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B
Hello
and
welcome
to
the
geeksdale
business
call
for
monday,
20th
of
march
2022
and
yeah
on
the
agenda
today.
We
do
actually
have
a
new
member
introduction
other
than
that
we
have
alex
from
charmers
here,
who's
gonna
be
presenting.
B
There's
a
the
experience
discussion
about
dick
style
participating
in
agave
auction
to
essentially
recapitalize
agave
after
the
exploit
yeah
there
are.
There
are
a
few
things
under
sort
of
like
east
amsterdam
and
dev
connect
week.
That's
happening
in
amsterdam
during
the
like
late
april
and
yeah.
I
think
that's
mostly
it
and
I
guess
we
can
get
started
adam.
Do
you
want
to
introduce
the
new
person.
D
Hey
guys,
I've
I'm
a
new
guy
here.
I've
been
developing
in
in
the
banking
industry,
with
containerized
applications
and
yeah.
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
integrate
myself
with
the
team
and
starting
to
head
to
get
a
hang
and
hopefully
contribute
to
swapper
and
dxd
dxtawin
in
general
yeah.
Thank
you
so
much.
D
Yeah
I
came
from
from
that
friend
of
a
friend,
yeah
and
yeah
people.
People
start
talking
and
you
know.
E
C
B
Yes,
so
I
guess
the
next
item
of
the
topic
is
we
have
alex
from
charmers
here
alex.
Do
you
wanna.
E
From
converse,
we
are,
the
short
form
is
that
we
are
trying
to
build
a
web3
decentralized
version
of
notion,
at
least
in
the
progressive
way.
So
I
think
kristen
skye
had
played
around
the
tool.
A
little
bit
would
love
to
show
you
around
and
answer
any
question
or
see
what
kind
of
comments
you
have.
B
E
E
A
G
On
swapper
yeah,
I
think
it
so
these
transactions
went
through
we
yellowed
into
it.
The
last
transaction
was
was
actually
failing
in
the
simulation,
but
it
looks
like
it
it's
working
and
it
starts.
I
think,
in
like.
G
Or
three
minutes
so
yeah
make
sure
you
have
your
cow
start
performing
there's
four.
G
It
looks
really
cool.
There
also
is
a
small
little
last
surprise:
gnosis
sent
48
or
gno
for
the
campaign,
so
there's
some
more
gno
for
this
campaign.
Of
course,
gno's
gone
up
a
lot
too
so
yeah
happy
counting,
happy
counting.
E
E
One
second
to
lock
so
here
first,
as
I
try
to
get
past
this,
so
one
right
now,
the
way
to
log
into
our
platform
is
through
connecting
your
metamask.
E
So
let
me
do
that
because
I'm
using
a
different
browser,
try
to
reconnect
my
mask.
E
Although
we
are
working
on
a
discord,
login
and
a
yeah,
it's
mostly.
E
Let
you
hold
in
your
discord
roles
into
our
platform.
That's
literally
happening
this
week,
but
in
the
meantime
we
like.
E
Yeah
good,
yes
different.
I
figured
that
I
figured
as
much
okay,
so
here,
if
you
have
a
used
notion,
it
should
look
similar
to
you.
That's
the
point
that
we're
not
trying
to
innovate
on
how
you
can
write
a
doc
or
track
task,
but
we
just
want
to
give
you
a
good
experience
on
having
what
a
modern,
a
modern
editor
would
look
like
to
work
with
this.
E
E
If
your
custom
token,
you
can
also
check
your
custom
working
prices,
so
yeah
be
able
to
format
your
pages,
some
things
that
you
expect
from
a
modern
editor.
E
You
also
get
something
that
you
know
what
you
expect
a
model
editor
in
terms
of
like
tracking
tasks,
so
this
is
a
fully
functional
task
board
that
everything
is
fully
customizable
from
coloring
to
the
text.
There's
different
views
that
you
come
to
expect
now.
E
What
gets
what's
not
to
get
a
little
bit
more
interesting
is
that
when
you
pay
attention
to
a
couple
of
these
cards
and
in
this
particular
scenario,
we
are
working
in
the
community
op
skills,
maybe
we
we
want
to
change
one
bounty
to
one
of
the
tasks
and
you
can
do
that
in
this
particular
task.
E
Yes,
so
if
I
go
into
edit
mode,
you
can
see
that
we
let
you
sort
of
set
up
the
description
and
title
of
the
bounty
set
of
a
reviewer
and
then,
which
chain
do
you
pay
payout
from,
so
we
support
multiple
chains
from
ethereum
polygon,
how
many
etc
etc.
E
Again,
if
you
have
a
setup,
we
you
can
even
pay
for
your
custom
down.
Token
as
well,
you
can
execute
the
transaction
once
the
bounty
is
done,
either
on
a
wallet
to
wallet
transaction
one
at
a
time,
or
we
support
a
gnosis
one-time
transaction
that
you
can
mark
multiple
bounties.
That
can
be
done
and
then
execute
that
all
at
once
and
then.
Finally,
you
can
also
export
all
the
required
bounty
into
a
csv
and
then
upload
modifying
and
upload.
It
yourself.
E
If
you
like,
for
the
case
where
we
are
looking
at
onboarding
new
new
people
to
the
dow
and
or
having
people
just
pick
up
bounties.
We
have
a
consolidated
view
of
a
bounty
view
on
the
side
here
so
that
you
know,
and
what
we
expect
is
that
if
you
have
engineering
team
design,
team
social
team
that
are
all
putting
out
their
own
bounties
in
their
own
passport,
they
all
get
pulled
into
this.
One
singular
board
automatically.
E
To
bring
people
to
to
the
workspace,
you
can
there's
a
couple
of
ways.
One
is
by
using
a
share
link.
This
is
pretty
simple
kind
of
similar
to
what
you
get
from
discord.
How
long
does
it
fix?
Have
a
maximum
number
of
users
or
you
can
use?
You
can
build
the
token
gate.
E
We
support
different
ways
to
token
gating.
We
support
white
listing
wallet,
addresses
holding
a
set
of
dial
tokens
or
dial
nft.
If
you
have
them
all
down
implementation,
we
support
that
as
well
or,
if
you're
issuing
pro
apps.
You
can
also
unlock
the
the
workspace
with
power,
and
you
can
build
logic
with
this.
So
if
you
want,
you
can
say
the
whole,
you
know
20
of
the
excel
token,
but
then
also
hold
this
nft
on
polygon
to
unlock
the
space.
E
And
all
you
really
have
to
do
is
put
in
the
contract
address
and
how
many
of
that
particular
token
you
expect
the
person
to
hold
to
to
create
this
game
and
and
control
the
accents
here.
E
We
certainly
can
care
a
lot
about
how
to
progressively
fill
this
into
a
more
decentralized
manner,
so
this
is
sort
of
our
first
step.
The
token
gating
functionality
is
built
with
a
lit
protocol,
which
is
a
decentralized
access
control
protocol,
so
certainly
the
first
piece
in
our
platform
that
are
truly
decentralized
and
we're
looking
for
design,
partner
and
and
and
platforms
out
there
to
progressively
help
help
us
make
this
more
and
more
decentralized
over
time.
B
E
No,
this
is
this
is
currently
centralizedly
hosted
on
aws.
Okay,
we
do
want
to
get
to
being
able
to
store
the
actual
content
itself
on
either
ipfs
or
ceramic.
I
think
we,
I
think
part
of
the
challenge
is
somewhat
some
of
the
more
advanced
functionality
that
we
can
get
to
like
collaborative
collaborative
editing
stuff
like
that
that
we
don't
have
the
technology
yet
to
to
get
there
in
a
decentralized
way.
E
B
E
Well,
my
my
my
I
am
very
open
on
social,
so
you
can
look
me
up
on
linkedin.
So
personally,
I
am
a
three-time
entrepreneur,
a
web
3
founder
my
past
two
companies
have
been
in
the
big
data
machine
learning
space
first,
one
in
a
sas
business
selling
to
the
publishers
and
then
second
one
was
a
company
called
x,
dot
ai,
which
we
built
a
meeting,
scheduling
bot
that
help
you
schedule
meetings
over
email,
yeah
both
for
those
companies
were
exited.
E
E
And
a
little
bit
about
our
company,
we
yeah,
we
are
a
c
corp
that
looking
to
transition
into
a
dow
sometime
this
year,
we
we
are
angel,
slash
vc,
back
we're
in
the
middle
raising
a
round
of
seed
fund,
but
we
already
raised
some
money
already
we
came
out
of
the
alliance
style.
I
think
that's
how
we
got
connected
initially.
So
we
are
part
of
the
alliance
styles
latest
batch
of
companies,
so
yeah
allianz
orange
now
and
some
of
the
other
have
invested
in
us.
So
far,.
B
All
right,
that's
pretty
cool,
so
I
I
guess
you
know
we
have
the
expenders,
which
is
sort
of
the
kind
of
venture
arm
of
the
extel,
where
just
like.
Generally,
we
essentially
give
grants
which
could
also
be
looked
at.
As
you
know,
investments
four
projects
that
we
are
using
and
and
working
with
and.
F
B
Think,
like
this
is
in
general,
just
like
right
down
our
alley.
Usually
our
checks
are
are
like
100k
and
yeah.
I
mean
this
is
this
is
look.
This
looks
super
interesting.
I
think
we've
experimented
with
various
different
things
from
d-work
to
what's
that
one
thing
was,
which
was
also
decentralized
notion,
can't
remember,
but
we've
experimented
with
many
different
sort
of
like
projects
in
the
space
so
yeah.
This
is
pretty
cool.
B
E
About
this
right,
yes,
so
yes,
guy
and
I
have
been
going
back
and
forth
on
on
telegram
earlier
yeah,
okay,
yeah.
I
The
product
was
awesome
when
we
were
talking
about
like
the
future,
where,
if
there's
a
this
product,
is
you
know
being
used
by
a
dow
community
at
the
really
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
want
the
dow
to
be
basically
able
to
own
the
main
account
and
like
buy
a
permissioning
of
proposal
and
stuff
like
delegate
admin,
access
and
stuff
to
to
different
contributors
and
stuff
and
be
able
to
take
that
away,
and
that's
something
that
yeah
alex
says
you
know
he's
aware
of,
and
this
is
something
that,
like
many
of
these
products
that
are
building
for
dows
need
to
solve
to
be
really
a
dow
dab.
I
I
think,
but
this
like
as
a
product
yeah
and
with
a
plan
to
become
you
know.
Most
of
these
things
are
becoming
more
decentralized,
but
we,
as
a
community,
can
really
yeah
give
good
usage
and
feedback
for
a
product
like
this,
and
if
especially,
if
we
can
start
using
it
for
for
real
needs,
and
then
we
can
help
you
develop
it
and
like
help
create
the
path
to
figure
out
what
dow's
like
what
a
doubt
actually
needs
in
the
end
of
the
day
and
we'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
Yeah.
B
Yeah,
like
it's
sort
of
like
to
continue
this,
it's
sort
of
like
we
are
design
partners
of
you
know
the
startups
that
we
invest
in
so
yeah.
I
think
this
is.
This
is
something
I
don't
know.
This
looks
really
interesting
to
me
and
and
yeah
like
you
know,
if
you
plan
to
build
this
with
dallas,
then
your
chances
of
success
increase,
in
my
opinion,
so
yeah.
E
Yeah,
that
means
for
sure
that
we
are
extremely
excited
to
to
work
with
the
exhaust
on
both
as
a
customer
as
an
investor,
and
I
yeah
I'm
a
big
believer
in
aligning
interests
and-
and
I
think
we
share
a
similar
view
of
how
the
world
should
be,
and
I
would
love
the
opportunity
to
work.
I
E
That
was
just
an
example.
We
do
plan
to
launch
a
charm
token
sometime
this
year,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
closer
to
the
product
market
before
putting
a
token
out
there.
But
that's
only
on
in
our
plans.
I
B
Yeah,
so
that's
pretty
cool,
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
has
any
other
questions
personally,
I'd
like
to
like,
what's
the
next
step,
if
we
want
to
start
using
this.
E
So
I
think
I
stupid
send
over
sends
guy
over
a
log
in
but
yeah
you,
the
tools
are
available
to
you.
I
can,
if
you
let
me
know
where
to
share
a
link.
I
will
have
to
share
that
link
and
you
can
just
get
started,
create
a
workspace
for
follow
down.
B
Yeah,
so
we
usually
create
like
a
telegram
group.
That's
shared,
I
think
telegram,
is
the
easiest,
so
target
group
that's
shared
between
yeah,
some
of
the
folks
in
these
dao
and
and
yeah
the
team.
Then
we
usually
coordinate
there.
B
E
B
Yeah
super
cool,
yeah
and
interesting
to
see
this
like
develop
yeah.
I
guess
the
next
topic.
Sorry
does
anyone
else
have
any
questions
or.
F
B
All
right,
then,
the
next
topic
is
the
agave
option
to
recapitalize
agave
after
you
know
the
exploit
that
happened
just
about
over
a
week
ago.
This
is
the
discussion
in
the
forums
chris.
Do
you
wanna,
take
us
away.
G
Sure
so
people
have
probably
been
aware
of
the
agave
exploit
that
happened.
I
think
it
was
about
10
days
ago
now.
Maybe
some
people
even
had
some
some
funds
on
there.
So
there
was
a
post
from
the
agave
team
on
friday
about
a
refund
plan
or,
I
guess,
a
recapitalization
plan.
G
There
was
also
a
post
in
the
gnosis
forum
by
hundred
finance,
which
was
in
a
was
similarly
exploited
in
in
a
similar
attack,
so
they
are
both
first
and
foremost
like
applying
or
looking
for
gnosis
dow
to
provide
some
compensation.
G
I
think
part
of
this
is
because
there
are
some
things
that
were
specific
to
gnosis
chain
or
the
bridge
itself,
which
were
kind
of
some
of
the
reasons
for
that,
so
they
have
a
compensation
plan
through
them
and
then
agave
is
also
looking
to
do
a
capital
raise
to
pay
off
the
remaining
refunds.
So
they
had
a
post
in
the
gnosis
forum
said
that,
in
addition
to
the
compensation
they're
looking
to
get
from
gnosis,
some
of
that
they're
also
looking
to
do
an
auction
sale
for
25,
000,
agave
tokens.
G
So
right
now
there's
a
hundred
k,
agave
tokens
30
about
30
000
of
those
are
the
circulating
supply
and
then
the
70k
is
locked
up
in
the
treasury,
so
this
sale
would
come
from
the
treasury,
and
so
it
would
sell
agave
tokens
from
the
treasury
in
return.
I
think
most
I
think,
dollars
whatever
they
would
raise.
That
would
first
and
foremost
be
used
to
pay
off
the
depositors
who
lost
money
and
then
potentially
also
be
used
to
like
capitalize
and
fund
agave
development.
G
G
I
think
this
is
a
pretty
good
opportunity
for,
for
a
couple
reasons:
agave's
still
pretty
low
market
cap
token.
I'd
actually
haven't
checked
the
last
couple
days
because
it
has
been
on
the
move.
But
it's
still
you
know.
The
circulating
market
cap
is
around
two
and
a
half
million,
and
I
think
fully
diluted
is
like
9
million
or
10
million,
which
is
pretty
small
for
a
lending
protocol.
I
kind
of
put
this
in
the
swapper
bucket
too,
of
where
you
know.
G
One
of
the
a
real
product
that
has
some
traction
is
really
necessarily
getting
those
market
caps
reflected
in
that
again
also
like
things
changed
in
the
last
couple
days,
because
we've
seen
some
price
movement
there,
but
I
also
think
there's
a
benefit
to
deekstyle's
product
suite
if
it
can
further
integrate
a
lending
protocol,
so
we
are
lending
you
think
of
what
is
finance
or
what
is
like
d5,
it's
pretty
much
like
swapping
and
lending
right
trading
and
lending
or
core
components.
G
So
dx,
dow
and
we've
always
talked
about
building
d5
suite,
whether
this
is
aqua
or
even
the
dxgov,
how
we
build
a
governance
platform,
but
then
they're
using
the
d5
products
like
a
lending
protocol,
is
a
really
important,
crucial
aspect
to
that.
Now
this
would
not.
I
don't
think
this
should
never
be
like
it's
like
they
like
swapper
or
the
other
products
that
are
like
really
deep
style
products,
but
maybe
there's
a
way
if
geek
style
has
a
large
enough
stake
of
agave
where
kind
of
further
integration
occurs.
G
G
That
is
not
earning
any
yield
now
and
could
go
into
lending
protocol,
but
you
know
with
deep
style
as
a
you
know,
I
think
it
should
be
thinking
strategically
or
it's
just
the
strategic
goals
on
what
it
means
to
do
in
the
on
the
strategic
goals
it
can
achieve
with
it's
it's
like
treasury,
and
then
I
also
think
this
is
an
opportunity
to
maybe
develop
a
closer
relationship
with
gnosis.
G
I
mean
we've
just
had
like
we're
still
in
the
middle
of
this
cow
launch,
which
I
I
think
is
is
is
a
really
great
option
for
swapper.
There's
a
lot
of
activity,
lots
of
excitement
and
I
think
there
are
going
to
be
some
other
opportunities
on
gnosis
chain
going
forward,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
would
be
appealing
to
deke
style
in
this
would
be
it
wouldn't
just
be
dx.
G
Dow,
that's
a
stakeholder
in
agave
gnosis
is
gonna,
is
basically
providing
like
a
floor
plate
price
for
the
auction,
and
so
they
are
likely
to
have
a
pretty
significant
stake
of
agave,
and
I
think,
if
you
have
those
stakeholders
aligned
around
like
a
lending
protocol
on
gnosis,
chaining,
meaning
deek
style
gnosis
and
the
agave
community,
I
think
that's
a
good
opportunity
to
grow
that
ecosystem
and
yeah.
So
I
think
knows
it.
G
I
mean
obviously
knows
this
has
a
as
a
bigger
tragedy
than
dx
dow
and
also
does
not
have
that
kind
of
lending
protocol
that
it
uses
in
that.
So
maybe
there's
some
things
that
can
be
done
with
agave
once
gnosis
has
a
steak.
I
guess,
like
the
question
is
like
what
does
this
look
like?
As
I
said,
they
were
selling
25
000
agave
tokens.
So
this
is
a
dutch
auction.
I
don't!
I
guess
we
don't
have
any
dutch
here,
maybe
we
can
in
amsterdam
we'll
be
chatting
about.
G
I
think
so
the
dutch
auction
it.
Basically
everybody
ends
up
paying
the
same
price,
which
is
the
lowest
bid,
that's
accepted.
So
if
everyone
bids,
if
someone
bids
a
hundred
dollars
and
then
someone
bids
120,
if
the
price
is
100
in
the
end,
the
person
that
bids
120
actually
just
pays
100.
G
But
if
the
price
is
110,
then
that
person
that
100
is
actually
is
like
left
out.
So
there
will
be
a
price
that
gnosis
sets
as
like
the
floor,
I
think
it'll
be
like
110
120
or
something
like
that
and
so
theoretic,
basically
dx
dow,
I
think
bid
above
the
floor.
G
That
gnosis
is,
is
setting
there's
a
pretty
good
chance
that
it
would
get
all
of
those,
presumably
maybe
even
at
the
price
that
gnosis
is
setting
the
floor
at
just
because
I
don't
know
if
there's
going
to
be
that
many
other
people
participating
in
that.
So
that
could
be
something
like
a
750
000
investment,
which
would
be
maybe
10
percent
of
agave
circulating
supply
after
the
new
missions.
G
So
that
would
be
maybe
like
six
thousand
six
seven
thousand
agave
tokens
out
of
the
total
100k
token
supply,
but
after
the
25k
have
sold,
that
would
be
like
a
60,
000,
60
000
token
supply,
so
that
would
be
about
10,
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
maybe
where
there's
an
opportunity,
we
could
talk
about
whether
that
makes
sense
to
do
more.
We'd
do
less,
but
I
think
this
is
where
the
discussion
is
now
there's
a
whole
lot
to
still
be
figured
out.
G
I
think,
if
you
look
at
the
post
in
the
gnosis
forum
from
agave,
it
kind
of
it
indicates
that
there's
a
plan
that
will
be
worked
out
but,
like
you,
don't
really
get
a
clear
idea
of
what
that
plan
is
from
reading
that,
I
think
there's
like
concerns
on,
like
literally
how
do
you
restart
the
lending
protocol
right
like
how
does
how
do
things
just
kind
of
go
back
to
the
way?
How
are
things
actually
just
paid
off?
There's
also,
I
think,
questions
on
exactly
how
the
auction
runs.
G
There's
not
like
a
specific
time
for
it
yet
or
how
that
will
kind
of
work.
There
are
some
other
kind
of
maybe
like
concerns
about
like
the
kind
of
the
agaves
governance
structure
or
like
if
you're
buying
agave
tokens,
maybe
there's
a
good
opportunity
that
this
is
like
an
undervalued
asset
but
is
like
the
team
and
community
running.
Are
they
in
the
position
to
like
execute
on
a
vision
on
a
road
map
who
is
kind
of
driving
these
things?
G
So
I
know
we
know
a
lot
of
people
in
the
agave
community
and
there's
some
some
overlap
there,
but
figuring
out
how
exactly
like
you
know
if
they
do
sell
a
bunch
of
agave
to
raise
money
like
who's
in
charge
of
spending
that
money
and
how
are
they
gonna
spend
it.
So
I
think
there's
still
some
questions
there,
but
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
geek
style
to
at
least
seriously
consider
it
and
be
following
along
and
given
that
this
would
be
like
a
huge
like
chunk
of
change.
G
B
J
B
I
would
feel
like
in
these
cases,
sometimes
it's
yeah
it
becomes
like.
I
don't
know,
someone
manages
to
exploit
the
whole
thing
and
gets
like
all
of
it.
I
don't
know,
but
yeah,
let's
see
how
this
pans
out.
I
mean
this
is
an
interesting
mechanism.
I
I
is
it
the
first
time
that
they're
doing
like
this
dutch
auction
or
is
it
based
on
like.
I
That
guys,
because
this
is
gnosis
auction,
this
is
what
came
from
you
know
when
we
were
doing
gpv
one
using
mesa.
This
is
how
all
the
ideas
were
being
sold
and
then
they
made
gnosis
auction
and
we
were
making
our
own
version
right,
and
this
is
this
is
this:
is
the
product
that
came
out
of
that
right
and
and
the
the
the
whole
point
of
no
suction
is
that
it
doesn't
have
the
same
problems
that
the
batches
of
of
gpv
one
had,
and
it's
all
one
big
batch.
I
B
Interesting,
that's
pretty
cool!
So
what's
so,
what's
the
feeling
here
you.
F
No,
I
I'm
saying
earlier
we
explained
what
a
dutch
auction
is,
but
if,
if
this
will
be
happening
on
gnosis
auction,
it's
different
from
a
dutch
option.
G
I
don't
think
it's
super
rel
or
like
important
for
probably
decision
on
like
how
the
auction
is
structured,
maybe
on
how
we
actually
execute
it,
but
I
think,
like
gnosis
is
gonna,
there's
gonna
be
like
a
floor
basically
or
yeah.
I.
I
G
G
H
Yeah
and
on
the
on
the
actual
deal
part,
I
I
think,
like
one
of
the
most
important
things
here
is
like
the
team
itself.
Right,
like,
I
think,
a
lot
of
things
kind
of
boil
down
to
the
people
behind
it,
that's
going
to
influence
how
the
product
does
going
forward.
So
yeah
I've
been
trying
to
talk
with
the
agave
team
and
to
give
people
like
some
idea
of
what
that
looks
like
it's.
H
H
H
The
the
team
is
it's
it's
stunky
and
monstrosity,
doing
like
marketing
and
biz
dev,
and
then
on
the
development
side.
It's
luigi,
who
I
think
most
of
us
are
familiar
with
and
then
annie
and
zoe
are
the
other
two
and
yeah
they
the
way
agave
launched.
H
They
gave
a
thousand
agave,
which
is
one
percent
of
total
supply,
and
I
think,
like
of
yeah,
so
like
trolls
points
like
a
hundred
thousand
current
like
circulating
supplies
about
30
000,
and
they
gave
out
like
a
thousand
investing
to
like
a
group
of
initial
people
that
they
called
the
seeds
and,
like,
I
think,
annie
and
monstrosity
were
both
amongst
that
group.
So
they
had
their
like
original
stake.
I
think
luigi
and
zoe,
actually
just
kind
of
got
involved
later,
like
as
the
product
was
getting
developed
and
yeah.
H
So
like
one
of
the
things
trying
to
understand
too,
is
like
what
their
plans
are
going
forward
and
then
also
trying
to
understand
like
what
the
commitment
of
the
team
is
going
forward
and
they
all
seem
very
like
committed
into
like
into
agave,
and
they
seem
to,
like
you
know,
be
smart
people
that,
like
working
with
each
other
but
annie
and
zoe,
have
full-time
jobs.
That,
like
you
know,
I
think,
from
what
I
hear
are
like
you
know:
tech
jobs
in
the
us,
so
they
they're
making
probably
very
healthy
salaries.
H
Out
now-
and
I
I've
had
a
long
conversation
with
luigi
over
the
weekend
and
their
roadmap
is
interesting.
H
H
I
don't
know
how
much
I
should
say
on
a
recorded
call,
because
I
don't
know
if
they
want
it
to
be
public
or
not,
but
I
have
I've
gotten
a
sense
from
luigi
about
what
they're
they're
thinking-
and
I
guess
I
can-
I
guess
for
now,
until
I
kind
of
clarify
that
maybe
I'll
just
share
that
to
people
kind
of
selectively
who
are
interested
but
but
they
have
like
stuff,
they
want
to
build
kind
of
beyond
the
core
lending
protocol,
but
yeah.
H
B
H
There
were
a
couple
of
seeds
that
had
a
thousand
you
know
same
deal,
they
got
the
thousand
agave
investing,
I
think
over
a
year,
and
a
couple
of
them
were
not
very
active
and
ended
up
having
like
the
remainder
of
their
tokens
like
clawed
back,
but
I
think
they
still
got
most
of
their
their
initial
tokens.
B
Yeah
yeah,
I
think
nathan,
is
mentioning
that
you
know
if
we
are
buying.
It's
us
selling
eve.
I
think
you
know.
Obviously
it's
us
investing
in
something
that
is
a
non
yeah.
I
guess
maybe
we
could
look
at
this
from
like
a
sort
of
like
a
dx
ventures
perspective
and
then
you
know
we're
essentially
investing
in
agave
and
then.
G
B
Yeah
I
mean
this
could
come
out
of
sort
of
the
the
adventures
thing
and
then
you
know,
if
that's
the
case,
we
have
a
structured
list
of
questions
and
things
that
we're
looking
for
so
you
know,
maybe
it
would
be
good
to
at
least
you
know
start
answering
some
of
the
questions
that
we
have
there
and
then
figure
out
if
this
is
a
viable
sort
of
like
way
forward.
H
Yeah
yeah,
so
I
think
you'll
try
to
bring
as
much
of
it
public
as
possible
in
as
short
a
time
frame
as
as
possible
it.
You
know
it
kind
of
started
out
with
chris
dave,
and
I
just
talking
together
and
connecting
with
like
some
of
the
agave
folks,
and
then
we
try
to
include
a
few
others
just
to
get
some
validation
before
bringing
things
like
kind
of
to
the
community
but
yeah.
H
I
think
that
that
dow
talk
forum,
kind
of
summarizes,
where
we
were
at
the
end
of
last
week
and
I'll
try
to
work
on
getting
some
more
information
from
their
team
as
to
like
the
plans
going
forward
and
what
the
team
is
going
to
look.
Like
the
other
thing
I'd
like
to
see-
and
I
think
this
is
just
kind
of
something
that
they
will
need
to
publish
regardless-
is
a
clear
technical
plan
on
the
restarting
of
the
protocol,
because
I
think
it's
going
to
involve
potentially
like
a
redeployment
like
there's
a
few
things.
H
They
need
to
account,
for
you
know
the
lost
funds,
kind
of
being
one
of
the
main
ones.
The
fact
that
the
market
has
moved
since
the
hack
complicates
things
a
little
bit
and
also
the
fact
that
the
like
protocol,
even
though
it's
paused
is
still
like
getting
interest
from
like
the
balances
that
have
been
loaned
out
and
stuff.
So
they
have
to
figure
out
how
they're
going
to
restart
this
thing,
and
I
mean
I
think
it
needs
to
happen
after
a
hard
fork
of
the
gnosis
chain
too.
H
So,
like
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
time
before
this
actually
happens,
because
that
that's
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time
but
yeah.
So
two
key
things.
I'm
looking
for,
like
yeah
technical
plan
on
the
restart
and
like
kind
of
road
map
team
plan
from
from
the
team-
and
I
think
those
should
be
things
that
everybody
can
can
see
through
the
forum
and
wherever
it's
posted.
B
Yeah
awesome
so
yeah,
you
know
exciting,
to
see
like
this
conversation
follow.
B
Yeah-
and
I
think
I
there's
a
quick
discussion
like
in
the
in
the
chat
about
sort
of
like
these
ventures
and
stuff
like
that,
but
yeah.
I
think
this
is
exciting
and
you
know
let's
continue
the
conversation
in
the
in
the
forum
and
yeah
like
many
questions,
and
I
think
some
I
mean
luigi
is
obviously
sort
of
like
a
d
style
member
as
well
and
and
yeah.
I
guess
we
want
to
support
some
people
who
are
sort
of
like
a
line
have
similar
aligned
interests
with
us,
so
yeah.
B
That's
that
so
yeah.
Maybe
on
the
next
topic
we
just
have
yeah
under
dx
events,
the
whole
shenanigans
around
the
dev
connect
and
east
amsterdam,
so
yeah
there's
a
special
activation
for
the
taoist
in
amsterdam
sky.
Are
you
here?
Do
you
want
to
talk
about
this.
I
Yeah,
yes,
we're
I
mean
there's
a
bunch
of
different
moving
parts,
but
we're
we've
been
discussing
most
recently
like
what
dx
dao
would
like
to
talk
about
in
talks
and
workshops
and
that's
at
the
the
taoist
ggg
event,
but
then
also
at
shelling
point
making
sure
that
what
we
choose
and
who
we
choose
is
kind
of
promotes
the
things
that
dxdow
is
doing
without
necessarily
like
shilling,
dx,
dao
and
its
products.
So
there's
interesting
ideas
around
that.
I
That's
coming
together,
quite
yeah
right
now
for
for
the
events,
and
then
on
top
of
that
we
have
the
activation,
which
we
were
discussing:
a
cool,
some
cool
new
ideas
to
stand
out
and
get
people
to
remember,
dx
dao
for
the
ggg
event,
and
then
we
also
have
a
an
interesting
idea
around
dx
voice,
well
in
social
media
and
kind
of
community,
following
maybe
related
to
twitter,
using
a
carrot
in
an
activation
campaign.
I
You
know
cut
like
yeah
one-on-one
handing
those
out
to
people
in
person
in
during
east
amsterdam
week
and
seeing
if
that
can
actually
actually
drive
the
physical
behavior
of
people,
which
is
a
cool
new
use
case
of
of
something
like
carrot.
That
hasn't
been
done
before
so
lots
of
different
ideas
there
and,
if
there's
other
interesting
things
that
people
come
up
with.
Please
share
those
as
well.
B
Awesome
so
yeah,
I
guess
we've
talked
about
most
everything.
I
guess
we
can
end
this
a
little
bit
early.
If
anyone
has
any
other
things
they
want
to
talk
about
or
we
could.
I
just
stopped
the
recording
and
talk
about
swapper.