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B
Hello
and
welcome
to
the
monday
30th
of
august
2021
take
style.
This
div
call
on
the
call
today.
I
don't
think
we
have
any
new
member
introductions
under
the
express
discussions.
We
have
the
arbitration
launch.
We
have
the
swapper
launch
that
sort
of
goes
on
arbitrage.
B
We
have
the
proposal,
the
treasury,
the
specific
the
diversification
proposal,
v3
with
ryan
l
usd.
We
have
the
hats
set
up
for
to
be
a
user
to
be
like
a
fault
owner
and
under
dx
events.
We
have
lisbon
and
ethon
line
that
we
want
to
talk
about
and
then
under
the
exercise.
B
We
have
the
hatch
opportunity,
that's
on
the
forums
and
the
opposite,
and
I
think
like
what
we're
going
to
start
with
just
to
get
that
out
of
the
way-
and
I
think
that's
urgent-
it's
the
if
lisbon
week,
if
we
have
any
updates
dave.
C
So
I
believe
we
booked
four
places
in
lisbon
and
one
of
these
is
booked
until
the
25th,
the
idea
being
for
people
who
attend
the
actual
hackathon
and
who
will
be
hacking
given
that
that
ends
on
the
24th
one
of
the
apartment
goes
till
the
25th,
while
the
others
are
to
until
the
24th.
C
So
anyone
who
hasn't
yet
take
a
look
at
flights
and
make
your
bookings
and
hurt
euro
might
tighten
borders.
C
D
Yeah,
that's
great,
that's
great,
because
you've
mentioned
portugal's,
like
in
the
better
of
the
countries.
I'm
just
I'm
slightly
worried
that
if
the,
if
they
do
it
as
the
eu
and
like
and
portugal
has
to
do
with
other
countries,
are
they
making
decisions
country
by
country
or
is
it
like
getting?
Oh.
E
A
Yeah,
I
think
portugal
is
actually
the
one
leading
like
some
sort
of
unification
effort
for
like
the
vaccination
cards
and
stuff.
So
if
they're
going
to
be
more
open
because
of
their
vaccination
rates,
I'm
assuming
that
there's
going
to
be
some
sort
of
standard
that
maybe
the
other
countries
will
apply.
But
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
anyone
can
agree
on
anything
these
days.
E
C
Yeah
we
have
the
we
have
the
app
as
well.
It's
it's
it's
a
work
in
progress.
I
would
say
it's
not
as
good
as
the
french
or
german
one,
but
as
long
as
you
have
a
vaccination
certificate
you
can
get
into
anywhere,
and
here
in
portugal
it
actually
works
that
if
you
need
to
do
a
test,
otherwise
you
actually
just
do
a
test
in
front
of
the
people
like
the
pharmacy
thing
with
the
app
it
doesn't.
C
B
B
So
yeah
anything
else
about
if
lisbon.
C
I
guess
nothing
more
concrete
to
share
now
so
lisconn
tickets
were
already
open
for
sale,
so
people
who
didn't
get
their
tickets
make
sure
to
either
wait
for
the
next
wave
or
text
adam
because
adam
bought
four
by
mistake,
but
he
might
be
willing
to
give
some
of
them
off
away
if
he
doesn't
get
them
refunded.
I
don't
know.
F
Oh
yeah,
okay,
and
also
a
reminder
to
set
up
a
reminder
on
like
what
was
the
event
tribute
or
something
instead
of
something
to
know
about
all
the
events,
because
people
will
just
start
hoarding
tickets.
I
guess
this
time.
B
Yeah,
so
I
guess
the
next
thing
up
to
discuss,
wait
sky.
Do
you
want
to
discuss
the
if
online
or
could
it
wait
till
the
end.
D
Yeah
just
that
we
still
we're
still
planning
to
try
to
do
it,
but
they
don't
have
the
details
yet
so
just
keep
it
in
mind,
but
when
they
do
we're,
gonna
have
to
move
probably
quickly
because
it
starts
in
seven
eighteen
days.
So
they're
just
seem
to
be
do
everything
quite
last
minute,
but
at
some
point
we
will
likely
have
know
the
numbers
and
then
we
can
analyze
a
potential
proposal.
I
I
don't.
D
B
B
So
yeah,
the
next
things
we
have
kind
of
like
to
discuss
is
first
of
all
the
armature
launch,
which
is
supposedly
happening
tomorrow
and
then
the
swapper
launch,
which
is
going
to
happen
on
return.
Do
you
want
to
leave
that
sky.
D
Yeah,
it's
like,
I
can
just
summarize
that
many
people
can
add,
but
it
just
we
we
have.
We
were
we've
been
discussing
and-
and
we
just
had
a
call
with
more
of
like
the
details
of
what
it
what
it
means.
As
now
that
we
know
the
exact
date
of
of
tomorrow
at
potentially.
Well,
we
don't
know
the
exact
time
of
arbitrary
launching,
which
then
becomes
kind
of
an
open
network,
and
people
can
have
access
to
move
funds
across
the
bridge
onto
arbitram.
D
Dx
dao
has
a
whole
game
plan
of
you
know,
publishing
an
article
and
and
sharing
that
with
the
different
communities
that
we've
involved
in
swapper
token
launch
and
then
there's
like
a
whole
technical
plan
which
maybe
john
or
someone
else.
We
don't
need
to
go
into
like
exact
details,
but
of
of
like
the
different
steps
that
need
to
have
take
place
via
proposals
and
and
moving
money
and
launching
permission
or
parameters
and
also
campaigns
and
things,
and
so
that
that
kind
of
plan
is
going
on
in
the
background.
D
D
This
is
the
biggest
like
pri,
like
news
launch,
or
I
guess
product
and
token,
and
like
awareness
launch
that
dxdo's
done
in
quite
a
long
time,
or
maybe
ever
so
doing
our
best
to
get
everyone
in
the
dxd
and
and
rep
community
and
actually
the
entire
dx
style
community
to
like
push
it
and
spread
it
as
best
as
possible
is
like
the
goal.
I
think
so.
B
D
Yeah,
I
guess
it
one
of
the
things
is
going
to
be.
You
know
I,
obviously,
if
maintenance,
gas
prices
are
really
high,
it
can
encumber,
like
part
of
the
plan
of
getting
people
to
come
with
a
little
bit
of
capital,
to
arbitrarium,
to
claim
swapper
token,
to
bring
capital
to
to
provide
liquidity
into
swapper
polls.
D
You
know
waiting
like
for
other
people.
Everyone
should
should
try
this
out
themselves.
It
will
you
know
if
there's
problems,
we'll
discover
the
problems,
but
it
will
also
build
like
the
dxdot
community
alone
can
build
a
lot
of
momentum.
I
think
and
then
spreading
that
around
and
then
others
will
hopefully
follow.
So
don't
be
shy
to
like
make
it
happen
like
like
make
the
moves
yourself.
I
guess.
G
Great
yeah,
I
think,
we'll
probably
go
into
more
details
on
some
other
calls,
like
the
governance
call
or
the
arbitrary
call,
and
how
to
operate
the
ex
vote
and
see
you
know
which
proposals
need
to
be
done,
but
there's
a
bunch
of
proposals
that
will
need
to
happen
around
setting
up
the
farming
campaigns
and
and
stuff
like
that,
so
yeah,
a
bunch
of
stuff
happening,
I
would
say,
just
be
ready.
Yeah
already
on
the
communication
front
and
and
ready
to
get.
E
No
I'm
just
I
was
ready
in
case
there
were
any
questions,
but
there
is
we
I
created,
or
we
have
a
as
we're,
calling
it
now,
a
war
room
on
key
base
to
just
synchronize
the
actions
and
the
proposals
and
all
the
things
regarding
arbitron
and
also
swapper
token
and
swapper
on
arbitrary
launch.
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
where,
like
up
in
the
air
or
yeah,
so
just
yeah
just
have
this
chat.
E
If
anyone
wants
to
be
invited
there
pm
me,
I
think
most
people
it's
there
already,
but
I'm
not
sure
so
pm.
If
you,
if
you,
if
you
want
to
be
there
and
sync
with
us,.
B
E
Yeah
we
we
had
a
proposal
going
through
during
this
weekend.
Swapper
beta
v4
is
out,
which
is
basically
swapper
with
arbitrome,
with
a
new
network,
switcher
swapper
with
the
arb,
with
the
airdrop
model
and
airdrop
claiming
function,
and
so
yeah
we're
ready
for
operation
and
just
some
some
other
thinking
that
we
need
to
do
so.
We
have
already
people
asking
about
the
airdrop.
E
I
think
we'll
come
up
with
an
article
announcement
later
tonight
regarding
that
a
medium
post,
so
we
can
come
out
and
actually
have
something
to
link
back
to
to
make
people
understand
what's
going
on,
but
until
then
yeah.
G
So
people
can
see
their
airdrop
amount
on
arbitrary
now,
but
they
can't
actually
take
action
on
it
because
arbitrary
is
not
fully
open.
E
Yeah,
that's
correct
and
like
we
we
don't,
I
mean
we
should
be
more
careful
to
be
honest,
because
airdrops
could
mean
also
getting
scammed
and,
like
the
first
question
we
got
is,
is
the
airdrop
reel
and
obviously
not
being
able
to
claim
an
airdrop
looks
like
a
scam
and
they
might
be
wondering.
Why
did
I
connect
my
wallet
or
what
is
what's
going
on?
I
don't
know
it
could
be
like
10
different
things,
and
we're
also
opening
up
for
for
someone
to
to
try
to
create
the
scam
surrounding
this.
E
E
I
mean
this
is
a
what
could
happen
and
did
happen
with
the
external
right
before
we
even
did
an
airdrop.
There
was
a
fake
airdrop
for
deke
style
and
there
was
a
deke
style
at
twitter
with
a
check
mark
more
followers
than
us
coming
out,
saying:
hey,
claim
the
news
airdrop
and-
and
he
actually
got
a
lot
of
attention
right
and
it
looked
more
official
than
our
real
one.
E
So
I
would
say
we
need
to
be
clear
on
a
lot
of
our
channels.
At
the
same
time,
if
someone
comes
to
our
discord,
they
need
to
see
the
announcement.
If
someone
goes
to
twitter
or
medium
or
yeah
anywhere,
they
need
to
see
it.
So
we
will
try
to
push
everywhere
yeah
and
we
need
to
be
like
we
don't
want
people
to
try
to
like
the
action.
Actions
should
be
clear.
There's
there's
gonna
be
like
yeah
the
action
should
we
should
be
super
clear.
E
So
it's
it's
not
like
miscommunication
and
the
problem
right
now
is
people
might
see
it,
but
they
can't
claim
it
and
and
if
they
ask
for
support
someone
might
dm
them
right.
So
this
guy
that
actually
wrote
on
discord,
we
need
to
be
quick,
responding
to
him.
So
so
no
one
acts
like
keenan
or
acts
like
me
tries
to
dm
him
with
canon.
So
we
need
to
be
like
super
quick
or
super
clear.
H
Yeah,
by
the
way,
great
job
on
the
design
for
claiming
the
token
within
swapper,
it's
it's
really
cool
yeah.
B
B
Awesome
so
the
next
thing
kind
of
to
talk
about
is
the
rye
and
lusd
in
the
treasury
diversification
proposal.
C
And
yes,
this
proposal
aims
to
also
acquire
a
large
amount
of
rye.
So
the
idea
behind
that,
of
course,
we
had
a
chat
with
stefan
from
from
reflex
labs
as
well,
and
I
guess
the
idea
was
to
send
also
a
bit
of
a
statement
that
we
really
support
likes
projects
like
these,
so
for
people
who
are
not
familiar
with
riot,
I
guess
we
could
say
the
stable
coins
we
currently
hold
are
more
us
dollar
pegged
coins
than
stable
coins,
while
rye
itself
is
actually
a
stable
coin
in
itself.
C
So
it's
not
actually
pegged
to
the
us
dollar
but
aims
to
maintain
a
stable
value
by
itself.
So
I
believe
right
now.
It's
like
three
dollars
or
something
the
rye,
and
so
that's
why
a
large
portion
of
it.
I
believe
three
million
were
actually
going
into
acquiring
some
rye
and
yeah.
I
guess
that's
the
main
new
stable
coin.
Then
we
also
have
l
usd
from
liquidity,
which
is
a
local
authorized.
I
believe
they
have.
A
ratio
of
110
compared
to,
I
believe
die
is
like
100.
C
I
think
130
is
the
typical
collateralization
ratio
in
the
stable
coin
right.
I
believe
that
yeah.
C
I
think
yeah,
I
think
they
all
took
it
from
like
the
original
single
collateral
die
back
in
the
days
and
everyone
just
uses
that
so
lusd
just
uses
a
different
collateralization
ratio
and
I
believe
john,
it
turns
into
eth
automatically
right
if
the,
if
it's
or
maybe
die,
was
150
back
in
the
days
yeah
but
yeah.
Those
are
the
two
new
ones
and
then
there's
a
small
amount
of
dye
and
usdc
top
up.
C
G
I
Yeah,
it's
very
important
that
we
prepare
to
have
like
a
multi-year
bear
market
and
having
like
a
prepared
runway
for
the
current
existing
size
of
diesel.
Full-Time
workers,
at
least
for
10
years,
is
like
very
great
to
see
that
we
already
accomplished
to
diversify.
J
I
think
10
years
is
a
little
aggressive
kind
of
getting
into
hoarding
capital
mode,
but
I
definitely
agree
with
kind
of
diversification
in
general
and
I
think
rai
is
a
great,
a
great
asset
for
that.
It's
the
one
thing
on
rye
that
it's
like.
I
don't
know
if
you
should
include
this
proposal,
but
I
think
rye
would
be
a
really
great
one
to
also
be
a
swapper
pool.
J
So
I
don't
know
if
we'd
want
to
have
some
of
the
allocation,
and
this
be
like
automatically
geared
towards
the
swapper
pool,
because
I
could
I
mean
I'm
pretty
sure
if
the
three
million
dollars
would
make
geeks
down
the
largest
holder
of
rye
out
there.
I
think
it's
only
like
a
60
million
dollar
market
cap
coin,
so
I
think
we
should
be
thinking
about,
maybe
even
including
that
and
this-
and
that's
also
true,
I
think-
of
the
stable
coins
themselves.
J
Obviously,
we've
talked
about
putting
them
in
lending
protocols,
but
I
think
them
just
being
deposited
into
swapper
themselves
would
also
provide
some
fees
and
also
lead
to
like
attract
some
trading
activity.
So
not
sure,
if
we're
going
to
include
those
types
of
things
in
the
diversification
proposal,
but
things
we
could
also
think
about
doing.
J
Well,
I
think
rye
there's
an
opportunity
to
be
the
biggest
pool,
I
think
there's
I
think
most
of
the
liquidity
is
actually
or
the
volumes
on
the
swap
v3
and
mu
v2.
But
since
that
one's
pretty
small-
and
I
think
like
that-
maybe
I
know
there's
some
integration
kind
of
probably
marketing
partnership-
opportunity
that
we
could
do
with
rye
around
swapper.
So
I
think
that
would
make
sense,
probably
on
mainnet
but
the
other
ones
in
general.
I
think
we
could
just
have
our
stable
coins
on
all
the
different
networks.
J
B
I
personally
feel
like
like
the
d5
ecosystem
is
completely
built
on
usdc
right
now,
like
all
of
it
even
die,
and
it's
kind
of
ridiculous,
and
if
we
could,
like,
I
don't
know
tilt
that
into
the
direction
of
rye,
which
is
actually
decentralized.
That
would
be
very,
very
cool.
I
J
I
was
going
to
type
this.
We
are
thinking
about
what
the
allocation
of
that
2
million
will
be
when
we
want
to
2.25
million.
When
that
proposal
trends
will
go
through,
and
I
think
it
would.
I
guess
we
could
even
use,
make
rye
part
of
that
and
provide
liquidity
on
swap
on
arbor
trum
within
the
next
week
or
two.
C
Awesome
so
my
idea
was
actually
I'll
submit
the
proposal
on
chain
this
week,
probably
and
yeah,
just
to
touch
on
the
runway
as
well,
which
was
mentioned
before.
I
believe
this
proposal
will
actually
bring
us
to
roughly
five
years
runway
at
the
current
burn
rate,
and,
but
you
have
to-
I
guess.
One
thing
to
consider
is
also
that
operational
costs
are
mostly
covered
in
ether.
So
whenever
we
do
fund
the
x
diet
base,
it
doesn't
actually
come
out
of
our
stable
coin
reserves.
C
It's
actually
ether
that
gets
turned
into
dies,
so
this
is
kind
of
like
a
five-year
runway
which
is
not
really
affected
by
our
daily
operations,
because
those
are
mostly
paid
for
in
eth,
or
at
least
that's
how
it's
been
happening
now.
I
guess,
if
there
were
large
market
movements
or
ether
were
to
drop
significantly,
we
would
likely
consider
moving
actual
dye
to
x-dire.
Rather
than
doing
what
we've
been
doing
now,
which
is
taking
eth
and
moving
it
into
dye
and
then
bridging
it.
B
Yeah
so
great
stuff,
so
we're
moving
to
the
next
topic.
I
think
this
is
under
the
discussions
and
it's
about
becoming
a
user
of
hats.
I
don't
know
sky.
Do
you
want
to
lead
this
and
then
I
can
answer
any
questions,
because
I'm
fairly
familiar
with
the
project.
D
Yeah
yeah,
so
two
two
different
parts,
so
there's
discussion
around
which
we've
been
talking
about
for
a
while,
where,
where
yeah
nylon
wears
multiple
hats,
but
using
you
being
dx,
dow
being
a
user
of
hats,
and
that
seems
like
a
no-brainer
like
dick
styles,
never
had
a
bug
bounty
program,
every
project
with
decent
amount
of
funds
and
products
should
have
some
bug.
Bounty
program.
D
Hats
program,
which
is
new
and
untested,
seems
like
a
pretty
unique,
interesting
community,
focused
dow
way
to
get
into
to
launch
a
bug,
bounty
program,
so
being
a
user.
But
there's
a
handful
of
you
know
things
that
john
and
I
think
some
devs
and
security
team
have
been
like
working
on
the
background
in
order
to
get
the
things
in
place
to
to
be
one
of
the
you
know:
first
users
of
hats
as
a
as
a
as
a
program
yeah
like
they're.
D
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
get
into
like
the
exact
details,
but
there
has
to
do
it
like
the
way
this
system
works.
You're
gonna
have
to
have
a
community
of
people.
Ideally
devs.
That's
like
a
focused
committee.
That's
like
making
the
decisions
and
is
the
place
where
bugs
could
be
like
reported
into
or
have
access
to
where
the
bugs
are
reported
into.
D
G
Yeah
there's
this
committee,
which
I've
made
some
progress
on
setting
up
it's
basically
an
encrypted
telegram
chat
with
the
group
of
people
that
gets
decided
on.
So
we
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
who
it
would
make
sense
to
have
on
that
committee
and
then
the
other
thing
that
we
have
to
specify
to
get
this
set
up
is
the
contracts
that
we
want,
bounties
for
and
also
the
different
levels
of
severity
that
we
would
recognize
with
the
bugs
that
could
be
reported
and
the
corresponding
reward.
That
would
go
with
that.
G
So,
like
the
recommended,
like
suggested
way
of
doing
it
would
be
having
something
like
four
levels
of
severity
with,
like
you
know,
the
low
end,
just
being
like
the
smart
contract
doesn't
work
as
expected,
but
no
funds
were
lost
and,
like
the
high
end
being
you
know,
a
lot
of
funds
were
lost
or
could
be
lost.
With
this.
G
With
this
bug
and,
and
then
the
idea
with
that
too,
is
you
have
to
have
a
bounty
pool,
so
dxdow
would
have
to
commit
a
certain
amount
of
txt
to
this
pool,
which
would
then
be
available
as
the
rewards
for
the
potential
white
hat
hackers
who
would
report
bugs,
and
so
each
severity
level
would
specify
a
certain
percentage
of
the
pool
that
would
be
eligible
as
rewards
yeah.
So
the
other
thing
yeah.
G
So
we
could
talk
about
who
should
be
on
the
committee,
what
the
amount
of
dxd
should
be,
which
contracts
to
cover
those
are
all
things
that
are
have
to
be
specified.
So.
B
B
G
And
the
other
piece
of
this
is
there's
what
they're
calling
security
mining.
B
D
Yeah,
it's
super
interesting
because
it
I
mean
it's.
It's
community-based,
like
as
a
as
a
community
member
like
dxdow,
can
can
fund
this
fault
with
some
initial
funds,
because
it's
important
as
a
dao,
but
then
users
or
community
members
can
who
are
invested
themselves
in
dx
down,
want
it
to
be
safe
and
its
products
to
be
safe,
put
additional
funds
in
partly
to
incentivize
protection
of
their
of
their
investment
or
their
or
their
products.
But
then
also
you
get
this
hats
reward.
D
On
top
of
that,
john
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
but
mainly
the
contracts
you
had
listed,
were
like
a
bunch
of
the
different
product
contracts,
I
think
like
we
want
swapper
contracts
and
and
things
included.
Yeah
was
like
dx
now
itself,
like
the
contracts
of
the
dow
and
dick's
vote
and
stuff.
Was
that
also
to
be
included.
G
G
Yeah
so
actually
yeah,
I
mean
not
that
we
wouldn't
want
people
to
report
any
issues
with
the
governance
contracts,
but
for
one
thing
it's
been
around
a
bit
longer,
but
there's,
like
you,
know
a
couple
audits
and
stuff.
G
So,
like
smart
contract
wise,
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
less
of
a
risk
on
the
governance
thing,
but
the
other
dimension
of
this
is
that
I
actually
think
like
a
bigger
risk
on
smart
on
governance
is,
is
sort
of
the
monitoring,
and
so
I
actually
think
it
could
be
counterproductive
to
attract
people
with
bug
bounties
on
the
on
the
governance
stuff.
So
I
would
rather
focus
on
the
products
like
the
the
swapper
contracts
and
the
omen
contracts.
H
So
the
users,
you
know
the
hd
holders
that
are
not
a
part
of
the
dell,
but
just
stakeholders.
H
B
Yes,
so
if
I'm
a
user
like
you
know-
and
I
want
to
protect
the
you
know,
dicks
doubt-
and
I
deposit-
I
sorry
deposit,
dxd
tokens-
and
you
know
later
on
in
the
future-
we'll
be
farming
pad
tokens
as
well.
But
for
now
I
would
just
be
depositing
dxe
tokens
which
will
sort
of
protect
the
external
incentivized
responsible
disclosure,
rather
than
hacking
like
any
of
the
deep
style
protocols.
B
If
someone
does
responsibly
disclose
nothing,
then
a
portion
of
what
everyone
staked
will
go
to
the
hacker
that
makes
sense
so
yeah,
like
you,
are
putting
your
funds
at
risk
right.
H
B
G
Technically,
being
ready,
yeah,
definitely
sky
and
timmy,
but
just
in
terms
of
technically
being
ready,
I'm
working
on
the
telegram
chat
right
now
and
I
think
if
I
get
once
I
get
the
key
set
up,
I
should
be
hopefully
ready
to
be
testing
that
today,
just
on
the
in
terms
of
the
telegram
chat,
but
we
would
also
have
to
set
up
a
multisig
if
we
need
a
new
one.
A
Yeah,
I
think
the
collaboration
for
us
participating
with
the
vaults
is
like
a
just
a
technical
discussion.
I
think
we
need
to
do
a
separate
proposal,
anyways
to
transfer
the
dxd
or
whatever
funds
we
put
in
for
claim
for
rewards.
So
that's
like
going
to
be
a
whole
separate
process.
Once
we
have
the
technical
stuff
set
up
and
then
the
venture,
the
grant
investment
is
completely
different.
I
think
I
need
to
check
back
with
ophir
to
see
if
they're
doing
the
announcement
today
regarding
who's
investing.
A
Obviously
we
still
need
to
get
the
on-chain
proposal
up
and
I'd
like
send
all
the
documentation
over
to
their
attorney
to
review.
So
hopefully
any
day
now,
once
that's
all
confirmed,
they'll
get
the
on-chain
proposal
up.
If
you
know,
unless
there's
some
sort
of
pushback
in
the
community
about
it
and
then
it's
kind
of
just
moving
along
as
it
should.
H
You
mentioned
that
the
security
covers
maintenance
short
term,
like
what
is
the
plan
on
moving
to
other
chains.
B
Oh
wow,
I
don't
know
I
don't.
I
don't
think
this
is
like
in
the
horizon
like
right
now,
because
I
think
still.
E
G
H
Yeah
dave
is
asking
a
question
that
maybe
federico
could
answer,
because
I
read
somewhere
in
this
court
that,
in
order
to
deploy
on
optimism,
you
have
to
change
your
smart
contracts,
but
that's
not
the
case
for
arbitrary
and
they're
kind
of
like
the
same.
Is
that
true?
And
so,
if
someone
finds
a
vulnerability
in
in
our
contracts
on
mainnet,
would
it
be
the
same
on
arbitrary?
So,
like
you
kill
two
birds
with
one
stone
or.
K
Yeah,
I
think
yeah
most
likely
yeah,
but
I'm
not
sure
about
the
optimism
thing
about
changing
contracts.
To
be
honest,
I
haven't
looked
into
that
too
much
but
yeah.
If
a
vulnerability
is
found
and
an
evm
chain
should
be
the
same
on
another
evm
chain,
pretty
sure
about
that.
D
Yeah
yeah,
so
just
to
be
clear
and
tammy
had
a
good
post
about
this,
but
there's
like
consensus
here
and
then
we
can
figure
out
consensus
from
the
wider
community
and
this
could
be
rep
holders,
and
maybe
we
want
dxd
snapshot
interest
as
well.
But
there's
like
us
being
a
user
initial
early
user
of
hats
program
and
then
separately.
D
There's
there
has
been
an
ongoing,
it's
been
drawn
out,
but
it
was
an
early
offer,
but
it
was
an
ongoing
opportunity
to
invest
as
as
dx
down
the
adventures
into
like
this
platform,
and
you
know
and
system
that
that
hats
is
building.
And
so
it
seems
that,
like
everyone
here
likes
the
idea
of
definitely
participating
in
hats
and
you
don't
have
to
invest
to
actually
participate
right.
So
we
can
just
participate
and
we
will
you
know
we
will
also
earn
hats
tokens
over
time
as
a
participant
or
early
participant
of
the
system
and
then
separately.
D
There
is
a
dx
ventures
opportunity
to
actually
you
know,
give
them
capital
as
part
of
an
initial
raise
they're
doing
as
a
as
a
grant
or
something
and
get
actual
additional
hats
tokens
in
return,
which
then
gives
dx
dao
a
bigger
voice
in
the
governance
ecosystem
and
so
not
sure
if
yeah.
So,
the
question
is:
are
people
on
board
with
both
of
those
and
then
what
other
signal
should
we
try
to
receive
from
dxtau
community,
for
I
guess
both
of
those
initiatives.
J
Fits
a
lot
of
the
conditions
that
we're
looking
for
for
both
investors
and
users.
As
you
said,
scott
we
can
kind
of
like
both
invest
in
and
be
an
early
user
of
this.
This
is
something
we
need
and
it's
a
team
we're
familiar
with
so
yeah.
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
ones
that
kind
of
checks
all
the
boxes
for
the
types
of
investment
that
deke
style
should
be
making.
G
D
Since
this
is
putting
dxd
into
like
it's
a
big
use
of
dxd
token
to
go
into
like
a
vault
and
then
also
obviously
like
dx
ventures,
side
of
things
until
we've
talked
about
asking
dxd
holders,
should
we
have
two
snapshot
signal
proposals
from
dxd
holders
around
these
two
initiatives
as
well?
Is
that
worth
doing
or
or
not,.
D
D
And
the
in
the
dxd
sitting
in
the
vault
is
not
like:
it's
not
a
cost
right,
it's
an
asset
sitting,
another
place
which
is
protecting
dicks
down
and
I
guess
could
always
be
taken
out
of
the
vault
too.
So
it's
not.
This
is
not
an
actual
cost.
G
D
G
G
B
B
This
is
like
this
is
a
no-brainer,
because
you
know,
if
you
put
money
like,
I
think,
like
john
said,
if,
if
a
hack
would
have
happened
to
dxdow
or
to
one
of
the
dickstar
products,
the
price
of
the
token
will
probably
drop
significantly
and
so
like
you're
staking
tokens,
that's
sort
of
incentivized
to
disclose
rather
than
hack,
and
you
know
if
a
hack
happens.
B
Yes,
you
lose
those
tokens,
but
you
know
the
alternative
would
have
been
much
worse
and
then
that's
one
and
then
on
the
other
side,
like
you
basically
allow
your
token
holders,
you
give
them
a
utility
and
something
to
do
with
their
token
and
lock
it
out
of
circulation.
B
G
G
G
B
B
And
then
yeah,
maybe
on
the
topic
of
the
multisig.
Maybe
sorry
I
think
it's
important
to
you
have
to
have
people
from
the
dev
team
people
who
can
try
out
these
sort
of
like
incoming
disclosures.
B
So,
like
I
don't
know,
the
technical
team
of
you
know
dick
style,
maybe
phil.
The
auditor
yeah.
G
Right
I
had
initially
been
thinking.
We
could
use
the
established
dev
multisync
because
it's
established-
and
it's
already
there
and
has
some
track
record,
but
yeah
sky
was
making
the
point
that
it's
actually
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
devs
on
the,
even
though
we
call
it
the
death
multisig,
it's
really
just
a
couple
of
devs
and
other
folks
from
other
contributors,
but
yeah.
Maybe
it
makes
sense
to
set
up
a
new
one
that
is
really
mostly
devs.
G
So
I
guess
we'll
probably
you
know
unless
people
feel
differently
here,
I
would
probably
move
ahead
with
that
approach
of
creating
a
new
multi
stick
and
starting
to
add
folks
that
are
doing
smart
contract
div
and
maybe
other
dev
work
for
dxdow
and
then
maybe
also
the
product
managers.
B
Yeah
anything
else
on
this
topic,
any
other
questions,
maybe.
G
B
Happening
today,
so
that's
like
already
passed,
so
I
I
don't
know
I
mean
you
know
as
early
as
possible
would
be
great
because
I
don't
know
to
get
into,
I
don't
know,
maybe
the
action
but
yeah,
I
don't
think
the
the
liquidity,
mining
or
liquidity
farming
of
security
mining.
I'm
not
sure
I
don't
think
that's
happening
for
like
another
couple
of
weeks,
so
yeah.
A
Yeah
from
a
pr
perspective
from
the
based
off
of
their
posts
that
they're
planning
on
putting
up
we're
in
the
video
as
like,
a
user
which
I
think
looks
really
good,
but
there
was
no
specific
announcement
about
who
their
investors
or
granters
are,
or
anything
like
that.
So
I
think
we're
covered
for
now.
B
Yeah
any
other
questions
on
this
topic,
or
I
don't
know
if
we
have
anything
else.
Oh
maybe
an
oculus
update
this
guy.
D
Oh
yeah,
so
opolis
was
the
first
investment
grant
that
dx
ventures
and
dxdow
has
has
done
opelus
as
a
system
is,
I
think,
the
communities
realizing
it's
a
useful
tool
in
the
community,
it's
still
mainly
or
largely
based
in
the
us
to
be
like
an
actual
user,
but
there
are
so
dx
dao
and
other
entities
can
be
like
members
of
the
of
the
apollos
like
cooperative
dx.
Dow
is
the
the
main
platform
of
opolis
happens
on
polygon.
D
At
this
point,
the
it
is
a
native
mainnet
token,
but
the
token
the
work
token
had
been
has
been
bridged
over
and
that's
where
it
was
distributed
to
most
of
the
users
and
and
grant
providers
and
things
on
on
polygon.
That
is
actually
the
place.
You
take
your
work
token
and
stake
it
into
the
opera
system
and
can
earn
rewards
each
epic,
depending
on
the
amount
of
money
that's
flowing
through
the
opolis
system.
D
D
For
the
initial
amount
that
dx
dao
received
was
actually
sent
via
mainnet
directly
into
dx,
dao's
treasury,
and
so
the
work
token.
So
far
that
has
you
know
vested,
I
think,
which
is
twenty
percent
of
the
total
is
now
sitting
in
dx,
dow
and
we'll
continue
to
get
more
work
tokens
each
quarter
for
a
number
of
years.
D
I
think,
but
now
with
that
war,
token
dx
doubt
has
a
decision
to
make
on
like
participating
in
the
opera
system
like
staking
using
as
governance
for
voting
staking
it
into
the
opera
system
in
order
to
earn
additional
work,
rewards
and
participate
in,
like
the
benefits
of
the
economic
benefits
of
the
system
or
potentially
using
work
token.
D
If
we
wanted
to
for,
like
a
swapper
pool
on
mainnet,
potentially
or
arbitrarium
more
likely
if
there
was
a
reason
to
have
a
community
around
that
token,
on
arbitrage
separately,
there
is
there's
actually
an
initiative
from
like
the
work
community
to
create
a
liquidity
pool
which
is
happening
very
soon,
but
because
the
work
token
sits
mainly
on
polygon.
D
The
initial
pool
for
work
tokens,
which
I
think
is
work
usdc,
probably
is
likely
going
to
be
on
polygon
on
a
dexon
polygon
potentially
sushi,
swap,
I
think,
and
so
that
would
be
like
there
is
no
like
active
trading
of
work
token
anywhere
in
the
ecosystem,
and
so
there's
not
really
like
a
value
to
work
token
at
that
up
to
this
point,
but
as
that
dex
as
that
pool
gets
established,
and
if
there
is
like
interest
like
around
that
token,
dx
dow
has
now
the
ability
to
use
work
tokens
that
it
has
or
or
potentially
incentivize
a
work,
token
pool
on
one
of
swapper's
chains,
and
so
we
have
a
few
different
options.
D
I
was
going
to
summarize
like
what
I've
just
described
here
in
a
post
for
on
in
the
forum,
and
then
we
can
discuss
kind
of
what
people
think
would
be
good
to
do
with
work
token,
I
mean
it's,
it's
basically
a
no-brainer
that,
if
you're
just
going
to
like
sit
on
your
work
token,
you
should
really
stake
it
into
the
opulent
system,
because
you
earn
a
reward.
You
earn
like
a
reward
right
and
so
dx
dow
itself
cannot
actually
do
that.
D
So
we'd
have
to
use
probably
a
multi-sig
polygon
if
we
wanted
to
do
that,
but
we
could
outline
that
in
a
proposal
and
so
like,
like
different
token
economies,
you
know
if
you,
if
there
is
a
yield
opportunity
and
you
don't
take
advantage
of
the
yield
opportunity-
you
are
basically
losing
right
and
so
currently
the
the
work
tokens
are
just
sitting
in
dx
dallas
treasury,
which
is
which
is
nice
to
have,
but
they're
not
being
utilized
in
any
way.
So
that's
the
overall
summary.
D
Once
I
get
the
forum
post
up
this
early
this
week,
we
can
discuss
the
different
options
of
what
to
do,
but
it's
cool
to
see
the
first,
the
first
dx
ventures,
investment
like
actually
come
to
completion
and
actual,
like
you
know,
receive
tokens
as
part
of
the
of
the
participation
in
the
in
the
system.
D
Oh
and
I
guess
in
general
yeah
so
any
any
contributors.
Obviously
it's
still
mainly
us
focused
but
like
referring
contributors
potentially
when
we
have
new
people
that
come
to
dx,
dao
and
they're
kind
of
like
well
does
dx
style
have
benefits,
and
the
answer
has
always
been
like.
No
dxdot
doesn't
have
anything
to
help
you
with
that.
Dxdow
has
done
this
alignment
for
like
this
specific
reason.
D
So
if
this
person
is
in
the
u.s-
and
they
say,
does
the
style
have
benefits,
it's
like
the
style
itself
does
not
have
benefits,
but
we
have
a
system
in
place.
That's
quite
easy
that
we
can
steer
you
in
the
direction
to
basically
easily
get
things
set
up
and
you
can
effectively
work
for
dx.
Dow
in
you
know,
be
a
contractor
for
dx
dow
in
the
us
and
and
have
a
like
a
normal
benefits
ecosystem
through
opolis
like
around
your
contributions
to
the
dow.
B
B
E
C
Yeah,
so
I
just
got
a
reply
from
the
liz
con
guys
response
to
the
wi-fi,
so
they
suggested
we
prioritize
wi-fi
for
actually
streaming
the
live,
streams,
etc.
Rather
than
for
people
attending
the
conferences.
C
Given
the
well
limitations
of
wireless
internet
right,
I
don't
know
what
people's
thoughts
are
about
that
and
then
we
could
be
listed
as
like
a
community
sponsor
special
mention
in
the
youtube
description,
of
course,
that
would,
on
the
one
hand,
be
safer,
as
we
likely
wouldn't
run
into
any
networking
issues.
On
the
other
hand,
it's
also
probably
less
exposure.
C
I
guess
I
don't
know,
because
not
everyone
will
be
connecting
to
it
right
so,
and
the
costs
are
estimated
to
be
around
four
to
five
thousand
euro,
which
is,
I
believe,
the
cheapest
sponsorship
is
like
the
community
sponsorship,
which
starts
at
10k,
and
then
they
have
three
like
regular
tiers
for,
like
20k
is
the
lowest
one
of
the
regular
tiers.
So
we'd
still
be
quite
below
the
entry-level
sponsorship
going
for
this
option.
But
of
course,
this
would
kind
of,
I
guess,
give
less
exposure
right.
C
C
So
one
of
the
concerns
was,
if
all
the
attendees
tried
to
connect
with
their
phone
and
laptop
and
the
internet
would
be
quite
shitty,
it
would
be.
It
would
kind
of
backfire
on
us
if,
like
we're
branding
the
wi-fi
sponsorship
or
something
right,
so
the
suggestion
from
them
was
to
focus
on
the
internet
that
will
be
provided
to
live
stream,
all
the
talks,
etc
and
yeah.
Just
if
what
people
yeah.
I
I
mean
if
we
can't
guarantee
that
the
experience
is
great,
then
the
marketing
strategy
is
also
not
great
right,
like
we
could
should
shoot
ourselves
in
our
foot
if,
like
people
have
issues
like
even
in
japan,
I
remember
it
was
like
such
a
horrible
connection
like
basically
no
one
was
able
to
connect
and
people
got
pissed.
G
B
J
Guys,
remember
the
sponsors,
you
remember,
the
conferences
didn't
have
bad
wi-fi,
but
you
don't
remember
the
sponsors
themselves.
So
I
I
think
it's
like
a
risk,
but
I
mean
I
don't
think
that
people
would
like
hold.
People
would
think
negatively
at
dx
doubt
because
the
wi-fi
sucks
at
a
conference
they
would
think,
like
the
wi-fi
sucks
at
this
conference
and
I'm
like
trying
to
connect
to
it
and
it
says
dxdow
each
time
so.
But
I.
E
B
J
G
C
C
C
C
Okay,
but
I'll
have
a
chat
with
them
and
then
I'll
update.
If
I
have
any
news,
I
also
asked
about
going
to
test
the
infrastructure.
Although
I
don't
know
I
mean
I
can
do
a
speed
test,
but
I
can't
simulate
5000
devices
connecting
at
the
same
time.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
much
that's
going
to
help
but
I'll
see
how
that
goes,
and
then
I'll
update
everyone.