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C
Yeah,
so
hey
hello,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
monday
september,
13
2021,
the
excel
business
call
and
yeah
on
the
business
call.
Today.
First,
we
have
our
tion.
Am
I
that's
correct,
right,
ayertom
from
index
co-op,
who
will
talk
about
basically
a
big
style
and
treasury
diversification
to
the
bed
index?
Under
the
experience
discussions
we
have
arbitrary
swapper,
and
you
know
some
of
the
next
steps,
farming
and
like
ebook
strategy,
we
have
a
follow-up
on
hats.
C
That's
the
the
proposal
for
a
grant
is
about
to
pass.
I
believe.
The
exhaust
multi-chain
diagnosis
safe
carrot,
some
interesting
plan
that
we've
been
like
the
dx
biz
team
has
been
discussing
and
dx
vote
discussions
under
events
we
have,
I
guess
john
and
skye-
are
in
mcon.
C
We
have
this.
The
dx
events
proposal
that
has
passed
maynet
is
happening
like
later
this
week
in
nyc,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
coming
to
flisman
and
we
have
a
couple
of
things
before
that
as
well
and
yeah.
I
think
that's
it
yeah.
So
iarten
do
you
wanna
start.
D
Yeah,
so
again
my
apologies
for
the
abrupt.
You
know
start
that
I
gave
I
should
have
like.
You
know,
waited
a
little
bit
but
other
than
that.
Thank
you
all
again
so
much
for
having
me
on
this
call.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
am
actually
part
of
on
banquet
style,
so
I
work
for
the
analytics
dom
guild
and
I
also
work
alongside
with
index
co-op
and
their
treasury
team,
along
with
their
institutional
on
business
development
team
as
well.
D
D
I
don't
know
what
your
guys
range
is.
Typically,
we
try
and
shoot
for
the
range
of
like
you
know:
100
000,
it's
like
a
million,
so
that's
the
current
range
that
just
wanted
to
get
a
sense
of
what?
How
much
are
you
guys
looking
to
mint
that
would,
I
guess,
fed
your
guys
on
treasury
budget.
C
E
Okay,
okay,
yeah,
I
mean
you
can
see
if,
if
you
look
at
the
treasury
on
ether
skin,
I
think
the
ether
value
is
currently
at.
Like
45
million,
there
has
been
some
already
established:
diversification
efforts
into
stable
coins
and
there's
about
you,
know
two
million
dollars
of
usdc,
like
I
think,
like
a
million
of
a
couple
other
stable
coins.
So
that
might
give
you
some
sense
of
gotcha
scale
that
we're
operating
at
yeah.
D
Okay,
awesome
yeah!
No!
Thank
you.
If
you
could,
could
you
send
me
that
ether
scan
link
so
that
way.
F
I
could
right
now.
D
So,
if
you
look
so
the
name
kind
of
like
applies
itself
right.
It's
33,
bitcoin,
33
ease
and
33
of
the
d5
pulse
index,
and
so
with
that
being
said,
the
bed
index
is
maintained
through
a
determination
phase
where
the
determination
phase
takes
place
during
the
fourth
week
of
the
month,
and
it
is
the
phase
when
the
change
is
needed
for
the
next
reconstitution
are
determined
and
the
reconstitution
phase
is
again
the
second
phase,
where
we
are
looking
at
the
publication
of
the
determination
phase
outcome.
D
The
index
composition
will
change
to
the
new
waste
on
the
first
friday
of
the
following
month,
so
the
components
will
be
added
or
removed.
That's
how
the
bed
index
is
maintained.
D
I
don't
know
if
arhat
had
shared
you
guys.
The
proposal
document
that
I
had
sent
to
him,
but
there
are
some
other
important
benefits
to
this.
Is
that
number
one
it
was
audited
twice.
The
smart
contract
was
audited
twice
by
open
zeppelin
and
that
there
is
no
governance
rights.
In
fact,
the
governance
risk
is
very
similar
to
the
dpi
index
and
thirdly,
the
other
benefit
that
you
have
with
treasury.
Diversification
with
banquet
style
is
that
we
have
a.
We
have
a
huge
social
capital.
D
We
have
about
75
000
twitter
followers.
We
have
about
70
000
youtube
subscribers,
so
we
are
growing
exponentially.
We
just
had
a
podcast
with
kathy
wood
from
arc
investments.
Ceo
we've
also
had
guests
like
mark
cuban
vitalik
buterin.
D
We've
also
had
a
nap
hayden
adams,
jos,
joseph
rosenthal,
so
there
is
a
huge
social
capital
and
branding
that
can
be
utilized
with
this
treasury
diversification
and
the
bankwood
style
team
could
more
than
happy
do
a
marketing
campaign
on
with
dxdow
to
further
spread
the
awareness,
as
well
as
also
look
at
products
that
we
could
also
mention
on
the
marketing
campaign.
E
Any
questions
awesome
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
mean
I,
I
see
how
this
would
be
a
great
tool,
for
you
know
allowing
good
access
to
this
like
diversified
like
set
of
goods
right
like
index
of
tokens,
so
the
dx
down
treasury
is
predominantly
in
ether
already,
so
I
guess
the
diversification
would
be.
D
Right
and
again,
I
think
the
other
thing
I
want
to
mention,
too,
is
that,
like
you
said
like
this
is
all
about
diversification
right.
So
the
one
thing
you
gotta
look
at
is
that,
yes,
there
is
bitcoin
in
it,
but
the
thing
is
is
that
if
you
are
a
very
well
diverse
like
treasury,
you
would
have
btc
in
your
treasury
and
if
you
already
have
eth
and
if
you
already
have
dpi
those
are
already
the
composites
you
just
swap
it.
For
you
know:
bed
and
there
you
go.
D
You
have
an
index
fund
within
index
fund
because
the
d5,
because
the
dpi
pulse
is
made
up
of
20
different
like
index
funds.
I
think
it's
almost
looks
like
16
out
too.
So
there's
a
lot
of
benefits
with
this.
You
have
the
index
co-op
name,
and
then
you
also
have,
like
you
know,
ether
as
on
par,
that
index
fund.
G
G
Like
individual
people,
it's
a
good
way
for
people
to
kind
of
easily
get
crypto
exposure
like
as
a
as
a
person
when
they're
like
entering
this
space
for
the
first
time
kind
of
thing,
rather
yeah
institutional
management,
product.
D
Yeah
no
absolutely
like
this
is
the
whole
like
reason
why
the
product
was
made
to
begin
with
right,
it's
you're,
looking
at
like
some
of
the
top
three
like
you
know,
assets
in
the
space,
so
somebody
who's
looking
at
it
from
a
retirement
standpoint,
is
also
willing
to
get
into
the
crypto
space
very
easily,
most
people
when
they
look
at
like
retirements.
They
want
to
look
at
index
funds
right
because
you
want
to
invest
over
the
next
like
20
to
40
years.
So
this
is
those
ass.
This
is
that
asset.
D
D
D
So
that's
the
really
beautiful
benefit
of
this
right
is
that
we
just
ran
a
gleam
campaign
where
we
had
1
000
people
like
you,
know,
swapped
for
bed
swap
for
bed
tokens
and
they
even
minted.
So,
there's
a
lot
of
added
benefits
to
this
being
a
very
easily
consumer
based
product
right.
It's
like
it's
not
meant
for,
like
you
know,
oh,
like
you
know,
like
the
hedge
funds,
to
begin
with.
D
No,
this
was
like
mainly
purposely
for
the
consumer
and
again
based
off
of
network
effects
is
when
you
have
more
and
more
people
adopt
this
token.
That's
there
that's
the
organic
growth
and
that's
when
the
institutional
investors
come
in
later,
but
by
the
time
the
institutional
investors
come
in
later.
The
consumers
have
already
built.
G
This
organic
network,
yeah
cool,
so
the
we're
like
quite
I'm,
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
bed
index
and
and
bankless
community
we've
recently
launched
swapper
on
arbitrom,
so
bed
token
index
as
like
a
treasury
management
thing
for
dx.
Dow
makes
probably
less
sense
for,
like
the
reason
john
said,
we
kind
of
have
a
lot
of
eth.
We
already
are
exposed
to
d5
and
we
have
we
can
have
btc,
but
the
really
interesting
thing
would
be
to
like
help.
G
So
we
actually
did
a
swapper
token
drop
to
like
key
members
of
the
bankless
like
governance
community.
Like
you,
you
probably
have
swapper
token.
If
you
check
it
out
whatever
what
would
be
really
cool
is
to
basically
help
bring
bvi
as
a
token
to
become
like
a
really
solid
pool
on
arbitrome,
because
you've
seen
arbitrary
now
has
two
billion
dollars
on
it.
I
don't
yeah
guys,
probably
or
sorry,
not
pdi.
G
Bed
index
is
probably
there
yet,
but
we
could
use
swapper
to
basically
help
build
up
like
bed
presence
on
arbitrary
and
incentivize
those
pools
with
swapper
token,
and
I
think
it's
a
great
product
for
like
the
regular
person
to
hold
for
sure,
especially
like
newcomers
and
like
it
would
be
awesome
to
do
more
with
bankless
and
the
the
products
that
bank
list
has
influenced.
So
that
would
be.
That
would
be
my
interest.
Think
like
most
interesting
thing
to
do.
G
We,
like,
obviously
we
could,
we
could
buy
some
bed
index
in
order
to
also
put
our
own
capital
into
that
pool,
and
then
even
do
that,
maybe
with
bank
list.
If
you
guys
wanted
to
also
put
in
capital
to
that
pool,
and
then
we
could
also
incentivized
it
and
have
it
become
a
really
big,
important
pool
on
swapper
on
arbitrome,
which
would
that
would
be
a
cool
idea
to
explore.
I
think.
D
Yeah
and
that's
definitely
that's
definitely
a
great,
like
you
know
idea,
I
can,
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
familiar
with
lucas
campbell.
He
is
an
editor
for
the
bankwest
hq
team
and
he
this
is
his
like.
You
know
product,
so
I
would
more
than
happily
propose
that
idea.
If
we
could
again,
like
you
know,
speak
after
this
call
yeah.
What
was
your
name
that
you.
C
Usually
the
next
step
would
be
to
open,
like
a
telegram
group,
with
a
couple
of
people
interested
in
leaving
this
from,
like
the
big
style
side-
and
you
know
the
bed
index
side
yeah
and
I
just
want
to
say
I'm,
I'm
not
sure.
I
fully
agree
with
you
know
no
diversification
like
that.
It
doesn't
make
sense
to
diversify.
I
think,
like
both
things
are,
like
you
know,
valuable
and
I
think
yeah
like.
I
would
like
to
see
some.
C
You
know
bitcoin
exposure
inside
like
the
excel
but
yeah
like
so
we
could
probably
like
you
know
this
would
probably
be
a
proposal.
I
think
dave
here
is
sort
of
like
responsible
for
the
treasury
diversification
proposals
and
yeah,
like
I'm.
I'm
personally
like
I
would
vote
for
buying
and
you
know
holding
bed
index
strictly
for
black
treasury
diversification.
C
E
E
And
and
wbtc
yeah
yeah,
and
so
so
it
sort
of
just
doesn't
really
make
sense
to
use
bed
for
for
a
treasury.
That's
already
got
exposure
to
the
underlying
assets.
It's
like
adding!
Not
that
I'd.
Be
that
worried
about
it.
Like
you
said
you
have
the
audits
and
stuff,
but
if
you're
in
the
position
of
doing
the
treasury
management,
dave
is
actually
kind
of
leading
that
effort
he
just
joined
you.
E
Is
to
try
to
be
conservative
on,
unlike
you
know,
different
dimensions
of
risk,
and
why
would
you
add
additional
smart
contract
exposure
when
it
actually
doesn't
give
you
access
to
do
new
assets
so,
but
but,
like
skye
said
like
we
can
really
appreciate
the
consumer
angle
of
of
the
bad
index
and
I
think,
there's
some
other
synergy
that
could
could
work
with
the
external
there.
H
D
Again,
like
I'm
a
little
bit
like
biased,
like
you
know,
to
the
bed
to
the
bed
index
because
again
it
rebalances,
and
it
also
has,
like
you
know
the
rebound
the
re
bouncing
of
the
weight
of
the
assets
so
like
you
don't
have
to
like.
I
understand,
though
you
guys
have
the
underlying
assets,
but
the,
but
that's
the
whole
purpose
of
the
index
fund
raise
like
it.
Rebalances,
like
you
know,
every
month,
right
like
like
people,
don't
have
to
like
worry
about
it.
So
I
see
your
point
with
the
like
underlying
assets.
G
So
the
one
thing
is,
if
you're,
only
holding
like
300
000
of
the
bed
index
or
like
500
000
or
even
a
million
as
a
part
of
the
treasury,
which
is
90
million
dollars,
rebalancing
one
percent
or,
like
you
know,
three
percent
of
a
90
million
dollar
treasury
to
one
third
one.
Third,
one
third
of
assets
that
you
already
have
like
the
rebalancing,
basically
doesn't
matter
anymore.
That's
the
one
thing.
G
D
So
I
see
your
point
in
terms
of
like
the
effect
that
would
have,
but
I
still
do
believe
that,
like
it
still
makes
a
difference-
and
I
think,
like
you
know
just
even
having
that
one
percent
right
sky-
it's
like
if
you
have
that
one
percent
and
you
have
like
you-
know
investors
or
like
people
like
you
know
in
your
community
that
see
that
you
have
the
bet
index
zone.
That
kind
of
may
spark,
like
you,
know,
an
opportunity
for
your
consumers
or
for
your,
like.
D
You
know,
community
members
to
get
into
the
to
get
into
that
index
themselves
because
you're
like
hey,
like
you
know,
if
the
protocol
already
has
it-
and
I
would
also
actually
add
that
when
we
look
at
the
bet
index
compared
to
dpi
eth
and
btc
dpi,
the
bed
index
actually
performed
three
percent
better
than
all
the
assets
over
that
same
time
frame.
If
not,
if
not
higher,
at
a
five
percent.
F
They're
typically
sourcing
a
lot
of
the
liquidity
on
that
yep
themselves,
but
they
don't
hurt.
There's
not
like
the
protocol
itself
earns.
G
Fees
from
that,
but
it
goes
back
to
that
either
way
like
yeah.
We
for
sure
we
should
focus.
I
think
we
should
do
something
with
bed
and
I
think,
having
a
big
pool,
and
this
could
be
on
main
net.
This
could
be
on.
I
don't
know
where
your
biggest
pools
are
right
now,
but
probably
not
on
arbitrary,
and
if
arbitrary
is
like
exciting
to
the
bankless
community,
we
could
help
bring
the
bed
index
to
arbitrarily,
and
I
think
that
would
get
a
lot
of
recognition.
Yeah.
E
Yeah
and
first
I
would
say
that
the
dx
down
treasury
has
sort
of
a
dual
purpose,
like
obviously
the
main
one
is
to
fund
development,
and
that's
why
diversification
is
important
for
stability
over
the
long
run,
but
the
other
important
aspect
of
the
dxdo
treasury
is
also
to
support
the
external
products
with
liquidity
from
the
treasury.
E
So
you
mentioned
rebalancing
so
the
dpi
and
wbtc
that
the
excel
already
has
a
decent
portion
of
that
is
actually
in
dxdow's
dex
swapper.
So
we're
actually
already
doing
effectively
this
rebalancing
that
you're
talking
about
through
these
50
50
swapper
pools
that
are
eth,
dpi
and
wbtc.
E
So
again,
like
I
mean
I
totally
understand
how
abet
is
an
attractive
asset.
But
I
think,
like
a
more
appealing
angle
here,
is
that
the
you
know
supporting
the
products
right
like,
because
I
think
that
lines
up
well
with
the
things
that
you've
mentioned,
like
the
you
know,
the
strong
media
presence
and
social
capital
of
the
bankless
community,
and
and
also
the
the
dx
treasury
mission
to
to
support
its
own
products.
So
I
like,
I
think,
the
angle
that
sky
is
is
going
down
here.
E
Where
yeah
can
we
find
a
way
to
like
yeah
support
the
bed
index
being
used
and
and
like
incentivized
within
dx
style
products,
and
it
is
maybe
more
interesting.
D
Yeah
definitely-
and
I
think
like
there's-
definitely
there's
definitely
ways
to
like
you
know-
support
the
product,
guys
right,
it's
like
if
the
general
consensus,
whatever
that
may
be,
like
obviously,
is
to
support.
Like
you
know
the
bed
index,
there
definitely
will
be
a
way
and
I
can
bring
in,
like
you
know
the
contacts
that
I
have
at
the
index
club
treasury
team,
and
I
can
certainly
have
them
like
you
know,
answer
any
questions
that
you
guys
have
in
more
detail,
because
obviously
this
is
also
their
part
of
their
asset
as
well.
E
C
Yeah,
so
usually
the
next
step
would
be,
as
I
said
before,
like
a
telegram
group
and
nathan,
r
hat,
if
you're
here,
I
guess
you're
here
like.
Could
you
start
up
a
group
and
share
the
invite
link
in
the
in
the
key
base,
and
then
I
think
we
can.
We
can
start
moving
it
from
there.
C
Yeah
so
well
thanks
for
joining,
and
you
know
this
is
something
exciting
and
I
think
I
don't
know
I'm
personally
very
bullish
on
this.
Both
on
you
know
the
diversification
and
you
know
the
swapper
collaboration
and
yeah
like
we
have
really
big
plans
for
arbitrary
and
yeah
we'd
love
to
collaborate
with
you
guys.
D
Yeah,
absolutely,
I
can
also
bring
in
lucas
campbell
as
well
on
this
there's
another
individual
he's
pseudo
anomalous
and
saints
frog
monkey.
D
He
also
is
part
of
the
bankless
hq
llc
team,
and
they
both
work
very
closely
with
me
as
long
as
with
another
individual
who
is
in
charge
of
our
marketing
as
well.
So
we
can
definitely
set
up
a
telegram
group
to
get
this
thing
rolling
and
further
discussions
moving
forward.
D
C
Yeah,
so
thanks
for
your
time,
if
you
want
to
stick
like
we're
actually
going
to
be
talking
about
like
the
next
thing,
we're
going
to
be
talking
talking
about
is
the
arbitrate,
swapper
sort
of
discussion
about
you
know
farming,
and
you
know
our
ebook
strategy
and
yes
sky.
Do
you
wanna
or
sky
or
or
is
that?
G
Oh
well,
so
it's
just.
It
was
really
just
to
get
everyone
on
the
same
page.
In
terms
of
of
of
timing,
I
think
there
was
some
calls
the
week
over
the
weekend
and
this
morning
with,
like
the
the
re
you
know,
launch
of
swapper
and
the
token
and
timing
up,
which
will
likely
happen
later
this
week
and
so
planning
like
the
start
date
of
farms
and
the
announcements
around
it.
Will.
G
I
think,
the
like
the
rough
plan
is
that
they'll,
it
will
like
there'll,
be
a
countdown
where
the,
where
once
swapper
is
live
on
arbitrom
and
ready
to
use
and
the
conversion
can
happen,
the
the
farms
will
likely
start
like
maybe
like
12
to
24
hours
later
so
we'll
give
people
time
to
do
the
conversions
to
the
new
swapper
token
that
they
need
to
do
position,
liquidity
and
things,
and
they
will
know
that
like
x,
number
of
farms,
I
think
eight,
eight
or
so
pairs
will
be
the
initial
launch
or
actually
nine
pairs
on
arbitrum
and
like
that
will
be
shared
around
with
the
article.
G
Obviously
bank
lists
like
help
spread.
You
know
the
announcements
around
the
swapper
token
drop
in
things
and
also
yeah.
G
If
once
these
farms
are
live,
it's
a
good
opportunity
for
all
the
different
communities
who
have
received
swapper
token
and
want
to
participate
to
like
share
it
once
more
with
their
communities,
and
there
should
be
some
decent
apis
and
and
so
like
just
making
getting
all
the
communities
that
that
aren't
that
have
a
connection
or
are
involved
in
the
swapper
token
or
the
upcoming
campaigns
make
getting
them
aware
of
of
the
of
when
the
farms
will
start,
because
the
farms
are
the
exciting
part.
G
So
yeah
we
will
share
yeah.
I
was
in
touch
with
frog
monkey,
so
we'll
share
that
with
you,
arden
and
and
the
bankless
community,
when
the
farms
are
ready
to
go
and
any
you
know
any
help
promoting
that
would
be
awesome
and
then
and
yeah.
That
should
all
happen
actually
this
week
and
and
and
then
we
can
keep
in
touch
on
on
bed
but
in
general
yeah.
G
D
Yeah
no
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Skye
yeah,
just
send
me
the
yes,
I'm
in
contact
with
our
on
on
telegram.
I
mean
excuse
me
on
discord.
So
if
you
want
to
send
me
that
link
also
sky
on
discord
as
well,
that
would
be
great
as
well
cool.
E
That's
great
yeah
and
then
and
just
a
an
additional
note
on
the
farming
campaigns.
I
think
it's
it's
important
for
everybody
here
to
to
understand
the
process,
and
you
know
for
folks.
You
know
it's
good
to
be
in
the
discord
and
connecting
with
the
community.
It's
fairly
active
since
more
active
since
swapper
token
launch
and
a
lot
of
people
have
been
making
great
effort.
You
know
I
think
especially
nathan,
that
fielding
questions
in
the
field,
so
to
speak,
and
it's
important
to
know
that
people
are
going
to
need
to
migrate
right.
E
Any
liquidity
on
the
current
deployment
of
swapper
is
going
to
have
to
go
to
the
new
one
once
it's
up
and
running,
and
it's
yeah
just
to
keep
that
in
mind.
So
people
can
claim
the
the
claimer
is
the
same
right.
So
it's
no
additional
steps,
if
you
claim
now
versus
later,
but
if
you're
providing
liquidity
now
on
the
existing
system,
you're
going
to
have
to
take
additional
steps
later
to
migrate
over
to
the
new
system
which
should
be
live
on
wednesday.
If
the
current
proposal
passes.
C
Great
anything
else
on
that
topic,
so
this.
D
C
Going
off
on
a
tangent,
maybe-
but
I
think
we
discussed
this
before
about
moving
this
specific
call
to
the
discord
which
might
be
able
which
might
get
us.
E
Yeah,
I
would,
I
would
say
that
you
know
community
is
critical
in
crypto
right
and
discord
is
where
that
our
community
lives.
So
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
bring
the
contributors
and
the
biz
dev
call
closer
to
the
community,
because
I
think
biz
dev
and
the
community
itself
are
very
tightly
introduced.
C
All
right
so
I
mean
we
could
do
a
proposal
for
this,
or
I
could
like
write,
maybe
in
the
forums.
I
think
I
think
we
should
do
it
so
yeah,
maybe
maybe
next
week
we'll
we'll
start
with
that.
C
G
Well,
two
things
one
one
is
the
is:
the
proposal
is
live
and
yeah
people
can
vote
on
that
which
would
move
actual
money
as
the
grant
and
then
separately.
This
was,
I
don't
know,
john
if
there
I
know
this
hasn't
been
a
priority,
but
I
the
process
of
like
getting
the
things
set
up
for
participating
in
haps
hats.
Is
that
just
on
hold
for
right
now
or
is
there
like
things
that
we
need
to
finish
or
do
to
have
that
fully
set
up?
I
guess.
E
Yeah,
and-
and
this
is
yeah
apologies
to
folks
with
hats-
it
was
a
priority
until
it
got
sidelined
by
the
need
to
do
the
redeployment
on
arbitrary.
So
that
has
been
basically
the
main
focus
for
the
last
couple
weeks
and
will
be
until
it's
live
and
everything
is
set.
But
the
this
next
steps
on
hats
are
to
get
the
committee
set
up
right,
which
is,
I
think
we
wanted
to
have
a
new
multi-sig
with
mostly
devs
on
it,
and
we
have
to
just
set
up
a
json
file
which
specifies
who's
on
the
committee.
E
C
E
C
E
C
Yeah
understandable
so
yeah,
I
don't
know,
let
me
know
if
I
could
help
in
any
way
to
speed
this
up,
and
maybe
we
can
sync
on
this
like
outside.
This
call.
E
C
Yeah,
okay,
so
we
can
think
on
this
there's
a
discussion
about
like
a
diagnosis,
safe
sort
of
like
multi-chain
hypnosis
safe,
and
then
it
appears
that
is
going
to
launch
something
new
tomorrow
I
asked
like
some
of
the
gnosis
people
for
some
alpha.
I
haven't
heard
anything
yet
yeah.
It
looks
like
there's
like
a
new
sort
of
a
governance
system
around
gnosis
safes,
yeah
zodiac.
C
So
I
don't
know.
Do
you
guys
want
to
talk
about
like
this
cross-chain
one.
G
Well,
just
in
general,
so
especially
with
layer
twos
there
is
we
are.
We
know
there
is
a
very
important
technology
that
needs
to
exist
for
dows
or
tools
that
dows
use
in
order
to
do
cross
chain
actions
like
dx
dial
has
been
using
a
like
delegated
gnosis
safe
to
do
to
move
money
across
chains,
mainly
x-die
and
and
mainnet.
G
Obviously,
this
becomes
a
much
bigger
issue
as
we
focus
on
l2s
as
well:
l2s
and
well
zk,
zk,
zk,
roll
ups
and
optimistic
roll-ups,
I
think,
have
slightly
different
technology,
but
the
the
the
the
act
of
moving
money
between
chains,
whether
they're
side
chains
or
l2s,
becomes
a
very
complex
issue
and
dx
dow
itself,
as
a
dow
in
the
current
state
of
things,
does
not
have
this
ability.
G
Part
of
the
reason,
probably
is
well
at
least
for
l2s.
Is
you
may
need
the
same
address
on
both
chains?
Not
really
sure
we
don't
know
the
true
answer
to
that.
Yet
at
this
point
the
technology
appears
that
way
in
that
case,
like
having
multi-chain
tools
such
as
a
gnosis
safe
at
its
at
its
like
at
x,
like
having
access
to.
That
is
a
more
and
more
important
thing.
G
Safe
is
not
yet
like
usable
on
arbitrum,
but
it
hopefully
will
be
soon,
and
so
this
this
announcement
that
that's
coming
out
from
gnosis
like
is
it
they
have
goals
to
like
solve
things
that
dx
dow,
like
doesn't
necessarily
have
a
problem
with
this
is
which
is
like
showing
the
world
like
a
path
towards
decentralization.
So
like
most,
people
that
use
snapshot
and
safes
is
like
what
how
do
they
become
actual
real
dows
and
more
like
dx
down,
like
a
token
decentralized,
a
truly
decentralized
governance.
So
that's
that's
their.
G
I
think
goal
with
what
they're
rolling
out,
but
part
of
that
is
the
cross-chain
communication
and
the
tools
that
they're
releasing
will
allow
cross-chain
moves
of
tokens
and
also
cross-chain
communication,
apparently,
and
now
how
safe
that
is
and
how
it
works
is
unknown.
Just
yet,
but
like
there's
talk
that,
like
like
a
safe
action
on
x,
die
could
could
trigger
an
action
on
optimism
or
on
arbitrary,
for
example,
and
so
like
how
that's
done
in
a
safe
way
is
we'll
we'll
we'll
see,
but
dx.
G
G
They're,
probably
not
going
to
be
as
open
and
decentralized
as
as
like
the
dxdot
framework
right
now,
but
using
the
tools
for
like
fractalization
and
squads
and
things
which
we've
been
doing
and
will
continue
to
do
if
this.
If
these
tools
get
better,
we
we
can
leverage
them
more
and
so
at
some
point
maybe
dx
vote
or
governance
2.0
actually
like
like
uses
like
safes
embedded
in
like
actions,
and
things
like
that,
and
so
it's
interesting
that
this
is
yeah
being
rolled
out
and
we'll
keep
an
eye
on
it.
G
There's
nothing
like
we
need
to
do
today,
other
than
hopefully
get
the
safe
working
on
arbitrary,
so
that
we
can
move
so
that
dx
dow
hasn't
has
a
way
to
move
capital
to
arbitrarium,
because
right
now,
dx
dao
is
it
doesn't
really
have
a
solution
for
that.
So
that's
yeah,
I
guess
this
week.
Everyone
will
learn
more
about
exactly
what
these
new
tools
allow,
but
it's
it's
pretty
interesting.
Yeah.
C
Yeah,
so
I
agree
with
ross.
This
is
I
I
don't
think
this
is
going
to
be
replacing
like
you
know
the
the
d
style
core,
but
you
know
perhaps
these
nosy
saves
could
act
as
sort
of
like
squads
or
I
don't
know
like
guilds
or
whatever
we
we
decided
to
call
them
yeah.
D
C
C
Yeah,
so
I
mean
the
next
sort
of
item
on
the
on
the
agenda
is
carrot
which
we've
been
discussing
in
the
in
the
the
squad,
the
dxp
squad
and
yeah
sky.
If
you
wanna
take
that
yeah,
I
guess.
G
There's
not
too
much
update
since
last
week.
We
we,
we
now
have
a
few
different
projects
in
the
works
that
are
that
are
like
ready
to
use
when
it
exists
so
like
when
this
thing
gets
made.
We
can
like
test
it
ourselves
for
our
own
use
case.
We
can
do
the
smarter
farming
that
we
want
to
do
instead
of
just
like
regular
old
farming,
and
then
we
will.
I
think
the
plan
would
be
because
we
were
talking
about
from
like
a
marketing
perspective.
G
Is
you
know
normally
like
when,
when
a
new
product
or
new
thing
is
being
released
like
and
you
kind
of
see
it?
I
guess
with
what
nosis
is
about
to
launch
is
like
I
guess
they
haven't
done
marketing
lead
up,
but
initially,
if
you
launch
a
new
big
product,
there's
you
have
like
a
month
or
so
of
like
like
leaking
it
out
or
like
saying
this
is
coming.
G
We
haven't
really
done
any
of
that
around
carrot,
because
we
don't
know
what,
when
it's
going
to
come
out
and
exactly
how
far
along
would
be,
and
so
likely
would
be
a
very
light
mvp
that
we
can
use
for
like
specific,
one-off
use
cases.
So,
instead
of
like
line
up
hundreds
of
people
that
want
to
start
using
it,
I
think
the
plan
would
be
to
get
it
to
the
point
where
dx
dow
can
use
it
itself.
We
could
we
could
announce
how
we're
using
it.
Why
it's
valuable
we
would.
G
We
would
launch
with
a
couple
other
people
that
would
want
to
be
early
users
of
it
and
then,
as
those
use
cases,
show
either
success
or
failure
or
whatever
we
like,
expand
it.
And
then
we
start
expanding
the
people
that
would
potentially
use
it
and
so
yeah
excited
for
that,
and
that
would
hope,
hopefully
get
a
little
more
focus
over
the
next
month
or
so,
and
then
we
could.
We
could
try
it
out.
C
E
Some
people
may
still
be
wondering
what
the
heck
is
carrot.
So
do
you
want
me
to
try
to
give
a
quick
yeah
sure,
so
the
idea
is-
and
it's
somewhat
similar
to
the
things
that
have
been
developed
and
that
our
people
are
talking
about
called
kpi
options
like
like
umass
kpi
options,
but
the
idea
is
to
allow
any
project
to
party
to
create
an
incentive
for
something
that
is
only
paid
out
under
a
certain
condition
right.
E
So
we've
called,
I
think,
when
this
idea
was
first
getting
circulated,
we
were
calling
it
conditional
tokens
or
conditional
incentives,
but
now
we're
kind
of
probably
going
to
brand
it
as
carrot
and
so
say,
like
you're,
a
project
that
is
like
a
lending
platform.
For
example,
you
want
to
incentivize
total
value
locked
when
you
launch
your
lending
platform
to
get
it
going,
so
you
could
deposit
some
of
the
native
token
into
carrot,
minting
a
carrot
token,
and
then
you
create
a
question
that
goes
along
with
that
which
could
be.
E
And
you
maybe
want
to
use
like
an
average
over
a
period
of
time,
but
that's
getting
more
into
the
details
and
then
you
could
give
out
that
that
carrot
token
to
people
to
incentivize
them
to
provide
that
liquidity,
and
it
would
only
and
then,
when
that
time
period
is
up
at
the
end
of
october,
the
folks
with
those
that
carry
token
come
and
redeem
it
for
the
underlying
project.
Token
in
the
carrot
system,
but
they
can
only
redeem
it
if
the
condition
actually
is
met
right.
E
So
the
idea
is
to
make
it
a
little
more
refined.
In
terms
of
you
know,
incentives
for
folks
for
projects,
and
so
you
could
do
categorical
or
scalar
questions
like
it
could
be
yes
or
no
or
you
could
give
it
a
range
like
10
to
50
million
dollars
and
it
could
pay
out
kind
of
proportionately
to
where
you
are
in
that
range
and
you
could
distribute
the
tokens
in
different
ways.
C
Yeah
any
other
comments
about
carrot.
C
Okay,
do
we
want
to
talk
about,
so
we
have
like
a
discussion
about
the
explode
and
I
think
yeah.
So
I
I
guess
you
guys
spoke
to
eric
or
like
sky.
You
spoke
to
eric,
who
used
to
work
for
doubt,
stack
and
he's
sort
of
like
advising
or
working
with
wearable,
and
he
asked
me
also
about
like
using
dx
vote
for
some
of
their
governance,
stuff
and
yeah
he's
at
mcon
so
like.
I
would
urge
like
for
you
guys
to
meet,
and
you
know
figure
out.
C
You
know
if
you
dig
so,
could
you
use
by
them?
I
think
this
could
be
great
and
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
anything
else
about
that
sky.
G
Yeah,
so
it's
just
an
example
of
some
of
the
discussions
we're
having
with
so
dx
vote
is,
you
know,
dxo
is
building
it
mainly
for
ourselves,
because
we
need
it
and
if
we
don't
have
it
we're
in
trouble,
but
at
the
same
time
we
have
the
opportunity
and
because
you
know
partly
because
of
nylon's,
you
know,
speeches
and
people
seeing
their
governance
systems
like
have
problems
and
vitalik
talks
about
reputational
governance
sometimes,
and
there
is
more
and
more
interest
around,
like
other
forms
of
governance,
other
than
just
straight
liquid
token,
governance,
using
snapshot
and
multi-sigs,
and
so
everyone's
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
future
of
governance
is.
G
You
know,
gnosis
is
launching
something
that
they
think
helps
and
and
boardroom
is
doing
what
they're
doing
and
orca
is
doing
what
they're
doing
and
so
dx
dao
is
making.
What
we
think
is
the
future
and
tools
of
governance,
and
so
any
projects
have
that
take
a
liking
in
that
and
have
an
interest
in
that.
G
I
think
we
should
obviously
talk
with
them
about
it
if
they
can
advise
on
things
that
they
would
need
and
and
actually
if
they
could
also
contribute
to
to
the
product
that
benefits
both
all
parties
involved,
and
so
anyone
that
gets
aware
or
talks
to
people
that
it
seems
like
they
are
searching
for
what
we
are
trying
to
build.
G
Yeah
put
them
in
touch
with
the
the
gov
team,
which
or
or
the
dx
biz
team,
and
we
can
start
to
include
them
in
the
conversations
and
I
I
don't
think
that
we
would
like
dedicate
our
resources
at
this
point
to
like
solving
their
specific
needs,
but
like
that
could
be
something
that
happens
in
the
future
and
that
could
come
with
grants
from
those
projects
or
or
or
dev
resources
from
their
projects,
contributing
to
like
making
dx
vote
and
governance
2.0
achieving
our
goals.
And
so
it's
super
cool.
G
If,
if
wearable,
you
know,
they
say
that
using
dow
stack,
I
I
don't
know
if
they're
using
anything
just
yet
but
like
if,
if
they're
trying
to
use
dallas
tech
and
alchemy
doesn't
work,
they
could
start
using
dx
vote
today.
So
that
is
something
that
we
should
like
get
them
involved
in
and
and
any
other
projects
that
are
looking
for
similar.
We
could
get
them
involved
as
well.
E
E
So
any
project
can
pick
it
up
and
start
using
it,
and
if
there's
any
momentum
like
that,
that
can
end
up
contributing
to
an
ecosystem
of
development
around
the
project
that
could
end
up
benefiting
style
as
well.
Right,
like
you,
could
imagine,
wearable
dev,
saying
oh,
like
we
can
just
fix
this
thing
and
submit
a
pr
and
that
benefits
all
dx
vote
users.
C
Yeah
yeah,
like
like,
I
think,
the
network
effects
that
could
happen
from
something
like
this
is
great
and
specifically
variable
is,
I
mean
potentially
low
hanging
fruit
because
eric
knows
sort
of
like
the
daostax
system
and
yeah.
C
Like
I
don't
know,
I've
been
saying
this
like
this
has
gotten
me
in
like
so
like
arguments
within
side,
like
the
dow
stack
when
I
was
there,
but
if
you
could
allow
like
the
governing
body
to
use
their
own
token
in
you
know
the
staking
like
what
we
are
doing
right
now,
with
with
the
ex
vote.
I
think
this
is
like
it's
it's
an
immense
value
proposition
and
it
gives
an
additional
utility
to
the
token-
and
I
don't
know
it's
a
it's
a
no-brainer.
G
That
eric
knows
is
like
you
know.
He
knows
what
reputational
governance
is,
and
so
they
there's,
like
maybe
like
a
smaller
squad
of
people,
focused
on
governance.
That
start
to
do
things
using
reputational
governance,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
people
own
and
investors
and
things
own
rarity
token,
and
that
is
the
governance
token.
G
So
right
now
like
they
might
be
using
snapshot
and
multi-sig,
but
they
very
quickly
probably
need
something
closer
to
governance,
2.0
which
that's
great,
because
we
we
are
going
to
have
that
at
some
point,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
it's
gonna,
like
dx
vote
in
its
current
state
is
not
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
fit
with
like
liquid
token
projects
at
this
point.
It's
it's
this
weird
dynamic.
C
Right,
yeah
yeah,
I
mean
we
do
need
that
like
this
is
I
don't
know
sort
of
like
my
proposal
to
hack
the
like
the
the
voting
power
formula
in
east
lisbon,
and
you
know
figure
out
like
how
we
can
do
that
like
it's?
It's
mostly,
I
guess
specified
in
like
the
the
governor's
2.0
working
group,
so
yeah
I
would.
C
I
would
like
to
to
do
that
to
create
like
a
formula
that
unifies
reputation
and
voting
power,
tokens
yeah,
and
then
we
could
probably
plug
that
in
to
like
existing
dial
frameworks,
whether
it's
snapshot
or
you
know
like
holographic.
It
says
it's
like
dao
stack.
C
C
You
can
you
can
be
me
it's
okay,
yeah,
like
maybe
for
like
we
have
like
another
minute
to
want
to
talk
about
just
generally
eat
lisbon
and
what's
planned
there
or
you
know.
If
anyone
has
any
comments
about
that.
G
Just
br
more
broad
about
dx
events,
which
was
a
proposal
that
passed
a
while
back,
and
it
was
a
general
proposal
that,
like
signaled,
that
you
know
dx
dow
members
should
participate
in
eth,
paris
and
eat
lisbon
and
emcon,
and
things
like
that,
and
so
there
is
not
always.
It
seems
that
there's
not
like
there
is
a
general
sentiment
that
the
dx
doubt
should
participate
in
these
things,
and
so
that
proposal
seems
to
outline
some
general
guidelines,
which
is
fine.
So
people
have
ideas
of
general
guidelines
which
also
kind
of
implies.
G
Like
there's.
I
don't
know
if
you
specifically
need
like
one-off
proposals
for
every
time
people
attend
these
events
like
there
should
be
okay.
People
should
be
aware
of
these
events
and
and
like
some
general
consensus,
but
there
was
like
talk
of
like
defining
exactly
everything
and
asking
proposal
ahead
of
time,
and
I
think
that
that,
according
to
the
dx
events,
signal
proposal
might
not
be
necessary
and
so
yeah.
I
think
I
don't
I
don't.
We
don't
know
exactly
how
I
guess,
with
eth,
paris
and
and
ecc.
G
The
way
it
worked
was
there
were
general
guidelines
included
well
included
by
that
proposal,
and
then
people
just
asked
for
like
the
like
travel,
stipend
and
the
the
attendance
whatever
like
in
their
worker
proposal
following
the
event
and
if
that's
like
the
general
way
that
it's
going
to
be
done,
I
think,
and
obviously
people
should
not
abuse
it
and
and
like
it's,
it's
good
that
people
are
aware,
but
I
don't
think
all
these
things
need
to
be
like
fully
public
on
forums
like
prior
ahead
of
time.
It's
my
is
my
view,
but
yeah.
E
I
guess
there's
questions
of
kind
of
privacy
and
operational
security
if
you
have
to
be
like
I'm
going
to
be
here
at
this
time
doing
this
thing,
but
at
the
same
time
there's
a
need
for
some
verifiability
on
claiming
the
reimbursement.
E
I
Yeah,
I
think,
that'll
make
sense.
I
saw
like
kind
of
the
conversation
around
this
I
think
yeah.
I
think
it's
good
to
just
at
least
even
if
this
is
part
of
whoever
initially
did
the
dx
events
announcement
to
put
some
sort
of
post
for
like
for
so
ultra
transparency
like
legal
transparency,
treasury
transparency.
I
think
that
it's
the
same
thing
with
events
right,
so
we
need
to
say
like
at
least
pre
prior
to
the
conference.
A
slight
thing
like
hey
people,
are
going
to
this
event
and
we're
going
to
ask
for
reimbursement
for
it.
I
E
E
I
think
probably
per
person,
and
you
could
you
could
just
extrapolate
like
what
that
could
be
emma
if
everybody
were
using
the
maximum.
E
F
An
idea
of
what,
like
the
next
six
months
or
a
year,
would
look
like,
and
I
don't
know
if
we
have
been
able
to
say
that
for
the
last
year
and
a
half,
because
no
one
really
knows.
But
if
we
are
having
some
certainty,
maybe
we
could
like
map
out
what
are
the
big
ones
that
people
would
like
to
go
to
that
maybe
do
justify
somebody
like
the
larger
cost,
and
I
guess
the
eth,
defcon
or
defcon
is
not
happening
this
year,
but
maybe
just
thinking
about.
E
I
could
also
see
like
special
budget
being
allocated
for
certain
contributors
that
are
in
a
role
that
maybe
necessitates
going
to
more
conferences
or
speaking
at
more
conferences
and
like
I
could
see
like
if,
if
like
nisa
is
going
to
a
bunch
of
stuff
right,
like
maybe
the
there's
like
a
general
maximum
for
everybody.
But
then
a
special
budget
for
for
people
that
are
like
this
is
actually
like,
integral
to
their
role.
H
I
guess
the
whole
thing
is
also
about
avoiding
conflict
when
you're
actually
trying
to
perhaps
claim
your
money
afterwards
right.
Like
john,
like
the
example
you
just
said,
like
you
know,
you
go
to
the
missouri
conference.
It's
2
000
euro,
the
ticket
also
in
crypto,
it's
not
unheard
of
over
15
000
ticket
or
whatever
you
know,
and
if
someone
just
tries
to
claim
it
back
afterwards.
Well,
no
one
knew
that
they
were
even
attending
or
this
amount
was
in
play.
H
I
think
it's
just
about
avoiding
that
worst
case
scenario
right:
it's
not
about
prohibiting
people
from
going
to
any
conferences
or
also,
but
I
think
also
just
maintaining
a
list
or
something
like
that.
To
you
know,
events
we
think
are
good.
I
I
guess
we
don't
want
to
over,
create
an
over
bureaucratic
process
either
right.
We
have
to
keep
tracking
what
everyone
is
standing
here
and
there
we
can.
G
Totally,
oh
sorry
so
related
but
separate,
there
is
a
so
eath
online,
which
is
this
upcoming
youth
global
thing
been
going
back
and
forth.
There
is
like
this,
this
weird
dynamic
where
eath
global's
like
competitive
nature,
is
like
the
way
they
do
their
sponsorships
and
things
like
they're
like
secret
sauce.
I
guess
right
and
most
the
examples
they
give
is
even
daos
and
projects
that
are
out
there
like
there's,
usually
like
the
marketing
team
and
they
and
they
have
one-off
conversations
with
them
and
yeah
like
the
payment.
G
Things
could
be
public,
but
all
the
details
of
like
open
community
discussion
around
comparing
all
the
details
of
the
of
the
packages
and
things
is
not
something
that
is
typically
done
and
there's
we're
trying
to
figure
out
if
dx
dao
via
some
method.
G
Maybe
it's
like
the
dx
voice
squad
has
the
ability
to
like
make
a
decision
for
a
sponsorship
out
of
allocated
like
quarterly
budget
without
making
it
like
a
fully
open
public
community
discussion,
and
if
that
is
possible,
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
still
participate
in
and
become
a
like
a
active
participant
in
these
global
events.
G
Their
team
just
has
this
concern
of
like
these
discussions
and
all
of
the
details
around
the
packages
and
what
it's
included
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
being
like
a
fully
open
public
discussion
and
it's
a
weird
dynamic,
because
you
know
most
stuff
in
this
space
is
like
really
fully
open
and
public.
But,
as
we
know
like
even
there's
a
lot
of
conversations
that
happen
in
the
exile
community
that
are
not
fully
open
and
public
right,
there's
in
most
discord,
even
in
bank
list
or
whatever
discord
like
there's,
there's
unlock
channels
and
lock
channels.
G
There's
conversations
that
happen
with
core
groups
and
there's
conversations
that
happen
in
the
open
public
forum
and
so
trying
to
figure
out
if
dxdao
could
participate
and
take
action
and
and
make
some
payment
without
disclosing.
Every
single
detail.
Publicly
is
that
is
that
something
we
can
do,
or
is
it
that
if
we
can't
handle
that,
then
I'm
not
sure
that
we
can
participate
in
some
of
these
types
of
events.
C
Yeah,
so
so
I
totally
think
that
we
need
to
have.
We
need
to
figure
out
like
what
does
like
a
dx
style,
community
member.
Look
like
like
a
portal
for
that,
and
how
do
we
like
we're,
not
going
to
be
able
to
have
everything
like
fully
open
for
everyone?
There
needs
to
be
like
if
you're
a
part
of
the
community.
If
you're,
I
don't
know,
if
you're
a
dxd
holder,
if
your
reputation
holder,
then
you
can
enter
and
see,
and
it's
not
like
fully
public
like.
E
G
The
dx
voice
squad
is
has
an
allocated
budget
for
things
like
sponsorships
and
things
so
can
the
can
dx
voice
make
a
a
hackathon
like
spawns
pay
for
a
hackathon
sponsorship
project
like
as
a
delegated
as
a
delegated
decision
that
has
been
given
from
dxdow
already?
Is
that
or
is
dick
style?
Okay
with
that.
I
I
Right,
okay,
so
I
I
have
to
deal
with
this
all
the
time
with
stuff
that
I
post
for
you
know
when
it
comes
to
like
legal
stuff,
like
how
much
information
is
necessary
information
right.
So
it's
information,
that's
like
necessary
for
us
to
decide
whether
or
not
we
want
to
do
a
hackathon,
and
we
come
up
with
this
with
dx
ventures,
because
a
lot
of
the
people
or
projects
that
we're
you
know
getting
giving
grants
to
don't
necessarily
want
every
single
detail
of
their
pitch
deck.
G
So
I
guess
my
point
is
there
was
a
proposal
with
a
budget
attached
to
that.
The
dx
dow
already
has
given
money
to
the
dx
voice
squad
and
part
of
that
is
for
sponsorships
in
events
and
hackathons.
G
G
Well,
there's
different,
so
dx
ventures
funds
were
earmarked
and
they're
still
held
in
dxdow.
This
was
money
that
was
moved
to
like
the
fractional
squad
with
like
delegation
granted
through
the
signal
proposal.
In
order
to
spend
that
money
in
the
outlined
manners
a
red.
It's
already
been
approved
to
spend
that
on
sponsorships.
I
I
J
Hey,
can
you
hear
me
yeah
yeah,
I
don't
know,
I
think
I
think,
I'm
in
obviously
agreeance
that
it
was
passed
on
chain
that
we
have
the
ability
to
send
money
without
the
necessity
of
the
proposal,
but
I
also
agree
with
the
sentiment
that
there
needs
to
be
a
general
quorum
for
that
money
before
we
send
it,
but
I
I
do
think
there's
room
for
case-by-case
scenarios
if,
if
there's
a
necessity
of
of
secrecy
for
this,
I
think
it's
it's
it's
been
delegated
and
if
that's
a
decision
that
needs
to
be
made,
maybe
we
can
vote
on
on
moving
forward
with
that
without
sharing
the
details
widely
on
the
form,
not
100
what
that
would
look
like,
but
I
I
see
both
sides.
J
C
And
then,
maybe,
if
we're
kind
of
like
on
the
topic
of
the
dick's
retreat
during
the
lisbon
group
or
you
wanna,
we
have
a
two-day
workshop
with
greater
than
x
and
you
know
if
you
would
like
to
participate
in.
You
know
the
preparation
for
that.
C
If
you
want
to
share
some
input,
you
know
feel
free
to
reach
to
melanie
or
myself
and
yeah
like
we're
start
trying
to
organize
like
what
sessions
we
want,
what
what
they
want
to
talk
about
and
how
they
want
to
structure
this
so
no
feel
free
to
do
that.
A
H
C
C
And
then,
like
worst
case
in
the
digs
retreat
like
a
week
before
it's
actually
two
weeks
before
we
could
like
discuss
what
we
want
to
build.
Maybe
with
some
of
the
things
will
come
up
from
the
retreat
that
we
want
to
build
in
the
hackathon
and
yeah.
You
can
always
change
it
like
you're,
not
really
bound
by
any
idea.
Even
if
you
submitted
that
idea
beforehand,.