
3.04.
H
And
yeah,
given
the
the
large
negative
redemption
rate,
I
think
it
just
makes
sense
for
dx
dow
to
kind
of,
like
you
know,
exit
some
of
that
position.
18
is
obviously
a
lot
over
a
year
and
this
rate
is
dynamic,
so
it
does
change
based
on
a
number
of
variables,
which
I
believe
include
if
collateral
in
the
system.
H
How
much
rye
is
issued
and
some
other
factors,
but,
as
you
know,
in
the
current
circumstances,
as
the
market
has
been
going
down,
I
believe
the
rate
has
been
negative
for
the
past
couple
of
weeks,
if
not
longer-
and
I
just
think
right
now
for
the
dxo,
it
does
make
sense
to
kind
of
offload
some
of
that
move
it
into
some
of
the
stable
coins
we
do
already
hold
like
usdc
die
some
lusd
and
you
know.
I
think
this
is
just
how
rye
works.
H
It's
like
the
internal
mechanism
and
it's
working
as
it's
supposed
to
so
I
definitely
think
you
know
we
we
could
reacquire
samurai
at
a
certain
point.
Just
a
brief
note
also
is
that
we
did
acquire
this
right
when
it
was
like
above
4k.
H
So,
even
though
you
know
it
might
be
a
cent
or
two
below
what
we
purchased
to
that
it
did
kind
of
you
know
we
did
kind
of
drive
a
good
bargain.
I
would
say-
and
you
know
we
should
keep
on
monitoring
the
right
situation
and
perhaps
reacquire
some
in
the
future,
even
at
like
a
lower
single
digit
redemption
rate.
I
think
you
know
just
by
the
decentralization
it
brings.
H
It
could
still
make
sense
to
hold
that,
and,
of
course,
if
the
redemption
rate
is
positive,
it's
a
no-brainer
anyway,
but
the
market
should
kind
of
like
drive
that
out
in
in
a
normal
state
and
yeah.
I
think
that's
pretty
much
sums
it
up
from
my
side,
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
any
questions
or
feedback
or
chris
is
also
a
great
reflexer
finance
affectionado.
So
maybe
he
has
some
words
to
share
as
well.
B
No,
I
was
just
looking
at
the
site,
there's
stats
now
and
the
it's
negative
21.5
right
now.
So
that's
kind
of
fluctuated
around
that
20
negative
20
number
the
last
week
or
two
here.
B
B
Well,
yeah!
No,
I
don't
think
there's
anything
kind
of
else
to
be
curious.
If
anyone
has
any
questions,
I
think
dave
kind
of
gave
you
a
review.
I
mean
the
key
takeaway
is
that
rye.
The
r
reflexer
system
is
targeting
a
negative
20
yield
for
rye
right
now,
so,
like
a
rational
actor,
who's
holding
rye,
you
know,
would
sell
rather
or
and
kind
of
get
out
of
that
negative
yield,
and
I
think
that's
you
know,
makes
best
sense
for
geek
style.
B
But
as
dave
said
like,
there
is
a
very
strong
decentralization
component
to
the
geeksdale
rye
exposure
right
because
I
think
usdc
and
dye
have
their
own
complications,
and
so
I
do
think
there's
like
some
number
that
it
would
be
worth
geek
style
like
having
maybe
even
some
negative,
yielding
of
rye,
just
because
of
the
decentralization
element
and
again
just
interesting
that
this
is
happening
in
light
of
the
recent
market
volatility
and
also,
you
know
similar
to
the
peg
eth,
the
stake-wise
and
the
lido
situation.
B
C
Yeah,
it's
truly
amazing
how
you
know
patience
is
a
virtue
and
what
is
that
other
saying?
The
first
will
become
last
and
the
last
will
become
first.
You
know
you
see,
we've
had
this
conservative
strategy
all
along
and
somehow
we
ended
up
ahead
of
the
curve
with
everything
we've
done.
Look
at
other
organizations,
I'm
going
to
name
them,
but
they've
been
chasing
leverage
and
trying
to
one-up
everyone
and
what
happened
with
them
right,
and
here
we
are,
and
in
the
end
I
also
say
I
love
the
transparency
here.
C
We
are
talking
about
it
being
all
public
about
it.
It's
on
a
public
forum.
You
know
it's
not
behind
closed
doors,
it's
not
using.
You
know
just
a
multi-sig
without
informing
anyone
about
it,
it's
being
discussed
publicly
it.
It
will
be
an
unchained
proposal
to
approve
it.
The
signal
proposal,
and
only
then
the
you
know,
members
of
the
dow
would
be
allowed
to
do
whatever
is
supposed
to
be
done
with
the
funds.
So
I
think
we
are
very
exemplary
as
an
organization
and
others
should
pay
attention
for
the
for
the
next
bull
run.
A
Yeah
awesome
great
thoughts,
everyone
here,
while
we
have
you,
mr
chris,
let's
chat,
dx
expenses
update
for
june
of
2022,
fantastic
form,
flood
thread
from
you
running
through
all
expenses
and
kind
of
paving
the
way
to
kind
of
more
budget
tightness
over
the
next
couple
of
months.
So
we'd
love
some
context.
There.
B
Sorry,
it's
just
me
still
going
to
get
the
mic
and
I
guess,
like
yeah,
people,
maybe
can
see
the
link
somewhere
in
the
discord
chat.
You
can
share
it
there,
but
yeah.
This
is
a
an
update
kind
of
looking
at
geek
style
expenses
really
focused
on
like
kind
of
the
first
six
months
of
this
year.
B
I
think
there
were
a
lot
of
changes
that
geek
style
was
kind
of
undergoing
and
kind
of
growing
some
product
teams
and
there-
and
so
I
think
it
provides
you
know,
an
overview
of
where,
where
money
has
been
spent,
where
things
have
been
invested-
and
I
think
that's
the
type
of
kind
of
foundation
that
can
be
used
for
squads
to
start
to
create
their
own
budget.
You
know,
I
think,
to
get
a
little
philosophical
for
a
second.
I
think
when
think
of
like
what's
good
for
dows
and
how
taos
can
evolve.
B
I
think
it's
really
important
to
have
this
like
very
open
organic
period
of
discovery
where
there
are
like
not
very
many
kind
of
restrictions,
they're,
not
really
many
clear
ideas
of
where
things
are
going
and
then,
in
that
initial,
like
organic
phase,
some
things
start
to
emerge
that
are
good
or
are
successful.
And
then
you
end
up
building
around
those.
B
You
kind
of
set
some
parameters
around
those
things
that
arose
organically
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
what
we're
doing
here
with
the
expenses
and
budget
right
we
kind
of
we've
had
you
know,
we've
been
tracking
these,
for
you
know,
really
kind
of
going
on
like
a
year
year
and
a
half,
but
in
terms
of
how
it
informs
the
actual.
Like
day-to-day
investment
decisions,
there
hasn't
been
much
of
a
like
budget
before
looking
budget
component.
B
You
know
partly
because
this
you
know
it
was
a
kind
of
rapid
growth
phase
for
dxo
and
it
had
funding
and
it
was
kind
of
trying
to
go
out
and
find
opportunities
and
be
able
to
invest
in
people
in
different
products
and
see
what
worked.
But
I
think
now
we
have
the
chance
to
look
at
this
data.
Look
at
this
kind
of
expenses
that
we've
had
in
the
past
and
use
that
to
help
us
better
inform
how
we
will
look
at
things
going
forward.
B
So
just
a
couple
like
high
level
numbers
in
terms
of
what
geek
style
expenses
are
so
over
the
last
six
months
about
265
000,
dollar
average
monthly
expenditures,
depending
on
we
have
certain
expenses
that
that
may
come
in
over
the
the
coming
weeks
and
months
here.
So
that
is
probably
closer
to
maybe
like
280
000
a
month
and
then
based
on
some
already.
B
B
I
think,
like
a
300,
000
monthly
burn
rate
is
a
safe
estimate
right
now,
kind
of
to
funding,
geek
styles
current
operations
and
then
just
talking
about
those
stable
coins
in
the
treasury,
that
is
about
3.7
years
of
runway,
just
for
the
stable
coins
off
of
that
amount
in
terms
of
the
breakdown
expenses.
Yet
just
some
high
level
numbers
here
you
know
swapper
is
about
twenty
nine
percent
of
deep
sounds
expenses.
B
The
dx
cup
product
team
is
twenty
four
percent
dx
voice,
nineteen
percent
governance,
eleven
percent
contributor
x,
seven
and
then
dxp
is
six
percent
and
then
there's
a
couple,
others
that
are
kind
of
are
lower
than
than
that
and
then
looking
at
a
couple
of
the
bigger
squads,
so
swapper
and
dxgov
and
dx
boyce
are
the
three
largest
squads
and
so
diving
into
those
and
looking
at
a
breakdown
of
their
expenses,
you
can
see
for
swapper.
B
They
have
both
a
lot
of
contributors
and
there's
a
big
expense
in
terms
of
development
shop,
because
the
space
ins
team
supports
swapper,
so
you
can
see
about
45
of
their
expenses
or
contributors
and
then
45
percent
are
also
to
developers
or
to
the
space
inch
folks
with
dx
gov
dx
gov
also
has
a
heavy
reliance
on
contributors
right.
That's
where
most
of
the
compensation
goes
and
dx
gov
does
not
use
a
outside
development
shop,
but
it
does
rely
heavily
on
audits.
B
So
over
the
last
six
months,
around
48
of
d
expenses
were
two
audits.
Most
of
the
most
of
that
was
in
the
160
000
audit
through
sigma
prime,
which
ross
was
just
mentioning
earlier
that
they
were
working
through.
So
that's
a
huge
component
there,
and
so
you
can
see
kind
of
how
that
that
plays,
but
the
swapper
team
and
the
d
stub
team
have
you
know
almost
half
from
contributors
and
then
half
from
kind
of
like
a
a
a
more
software
shop
or
a
third
party.
B
That's
providing
a
specific
service
and
then
dx
voice
is
a
little
bit
more
as
they
say
lumpy,
because
it
doesn't
have
as
many
consistent
yeah.
Can.
I
just.
D
Give
a
small
note
in
there
also
we
do
have
a
couple
of
people
that
works
with
qa
full
time
and
dx
gov
does
use
this
small
sub
squad
to
do
qa.
Actually,
so
the
the
and
the
plan
is
actually
to
create
a
squad
just
for
qa
that
that
will
split
away
from
swapper
and
that
will
support
all
the
taps
inside
of
of
deke
style.
So
dx
gov
does
use
the
contractors
too.
For
now,
at
least
when
it
comes
to
qa.
B
Oh
that's
right,
like
what
things
are
like
actually
cross
product,
what
things
should
be
separated
out
so
hopefully
yeah
through
this
exercise,
and
that
was
like
a
really
good
feedback
in
terms
of
that,
because
all
of
these
categories
are
just
you
know
really
like
judgments
from
looking
at
proposals
and
what
people
work
on
and
how
to
split
expenses,
but
when
we
aggregate
it
all
up,
it
does
give
a
picture
of
where
things
are
being
invested
and
where
things
are
prioritized.
B
B
Yeah
and
then
just
the
last
kind
of
squad
to
maybe
think
a
little
about
saying,
dx
voice
is
a
little
bit
more
lumpy
and
that's
primarily
because
a
lot
of
its
expenses
come
from
some
sponsorships.
So
there
were
sponsorships
for
eve
denver.
I
think
around
20
000
there
was
a
12
000
one
for
amsterdam.
B
The
global
governance
gathering,
but
then
the
largest
sponsorship
for
duke's
voice
was
the
hundred
thousand
dollar
sponsorship
for
the
copenhagen
flames
there,
and
so
they
had
actually
32
of
its
expenses
from
sponsors
and
then
there's
also
a
lot
of
different
one-off
expenses.
That
dxvoice
has
there
and
so
yeah
there's
a
lot
more
in
the
post
to
kind
of
look
at
and
there's
excel.
B
If
you
want
to
like
dive
in
a
little
bit
more,
I
think
there's
some
interesting
things
in
looking
at
like
events
and
how
much
these
costs
to
send
contributors
to
things
too
and
then
yeah,
just
the
kind
of
like
next
steps
is
a
lot
of
the
squads
are
going
through
now
and
coming
up
with
looking
at
their
next
six
months
and
trying
to
project
okay.
What
are
the
needs?
We
have.
B
What
are
the
types
of
services
or
products
that
that
like
would
be
great
to
to
have-
and
I
hope
that
you
know
contributors
or
squad
leads,
take
it
as
an
opportunity
to
be
like
you
know,
think
of
things
that
would
cost
money
but
would
have
some
type
of
big
value
like
driving.
There's
lots
of
different
online.
B
You
know
products
and
dev
tools
that
people
use
that
geek
style
could
be
funding,
and
I
think
if
we
have
like
kind
of
some
information
about
it
and
carving
out
the
budget,
it
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
possible
for
some
of
those
tools
that
could
improve
productivity,
so
yeah,
that's
the
kind
of
goal
going
forward
is
to
try
to
come
up
with
the
six
month
budget
for
each
of
the
squad
that
will
try
to
post
and
work
from
starting
on
august
1st.
B
B
Everything
will
kind
of
still
function,
the
same
way
in
terms
of
people
submitting
proposals
and
getting
paid,
but
just
having
like
a
you
know,
a
forward-looking
budget
will
allow
us
to
be
a
little
bit
more
accountable
to
what
we're
saying
and
allow
us
to
reflect
back
on
and
say:
okay
well,
six
months,
we
thought
we
were
going
to
spend
them
things
on
this
and
we
ended
up
not
spending
those
things
on
that.
So
it'll
give
us
that
perspective
and
then
I
also
do
think
long
term
it.
B
You
know
moving
to
this
type
of
discussion,
community
discussion
about
where
resources
are
allocated,
like
you
know,
that's
kind
of
how
you
can
scale
to
where
the
squads
are
like
guilds
and
they're
actually
distributing
the
funds
themselves,
and
that's
actually
like
the
the
individual
worker
proposal,
for
instance,
maybe
not
be
going
through
all
of
the
style
governance,
it's
more
of
just
like
this
budget
approval
process,
but
that's
a
ways,
ways
down
the
road.
But
hopefully
this
puts
us
in
that
direction.
A
Yeah
super
high
quality
and
fantastic
necessary
posts.
I
think
so
it's
been
great
to
see
that
up
and
very
excited
to
see
going
forward
some
budgets
from
around
dxdow
coming
up
next
here
I
want
to
quickly
chat
cow
liquidity,
incentives
on
swapper
gnosis
chain.
Now
we
did
have
a
comment
in
the
chat
here
as
well
about
that.
I
want
to
give
some
context.
A
Basically,
we
deployed
previously
on
the
previous
epoch
that
started
on,
I
believe
june
9th
we
deployed
a
two-week
campaign
and
that
was
to
await
a
proposal
to
the
cow
dao
surrounding
some
initial
liquidity
incentives,
which
I
will
link
the
snapshot
to
in
the
chat
here.
If
I'm
correct,
I
think
I
had
74
percent
four,
oh
right
on
the
nose
here,
roughly
75,
and
it
was
obviously
it
reached
its
quorum,
so
the
cow
was
sent
to
or
they
did
distribute
the
cow
to
us.
A
So
we
received
it
in
our
authorized.
Multisig,
that's
been
handling
kind
of
carrot
deployments,
so
we've
deployed
another
two
week
campaign
that
started
as
of
30
minutes
ago
and
you're
wondering
why
why
two
weeks,
if
we
received
all
those
funds-
and
the
main
reason
is
that
we
don't
have
gno
to
facilitate
all
12
weeks
of
those
campaigns
currently,
so
we
opted
to
keep
things
on
our
regular
schedule,
a
regular
cadence,
to
deploy
some
longer
campaigns
here
after
we've
had
discussion
and
received
some
additional
gno.
A
So
the
start
of
the
upcoming
epochs,
which
just
to
confirm,
I
believe,
is
july
7th
at
1500
utc.
That's
when
we'll
kind
of
have
that
formal
decision,
then
we're
looking
to
a
longer
cadence.
For
specifically
the
cow
pairs
somewhere
between
kind
of
four
to
ten
weeks
has
been
what
we've
been
discussing.
Obviously
12.
would
be
nice
to
keep
things
on
our
regular
cadence,
but
if
we
have
to
have
this
two
weeks,
then
it
might
be
something
in
between
there
but
yeah.
That's
the
current
status
the
two
week.
A
A
Cool
and
then
our
next
topic
here
is
hacker
soul.
You
know
what
it
is
and
when
can
you
learn
more
hacker
soul
being
what
we
discussed
on
last
week's
community
call
a
dx,
thou
sponsored
and
organized
hackathon.
I
think
maybe
some
light
contacts
would
be
great.
I
don't
know.
Maybe
sky
is
the
right
person.
I
think
john
was
invited.
I
think
he's
traveling
today.
A
G
So
hacker
soul
is
a
dx
style,
originated
idea
to
have
a
hacker,
a
hacker
centric
curated,
not
too
large
hackathon
around
the
fact
of
many
hackers
and
people
in
our
space
showing
up
to
bogota
around
devcon
and
so
dxdow
has
never
put
on
its
own
hackathon.
G
But
the
community
has
a
lot
of
ideas
around
things
that
are
yeah
quite
a
bit
different
than
a
like.
The
traditional
hackathons
that
we've
been
seeing
mainly
put
them
by
other
parties
in
the
space
that
are
coming
becoming
bigger
and
bigger,
and
so
from
from
a
hacker
perspective
led
by
augusto
and
and
other
you
know,
old
school
hackers
in
the
space.
A
lot
of
new
ideas
for
the
experience
and
format
and
way,
prizes,
work
and
way.
G
Hacks
are
presented
to
the
community
and
how
judging
works
a
lot
of
new
ideas,
and
so
this
yeah
this
time
was
chosen
as
a
as
a
opportune
time
to
put
something
like
this
event
on,
because
you
know
devcon's
usually
a
time
when
many
people
from
around
the
world
all
gather
like
well
yeah
many
people
from
the
space
gather
in
one
in
one
location,
for
a
decent
period
of
time,
and
so
yeah
dx
dao
has
identified
that
weekend
prior
to
devcon
as
the
period
to
do
this
and
is
speaking
to
and
looking
for
a
few
co-organizers
who
can
will
want
to
help
participate
and
help
to
create
this
hacker,
soul,
hackathon,
and
so
all
those
pieces
are
coming
together,
including
the
venue
potential
co-organizers
the
website
in
order
to
get
the
awareness
out
and
have
a
place
where
hackers
can
apply
and
share
why
they
would
want
to
participate.
G
I
think
that
that
that
that
process
will
be,
you
know
rather
curated
curated.
We
want
to
seek
the
best
quality
hackers
out
there
that
were
are
interested
in
this
version
of
a
hackathon,
and
so
we've
been
trying
to
communicate
some
of
the
unique
differences.
G
For
this
event,
a
gusto
who
yeah
doesn't
he's
not
on
twitter
would
probably
have
some
more
things
to
add,
because
a
lot
of
these
new
ideas
for
for
what
hackers
want
actually
come
from
his
experience
and
his
his
hacking
in
his
mind
over
over
the
years,
but
I
think
everyone
should
keep
an
eye
out
for
some
announcements,
which
should
be
coming
shortly
around
some
of
the
details
and
how
hackers
and
people
in
the
space
can
apply
to
participate.
In
this
event,
one
thing
yeah
we've
been
speaking
about
is
you
know.
G
Our
whole
space
is
about
decentralization
dx.
Dao
has
strong
decentralization
principles
at
at
heart,
and
you
know.
We
think
that
many
things
in
the
space
should
be
decentralized
or
have
some
decentralization
to
them,
and
what
we've
seen
is
a
lot
of
the
hackathons
in
the
space
are
becoming
bigger
and
more
centralized
over
time,
and
so
this
is
a
bit
of
a
of
an
experiment
or
a
statement
by
dx,
dow
and
other
aligned
organizations
who
want
to
try
some
other
version
of
this
type.
G
These
types
of
events,
and
so
yeah,
it's
a
it's
a
it
will
be
a
cool
experiment.
There's
a
lot
of
work
to
go
into
it.
If,
if
anyone
in
the
dx
style
community
is
interested
in
helping
and
trying
to
participate
and
join
the
the
dx,
the
hacker
soul
squad,
that's
a
temporary
squad
being
formed
to
oversee
this
initiative.
G
Yeah,
please
reach
out
on
key
base
or
on
discord,
and
if
there's
things
that
you
know,
if
you
have
experience
with
these
types
of
events
or
any
ideas
for
it
would
be
great
to
hear,
but
I'm
sure
we'll
have
some
forum
post
and
some
and
some
announcements
coming
from
twitter
and
and
then
details
on
how
people
can
start
to
apply
to
attend
the
event.
So
that's
the
overall
summary.
A
Yeah
well
said
in
a
little
bit
of
context
on
that
kind
of
next
step.
I
think
we
can
confidently
look
forward
to
a
formal
announcement
sometime
late
next
week
or
early
the
week
following
and
at
that
point
it
will
be
open
to
applications
we'll
be
open
to
some
more
context
and
exactly
what
we
have
going
on
and
a
little
bit
more
about
the
event
and
the
co-organizers.
A
So
definitely
look
forward
to
that
and
then
obviously
coming
closer
to
the
event
as
well
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much
sky.
I
think
that's
the
gist
from
my
end
next
couple
topics
here.
Just
some
quick
call
of
attention
first
of
all,
is
obviously
swapper
beta
13,
which
we
had
zett
mentioning
earlier.
This
call,
if
you
have
not
yet
participated,
go,
take
a
look.
Starvator
13.
lots
of
interesting
new
things
very
sleek
new
ui.
A
I
must
say
some
new
little
changes
around
that
I've
been
playing
with
this
morning.
So
please
take
a
look
at
software
beta,
13
swapper.ed.limo,
if
you
have
not
yet
visited
swapper
and
the
other
thing
is
operation
decentralization,
which
we've
been
giving
some
updates
for
for
some
weeks
now-
and
it's
always
you
know
next
week
next
week,
I
will
confidently
say
now
that
we
have
finalized
the
branding,
which
I
will
share
a
little
sneak
peek
for
in
the
chat
here.
A
The
mothership
text,
which
you
can
take
a
look
at,
should
be
sent
now
yeah,
so
branding
is
finalized
and
kind
of
the
idea
boarding.
Everything
is
kind
of
set
up,
so
we
are
ready
to
move
forward
with
it
and
kind
of
reach
out
and
confirm
with
our
partners,
so
not
confirming
a
date
here.
Quite
yet,
but
things
are
moving
along
very,
very
well.
A
C
Yeah
yeah,
why
not
thank
you?
What
can
I
say
I?
I
would
like
to
create
some
fomo
around
hacker
soul.
Like
don't
sleep
on
it,
you
know.
Stay
tuned,
keep
an
eye
on
social
media
channels,
because
this
will
be
epic,
it
it's
the
first
time.
You
know
it's
david,
going
against
goliath.
You
know
it's
a
hackathon
for
hackers
created
by
hackers
and
it's
gonna
be
amazing.
There's
gonna
be
food
drinks,
swag,
they're
gonna
be
3d
printed
medals,
trophies
nfts
crypto,
and
it's
all
about
growing
and
having
fun
while
hacking.
C
C
Developers,
developers
developers,
developers
developers,
let
me
try
and
reproduce
steve
bomber
developers,
developers,
developers,
developers
there
person.
C
E
Yeah,
maybe
we
should
do
this
when
you
know
in
bogota,
when
we
get
there.
C
I
want
to
say
something
about
dave.
Look
at
it
like
well.
This
is
a
contributor
of
a
decentralized
community
in
control
of
a
treasury
at
a
point
worth
above
100
million
dollars
and
like
unlike
other
communities
in
the
space
where
you
have
thousands
of
people
trusting
their
funds
with
a
multi-sig.
C
We
have
a
completely
trusted
setup
where
we
have
the
entire
community.
You
know
the
whatever
is
happening
with.
Fund
management
is
in
the
purview
of
the
entire
community.
At
any
point,
so
you
know
that
it
doesn't
really
make
sense,
but
I'm
it's
just
for
fun.
I'm
gonna
say
you
know
someone
in
control
of.
C
If
someone
doesn't
understand
the
current
setup
would
say:
oh
someone
in
control
of
a
hundred
million
dollars
cannot
buy
a
proper
phone
to
join
twitter
spaces,
but
yeah
no
one
is
in
control
of
the
funds.
No
one
has
claim
on
the
funds.
It's
a
true
dow.
If
anyone
still
doesn't
know
how
dig
style
operates,
they
should
go
to
dxdocs.eve.limo
and
learn
more
or
join
our
discords
and
ask
away
and
we'll
gladly
help
them
with
any
questions
they
got.
But
yeah.
H
A
Love
dave
accepting
the
reward
award
here
at
the
end
of
the
call
super
fun.
It
was
very,
very
funny
call
was
laughing
for
half
of
it
but
yeah.
Thank
you.
Everyone
for
joining
us
today
on
twitter.
If
you're
not
aware,
we
do
bi-weekly
rotations,
so
our
sorry
weekly
rotations,
we
do
twitter
this
week.
Of
course,
in
the
next
week,
will
be
in
discord
for
a
community
call
and
then
hopefully
the
week
after
that
operation
decentralization
will
be
back.